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Speaker 1: I have been on a whirlwind tour with the goat
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Speaker 1: He has me not performing in comedy clubs or not
Speaker 1: performing in stadiums. But he has me performing in arenas
Speaker 1: in front of twenty thousand people.
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Speaker 1: here at the Laugh and Learn on our third season
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Speaker 1: Network once again three years in, and I want to
Speaker 1: introduce you guys to my lovely co hosts this season,
Speaker 1: Miss Icon, the one and Only Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 3: Hello Tuts, Hello Tuts. How are you You're looking good?
Speaker 3: I've been following your social media stoff your gorgeous and
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Speaker 1: Well Bobbie like like we always say, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: argue with you, and you're right, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know how you do the arena. I would I
Speaker 3: would literally drop dad.
Speaker 1: It really is the learning process Bobby, and it has
Speaker 1: taken me a couple of shows to actually get the feedback,
Speaker 1: the timing, the the wave of laughter, because it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like it's delayed, so you have the patience differently.
Speaker 1: And so it's the process to learn. And I would
Speaker 1: have never known that you have to experience it to
Speaker 1: learn it. So it's been great and Dave has been
Speaker 1: just the greatest teacher ever. But hello, Bobby Clifford, let's
Speaker 1: let's get it. Let's Dave into laugh and learn what
Speaker 1: we got happened in this part of America.
Speaker 3: This well, let's start off with something stupid or somebody
Speaker 3: that is stupid. Lauren Bolbert, I.
Speaker 1: Wish I would have been in that, in that in
Speaker 1: that studio we're watching it, get up.
Speaker 3: Freaking imagine and the Family Value woman who is you know,
Speaker 3: banging the drum for that is in the Mule Theater
Speaker 3: in Denver watching Beetlejuice ps a family friendly play, getting
Speaker 3: felt up and vaping, and she tells the woman behind
Speaker 3: her who was pregnant, quite pregnant, and asked her not
Speaker 3: to vape because it was getting in her face, that
Speaker 3: she was a miserable human being. Can you imagine it
Speaker 3: just when she's asked to leave. She did leave without incident.
Speaker 3: Appeared like that because because ps we have the we
Speaker 3: have the video flame. You know, she's denying that any
Speaker 3: of this ever happened. And then the theater came out
Speaker 3: with the video. But she gives, She gives the whole
Speaker 3: theater on her way out the bird and I thought,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what kind of family value is that?
Speaker 3: And it makes me ask you, which I'm going to
Speaker 3: ask you, when did it become okay to lie until
Speaker 3: someone has receipts or the proof.
Speaker 5: You know, she was going to go down to the
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: It became okay to like right in our faces and
Speaker 1: get away with it because guess who was the president
Speaker 1: hid me and give me very clearly baby. And you
Speaker 1: know why she felt like it was okay to lie,
Speaker 1: because if we're being led by example, the example that
Speaker 1: we see light in our face. Still to this day
Speaker 1: with ninety one federal charges, it's still right there and
Speaker 1: still the forerun in the forefront to become the leader
Speaker 1: of these United States. That is why they make it okay,
Speaker 1: because they have said that it's okay if he can
Speaker 1: get away with it. She felt like everybody else can
Speaker 1: get away with it. I know she's wrong, but I
Speaker 1: understand how she feels. If it's good for the goose,
Speaker 1: then it's good for the gander. We have allowed these
Speaker 1: big wigs. I ain't gonna say no names of people
Speaker 1: who are in charge of running things to get away
Speaker 1: with everything. So why would we think that that's the
Speaker 1: same way with the immigrants coming over here? The American
Speaker 1: dream was a white pick of fence in the house.
Speaker 1: But y'all showing them that you can make up a
Speaker 1: fictitious resume and get a seat on the State Senate
Speaker 1: and still be sitting there. It is what you see,
Speaker 1: it is what you are, and what we are allowing
Speaker 1: for people to get away with. We allow this, We
Speaker 1: allow this as American.
Speaker 3: It's really disappointing. Well, she didn't have vet him very
Speaker 3: well because he turns out he's a Democrat who owns
Speaker 3: a bar that is gay and trans friendly.
Speaker 5: So she said, talk about talk about karma.
Speaker 3: Yeah to all future dates where she had a very
Speaker 3: lovely time and we all saw her have it. She uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's yeah, she's not going out with him anymore. But
Speaker 3: I'm just disappointed if somebody calls you on something there
Speaker 3: used to be and I feel so old when I say,
Speaker 3: back in my day, you'd be embarrassed, you know, the
Speaker 3: fact that somebody would say that to you, you would
Speaker 3: turn green and apologize. Now she has apologized. She said
Speaker 3: she's going through a very public divorce, and you know
Speaker 3: she wanted to blow up some steam and she I'd
Speaker 3: love to know what was.
