1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: on the radio from one until four, then after four o'clock. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Why'd you mess? Uh, Well, you can hear that after 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: four o'clock Johnny Ken on demand the podcast on the 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: iHeart app. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna give us a shot. The Moist 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: sign's already coming tomorrow. And not a lot of calls 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: have been harvested so far because we weren't here both 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: of us these three days this week. But please leave 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: a message and we'll see what we get. We'll play 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: some calls tomorrow. The iHeartRadio app is one way to 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: do it. The microphone icon with the toll free number 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: seven six six four seven eight eight six. So in 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: my tour of these countries, I mentioned that during this 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: break I was gone. I went to Budapest Vienna proc 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: and it came up, of course, naturally along the way 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: alcohol Apparently, John Russia and Poland contend both that they 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: are the top vodka producer in the world. And somebody 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: told me on the trip that when they went to Poland. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: They got a little chaser a shot of vodka at 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: every meal they were served, Yes, every meal. I can't 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: hit the tiny shot of vodka. I didn't get that 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: when I went there, but I do know growing up with. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: I thought you went there and visited though your father's 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: relatives and stuff. 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: No, I didn't see a lot of boozing going on. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: But historically the Polish, Polish, they knock it down, don't 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: They knock it down pretty hard. Yeah, so much of 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: the history of this whole region. 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: But I mean it's kind of it's just about monarchies, right, 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: and then it's about wars, and then of course religions. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: It's all cathedrals and castles and synagogues and Holy mackerel. 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: I remember there's a lot of castles in the Prague. 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Prague is a lot of castle The Prague Castle is 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: the big one. But the only downside was, oh my god, 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: it was the number of people went to one museum. 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: He could barely turned sideways to move around. It's just 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: am with people. We talk about a super spreader event. 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: But otherwise it's a very interesting place to go to 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: for history. But a lot of history's violent. Well that's 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: that's human nature. And one thing I did not know. 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: A couple of things I did not know. We all know, 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: Nazi that Hitler invaded Poland, right, we all know that 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: the Hitler invaded everywhere? Did you know that six months 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: before that though, he annexed the Czechoslovakia. He just took it, 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: didn't really get a lot of attention. 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: He took it out. Today it's been divided. It was 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: thirty years ago. It was divided into the Czech Republic 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: and Slovakia. That's right, because Prague is in the Czech Republic. 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: It is in the Czech Republic. 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: We went to Slovakia and visited, brought a Slava, which 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: is a nice little town too, also brought a Slava and. 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Slovakia. 57 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: But this is a lot of cars. But before he 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: took the Czech Republic, and then what I found out 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: what I also thought it was interesting because I had 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: this question in my head. And fortunately God, when I 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: was in Vienna, I said, you know, what did happen 62 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: with Austria during the war. Well, Hitler did the same thing. 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: He went over to Austria and annexed it. Right, and 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: so all right, so what happened after the war did 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: the communists commit, No, they didn't, But what Austria did. 66 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: They eventually agreed that they would be a neutral country. 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: They're not in NATO. Oh they're not. I don't know. 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: No, so that's one of the things they agreed to 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: in order to just stay out of things. 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: They'll be neutral until Putin invades Austria, and then they're 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: quickly gonna want to join, exactly like Scandinavian countries, Sweden, Finland, 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: where oh we're neutral. That's right, you're gonna stay out 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: of this. 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Because, you know what, we don't really want to look 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: like for supporting either side. 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: There's too much violence. And then the Russian armies at 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: their border, it's like wait, wait, wait, can we join? 78 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: Is it not too late? They will pay extra and 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: one big downside to the trip. 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: They got to a beautiful hotel in Vienna. I guess 81 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: I won't say the name. It's a really nice hotel 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: right there in the lobby framed. You know, one of 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: the guest book things. I had the great dime Schevatznegger. 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: I'd be back. He was there at twenty eleven. Well, yeah, 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: I know it is, but he stayed at that hotel. 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: He must be. They wanted everyone to know that he 87 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: must be the most famous Austrian of modern times. 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: I would say, without a dead I can't think of 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: too many off the top of my head. 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they named one other famous Austria. