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Speaker 1: it's Texans all excess all We're working all right. Mark

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Speaker 1: and privileged, honored and thrilled to be joined by the

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Speaker 1: General John McLean as usual on a Thursday at a

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Speaker 1: And the Texans made some news today with the draftboard

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Speaker 1: good evening, John McLean joins us and John, I heard

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Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, John, let's get your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: All right, General, we appreciate you visiting what's going on

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Speaker 1: Got Bobby Slower. I'm about to write one on Matt Burke.

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Speaker 1: go here, Johnny, Who's Better? A lot of people are

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Speaker 1: talking about Lamar Jackson this week, and for good reason,

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Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson comes up in the conversation too, because

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Speaker 1: he had a big guaranteed contract given to him by

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I'm just gonna ask you flat out,

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Speaker 1: who's better, Lamar Jackson or Deshaun Watson. We saw Watson

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Speaker 1: in six games last year. You don't even know what

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Speaker 1: he is anymore, he might be back. You don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Cleveland Browns, they hope he's back. Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: He's gotten hurt late each of the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: Can you count on him? Who's better? Johnny? Lamar scares

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Speaker 1: me more. He scares me if I'm a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Lamar's healthy scares me more. Now in asking that question,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're you're also saying, and that is

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Speaker 1: to your point, is Watson gonna ever get back? And

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Speaker 1: on the flip side, is Lamar gonna stay healthy and

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Speaker 1: miss ten games? As John playing out the last segment?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna stay healthy? If both are fully healthy,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Lamar because Lamar scares me, you know

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Speaker 1: that much more, especially throwing the guys like Mark Andrews

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Speaker 1: and Mark Andrews so you know they I mean rashat.

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Speaker 1: Bateman got all upset because Erica Costa talked about adding

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Speaker 1: more wide receivers to the cruise. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there shouldn't be a disconnect in what Bateman thought he

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Speaker 1: could do. And again, he's got to stay healthy. But

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Speaker 1: if Lamar is fully healthy, he scares the fool out

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Speaker 1: of me. Because obviously the way he can run now

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Speaker 1: to Shaun can run too. But Shaun has so much

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Speaker 1: Russ to knockoff. I mean you could, you could see

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Speaker 1: it in our game. I mean, he was two years

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Speaker 1: of not playing ball. That takes a toll. So I

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Speaker 1: think he does rebound this year. I think he's too

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Speaker 1: good of a quarterback. But I still am more scared

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Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. Okay, or scared her? No, that's not proper,

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Speaker 1: proper grammar. We will not allow that. Okay, yeah, scared her?

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Speaker 1: All right? Here we go. Who's better as we continue?

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Speaker 1: Let's go, better chance to play more this year? Would

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Speaker 1: it be Jimmy Garoppolo wherever he ends up. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what that is yet, or Trey Lance, who is

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Speaker 1: still a forty nine er and at some point we'll

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Speaker 1: play football for them consistently, we think who's gonna play more?

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Speaker 1: Better chance to play more? Jimmy g or Trey Lance?

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo because Trey Lance is gonna stay at San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. I just can't see any trade

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Speaker 1: working out anywhere else. It just it just doesn't make sense. Now,

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Speaker 1: he had apparently a clean acl tear I guess that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. And we've seen, you know, medical movement

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Speaker 1: such that players can rebound from that, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: losing too much sleep over that. The brock Purty thing

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Speaker 1: gets interesting to me. He had to wait a while

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Speaker 1: before he could end up having surgery, So if the

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Speaker 1: surgery goes well, there's thought that he could get back

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Speaker 1: by August and make it for the first game of

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Speaker 1: the year. Well, when does Trey Lance come back? And

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Speaker 1: if you know one of them can make it back,

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Speaker 1: then what do they do? They don't go back to

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, do they? So I think Garoppolo's got options.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport pointed out, I was talking with Seth this

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Speaker 1: morning on the show that Panthers Raiders Texans is. I

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Speaker 1: think those are the three teams. He basically pointed out

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Speaker 1: three teams that could definitely be in the running for

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. And I think because of that, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go be a starter for maybe

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Speaker 1: the whole season. But I still think that he is

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Speaker 1: and I feel like he's been this. He's a bridge

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Speaker 1: quarterback and that started in twenty twenty one when they

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Speaker 1: drafted Trey Lance. It was just a matter of time

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Speaker 1: before they handed it off. And he came back this

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Speaker 1: year because obviously all the quarterbacks since San Francisco Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance first, we're all dead. So he comes back forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers had to bring him back. He did some