Speaker 1: Okay, go get a room, Yeah, get jo freaking and
Speaker 1: nobody got the note. But you sitting here and you're
Speaker 1: the biggest advocate for family values, are you being a
Speaker 1: damn tramp up.
Speaker 5: In the public And I did it with children?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, And you're gonna be worried about a
Speaker 3: trans person reading at a library. She's not for that,
Speaker 3: but she's okay going to third base in front of
Speaker 3: little kids right in front of her. But what I got,
Speaker 3: I got what hypocrips hypocrisy. So I thought was funny
Speaker 3: to start off with on the on a more serious note,
Speaker 3: something that was good, but good viewed by a lot,
Speaker 3: not not everybody. We had five US citizens who were
Speaker 3: charged with spying in Iran and all have had served
Speaker 3: five years. Uh released. There was a six million excuse
Speaker 3: me six billion dollar oil payment that that the US
Speaker 3: was holding, and we gave them five people back, and
Speaker 3: we gave them their money back. I think it comes
Speaker 3: in increments because they are held by the US Treasury
Speaker 3: to use this money for humanitarian aid. But the people
Speaker 3: on the right aren't so happy. There are also people
Speaker 3: who have loved ones that are still there and they're
Speaker 3: not happy that everybody should come or nobody should come.
Speaker 5: And as we know, wait a minute, did you say
Speaker 5: billion with a B.
Speaker 3: Yes, B six billion oil and gas money, the oil and.
Speaker 1: Gas money with all the homeless and all the issues
Speaker 1: that we have.
Speaker 5: I'm just.
Speaker 3: Oh, we couldn't use it. It wasn't it was their money.
Speaker 3: We just didn't pay them like we held the We
Speaker 3: froze their money. So it wasn't like we could use
Speaker 3: it for our purpose. We should have used it for
Speaker 3: our purposes. But you know what, Aron has a ton
Speaker 3: of those issues too. It would be nice to see
Speaker 3: that somebody in the world was actually doing something for
Speaker 3: the indigen So let's see. You know, we'll probably have
Speaker 3: some big chic or somebody over there that will work.
Speaker 1: I'm very pleased that those people got out of out
Speaker 1: of those prisons.
Speaker 3: I am too.
Speaker 1: I watched that show Locked Up Abroad, and I see
Speaker 1: some of the situations prisons.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's deplorable.
Speaker 3: It's really awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, American prisons got their own issues, but those some
Speaker 1: of those third world country in prisons, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like living in a sewer.
Speaker 3: They had a There is a man that was from
Speaker 3: Iran that was here and I wish I got his name.
Speaker 3: I was watching Chris Cuomo catching up on the shows,
Speaker 3: and his daughter was all nervous. He went to Dubai
Speaker 3: for for work. The Iranians came over. He was very
Speaker 3: against the regime that's in there now. The Iranians, how
Speaker 3: they knew he was there, went in and kidnapped him,
Speaker 3: brought him to Iran. He's been in jail, I think
Speaker 3: for ten years. In his he doesn't have a sentence,
Speaker 3: he has an execution date. So she's terrified now that
Speaker 3: the fiver out that they'll go ahead and execute him.
Speaker 3: And he doesn't even have a passport with around any longer.
Speaker 3: But I felt and my heart bled for her. But
Speaker 3: sometimes you're not going to get everybody. It's so hard,
Speaker 3: so to get least some people, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: It's a sticky situation. I'm really happy. I think that
Speaker 3: this administration they must have worked for miracles to even
Speaker 3: get where they are. So is it perfect, No, but
Speaker 3: none of it is.
Speaker 1: We're great sague into thanking our president, our sitting president,
Speaker 1: President Joseph Biden.
Speaker 5: I thank you Biden.
Speaker 1: I know y'all got y'all issues with our president right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I have some with him as well,
Speaker 1: but right now I'm thanking him for that because he
Speaker 1: got Brittany Bonney came home under his watch.
Speaker 5: And now, so these are the five people, and y'all,
Speaker 5: y'all won't.
Speaker 1: Have a comment about it, but if you were stuck
Speaker 1: over there, you will want them to move heaven and
Speaker 1: earth to get you back to American soil.
Speaker 5: So we'll not get the hell off and do the best.
Speaker 3: And even under Britney Griner, do you remember, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: there was a there was a soldier that was over
Speaker 3: there was still in jail, our previous mester, and he
Speaker 3: said he's glad she got out because not everybody can
Speaker 3: get out, and we're in a mess over there. Also,
Speaker 3: by Trump, he abandoned a key Nukia deal and he
Speaker 3: left them even more angry. So the fact that that
Speaker 3: old sleepy Joe was able to get them out, I'm thrilled.