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: All right, So the news this afternoon, A couple of 92 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: things to tell you about. Next hour, there's supposed to 93 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: be a press conference in Orange County over the shooting 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: at the biker bar that has left four people dead, 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: including the gunman, who, as it turns out, as a 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: former sergeant in the City of Ventura police departments. He 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: went there looking to kill his wife. They're going to 98 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: an ugly divorce. She was not one of the people 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: who died, but she apparently got shot and injured. The 100 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: full update there maybe some new pieces of information coming out, 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: So carry that press conference coming up after the news 102 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: or around three o'clock here on the Johnny Kenshaw. So, 103 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: I did not watch this debate, did you, John Copelt 104 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: I did. I was good and you can give a 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: better perspective. I was still on the plane coming home. 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: I watched it in reverse. I watched the second half 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: because we landed from the airport. So I got home 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: in time for the second half, and then I found 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: something on the internet to watch the first half, and 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: I had all kinds of mixed reactions. You know, I 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: could enjoy it as a sporting event on its own, 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: but underlying I realized, this is probably a complete waste 113 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: of time because nobody's within forty points of Trump. And 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: then it's amazing nobody's within forty points now. 115 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: But then I thought, well, I guess it's like a 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: holding pen because since he has four trials coming up, 117 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: he could end up in prison and maybe enough of 118 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the public would sour on him just because he's in prison, 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe right, you know, or he could drop dead. Right, 120 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: he's seventy seven years old. So I thought, yeah, I 121 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: guess you. 122 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: Have to have this. There's got to be backups. 123 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: If ordinarily, this would just be a blowout year, and 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't think any of these people would run. But 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: because he's in such a state, it's like, what the hell, 126 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen. 127 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of Trump, we understand he is on his way 128 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: from the airport in New Jersey down to Georgia for 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: a court appearance in the R four o'clock hour for 130 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: the latest charges against him. So the stage was this 131 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis, the entrepreneur. How do you pronounce it? Vivek 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: or vivek Ramaswami, vivek Rama Swami. Yes, I like the 133 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: last name's easy, Rama Swami Rama Swamy uh. Former VP 134 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Mike Pence, former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, former New 135 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Jersey Governor Chris Christy. 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: You see a trend here with former as well as 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: they're out of work. 138 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, former Arkansas Governor John's favorite 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Asa Hutchinson, and the North Dakota Governor Doug Berg. 140 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Gom he is an Asa. I'll tell you Asa. Yeah. 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Asa was was Asam. I right, He's the only one 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: that did not hold up his hand. The question was 143 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: if Trump is convicted on these charges, would you still 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: support him if he's the Republican nominee. We have the 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: audio to play, but I understand I looked at the 146 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: video of it. It went slowly, A couple of hands 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: go up, and then a couple of people look around. 148 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: I'll put my hand up. Nobody really wanted to do that, right, 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: because you look like a fool. You've got a guy 150 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: who has ninety one felonies against him and put aside 151 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: how you feel about Trump or whether you think the 152 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: felonies are just or not. The guy has ninety one felonies. 153 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: You're running for president and you're supposed to put your 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: hand up saying I support them. 155 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: No matter what. Now he's the nominee, I'll still support you. 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: We don't even know what's going to come out of 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: these trials. 158 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: You know, the prosecution, they hold back a lot of 159 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: the evidence, and we haven't heard the whole story told 160 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: from beginning to end. And then after you hear the 161 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: whole story, people may feel a lot differently about what's 162 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: going on. 163 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Not that thirty seven percent of Republicans say they support 164 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: Trump no matter what. There's a certain because everything is fake. 165 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: It's all just to get Trump because they don't like them. 166 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: Here's the other wild card. 167 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: If it's going to damage some of his support and 168 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: it looks like he has no chance to beat Biden 169 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: or who else runs, then are you really going to 170 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: go with a guy who's. 171 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Likely to lose? 172 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: That part? 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: I don't understand. It's like, do you want your side 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: to win. 175 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: Or it's Trump even if he loses by twenty points 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: in the general election. 