1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hi, this is new due to the virus I'm recording 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: from home. See you may notice a difference in audio 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: quality on this episode of News World. There is a 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: red tsunami overtaking the so called blue wave. We have 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: more Republicans elected at every level of government coming out 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: of November election. Of course, the national attention is being 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: drawn to the Senate runoff races in Georgia. Those two 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: races will determine the control of the United States Senate. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: But the real news is what Republicans achieved in historic firsts. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: In Georgia, we elected the first Republican Latino to the 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: State Senate, Jason and of Vitarte. In Kansas, who elected 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the youngest woman to the state Senate, Christin O'sheay. In 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: North Carolina, we elected the first African American Lieutenant Governor, 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Mark Robinson, among many other firsts. Here to share more 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: of these achievements is my guest, Edith Jorge Tunion, the 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Republican State Leadership Committee's political director. Edith jorge In Tunion 17 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: is the political director of the Republican State Leadership Committee. Edith, 18 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: thank you for joining me, and I want to start 19 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: because I think the Republican State Leadership Committee does great 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: work and I've worked with it for many years, but 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: it's not really as well known as the Republican National 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Committee or the House and Senate twentee, could you take 23 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: just a minute to describe what the Republican State Leadership 24 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Committee does, absolutely, and thank you for having me on 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: today to talk a little bit about our organization and 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: how November was quite a success for us. We at 27 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: the RSLF, we pride ourselves on being the only fifty 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: state organization that focuses only on state level elections, candidates 29 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: and elected officials. So what that means is we engage 30 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: in all levels of state legislative races, both on the 31 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: House and Senate side. We engaged with our Republican Lieutenant 32 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Governors association, with our Secretaries of States, and also our 33 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: Agriculture Commissioners, in addition to our Jai FI, which is 34 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: our Judicial Fairness initiative. So think of them as subcommittees, 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: all underneath the umbrella of the RFLC, but where the 36 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: goal and focus is state level races, that's kind of 37 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the name of the game. So I form perspective, tell 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: us how the country looks today at the state legislative 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: level as compared to the day before the election, we 40 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: had a really great election evening and quite frankly weeks 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: that came after. We went into this election with one 42 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing in mind, and that was redistricting. As 43 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: many of us know, the census was taking place over 44 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: the year and is going to really dictate what redistricting 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: looks like in terms of these new maps that will 46 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: be proposed in many cases at the legislative level that 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: will have to be voted on, and depending on what 48 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: those maps look like, will be who's going to be 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: in control for the next ten years. And that was 50 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: really what was at stake this time around. And so 51 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: what we had determined was in twelve states, which were 52 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: your obvious priority states, your North Carolina's, your Georgia's, Pennsylvania's, Wisconsins, 53 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: on and go forth. In those twelve states, as little 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: as forty two state legislative seats could have an impact 55 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: up to one hundred and thirty six congressional shift at 56 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day. And this was not data 57 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: that we came up with. We took this directly from sourcing. 58 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: We used five to thirty eight. They have a really 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: great resource or what maps can look like in both 60 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: cases for best case for Democrats and best case for Republicans, 61 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: so kind of match those up we did. The mask 62 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: is a real issue. If we don't start ringing the 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: alarm now and we don't get people to focus on 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the importance of twenty twenty and redistricting, we can be 65 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: in a position where we lose power both at the 66 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: federal level and the state level for the next ten years. 67 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And so that was what we kind of set out 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: to do. We started ringing the alarms in late twenty 69 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: nineteen when we rolled out our redistricting plan and platform. 70 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: We spent all of twenty twenty emphasizing these are the 71 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: states where there's key battles that we need to engage in. 72 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: What are the tangible things that are at stake and 73 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: at risk if we don't engage, and if we lose 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: this very small number quite frankly, of legislative seats in 75 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: these states. And I'm proud to say we came out 76 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: of this election cycle in a much better place than 77 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: we were. We were able to pick up up to 78 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: three legislative chambers, those being both the House and Senate 79 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire and the Alaska House, which is a 80 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: little bit of a funny dynamic there, but we feel 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: pretty confident, having engaged in the primary, that we were 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: able to secure enough seats to have a working majority 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: on the House level. We were thinking about some of 84 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: our caucuses. We were able to elect the first African 85 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: American lieutenant governor in North Carolina. In states like Arizona 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: where the odds were really against us, where we had 87 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: razorsin majorities two on the Senate, one on the House, 88 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: we were able to be strategic enough with the decisions 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: that we've made to really maximize on our potential and 90 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: not let something like a one seat majority get in 91 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: the way of us maintaining control of the state like Arizona. 