Speaker 5: Uh well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Talking about perfect segue because we want to talk about
Speaker 1: sleepy Joe. The same person that called him sleepy Joe
Speaker 1: gave a speech Saturday night and kept mistaken Sleepy Joe
Speaker 1: for President Obama. Now the names don't sound familiar at all,
Speaker 1: but the color of the.
Speaker 5: Skin, damn show ain't close to each other. So I
Speaker 5: want god, who was the sleepy one?
Speaker 1: Is it for Biden? Because Trump was all over the place.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had been in my lovelies
Speaker 1: Bobby and he hit the pot, maybe he had a
Speaker 1: shot or whatever the case would be. But Biden was
Speaker 1: as confusing as Trump. I mean, Trump was as confusing
Speaker 1: as he claims Biden to be.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. He first of all, he said, we're
Speaker 3: certain that we're going to be put into because under
Speaker 3: Biden's regime, he's doing such a crummy job. He's going
Speaker 3: to get us into World War two, right, which took
Speaker 3: place eighty years ago.
Speaker 1: And that his age, and he three years from being eighty.
Speaker 3: He is, he's seventy seven and a half so you know,
Speaker 3: he's only three years younger than than Biden, so we
Speaker 3: so like he thinks that three years is going to
Speaker 3: make this big, huge difference. I thought Kristen Welker did
Speaker 3: a remarkable job because she kept trying. It was like
Speaker 3: hurting cats. She kept trying to bring them back. Donald's
Speaker 3: bring him back. Yeah, he was all over the place.
Speaker 3: Nothing that we haven't we haven't heard. Blame me everybody
Speaker 3: for everything else.
Speaker 1: No policy, no policy, yeah, nothing, no resolutions, nothing but
Speaker 1: wine wine, wine, and you attacked me, attacked me. It's
Speaker 1: just he throw ponders and he is ridiculous. But he
Speaker 1: is I'm not going to say loved, but he is revered.
Speaker 3: He is something. It's sort of like a cult, you know,
Speaker 3: it really is. It's amazing, and some of these people
Speaker 3: are smart people. I feel like, maybe because my life
Speaker 3: is still boring that nobody has ever reached out to me.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's got the goods on everybody, Like
Speaker 3: he somehow is tapped into all of our houses and
Speaker 3: the people who are really following him, he's got something
Speaker 3: on them. I don't know. I know that's ridiculous to say.
Speaker 1: That's not ridiculous. Bout it because I've talked about that before. Yes,
Speaker 1: Biden is eighty years old, but Biden has spent fifty
Speaker 1: years in politics. Trump has never been a politician. But
Speaker 1: Trump was a businessman long before he threw his hat
Speaker 1: in the ring. So he did business on the Democratic
Speaker 1: and on the Republican side, which means and his dad,
Speaker 1: Donald John Trump was a beast, was a gangster. So
Speaker 1: he probably knows way many more secrets that he can
Speaker 1: cancel or get rid of or destroy somebody.
Speaker 5: And that's why they don't go after him.
Speaker 1: I strongly believe, because he has done business with both
Speaker 1: parties before he got into politics, that he knows where
Speaker 1: the bodies are being literally.
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean it has to be something. I just
Speaker 3: don't understand it. But I worry because I mean, I
Speaker 3: think we are your expression. The name of this show is.
Speaker 1: The Dirty Kitchen, and what happened was and I call
Speaker 1: it that because when Obama came into office, Obama came
Speaker 1: into a dirty kitchen. Bush left him a dirty kitchen.
Speaker 1: It takes two terms to clean the kitchen before you
Speaker 1: can do something. Obama left Obama left Donald Trump a
Speaker 1: very clean kitchen. In one term, Donald Trump destroyed everything
Speaker 1: in the kitchen I'm talking about broke the microwave, that's
Speaker 1: the refrigerator door handle.
Speaker 5: All the floors are nasty.
Speaker 1: So Biden has to clean up the kitchen long before
Speaker 1: he can get to the stove to cook. Because all
Speaker 1: Americans as American people, I don't care what nasty, nasty,
Speaker 1: you're racist, size or color, whatever you will have you identify.
Speaker 1: Nobody cooks in a dirty kitchen unless you're nasty. Nobody
Speaker 1: cooks in a dirty kitchen. So he has takes two
Speaker 1: terms to do that. And Biden is still repairing broken
Speaker 1: allies that Trump broke off.
Speaker 5: With us that we had in our pocket for years
Speaker 5: because he.