177 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't get that. Well, here is everybody's bitching and 178 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: complain about how terrible Biden is. Well, yes, he's terrible. 179 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: Don't you want to beat him? 180 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Let's start with cut four, where the Fox News anchor 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: Brett bhar does ask that question. 182 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 5: You all signed a pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee. 183 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, 184 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: would you still support him as your party's choice. Please 185 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 5: raise your hand if you would. 186 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: It's like a Trump crowd. Yeah. 187 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: The only hand that didn't go up, I understand was 188 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: Asa Hutchinson. 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a dope otherwise, So they're afraid of 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: the crowd. These guys up there are afraid Trump. Outside 191 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: of that question was hardly mentioned at all. 192 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: They're between They're rocking a hard place because if they 193 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: go after Trump but and still managed to win the nomination, 194 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: some of those people may not show up there with 195 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: them next November, and he could they could lose to Biden. 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: Seeing where they're stuck here, Yeah, I know they're stuck. 197 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: So why are you running? You're forty points behind the 198 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: leader and you're afraid even to mention his name. Why? 199 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: Because the whooping Seals and what you do when you run, 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: you go after the guy who's number one polls. I've 201 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: never seen that. I've never seen eight freaking well candidates. 202 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: They would have to run Aswami last night. Yeah, a Swamy. 203 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: He's doing a little better in the polls than he was, 204 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: but honestly, he's never. 205 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: Been in politics. He's bare even voted, and everybody jumped 206 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: on his ass like he was the enemy. It's like 207 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: he's nothing. You know, he's an ego crazed businessman. Okay, 208 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: who's doing like a week Trump impression. I'm everybody jumping 209 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: on him. Trump is the big gorilla in the way. 210 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: I really don't. 211 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: Understand any of the camp I didn't understand most of 212 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: what I saw last night. 213 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm just shaking my head at it. 214 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: We'll play a little bit of the audio when we're 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: return of a couple of these clowns on stage at 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: the Republican debate last night in Milwaukee. Johnny Ken kf 217 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: I AM six forty Live everywhere iHeart Radio app. 218 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 219 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 220 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still collecting moistline calls. We hope to play 221 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: some tomorrow use the iHeartRadio app or the toll free 222 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six. We've been 223 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: talking about last night's first Republican presidential debate. This one 224 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: was held him a walking the next ones in September 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: at the Ronald Reagan Library and Seemi Valley, and of 226 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: course Trump announced days ago he's not participating in any 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: of these things because these people are in single digits, 228 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: and what's the point. And by the way, John, he 229 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: is the incumbent, right and usually you don't, you know, 230 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: you don't debate your opponents when you are the incumbent president. 231 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: So all right, yeah, well he's still president, so he's 232 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: still president. So he's the incomming now there there is 233 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: no there is no upside to him being there because 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: then he'll just be a target. They would we may be, 235 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: because that's what we've been saying, that he's well he 236 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: wasn't last night, and he is the front runner, which 237 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: is well. 238 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: That would be really cowardly if he's standing there on 239 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: stage and nobody takes them bond. I mean, I have 240 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: a hard time having respect for people. 241 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: I guess to Samta has put in one shot where 242 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: he said I would have fired Fauci right away. 243 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: Trump didn't do that. Yeah, you know, I Fatcie is 244 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: a really old story. We like it for something. 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I really this is about twenty twenty five. Is everybody 246 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: going to reltigate twenty twenty whether it's the stupid election 247 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: or the stupid COVID lockdown? 248 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: We know what happened. We all know what was wrong 249 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: about the COVID lockdown. We all know what happened with 250 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: the election, all right. 251 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Trump didn't get enough votes and his ego couldn't handle it, 252 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: so he's been out a gehot for two years. 253 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: Crafty Trump did his own little Tucker Carlson interview which 254 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: was dropped just before the Republican debate to get the 255 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: attention there. Do you see though? 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: He sent Donald Trump Junior there and what's her name? 257 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: Kimberly Gilfoyle, but they couldn't get into the media room 258 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: or something else. 259 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: Well, Fox's pissed at Trump. They had several meetings with 260 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: Trump and his staff to try to convince him to 261 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: come because that's the mother load rating, that's the viewers. 262 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: Do we know what the ratings were for last night? 