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: That was what was at risk this cycle. I know 93 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: that we did everything that we could, and we walked 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: away not just in a better place for the party, 95 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: for ourselves, but in a better place for the nation 96 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: as a whole for the next ten years to come. 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: It's really interesting to me because all of the news 98 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: media publicity had been about this Democratic blue Way, how 99 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: they were going to sweep at every level, and I 100 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: think I much doing a great shock election night to 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: see the gap between what they had promised and what 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: was actually happening. I know in the US House, they 103 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: really thought they were going to pick up fifteen seats 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and instead they've ended up losing seats. And I think similarly, 105 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: there was a sense that they had a real chance 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: to make inroads in the state legislators and you all 107 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: turned that back decisively. Could you see that coming. Did 108 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: you have a sense that the ground realities were different 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: than the news media coverage. I felt good going into 110 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: the election. I knew we were going to do better 111 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: than most people expected us too. I'd be lying if 112 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I told you that I thought we were going to 113 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: do as well as we did. There was no doubt 114 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: in my mind that Republicans were outperforming what was to 115 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: be expected. And I think you can cock that up 116 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: to a couple of things. I think Democrats really shot 117 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: themselves in the foot with this kind of defund the 118 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: police movement, and quite frankly, it helped us in the suburbs, 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: which is an area that we had been struggling with 120 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: for the last three or four years, and a big 121 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: part of it is that message of security. Quite frankly, 122 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the suburbs were hurting 123 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: us because it's a lot of suburban mothers, college educated 124 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: voters that when you really pair up that message with 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: their security, their livelihood, the familial nucleus, it's like a 126 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: switch goes off and they start to think about themselves 127 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: a little more and there's a little less empathy involved 128 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: in their voting habits. And so we made it a 129 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: point to make sure that our folks were talking about 130 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: that certainly being very understanding of everything that was happening 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: in the nation and supportive of measures that needed to 132 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: be taken, but also kind of establishing themselves as the 133 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: folks that could balanced and get the job done, which 134 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: is to say, we can tackle racial inequality, and we 135 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: can also tackle police reform without a drastic shift to 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: the left, such as defunding an entire police department. And 137 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: I think the second thing that really helped us and 138 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: benefited us was, especially with our incumbents, we were proponents 139 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: of keeping the economy open and doing so safely, of 140 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: getting kids back to school and doing so safely. It 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: goes back to this idea that we can tackle on 142 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: more than just one thing at a time and do 143 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: it well. And so in a lot of these cases 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: we had legislators going back for special session passing, whether 145 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: it is state specific relief packages, whether it was ordinances 146 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to keep industries alive and running while also keeping individuals 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: and cities safe, and that varied across the nation and 148 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: across the states themselves. You're seeing right now in states 149 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:07,119 Speaker 1: where Republicans had a decisive kind of prioritizing of individuals, citizens, residents. 150 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: When it came time to COVID, we won outstandingly and 151 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Democrats just kind of doubled down on this everything needs 152 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: to shut down, we need to be bunkered up, and 153 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that that really hurt them as well in November, 154 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: And kind of my last piece to all of this 155 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and why I think we really did perform much better 156 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: than expected was, you know, we never lost that sense 157 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: of interpersonal connectivity and relationship building, which I think was huge. 158 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: And in states like Texas, Arizona, Florida, our folks were 159 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: still out there knocking on doors again safely, right. There's 160 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: a smart way to go about things, and I think 161 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that voters really appreciated that. And I think we've heard 162 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: a ton of about this, but there was certainly a 163 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: sense of fatigue. There was certainly a sense of what 164 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: are you guys doing to make this better? What are 165 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you guys doing to get our lives back to normal? 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: And in some cases you had some elected officials that 167 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: were able to point directly to what they had been 168 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: able to do to make their lives a little better 169 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: during this pandemic. In other cases, you had individuals that 170 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: were going out running for the first time that we're 171 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: literally trying to win their vote, and it required them 172 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: door knocking and having that face to face, in person contact. 