Speaker 1: Was over there talking crazy with them folks, so they
Speaker 1: blaming him for the wrong thing.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm riding with Biden. I'm riding with Biden. Now.
Speaker 1: We don't want him riding because on the bike we
Speaker 1: know he ain't no good and let's not talk about
Speaker 1: that up and downstairs syndrome that he suffers from.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but that expression is great. It's perfect for
Speaker 3: the case that we just talked about. Right, So maybe
Speaker 3: the Iranian the prisoner exchange would have gone better if
Speaker 3: we didn't have such a mess from the nuclear deal,
Speaker 3: whether it's absolutely furious with us, but it's not helping
Speaker 3: our gas prices, that's for sure. They're they're still up
Speaker 3: even after the summer.
Speaker 1: Well, y'all doing better than we are, because in California,
Speaker 1: guess is seven dollars, it's.
Speaker 3: Three eighty six? Is the national average other than Colorado,
Speaker 3: North Dakota, California, it's all up. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised why it's so much Like I'm thinking, doesn't
Speaker 3: it come from Alaska down kind of come you're on
Speaker 3: the you're on the coast. It doesn't make any sense
Speaker 3: to me why it's so stink and expensive. It's not
Speaker 3: like it's you know, you have to travel all over
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 5: Don't forget where we live.
Speaker 3: No, I know it's true, but I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of this has to do with with the the shut
Speaker 3: off from Saudi Arabia and from Russia, you know, cutting off.
Speaker 3: Not that we we take much gas from them, but
Speaker 3: it's kind of it affects everything as a trickle down,
Speaker 3: so crazy, it's absolutely crazy. H Did you hear that
Speaker 3: that the talks are going big over in Russia with
Speaker 3: with Kim Jung un or whatever his name.
Speaker 1: Is, and it's and we have talked about that here
Speaker 1: on laugh and earnybody, And that is my fear while
Speaker 1: we while we still in such termal all over race
Speaker 1: and color and arguing on talking about a civil war
Speaker 1: here and a civil war there, while we're fighting in each.
Speaker 5: Other all this and and you know what's so crazy, Americans.
Speaker 1: Should see how it has destroyed the Republican Party and
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party all this in fighting, you can't get
Speaker 1: anything accomplished.
Speaker 5: But now we're going to fight each other.
Speaker 1: While we are fighting each other as Americans on who
Speaker 1: whose color is the great race and whose color is
Speaker 1: not the great race, We're gonna all be the.
Speaker 5: Dead race because they our enemies will be we.
Speaker 1: Will be so focused on fighting each other, they're gonna
Speaker 1: take us all out.
Speaker 3: It's really scary because I mean that really is that
Speaker 3: that that could be a nuclear war, you know, with
Speaker 3: with all of those those and the.
Speaker 5: Words of Trump, that could be World War two. Bobby,
Speaker 5: it's not even funny.
Speaker 3: But those ballistic missiles are like absolutely no joke. So
Speaker 3: it really super super crazy. And speaking of infighting, I mean,
Speaker 3: look what's going on in Congress in the Senate. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Republicans are just fighting. It's like they're paralyzed. The
Speaker 3: far far crazy, mega right, the gets is the Hillary
Speaker 3: Taylor whatever is there. They're like Marjorie Taylor. Yes I'm green.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of her last name. God it's a color.
Speaker 3: I'm having a senior moment.
Speaker 5: Share.
Speaker 3: They're absolutely holding people speak to the fire and talking
Speaker 3: about potentially ousting McCarthy, which could happen because the margins
Speaker 3: are so narrow. It wouldn't take a whole hell of
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 5: Well, it took what it took him seventeen.
Speaker 3: Right, honest to gosh. Just crazy.
Speaker 1: But and here's my issue with here's my love about that,
Speaker 1: because my baby coming back. My baby has came up
Speaker 1: out of retirement. Say I'm coming back. My Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: is coming back.
Speaker 5: So listen.
Speaker 1: I believe that they vote Nancy will win round one.
Speaker 3: Oh, honest to god. But she doesn't want the big seat.
Speaker 3: That'll be hakeeen. But she can. I would love it
Speaker 3: if if after the election, if we if the if
Speaker 3: the House turned, I would love her to groom Hakeem
Speaker 3: a little bit more. I think that that would be
Speaker 3: absolutely great. You know, while she still was in giving
Speaker 3: him advice, kind of bringing him along and letting him,
Speaker 3: letting him be as a strong, fierce leader like she was.
Speaker 5: She you know she was.
