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Speaker 3: As the work continues on the field in front of us,
Speaker 3: the sun continues to shine. We continue to uh be
Speaker 3: a little disappointed by this painting robot.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, round two of it. Yeah right,
Speaker 4: batch number two again. The forty looks like nobody touched it.
Speaker 3: This this, this painting robot came out of the blocks.
Speaker 3: Matt like Usain Bolt.
Speaker 4: First innings are great, unbelievable, and.
Speaker 3: Then it's looked like me out there ever since not, so.
Speaker 4: We stopped painting the numbers too.
Speaker 3: And you know, right, this is why we rely on man, right.
Speaker 4: And it's almost like they put off white in instead
Speaker 4: of white.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still Payton straight and everything. It's just it's
Speaker 3: not nearly as bright as it used out taking a
Speaker 3: break now, they've kind of pulled it off to the side.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's just too hot out there, you know,
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a little too hot out there.
Speaker 3: They're testing the microphones. Yep, down on the field once
Speaker 3: again for of course a big day tomorrow, Steelers Hall
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Speaker 3: the NFL. As now all thirty two NFL teams officially
Speaker 3: into training camp.
Speaker 4: I think area in Pats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because because some there's certain there's certain Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame game and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 3: even if you have a new head coach, you're allowed
Speaker 3: some parameters. But I think it was I think it
Speaker 3: was yesterday the Broncos were the last remaining team. I
Speaker 3: want to say, don't quote me on that, but I
Speaker 3: feel like yesterday the Broncos had their first day of
Speaker 3: practice and I think they were the last remaining team,
Speaker 3: But obviously a big weekend as football is is football is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's headlines every couple hours.
Speaker 3: And we love it. And hopefully we'll have some big
Speaker 3: headlines tomorrow, certainly when we learn the Steelers new Hall
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Speaker 3: Nation Radio, Matt, you had a fun idea for a segment,
Speaker 3: and I figured.
Speaker 4: This could be several segments. Oh, I think two, maybe
Speaker 4: three segments, maybe a week long segment.
Speaker 3: Right where Matt said.
Speaker 4: Most every position might take up a segment.
Speaker 3: Matt said, let's and this could be something we could
Speaker 3: kind of bob and weave, you know, throughout training camp
Speaker 3: and doing too here depending on how how deep we
Speaker 3: get into these weeds. But Matt had a good idea
Speaker 3: for a segment, basically saying let's let's.
Speaker 4: Actually Dale had a good idea for a segment.
Speaker 3: That's true actually right used to this was something that
Speaker 3: something that Dale came up with a few years ago
Speaker 3: that basically just go through the Steelers roster today verse
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was their training camp roster then and compared to.
Speaker 3: Now, compared to now? And what do you where do
Speaker 3: you think they improved. Where do you think maybe they
Speaker 3: took a little bit of step back, And you said
Speaker 3: you preface this by saying, like, hey, you gotta be
Speaker 3: honest with how you felt last year.
Speaker 4: You can't cheat you.
Speaker 3: You can't in hindsight, go oh, I knew John hu
Speaker 3: Smith was gonna stink when everyone thought that. You know,
Speaker 3: he was going to be a welcome member of that
Speaker 3: offense with Arthur Smith, with that tight end group.
Speaker 4: So this time of year, everybody's optimistic. You go, oh,
Speaker 4: this is so much better. No one's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 4: This rookie's going to hit blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: But if you're honest with yourself and you remember, to
Speaker 4: the best of your abilities, when you were sitting here
Speaker 4: one year ago, what you thought of each position group,
Speaker 4: and be like, boy, I had a lot of questions
Speaker 4: about this guy, but boy, he's a lot better now.
Speaker 4: Or I was worried he was really old about hit
Speaker 4: the wall. They looked better, or I didn't think he
Speaker 4: was ready hit the wall, but he hit the wall,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So of course we're not
Speaker 4: going to be right for cacheries and right right right,
Speaker 4: and there's new bodies. But I do think it's interesting
Speaker 4: and I'll be honest, every year that we've done it
Speaker 4: really over able to say the Omar Kahn era because
Speaker 4: of a different style team building, and Rob King talks
Speaker 4: about this a lot each year. I do think the
Speaker 4: roster across the board has improved. I mean as a whole.
Speaker 4: As a whole, I mean more often than not I
Speaker 4: say I like this position group. Maybe it's only three
Speaker 4: percent more, but more than I like this position group
Speaker 4: last year. And you have to be honest with yourself
Speaker 4: now again, I heard Rob talking on the show before
Speaker 4: us saying, you know, in the locker room and the
Speaker 4: driver Cohorton out there before we came on, and one
Speaker 4: thing he brings up, and I need to bring it
Speaker 4: up more on the air because I do like the
Speaker 4: Steelers roster. But what worries me is the most about
Speaker 4: maybe the Steelers roster is who are the superstars? You know,
Speaker 4: who are the guys.
Speaker 3: That can drag you over the line and get you
Speaker 3: a victory?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like man if Burrow's hot today, we're
Speaker 4: in trouble. If Lamar's hot today, or boy, I hope
Speaker 4: we can contain Chase or yeah, I'm just going around
Speaker 4: to the division. You know at Miles Garrett guy, how
Speaker 4: we're getting him blocked? I can't sleep tonight? Or what
Speaker 4: are they gonna do with Kyle Hamilton?
Speaker 3: You know, like that time when Ben Roethlisberger had back
Speaker 3: to back five hundred yard passing games, Like, what are
Speaker 3: you gonna do?
Speaker 4: The students A had a million of them? I mean, TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt was that guy two years ago? And you know,
Speaker 4: is he still? I don't know. And that's not to
Speaker 4: say like Cam Hayward Zack Frazier aren't great players, but
Speaker 4: are they guys that just like I can't sleep it
Speaker 4: all week dealing with these dudes Tyreek in his prime,
Speaker 4: you know, just terrifying players.
