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Speaker 1: Nice. Hell No, Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ram Shooter and it's Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Lupo with a very dapper new haircut.

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Speaker 1: I think he's joining us. Hey, Mark, you look cute.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I know you got a different style this week.

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Speaker 2: Tried something. Yeah, it's kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's nice. How would you describe this it's a

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Speaker 1: different look.

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Speaker 2: Well, they told me it's like a like a choppy

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Speaker 2: texture look. It's kind of similar to what I have,

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Speaker 2: but just a bit like messy, a.

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Speaker 1: Bit messy, bit Meg Ryan ish, Like remember with Meg

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Speaker 1: Ryan had all that messy hair light exactly, it's very

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Speaker 1: Meg Ryan. You look lovely. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends, it's tea time. Big story.

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Speaker 1: At the top of the show, Mega Markle is struggling

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Speaker 1: to find a CEO for her American Viviera Orchard brand.

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Speaker 1: While a long title, isn't it I think goop is better.

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Speaker 1: Like that's short, you can just spit it out and goop.

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Speaker 1: I know what that is? This American Riviera Orchard. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if America has a Riviera, doesn't France have

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Speaker 1: a riviera, and maybe it's because she has some apple

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Speaker 1: trees that's the orchard. Well, in any case, Meghan's having

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Speaker 1: a difficult time finding somebody to be the CEO. Page

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Speaker 1: six were reporting that the numbers don't lie about this one.

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Speaker 1: And to have almost twenty staff members quit on Megan

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of months, that is a real sign.

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Speaker 1: It's unprecedented even for a startup. I'm not sure I

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Speaker 1: totally agree if that startups are really difficult. You're figuring

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Speaker 1: out exactly what the brand is, what you need people

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Speaker 1: to do, and so people do leave startups. Now, it

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Speaker 1: is being implied here that Megan can't find somebody because

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Speaker 1: she is difficult. However, I hit the phones and my

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Speaker 1: sources said, no, it's not just that she's a that

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Speaker 1: she's a very demanding boss, but she wants to find

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Speaker 1: the right person. I think if you jump into these

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Speaker 1: business relationships too quickly and you don't find the right person,

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Speaker 1: you end up finding the wrong person, and that can

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Speaker 1: be potentially worse than having nobody. Remember, back in April,

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Speaker 1: Mark she sent out her jams so Strawberry Jams to

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Speaker 1: celebrities exclusive group of celebrities, and then they promised they

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Speaker 1: would start rolling out the products for the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: She promised a dog biscuit, a wine. We've seen nothing marked,

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Speaker 1: nothing is coming out yet, and so it makes me

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Speaker 1: a little bit nervous that maybe Megan was premature here.

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Speaker 1: She shouldn't have sent that stuff out to influencers and

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Speaker 1: stuff until you're ready to go. They say that all

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Speaker 1: the time in pr don't do press until someone can

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Speaker 1: buy it, until you can buy a pre order, or

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Speaker 1: you can get it on the shelves, or you can

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Speaker 1: go to the go to the cinema and see the film.

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Speaker 1: Don't do too much pre press because if you do

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Speaker 1: all this press for your movie, your products, and it

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Speaker 1: So I think Meghan was probably a little premature here.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she was really eager because she's very proud

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Speaker 1: I hope she finds the right person. Mark, what do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think we've talked about this before

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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of pressure for Meghan. This is

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Speaker 2: she's been through a lot of people have called her grifter,

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Speaker 2: you know, her and her husband grifter, And now she's

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Speaker 2: launching this brand that I still don't exactly know what

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Speaker 2: trying to do here? We've been talking about it what

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Speaker 2: like to live up the hype of this, well, can

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Speaker 2: you can you deliver on this? And I think that's

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Speaker 2: the pressure, right is you know, releasing these items and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've totally hit the nail on the head. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to send her the full word answer, Meghan, who

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Speaker 1: Is it luxury? I don't know what this brand is.

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Speaker 1: I'd just call it Dutchess when it'd be all luxury,

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Speaker 1: not sure who Meghan is. I think she likes sings

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Speaker 1: don't want to take any advice you bet the CEO.

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Speaker 1: Don't hire someone Meghan, do it yourself. I have so

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Speaker 1: much respect for people who do that. You can't hire

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Speaker 1: I've done that, Mark, I've worked with people who, gosh

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Speaker 2: think that's kind of why you're seeing this. It'd be

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Speaker 2: to run a business. It's quite hard. I think people

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Speaker 1: It's really hard. Yeah, it's really hard. Look how posh

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Speaker 1: Spy struggled with her fashion collection, which is brilliantly talented

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Speaker 1: it's just all such nonsense, so insider told me, and

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Speaker 1: this just never happens, if Meghan's products. To actually get

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Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure if Megan knows that yet,

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Speaker 1: but she's about to find out, which brings us to

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Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. Meghan Markle is struggling

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Speaker 1: to find a CEO for her new brand, the American

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Speaker 1: Riviera Orchard. Awkward name. Do you like it? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Our question is do you think this is ever going

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey, LOOPI, where are you working on?

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry is returning to New York City in September

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Speaker 2: and he's going to receive extra security after that catastrophic

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Speaker 2: So Prince Harry is said to return to New York

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Speaker 2: High Level Week and Climate Week. However, Prince Harry's upcoming

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Speaker 2: trip will be a solo adventure, as his wife Meghan

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Speaker 2: the quote unquote catastrophic card chase incident that incurred in

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Speaker 1: What do you think it's good? Don't mess this up.

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Speaker 1: Let this be about the work. Like last time he

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Speaker 1: was here, they called it a catastrophic car chase. There

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Speaker 1: was no catastrophic car chase. New York is covered with cameras.

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Speaker 1: to set this up. When Jennifer Aniston's in New York,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to be over there, they have underground tunnels.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't, don't let the drama of who you are

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Speaker 1: get in the way of the work. Because Harry is

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Speaker 1: here to do some really serious stuff, really important stuff,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm rooting for him. But if anyone can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's so true. We've dealt with celebrities

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Speaker 2: in New York City for many years. We know how

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Speaker 2: I think adding to that, generally speaking, New Yorkers just

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Speaker 2: don't care. Like we're all busy. They're not winning around

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Speaker 2: for you. There's a few paparati all wait out to

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Speaker 2: the stage store. But generally speaking, if you just mind

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Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I was chased in the city.

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Speaker 2: I wish by taxi moved that quickly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It's just not it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Happen. It's not happening. Honestly, We'll just put a baseball

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Speaker 1: cap hard and jump on the subway. I know it

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Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous, but we see Sarah Jessica on the subway

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Speaker 1: all the time. Nobody cares. I saw her on the

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Speaker 1: subway a few months ago, Nobody cared. And Cohen's on

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Lupo. Hey Lupi, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the polls. Thank you, darling. Last show, we talked about

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know will they keep doing this?

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Speaker 1: They just clearly don't fit. They don't everybody knows your

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Speaker 1: I love Madonna, but we would be incompatible, would fight

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Speaker 2: That's so hard to say. I love Beyonce, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And now, I love this guy. He's one of my crushes.

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Speaker 2: He's the best and deserves are the happiness in the world.

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Speaker 1: People have said to me, oh, what do you think

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Speaker 1: So that's why we get along. My friend, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: Let's end with a moment a rob. You're gonna Rob,

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Speaker 1: You gotta Robi you Rob. I love this quote from

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Speaker 1: Every single day. You can be happy if you make

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Speaker 1: much for listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob

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