1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wika EPI Daily with 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from the 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, it is now the second week of 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: January that we are entering into day ten of the 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: new year, and like I reported at the end of 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: last week or at least the middle of last week 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, the mainstream news has 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: decided to start reporting on the same thing, which is 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the variant that we said last week was discovered in 10 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Greece referred to as what delta cron, which is the 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: combo effect of the delta variant and omicron. Now, initially 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: there was one case that was reported in Israel, is 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: the same place that reported the first case of flu rona. 14 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Israel is also the place where they are beginning to 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: administer the fourth booster shot, where many of the world, 16 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: much of the world. You have to remember, as we 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: are talking about booster shots and vaccine rollouts and all 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: of these things, that Israel is on its fourth shot, 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: where many parts of the world still haven't received their first. 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: That is how imbalanced, how unjust the vaccine rollout has 21 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: been around the world. I digress though, because here we 22 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: are now just a couple of days pasted our conversation 23 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: that we had with Jonathan where we brought up these 24 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: two new words that I said that I did not 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: want to learn, delta con and fleur rona. And now 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: we have cases of fleur rona since that initial reporting 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: that have been discovered in the United States. And now 28 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: we have more cases of deltacron which has now been 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: discovered in Greece on the island of Cyprus. Now why 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: does this matter? Because the reality is that we are 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: very far. If you're listening to all of the doctors 32 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks, as the beginning of 33 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: this surge has come, and we are we don't even 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: know where we are. I mean, that's the reality is that, folks. 35 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Like, first of all, I'm wearing 36 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: no makeup today because I have a allergy that I 37 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: have developed to my makeup. And maybe it's just COVID 38 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the fact that I haven't worn makeup in such a 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: long time when we were in lockdown that now when 40 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: I do, my skin starts to break out if I 41 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: don't take it off immediately right after I put it on. 42 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Very odd. Nonetheless, why do I say all these things? 43 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Because I just have to take a pause as I'm 44 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: talking about these two new variants, and some days, I 45 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: got to tell you, some days feel more normal than others. 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that it's important to name 47 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: these things because we all keep being forced, you know, 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: by the virtue of work, by the virtue of capitalism, 49 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: by the virtue of you know, the CDC that is 50 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: not really about protecting our public health but really about 51 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: getting people back in the workplace or making sure that 52 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: they never leave. To really wrap our minds around what's 53 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: happening right now and what what what the fuck is 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: really happening. What's happening is that we are living in 55 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: a global health pandemic that the world has not that 56 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: our world governments have not gotten a fucking hold of 57 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: that because of coming out of the gate and making 58 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: this a political issue, whether it was attacking the Chinese 59 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: like the Trump administration did, and whether or not the 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Chinese government is at fault for how soon they flag 61 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: the initial alpha variant back in twenty twenty to the world. 62 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Who knows and at this point, who fucking cares? Right, 63 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: because we have mutated, we have had so many other 64 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: variants since then. And here we are at the beginning 65 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: of December. We just learned about amicron. We are in 66 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: week two, just beginning week two of twenty twenty two, 67 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: and we are talking about not one, but two new variants. 68 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Now for the mainstream media, who is doing not the 69 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: best fucking job of one keeping people's anxiety down and 70 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: two weaving through the bullshit in a way that makes 71 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: people feel like they can come to you for information. 72 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: The fact is we are very fa are from COVID 73 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: becoming endemic, meaning that more people will become infected, more 74 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: people will sadly die right before this becomes like the 75 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: common cold or the flu. Right. And the fact is 76 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: what is keeping me up and the reason why I 77 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: am back in the Brooklyn bunker, and I recognize this. 78 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: I was having this conversation the other day with a 79 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: friend of mine, and I said, New York is very 80 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: different in terms of how New Yorkers, and I think, 81 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: particularly people in the city, which are very different than 82 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: the fucking people that I grew up with on Long Island. Right. 