173 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: So I would say those were kind of three of 174 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: the main things that really led to at the local 175 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: and state level, voters giving Republicans their vote and believing 176 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: that they were the better option this time around. I 177 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: understand it correctly. You actually picked up forty out of 178 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: forty two seats that were Republican districts held by Democrats. 179 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: That's an amazing turnaround to have that big a change. Yes, 180 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: we gave ourselves several paths to how we could keep 181 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: these seats or how we could expand our majorities, or 182 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, being realistic about it. We knew 183 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: we were going to lose our seats, so how do 184 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: we offset that, how do we kind of keep that balance. 185 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: And so one of the paths that we identified were 186 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: these Trump won Democratic held districts across these twelve states, 187 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: and you know, we said, if President Trump could win 188 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: here and he's on the ballot again, there has to 189 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: be something to be said about running a Republican in 190 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: that district and how you can capitalize on some of 191 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: those votes. So that was one pathway that we used. 192 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: In other cases, we kind of proved this notion of 193 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: candidates matter, and so we went out and we worked 194 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: with the state bocuses in different independent groups to find 195 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: the best suitable candidate for that district. And what that 196 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: meant was diversity. Diversity was very important, not just African American, 197 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Hispanic Asian American, but adding female candidates to the roster. 198 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I think we saw that too at the federal level. 199 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: At the congressional level, I mean, this was the year 200 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: of the woman, and it certainly was the year of 201 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: the Republican woman. The last number that we had and 202 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: obviously there's still a couple of hundred seats that were 203 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: waiting to be determined, but we had a sixty percent 204 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: success rate on the women candidates that ran at the 205 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: legislative level. To me, that means that this is a 206 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: smart move as a party. It's something that I think 207 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: we've been working towards for a really long time. But 208 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: it goes back to this notion of having the right 209 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: candidate for the right district is essentially a recipe for success. 210 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: And more importantly, one of the things that we would 211 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: say often too is we knew we needed to do 212 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: better at recruiting minorities and female candidates to run, but 213 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: oftentimes we didn't run them in the districts that mattered, right. 214 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: We would run them in these inner city districts that 215 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: quite frankly, it was going to be a long shot 216 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: to begin with, and we thought that made sense. What 217 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: end up happening is you never actually had the opportunity 218 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: to highlight these individuals or quite frankly, get them across 219 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: the finish line, because there was never really a district 220 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: that was meant to be won by Republicans. What we 221 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: looked at doing this time around was let's put these 222 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: individuals in these Tier one districts, in these highly contested districts, 223 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: and let's see how we fare when we kind of 224 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: shift our strategy a little bit in that way. And 225 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: I think it proved to be really successful. I'm really 226 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: excited of what it means for us as a party. 227 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: This is probably the first year that we can really 228 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: kind of brag quite frankly about what we've done from 229 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: an outreach perspective. And on top of that, these are 230 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: the new role models in a sense for the party. 231 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: The folks we can put in front of cameras, the 232 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: folks we can get on podcasts to talk about why 233 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: they're Republican, what it means to be Republican. And then 234 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: people like myself or young African Americans or Asian Americans 235 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: or females, when they hear someone that looks like them, 236 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that reminds them of them, that had a similar upbringing 237 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: to them talking about why they're Republican. I mean, it 238 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: brings a completely different type of legitimacy to the table 239 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: that I don't know that we necessarily had in the past. Well, 240 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely interesting to me because you were clearly outspent 241 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 1: by better than two to one by your Democratic counterpart, 242 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: and yet despite the money difference, you were able to 243 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: be effective and really beginning to create real breakthroughs. Yeah, 244 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: we estimate that they spent about half a billion dollars 245 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: billion with a B, which is definitely the first in 246 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: terms of at the state level. I don't think that 247 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: this much money has ever been in the mix. That 248 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of opens up the door to a completely different conversation, 249 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: which is where did they go wrong? I think they 250 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: relied on their old kind of playbook, and I think 251 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the irony behind that. There's there's two things that I 252 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: think are pretty ironic. On the first hand, that face 253 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: to face, that community building, the door knocking, the phone banking. Ah, 254 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: that's the grassroots that sometimes we take a little bit 255 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: for granted. I think the irony behind that is, you know, 256 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: that is literally how Obama won. And you can ask 257 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: the RNC, you can ask political director Chris Carr. Every 258 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: single one of their field directors has to read the 259 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: book Ground Brass, and that is literally how Obama created 260 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: a ground team and a ground organization to get out 261 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: the vote and build this grassroots effort like never before. 