Speaker 1: On September eighteenth, twenty twenty three, the story hit the press.
Speaker 1: The headline read baby Mama drama. Bachelor Clayton Eckerds x
Speaker 1: fling demands he take paternity test in court case after
Speaker 1: she becomes pregnant with twins.
Speaker 2: My name is Diana Cooper and I am a former
Speaker 2: reporter with the US Son and back in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: I broke the story of Laura Owens and Clayton Eckered,
Speaker 2: eliging that she was pregnant with his twins.
Speaker 1: Diana received a tip an email from a woman in
Speaker 1: Arizona with a shocking claim.
Speaker 2: A lot of people on our team were like, is
Speaker 2: it real? Like when you have to question something, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, maybe readers are going to be
Speaker 2: just as interested as we are.
Speaker 1: The readers were very interested. Under the headline, the Son
Speaker 1: posted multiple pictures of Clayton from his time on The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: You can imagine what this felt like for him. He
Speaker 1: was trying to leave his Bachelor passed by. Now he
Speaker 1: was in the spotlight again and not in a good way.
Speaker 1: As soon as he saw.
Speaker 3: The article, I put my hands on my head and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is gonna be such
Speaker 3: a mess.
Speaker 1: Clayton's phone started blowing up with texts and dms.
Speaker 3: It was nerve wracking at the time because I assume
Speaker 3: most of these damns were going to be negative.
Speaker 1: But they weren't all negative. One of them turned out
Speaker 1: to be extremely important.
Speaker 3: So I was just scrolling through my Instagram dms and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I see this message from a
Speaker 3: woman named Ashley.
Speaker 1: The message came in just twenty four hours after the
Speaker 1: story broke, and this is what it said.
Speaker 3: Hey, you need to look into this court case. You're
Speaker 3: not the only one. Look up Owen's versus Gillespie and
Speaker 3: the Azy court docs. Two plus years ago. She accused
Speaker 3: my boyfriend of getting her pregnant with twins.
Speaker 1: I'm Stephanie Young and this is love trapped.
Speaker 4: There's no way.
Speaker 5: You'd better be.
Speaker 1: I'll be raising Holy.
Speaker 6: Helmes if you ever, ever, ever ever try to.
Speaker 1: The day the news broke, Clayton was actually on his
Speaker 1: first day of a new job, a hosting gig for
Speaker 1: a local TV show called Pickleball Paddle Battle.
Speaker 3: The thing is, I don't even play pickleball, but when
Speaker 3: the opportunity came through, I figured, hey, why not, like
Speaker 3: it'll be a fun gig, We'll have a good time
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to pass us up.
Speaker 1: The day before filming started, he posted on social media
Speaker 1: saying he'd be on set that week, and then he
Speaker 1: got an email, the kind of email he'd been getting
Speaker 1: all summer. It was from Laura Owens. He'd come to
Speaker 1: expect them, but he hadn't gotten used to them.
Speaker 3: And she said, look, I'm going public if I don't
Speaker 3: hear back from you. I've given you enough chances, but
Speaker 3: now it's time for this story to be heard and
Speaker 3: for people to find out who you really are.
Speaker 1: He'd been issued this ultimatum a few times before, Laura
Speaker 1: demanding he engaged with her and threatening to go public
Speaker 1: if he didn't. Clayton ignored her message, but this time
Speaker 1: Laura wasn't bluffing.
Speaker 2: Laura sent us a tip to The Sun's tip line email.
Speaker 1: That's Diana Cooper again, the one who broke the story.
Speaker 1: At the time, she was writing nearly a story a
Speaker 1: day for The Sun, mostly about the Bachelor when she
Speaker 1: got the tip email from Laura Owens. It had a
Speaker 1: lot of attachments like court documents, police reports and photos.
Speaker 1: It looked legit.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, I was convinced. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: she had all these dates, she had proof and email.
Speaker 1: Is getting ready for his first day of filming when
Speaker 1: he got an email from Diana Cooper.
Speaker 3: She wrote, Hey, I've been talking with Laura Owens and
Speaker 3: we're going to release a story today.
Speaker 1: At this time, Diana needed his response within the next
Speaker 1: few hours.
Speaker 3: I hopped on a phone call and I said, this
Speaker 3: is a complete lie. This woman is lying out her teeth.
Speaker 3: She has no evidence.
Speaker 1: But Laura provided the tabloid with court documents and a
Speaker 1: very compelling narrative. It was enough for the Sun to
Speaker 1: run with. Diana published it that evening, and she sent
Speaker 1: Clayton the link. He was on set in between filming.
Speaker 1: When he opened the.
Speaker 3: Article, I'm like, oh my gosh, what do I do.
Speaker 3: First thing I think, I'm like, I gotta go tell
Speaker 3: the pickleball paddle battle. I got to tell these people
Speaker 3: like it's day one. They've all literally just met me,
Speaker 3: and I've got to explain what's going on. I can't
Speaker 3: just like breeze over this. This is going to get
Speaker 3: right in front of him.
Speaker 1: He went to the show producers to explain the situation
Speaker 1: and tell them his side of things. They held a
Speaker 1: closed door discussion about how to move forward. When they
Speaker 1: called him back in, they said.
Speaker 3: We believe you, so let's just keep it rolling. And
Speaker 3: that meant a lot to me, you know, Like I
Speaker 3: remember just being like, well, I can't believe it. These
Speaker 3: people just met me and they're going to roll with me.
Speaker 1: So Clayton went back to filming all the while his
Speaker 1: phone was in his locker buzzing NonStop with text messages
Speaker 1: and calls.
Speaker 3: One thing I'm really good at is compartmentalization. Unfortunately I
Speaker 3: did it on The Bachelor. I learned it through football.
Speaker 1: Well, Clayton was in compartmentalization mode. His friends and family
Speaker 1: were all sending around the article Here's how it starts.
Speaker 1: Bachelor Clayton Eckerds x fling has demanded he take a
Speaker 1: paternity test in court documents exclusively obtained by the US Sun.
Speaker 1: When Clayton got a chance to sit down and read it,
Speaker 1: he was surprised to see that Laura hadn't used her
Speaker 1: own name. She'd asked The Sun not to publish her name.
Speaker 1: Here's Diana.
Speaker 2: She said she was a podcast host, she gave ted
Speaker 2: talks and She wanted me to include that information. We
Speaker 2: use her age and where she's from, Arizona.
Speaker 4: She just didn't want her name used.