263 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything yet, Okay, but. 264 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: See I'm sure they wouldn't compare it to when Trump 265 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: was involved in debates. 266 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Well, the Tucker Carlson interview has two hundred million views. Oh, 267 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: I heard one hundred and fifty millions. Up to two 268 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: hundred million. 269 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Last I saw it was two fifteen when I 270 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: was doing the audience fifteen million views. 271 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: That means a lot of people that hate Trump were 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 2: looking at it too. I think it would have to 273 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: be around the world. 274 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably be around the world. Uh. 275 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: For what we understand, Mike Pence was trying very hard 276 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: last night, and of course there was some who went 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: after uh Vyvek Ramaswami, who's rising in the polls. 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: Let's go to the clip number two here where it 279 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: is Vivek against Pence. 280 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 6: I just want to spun to Mike for one second 281 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 6: because he invoked me back. 282 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: Now that everybody's gotten their memorized, pre. 283 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: Prepared slogans out of the way, we can actually have 284 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 6: a real discussion now. 285 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: The reality and the fact. 286 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 6: Of the matter was one of yours, not really, Mike. Actually, 287 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 6: we're just gonna have some fun tonight, and the reality 288 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 6: is you have a bunch of people, professional politicians, super 289 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 6: pac puppets, following slogans handed over to them by their 290 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 6: four hundred page super packs last week. The real choice 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 6: we face in this primary is this, Do you want 292 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 6: a super pac puppet or do you want a patriot 293 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 6: who speaks the truth. Do you want incremental reform, which 294 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 6: is what you're hearing about, or do. 295 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: You want revolution? Okay, and I stand on. 296 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: The side of the American revolution to take control back here. 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: He's got the most energy and he also he's kind 298 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: of the alternate Trump. He yes, does have this way 299 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: of saying the things that Trump might say. 300 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: He's mimicking Trump's style definitely. 301 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: And he talks a lot off the top of his head. 302 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: With the rest of them, were a lot of talking, 303 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: and he talked in very short, clear sentences. He says 304 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: climate change is a hoax because capitalism is the only 305 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: way to lift people out of poverty. He goes, the 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: society has to burn fossil fuels. He just he stated, 307 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: and they're all it's all truth, and it doesn't get 308 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: bogged down in all the trendy I'm afraid to offend. 309 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: You know, maybe there's some truth to you know, the 310 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: whole climate change thing is a disaster for us. Economically, 311 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: it's a disaster for us competitively, and nobody wants to 312 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: say that out loud. They'll finally start saying it out 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: loud when it causes real serious damage to our lifestyles, right, 314 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: and it's on our way. 315 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: So I appreciate he's doing that because everybody else is 316 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: so mealy mouthed. But you know, he also has this 317 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: this slick energy of one of these annoying uh uh, 318 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: what do you know, those those guru guys, right, those 319 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: inspirational speakers. 320 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, you're right, you know, everything's almost too perfect. 321 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I found myself vacillating while listening to him, saying, yeah, 322 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: that's good, Yeah, that's good. But you can't just have 323 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of like short slogans to be convincing as 324 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: a president. Because when he started talking about foreign policy stuff, 325 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: it's clear he didn't know what he was talking about. 326 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: You know that he just you know, hadn't real. 327 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: Chris Christy called him a chatbot or something like that. 328 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I know there's something refreshing about at him and something 329 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: fake about him at the same time. 330 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: The only clip I heard on climate change I thought 331 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: was good. I think it was NICKI Haley who said 332 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: we got to get Indian China to do something. 333 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: We're wasting the time that She's absolutely right. 334 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: We're wasting our time with all these stupid climate regulations 335 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: and taxes and everything, because from less Russia and US, 336 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: China and India are told to do the same, if 337 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: not more. 338 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: China is putting out more stuff into the atmosphere than 339 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: we are, and they're they're building cold plants. I think 340 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: one of one of the candidates said, we're we're we're 341 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: sending all these all these green energy companies right are 342 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: having their materials made in China, whether it's solar panels 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: or its electric car batteries, and those factories are being 344 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: powered by cold plants. So everybody in this stupid country 345 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: who's caught up in all the trendy progressivism, you know, 346 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: climate change is really the challenge of our generation, You 347 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: stupid bunch of dumb clocks. 