Speaker 3: Where you want to start, Matt, you want to start
Speaker 3: with the quarterback? Yeah? Yeah, sure, let's start. We'll start
Speaker 3: with the prom kid.
Speaker 4: It's a tough one just because it's.
Speaker 3: Only one difference. It's Skyler Thompson and Drew Aller.
Speaker 4: But but you're definitely like Aler more than tom I
Speaker 4: mean you got to also have to say, since we
Speaker 4: haven't done this before, I'll kind of coach you up,
Speaker 4: like Rudolph better now than you did then, I'd say
Speaker 4: he's the same. To me, I think I like Howard
Speaker 4: better now than I did then. I mean, we just
Speaker 4: met him. I was gonna a six round pick. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: I think he has to be the same because.
Speaker 4: He's closed because he didn't get to see anything.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him between the white lines, even in
Speaker 3: a preseason game yet.
Speaker 4: But we've at least heard people in the organization. He's
Speaker 4: super impressive. He's been around an extra year. But I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna like if they're madd in grades, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna move him from a fifty to a seventy.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right.
Speaker 4: But if you think about what you thought of him
Speaker 4: one year ago, it's like, oh, this six round pick
Speaker 4: just won the national title. He's kind of interesting, you know,
Speaker 4: but you weren't. You weren't jumping out of your skin
Speaker 4: yet for him.
Speaker 3: I'm not jumping out of my skin for him right now.
Speaker 4: Me neither.
Speaker 3: I'm not jumping out of my skin for Will or
Speaker 3: for Drew until again I see them do something real,
Speaker 3: at least against another team that's trying. Maybe even if
Speaker 3: it is only preseason. That's an interesting one because I
Speaker 3: you definitely feel better about aler than Skylar Thompson. There's
Speaker 3: no doubt there. Yeah, I would say Will Howard and
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph are about the same. To use your Madden
Speaker 3: Great analogy. Yeah, if I would have had Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: as an eighty four overall out of one hundred last year,
Speaker 3: I'd probably have him as an eighty three overall out
Speaker 3: of one hundred right now. See, Okay, although you got
Speaker 3: to put in the Mike McCarthy factor and the Michael
Speaker 3: Pittman junior factor.
Speaker 4: See you're new to this exercise.
Speaker 3: Those things don't matter.
Speaker 4: We No, it definitely matters. But what is hard. The
Speaker 4: hardest thing about this exercise is trying to rewind one
Speaker 4: year because one year ago, boy he had just all
Speaker 4: he saw was OTAs. You know, you didn't know what
Speaker 4: kind of player was. He was just a jet You know,
Speaker 4: that seems like a million years ago. So you're basing
Speaker 4: things off jet tape when you're sitting here, like, sure
Speaker 4: he might be shot. Boy, he threw the ball well
Speaker 4: on OTA's or Mini camp, but they he signed late.
Speaker 4: I've only seen three mini camp practices at this point
Speaker 4: of Aaron Rodgers. He's impressive of walking around the trobe
Speaker 4: and I can't keep my eyes off the dude. But
Speaker 4: his jet stint wasn't great, you know, Like, I definitely
Speaker 4: think last year with the Steelers was better than his
Speaker 4: jet time. Yes, so I think his stock went up
Speaker 4: just because I got to see more than what I
Speaker 4: was basing his playoff of. But at his age, like
Speaker 4: this is probably true for like Cam Hayward too, like you,
Speaker 4: probably logic tells you the quote old dudes you should
Speaker 4: feel worse about of course, I mean just of course
Speaker 4: father time it's undefeated, right all right, right, so he's
Speaker 4: kind of a tough one. Do you feel better about
Speaker 4: Rogers sitting in the booth today or do you feel
Speaker 4: better about Rogers one year ago before you ever really
Speaker 4: saw him in Steeler pads. That's a great call because
Speaker 4: it's really easy to cheat and remember what happened as
Speaker 4: a Steeler. You're like, maybe he should be an MVP
Speaker 4: this year. Yeah, like you know, interesting, Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's some of the players are easy. When we get
Speaker 4: to Jaylen Warren, my my thoughts haven't changed much. I
Speaker 4: like him, like him now you're that expection blah bla
Speaker 4: blah blahah But to put yourself in the shoes of
Speaker 4: what did I truly think of Aaron Rodgers. Part of
Speaker 4: me was terrified, like this guy might be shot, he
Speaker 4: might be horrible. Part of me was like, right, right, right.
Speaker 3: I think I would go slightly better with the quarterback,
Speaker 3: with the room.
Speaker 4: I would I prefer it now. Yes, I also think
Speaker 4: there's four options as opposed to three or maybe even
Speaker 4: thought of two. At that point. You didn't look at
Speaker 4: the six round pick and be like, that's an option.
Speaker 3: Sure ago, sure, sure, that's a that's a That's a
Speaker 3: very tough one to break down. The quarterback room there
Speaker 3: because there hasn't been a ton of change.
Speaker 4: But there'll be some positions that are easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like offensive line feels like it'll be
Speaker 3: pretty easy. Why receiver feels.
Speaker 4: Like why receiver is probably the obvious one.
Speaker 3: Pretty a pretty obvious one.
Speaker 4: Although I know this sounds are mean, but I had
Speaker 4: higher expectations for Metcalf a year ago than I do now.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this year was disappointing, but he's one
Speaker 4: year older. Yeah, you're just giving up a second round pick.
Speaker 4: You look at this crazy looking wide receiver on the
Speaker 4: hoof running around out here for the first time going whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He looked like something they hadn't had in that position
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 4: But definitely receiver stronger, yes than it.