Speaker 3: She will go down in history as is one of
Speaker 3: the best, the best in the business for sure. On
Speaker 3: both sides will say that you know, there was no
Speaker 3: if she said something, it was happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was, she was. I said on they ready
Speaker 1: that she was the strongest Democrat, that she had the
Speaker 1: more balls than anybody in the Democratic line, right, she
Speaker 1: really did.
Speaker 3: They came after her family and she still kept going.
Speaker 3: Did you see that Hunter Biden is now suing the
Speaker 3: I R S. Which I find I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: necessarily a bad thing. He said, there were there's privacy
Speaker 3: issues and stuff shouldn't have been leaked. You know, it's
Speaker 3: it's sort of flip, you know, he's he says that
Speaker 3: they violated his privacy rights by disclosing tax return information openly.
Speaker 3: So we'll see if that's We'll see if he did
Speaker 3: you know, the whistleblower. We're saying, member prostitutes, sex club memberships,
Speaker 3: there are a couple of other things and they shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been able.
Speaker 5: To speak to that.
Speaker 3: So if he feels it's it's like a double edged sword.
Speaker 3: He feels as if as if his last name wasn't Biden,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be in the the mess he was in.
Speaker 3: And the other side feels that because his name is Biden,
Speaker 3: he's getting a preferential treatment, which seems a little crazy
Speaker 3: to me. But but we'll see how that that pans out.
Speaker 3: I just feel badly for his dad because I think
Speaker 3: it's doing nothing but hurting his dad.
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's the reason.
Speaker 1: With the gas price, is with the food prices, with
Speaker 1: all the crisis that's happening.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: They're trying to do this because the November fourth, it's
Speaker 1: coming faster than we know, which is election day primaries.
Speaker 1: They are really trying to discredit him as the president
Speaker 1: now to make Trump look better. Trump is facing ninety
Speaker 1: one federal charges. God did to write full long guilty
Speaker 1: on tape saying he needs one hundred and eighty made
Speaker 1: up vote or eleven thousand, one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever the number is. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you.
Speaker 1: The reality of it is that we sit here and
Speaker 1: we see it, but it's not what you see. Now.
Speaker 5: This is not even what you hear. It is just
Speaker 5: what you want and choose to believe.
Speaker 3: It's true. It's it's it's amazing that so much has
Speaker 3: been brought to light, and people still it's like they don't,
Speaker 3: you know, see no evil here, no evil that it
Speaker 3: seems absolutely crazy. But speaking about the Congress and Senate
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, Actius is reporting that earlier this week that
Speaker 3: he is he is no longer enforcing a dress code
Speaker 3: on the chamber floor. And I think this is a
Speaker 3: nod to John Fetterman, which is nice because he always
Speaker 3: looks like a hobo to me. You know, he looks
Speaker 3: like you know when you wake up and you just
Speaker 3: throw what's on the floor on. And he's showing up
Speaker 3: at the Senate. I have to say, I like a
Speaker 3: little formality. I like when people used to dress for dates.
Speaker 3: I liked when they dressed to travel.
Speaker 1: Well, as an American who watches who's an avid news watcher,
Speaker 1: and I remember telling my old partner on the first
Speaker 1: season of Laugh and Learned, Nick Smith, it I trust
Speaker 1: you more if you I trust the man. A male
Speaker 1: noose responded to cast them more if he has a
Speaker 1: suit jacket on, not necessarily a tie, but it's something.
Speaker 1: The right suit jacket that commands authority and attention.
Speaker 5: With women, as long as the hair is done, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty cool. But with men, I trust you more. If
Speaker 5: you have on a suit jacket, I do too.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it has to be a suit.
Speaker 3: You just said something even a two piece, you know,
Speaker 3: pants and a jacket. He doesn't have to have a tie.
Speaker 3: But there's something I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 3: we're losing something.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I would say, well, we grew up
Speaker 1: who we grew up, Walter Kronkai.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, that's who we grew up.
Speaker 1: And I just I just like the whole jacket thing.
Speaker 1: I think the jacket speaks authority and trust and intelligence.
Speaker 1: And when you two relaxed, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I believe you. You just look like somebody off the block.
Speaker 1: And speaking of Walter Kronkait, my baby, my my love,
Speaker 1: my sweet face, David Muir is getting Walter Cronkit award.
Speaker 1: I don't know who David Muir is. He does world
Speaker 1: news every day and I love that. I have the
Speaker 1: biggest crush on.
Speaker 3: And he always seems I mean, obviously we don't see
Speaker 3: him and you only see what you see on TV.
Speaker 3: But he always seems st put together. And a few
Speaker 3: times I've seen him interviewed himself, which isn't much. He's
Speaker 3: kind of giggles a little bit. He's he's a little differential.