348 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: You have these factories built in China, expanding the Chinese economy, 349 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: powered by coal fired plants, so you could feel better 350 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 3: that you have a solar panel on your growth and 351 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: you're doing something about a climate change. You're just a dope. 352 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how to say this you're stupid, all right, We. 353 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: Got more coming up Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty 354 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: live everywhere I heard radio app. 355 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 356 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 357 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and coming up at three o'clock or thereabouts. We're 358 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: expecting a news conference out of Orange County. This, of course, 359 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: is the big story locally, the shooting at a biker 360 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: bar in Orange County that took the lives of four people, 361 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: including the shooter, who it turns out, is a former 362 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: City of Ventura police officer. You got to the rank 363 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: of sergeant in that police department, and he's retired. But apparently, 364 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: from what we understand, he didn't like the fact that 365 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: looked like his wife was moving on from their marriage 366 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: as they were in the throes of divorce, and he 367 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: decided to seek her out at a place I think she 368 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: used to frequent, this biker bar in Orange County, and 369 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: he was quickly confronted by police and killed. But before 370 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: he was able to do that, he killed three people. 371 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: Not the wife. 372 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: She apparently was shot and wounded but not dead. He 373 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: did wound a number of other people. So well, here 374 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: if there's any new developments when that news conference begins 375 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: at three or thereabouts. As you know, these things go 376 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: here on the John and Ken show. 377 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: Well, it was. 378 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: The back on June twenty third and June twenty fourth. 379 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: One of the big world stories was is this the 380 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: end of Putin. There's a group called the Wagner Group, 381 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 2: which apparently is a mercenary outfit that was started by 382 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Theefkenny Progosian, and they 383 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: do a lot of fighting for Russia in many places. 384 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: It was kind of Putin's back door way of making 385 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: it look like he wasn't using his own military. Instead 386 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: he had these Wagner Group guys go in there and 387 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: carry out his mission, like in Chechen places like that. 388 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: These guys are mostly criminals, yes, the criminals who can't work, 389 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: but they're ruthless. 390 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they've already killed plenty of people. That's 391 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: how they ended up in prison, so now they're professional murderers. 392 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: News came down at the end of June that this 393 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: guy Progosion was on his way with a bunch of 394 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: his soldiers to Moscow, and the world was thinking, oh. 395 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: Oh, there's going to be a revolution. They're gonna overthrow Putin. 396 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they stopped before they got there, and they gave up, 397 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: and then Progosian was supposedly sent off to another country, 398 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: and we all figured, well, the limited number of days 399 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: for him. Now it came about yesterday. Apparently he got 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: into a plane in Moscow for a short trip, ten 401 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: people on board, and that that plane went down and 402 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: the rescuers have found ten bodies. No confirmation yet the 403 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: Progosion is dead, but it's assumed that he's one of 404 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: the ten people. And as soon as everybody saw the headline, 405 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: did we all say the same thing, Oh, Putin got 406 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: another one. 407 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: Of course, another dissenter is dead, and he didn't mind 408 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: taking out nine other people with him. 409 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: No, Well, you know, it's a good opportunity. The first 410 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: reports were that it was his surface to air missile, 411 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: but now we're hearing probably not. I saw an interesting 412 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: story or two of them that it was probably an 413 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: explosion on board. Somebody may have planted some type of 414 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: bomb on the aircraft and disguised it somewhere on the 415 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: aircraft Newsweak had a story that it could be one 416 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: of Progosian's personal pilots who may have, you know, conspired 417 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: against him. To plant the bomb in the plane because 418 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: he could get access. 419 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: You see, right, Presumably he wasn't flying the plane though, No, 420 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: I guess not, not in this to be kind stupid. 421 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: No, he was probably like, oh, yeah, I'm going to 422 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: skip this trip, but let me just go on the 423 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: plane and make sure everything's in order for you. 424 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: And he's carrying a little bomb under his arm. Well, 425 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we don't know. I didn't understand. If 426 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: you're going to try to pull a coup, you got 427 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: to go through with it. You can't go halfway there 428 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and then stop and turn around because now you're dead. 429 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we're going to die trying to storm the Kremlin, 430 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: but now you're gonna die anyway. 