83 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: So New York City was the epicenter in twenty twenty 84 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: for COVID, Right, We're the epicenter for omicron, Right, We're 85 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the epicenter for everything by virtue of the millions of 86 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: millions of people that live here in such a small space, right, 87 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: So things that will come are going to come here 88 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: because of our international and transit community as well as 89 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: those you know, the cramped spaces in terms of like 90 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of landmasks and there's a lot 91 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: of people, and so things are going to a communicable disease, right, 92 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: is going to spread like fucking gangbusters in an area 93 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: as densely populated as New York City. And so I 94 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: say that to say that there is a deep post 95 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: traumatic stress from twenty twenty of the early days of lockdown, 96 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: when all you heard on the streets of New York 97 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: City were sirens, were ambulances there. Every business was closed down, 98 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: everything was shut down. All the iconic areas that you're 99 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: used to seeing in movies and on television that are 100 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, runam up with tourists and New York as alike, 101 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: were eerily quiet, right empty. And so I can always 102 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: tell how things are trending with the virus by virtue 103 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: of just being in New York over the summer right 104 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: in spring and summer of twenty twenty one, there was 105 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: this feeling we had become newly vaccinated. There was this 106 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: feeling that life was beginning to return to the city, 107 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and I mean life had continued to churn. Right, There 108 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: are millions of people that are here. There are thousands 109 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: that left, right, The wealthy left, and they left for 110 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: their summer homes or their winter homes and got rid 111 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: of their New York City homes. And then there was 112 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: this like small little bubble, and now right, rent is 113 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: back skyrocketing, as well as mortgages and all of these things. 114 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: But you can always tell how things are trending when 115 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: I walk out of my apartment, when I'm walking around 116 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: my neighborhood. In the spring and summer, there was this 117 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: sense that we were going to be able to return 118 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to a new normal, right, a new abnormal where you 119 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: could walk into a restaurant and now not only did 120 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: you need to have reservations, but you also need to 121 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: be able to show proof of vaccination, and that you 122 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: were only going to be able to eat inside and 123 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: go to the gym, and go get your haircut and 124 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: go to certain places if in fact, you had proof 125 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: of vaccination in other places obviously, like the supermarket, pharmacies 126 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: and what have you. Doesn't matter, you're not sitting down 127 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: at a table, opening up, taking off your mask and 128 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: having droplets everywhere. But I had noticed that, you know, 129 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: we had gotten to a place where New York City's 130 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: vaccination rates were so high that folks felt like they 131 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: could take off their mass when they were walking down 132 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: the street and kind of like not scoot to the 133 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: other side of the sidewalk, which is really fucking difficult 134 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: to do in some very busy parts of the Burrows. 135 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: But as as like this this surge as winter began 136 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: to come, as the seasons began to change, and we 137 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: went from summer into fall, and then in early winter, 138 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it was like I started to see people wearing their 139 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: masks again. Outside. I started to see the outdoor dining 140 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: places still really full, right, but then now starting to 141 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: weed out one because it's colder, but because two people 142 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: in New York are self are putting together a self 143 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: imposed lockdown for the privilege that we're supposed to return 144 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: to work or their jobs completely changed, and now they're 145 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: just totally remote, right, Like they're just staying home and 146 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing as you're walking around. You know, the regular 147 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: shops are open obviously, but like the restaurants aren't as full, 148 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: and people are back to wearing their full masks on 149 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the street and giving each other space right as you're walking. 150 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: That to me tells us this is far from being 151 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: fucking endemic. Right now. We have these seasons of death 152 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: in this country, and that's just something that is so 153 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: mind boggling that for the past two years we've been 154 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: turning on cable news and watching a death ticker. Just 155 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: think about that for a fucking moment, right And the 156 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: fact that it has become so normalized that we just 157 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: talk about, well, fifteen hundred people died today or six 158 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people are infected today. The things that have 159 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: become normalized in the last two years are so goddamn 160 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: unsettling that there are some days and moments like this 161 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: past weekend, where I just sit back and I'm like, 162 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: what the fuck does the end look like? Right? Like, 163 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: can we even begin to imagine what the end could 164 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: possibly look like? When we are smack dab in the 165 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: middle of an incredible surge where everybody wants to continue 166 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: to tell us that you know, don't worry. The symptoms 167 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: are mild and blah blah. Yet our hospitals are at 168 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: a breaking point, some are breaking right. And now we 169 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: have two new goddamn variants, Delta cron and flew RONA. 170 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, is this how we all go out? Like? 171 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: It's not a comment, It's not Aliens right like it. 172 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: It's not the movie The Day After Tomorrow when there's 173 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: the flood and the storm and everything and it's you know, 174 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: perfect chaos at one time? Is it? This? Is it 175 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: that we're just all sitting around back, you know, self 176 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: sheltered on pins and needles, waiting for them to make 177 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: the announcement that oh, here's the super of super variants 178 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 1: that now evades all the fucking vaccines, all of the boosters. 