Speaker 3: Was that because and that's that's that's probably another one
Speaker 3: that's fairly easy because you add you add Michael Pittman
Speaker 3: Junior to the fold a legit number two, you have
Speaker 3: a what a second round pick in Jeremy Bernard, whereas
Speaker 3: last year it was like DK and a whole lot
Speaker 3: of you waiting for somebody to step up, a whole
Speaker 3: mvs and Roman Wilson and Calvin Austin.
Speaker 4: And like collectively, though we had more hope at that
Speaker 4: point for Roman, Yes, I mean he.
Speaker 3: Is still Calvin a little bit as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again these are not saying these guys are
Speaker 4: terrible or their story.
Speaker 3: Ravin Austin and belongs on an NFL roster.
Speaker 4: I mean there's a reason, like when I was at
Speaker 4: the Browns, you would write a report every year for
Speaker 4: these players because they're constantly changing. But my report on
Speaker 4: and Wilson now would be lower or less enthusiastic than
Speaker 4: it was after his rookie year, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because it's one more year of proof that maybe he
Speaker 4: isn't going to hit. Yeah, and I'm not saying we
Speaker 4: know the answer that no doubt.
Speaker 3: And I think you're fair and what you're saying with
Speaker 3: DK that there's still expectations there, just maybe not quite
Speaker 3: as lofty as they were then. They were very high,
Speaker 3: they're really high. But I think I think you add
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Junior the fold juice, that's enough. That's enough.
Speaker 3: I mean, how long has it been we're talking about
Speaker 3: this yesterday. How long has it been since the Steelers
Speaker 3: have had a second wide receiver that you felt very
Speaker 3: confident in. It's it's been a long time. It's it's
Speaker 3: been a real long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I have no qualms that that room
Speaker 4: is better now than it was one.
Speaker 3: Year ago, without a doubt, without a doubt.
Speaker 4: And it's also better able knock on wood to withstand
Speaker 4: the riggers and injuries that you're gonna deal deal with inevitably.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you're if one of your top two misses
Speaker 3: a game or two, yeah you'll still be in a
Speaker 3: rough spot, but it won't be nearly as bad as
Speaker 3: it was last year without DK. The year before that,
Speaker 3: without pickings. You've you've certainly got some more cavalry in
Speaker 3: that room right now, without a doubt. Matt, let's let's
Speaker 3: table this exercise for just a few minutes. So we
Speaker 3: did quarterback and wide receiver. Maybe when we return, we'll
Speaker 3: take a look at the defense, do a position group
Speaker 3: or two there, and we can we can, you know,
Speaker 3: keep this exercise going throughout the next couple of practices,
Speaker 3: just kind of compared and where the roster was a
Speaker 3: year ago to where it is now, and sometimes.
Speaker 4: The camp too, Like man, I was really high on
Speaker 4: him a year ago and he didn't do enough to
Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson's one of those he's going to be the obvious, yeah,
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 3: But then I think there's gonna be some others where
Speaker 3: it was like, hey, I thought Mason McCormick was going
Speaker 3: to be a good football player. Now I think he
Speaker 3: could be a great football.
Speaker 4: Especially if when we did this going into you know,
Speaker 4: his rookie season, it's like, oh, I liked him a
Speaker 4: lot as a fourth round pick. I thought he'd go
Speaker 4: into third round. That's exactly what I thought of him.
Speaker 4: And then next year you're like, oh, he should be
Speaker 4: a long time starting.
Speaker 3: Guard now like, Hey, now you're like maybe he could
Speaker 3: be a pro bowler.
Speaker 4: It's all right right, you know, like now he's worth
Speaker 4: a second round pick.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, we'll continue this exercise when we return here
Speaker 3: in the second hour. Oh, the line painting robot is
Speaker 3: back out.
Speaker 4: I know where's he going?
Speaker 3: Can we put in a stronger second half performance here
Speaker 3: than we did in the first half? And ain't about
Speaker 3: how you start, mister robot, It's about how you finish.
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Speaker 3: Back on campus. Here, we're about halfway home. On today's
Speaker 3: edition of The Drive was Shooler Matt Williamson, Chuck Nolefield. Here.
Speaker 3: They're still having some issues with the painting robot. It's
Speaker 3: just not.
Speaker 4: Getting not getting the umote.
Speaker 3: That at once behind the paint. It's it's painting the
Speaker 3: line straight and everything. It's just they're a little confused
Speaker 3: as to why it's. It needs a little more potency,
Speaker 3: it needs a little more oomph, needs a little bit
Speaker 3: more whiteness there, Matt, it's like a light white, like
Speaker 3: an off white, and so they're trying to figure it
Speaker 3: out out here in the sunshine. They got most of
Speaker 3: the numbers painted and all that good stuff. As Matt
Speaker 3: and I will continue to keep you, keep you posting
Speaker 3: the review forty Yeah, sure did having this thing. Listen,
Speaker 3: it's training camp for everybody.
Speaker 4: Every still learn them.
Speaker 3: Including me, including the lawn painting robe. On Matt, let's
Speaker 3: continue this exercise of comparing the roster at this point
Speaker 3: to last year, and I think, if we're gonna be
Speaker 3: honest with ourselves, defensive back is a really intriguing one.
Speaker 4: Okay, gonna start, let's break it into the corners in
Speaker 4: safety exactly right.
Speaker 3: That's I I I sometimes who is here too? Okay?
Speaker 3: So remember last year, of course Joey Porter Junior was
Speaker 3: still here, but he was heading into year two. Uh.
Speaker 3: And you had brought in Darius Slay from Philadelphia. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you still had Uh. Well, I guess one Thornhill part
Speaker 3: of me will count. We'll count as a safe. As
Speaker 3: a safety, you had Jalen Ramsey who was brought in
Speaker 3: at the time. So Darius Slay, Joey Porter Junior and
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey your starters. Behind them. You had Brandon Ecles,
Speaker 3: you had Corey Trice, you had James Pierre, you had
Speaker 3: Beanie Bishops still at this point this time last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing my best, think what I thought then.
