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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha and Mo to stuff

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Speaker 1: I'll Never Told You production off iHeart Radio. And today

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Speaker 1: it is November one, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Here in the US.

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Speaker 1: We are bearing down on election Day, which is November fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So we're doing an episode on election

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Speaker 1: anxiety that is very similar to our pass Upside we

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Speaker 1: did on election stress disorder, so you want to check

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Speaker 1: that out.

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Speaker 2: But this is coming out the day before the election.

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Speaker 1: I'm so content warning, I get it if you don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about it. I have realized that Samantha

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Speaker 1: saw in action. I don't like being sprung upon questions

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Speaker 1: about the election.

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Speaker 3: Because I think I just asked what I was going

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Speaker 3: to do planning to do, and Stu I was like, Oh.

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Speaker 2: It's like bad, it's really bad.

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Speaker 3: It's not funny. It was funny now, but I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I was just asking what you're doing that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about a little at the end,

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Speaker 1: but it's not good also, but it's not the first

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Speaker 1: time it happened. But my friend Marissa, who's been on

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Speaker 1: the show good friend of the show, she brought up

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Speaker 1: something with the election while we were on vacation, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, we're not talking about it. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I will leave the room. That's not happening. Fair enough, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I am not alone. So every year the American

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Speaker 1: Psychological Association are the APA, conducts and reports on a

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Speaker 1: survey of the stressors in the United States, and this

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Speaker 1: year there were the usual suspects family, money, job, but

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Speaker 1: one thing was looming abroad of them, and it was

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four US presidential election. In general, of

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Speaker 1: those surveyed, seven out of ten reported politics in the

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Speaker 1: election being a significant source of stress. This finding was

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Speaker 1: statistically significant across all parties, from seventy to eighty percent

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Speaker 1: of respondents, depending on the party. Many reported worries of

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Speaker 1: violence after the election no matter the outcome. Fifty six

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Speaker 1: percent believe the election could be the end of democracy

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Speaker 1: in the country. There have also already been sorts of violence,

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Speaker 1: so it makes sense people.

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Speaker 1: The study also found about half of the three thousand

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Speaker 1: respondents didn't trust the system of checks and balances, About

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Speaker 1: forty percent have considered moving to a different country. About

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Speaker 1: forty five percent have said they would not date someone

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Speaker 1: with opposing political beliefs.

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Speaker 3: Just forty five percent. Yeah, that's surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well who knows, like who is actually interested in dating.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they specifically phrased that question, but

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Speaker 1: or maybe they were there open to the idea, but

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Speaker 1: probably won't. I think there's a lot of ways that

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Speaker 1: could play out. And on whopping, eighty two percent were

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Speaker 1: worried that people were basing their decisions and values on

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Speaker 1: misinformation or disinformation. So you can see our past episodes,

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Speaker 1: many of them we've done with bridget for more information

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Speaker 1: about that. Uh and yes, several experts said that social

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Speaker 1: media is exacerbating all of this and we are inundated

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Speaker 1: with text and emails and ads. It's worse in Swing states.

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot of YouTube, and I am I've

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen any ads outside of TikTok, so like

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Speaker 3: I can easily swipe away from them. I have seen

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Speaker 3: for election information. That's what which is really interesting to me,

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Speaker 3: of Missufre, you mentioned disinformation that Facebook is being sued.

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Speaker 3: I think because they had gotten millions of dollars from

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Speaker 3: misinformation ads from political campaigns and they have used them

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Speaker 3: and everybody's like, okay.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this before, were worried about this, but

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's stressing people out, and yes, it is

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, bro, I laughed out loud.

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Speaker 3: I read this. Yeah, sure, because no matter what, nothing

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Speaker 3: Like it's interesting and to that level, like they don't have.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was thinking about it because I was

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Speaker 3: I was a George Bush, George w That was my election.

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Speaker 3: I apologize all.

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Speaker 1: We've also mentioned there have been reports of women not

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Speaker 1: He also went on to say that we can really

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Speaker 1: here's how you make your employees more productive during this

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Speaker 1: time and then future planning. Many Americans are putting off

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Speaker 1: According to a recent poll by the travel site Vacationer,

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Speaker 1: Some have also just reported being unable to travel with

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Speaker 3: I'm going back and forth because my family's doing a

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Speaker 3: At first, I thought they were just like Republican supporters

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Speaker 3: also stop coming home. I will protect my piece anyway.

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Speaker 3: That means will staying away from y'all. And I think

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it now, but it's

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