179 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: You can't touch shit, you can't go outside, and like 180 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: this is it? I just, you know, sometimes I really 181 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: look around. I look around my own apartment, and I 182 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: think about how much life has changed. I think about 183 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: how normal it is now to you know, instead of 184 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: make phone calls, you're on face time with people, right like, oh, 185 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: let's just hop on a zoom And how having folks 186 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: in your home much like you guys are right now 187 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: in my living room has become the norm. I remember 188 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: watching sci fi movies and seeing people. You know, we 189 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: don't have the holograms, that's not popping up in our homes. 190 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: But when you look at technology, when you look at 191 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: the way that this pandemic has changed the way that 192 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: we fundamentally relate with one another, right, Like when you 193 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: can say, hey, friend, do you want to do a 194 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: happy hour? And they're like ooh, virtual or in person? 195 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Like we were not saying that in twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen. Right, 196 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: we move into the twenty twenties, into this new decade, 197 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: and it is a new It's like one new crisis 198 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: after the other. And I think sometime we're just trying 199 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: our best to get by, to make do that it's 200 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: even too much for us to allow our minds to 201 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: think about how drastically fucking different everything is now, And 202 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I say take a pause because it's overwhelming. You know, 203 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, today is January tenth, It is ten 204 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: days into this new year, and we have two new variants? 205 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: What the fuck is it going to look like in 206 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: the spring? Now? The good news, right, the good news 207 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: is this is that what I believe. And I'm not 208 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: a doctor or a scientist, and I don't pretend to 209 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: be one. I just pretend to be somebody that, like 210 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, analyzes the world and looks at it through 211 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: a multiple of different perspectives. And what I am seeing, 212 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: at least, what the last two years is showing us, right, 213 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: is that we are going to have these seasons of 214 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: death where life is going to feel somewhat renewed and 215 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: refreshed and normal, right, And I use heavy quotations with that, 216 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: and normal for a couple of months, right, roughly probably 217 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: from April until you know, until the beginning of the 218 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Christmas holiday mash up. So you'll have April, May, June, July, August, September, October, 219 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: you'll have, right roughly like half the year that seems 220 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: relatively normal. You'll go out to eat, you'll you know, 221 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: eat outside, you'll see more people, and then we will 222 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: have these seasons where for three to four months, for 223 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: those of us who genuinely follow science and believe doctors 224 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and you know, and want to preserve as much as 225 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: we can our own physical emotional health and wellbeing will 226 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: probably self sequester for those months right where it's you're 227 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: not going to go out, You're not going to go 228 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to the new restaurant and eat indoors. And it is 229 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: fundamentally shifted how we engage, how we show up with people, 230 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: how we create community with people, but how we engage 231 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: on a day to day. And sometimes I'm just like, 232 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: we need to just fucking take a pause, take a beat, 233 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: and give ourselves credit for how adaptable we have been 234 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: to fucking crazy this. It is nuts. I walk out 235 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: of my apartment and I'm looking around and some days 236 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm like the security that I feel that there are 237 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: people that at least live in my immediate community who 238 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: were all massed up. And of course now the other 239 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: thing too, is that all the masks have changed. Right 240 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: where we all thought we were going to be cute, 241 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: show parts of our personality, you know, try and add 242 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: some you know, bit of flare to a situation that 243 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: seems so dire. Well, now we're all just in K 244 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: ninety five mass if in fact you can afford it 245 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: or find them and they're not counterfeit. But it's just, 246 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, I want us to give ourselves credit for 247 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: how much we are adapting to times that are so 248 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: completely and totally out of our control, that we are 249 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: still going to work right where there is no relief 250 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: and mental health days and time to really just like gather, 251 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: I saw this meme and this is what prompted today's 252 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: show opening, you know, and it was like, you know, 253 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be funny, right, like lighthearted, and it 254 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the difference between you know, our 255 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: two cells. It's like pre twenty twenty, I used to 256 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: feel and this is the meme mashed up, but it's 257 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: like I used to be able to go to work 258 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: for you know, eight to nine hours, go out for 259 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: drinks with friends, go to a work event, circle back 260 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: to work the next the next day, do it all 261 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: over again, have commitments on the weekends, like just we 262 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: were moving right, we were doing things, and then they're 263 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: like and me today, it's like a struggle just to 264 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: get through, like just eight hours of work and you're 265 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: working from home. And while like the meme in and 266 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: of itself is supposed to be funny, like how much 267 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: we were doing versus how much we can do. But 268 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: what's lost in the in between of that and of 269 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: that translation is the fact that the weight of everything 270 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: has become so much right, Like we are on edge, 271 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: and I don't think that we fully consciously are aware 272 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: of what that anxiety and what that stress is doing 273 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: to our bodies. Right. Like, sure people want to talk about, oh, 274 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen, talking about like weight that they have 275 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: put on and this, that and the other thing, and 276 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: weight is like not even half of it. I'm talking 277 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: about the emotional weight. I'm talking about some days not 278 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: wanting to get out of bed, not wanting to get 279 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: off of the couch, to go to the kitchen or 280 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: to go into your office or your basement or wherever 281 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: to go and do work, that it's so difficult to 282 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: be able to function and focus on rudimentary task like 283 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: everything is normal. Meanwhile, you're also glued to the headlines 284 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: in Twitter to make sure that we didn't go to 285 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: war today, to make sure that there isn't a new 286 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: variant that you missed, or a CDC guideline that seems 287 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: like bullshit, or like some far right attack or another 288 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: person being killed that you video that is circulating, or 289 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: some other disaster that is impending. It's all of the 290 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: impending doom of it all that makes us feel like 291 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: holy shit, just answering an email, clearing out an inbox, right, 292 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: getting done with one or two tasks a week now 293 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: feels like something we need to applaud, and frankly, we 294 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: fucking should because if you were to go back in time, 295 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: and let me tell you, I started watching this terrible 296 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: show on Amazon Prime and maybe you all have finished 297 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: it called Solos, and it's like a sigh by, you know, 298 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: futuristic show where each of the characters and each of 299 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: the actors it's just them for the entire episode. So 300 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: think about the movie Castaway with Tom Hanks and it 301 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: just being him and Wilson the fucking ball. This is 302 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: a similar type thing, but it's like very meta. Anyway. 303 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: I say that to say that in one of the 304 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: episodes that Anne Hathaway was in, she was trying to 305 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: jump to the future, right. She wanted to get out 306 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: of the present situation of her life that had her 307 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: mother dying and excruciating death, that had her just so 308 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: stressed out and depressed and miserable, and so she just 309 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: wanted to project literally come up with this coding and 310 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: algorithm to get herself to the future so that this 311 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: current reality she was existing in wouldn't be real that 312 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: the alternate dimension her her in the future could fix 313 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: her currently and that and all I kept thinking about 314 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: to myself is that I have those moments. I have 315 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: those moments nowadays where I am just like I want 316 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: to be projected into the future, but the future just 317 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: doesn't seem that bright. But I want to be projected 318 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: into the ending of all of this madness. And what 319 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: troubles me, folks, and I don't mean to start your 320 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: week out like this, but what troubles me is that 321 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if this Sometimes things don't always get better, 322 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: or sometimes better is not necessarily what we're hoping for, 323 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Like we're hoping for just blanket relief and going back 324 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: to normal. And I don't think that we ever go 325 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: back to pre COVID days, right Like I even think 326 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that even if things were done tomorrow, I think the scars, 327 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: the emotional scars of what we have all been through, 328 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: will persist, and we'll have forever changed. The way that 329 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: we interact with each other, the way that we see 330 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: each other, the way that we interact with work, our environment. 331 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I think it's forever changing, and it's changing so rapidly, 332 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: And so I just offered that if you feel unstable 333 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: some days, Like you feel goodish on a Monday, but 334 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: by Friday you're like, what, Like, what is this I'm 335 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: living in? Understand that you are not alone, that you know, 336 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I do feel like we are living inside some 337 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: fucked up matrix right where it's like we're just all 338 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: supposed to pretend that everything is kumbaya, that all is well, 339 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: and that if you draw attention to the things that 340 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: are at fault or that are crazy, then you're the 341 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: one that's labeled. Right, Like, that's what the right is 342 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: doing right now with their collective gaslight of the country. 