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Speaker 1: good things, but there was nothing truly special about what

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo was doing. That offense was running probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit better when Brock Purdy was in the game,

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Speaker 1: So I think that all aside. I think Garoppolo is

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Speaker 1: going to have more opportunities to step in and be

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Speaker 1: that guy somewhere for at least a decent portion of

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Speaker 1: the season to fend off a rookie quarterback. But to me,

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Speaker 1: that's what he is now. Does he believe he can

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Speaker 1: be the face of the franchise? Is that what he is?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If he is, then he's not going

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Speaker 1: to play any football. But if he says, look, I

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Speaker 1: can come in, I got a chance to compete. I'll

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Speaker 1: be the starter to start, and then if I take

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Speaker 1: a turn and the rookies ready, then so be it.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna get an opportunity, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say Jimmy Garoppolo in all of that, because I

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Speaker 1: just I just don't know what Trey Lance and Brock

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Speaker 1: Purty are gonna be from a physical standpoint, And if

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Speaker 1: they're not, that's at least to what San Francisco gonna

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Speaker 1: do not knowing that, and they're definitely not bringing back

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. So what are they gonna do in the interim?

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Speaker 1: Did they try and I don't know, they try and

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Speaker 1: get a Baker Mayfield, Like, I don't know what San

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Speaker 1: Francisco's gonna do until those two are gonna be healthy,

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Speaker 1: if at all, So what do they do? That's tricky

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Speaker 1: to me. That's a great that's a great spot for Baker,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if there's gonna be enough of a

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Speaker 1: runway for him to prove himself there, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting spot because it's a good offense for him. And man,

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Speaker 1: that Tree is working out really well, that Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan, Karry Koubiat, Kyle Shanahan, Tree is really working

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Speaker 1: out well. Should we go back to Paul Brown? Should

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Speaker 1: Should we? I mean that thing, that thing, that system

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Speaker 1: with all its variations, and I know people play with

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Speaker 1: it and mcvay's different a little bit from O'Connell and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. But man, does that get results

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the Patriots tree, which doesn't quite with

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Speaker 1: the offensive system, doesn't quite get the results that you're

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Speaker 1: looking for outside of New England and the greatest quarterback

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Speaker 1: of all time running that system. All right, who's better?

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Speaker 1: Let's continue here? Better chance to improve more? The Texans offense,

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Speaker 1: which finished thirty first in the league. I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: gonna go yardage here, or the defense which finished thirtieth. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: those numbers hurt me. It hurts my heart to say

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Speaker 1: those numbers. But which is going to improve more this

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Speaker 1: year statistically? The defense? The defense? Because I think I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a just my You know, we

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Speaker 1: were talking about earlier about free agents coming back on defense,

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Speaker 1: and let's say that. Let's say that they're able to

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Speaker 1: bring back Obo and I don't know. Let's just say Jo.

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Speaker 1: Say they say they bring those two back or Tab.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Tab and Obo. Okay, let's say they bring

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Speaker 1: them back. Those guys have been highly productive. That puts you,

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Speaker 1: That puts them back there with Petrie and Stanley and Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Now you got a secondary that's got some experience now,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Petrie was tremendous minus the mistackles, which has

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Speaker 1: got to improve there, Christian Harris, hopefully you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: for a full year. If you have, If you bring

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Speaker 1: Obo back, then all of a sudden you put him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's in there with John Grenard, you draft another player

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Speaker 1: to go with those two on the edge, and now

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, whoa, Okay, you got something there. Now you

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Speaker 1: find I don't know, maybe some free agent money that

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Speaker 1: you put towards bringing somebody in to play inside with

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Speaker 1: Malik and with roy In Booker and Heinisch, And now

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Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I start to see what this is

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Speaker 1: supposed to look like. I think offensively, Bobby's flock used

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Speaker 1: the word I thought was pretty interesting and stuff that

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Speaker 1: I talked about this too, precision being precise. Offensively, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take a little while to find that sweet spot

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Speaker 1: of absolute precision. Whereas defense, you just play, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ballston Wall and you're eventually, with some better talent, gonna

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Speaker 1: get where you want to go. So I think defensively

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Speaker 1: they'll make quicker, bigger strides than they will offensively but

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Speaker 1: once the offense starts to kind of find that precision point,

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Speaker 1: then I think the offense is really going to turn

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Speaker 1: that thing around pretty quickly. All right, Johnny, who's better?