Speaker 1: Even though the tabloid didn't print her name, the clues
Speaker 1: Laura provided were enough for the Internet to identify her
Speaker 1: within minutes.
Speaker 7: Female podcaster has a TEDx Talk lives in Scottsdale.
Speaker 4: Sorry too much information.
Speaker 7: They know your street address within a moment, like welcome
Speaker 7: to the Internet.
Speaker 1: That's Dave Neil. He's a stand up comedian and host
Speaker 1: of the popular daily podcast The Rush Hour, where he
Speaker 1: covers pop culture and bachelor news.
Speaker 7: Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday to you. I got all
Speaker 7: your news for your rush hour ride to work.
Speaker 1: His show has been going for almost six years, and
Speaker 1: it's earned him an extremely loyal following. Was one of
Speaker 1: the first people to pick up the story about Clayton.
Speaker 7: My audience is so piped in that usually I'll get
Speaker 7: ten messages before I even wake up.
Speaker 4: When there's a story like.
Speaker 1: This, Dave wasn't alone. He called Reality Steve, who'd also
Speaker 1: been covering bachelor news for years. They'd seen a lot
Speaker 1: of drama before, but nothing quite like this.
Speaker 5: Immediately, Dave Neil and I contacted each other and we
Speaker 5: were like, oh my gosh, this is crazy covering Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 5: I just hadn't seen anybody involved in a paternity scandal
Speaker 5: like this, so I was like, Dave, this is huge,
Speaker 5: and Dave's like, absolutely, we got to cover this.
Speaker 1: At first, they weren't sure what to make of it.
Speaker 7: This is either the craziest story of a Bachelor villain
Speaker 7: or the biggest scam is happening.
Speaker 4: It's one or the other.
Speaker 1: For Dave. In reality, Steve, the piece in the sun
Speaker 1: was jaw dropping. It's just not the kind of thing
Speaker 1: you read every day. In it, Clayton is adamant about
Speaker 1: his side of things. He told old the tabloid. My
Speaker 1: response is in the court documents. I'm not giving it
Speaker 1: the time of day because it's baseless. We did not
Speaker 1: have sexual intercourse that caught Dave Neil's attention.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at this going this does not pass the
Speaker 4: sniff test.
Speaker 1: In the article, Laura doesn't provide any medical documentation like
Speaker 1: ultrasounds or scans, but she does provide multiple text exchanges
Speaker 1: with Clayton. She openly expresses that she wants to try
Speaker 1: dating him. For Dave Neil. In reality, Steve Laura's apparent
Speaker 1: infatuation with Clayton was an immediate red flag.
Speaker 4: It read like fan fiction. It didn't make sense.
Speaker 5: Something doesn't seem right with this story.
Speaker 7: The red flags for me is when someone wants to
Speaker 7: share information, but not all the information.
Speaker 4: We knew early on. She cherry picked the hell out
Speaker 4: of things, so they.
Speaker 1: Started investigating Laura's claims.
Speaker 7: I have to take these claims seriously for the sake
Speaker 7: of my audience.
Speaker 4: Initially, it's a FactFinder mission.
Speaker 1: Within a few days of the article coming out, reality
Speaker 1: Steve tried to fill in some of the blanks by
Speaker 1: reaching out to Clayton directly.
Speaker 5: I got a hold of Clayton. We had about a
Speaker 5: ninety minute conversation, and I believed every word of what
Speaker 5: he told me. And it had nothing to do with oh,
Speaker 5: just gonna side with the guy, because if Clayton seemed
Speaker 5: shady in that phone call with me, I absolutely would
Speaker 5: have called him out for it. He didn't. He told
Speaker 5: me so many details that I'm like, there's no way
Speaker 5: this guy's that good of a liar.
Speaker 1: Dave Neil believed him too.
Speaker 7: The reason I believe Clayton is his biggest issue on
Speaker 7: his season was that he was too honest.
Speaker 1: I heard this from so many people, including Clayton's own family.
Speaker 1: One of his defining characteristics is candor, maybe even to
Speaker 1: a fault. Here's Dave Neil again for.
Speaker 7: Him to say, hey, no, this isn't true. That immediately,
Speaker 7: you know, was like game on. Now we have a
Speaker 7: story because he said, she said, which, by the way,
Speaker 7: is the most provable thing in the world. Either she's
Speaker 7: having these kids in their yours or they're not. Why
Speaker 7: would anybody lie about that when you could prove it
Speaker 7: The next.
Speaker 1: Day, Dave was right, this should be a very simple
Speaker 1: thing to prove. By this point, the Internet was going crazy.
Speaker 1: The story was blowing up on Reddit, in the Bachelor
Speaker 1: and Bachelor Nation subreddits.
Speaker 6: I can't believe. I started to feel bad for Clayton
Speaker 6: for all the hate that he got. Well that's gone.
Speaker 1: If he didn't want children, he should have worn a condom.
Speaker 1: For anyone defending Clayton in here, go okay.
Speaker 8: I hope Y'll get full custody and child support.
Speaker 1: It's confirmed that Clayton is a piece of garbage. I
Speaker 1: feel for those poor babies.
Speaker 4: I never liked him, and I guess my gut feeling was.
Speaker 1: Right At first. Everyone is asumed Clayton was the bad guy.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I did too. I remember seeing the
Speaker 1: headline and thinking sounds about right. His reputation from The
Speaker 1: Bachelor preceded him. Plus, we've worked hard as a society
Speaker 1: to air towards believing women when they say they've been victimized.
Speaker 1: I wanted to believe Laura, but the way she presented
Speaker 1: her side of the story and the sun was just off.
Speaker 1: People on Reddit were picking up on that too.
Speaker 3: This isn't a good way to start motherhood.
Speaker 9: If you want anonymity, then let it get settled in court.
Speaker 4: Posting Clayton's text without including your own in the full
Speaker 4: conversation suggest you're hiding something.
Speaker 1: It sounds like this isn't really about your pregnancy, This
Speaker 1: is about your unrequited feelings for him.
Speaker 5: I really don't understand why this was brought to the
Speaker 5: internet in the first place.
Speaker 10: Why are you desperately pursuing someone who doesn't want anything
Speaker 10: to do with you.
Speaker 11: You would claim to be so innocent, but I see
Speaker 11: so many red flags on you, girl.
Speaker 1: The cracks and Laura's story were showing. It only took
Speaker 1: days for online sleuths to realize that there is a lot.
