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The forty looks like nobody touched it. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.160 This this, this painting robot came out of the blocks. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.479 Matt like Usain Bolt. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.039 First innings are great, unbelievable, and. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.240 Then it's looked like me out there ever since not, so. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.640 We stopped painting the numbers too. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.360 And you know, right, this is why we rely on man, right. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.319 And it's almost like they put off white in instead 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:23.640 of white. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.400 Yeah, it's still Payton straight and everything. It's just it's 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.240 not nearly as bright as it used out taking a 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.040 break now, they've kind of pulled it off to the side. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.760 I wonder if it's just too hot out there, you know, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.200 I wonder if it's a little too hot out there. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.679 They're testing the microphones. Yep, down on the field once 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.080 again for of course a big day tomorrow, Steelers Hall 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.360 of Honor. It's also welcome back to football weekend around 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:45.479 the NFL. As now all thirty two NFL teams officially 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.000 into training camp. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.520 I think area in Pats. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:54.000 Yeah, well, because because some there's certain there's certain Hall 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.920 of Fame game and stuff like that, and you know, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.000 even if you have a new head coach, you're allowed 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.320 some parameters. But I think it was I think it 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.320 was yesterday the Broncos were the last remaining team. I 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:06.960 want to say, don't quote me on that, but I 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.720 feel like yesterday the Broncos had their first day of 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.920 practice and I think they were the last remaining team, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.480 But obviously a big weekend as football is is football is. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.280 Yeah, there's headlines every couple hours. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.480 And we love it. And hopefully we'll have some big 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.440 headlines tomorrow, certainly when we learn the Steelers new Hall 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.800 of Honor class at ten am. Right here on Steelers 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.160 Nation Radio, Matt, you had a fun idea for a segment, 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.360 and I figured. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.600 This could be several segments. Oh, I think two, maybe 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.560 three segments, maybe a week long segment. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:38.760 Right where Matt said. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.640 Most every position might take up a segment. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.639 Matt said, let's and this could be something we could 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.640 kind of bob and weave, you know, throughout training camp 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.880 and doing too here depending on how how deep we 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.520 get into these weeds. But Matt had a good idea 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.959 for a segment, basically saying let's let's. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.320 Actually Dale had a good idea for a segment. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.840 That's true actually right used to this was something that 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.760 something that Dale came up with a few years ago 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.560 that basically just go through the Steelers roster today verse 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.480 three hundred and sixty five days ago. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.359 Yeah, what was their training camp roster then and compared to. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.360 Now, compared to now? And what do you where do 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:11.960 you think they improved. Where do you think maybe they 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.880 took a little bit of step back, And you said 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.920 you preface this by saying, like, hey, you gotta be 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.359 honest with how you felt last year. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.120 You can't cheat you. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.120 You can't in hindsight, go oh, I knew John hu 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.880 Smith was gonna stink when everyone thought that. You know, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.880 he was going to be a welcome member of that 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.200 offense with Arthur Smith, with that tight end group. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.520 So this time of year, everybody's optimistic. You go, oh, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.440 this is so much better. No one's gonna get hurt. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.920 This rookie's going to hit blah blah blah blah blah. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.120 But if you're honest with yourself and you remember, to 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.200 the best of your abilities, when you were sitting here 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.720 one year ago, what you thought of each position group, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.040 and be like, boy, I had a lot of questions 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.880 about this guy, but boy, he's a lot better now. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.800 Or I was worried he was really old about hit 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.200 the wall. They looked better, or I didn't think he 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:55.600 was ready hit the wall, but he hit the wall, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.720 you know what I mean. So of course we're not 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.000 going to be right for cacheries and right right right, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.360 and there's new bodies. But I do think it's interesting 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.720 and I'll be honest, every year that we've done it 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.480 really over able to say the Omar Kahn era because 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.040 of a different style team building, and Rob King talks 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.039 about this a lot each year. I do think the 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.960 roster across the board has improved. I mean as a whole. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.000 As a whole, I mean more often than not I 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.960 say I like this position group. Maybe it's only three 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.039 percent more, but more than I like this position group 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.120 last year. And you have to be honest with yourself 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.960 now again, I heard Rob talking on the show before 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.920 us saying, you know, in the locker room and the 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:45.560 driver Cohorton out there before we came on, and one 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.120 thing he brings up, and I need to bring it 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.440 up more on the air because I do like the 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.039 Steelers roster. But what worries me is the most about 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.120 maybe the Steelers roster is who are the superstars? You know, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:59.520 who are the guys. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.839 That can drag you over the line and get you 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:03.400 a victory? 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.200 Yeah, you know, like man if Burrow's hot today, we're 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.680 in trouble. If Lamar's hot today, or boy, I hope 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.600 we can contain Chase or yeah, I'm just going around 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.400 to the division. You know at Miles Garrett guy, how 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.760 we're getting him blocked? I can't sleep tonight? Or what 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.120 are they gonna do with Kyle Hamilton? 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 You know, like that time when Ben Roethlisberger had back 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.120 to back five hundred yard passing games, Like, what are 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:24.479 you gonna do? 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.359 The students A had a million of them? I mean, TJ. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.440 Watt was that guy two years ago? And you know, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.560 is he still? I don't know. And that's not to 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.520 say like Cam Hayward Zack Frazier aren't great players, but 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.479 are they guys that just like I can't sleep it 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.520 all week dealing with these dudes Tyreek in his prime, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.120 you know, just terrifying players. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.640 Where you want to start, Matt, you want to start 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.960 with the quarterback? Yeah? Yeah, sure, let's start. We'll start 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:47.560 with the prom kid. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.719 It's a tough one just because it's. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.240 Only one difference. It's Skyler Thompson and Drew Aller. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.440 But but you're definitely like Aler more than tom I 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.680 mean you got to also have to say, since we 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.320 haven't done this before, I'll kind of coach you up, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.680 like Rudolph better now than you did then, I'd say 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.080 he's the same. To me, I think I like Howard 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.080 better now than I did then. I mean, we just 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.120 met him. I was gonna a six round pick. I 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:11.479 don't know. 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.520 I think he has to be the same because. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.440 He's closed because he didn't get to see anything. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.440 I haven't seen him between the white lines, even in 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:18.680 a preseason game yet. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.960 But we've at least heard people in the organization. He's 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.000 super impressive. He's been around an extra year. But I'm 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.440 not gonna like if they're madd in grades, I'm not 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.040 gonna move him from a fifty to a seventy. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.080 Yes, exactly right. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.840 But if you think about what you thought of him 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.000 one year ago, it's like, oh, this six round pick 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.400 just won the national title. He's kind of interesting, you know, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.640 but you weren't. You weren't jumping out of your skin 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:41.320 yet for him. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.680 I'm not jumping out of my skin for him right now. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:44.280 Me neither. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.120 I'm not jumping out of my skin for Will or 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.920 for Drew until again I see them do something real, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.920 at least against another team that's trying. Maybe even if 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.400 it is only preseason. That's an interesting one because I 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.320 you definitely feel better about aler than Skylar Thompson. There's 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.880 no doubt there. Yeah, I would say Will Howard and 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.360 Mason Rudolph are about the same. To use your Madden 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.960 Great analogy. Yeah, if I would have had Aaron Rodgers 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.360 as an eighty four overall out of one hundred last year, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.680 I'd probably have him as an eighty three overall out 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.440 of one hundred right now. See, Okay, although you got 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.360 to put in the Mike McCarthy factor and the Michael 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.480 Pittman junior factor. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.120 See you're new to this exercise. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.520 Those things don't matter. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.360 We No, it definitely matters. But what is hard. The 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.800 hardest thing about this exercise is trying to rewind one 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:36.280 year because one year ago, boy he had just all 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.800 he saw was OTAs. You know, you didn't know what 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.440 kind of player was. He was just a jet You know, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.760 that seems like a million years ago. So you're basing 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.000 things off jet tape when you're sitting here, like, sure 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.760 he might be shot. Boy, he threw the ball well 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.520 on OTA's or Mini camp, but they he signed late. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.560 I've only seen three mini camp practices at this point 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.560 of Aaron Rodgers. He's impressive of walking around the trobe 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.880 and I can't keep my eyes off the dude. But 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.600 his jet stint wasn't great, you know, Like, I definitely 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.920 think last year with the Steelers was better than his 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.360 jet time. Yes, so I think his stock went up 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.320 just because I got to see more than what I 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.400 was basing his playoff of. But at his age, like 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.000 this is probably true for like Cam Hayward too, like you, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:28.440 probably logic tells you the quote old dudes you should 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.440 feel worse about of course, I mean just of course 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.840 father time it's undefeated, right all right, right, so he's 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.080 kind of a tough one. Do you feel better about 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.640 Rogers sitting in the booth today or do you feel 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.280 better about Rogers one year ago before you ever really 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.200 saw him in Steeler pads. That's a great call because 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.040 it's really easy to cheat and remember what happened as 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.080 a Steeler. You're like, maybe he should be an MVP 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.840 this year. Yeah, like you know, interesting, Yeah, it's it's 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.400 it's some of the players are easy. When we get 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.000 to Jaylen Warren, my my thoughts haven't changed much. I 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.360 like him, like him now you're that expection blah bla 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.680 blah blahah But to put yourself in the shoes of 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.560 what did I truly think of Aaron Rodgers. Part of 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.520 me was terrified, like this guy might be shot, he 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:19.559 might be horrible. Part of me was like, right, right, right. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.520 I think I would go slightly better with the quarterback, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.520 with the room. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.679 I would I prefer it now. Yes, I also think 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.400 there's four options as opposed to three or maybe even 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:32.880 thought of two. At that point. You didn't look at 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.920 the six round pick and be like, that's an option. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.120 Sure ago, sure, sure, that's a that's a That's a 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.520 very tough one to break down. The quarterback room there 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:42.480 because there hasn't been a ton of change. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.320 But there'll be some positions that are easy. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.240 Yeah, I think like offensive line feels like it'll be 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.280 pretty easy. Why receiver feels. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.880 Like why receiver is probably the obvious one. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.320 Pretty a pretty obvious one. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.080 Although I know this sounds are mean, but I had 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.280 higher expectations for Metcalf a year ago than I do now. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.280 I'm not saying this year was disappointing, but he's one 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.920 year older. Yeah, you're just giving up a second round pick. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.200 You look at this crazy looking wide receiver on the 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.440 hoof running around out here for the first time going whoa, Yeah, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:12.080 you know what I mean. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.600 He looked like something they hadn't had in that position 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:14.840 for a long time. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.080 But definitely receiver stronger, yes than it. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.559 Was that because and that's that's that's probably another one 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.040 that's fairly easy because you add you add Michael Pittman 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.640 Junior to the fold a legit number two, you have 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.520 a what a second round pick in Jeremy Bernard, whereas 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.079 last year it was like DK and a whole lot 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.560 of you waiting for somebody to step up, a whole 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.959 mvs and Roman Wilson and Calvin Austin. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.840 And like collectively, though we had more hope at that 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.160 point for Roman, Yes, I mean he. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.040 Is still Calvin a little bit as well. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.520 Yeah, and again these are not saying these guys are 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.440 terrible or their story. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.680 Ravin Austin and belongs on an NFL roster. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.360 I mean there's a reason, like when I was at 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.800 the Browns, you would write a report every year for 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.840 these players because they're constantly changing. But my report on 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.880 and Wilson now would be lower or less enthusiastic than 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.120 it was after his rookie year, you know what I mean? 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.320 Because it's one more year of proof that maybe he 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.880 isn't going to hit. Yeah, and I'm not saying we 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.320 know the answer that no doubt. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.840 And I think you're fair and what you're saying with 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.600 DK that there's still expectations there, just maybe not quite 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.640 as lofty as they were then. They were very high, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.000 they're really high. But I think I think you add 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.959 Michael Pittman Junior the fold juice, that's enough. That's enough. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.360 I mean, how long has it been we're talking about 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.200 this yesterday. How long has it been since the Steelers 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.000 have had a second wide receiver that you felt very 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.600 confident in. It's it's been a long time. It's it's 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:42.439 been a real long time. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.400 Yeah. I mean, I have no qualms that that room 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.280 is better now than it was one. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.760 Year ago, without a doubt, without a doubt. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.720 And it's also better able knock on wood to withstand 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.760 the riggers and injuries that you're gonna deal deal with inevitably. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.720 Yes, if you're if one of your top two misses 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.679 a game or two, yeah you'll still be in a 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.800 rough spot, but it won't be nearly as bad as 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.760 it was last year without DK. The year before that, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.040 without pickings. You've you've certainly got some more cavalry in 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.120 that room right now, without a doubt. Matt, let's let's 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.079 table this exercise for just a few minutes. So we 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.560 did quarterback and wide receiver. Maybe when we return, we'll 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.560 take a look at the defense, do a position group 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.680 or two there, and we can we can, you know, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.400 keep this exercise going throughout the next couple of practices, 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.360 just kind of compared and where the roster was a 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.120 year ago to where it is now, and sometimes. 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.319 The camp too, Like man, I was really high on 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.319 him a year ago and he didn't do enough to 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.080 Caleb Johnson's one of those he's going to be the obvious, yeah, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:39.760 right right. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.320 But then I think there's gonna be some others where 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.240 it was like, hey, I thought Mason McCormick was going 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:45.920 to be a good football player. Now I think he 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.400 could be a great football. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.960 Especially if when we did this going into you know, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.280 his rookie season, it's like, oh, I liked him a 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.719 lot as a fourth round pick. I thought he'd go 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.520 into third round. That's exactly what I thought of him. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.240 And then next year you're like, oh, he should be 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.319 a long time starting. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.600 Guard now like, Hey, now you're like maybe he could 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:02.160 be a pro bowler. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.440 It's all right right, you know, like now he's worth 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.400 a second round pick. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.760 Or yeah, we'll continue this exercise when we return here 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.280 in the second hour. Oh, the line painting robot is 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:12.760 back out. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:13.880 I know where's he going? 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.200 Can we put in a stronger second half performance here 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.760 than we did in the first half? And ain't about 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.560 how you start, mister robot, It's about how you finish. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.960 Yu'll learn Williamson Hi a top chuck Nolefield. 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It needs a little more potency, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.440 it needs a little more oomph, needs a little bit 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.960 more whiteness there, Matt, it's like a light white, like 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.800 an off white, and so they're trying to figure it 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.840 out out here in the sunshine. They got most of 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.960 the numbers painted and all that good stuff. As Matt 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.680 and I will continue to keep you, keep you posting 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.840 the review forty Yeah, sure did having this thing. Listen, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.960 it's training camp for everybody. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.320 Every still learn them. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:05.960 Including me, including the lawn painting robe. On Matt, let's 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.200 continue this exercise of comparing the roster at this point 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.240 to last year, and I think, if we're gonna be 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.960 honest with ourselves, defensive back is a really intriguing one. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.240 Okay, gonna start, let's break it into the corners in 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.480 safety exactly right. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.400 That's I I I sometimes who is here too? Okay? 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.000 So remember last year, of course Joey Porter Junior was 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.400 still here, but he was heading into year two. Uh. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.960 And you had brought in Darius Slay from Philadelphia. Yeah, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.600 you still had Uh. Well, I guess one Thornhill part 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.880 of me will count. We'll count as a safe. As 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.440 a safety, you had Jalen Ramsey who was brought in 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.400 at the time. So Darius Slay, Joey Porter Junior and 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.480 Jalen Ramsey your starters. Behind them. You had Brandon Ecles, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.880 you had Corey Trice, you had James Pierre, you had 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.440 Beanie Bishops still at this point this time last year. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.320 Yeah, I'm doing my best, think what I thought then. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.120 I'm higher on Porter now than then. Absolutely, And I 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.680 was still very I've never really doubted him, but I 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.080 mean after his rookie year, I was quite happy with him, 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.160 you know, right, Yes. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.920 And I think at the time, I don't want to 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.040 say we were crazy high on Darius Slam. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.200 But I didn't. I thought he'd be close to the answer, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.000 or you know. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.160 I think we thought he'd be better than Patrick Peterson, Yeah, 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.680 or some of the other more veteran guys that they 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:27.560 had tried to see. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.920 One of the fun things about this exercise, it teaches 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.760 you how hard this league is. Because I remember many 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.560 times last year saying, Okay, now they can finally play 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.320 a lot of press man coverage with these big corners, Slay, 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:47.320 Ramsey Porter. They have a gluttonous amount of these guys, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:53.760 And then you realized, Slay ain't it. And I still 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.160 really like Ramsey, but he's not the outside corner anymore. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.040 You know, I thought he was then, Yes, you know, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.240 so in some ways, if we're just looking at outside corners, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.119 I was really high on that group. Then I'm thinking, like, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.399 who's going to go to the slot? Ramsey was, who 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.280 leaves the field? They got too many good guys. Now, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.160 something that happened that I guess isn't relevant because he's 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.720 not here. But Pierre really came on strong throughout the year. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.280 We thought him as just a special team team. But 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.080 if he were to happen to come back, I'd be like, boy, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.000 Pierre's a good player, right, Eccles kind of was what 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.119 I thought he was, and I think that's good, you know, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.520 but you don't want him out there every snap. I 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.359 still had hoped for Trice at that point, you know, thinking, man, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.560 maybe he can get back on, you know, get his 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:44.280 career together. So it's sort of similar because like, I 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.920 think I like Dean now more than I liked Sleigh 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.840 then slightly. But it's easy to say because you know 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:51.640 you're saying. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.480 Now, right. But I think again, I think we were 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.280 all confident that Slay was going to be a solid contributor. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.159 I think ye coming off a Super Bowl with the 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.680 Eagles right, part of a great defense, and yeah, I 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.280 thought you could get another year of him, not as 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.399 a superstar, but certainly as a viable starter. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.200 I think I like Ramsey better then, yes. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.560 And like Port better now. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:11.280 Yeah. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:12.879 So those kind of even each other out. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.280 I think having Everett in the mix is something that's 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.720