Speaker 3: He seems he seems sweet. But the one thing that
Speaker 3: we all do see is he works very hard and
Speaker 3: he deserves it. Nobody deserves it better.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I lost. I watched.
Speaker 1: I watched World News because I want to know what's
Speaker 1: going on, but I mostly watching because I like to
Speaker 1: look at his old Kroogan nose face, because his nose
Speaker 1: is a little.
Speaker 3: That's all right, he looks, he's he's he looks alright
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 5: Very handsome man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is handsome, and he's somebody that's aging very well,
Speaker 3: you know, like very handsome when he was younger. But
Speaker 3: he's some people kind of just hold their looks. I
Speaker 3: think President Biden was. He was good looking as he
Speaker 3: is young and he's he's kind of held his look.
Speaker 3: His son not so much. But his son has lived
Speaker 3: a hard life. He was very handsome when he was young,
Speaker 3: but he's he's aging. With all this nonsense that's been
Speaker 3: going on. Uh, the auto strike.
Speaker 5: Is still on.
Speaker 1: That is another tactic to me, Well, there's so many
Speaker 1: strikes going on. They're even talking about but they're talking
Speaker 1: about resolving the writer strike and the actors strike here.
Speaker 1: But it's all of this is under Biden's watch, and
Speaker 1: he's so close to the primaries.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Bobby, it's my words.
Speaker 1: Is an overplay for it's an underplay for the like
Speaker 1: they're really trying to shadow by it and to make
Speaker 1: him look as horrible as possible, especially right now, right
Speaker 1: before the primaries, because then they want people to run
Speaker 1: to Trump. Oh, Trump is the savior. Trump is this.
Speaker 1: Trump is not the savior. But I don't think which
Speaker 1: I want to think. What I'm telling you how to
Speaker 1: think for yourself.
Speaker 3: She's he's saying he's going to go down there and
Speaker 3: he's he's going to help. Now, this was the same
Speaker 3: person who didn't think that he was telling them when
Speaker 3: they were threatening to strike, was like ten years ago,
Speaker 3: go to different states, cut the wages. You know, you
Speaker 3: can do it cheaper. So I mean, I do have
Speaker 3: to say. There was one a CEO that was at
Speaker 3: one of the companies. She was a female, and she
Speaker 3: was justifying her twenty nine million dollar salary by her performance,
Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, twenty nine million, you couldn't
Speaker 3: give a few of those million. Kick it down to
Speaker 3: the people, because labor is what supports any of these companies.
Speaker 3: If you didn't have the good labor and it wasn't
Speaker 3: tight and they weren't putting out a decent product, people
Speaker 3: wouldn't buy it, and you wouldn't you know, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to get any type of bonus. Never mind
Speaker 3: bonuses that are like that. They're they're looking back. They're
Speaker 3: looking for just pay increases. Back when we had the
Speaker 3: last recession in seven, eighth, nine and ten, when when
Speaker 3: the government had to bail these companies out, they gave
Speaker 3: up their pay increases for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3: So they're just looking to be brought hole again. You know,
Speaker 3: they were willing to do that with the government. These
Speaker 3: are good we're hard working people to keep you know,
Speaker 3: to keep the companies going. So I mean they have
Speaker 3: to do something. They're willing to twenty percent.
Speaker 5: But that's it.
Speaker 1: And here's a bigger killer about that. The quality of
Speaker 1: the car sys They have not been the same. When
Speaker 1: I grew up, my uncle worked in Detroit and worked
Speaker 1: at a car fact, they took pride in those parts.
Speaker 1: They took pride. And there's so many things are missing,
Speaker 1: so many things are not working. It is just not
Speaker 1: the same. The quality is not the same, The work
Speaker 1: ethic is definitely not the it's just different.
Speaker 3: Well, you just said it. So it's because at that time, Flame,
Speaker 3: they were given a pension, so they didn't have to
Speaker 3: worry about retirement. They were giving a good living wage,
Speaker 3: you know, and they were paid for performance as well,
Speaker 3: so if you hit your marks they all got. Wasn't
Speaker 3: a lot of money. They probably got a little bit
Speaker 3: extra at Christmas time or something. But these these people
Speaker 3: have no pensions any longer. They're making below, you know,
Speaker 3: substandard wages. Well you get what you pay for, as
Speaker 3: the old expression goes, you need to pay these people
Speaker 3: something and you'll get the cream of the crop. My
Speaker 3: own car, I said, nothing but problems they told today
Speaker 3: I found out I'm probably going to have to buy
Speaker 3: a new one because I had to put five thousand
Speaker 3: into it and the car isn't worth five thousand. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just paid it off, Flame, Isn't that
Speaker 3: the way? You just pay it off? And all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, the drops dead like a.