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Speaker 1: And he's hanging out with me in studio here? Vander

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Speaker 1: Kidd too very excited about his grade on his public

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Speaker 1: speaking assignment. He did my shot by Hamilton him as

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Speaker 1: a ten year old soccer player, or when Messi was tent. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, and Messi was probably pretty amazing. But

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good too, all right, So that's enough for that.

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Speaker 1: That's self serving, all right. Better, I'm gonna word it

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Speaker 1: like this. Johnny. Matt Burke was talking about climbing Mount Kilimanjaro.

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Speaker 1: I was fascinated by that at his press conference. That

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Speaker 1: was really cool. Yeah, but what would you It's more

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Speaker 1: like a would you rather? If I say you gotta

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Speaker 1: do one of these jobs? You gotta climb either Mount

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Speaker 1: Kilimanjaro or swim the English channel. Swimming the English channels

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Speaker 1: twenty miles and it takes anywhere from seven to twenty

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Speaker 1: seven hours. People like grease themselves up or they do it.

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Speaker 1: Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro takes five to nine days, and as

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Speaker 1: you heard Matt Burkes say, it's not that pleasant all

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Speaker 1: the time. You can get a little altitude sickness whatever.

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Speaker 1: There are taller mountains in the world. Everest is way taller,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but Mount Kilimanjaro is a big challenge obviously,

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Speaker 1: and Hemingway wrote about it. So that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Which would you rather do? I would rather climb, And

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Speaker 1: listening to Matt talk the other day about it, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty interesting that you talked about getting altitude sickness

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Speaker 1: about halfway up, but then when he got to the

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Speaker 1: top he was okay. But then some other of his

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Speaker 1: party got the altitude sickness and they needed to go

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Speaker 1: back down, you know, swimming the English Channel. I I

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Speaker 1: go back to when I was at Brown University. They

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Speaker 1: sent me the very first workout booklet back in nineteen ninety,

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Speaker 1: the summer in nineteen ninety and they were like, look,

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Speaker 1: you can either you could swim these amounts or you

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Speaker 1: can run these amounts. And I never really liked you know,

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Speaker 1: running four hundreds or eight hundreds or the fartlet or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I'll swim and I did that

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Speaker 1: for about a week and Mark it was exhausting. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'll go run, Holy cow, this is hard,

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Speaker 1: and I gave that up. So I can't imagine doing

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Speaker 1: that for any longer than I would have to. It

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Speaker 1: is a grueling workout. And I used to work at

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Speaker 1: the Bowls School where Chipper Jones went to high school,

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Speaker 1: and they had an international swim program with dozens of

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Speaker 1: swimmers over the years that had gone to the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: And I watched those kids work out at like four

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Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, start at four thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 1: get done by six thirties so they could get the

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Speaker 1: class by seven thirty, seven forty five. It's brutal. I

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Speaker 1: will take the altitude sickness and go up Mount Killamajaro

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Speaker 1: and climate I'll do that. I'll do that nine and

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Speaker 1: a half times out of ten. Versus swimming. I think

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Speaker 1: I'd almost rather swim. I don't know. If I had

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Speaker 1: one of those boats alongside me and I could bail.

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Speaker 1: But no, you want to do it, you want to

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Speaker 1: complete it, you gotta complete it. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta think about this one. I canna beat a

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Speaker 1: boat now. That defeats the whole purpose. I'm on a

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Speaker 1: boat all right, coming up here. Yeah, I'm on a

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Speaker 1: boat here, coming up. John Harris gives us a possible

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Speaker 1: mister Irrelevant. You're gonna call your shot, Johnny, because the

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Speaker 1: Texans have the pick for mister Irrelevant this year. Call

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Speaker 1: your shot today and you can change it. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, this is your first attempt, so this one

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Speaker 1: will really have a lot of meaning if you can

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Speaker 1: land it. And also John McLean made some interesting points

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Speaker 1: about Jimmy g and should he would he is he?

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Speaker 1: Let's go over those next segment coming up here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Texans Radio continues in a moment back to

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Speaker 1: the show. They teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you with us, Mark Vandermayer, John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you, all right, Johnny, mister Irrelevant. The Texans half

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Speaker 1: the pick with the seventh round comp pick given to

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Speaker 1: them today. Give me a possibility maybe two mister irrelevant

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Speaker 1: when they select him, unless Nick trades the pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'll probably trade the pick. I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well he's kind of a he's a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver returner right at UCLA tiny guy, but absolutely can fly.

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Speaker 1: His name is Kaz Allen, UCLA wide receiver slash returner.