Speaker 4: I'm higher on Porter now than then. Absolutely, And I
Speaker 4: was still very I've never really doubted him, but I
Speaker 4: mean after his rookie year, I was quite happy with him,
Speaker 4: you know, right, Yes.
Speaker 3: And I think at the time, I don't want to
Speaker 3: say we were crazy high on Darius Slam.
Speaker 4: But I didn't. I thought he'd be close to the answer,
Speaker 4: or you know.
Speaker 3: I think we thought he'd be better than Patrick Peterson, Yeah,
Speaker 3: or some of the other more veteran guys that they
Speaker 3: had tried to see.
Speaker 4: One of the fun things about this exercise, it teaches
Speaker 4: you how hard this league is. Because I remember many
Speaker 4: times last year saying, Okay, now they can finally play
Speaker 4: a lot of press man coverage with these big corners, Slay,
Speaker 4: Ramsey Porter. They have a gluttonous amount of these guys,
Speaker 4: And then you realized, Slay ain't it. And I still
Speaker 4: really like Ramsey, but he's not the outside corner anymore.
Speaker 4: You know, I thought he was then, Yes, you know,
Speaker 4: so in some ways, if we're just looking at outside corners,
Speaker 4: I was really high on that group. Then I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 4: who's going to go to the slot? Ramsey was, who
Speaker 4: leaves the field? They got too many good guys. Now,
Speaker 4: something that happened that I guess isn't relevant because he's
Speaker 4: not here. But Pierre really came on strong throughout the year.
Speaker 4: We thought him as just a special team team. But
Speaker 4: if he were to happen to come back, I'd be like, boy,
Speaker 4: Pierre's a good player, right, Eccles kind of was what
Speaker 4: I thought he was, and I think that's good, you know,
Speaker 4: but you don't want him out there every snap. I
Speaker 4: still had hoped for Trice at that point, you know, thinking, man,
Speaker 4: maybe he can get back on, you know, get his
Speaker 4: career together. So it's sort of similar because like, I
Speaker 4: think I like Dean now more than I liked Sleigh
Speaker 4: then slightly. But it's easy to say because you know
Speaker 4: you're saying.
Speaker 3: Now, right. But I think again, I think we were
Speaker 3: all confident that Slay was going to be a solid contributor.
Speaker 3: I think ye coming off a Super Bowl with the
Speaker 3: Eagles right, part of a great defense, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: thought you could get another year of him, not as
Speaker 3: a superstar, but certainly as a viable starter.
Speaker 4: I think I like Ramsey better then, yes.
Speaker 3: And like Port better now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So those kind of even each other out.
Speaker 4: I think having Everett in the mix is something that's
Speaker 4: been lacking for a while, that that early round. I
Speaker 4: don't need him now, but I'm glad he's here for
Speaker 4: the future type.
Speaker 3: And I think a Sante Samuel Junior too, Like I'd
Speaker 3: rather have a guy even though Corey Trice.
Speaker 4: He wasn't here last year.
Speaker 3: Well that's true.
Speaker 4: That's true, So he's kind of like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess I kind of meant it in the sense
Speaker 3: of like, if you're telling me, okay for a depth
Speaker 3: guy here, right, you can have a Corey Trice where
Speaker 3: you know there's a potential high ceiling there, but there's
Speaker 3: a lot of volatility and injury and never been able
Speaker 3: to put it together. Or you can have it a
Speaker 3: Sante Samuel Junior who doesn't have the size, has some limitations,
Speaker 3: but you know is he's been productive throughout his career
Speaker 3: and viable. Like, I think a Sante Samuel Junior is
Speaker 3: a better guy to have in a depth piece as
Speaker 3: opposed to someone with a ton of injury history.
Speaker 4: Because I mean, what I do know at this time
Speaker 4: last year was Trice may not even make the roster.
Speaker 4: You know, Samuel is definitely making the roster. And oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, he's also playing really well.
Speaker 3: He's made a couple previously biased there probably mentioned him
Speaker 3: as much as we should because it's only acclamation practices,
Speaker 3: but him and Dean both have looked sharp out.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I thought this last year though, too, like, hey,
Speaker 4: if your third corner is a sante. A third outside
Speaker 4: corner santy, Samuel, You're really sitting pretty because I said
Speaker 4: the same thing last year, like if your third corner
Speaker 4: is sleigh, you're really sitting pretty, and you weren't sitting pretty.
Speaker 4: I mean, if Pierre hadn't stepped up, corner would have
Speaker 4: been really bad for the team, especially on the outside.
Speaker 4: But I think I like this group better.
Speaker 3: I think slightly.
Speaker 4: I mean, Everett has some weight there.
Speaker 3: Eccles. You feel better about Eccles, You feel better?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Feel better about Joey Porter Junior.
Speaker 4: I would say there's less speculation about Eckles. That's probably
Speaker 4: one year of them in the Black and Gold. It's
Speaker 4: a pretty good group too, it is. I mean they
Speaker 4: may keep six and they're all pretty decent. I mean
Speaker 4: it's a minor thing. But like Kent, it was a rookie,
Speaker 4: you thought, well, you know he's somebody. Now it's like,
Speaker 4: well he didn't learn much about him. Andy's hurt. So
Speaker 4: but I'm not sucking change my grade of do. I
Speaker 4: like this corner room better than last year's corner room.
Speaker 3: I like this year is better safety. I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a huge gap, but I definitely
Speaker 3: like this year is better the safety.
Speaker 4: You had just lost Menca.