Speaker 7: Of group think online. But the audience was about ninety
Speaker 7: percent against Clayton. Immediately within the week, they were about
Speaker 7: ninety nine percent for Clayton. The complete tide shifted away
Speaker 7: from Clayton being the worst person to ever be on
Speaker 7: The Bachelor to oh boy, this might be a different story.
Speaker 1: Laura likely expected the public to be on her side
Speaker 1: after coming forward, but after the Internet started poking holes
Speaker 1: in her story, it seemed like going public had backfired.
Speaker 1: A few days after she went to the tabloids, Laura
Speaker 1: took to the Bachelor's subreddit, where she made a post
Speaker 1: with this headline, read by a voice actor.
Speaker 12: I am the anonymous woman in the Clayton scandal. Here's
Speaker 12: the proof, Here's my story.
Speaker 1: When she made this reddit post, Laura added a link.
Speaker 1: It went to a dropbox folder filled with what Laura
Speaker 1: claimed was proof of her pregnancy, mirror selfies, cropped text messages,
Speaker 1: and a photo of the positive pregnancy test. The dropbox
Speaker 1: link has since been deactivated.
Speaker 12: As a side note, for those who are questioning whether
Speaker 12: I want attention or followers, please remember I am anonymous
Speaker 12: in this case. I don't want money from Clayton. All
Speaker 12: I have asked for is communication.
Speaker 1: By this point, the Internet had already figured out Laura's name.
Speaker 1: This is what Dave Neil thought when he saw the
Speaker 1: dropbox folder of proof that Laura posted on Reddit.
Speaker 7: The fact that she was so brazen in sharing evidence
Speaker 7: but wouldn't share the screenshots. The Internet is a jury,
Speaker 7: and all people want to say is like, show me
Speaker 7: the full story.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: The story was becoming an Internet sensation, taking on a
Speaker 1: life of its own. It earned some creative nicknames online,
Speaker 1: like the top Twins or the Blowjob Babies, and Laura
Speaker 1: was actively replying to people on Reddit and on social media.
Speaker 1: She was writing comments about her alleged pregnancy. Clayton had
Speaker 1: to decide how he was going to respond.
Speaker 3: This woman released this publicly, thinking it was going to
Speaker 3: derail me, thinking that I was going to want to
Speaker 3: do everything in my power to keep it silent. But
Speaker 3: once you open up Pandora's box, guess who's jumping in
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 3: I have been through so much shit. I was publicly
Speaker 3: humiliated for my time as the Bachelor. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: doesn't rattle me like you think it does.
Speaker 1: Clayton fired back on Instagram and included a pointed message.
Speaker 3: So I post a story and I said, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm actively in courts with this individual in the Phoenix
Speaker 3: court system. That was me saying, do look so you
Speaker 3: can find her name. And then I said, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not the only one. I put that story out
Speaker 3: without doxing her, but basically like leading a hole to water.
Speaker 1: And this really pissed Laura off.
Speaker 3: She's sending like all caps emails and so she's like,
Speaker 3: we gotta seal this. I'm gonna sue you. And I
Speaker 3: was just like, ah, this is music to my ears
Speaker 3: right now, Like I'm so annoyed that we're in this,
Speaker 3: but at least for this moment, I'm like, oh yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: how does it feel. Everyone just found out your name
Speaker 3: and now you're in the spotlight and guess what. Now
Speaker 3: it's going to be a matter of who can stand
Speaker 3: the fire longer. And as far as I'm concerned, you've
Speaker 3: never been in the fire, but I have.
Speaker 1: Clayton wasn't afraid of bad press. He'd been through it before.
Speaker 1: Now that the story was out, his goal was to
Speaker 1: expose the truth about Laura Owens. If there's one thing
Speaker 1: I've learned about Laura Owens while researching for this podcast,
Speaker 1: It's that she doesn't back down easily, and thought the
Speaker 1: public backlash might be her breaking point, but the pressure
Speaker 1: only pushed her to take it a step further. On
Speaker 1: September twenty second, twenty twenty three, Laura called the Scottsdale Police.
Speaker 1: Here's a recording of that call.
Speaker 13: Got so please bye.
Speaker 14: My name is Laura Owens.
Speaker 6: I am out of town right now.
Speaker 14: I'm out of Arizona, but I'm trying to get an
Speaker 14: emergency injunction against harassment against my ex who is celebrity
Speaker 14: and is very publicly posting for people to look up
Speaker 14: my cases, our current case and look at my case.
Speaker 14: I have two other restraining orders against the same man,
Speaker 14: and I am just desperately trying to stop it, to
Speaker 14: stop him from continuing to post because it's getting picked
Speaker 14: up from my People magazine and that's weekly.
Speaker 12: I'm out in town.
Speaker 13: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: The Scottsdale Police followed up with Clayton.
Speaker 3: I said, here's what I posted. I said, she's trying
Speaker 3: to fame me. I'm a public figure, giant to worry
Speaker 3: about me, I'm not going to go after this woman.
Speaker 3: I literally don't want anything to do with her. And
Speaker 3: so he was like, all right, well, she told me
Speaker 3: to call you, so I told her I would. Hopefully
Speaker 3: this will blow over for you. I said, yeah, hopefully,
Speaker 3: and that was it.
Speaker 1: But of course that wasn't it. She also hit Clayton
Speaker 1: with the cease and desist. He kept talking about Laura
Speaker 1: anyway because he knew something about her story was very wrong. Remember,
Speaker 1: Clayton got that DM from a stranger named Ashley, who
Speaker 1: said her boyfriend had been through the same thing with
Speaker 1: Laura Owens. Clayton reached back out to her.
Speaker 3: She gave me his number, and that's when Greg and
Speaker 3: I first started talking.
Speaker 1: His name was Greg Gillespie. Greg had experienced a remarkably
Speaker 1: similar encounter with Laura two years prior. We'll hear more
Speaker 1: about Greg's story later, but for now, Clayton was feeling
Speaker 1: a rush of relief.
Speaker 3: It almost didn't feel real. Talking to Greg was the
Speaker 3: first time that I had hope. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm going to be able to connect the
Speaker 3: dots and prove that this is a whole patterney Ski
Speaker 3: that this woman runs.
Speaker 1: Hearing Greg Gillespie's story lit a fire under Clayton. Suddenly
Speaker 1: everything made sense.
Speaker 3: I go right to the courthouse because oestly, at this point,
Speaker 3: this is the most important thing in my life by far.