Speaker 5: Apple.
Speaker 3: No, it's the same kind of car you have, not
Speaker 3: Mine's not as nice as yours, same.
Speaker 1: Brand, because every time app come out with a new phone,
Speaker 1: the old one star right.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. I mean, I just paid. I'm
Speaker 3: like I can just two years and I can pay
Speaker 3: off my student loans. Wouldn't that be great? Son of
Speaker 3: a sea cook? But unfortunately that's the that's the skinny, hey,
Speaker 3: something that I don't have a lot of information about.
Speaker 3: And I don't know you've been traveling so you might not.
Speaker 3: But there was a Los Angeles Connie sheriff who was
Speaker 3: shot and killed in his patrol powered to red light.
Speaker 5: Do you know they they bury him today.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not awful. He was ambushed by Kevin Salazari
Speaker 3: was twenty nine. He just pled or his team pled
Speaker 3: guilty by reason of insanity. But we have no motive.
Speaker 3: So I didn't know if you guys had heard anything
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 5: It's on the news here. The fiance spoke.
Speaker 1: He had just asked the fiance to marry him four
Speaker 1: days before and she said yes. That he was killed
Speaker 1: four days after and she made a very emotional plea
Speaker 1: on the news today talked about how fast, how wonderful
Speaker 1: he was and movable.
Speaker 5: So it is just you know, it's you nobody. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 3: Kids, they're just kids. It's I mean, what could and
Speaker 3: the family.
Speaker 1: And the family talk spoke about him themselves, our guy,
Speaker 1: and they said that they had a history of mental
Speaker 1: illness and movable.
Speaker 5: So who knows what triggered it? Who knows if he
Speaker 5: was off His.
Speaker 1: Me is, we don't know the whole story, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't It was the La County sheriff. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: they're going to be on high alert. So and that's
Speaker 1: the problem that I have because they don't know how
Speaker 1: to put aside to hurt the pain. And this guy
Speaker 1: is Latino, and my feory is, so every young Latino
Speaker 1: young man that y'all see, because y'all angry that this
Speaker 1: one was might maybe mentally imbalanced, killed a sheriff, y'all
Speaker 1: want to be meaner to them or more abusive to me.
Speaker 1: I've seen it in the black community. I've seen it
Speaker 1: with some of my white friends. If somebody white hel somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, they they're just a little more on hire alerts,
Speaker 1: so they treat them a little meaner.
Speaker 5: They that was really bad.
Speaker 1: Blacks and Latinos will get it the worst. But that
Speaker 1: is the fear that, you know, you kill one of us,
Speaker 1: we're gonna just tearize all of you all.
Speaker 3: Well, I hope to god that doesn't happen. That said,
Speaker 3: I do hope that if this guy actually is mentally unstable,
Speaker 3: they'll get him off the streets and put him into
Speaker 3: some sort.
Speaker 5: Of Oh they got him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but well, a treatment. He maybe he might not
Speaker 3: necessarily need jail, right, It might be that he needs
Speaker 3: treatments that he's you know, if he's got bipolar or
Speaker 3: something and he's not a METS he needs to be
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know why it shouldn't be
Speaker 3: in a jail terrorizing them as well. So the writer's strike,
Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything new about the writer's strike on
Speaker 3: the side of the country.
Speaker 1: What are they saying on the news here? They saying
Speaker 1: that they were back at the negotiations table. It might
Speaker 1: be in a reason all hopefully soon. So maybe he'll
Speaker 1: getting all this together. Because of the California and the economy,
Speaker 1: it's really stuff from because so many people are unemployed
Speaker 1: because of the actors.
Speaker 3: Threight, right, I mean, I kind of imagine everybody forgets
Speaker 3: they think it's just the just the writers or the actors,
Speaker 3: and it's no, as you keep saying, it's craft service,
Speaker 3: it's the boom guys. It's the people who are clean up.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, the people who are put their stuff in there,
Speaker 3: putting the stuff in their trucks and schlupping it, you know,
Speaker 3: to set to set. Oh, I wanted to tell you
Speaker 3: I saw earlier today and I said, Oh, this has
Speaker 3: got flame written all over it. Taylor Swift, and we're
Speaker 3: already loving her because the bonuses she paid everybody you
Speaker 3: know or her people, I thought that was so great.