Speaker 3: Though safety, you had just lost Menca. You you had
Speaker 3: brought in one Thornhill.
Speaker 4: And we did not call Ramsey a safety last year
Speaker 4: in camp. I'm not considering he didn't play one rep
Speaker 4: of safety.
Speaker 3: You had brought you had lost Meca, you had brought
Speaker 3: in one thorn Hill, you had brought in Chuck Clark.
Speaker 3: It sounds bad now in hindsight, it ended up being
Speaker 3: I mean, you had Ramsey had to move to safe,
Speaker 3: Ramsey had to move to safety. You lost to Sean
Speaker 3: Elliott for a big stretch of the season. Whereas now, hey,
Speaker 3: I know there's still question about that safety group. But
Speaker 3: Brisker's approven safety savage, you know, I think.
Speaker 4: There's just I don't think Ramsey counts a little bit
Speaker 4: towards safety now too.
Speaker 3: I think last year, for the framing of this conversation,
Speaker 3: you have to count him as a corner. I think
Speaker 3: for this year you count him as a safety.
Speaker 4: As a slot slash safety, yeah, slot slash safety, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So he kind of influences both.
Speaker 3: One of those guys that we always talk about right
Speaker 3: in the Cooper de Jeans.
Speaker 4: And I mean even if you know Hamilton lines up
Speaker 4: in the slot every snap, he would still be in
Speaker 4: the safety conversation. Yes, yes, Elliott doesn't change.
Speaker 3: I think he's about the same. He's a solid player.
Speaker 3: You know what you're getting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like I'm more worried about his injuries
Speaker 4: now than then. Or he's a year older. Eh, that
Speaker 4: doesn't bother me. I thought Thornhill would be better. But
Speaker 4: I never loved them. I never loved the Clerks, and
Speaker 4: I know Dugger wasn't here, but like all those retread
Speaker 4: older dudes all performed kind of I expected. None of
Speaker 4: them can really run anymore. And you know, I hope
Speaker 4: we don't say the same about Brisker. You know, like
Speaker 4: he's had some injuries, and you might go into next
Speaker 4: season going Brisker on a one year deal. I don't
Speaker 4: care if you lose them. That's how league work. Sure,
Speaker 4: Or he might be like we got a lot out
Speaker 4: of him, Maybe you can extend him. Yeah, but I
Speaker 4: think you have to like this group better.
Speaker 3: I think so. I just think there's more options there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what to think of Savage. To me,
Speaker 4: he's a total wildgo total. He may not make team.
Speaker 4: He may be an influential player. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He'd like forgetting that he's out here or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: some of these times. Honestly, Yeah, that that one. I mean,
Speaker 3: and you know you added Robert Spears Jennings to the
Speaker 3: mix too. I think he probably deserves. I mean, he
Speaker 3: was a draft pick, so he probably deserves.
Speaker 4: Although it was once here a year ago.
Speaker 3: I thought that was two years ago.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, because I feel very similar about both those
Speaker 4: guys that they may have stole somebody in the late
Speaker 4: rounds that makes his bones on special teams, and the
Speaker 4: year two or three is in the dime, and then
Speaker 4: in year three or four he's a starter, you know,
Speaker 4: because I I thought I felt bad about the watch situation.
Speaker 4: I thought he could have been something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's just a bum.
Speaker 3: It's it's one thing, you know, Matt, when guys it's
Speaker 3: one thing when guys can't make it in the NFL
Speaker 3: because they don't have the skill set.
Speaker 4: But yeah, or if they don't work hard enough, or
Speaker 4: they're just not fast enough or whatever, you're.
Speaker 3: Not mentally sharp enough to put it all together with
Speaker 3: the playbook.
Speaker 4: That happens every day, That happens every year.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when it's when it's an injury and it's
Speaker 3: taken out of your hands and that's that's just that,
Speaker 3: that's a bummer. As much as these guys have devoted
Speaker 3: their lives to get to this point, to have an
Speaker 3: opportunity to play the kids game.
Speaker 4: The star glimpses of you know them being good.
Speaker 3: All right, before we go to break, we're getting some
Speaker 3: work on the iPad for the robot. Here. I love
Speaker 3: it when they like, go over, check it out, look
Speaker 3: back at the little little eye pall.
Speaker 4: They bring them over the sidelines, have a talk.
Speaker 3: They bring them over to the sidelines, like all right,
Speaker 3: we don't know you're sign all right, hold on, what
Speaker 3: did you see here at the forty five yard line
Speaker 3: talking me about this?
Speaker 4: You have been studying your playbook.
Speaker 3: Your playbook is one play you think you know it.
Speaker 3: Now it's put down white paint right that you're putting
Speaker 3: down like some translucent All right, here we go. We're
Speaker 3: on the forty five yard.
Speaker 4: Forty five looks all right? Tho, I don't know if
Speaker 4: that needs redone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's going now. It doesn't look like
Speaker 3: much as change.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anything's coming out.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is just at Maybe this will test run
Speaker 3: to see if to see what's happening here.
Speaker 4: Can you erase paint?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you can, but I don't think
Speaker 3: like you just can with like a pencil and an eraser.
Speaker 3: That's gone real quick. I think it would take some
Speaker 3: some uh some real high flute, like.
Speaker 4: If he would get outside the lines and make it
Speaker 4: wiggle life something.
Speaker 3: I think you're pretty much in trouble.
Speaker 4: I think you're in massive trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you have to go get some.
Speaker 4: Get some green and green paint. Go to Sherman Williams
Speaker 4: would be like, I need this color. It's kind of
Speaker 4: green with a little bit of brown mixed in and
Speaker 4: some cleat marks in it.
Speaker 3: Matt. You will see that sometimes at like high school stadiums,
Speaker 3: where they'll just paint the roughs. They'll just spray paint
Speaker 3: the rough spots green just to just to make it look.