Speaker 3: Work all these other things go by the wayside. I
Speaker 3: couldn't even function anyways, Bentley, I couldn't focus. So I
Speaker 3: sit down on this computer and I type in the
Speaker 3: court case number and up polls all of the documents.
Speaker 3: And so I was sitting there for probably an hour
Speaker 3: to an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: As Clayton sat in the courthouse reading Greg Gillespie's documents,
Speaker 1: he realized that his case was part of a pattern.
Speaker 3: One thing Greg did that I'm super grateful for was,
Speaker 3: he said, I did not seal the documents because I
Speaker 3: knew she was going to do it again.
Speaker 1: The person who initially messaged Clayton, Ashley, was actually Greg
Speaker 1: Gillespie's girlfriend now wife, and Ashley had said one other
Speaker 1: important thing at the end of her message to Clayton, you.
Speaker 3: Have to connect with my boyfriend's lawyer if you don't
Speaker 3: already have someone.
Speaker 1: That lawyer was named Greg Woodnick two. Greg's confusing, I
Speaker 1: know we're going to call this lawyer Woodnick from now on.
Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to Clayton, Woodnick had already heard about his story.
Speaker 15: I'm sitting at my desk one day and my law
Speaker 15: clerk walked into my office with her laptop and she said,
Speaker 15: you got to see this. And she turns around her
Speaker 15: laptop and there's an article from I think the Sun
Speaker 15: magazine and it describes this woman and Clayton Eckert and
Speaker 15: she said, doesn't this remind you of that case you
Speaker 15: worked on? And she was obviously referring to the Greg matter.
Speaker 15: And I looked at the article and I go, it's
Speaker 15: the same fucking person. And she said what. I go,
Speaker 15: it's the same person. And she looked at me like quizzically,
Speaker 15: and she's like, how do you know that? I go,
Speaker 15: what are the chances that a podcaster from Scottsdale is
Speaker 15: involved in the same sort of crap that we were
Speaker 15: dealing with with Greg? And so I'm looking at the
Speaker 15: article on my eyes A bug open and I pick
Speaker 15: up my cell phone and as I go to text Greg,
Speaker 15: the three dots pop up on my iPhone that Greg
Speaker 15: is texting me.
Speaker 1: Clayton took Ashley's advice and decided to reach out to Woodneck.
Speaker 1: They had a great conversation, but ultimately Clayton didn't think
Speaker 1: he could afford Woodneck's help.
Speaker 15: I think people assumed that him coming from celebrity status,
Speaker 15: that he had a lot of resources, and I learned
Speaker 15: pretty quickly that he didn't. He was getting his feet
Speaker 15: on the ground in the real estate market. He wasn't poor,
Speaker 15: but the potential expense and legal expense dealing with Laura
Speaker 15: was going to be significant. He didn't have the resources
Speaker 15: to go forward, and I said, just let me know
Speaker 15: if you need anything, and we kind of left it
Speaker 15: at that.
Speaker 1: But before they hung up the phone, wouldn't it gave
Speaker 1: Clayton a warning.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'll let you know what you're up against.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, no, I'll be.
Speaker 1: Fine even without legal representation. Clayton knew he had to
Speaker 1: act fearing what Laura might do next, he filed for
Speaker 1: a restraining order to hopefully put an end to the chaos.
Speaker 1: His day in court was officially on the books for
Speaker 1: the following month.
Speaker 3: I inform her of it because she obviously has to
Speaker 3: defend herself, and then that's when she shortly filed inn
Speaker 3: or protection against me.
Speaker 1: It seemed like Laura filed the order of protection as retaliation.
Speaker 1: If that wasn't it, it was convenient timing. You see,
Speaker 1: after five months of back and forth about getting a
Speaker 1: paternity test done, Clayton found a company willing to do
Speaker 1: a prenatal paternity test on twins. At the time, a
Speaker 1: lot of companies wouldn't because of the remote possibility that
Speaker 1: twins could have two different fathers. Laura had publicly claimed
Speaker 1: that Clayton was refusing to take a paternity test. He
Speaker 1: says that wasn't the case. It was more of a
Speaker 1: matter of logistics. He found the right testing facility, Ravgen,
Speaker 1: and submitted his DNA sample. Now he just had to
Speaker 1: wait and see if Laura would submit her portion of
Speaker 1: the test. Clayton wasn't sure if she was actually pregnant,
Speaker 1: but if she was, there was no way he was
Speaker 1: the father, so he hoped this test would finally put
Speaker 1: an end to the conversation. A few days later, I.
Speaker 3: Get an email They're like, hey, just want to let
Speaker 3: you know Laura submitted a sample and my heart dropped.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, she submitted a sample and they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she submitted it. So while we have it and we'll
Speaker 3: get you the answers back within like seven to ten
Speaker 3: business days.
Speaker 1: All Clayton could do was wait. When the phone finally rang.
Speaker 3: I wait there for about a second or two to answer,
Speaker 3: because I'm just like, this is where my life changes forever, potentially.
Speaker 1: Ravgen said. The results came back inconclusive.
Speaker 3: I said, what's what's that meaning? He said, well, it
Speaker 3: means that like there wasn't enough evidence, like there was
Speaker 3: little to no fetal DNA. I said, okay, so like
Speaker 3: she's not pregnant. He goes, well, no, it's not saying that.
Speaker 3: It's just saying that we didn't have enough fetal DNA
Speaker 3: to prove whether or not you're the father.
Speaker 1: Prenatal paternity testing companies assume that if a woman is
Speaker 1: submitting her blood for testing there is in fact a pregnancy,
Speaker 1: then they test the blood for paternal DNA. In Laura's case,
Speaker 1: the results came back saying there was little to no
Speaker 1: fetal DNA present. It could mean there was an issue
Speaker 1: with the sample, or it could mean there was no pregnancy.
Speaker 1: So Clayton asked the lab if they could prove that
Speaker 1: Laura wasn't pregnant.
Speaker 3: He goes, well, you can't really with this. In a
Speaker 3: case like this, what happens is we have to retest her.
Speaker 3: Here I go, and what happens if it comes back
Speaker 3: little to fetal DNA again? He goes, then won't retest
Speaker 3: her a third time.
Speaker 1: Clayton was becoming frustrated and he wanted proof, but Ravgen
Speaker 1: couldn't provide it.
Speaker 3: He goes, well, after the third test, we would tell
Speaker 3: her to go to her doctor. Her doctor would conduct
Speaker 3: an exam.