343 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: One six didn't happen. COVID is blown out of control, 344 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with the environment, the economy is solid, 345 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: like all is well. Right, Meanwhile they're staging a fucking 346 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: fascist authoritarian coup every single day, right. The stress is real. 347 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: So I just say to you, you know, as I 348 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: will remind myself to give yourself daily grace, meditate, prey, garden, walk, yoga, 349 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is that allows you in positive ways. Look, 350 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: I love cocktails. Everybody who knows me knows that I 351 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: am trying on a regular basis for that not to 352 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: be my go to exhale, which is why I have 353 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: a regular meditation practice, which is why I need you know. 354 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: This week is starting me back on my daily exercise regimen, 355 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: and just because it takes a lot these days to 356 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: keep it all together, and so it's okay when we 357 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: fall off, when we decide that we're not getting up 358 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: that day, that is fine too. I just want folks 359 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: to know that you are not alone in trying to 360 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: make sense of insanity, and that they're just sometimes you 361 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: just can't make sense of it. All you can do 362 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: is do what you can do to keep yourself safe, 363 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: those around you that you love safe and healthy, and 364 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: that be the success of the day, of what the 365 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: daily successes look like. I think that not only do 366 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: we need to get rid of this idea that we're 367 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to quote go back to normal, 368 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: but I also think that we need to get rid 369 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: of these predefined ideals of what success looks like, because success, 370 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: what success looked like for you in twenty nineteen, is 371 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: not going to be the same thing that success looks 372 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty two. And I think that if 373 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: we're honest with ourselves and the people around us about that, 374 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: then we'll be able to maneuver, be nimble in ways 375 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: that help us to not only deal with this moment, 376 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: but to find ways to thrive in it as well. 377 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: Coming up next, folks, is my conversation with our good, 378 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: good friend Glenn Kirshner, MSNBC legal analysts and the host 379 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: of Justice Matters. We are going to delve into the 380 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: current sentences that were released for some of the seven 381 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: hundred plus insurrectionists that have been picked up Merritt Garland's 382 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: speech and what Glenn thought about that and whether not 383 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: this is signaling that the Justice Department actually has a 384 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: spine and is going to do something and much much more. Folks, 385 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: you know that I have been dying for my first 386 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: conversation with our next guest in the new year, Len Kirshner, 387 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: MSNBC analyst and the host of Justice Matters. Glenn, the 388 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: only person that I wanted to talk to following a g. 389 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland's press conference on January fifth, was you. I 390 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: have been dying to hear your thoughts. I tweeted mine. 391 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: I have shared mine in many different ways. It's been 392 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: how many months since we've heard from Merritt Garland and 393 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: his Justice Department many and you know, we were anticipating 394 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: I at least was anticipating some actual news. What were 395 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on his presser, So, Danielle, Happy New Year. 396 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: On the one hand, I think anything short of him 397 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: parading Donald Trump across the stage and cuffs was going 398 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: to feel like a little bit of a letdown. But 399 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: there were three things that he said that I was 400 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: really happy he did say. I was I was really 401 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: concerned that if we out nothing more than we will 402 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: follow the evidence in the law wherever it leads us. 403 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's like saying we will breathe in and 404 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: then we will breathe out. Yet we know that. But 405 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: here here are the three things that he said that 406 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. One, we will hold January six perpetrators 407 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: accountable at any level, because thus far they've been pretty good. 408 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: We can definitely talk about some of the lenient sentences, 409 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: but they've been pretty good. Holding the folks at the 410 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: lowest level, on the bottom rung of the criminal ladder, 411 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's foot soldiers of the insurrection. They've been holding 412 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: them accountable by the hundreds, but they haven't held anybody 413 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: accountable in the middle level or in the upper level 414 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: of of the criminal ladder. So I'm glad we heard 415 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: we will hold people accountable at any level. I'm also 416 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: glad I heard that we will hold people accountable whether 417 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: they were at the capitol that day or not, because 418 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: we know some of the criminals, at least on the 419 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: sort of middle rung of the criminal ladder, the Bannons, 420 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: the Juliani's, they were enjoying the cushy environs of the 421 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: Willard Hotel planning and plotting democracy's demise. They weren't at 422 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: the Capitol on January sixth. We know that there were 423 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: corrupt and treasonist lawyers like John Eastman and Jeffrey Clark 424 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: who were not at the capitol, but they are just 425 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: as responsible for the concerted effort, the conspiracy to try 426 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: to overthrow our democracy. So the fact that he said, 427 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: and this was a little bit of a show of 428 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the investigative cards, we're going to hold people accountable whether 429 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: they were at the Capitol that day or not. And 430 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: then the third thing that I thought he said that 431 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: wasn't He didn't go as far as I would have liked. 432 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: He used the w word watergate, and he didn't use 433 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: it for the factual proposition that Nixon's Watergate is a 434 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: lot like Trump's insurrection, and it is. I think the 435 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: most important distinction is that Richard Nixon wasn't trying to 436 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: bring democracy to an end and Donald Trump is. But 437 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: there are certainly some parallels, right the burglars of the 438 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: Watergate scandal were held accountable earlier than the folks who 439 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: were higher up on the criminal food chain. There's a 440 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: rough parallel there, the burglars of Watergate to the soldiers 441 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: of the insurrection. But what he what he referred to 442 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: Watergate as a vehicle to argue, is that we learned 443 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: from the lessons of Watergate that there can be but 444 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: one set of rules for the powerless and the power fault. 