Speaker 4: I saw it in the early days of Heinz Field.
Speaker 4: Let's just paint the sand green. No, you don't know
Speaker 4: the difference.
Speaker 3: They won't be able to tell on TV.
Speaker 4: You can't tell on TV HD cameras.
Speaker 3: Haven't come out. Yeah we're good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're walking around in my pitt uniform or you
Speaker 4: know my pit gear like, ooh, this field could use
Speaker 4: a little work.
Speaker 3: That's what you were there for. Why don't you get
Speaker 3: to work and get it done. Yeah, we'll keep you,
Speaker 3: We'll keep you posted with all of the paint Shenanigans
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Speaker 4: That there is quite the lineup.
Speaker 3: It sure is. No one covers training camp like we
Speaker 3: do here on your twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4: I think the robot's starting can get screwed back by
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 3: It's a second half player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good sixty minute.
Speaker 3: You know some of these some of these guys, you know,
Speaker 3: once the once the drama gets ratcheted up and the
Speaker 3: game gets tight and the pressure's on, that's when they're
Speaker 3: at their best. And I do think the robot is
Speaker 3: finally now. But man, these two of these guys out here,
Speaker 3: they've been spending enough time on this robot. It can
Speaker 3: have this whole field painted and rested.
Speaker 4: It could have been done by now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt, we have got We're gonna get to tweets
Speaker 3: in our next segment, So keep those rolling in. We're
Speaker 3: gonna catch up with our guy Michael McQuaid of Pro
Speaker 3: Football Ireland tomorrow. He's it's his first day here on campus.
Speaker 3: I think he was in New Orleans this morning, and
Speaker 3: the he's been all over the place, like I know,
Speaker 3: he was at Rams camp and Chargers camp and Seahawks
Speaker 3: and Saints obviously as he was in New Orleans. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he's been seeing it all. But he'll be I.
Speaker 4: Don't love traveling, and that would be a lot of
Speaker 4: travel and I'll never get that opportunity as long as
Speaker 4: I'm doing this for a living. But it would be
Speaker 4: pretty cool to go camp to camp.
Speaker 3: It would be pretty cool, just the like how it's
Speaker 3: all different, how.
Speaker 4: It's really different.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, Matt. To close down the hour here, It's
Speaker 3: been a little while since we've looked at one of
Speaker 3: Jeremy Fowler's top ten lists, but we still have a
Speaker 3: few of these to get to and we we probably
Speaker 3: did about half of them, probably, yeah, maybe close to half.
Speaker 3: We I wanted to take a look at his tight
Speaker 3: Ends top ten list and this is not Jeremy's list,
Speaker 3: specif his, it's you know, he he polls. I think
Speaker 3: it's over seventy Some league executive scouts coaches and has
Speaker 3: them rank every single position in the top ten or
Speaker 3: a top ten in every single position. Pardon me, and
Speaker 3: we spent some time talking about tight ends in our
Speaker 3: Fantasy Football UH segment earlier. I wanted to go through
Speaker 3: his his compiled list here of the top ten at
Speaker 3: that position, but starting with the honorable mentions, Matt pat
Speaker 3: Fryermouth checks in at what would be number twelve on
Speaker 3: this list. He is the second honorable mention, and.
Speaker 4: I still think he's very well respected around the league.
Speaker 4: He is, frankly, and I am going to throw the
Speaker 4: last coaching staff under the bus a little, just frankly
Speaker 4: underused by that group.
Speaker 3: And they're, you know, one of the AFC executives that
Speaker 3: gave Jeremy an anonymous quote basically says he doesn't seem
Speaker 3: to ever be a focal point for that offense. He
Speaker 3: doesn't belong in the top tier of tight ends, but
Speaker 3: he is a playmaker. When they target him, he usually produces.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I've mentioned a few times his numbers just
Speaker 4: aligned out of the slot are tremendous. And he's also
Speaker 4: one of the best run after catch guys last year
Speaker 4: amongst tight ends. I see more of that. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: quick bubble to him out of the slot, you know,
Speaker 4: get six yards.
Speaker 3: We better see more of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other honorable mentions Dalton Kincaid, Cole Comet, Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 3: and Harold Fannin junior. It's a pretty good group. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm glad Fannin' is there not in the top ten.
Speaker 4: I have a little problem putting the car before the
Speaker 4: horse a little bit, just because of a very productive
Speaker 4: rookie year. Yeah, they no one else will throw to.
Speaker 3: No, they did not, And hey, he did a good
Speaker 3: job when called upon. But he uh, he really gets
Speaker 3: schemed up in a Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's better than I thought he was. I'm being
Speaker 4: a little prejudice against my draft bias on him, but
Speaker 4: I don't know that he's gonna continue to be a
Speaker 4: top producer at that position.
Speaker 3: Number ten is Travis Kelcey. Matt checks in with that.
Speaker 3: It was five last year, falls down to ten this year.
Speaker 3: Far from a burner at age thirty six, but it's
Speaker 3: hard to argue with his production last season.
Speaker 4: So here's just a tight end. Note that I realized
Speaker 4: we haven't had a little small conversation about like we
Speaker 4: often bring up, it takes them a while to learn
Speaker 4: the nuances of the position, but once they do, they
Speaker 4: hang around longer than most positions. Too. Some of the
Speaker 4: great ones have lasted even though they run like me, yeah,
Speaker 4: you Witt and Gates and those guys with guys and
Speaker 4: Kelsey's doing that too. And a big reason why is
Speaker 4: zone coverage. Like okay, I read the zone. Not only
Speaker 4: like it's easy to say you learn where the soft
Speaker 4: spots are in zones, but there's more to it than that.
Speaker 4: It's knowing where the soft spots are going to be.