Speaker 1: The problem was Laura wasn't allowing Clayton to participate in
Speaker 1: any of the doctor's appointments. She said she'd made. Actually
Speaker 1: to get technical here. A few months prior, Laura told
Speaker 1: Clayton she'd had an ultrasound done and she said she
Speaker 1: had the image, but that she would only show it
Speaker 1: to him if he met her in person. He didn't
Speaker 1: want any further communication with her, and he definitely didn't
Speaker 1: want to see her in person. Clayton felt like he
Speaker 1: was out of options. The paternity test wasn't the definitive
Speaker 1: end that he expected it to be. He couldn't prove
Speaker 1: that Laura wasn't pregnant, but he was desperate to bring
Speaker 1: this scandal to an end. Clayton decided to take to
Speaker 1: social media and announce the ravgen results that there was
Speaker 1: little to no fetal DNA found in Laura's sample.
Speaker 3: I can't say she's not pregnant because I was like,
Speaker 3: that would technically be a lie based on what I
Speaker 3: was just told. I'm going to say it in a
Speaker 3: way that sounds so confident that like it's over. That
Speaker 3: was the whole point. I'm going online and I'm going
Speaker 3: on with everything that I got.
Speaker 1: At this point, he was desperate, rabbit even for the
Speaker 1: public to believe him. Here's what he posted.
Speaker 16: Listen, it's Friday, and you know what we need on
Speaker 16: a Friday.
Speaker 3: We need some good news. And who's got the good
Speaker 3: news today? I got the good news.
Speaker 16: What's that good news, Clayton? Well, test results came back
Speaker 16: early and they said little to no fetal DNA presence.
Speaker 3: Let's go, baby. We knew. I knew that was going
Speaker 3: to happen. Thankfully, five months of torture can finally be
Speaker 3: put to rest.
Speaker 1: Clayton's celebratory tone here may seem off putting. I asked
Speaker 1: him why he sounded almost enthusiastic in this VI because
Speaker 1: it's my impression that he was at a breaking point.
Speaker 1: He told me that it was an intentional performance. He'd
Speaker 1: given himself this pep talk before filming the video.
Speaker 3: You need to make this seem like you are one
Speaker 3: thousand percent confident that it's done. It's over. Hey, thanks
Speaker 3: everybody for falling along. Glad we got this put to rest.
Speaker 3: Everyone have a great day. We're done.
Speaker 1: For a moment, it seems like the video worked.
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, congratulations, I'm so happy this is over with,
Speaker 3: like I won and the public eye it's over.
Speaker 1: But if you've learned anything about Laura by now, you
Speaker 1: know this was far from over. Her response to the
Speaker 1: video was quick. First, she filed a restraining order, and,
Speaker 1: unlike Clayton's, hers was immediately granted. A hearing was set
Speaker 1: for the next month. Now she and Clayton had dueling
Speaker 1: restraining orders, but hers had been given urgency status, likely
Speaker 1: due to the very real precedent of women needing emergency
Speaker 1: protection in cases of domestic violence. Then, Laura demanded that
Speaker 1: Clayton removed the video under threat of a lawsuit. She
Speaker 1: followed that up with another call to the Scottsdale.
Speaker 3: Police Scots Please, Hi, my name is Owens.
Speaker 13: I got an order for tectis granted a couple of
Speaker 13: hours ago, and the person's already violated the order. The
Speaker 13: judge that I could call is okay.
Speaker 17: Well, it only happens once they've been served. Have they
Speaker 17: been served?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 13: But he he said that I could call before and
Speaker 13: if I had a copy of it, and I do
Speaker 13: have a copy, but.
Speaker 17: It doesn't it doesn't go into effect and till that
Speaker 17: person's been served the order.
Speaker 6: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: Even though she'd just filed for an order of protection.
Speaker 1: Laura began contacting Clayton again the same day she made
Speaker 1: that call to the police. She sent him more than
Speaker 1: ten emails. One of them was particular gularly notable. It
Speaker 1: contained a video of an ultrasound. This was something Clayton
Speaker 1: had been asking her to send for months. Then a
Speaker 1: few days later, Laura sent a photo of another ultrasound,
Speaker 1: but the photo looked strikingly different from the video. Most notably,
Speaker 1: the photo shows a pregnancy with a single baby. The
Speaker 1: video shows a twin pregnancy. This is where things get confusing.
Speaker 1: Even though these were the first ultrasounds Laura had sent
Speaker 1: him directly, it wasn't the first one Clayton had seen
Speaker 1: a few months earlier, he'd been on a zoom call
Speaker 1: with Laura's attorney, who was sharing her screen. Clayton took
Speaker 1: a screenshot of the page that supposedly showed Laura's six
Speaker 1: week ultrasound of twins. It was the only image he
Speaker 1: had until these new ones showed up in his inbox.
Speaker 1: There's something else about these ultrasound images. Clayton and his
Speaker 1: lawyers weren't the only ones to receive them. By this point,
Speaker 1: Laura was in constant contact with content creators like Reality
Speaker 1: Steve and Dave Neil. Laura was aggressively refuting their coverage
Speaker 1: and sending them what she claimed was proof. Here's Reality Steve.
Speaker 5: Here are three reasons I'm going to prove to you
Speaker 5: that I'm pregnant. One was a note from her neurologist.
Speaker 5: Neurologist last ill, my check. Neurologists don't deliver babies. The
Speaker 5: second thing was an ultrasound, and then the third thing
Speaker 5: was a picture of her in the mirror with a
Speaker 5: baby bump.
Speaker 1: Laura sent the video ultrasound evidence to Reality Steve, an
Speaker 1: audio only podcaster, yet notably bypassed Dave Neil, one of
Speaker 1: the creators who actually specializes in video content. Dave Neil
Speaker 1: is going to pick up the story.
Speaker 7: Steve and I we go way back, and then of
Speaker 7: course your boy gets a copy of it and we
Speaker 7: analyze it.
Speaker 4: And this ultrasound. I would have believed this was a
Speaker 4: real ultrasound.
Speaker 7: It was the nurses, the professionals in our community when
Speaker 7: we shared the ultrasound that said, oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: the header is all off. She messed her name up right.
Speaker 7: It didn't say Owen's Comma Laura. It said Laura Owens.
Speaker 7: That was a gigantic red flag. The one thing we
Speaker 7: can all agree on is that in the medical world,
Speaker 7: it's all standardized. Now, there might be different brands of ultrasounds,
Speaker 7: different medical equipment, but she sent us a video of
Speaker 7: an ultrasound and the timecode wasn't moving, so in her
Speaker 7: I don't know, photoshopping, she was able to insert her name.