445 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: And so I think those three things in combination in 446 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: three different ways. He said, we will hold the powerful accountable. 447 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: So I was happy to hear that. I would have 448 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: liked to have heard some more concrete discussion of domestic terrorism, 449 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: because that's what this was. I knew he wasn't gonna say. 450 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I predicted he wouldn't even utter Donald Trump's name, which 451 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: of course he didn't, and he shouldn't divulge who he's 452 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: indicting tomorrow who the grand jury is criminally investigating a 453 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: thirty year prosecutor. I never talked about who I was 454 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: investigating or who I intended to indict tomorrow, so I 455 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: knew we wouldn't get any of that. But I think 456 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: what we got from Merrick Garland two days ago, I 457 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: think needs to be viewed in combination with what we 458 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: got from Vice President Harris and President Biden yesterday, because 459 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: I see some justice synergy going on here. And I'm 460 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: telling you, when Vice President Harris opened by combining, by 461 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: bundling together three dates, she said December seventh, nineteen forty one, 462 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: September eleventh, two thousand and one, January sixth twenty twenty one, 463 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: she didn't have to say what those three dates are. 464 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Those are three dates that will live in in to me. 465 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: And she opened with that, and she set the right tone. 466 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: And of course the dramatic difference is the first two 467 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor and the Iffact on the Bingo, they were 468 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: attacks from without by foreign enemies. The third, I'm sorry, 469 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: is the most dangerous of all, attack from within, directed 470 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: by a defeated president who was looking to unconstitutionally retain power. 471 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: So I was thrilled. I know her comments were brief 472 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: and it was something of an introduction of President Biden, 473 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that she started with that, she was 474 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: breathing fire. And then Joe Biden stepped up and talked 475 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: as forcefully about the insurrection as he could have spoken. 476 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: And listen when the President of the United States, first 477 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: of all, calls out a former president and just mf's 478 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: him based on the evidence up and down right. But 479 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: then he said, and I quote, this was an armed insurrection. 480 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've got something to handle armed insurrections because 481 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: he quoted the crime in this big, ugly blue book 482 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: of federal crimes, the United States Code. So when you 483 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: take what Merrick Garland said two days ago, what Vice 484 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: President Harris from President Biden said yesterday, you also view 485 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: it through the lens of the House Select Committee, saying 486 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: in recent days both Chairman Thompson and Vice Chair Cheney, 487 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: we will be hearing, we expect to hear from the 488 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: vice former Vice President Mike Pence, and we look forward 489 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: to his cooperation and his team is already enthusiastically assisting us. 490 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it feels like there is justice synergy. 491 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I know I always see the glasses half full, and 492 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: yet I'm always thirsty. I don't know what that means. 493 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, it means, it means something, you know. Yeah, 494 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: I think we're headed in the right direction. I really did. 495 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, whenever we think about Watergate and we think 496 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: about the fact that it was what was it, two 497 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen days right until justice was kind of 498 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: laid down, I still Glenn. I guess my frustration is 499 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: when I thought about the Garland and Press there I was. 500 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I was under the impression that he was going to 501 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: announce and we're going to have an independent council, and 502 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: like this is and this investigation, you know is, you know, 503 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: these are the steps that we are taking, this is 504 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: what we have done. I thought that we would get 505 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: more of a layout of what has happened. I appreciated 506 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: the fact that he's talking about the fifteen terabytes of information, 507 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: talking about the thousands of people that have called in 508 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: with tips, talking about the hundreds of people that have 509 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: been arrested, but they've all really been low level sentencing. 510 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: I think, what is the longest sentence that has been 511 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: laid out right now? Is it been for the QAnon 512 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: shaman right for five or six years, then they probably 513 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: won't serve that entire thing. And I just you know, 514 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: the question that I have for you is when Garland said, 515 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: initial charges are always lower, right, and then we build 516 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: from there. And I think to myself, how do you 517 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: not send a message though, with these initial with these 518 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: initial accounts that you broke into the halls of democracy. 