431 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: So what was the point of the whole thing? 432 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, there were He later, in some statements, said 433 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: that he wasn't there to overthrow Putin. He was angry 434 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: with the military leaders and he wanted to make that clear. 435 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: He wanted them knocked out of their positions. It wasn't 436 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: about dethroning Putin. That's what you're saying. 437 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: You have to call in advance and explain yourself because 438 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it looked like a coup when you march with a 439 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: big army behind you that looks like you're trying to 440 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: take over. It's going to be misunderstood. These people are 441 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: How nuts are all these people we talk about this? 442 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: This has all become normalized because I guess this is 443 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: like you were talking before about your trip to Europe. 444 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: You know, Europe's history is nothing but violence and it 445 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: continues today. 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: But a conquest, yes, but for most of us, how 447 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: insane is this? This guy has his own mercenary army 448 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and he's going to take on Vladimir Putin and the 449 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: Russian army. 450 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: All right, I think most of the Russian army that 451 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: was in Ukraine. 452 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he saw an opportunity to get to Moscow and 453 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: take whatever's left of the military. They're in that city, right, 454 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: They're all business. 455 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: None of these guys. Everyone had a little picnic at 456 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: the lake, No, John. Some men are driven. They want 457 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: to take over the. 458 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: Control, kill other people, take as much land as they can. 459 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different form of control, a violent form 460 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: of control. I mean you always complain about like the 461 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: medical people, I take control of us during that. 462 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: It is COVID outbreak is the fight of human nature. 463 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: There's always people wanting to control you in one way 464 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: or another, and the rest of us have to fight 465 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: them off, whether it's people invading or it's Barbara Ferrer 466 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: trying to lock us inside our homes, always somebody telling 467 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: us what to do. 468 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: So today Putin made some comments about Pagosian, saying that 469 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: he's known him since the ninth teen nineties. He's done 470 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: some good things, but he's also made some serious mistakes 471 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: in his life. 472 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Hin, hint, that's why you can blow up. 473 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: He achieved the results he needed, both for himself and 474 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: when I asked him about it, for the common cause, 475 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: as in these last months. A talented man, a talented businessman. 476 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: Talent but now. 477 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Putin didn't go the poison route this time, though. He 478 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: went for something more dramatic. 479 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: Right, It's just came statement to anybody else who has us, 480 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: you have any thoughts of overthrowing me? That's right, don't 481 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: get on any planes. 482 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: Anyone got anything else to say. 483 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: I know it's all so obvious too, but I like 484 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: the way everyone just plays the part. Oh all right, 485 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: I Putin expressed his sincere sorrow. Ye Pregos died, but right, 486 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: he just wanted to make it clear that he's made 487 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: some mistakes in his life. 488 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: All right again, I will have that news conference out 489 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: of Orange County. It may started three or a little 490 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: bit after about the shooting at the biker bar Johnny 491 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: Ken caf I Am six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 492 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 493 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: AM six. 494 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Forty on the radio one till four after four o'clock. 495 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: The app has the Johnny Kenn on demand podcast, so 496 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: you can listen to what you missed. 497 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a quick hit. We are all going to 498 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: do the Moistline tomorrow. We'll take your calls using the 499 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon, or you just use the 500 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: tulfree number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six and 501 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: whenever it begins three o'clock or thereabouts, a news conference 502 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: out of Orange County about the biker bar shooting yesterday 503 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: that took the lives of four people, including the shooter. 504 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna learn more about the identities of the 505 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: other people that passed away. He was there looking for 506 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: his strange soon to be divorced wife, and although she 507 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 2: was shot, she did not die. Okay, So we'll get 508 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: the whole update from officials in Orange County after the 509 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: news at three o'clock, Well, the els are going to 510 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: do times and a couple of stories on here's an oldie, 511 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: but goodie, the plastic bag band. The twenty four team 512 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: was when we first started passing all these bag laws. 513 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: Since then, they actually wrote this in their story, Californians 514 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: are actually generating more plastic bag waste per capita than 515 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: we were before the band existed. 