Speaker 7: So technically, the pixels, the color, the font, perfect replicas.
Speaker 4: The flaws come in from user error.
Speaker 1: Dave's audience knows what they're doing. They were the first
Speaker 1: online sluice on this case. They traced Laura's ultrasound video
Speaker 1: back to its original source video posted six years prior
Speaker 1: by an ultrasound company for everyone following the case online.
Speaker 1: This discovery was a bombshell, but they hardly had time
Speaker 1: to process it because Laura was sending even more quote
Speaker 1: unquote proof of her pregnancy to content creators like Dave Neil.
Speaker 7: I have a video of what Laura claims is her
Speaker 7: father in a hospital bed, in a hospital gown, rubbing
Speaker 7: Laura's belly.
Speaker 4: This ends the conversation. If it's real.
Speaker 1: This video clearly shows Laura's father, Ron Owens. I've seen
Speaker 1: a copy of it. Ron is a public figure. He's recognizable.
Speaker 1: But to Dave, several things about the video seemed off.
Speaker 7: It is a video with no sound, which, first of all,
Speaker 7: is a super red flag. When was the last time
Speaker 7: you recorded an iPhone video and turned the sound off?
Speaker 1: Laura sent the same video to Clayton again after she'd
Speaker 1: filed the risk training order against him.
Speaker 3: It was blatantly obvious that it's not her because the
Speaker 3: videos lily cut off so you can't see above the neck.
Speaker 3: That was what was so odd about it and why
Speaker 3: it instantly flagged me, and I'm like, this isn't you.
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous, Like I can't believe you just sent
Speaker 3: this to me.
Speaker 1: As Dave and his audience did more digging, they developed
Speaker 1: a theory that could explain the hospital room video.
Speaker 7: I find out that last year Laura's sister was pregnant,
Speaker 7: and then my alarms go full siren mode. It's my
Speaker 7: belief she's faking a pregnancy and using her sister's real
Speaker 7: pregnancy as cover.
Speaker 1: Dave even reached out to Laura's sister, Sarah to try
Speaker 1: to set the record straight.
Speaker 7: I've received no comment. Nobody in that inner circle would talk.
Speaker 1: Laura could no longer control the narrative when she initially
Speaker 1: reached out to the tabloids asking them to cover her story.
Speaker 1: I don't think she anticipated that she herself would be
Speaker 1: scrutinized in the public eye. I don't think she imagined
Speaker 1: that the online sleuths would analyze her videos frame by frame.
Speaker 1: But what had begun as an online discourse was about
Speaker 1: to enter.
Speaker 6: The courtroom, and how that along are you are you figure?
Speaker 3: Today?
Speaker 6: In the perspective pregnancy?
Speaker 9: I am twenty four weeks long.
Speaker 1: By October, Clayton and Laura both had filed restraining orders
Speaker 1: against the other. Technically, Clayton filed an injunction against harassment,
Speaker 1: which is what you file when it's a stranger harassing you.
Speaker 1: And yes, he said he did that to be petty,
Speaker 1: but it functions nearly the same as a restraining order.
Speaker 1: Over a period of a week, they would both be
Speaker 1: in court for their restraining order hearings.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, maybe peta.
Speaker 1: Laura attended the first hearing virtually with her lawyer present
Speaker 1: in the courtroom. Clayton appeared pro sae, meaning he represented himself.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the cash on hand to hire Woodnik,
Speaker 1: the lawyer he'd been connected with.
Speaker 3: I walk in there and I have my briefcase. I
Speaker 3: printed off all these documents and I'm like, this is
Speaker 3: my time.
Speaker 1: Laura was on zoom, standing up in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: She looked very pregnant. She told the court she was
Speaker 1: six months long. In the video of this hearing, it
Speaker 1: looks like she's wearing a nude, long sleeved body suit
Speaker 1: underneath her tank top. It was widely speculated online that
Speaker 1: she could be wearing a fake pregnant belly.
Speaker 3: For hearing the matter of Clayton Eckhart.
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Speaker 17: having alone state their name, Jack, if your name.
Speaker 1: Once the hearing got underway, Clayton quickly realized he might
Speaker 1: be in over his head.
Speaker 3: I have no idea like how the court runs. So
Speaker 3: I'm over here and I'm raising my hand at points.
Speaker 3: The judge is like, very kind to me. I'm like, Jade,
Speaker 3: what are you doing here without a lawyer.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Clayton did a pretty good job of representing himself,
Speaker 1: but there was one small problem.
Speaker 7: Dave Neil explains, Laura's attorney tried to hand Clayton a
Speaker 7: USB drive of information and Clayton goes, I don't have
Speaker 7: a laptop with me. I wasn't prepared for this, and
Speaker 7: the judge gave Clayton the best gift in the world.
Speaker 7: The judge said, We're gonna pause this and we'll come
Speaker 7: back a week later.
Speaker 1: And as the judge was looking for a date on
Speaker 1: the calendar to continue the hearing, Laura piped in over zoom.
Speaker 1: What you're about to hear is the courtroom audio from
Speaker 1: this moment.
Speaker 9: Your honor.
Speaker 10: Is it possible for me to show Clayton that I
Speaker 10: am in fact pregnant because he hasn't seen me.
Speaker 1: No Laura had been showing the camera her belly the
Speaker 1: whole time.
Speaker 7: When you kind of really read between the lines, see
Speaker 7: that she's standing for ninety minutes, she's I got a
Speaker 7: standing desk. She continues to reframe things so that it
Speaker 7: shows to belly.
Speaker 1: Right after the hearing was adjourned.
Speaker 3: I get a text from Dave Neil and he's like, hey,
Speaker 3: you do good there, And I was like what.
Speaker 4: He's like, wait, you were in there, and I was like, bubba,
Speaker 4: we all were in there.
Speaker 1: Clayton didn't realize it, but this hearing had been live streamed.
Speaker 1: Thousands of strangers who'd become interested in this case had
Speaker 1: been watching it live.
Speaker 7: That was the most watched family court case in that
Speaker 7: county's history.
Speaker 1: Probably word of the live stream had reached Reddit, where
Speaker 1: the links circulated rapidly, drawing a massive crowd of eager viewers.
Speaker 4: So was at that moment where I said, Clayton, we
Speaker 4: got to help you.