519 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: I was happy when Biden said they defecated in these halls, right, 520 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: like I needed him to bring forth the visual in 521 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: the way that it was. It was necessary, in the 522 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: way that the New York Times had laid it out 523 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, with all of the injuries, both emotional, physical, 524 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: the brokenness, the suicides, I wanted them to lay that out. 525 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: But I said, why wouldn't you send a direct message 526 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: you broke into these halls the minimum sentence that we're 527 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: giving out for everyone ten years? How was that not? 528 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: And and again it's always to me and I have 529 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: to I look through everything with the lens that America 530 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: looks through everything, which is a racial one. I know, 531 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: and we know we've talked about it. If these were 532 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: black people, if these were Latin X people, if these 533 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: were Muslim Americans. Would we be waiting around for a 534 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: whole year for these like sentences to be to be 535 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: put down, or saying that we need to dot more 536 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: eyes and cross more teas. But we have never treated 537 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: our minority brothers and sisters fairly equitably on par with 538 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: white America. We never have, and I'm not going to 539 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: say we never will because that is our fight, right, 540 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: That is not a destination. That is a daily fight 541 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: that you and I and others will be fighting every 542 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: day for the rest of our lives. Then our children 543 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: will be fighting it, then our grandchildren will be fighting it. 544 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: Let's not fool ourselves. We'll make progress. The arc of 545 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: the moral universe continues to bend in the right direction. 546 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: I think there's been a kink in that arc that 547 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: we are trying desperately to straighten out, so it will 548 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: continue to bend in the right direction. But I have 549 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: faith that it will continue to bend in the right direction. 550 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right. There are two standards. There are 551 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: two systems of justice in policing, in the court system, 552 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: in politics, in the business community. And that is our 553 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: fight and it will always remain our fight. But when 554 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland said and I'm with you, because, yes, the 555 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: way the Department of Justice investigates is from the bottom up. 556 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: It's the way I did it when I was investigating 557 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: gang cases, rico cases, conspiracy cases. The problem is, this 558 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: circumstance is unlike every run of the mill gang or 559 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: rico investigation, and it calls for different action, dramatic action, 560 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: action that will both immediately protect our society and our 561 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: democracy in a way that you know reflects the danger 562 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: of what we just went through and what we're still facing. 563 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: So that's the part that upsets me. Don't tell me 564 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: you're treating this like every other investigation. We investigate from 565 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: the ground up. We go after the smaller fish. We've 566 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: flipped them against the medium fish. We try to get 567 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: the big fish. All bets should be off, right, I 568 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: believe right, you should make a dang statement, lock up 569 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: at least the medium level ficient, bid to flip them, 570 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: do something different because in every other investigation, democracy's future 571 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: is not hanging in the balance. So and I am 572 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: a believe me. I've been a vocal critic of Merrick 573 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: Arland and the Department of Justice. He got the Aging 574 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: Carold decision wrong. You know, there are any number of 575 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: things that they have done that I disagree with. I 576 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: don't like the pace that they've set. I don't like 577 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: the fact that they're treating this the way they treat 578 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: every other investigation. Now, I do appreciate that he said, 579 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: we will investigate, we will hold people accountable at every level, 580 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: whether there or not one standard of rules. And he 581 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: also said something that actually is really important. He said, 582 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: we will do it all consistent with the Constitution and 583 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: the civil rights of all people. That and I take 584 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: him at his word when he says that, because regardless 585 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: of how aggressively or how unconventionally you go after the insurrection, 586 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: you still need to honor the Constitution in the civil 587 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: rights of all people. But you know what you're talking 588 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: to talk, how about we start walking the walk. You know, 589 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was supposed to give a speech on January sixth, 590 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: and you know, because of Republicans pushback, Steve Bannon gave 591 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: it instead. And Donald Trump is going to give this 592 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: speech whatever he was going to say on January fifteenth, 593 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: as if the dates actually matter. But the fact to 594 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: me is that Steve Bannon is free. He's still walking 595 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: around and able to give speeches when We know what 596 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: he was a part of, and I don't even consider 597 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: him a medium level person, and he's still walking around free. 598 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro was on MSNBC literally saying that there were 599 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: one hundred Republicans that were on board. How is it 600 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: that these people are still presiding over our country, still 601 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: voting or not voting, obstructing policy, and are not in cuffs. 602 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: Somewhere we have Democratic members that right now are retiring 603 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: in droves, and one of the foundational reasons for that 604 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: they are scared to work alongside their colleagues. There are 605 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: still metal detectors up, not for possible insurrection and threat 606 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: from the outside, but from threat from the inside. So 607 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: this has already fundamentally changed the way that our government works, 608 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: and yet these people are I would imagine that if 609 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: I'm a member of Congress and I was scared for 610 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: my life on the floor of the House that day, 611 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: and these members are still walking around free, and I 612 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: know that they were on calls, I know that they 613 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: were messaging. What message does that say to them about 614 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: their safety? So absent accountability by way of criminal charges 615 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: for the middle level players and the top dogs of 616 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: the insurrection, absent accountability our democracy doesn't have a chance. 