516 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: That is one of my favorite lines I've ever read. 517 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: Some shoppers are bringing reusable bags from home to stores, 518 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: though not many, far fewer, or using the reusing the 519 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: hdb PE bags they buy it. The story of those 520 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: ten cents bags, well, instead of it, they become de 521 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: fact those single use bags. That's kind of what happens 522 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: with mine, I think. 523 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Well, of course, because it's because normal people bring a 524 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: bag home and maybe they keep a few around the house, 525 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, for whatever. 526 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: But other than that, they're thrown out. So this is 527 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: thicker plastic being thrown out rather than thinner plastic. And 528 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: they had in this story which I remember from when 529 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: they imposed this bag ban and then the replacement thicker bags, 530 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: that it was all a scam. The store charges you 531 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: ten cents a bag, and they keep half that they 532 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: keep five cents. So every bag now is a source 533 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: of profit, which is why the grocery chains went along 534 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: with this stupid law. So now you have more bags 535 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: than ever floating around in the environment. Then the grocery 536 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: stores are making a nickel for every bag. Nothing, nothing's improved, 537 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: nothing's changed. 538 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: The story says that the consumers don't care anymore about 539 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: the ten cent fee, so they think they should raise 540 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: it to twenty five cents or higher for you to 541 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: get the reasonable bag, because they think that way you 542 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: might reuse it since you paid more for it. 543 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: No one's going to care if it's a quarter either, 544 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: No one's going to care if it's a no, they're 545 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: not going to care. 546 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: Ten bucks a bag, huh, all right, try ten bucks 547 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: a bag. 548 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: But you know, the only kind of people that I 549 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: see using real recyclable bags are like, you know, the 550 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: real the real thick bags that you pay like the 551 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: three or four bucks for, Oh you mean like the 552 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: cloth ones or the cloth ones or it's like some 553 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: kind of a thick plastic. Now, everybody who uses those 554 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: and some people have like ten of those, are not 555 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I see them. 556 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: It's like, that's somebody I don't want to know. 557 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 7: Wait a second, I have a bunch of them, and 558 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 7: some of them I got for free, so I just 559 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 7: stick them in my trunk and I use it. 560 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: But you're vegan, you do you take them to the market. 561 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: Use John's right. 562 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: I see fewer people doing that now, and. 563 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: The ones you see, it's like I want to just 564 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: by looking at their face, I don't want to know them. 565 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm insulted. They look annoying. 566 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: The follow up story by this reporter Jessica Roy, she 567 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: actually stood outside of stores to see what people were 568 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: bringing out with bags or no bags. She said, actually 569 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: most people had no bag at all because they were 570 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: buying like one or two items, so they just didn't 571 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: have a bag. 572 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: But she saw very few of the recyclable bag. Because 573 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: they're trying to change human nature and human behavior, and 574 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: you can't do it. These progressives constantly want to rewatrus 575 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: to and that's just not possible. People are going to 576 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: do what they do for convenience sake, and you could 577 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: charge them a dime, but a dime isn't worth anything anymore. 578 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: No, So the theory is you go to the store 579 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 2: and you get one of those dime recyclable bags. You're 580 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: supposed to bring that bag back next time and use 581 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: it to shop. Is that what they want you to do? 582 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 583 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: Or you're supposed to use it at home for all 584 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: sorts of other I don't know needs. 585 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Ideally, you bring it, you use the same bags for 586 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: your grocery shopping every time. This was a social engineering 587 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: process to change our behavior, and it didn't work. And 588 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: I think these thicker bags just seem like they would 589 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: be laying in the landfill a lot longer than the 590 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: thinner bags. 591 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: They say that in twenty twenty one, Californians discarded two 592 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one thousand, seventy two tons of plastic bags. 593 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: Our twenty twenty one population was around thirty nine million. 594 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: That's eleven pounds of eleven pounds a bag per person. 595 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: One of the guys in the story called it dispiriting. 596 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: Spiriting. Oh, people didn't change their behavior because we said so, Oh, 597 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: I am sad. 598 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Now, why don't you change your behavior because I told 599 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: you to? 600 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: Don't you know that I'm in charge and you have 601 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: to live life the way I say you should live. 602 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: You don't know that that that that that reading that 603 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: story made me so happy. 