Speaker 1: The help Clayton needed was legal representation, but at the
Speaker 1: time he couldn't afford it. Dave and his online community
Speaker 1: were ready to jump in.
Speaker 7: I said to Clayton, let me know when I can
Speaker 7: turn on this GoFundMe everyone wants to support you, and
Speaker 7: Clayton had a lot of pride.
Speaker 4: He didn't want to ask for help he needed it.
Speaker 1: After some back and forth, Clayton agreed to let Dave
Speaker 1: Neil crowd fund for his legal fees. Overnight, they raised
Speaker 1: enough money to cover the rest of his proceedings. But
Speaker 1: things were moving faster than Clayton could keep up with,
Speaker 1: because the very next day he and Laura were both
Speaker 1: doing court again for Laura's restraining order hearing against Clayton.
Speaker 1: Since it had been less than twenty four hours, Clayton
Speaker 1: was still representing himself, and this time Laura appeared in person.
Speaker 1: She wore a black and white striped sweater that highlighted
Speaker 1: her visible pregnancy. The central point during this hearing was
Speaker 1: a specific photograph of Laura that had surfaced on Reddit.
Speaker 1: A photo of her had been turned in to one
Speaker 1: of those Halloween costume memes, and Laura was offended by
Speaker 1: it again. This is audio from their hearing. It starts
Speaker 1: with Laura talking.
Speaker 18: So Exhibit eleven is a screen grab of a Reddit
Speaker 18: thread saying how to win the Scariest costume Contest? And
Speaker 18: it's me turned showing my stomach and it's me holding
Speaker 18: a sonogram of our son.
Speaker 9: That only he had possession of.
Speaker 10: So he clearly made this up of me, which obviously
Speaker 10: was offensive.
Speaker 1: Whoever made this meme photoshopped the sonogram in as if
Speaker 1: Laura was holding it. Laura testified that Clayton was the
Speaker 1: only recipient of the sonogram, implying he was the only
Speaker 1: one who could have posted this meme. However, multiple sources
Speaker 1: have told me they saw the sonogram in the drop
Speaker 1: box folder of evidence Laura posted on rede it. I
Speaker 1: can't confirm that because the link has since been deleted,
Speaker 1: but Clayton denies that he posted the Halloween meme. Furthermore,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the possibility remained that Laura could have
Speaker 1: fabricated the post herself. Despite these inconsistencies, the judge ultimately
Speaker 1: ruled in Laura's favor.
Speaker 19: She said, you're the only person that she sent it to.
Speaker 19: I realize it's possible that she could have sent it
Speaker 19: to somebody else who could have published it, and then
Speaker 19: I have to decide which she really want to do
Speaker 19: that because it's not the most flattering picture that obviously,
Speaker 19: when a person's pregnant, you know their body changes and
Speaker 19: It's something that I don't believe that she would have
Speaker 19: wanted to share, and this depiction not only showed her,
Speaker 19: but it was poking fun at her.
Speaker 1: The judge claimed the photo of Laura was so unflattering
Speaker 1: that she would not have sent it to anyone else
Speaker 1: or posted it anywhere. It was mind blowing for me
Speaker 1: to hear this from a judge, but that was his
Speaker 1: final decision, and on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: Laura was successfully granted an order of protection against Clayton.
Speaker 1: As Clayton prepared for his follow uppearing the next week,
Speaker 1: he utilized the funds from Dave Neil's audience to retain
Speaker 1: professional legal representation.
Speaker 7: We were hoping to get him the attorney that could
Speaker 7: crack this thing. And of course that's Greg Woodnick. I
Speaker 7: mean Greg Woodnick. He knew the game plan.
Speaker 1: He knew the game plan because he had represented the
Speaker 1: other victim of Laura Owens a couple years prior. But
Speaker 1: because of what he knew, he wasn't immediately ready to
Speaker 1: jump back in. Here's Woodnick.
Speaker 15: I was feeling really bad because I knew what he
Speaker 15: was about to go through. I was remembering what had
Speaker 15: happened with greg. I was remembering what I had learned
Speaker 15: at that point, and I didn't really want to get
Speaker 15: involved with her again.
Speaker 1: While the weight of the decision took a toll on him,
Speaker 1: he was supported by the expertise of Deandra Arena, a
Speaker 1: fellow family law attorney.
Speaker 15: At some point, DeAndre walks into my office and she
Speaker 15: says to me, are you sure you don't want to
Speaker 15: help him?
Speaker 3: I said, no, I'm not sure I.
Speaker 15: Don't want to help him. I do, and I also
Speaker 15: realize what is happening to him and how bad it is,
Speaker 15: and I think at that point DeAndre said to me,
Speaker 15: what if I help him? And I said seriously, and
Speaker 15: she said yeah. She said, what if I just help
Speaker 15: him with the balance of this protective order thing? We
Speaker 15: just represent him kind of one and done. Let me
Speaker 15: go in there and help him clean this mess up.
Speaker 1: Here's Deandra.
Speaker 11: I said, listen, I think we all know that she
Speaker 11: needs to be cross examined by a woman who understands
Speaker 11: the ins and outs of pregnancy. And I had been
Speaker 11: recently pregnant, so I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 4: I can do this.
Speaker 3: We'll just do this.
Speaker 11: One case, this one injunction against her ask me hearing
Speaker 11: and will be.
Speaker 15: Out and I said, have at it, and so I
Speaker 15: think at that point DeAndre and I agreed to represent Clayton,
Speaker 15: but DeAndre was going to handle the hearing and she
Speaker 15: did did a wonderful job.
Speaker 1: For their third hearing, Laura appeared virtually once again, though
Speaker 1: this time her pregnancy was not visible on camera and
Speaker 1: she wore a black turtleneck. Clayton appeared in the courtroom
Speaker 1: with his new attorney, Deandra.
Speaker 11: I remember thinking, how do I make this clear? Like,
Speaker 11: what is the one point that I can make for
Speaker 11: another woman or even a man who has had a
Speaker 11: pregnant sister or wife, whatever, who's been through that process
Speaker 11: to really understand this is weird.
Speaker 1: When Laura got on the stand, Deandra wasted no time
Speaker 1: immediately questioning Laura regarding the current status of her pregnancy and.
Speaker 6: How that along are you as you stay here today
Speaker 6: in the perspective pregnancy.
Speaker 9: I am twenty four weeks a long.
Speaker 1: Laura's testimony here would later become incredibly important.
Speaker 6: Can you please provide us with your alleged duty.
Speaker 9: February fourteenth, I've we.