262 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: We picked up quickly on that as a party, and 263 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I think there's so much irony to the fact that 264 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Democrats really didn't do that this time around, and I 265 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: think it was to their dutchriment. But then the other 266 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: thing that I think was interesting was you had Democrats 267 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: as early as April pushing for vote by mail, early vote, 268 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: and whether or not you agree with that, what you 269 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: certainly have to disagree with is if you've been for 270 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: six months telling people to vote early, to vote by mail, 271 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: why would you dump millions of dollars on television, on digital, 272 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: on radio two to three weeks out from election day. 273 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: We've seen this play before hundreds of time. We saw 274 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: it in twenty nineteen in Virginia. We saw it again 275 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: this year. But the difference this year was that by 276 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: that time, either the electorate already had a pretty good 277 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: idea of who they were going to go vote for, 278 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: or quite frankly, had probably already gone and voted. And 279 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: so this notion that you can dumb two three million 280 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: dollars in a district in a state two weeks before 281 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: the election and actually make a dent is no longer valid. 282 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: It was certainly not valid this election cycle, and I 283 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: think it's something that they really need to reanalyze and 284 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: take a step back and say, Okay, how do we 285 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: do this more effectively to what's the time window look like? 286 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: And I think we benefited from that as well, because 287 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, starting this year, we made a promise to 288 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: all of our states that we wanted to spend more 289 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: money than ever before, knowing that we were never going 290 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: to spend as much money as they were, but also 291 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: that we wanted to spend it earlier than ever before. 292 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: I had read a study late last year by one 293 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: of these big polling firms that said seventy eight percent 294 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: of campaigns that one had started spending earlier than their 295 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: counterparts that had obviously lost. And so there was something 296 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: to be said there about spending early getting your message 297 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: across now would argue even so in this election cycle 298 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: where you had so many things on the ballot, so 299 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: many races, so many names. You know, a state like 300 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina, you're looking at a ballot that probably had 301 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: twenty names on it before you even got to the 302 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: local level. But another excellent example of when using your money, 303 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: your time, your efforts strategically, you're able to create a 304 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: space for yourself, able to create a name for yourself 305 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: and get individuals to vote for you. And I keep 306 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: using kind of North Carolina's the example because when you 307 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: look at the ballot and who won, I mean, you 308 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: had voters jumping all over the place on those ballots, 309 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: from the top all the way to the bottom. So 310 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: I think there's certainly something to be said for spending 311 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: early and just what that means for politics in general. 312 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Moving forward. You had two places I noticed that had 313 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: remarkable results, in Iowa and in the Texas suburbs. Could 314 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: you comment on those two? Absolutely. Iowa was one of 315 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: those states that I was worried about because of the 316 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: money that was being spent. Similarly, a little later in 317 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: the game, but we knew there had been tons of 318 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: communications from the DLCC, from some of these other independent 319 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: expenditure groups saying that they had their sites on Iowa. 320 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: When looking at the internal data, we did kind of say, okay, 321 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: there's definitely some seats here, whether they're open seats or 322 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: incumbent health seats that are at risk. But then we 323 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: also looked at the inverse and said, okay, where are 324 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: our best opportunities for pickups and what do those numbers 325 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: look like? And so what we realized was there were 326 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: hard decisions that we're going to need to be made, 327 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: but in some cases we were going to have to 328 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: take l on some of the incumbent seats. Knowing that 329 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: we had a really good chance and opportunity to pick 330 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: up some of their incumbent Democrat health seats, and that's 331 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: exactly what happened at the end of the day. But similarly, Iowa, 332 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: I think Bloomberg announced around October the eighth or ninth 333 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: that he was going to be spending was one or 334 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: two million dollars in the state. We're talking about three 335 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: weeks from election day. I don't know how effective that was, 336 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: but it certainly perked up our ears. And then in Texas, 337 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: I think that's probably their biggest failure. We joke about this, 338 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: but Bob was a donor. I was certainly either my 339 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: money back or asked for a very thorough audit of 340 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: how money was spent. One of the things that actually 341 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: really helped us in Texas was that a lot of 342 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: this money was coming from out of state. It wasn't 343 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Texans supporting Texans, it was Californians supporting Texas. We definitely 344 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: echoed that message in hopes