Speaker 4: It's almost like Gretzky going, I'm gonna go where the
Speaker 4: puck is, not where it is now because those soft spots.
Speaker 4: The defensive guys are smart too, the soft spot between
Speaker 4: the safety and linebacker. They know that's where you're going.
Speaker 4: But Kelsey goes there and then drifts to where they were,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Or and then Mahomes throws
Speaker 4: it to that shoulder, not in the numbers like those
Speaker 4: are the nuances of playing against own coverage that take
Speaker 4: a lot of time, Not like I know there's a
Speaker 4: spot between the corner and safety. It's like, but when
Speaker 4: the ball gets released, what's going to be there? You know?
Speaker 4: Or when the ball gets to me, what's going to
Speaker 4: be there? These guys close pretty.
Speaker 3: Quick, but they're route. Those those veteran tight ends are
Speaker 3: rout savvy, man.
Speaker 4: They really are.
Speaker 3: Number nine on the list, mad is Mark Andrews. I
Speaker 3: don't know that seems maybe a little high, but he's
Speaker 3: obviously still getting some veteran respect. He was number six
Speaker 3: on this list last year, falls down to number nine
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 4: And both those are a little bit of lifetime achievement awards.
Speaker 4: Although the names you mentioned don't blow me away that
Speaker 4: they should knock them out of the top ten either.
Speaker 3: Number eight Kyle Pitts Senior. He was actually he was
Speaker 3: actually unranked on this last year, but had a had
Speaker 3: a bounce back year this past season.
Speaker 4: If you're if you take away what the Falcons paid
Speaker 4: for him on.
Speaker 3: Draft day, yes, I think that's good.
Speaker 4: That works against him a lot. You know a lot
Speaker 4: of people looked at him.
Speaker 3: He didn't draft himself in the top ten.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean he's always been a good play,
Speaker 4: but like this is crazy, Like when he got drafted
Speaker 4: in the Dynasty World. He was the first. He was
Speaker 4: the highest ranked tight end in Dynasty before he ever
Speaker 4: took a snap. People, I mean like.
Speaker 3: People thought he was going to be Brock Bowers.
Speaker 4: Right, he's the next unbelievable matchup problem. And he's been good.
Speaker 4: You know, he's big, fast, he gets downfield. He seems
Speaker 4: to get a little better every year. They just gave
Speaker 4: him money, but he's not a transcendent. We've never seen
Speaker 4: anyone like him. Use the fifth pick in the draft, guy,
Speaker 4: you know, he'd have went the second round.
Speaker 3: And be like, boy, that's that's a nice player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really really good player.
Speaker 3: If he would have been drafted where Fannin was, they'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh yeah late first.
Speaker 4: I mean, if we didn't just look at him like
Speaker 4: it's kind of like the Trevor Lawrence thing. It's like,
Speaker 4: if you're not the best quarterback in the league, then
Speaker 4: you know you're not so good, you.
Speaker 3: Know, ye, yep, that's a great point. Number seven. One
Speaker 3: of the guys, I know, you really like Colson Loveland
Speaker 3: of the Chicago Bears. Just twenty two years in the
Speaker 3: top three next year. He obviously wasn't ranked on this
Speaker 3: last year because he's just a rookie, yeah, for just
Speaker 3: twenty two years old. For what he was able to
Speaker 3: do this season, For what he has with Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: and with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4: Very capable blocker.
Speaker 3: He's going to be around for a long time.
Speaker 4: He already has the route running acumen. Like Warren might
Speaker 4: be ahead of him on this list. A lot of
Speaker 4: people when they both came out thought Warren was the
Speaker 4: better prospect than Loveland. I never did because if you
Speaker 4: watch Penn State tape, it was kind of like the
Speaker 4: fan and thing like, we're going to manufacture all these
Speaker 4: ways to get our best player of the football, which
Speaker 4: is how you pete Iowa, you know, right. But Loveland
Speaker 4: got open on his own. He didn't need the man,
Speaker 4: he didn't need the help.
Speaker 3: He would ended up getting drafted higher.
Speaker 4: There and you end up going higher a couple of spots, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Number six, another young guy, another one of Matt and
Speaker 3: I's crushes. If you've listened to this show over the
Speaker 3: past year, it's Tucker Craft of the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4: I adore.
Speaker 3: He was an honorable mention on this last year, year three.
Speaker 3: He checks in at number six.
Speaker 4: I also think he'll be higher but I know these
Speaker 4: names ahead of him are pretty good too.
Speaker 3: If he gets back to being fully hid healthy. My goodness,
Speaker 3: he's I mean.
Speaker 4: He's more physical than a lot of this receiver. First dude,
Speaker 4: he's got a lot more kittle.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say he's got some kittle nasty
Speaker 3: to his game. Number five is Tyler Warren of the
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4: Another one behind those two.
Speaker 3: I think I'd have him behind those two. But I
Speaker 3: tell you what, when you kind of again you assess
Speaker 3: the state of this position, there are so many good
Speaker 3: twenty five and under league right now, and Tyler Warren
Speaker 3: is certainly one.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's definitely one of them, and he could have
Speaker 4: a ton of production this year too, especially with Pittman
Speaker 4: being gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's a that's a good call by you.
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren checks in at number five. So we got
Speaker 3: a rookie at number five, a rookie at number seven
Speaker 3: from last year's draft class, Number four Matt speaking of Iowa,
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta of the Detroit Lions. He was three on
Speaker 3: this list last year. He checks in at four this year.
Speaker 4: A little bit injury stuff, but like all Iowa guys,
Speaker 4: he can block better than you think. You know, he's
Speaker 4: not going to be a killer, he's not going to
Speaker 4: be Gronk, but he's a really high end player. And
Speaker 4: like Fannin got so much manufactured for him in Cleveland
Speaker 4: lastlast year, no one's gonna do that for the Portero.