Speaker 6: Sit here today not a single DNA test had come
Speaker 6: back indicating that Clayton's the father.
Speaker 10: Correct, The samples were diluted, and I'm going back next month, is.
Speaker 6: Answer, no question. It's a very simple question. I've leaved
Speaker 6: it here today. You have no DNA test that indicates
Speaker 6: that Clayton is the father, right.
Speaker 10: The results the testing is ongoing, is what I was told,
Speaker 10: as was Clayton.
Speaker 1: In the video of this hearing, you can see Laura
Speaker 1: visibly chugging a Monster Energy drink. If that was what
Speaker 1: was actually in the can. It has one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty milligrams of caffeine. That stood out to Dave Neil.
Speaker 4: My wife's pregnant.
Speaker 7: I'm making my wife DCAF coffee at most a couple
Speaker 7: milligrams here and there. You're not supposed to have caffeine.
Speaker 7: It even says it on the label of Monster, like
Speaker 7: don't drink this if you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: The scope of this hearing was not to verify Laura's pregnancy. Rather,
Speaker 1: the burden of proof rested on Clayton to demonstrate that
Speaker 1: she had been harassing him. With this objective in mind,
Speaker 1: Deandrew continued her cross examination.
Speaker 6: Mister Eckert told you he didn't want you contacting him
Speaker 6: anymore and then would block your telephone number.
Speaker 9: Correct, but told me to email him.
Speaker 6: Nick Owen either yes or no question. Isn't it true
Speaker 6: that mister Eckert indicated he did not want me contacting
Speaker 6: him anymore and then would block your telephone number.
Speaker 9: Actually, that's incorrect.
Speaker 1: It's slow going just getting Laura to acknowledge the messages
Speaker 1: she sent to Clayton.
Speaker 6: And here MTh Owens. On May twenty twenty three, Clayton
Speaker 6: said to you, I'm debating buying a police report. Please
Speaker 6: leave me alone.
Speaker 9: Correct, The context needs to be stated.
Speaker 10: He did not make I am at a dollar no question,
Speaker 10: and he was founded by he will have a time
Speaker 10: of ask.
Speaker 6: Your question again this one. So just answer her question
Speaker 6: and your attorney will ask an opportunity to question you again.
Speaker 1: With every question, Laura's agitation becomes increasingly apparent. I ask
Speaker 1: Deandra what it was like to cross examine Laura.
Speaker 8: There are times where I remind her that these are
Speaker 8: yes or no questions, and you can tell that you
Speaker 8: know she's not an easy witness to cross examine candidly.
Speaker 1: As the hearing continues, Laura is visibly rolling her eyes, sighing,
Speaker 1: shaking her head laughing and throwing her head back.
Speaker 11: I've done a lot of bench trials.
Speaker 8: I don't recall seeing her reaction like that more than
Speaker 8: maybe one or two other times.
Speaker 1: Then it came time for closing arguments. Here's Deandre's audio
Speaker 1: from the hearing.
Speaker 6: She's not being truthful today, and my client was fearful
Speaker 6: of what else she's capable of. He's asking that this
Speaker 6: court recognized that he has done everything to handle this appropriately.
Speaker 6: He has begged and pleaded with her to stop contacting him.
Speaker 6: There is no reason for these two to have communication.
Speaker 6: Despite what Miss Owens will say regarding his alleged pregnancy,
Speaker 6: there is no proven pregnancy at this point. So we
Speaker 6: are asking that this court finds that she has harassed
Speaker 6: mister Eckert from May of twenty twenty three up until
Speaker 6: today's date. And we're asking that the court finds that
Speaker 6: the injunction against harassment needs to be ordered and maintained.
Speaker 1: When the judge finally gave her ruling.
Speaker 17: As I say that when we first started this hearing,
Speaker 17: I'm not making a determination as to whether or not
Speaker 17: she is pregnant or not. The communications that I have
Speaker 17: a lot of concerns with are the ones where she's
Speaker 17: trying to make offers to him to continue a relationship
Speaker 17: that she is trying to facilitate if you do this
Speaker 17: and I'll give you this. Those kinds of messages are
Speaker 17: of the nature that are harassing and can be viewed
Speaker 17: as annoying or harassing. There are a number of threats
Speaker 17: to go to the media, which were other additional attempts
Speaker 17: to try to use the media as manipulation or the
Speaker 17: threat to go to the media as manipulation, and I
Speaker 17: find those to be alarming, annoying, her harassing. So I
Speaker 17: am going to grant the injunction at this time. Faction
Speaker 17: is going to prevent any communication outside of the legal process.
Speaker 1: As Clayton walked out of the courtroom, he repeatedly thanked
Speaker 1: his lawyer Deandra.
Speaker 3: We end up winning, she won for me, and she's like, Clayton,
Speaker 3: hopefully this is like the end of it. Frenalogly, she's
Speaker 3: not going to be able to bother you anymore. So
Speaker 3: I was like, thank you. It should be quiet from
Speaker 3: here now, and if it's not, she'll get arrested.
Speaker 1: Given everything you've learned about Laura so far, you're probably
Speaker 1: expecting her to continue her relentless pursuit of Clayton. Instead,
Speaker 1: she felt uncharacteristically silent, a stillness that proved to be
Speaker 1: even more unsettling than the noise. In the silence, this
Speaker 1: scandal would take on a new dimension. Hundreds, even thousands
Speaker 1: more strangers would get involved, and they would uncover so
Speaker 1: much more about Laura Owens.
Speaker 7: Good morning everybody in our featured story, bachelor Clayton eckered
Speaker 7: and the lady that accused him of being the father
Speaker 7: of her unborn twins.
Speaker 1: Who would make this up? Well, Laura Owens, that's who
Speaker 1: would make it up. My money was on U nine
Speaker 1: one one phone call. She was going to be in
Speaker 1: an ambulance on the way to the hospital, and I
Speaker 1: was right.
Speaker 7: I'm sent all of this from Reddit community, from people
Speaker 7: in my audience. They find this stuff before I even can't.
Speaker 9: This is the greatest program in the history of YouTube.
Speaker 9: It was like the smoking gun of the entire case
Speaker 9: discovered live.
Speaker 4: Reddits were getting taken down.
Speaker 13: She's so screwed because people are watching and they're not
Speaker 13: going to allow it to happen.
Speaker 7: And if he wasn't famous enough to have a Sun
Speaker 7: article written about him, she would have gotten away with it.
Speaker 4: A thousand percent tic.
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