604 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Today, most shoppers who who do get bags pay for 605 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: the reusable one. They're called HDPE bags, those thick plastic ones. 606 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: That's what most people are doing. Very few people these 607 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: days are bringing in their own bag, although I think 608 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: it is a Trader Joe's. They ring the bell when 609 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: you have the little Trader Joe bag you brought with you, 610 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: they I think they did. 611 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh I'm not going there. Then if you yourself checkout, 612 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: you never have to pay for a bag ever again, well, 613 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: because then you're stealing. 614 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh stop it, Deborah, Oh yeah, does pop up on 615 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: the screen, Eric, how many bags do you want? 616 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Hit zero? And then I asked the guy for 617 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: some bags. 618 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, somebody's on a tight budget. 619 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: That's all right, Yeah, I am Prop forty seven protects you. 620 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 621 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: That theft is below nine fifties, so you're fine. 622 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: John's right. 623 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: Stores buy bags for about five cents each and seldom 624 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: for at least double that, pocketing the profits. Right, He's right, 625 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: there's what he said, y yeah, which is why they 626 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: went along with it. 627 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: And the thing is, remember those stories early on that 628 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: if you use the reusable bags, you just end up 629 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: with all kinds of bacteria at the bottom of the bag. 630 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 7: Debas well, you know, what can I say, I'll clean 631 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 7: my bags now? 632 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're the one that's kind of a 633 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: fobe when it comes to terms. 634 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: I am, but I also why do I need to 635 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 7: go in and buy bags? I mean, I know they're 636 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 7: only ten cents, But if I have all these freebies 637 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 7: in my car, I just reuse them and then and then. 638 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: Full of all your vegetable germs. 639 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 7: My vegetables are put in plastic bags. So it's the 640 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: plastic that's touching the plastic. 641 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh so then you you've defeated the purpose there by 642 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: getting a plastic bag. 643 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, all that thin plastic that you get in the 644 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: broduce department, Yeah, well that's not helping. 645 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: Okay, well where am I? 646 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 7: How am I going to put my produce? 647 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: Where am I going to put it? That you were 648 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: all so proud of yourself. 649 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 7: No, I'm not saying I'm necessarily I'm not necessarily doing 650 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 7: it for you twice. 651 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: As much plastic waste as the rest of us. 652 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, you know, and I think about this most 653 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: days because the El Segundo times which I still get 654 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: delivered to the house, comes in a plastic bag. That's 655 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: right there you go. And I don't know whether the 656 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: delivery guy does that or the paper does that, but 657 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking at like it's a very thin plastic bag, 658 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I thought they'd be against this. 659 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: They're just did I just throw it right in the 660 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: trash or in the street any way? Are we late? 661 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 662 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: No, we're gonna I'm sorry, I lost track of time. 663 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: Uh what what's the why people get upset by the 664 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: idea of landfills. I don't understand. The landfills are all 665 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: way out in the desert right what They're like one 666 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: hundred miles away from here. 667 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Because of the trash doesn't degrade that, it's just becomes awful, 668 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: unusable land. 669 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: But do you know how much empty land there is 670 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: out there? 671 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: I know, I just spent the land up with five 672 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: hundred million people in the country one day. 673 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: Span on five days. At Wyoming, you can drive hours 674 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: and hours and not see any living thing. And I'm thinking, 675 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: why don't they put the prisons and the homeless and 676 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: all the landfills out here? No, but it wouldn't make 677 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: a difference. I think the. 678 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: Wyoming people be happy if we suddenly put all our 679 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: trash there and put them. 680 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: In the thing, we paid them for it. Even if they. 681 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: Don't have a lot of folks there, they'd be mad 682 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: taking the land. Those have paid them billions, all right. 683 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're expecting a news conference out of 684 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: Orange County about the shooting at the biker bar, which 685 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: apparently was done by an ex cop who was on. 686 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: The Ventura Police Department Force. 687 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken CAFI AIM six forty Live Everywhere, iHeartRadio app and. 688 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: Deborah Mark Live in the twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. 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