Speaker 4: They got Jamison Williams, they got Saint Brown, Teslas guy
Speaker 4: like and Gibbs. You know. So he's just like fighting
Speaker 4: for to be the third option, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: in a different offense, he'd be featured a lot more.
Speaker 3: It's amazing how Iowa pumps out. That's those tight ends, man,
Speaker 3: like it, They're unbelievable. It might be the Ohio state
Speaker 3: and wide receivers would be in the conversation, Like, there'd
Speaker 3: be a couple.
Speaker 4: Others without a doubt, and there's like no misses.
Speaker 3: It might be the number one position of like what
Speaker 3: what position group in college translates to the NFL the
Speaker 3: best in all of college football? Right, it's not Alabama
Speaker 3: this or Georgia that, or I mean Ohio state wide
Speaker 3: receivers would be in the conversation. But the answer is
Speaker 3: probably Iowa tight ends.
Speaker 4: And most of them aren't super high picks either, you know,
Speaker 4: we're gonna get the Kittle. He's an Iowa guy, a
Speaker 4: name to know, and he could cause problems with Steelers.
Speaker 4: Cincinnati's Eric All also from Iowa. He's a guy that
Speaker 4: he might be an honorable mention next year.
Speaker 3: Number three on this list, the top three, And speaking
Speaker 3: of the Iowa guys, it is George Kittle. He was
Speaker 3: number two on last year's list. Matt slides down to
Speaker 3: number three this year.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I know who the top two are.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be super productive guys. Kittles again, I think
Speaker 4: one of the most underaged tight ends in history because
Speaker 4: he's as good a blocker as he is a receiver.
Speaker 4: He's great after the catch. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 4: just tremendous.
Speaker 3: He's nasty. Yeah, yeah, a lot of these tight ends
Speaker 3: are great receivers. Yeah, he's just an all around nasty player.
Speaker 4: He's a real pain to butt play.
Speaker 3: Yes, he is into the top two Matt and again, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a ton of a ton of
Speaker 3: surprise or controversy with these top two, but they go.
Speaker 3: Number two is Trey McBride. He was number four Massive
Speaker 3: numbers number four on this list last year and moves
Speaker 3: up to number two. Matt in terms of just past
Speaker 3: catching stuff. He had one of the great individual seasons
Speaker 3: ever for an NFL tight end last year.
Speaker 4: I remember the year before, Everyone's like, I don't know
Speaker 4: where to take this guy in fantasy. He can't touch touchdowns, Like,
Speaker 4: he can't cut the touchdown. It didn't have any of
Speaker 4: the year before the ge won. That's that's not like
Speaker 4: a thing.
Speaker 3: I had him on my fantasy team last year in
Speaker 3: my big money league, and he, uh, he tracked me
Speaker 3: to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My first round pick was Justin Jefferson, which killed me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's brutal, But Trey McBride I ended up getting in
Speaker 3: later rounds and he picked up some of that slack. Matt.
Speaker 3: This is an insane stat. He averaged basically seventy three
Speaker 3: yards per game last year. He was he was like
Speaker 3: seventy two point nine to two.
Speaker 4: Really good for a wide receiver, right, really good for
Speaker 4: wide receiver.
Speaker 3: So basically he averaged seventy three receiving yards per game.
Speaker 3: That was sixteen more yards than any other tight end
Speaker 3: per game in the league.
Speaker 4: Wow, the next closest one of the most ever first years.
Speaker 3: I would I would think so, Yeah, they threw.
Speaker 4: The ball a ton. They're always losing and right.
Speaker 3: He also had eleven receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he couldn't catch s touchdowns.
Speaker 3: But number one on this list, Matt, and I don't
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of controversy here. He was number
Speaker 3: one on this list last year as a rookie. He
Speaker 3: stays at the top this year. Still just twenty three
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 4: Brock Powers, I believe he can become an all time great.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's a really strong case, and
Speaker 4: you may know better than me, that he's the best
Speaker 4: college tight end that's ever lived.
Speaker 3: Like I'd have to really think about that, but he's
Speaker 3: definitely in the conversation.
Speaker 4: People say, ditka, but I mean that's going by back
Speaker 4: a ways, dude, I mean that's the fifties. I mean,
Speaker 4: but in terms of college player, a lot of people
Speaker 4: think he's the best college tight end.
Speaker 3: Ever won two national championships.
Speaker 4: Are not washing on the bench. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: He's he's just insane, and he has not been in
Speaker 3: the best situations in Vegas. He is. He has continued
Speaker 3: to produce and had seven touchdowns in twelve games last year.
Speaker 3: Set the rookie record with one hundred and twelve catches
Speaker 3: the year before. Now, with a better coaching staff in place, and.
Speaker 4: You know Mendoza, Mendoza and him.
Speaker 3: Growing up together, he could he could be lighting it
Speaker 3: up for a long time.
Speaker 4: I've mentioned a few times. One thing I'm really excited
Speaker 4: about for him is I think he could have a
Speaker 4: monster season. We kind of talked about fantasy a little bit,
Speaker 4: like I'm willing to use a very high pick on him.
Speaker 4: But a year from now, when the Raiders, when it's
Speaker 4: Mendoza's second year, it's the coaching staff second year, and
Speaker 4: they had the third pick in the draft, and they
Speaker 4: take Jeremiah Smith and he's not getting doubled every snap,
Speaker 4: he may set every tight end record of all time.
Speaker 3: Now that's a great I mean, think.
Speaker 4: About the Raiders if they added Jeremiah Smith or the
Speaker 4: third pick in the draft or something, right, I'd.
Speaker 3: Be like having Gronk and Randy Moss at the same time. Right,
Speaker 3: good luck?
Speaker 4: Then young quarterback might like that.
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