that the voters would see 345 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: that this is not a product of yourselves, of your constituents, 346 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: of your state. This is a product of liberal states 347 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: wanting to have an influence in the national scene. And 348 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: I think that was very helpful. But I think also 349 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: in some of these cases, they thought they were going 350 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: to be able to wipe us out from an incumbent perspective, 351 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: and they only were able to win one seat, which 352 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: we were also then able to pick up a seat, 353 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: so we kind of met it the same. But what 354 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: that says to me is that our incumbents that were 355 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: running for reelection did that good of a job, whether 356 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: it was during regular sessions, whether it was reaching out 357 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: to their communities and being engaged, and really they had 358 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: to write because we are at a point in American 359 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: politics where you can't get away with being a handsoff legislator. 360 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: People want to know what you're doing. They want to 361 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: see you posting pictures on Facebook, on Twitter, they want 362 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: to know that you care. It's a very interactive political realm, 363 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: if you will, and I think it's only going to 364 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: have to get more interactive because I think millennials this 365 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: generation Z there's the sense of how are you like me? 366 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: How are you relatable? We've seen it with the Ted 367 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: cruises of the like, where you may feel a certain 368 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: way about him, but you kind of have to agree 369 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: that he has a really great social media presence. And 370 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: I think that the younger population enjoys that. But ultimately, 371 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: what it comes down to is how are you relatable 372 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: to me, what are you doing for your community, and 373 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: why should I vote for you? And I think that 374 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: our candidates and our liked officials did a really great 375 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: job making a case for why they should be reelected. Unfortunately, 376 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: for the Democrats, they felt that just money, quite frankly, 377 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: was going to do the job, because in Texas, I'm 378 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: fairly certain it wasn't until the last maybe two weeks 379 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: that we actually saw Democrats going out and knocking on doors. 380 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: But if you're not knocking on doors, what are you doing? 381 00:22:48,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: You know? There will be a couple of states that 382 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: have elections in twenty twenty one. Will the unolet's see, 383 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: be involved in those states? Absolutely so. We have New 384 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Jersey in Virginia are the big ones for US in 385 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I'm a little biased. I'm originally from 386 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: New Jersey, so I'm very excited about what that means. 387 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: When I started here in twenty nineteen, Virginia was the 388 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: name of the game, and unfortunately they kind of got 389 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: one up on us in the state. But their margins 390 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: are so Thain, we have a real opportunity and a 391 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: real chance to pick back up some of those seats 392 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully get us back into the majority. We are 393 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: going to follow a lot of the same strategic plans 394 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: that we did this time around, which is trying to 395 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: spend more than ever before, spend earlier than ever before, 396 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: use the data to drive our decisions, and with that 397 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: same data, be wise about how our money is spent. 398 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: That does require difficult decisions being made, but sometimes you 399 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: have to make those difficult decisions to have the outcomes 400 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: that you want. And then on top of the legislative level, 401 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: both states also have lieutenant governor elections. In New Jersey 402 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: ticketed election, but in any case, we have the opportunity 403 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: to elect another lieutenant governor to our slate. That would 404 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: be incredibly exciting. And in Virginia we can also coordinate 405 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: directly with a lot of the groups in state and 406 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: so that makes things slightly easier, but it also allows 407 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: us to have a little bit more clarity in a 408 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: sense on who's doing what and making sure that we 409 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: are giving each other the resources that are necessary or 410 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: if there are gaps, you know who can sell what. 411 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: And so we're very excited about next year. But the 412 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: thing that we're going to be emphasizing the most and 413 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: working on the most in addition to these two states 414 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: is probably the recruitment and training aspect of our organization. 415 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, had to really eight year as Republicans 416 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: with going out and recruiting this kind of what a 417 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Republican today is, and I think finding some test cases, 418 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: putting together some best practices, and working with our state 419 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: teams to kind of see how we can capitalize on this, 420 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: how we can grow this, so on and so forth, 421 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: that we'll be helpful to them long term, and especially 422 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: again during the year where the states don't necessarily have 423 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot going on and our building towards twenty twenty 424 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: two and beyond, will you also be recruiting for twenty 425 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: twenty two? Starting in twenty twenty one, Yes, sir, I 426 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: was on the phone with our Florida team and we 427 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: were kind of just having a recap of how, you know, 428 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: the cycle went. They had an excellent, excellent year on 429 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: both the House and Senate side, and we were talking 430 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: just about leading up to election day, we were talking 431 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: to folks on the ground every week, if not more 432 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: than every week, just making sure we had a good 433 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: sense of what was happening, they had everything that they needed. 