Speaker 3: She is really having a call to action to have
Speaker 3: people we're just to vote and vote, vote, vote, And
Speaker 3: she has such a huge platform that I'm hoping to God,
Speaker 3: especially the younger people will actually get off their their
Speaker 3: took uses and go do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that because the youth is who's
Speaker 1: going to be the right so they need to get
Speaker 1: involved now. And I'm hoping that, like we talked about before,
Speaker 1: that people simplifying politics. Bipartisan infrastructure filibusters. Sometimes they go
Speaker 1: over people's heads, but if you simplify to make an
Speaker 1: ABC to making people understand why as simple as going
Speaker 1: to register and getting it done. So to make real change,
Speaker 1: I think people will respect the vote a little more
Speaker 1: because I think that's what's happening. People are losing respect
Speaker 1: for the vote.
Speaker 3: Bobby, Well, they don't. You're exactly right, because they don't
Speaker 3: think that their vote counts. If it didn't count, they
Speaker 3: wouldn't be beating the bushes looking for your vote.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: It is a bit based on one vote. I know
Speaker 3: it is. We have the electoral college which makes it difficult.
Speaker 3: But you if your regular votes get your numbers up,
Speaker 3: then you'll win the electoral or college for that state.
Speaker 3: You know, So there is you say there's an overplay
Speaker 3: for the underplay, get out and vote.
Speaker 5: I think that they're trying to just credit the vote
Speaker 5: to That's why with all the cheating allegations and stop
Speaker 5: the steal, because if they make it look like it
Speaker 5: is worthless, it's easier for them to control. It's true
Speaker 5: if I said that.
Speaker 3: Correctly, No, you said that exactly. It's it is true.
Speaker 3: And even standing together, so you know, they had that
Speaker 3: un General Assembly and the president who Ukraine got up
Speaker 3: and he was asking for our help and telling why
Speaker 3: it's so important, you know, with the worship aggression and
Speaker 3: the genocide and taking the children from their own country,
Speaker 3: and you know, if it's it's just going to keep
Speaker 3: on moving aside. And I thought Biden did really well speaking,
Speaker 3: you know, emphasizing the importance of standing with Ukraine and
Speaker 3: you know, up to the naked aggression. Uh so it's
Speaker 3: not us because it's only a hop, skip and a
Speaker 3: jump over the pond to get to us, you know,
Speaker 3: after after Europe is captured.
Speaker 1: Well, can I just say how much I appreciate and
Speaker 1: respect of Zelenski. I think he is a gangster and
Speaker 1: I love that he is not afraid and whatever fears
Speaker 1: he does have, he does not show him. He stands
Speaker 1: in it and he stands for it, and he loves
Speaker 1: his country and his people.
Speaker 5: So the president's of Lizki, Yeah, he really does. I
Speaker 5: wish we could have said that about one of our presidents.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I love President Obama.
Speaker 5: I stand with him, I said.
Speaker 1: One of our president Oh, I'm talking about a particular one.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, specific one. All of a sudden, I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I liked no it's the truth. Hey, but
Speaker 3: some people we just talked about that earlier in the
Speaker 3: in the hour, right, some people would they're still standing
Speaker 3: with them, even though he's you know, still acting a
Speaker 3: full you know, still saying that his ninety one indictments
Speaker 3: he was he was telling Welker were the Biden indictments.
Speaker 3: They're not, They're not anything else. Biden is driving this
Speaker 3: and nothing could be further from the truth. So it's
Speaker 3: just it's absolutely crazy to me, absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1: And this is the country that we live in, Bobby Clifford,
Speaker 1: because guess what, hear it, laugh and learn. We're not
Speaker 1: trying to get you to change your mind. We love you, guys.
Speaker 1: We're just trying to get you to use your mind
Speaker 1: because of why.
Speaker 3: Bobby, Because of mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 1: And I know some of y'all wasting y'all damn man's
Speaker 1: and I need you to get it right because it's
Speaker 1: getting close and it's getting closer. And I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now, if you think we in a pickle, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what could be and what could happen,
Speaker 1: and you not paying attention to what you have seen
Speaker 1: in the last five years and the.
Speaker 5: Last five year. Is you not paying attention to what
Speaker 5: you have seen and folded right in front of your
Speaker 5: face in.
Speaker 1: This country, then you must be blind because it's right
Speaker 1: in your face. Fix it, Bobby cliff and fix it.
Speaker 3: It's true, and do your work. People vote, but we're
Speaker 3: not telling you who to vote for, but go and
Speaker 3: look at your options.
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, because the dirty kitchen. Nobody wants to cook
Speaker 1: in a dirty kitchen. We want a clean kitchen, So
Speaker 1: bide and clean that damn kitchen.
Speaker 3: Just don't be on no bike, go up any stairs
Speaker 3: or down down.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys for joining us here.
Speaker 1: Bobby Cliffer, thank you so much, Thank you trying fabulous producer,
Speaker 1: mister Aaron.
Speaker 5: We appreciate you. Aaron. Happy anniversary once again to the
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