617 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: With accountability, our democracy has a chance. It's still not 618 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion that we survived this, even once we 619 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: start locking up the Navarros, the Bannons, the Juliani's, the 620 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: Don Don Trump seniors, the Don Trump juniors, the Eastman's, 621 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: the Clarks, all of them, the Mark Meadows. They I 622 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: do believe they will be charged in one big old conspiracy. 623 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Department of Justice is 624 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: working toward. Watergate took as much as two and a 625 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: half years to finally convict the top rung criminals, and 626 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: of course, horrifically, Richard Nixon got away with it because 627 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: of an ill advised presidential pardon, which set the stage 628 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Don't don't think for a minute Donald 629 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: Trump didn't look at Richard Nixon and say, whoa, whoa, whoa. 630 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: If I can get myself elected, I can commit all 631 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: the crime I want, and while in office, I get 632 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: to hold up the presidency as a shield against prosecution 633 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: because my underlings at the Department of Justice say that 634 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: you can't indict a sitting criminal president. And then once 635 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm probably not going to get prosecuted. And 636 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: if I am I'm going to get pardoned, where do 637 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: I sign up? I mean, I hope we've learned that 638 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: lesson from Watergate, and I think if we didn't learn it, 639 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: and shame on us, we don't deserve to continue forward. 640 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: We don't. You know, we have but a handful of months. 641 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: And this is the last question I want to ask you. 642 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: We have a handful of months until midterms. Midterms is 643 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: in November. Right. We already have members of the House 644 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party saying that they are going to pursue impeachment 645 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. Right, this is a this is a 646 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: tip for taft that they're doing. We're going to go 647 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: after you. It is not looking good that Democrats will 648 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: hold on to the Senate or the House, right And 649 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: I know that again, I know that the Department of 650 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: Justice is supposed to be separate. But how do you 651 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: foresee a way for them to continue to power through 652 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: with Republicans who are most certainly, most certainly going to 653 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: be hauling Merrick Garland, hauling members of the Department of 654 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Justice in as soon as they're able to get the 655 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: gavels back, and asking them to just to slow down, 656 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: come up the process and make it look like a 657 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: partisan side show. How do they navigate through that? So 658 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: articles of impeachment and I hate to even articulate this 659 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: as a foregone conclusion, but articles of impeachment will be 660 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: drafted up by a Republican controlled House for Joe Biden, 661 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: for Merrick Garland. They will start issuing frivolous obstructionists sub 662 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: poenis to everybody at the Department of Justice, as you say, 663 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: trying to come up the works. They will hold draconian 664 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: oversight hearings, They will defund DOJ to the extent it 665 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: will help them interfere corruptly in ongoing criminal investigations and prosecutions. 666 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: That's why criminal charges need to come now, in the 667 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: coming weeks or in the next couple of months. I 668 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: believe Merrick Garland, and I hear rumblings. I mean that 669 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: statement that he made was also to assuage the concerns 670 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: of many, many men, any of the people inside the 671 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: Department of Justice who want to start charging corrupt high 672 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: government and former high government officials. I believe it's going 673 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: to happen, and if it doesn't happen, we're done. If 674 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: it does happen. I think that will go a long 675 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: way to tamping down the idiots who run around continuing 676 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: to spout off the big life because they've seen nobody's 677 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: been held accountable for it. It will change the narrative, 678 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: and it will change it dramatically once indictments start to drop. 679 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: I can't see how they don't ask the Grand Jury 680 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: to return the mother of all conspiracy indictments against Donald 681 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: Trump and everybody who tried to assist him in overthrowing 682 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: our government, in overturning the results of the presidential election. 683 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: Those indictments have to come. That is not a guarantee 684 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: that we survive, but boy, it goes a long way 685 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: to helping us survive. I think it does as well. 686 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: And Glenn, I just I appreciate you. I'm so happy 687 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: to have you back in this New Years just a 688 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: few days in to twenty twenty two, and I think 689 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: that we are in for a ride, and I appreciate 690 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: you always being one of our guides on that ride. 691 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, See you next week. That is 692 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: it for me. Dear friends today on this woke a 693 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: f daily, please do give yourselves grace, give yourselves peace, 694 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: find joy each and every single day as always. Power 695 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: to the people and to all the people. Power, get 696 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: woke and stay woke as fuck.