434 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: In any case, we were kind of doing this post 435 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: election wrap up call, and we were also trying to 436 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: figure out what does communication look like in twenty twenty one. 437 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Is it once a month? Is it once a quarter? 438 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: And we kind of realize that as much as we 439 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: thought it made sense to make it every couple of months, 440 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: by the summer months, they're already out there trying to 441 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: get candidates to run so that they can get them slated, 442 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: ready to go, have everything in hand by January of 443 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So really, at best we have a 444 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: six month hiatus where we were only talking every couple 445 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: of weeks before it switches up and we're back to 446 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: talking regularly to see how things are developing in the States. 447 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: This year will be a lot of growth, I think 448 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: for us internally, taking a lot of what we've seen, 449 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: kind of packaging that up into as I said, resources 450 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: for the states. But the law is only a short 451 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: lived until we're right back up and running. From your experience, 452 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: as I listen to you, for people who want to 453 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: be helpful to the Republican State Leadership Committee, the early 454 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: money actually is vital because it allows you to do 455 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: the targeting and the recruiting and the training long before 456 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: we think about an election. My experience ought to say, 457 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons I've always tried to help 458 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: the Republican State Leadership Committee is that you all are probably, 459 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: dollar for dollar, the most effective of the political committees 460 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: on our side. And so if people do want to 461 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: get involved, how do they find you? So is RSLC 462 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: dot GOP. We're also on Facebook and Twitter as Republican 463 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: State Leadership Committee, but you know the easiest is the 464 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: acronym RSLC. And you're absolutely right, mister speaker. This is 465 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: definitely a new culture, if you will, donating, of engaging, 466 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: of interacting, whether it's with candidates with committees. I think 467 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: the past, what you've seen is there's a big push 468 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: around the months of July, August, September to just kind 469 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: of be able to get through the end of the year. 470 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: But that's changing. That's particularly changing when we're talking about 471 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: half a billion dollars being spent against us. And what 472 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: we really want to get across is you certainly do 473 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: get the best bang for your book with the committee 474 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: like ours. I mentioned We pride ourselves being a fifty 475 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: state organization, so we are involved everywhere in the United States. 476 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: If you're someone that's interested in getting engaged, if you're 477 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: someone that's interested in helping the future of this party, 478 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: all politics is local and where as local as it 479 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: gets great. Listen, Edith, thank you for spending this time 480 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: with us. It's really amazing and you all do a 481 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: great job. Please tell everybody at the RSLC that I 482 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: say hi, and I'm really really proud absolutely the way 483 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: you've helped, I think in some profound ways strengthen and 484 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: help the Republican Party evolved in the direction it had 485 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to go in. Thank you, sir, Thank you very much, 486 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: and I'll make sure that I let the team know 487 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: that he send your regards. And now I'll answer your questions. 488 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for all your great questions we've received today. 489 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to answer Gunner's question. Who is twenty nine 490 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: and from Washington State. Gunner is interested in politics and 491 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: rand was narrowly defeated in a city council rates. He asked, 492 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: how can Republicans win going forward with everything stacked against them? 493 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: His peers are all told in the education system, how 494 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: bad our history was and how bad Republicans are. If 495 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: the media is against us, if Hollywood is against us, 496 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: big tech, and basically everyone, how can we win? We 497 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: need another contract for America moment. Well, I think having 498 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: big issues in big themes does help. But I would 499 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: also say to Gunner that you just heard with Edith 500 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Jorheytunan the remarkable achievements. So we had all over the 501 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: country and they really start with a couple of key things. 502 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Start very early. Go out and go door to door, 503 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: see everybody. Don't assume anybody's opposed to you, and make 504 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: your case. Whether it's a city council or a county commissioner, 505 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: a state legislator, you have to make your case. And 506 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: my experience has been and I think we just proved 507 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: this at every level below the presidency and this election 508 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: that in fact, Republicans who really went out and worked 509 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: hard and communicated what they were doing really had remarkable, 510 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: remarkable impact. So keep your questions coming, and I look 511 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: forward to answering more questions in the future. Thank you 512 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: to my guests, Edith or You can read the rslc's 513 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty top line report on our show page at 514 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: Newtsworld dot com. News World is produced by Gingwa three 515 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: sixty and iHeartMedia. 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