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Speaker 1: This dude can absolutely jit. But he's also five seven,

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Speaker 1: one seventy so he would kind of be a seventh

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Speaker 1: round answer to Tank Dell. But Tank is just that much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's I don't know, he's got two inches

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Speaker 1: and you know, probably about the same weight as Kaz Allen.

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Speaker 1: Allen has got a track background and he played football late.

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Speaker 1: But this year he had one game at UCLA where

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Speaker 1: he led the Bruins and rushing. He had one game

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Speaker 1: where he led them in receiving yards, and he's got,

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Speaker 1: you know, incredible speed, So I mean he might even

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Speaker 1: be a I don't know, he might be an early seven,

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Speaker 1: maybe a late six. But I'll go with Kaz Allen

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Speaker 1: from UCLA. I think you're getting knocked because of his size,

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Speaker 1: but man at Duke can absolutely smoke. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: could fly. So that's the guy I'm going with from UCLA. Well,

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Speaker 1: Chris Santiago saved the audio because you never know at

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Speaker 1: the end of the draft. This could be it with

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Speaker 1: the triple digit jersey and all of it for mister irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Jimmy g. The reports are possibly the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders. The Texans have come up in the conversation, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I do see the general's point about, hey, the Panthers Raiders,

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Speaker 1: You're probably more likely to play more in those places,

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Speaker 1: because especially the Raiders less likely to take a quarterback

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Speaker 1: early in this draft. But where we sit right now,

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Speaker 1: that does seem logical your thoughts, Yeah, I do. I

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Speaker 1: mean I tend to agree with that. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: General is very purposeful in saying he's a backup. And

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Speaker 1: I said today when I was talking with a Seth

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Speaker 1: that I was okay with a couple of situations of

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Speaker 1: bringing Garoppolo in as long as the one situation I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be totally on board with. And that is even

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Speaker 1: though you know how I feel about the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four class of quarterbacks, I do not want. Okay, Jimmy's

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Speaker 1: the guy, and we're not drafting a quarterback this year.

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Speaker 1: That's the one situation I don't want. And I know

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Speaker 1: I've said about twenty twenty four quarterbacks that yeah, I

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that there are two in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four that are gonna be better than what's in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. All of them. I think Drake May

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams are gonna be better than any quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's in this draft class. And so in some sense, okay,

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Speaker 1: we've waited this long, let's wait to twenty twenty four. No,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna get Jimmy Garoppolo, I do not want that.

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Speaker 1: I want Jimmy Garoppolo, and I want to have a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback this year, a rookie quarterback this year, that

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Speaker 1: once Jimmy ends up getting banged up, because what do

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Speaker 1: we know about Jimmy, He gets banged up, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's happened to last how many every years, and how

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Speaker 1: many years of his career hasn't been that way, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. So I would like to have that young

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Speaker 1: quarterback ready to go, learning behind Jimmy, learning this offense,

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Speaker 1: and when everything is matching up, the precisions starting to happen,

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Speaker 1: young guys are starting to make some plays, then a

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Speaker 1: rookie steps in and is ready to kind of take

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Speaker 1: this thing on into the future. So to me getting

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo with a rookie, drafting a rookie without getting Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: those two situations, I'm okay, with what I don't want,

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Speaker 1: like I said, is I don't want Jimmy coming here

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Speaker 1: and he's he's the guy, and there's no question, And

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Speaker 1: that's what you're going with in twenty twenty three, with

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Speaker 1: no young dude ready ready to roll if something happens

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Speaker 1: to Jimmy. I just that situation. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: i'd been down with. Well, I'll tell you this, if

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Speaker 1: you can guarantee me he stays healthy, that's interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: But I know that you've got these young bucks and

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Speaker 1: the crosshairs, and you're wondering whether you want to take

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Speaker 1: them or not, and everybody's wondering. I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: Texans probably have a very definite idea and what they

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Speaker 1: want and who they want right now and how they

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Speaker 1: want to set it up. Johnny Aaron Wilson reports that

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Speaker 1: m J. Stewart has resigned with the Texans. We're on

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Speaker 1: live here, so I think that's pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's a good glue guy, a guy who can help

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Speaker 1: you do some things. You liked him when he came

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Speaker 1: in and spot duty and he's a good special teams player.

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Speaker 1: So these are important signings. You know, this free agency

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Speaker 1: period and you're signing your own guys right now. But

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Speaker 1: this free agency period coming up, you're gonna see some

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Speaker 1: signings that aren't exactly gonna blow you away, that aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna blow your Instagram feed into smith areens. They're just

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Speaker 1: gonna be solid signings to build the team, to put

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Speaker 1: this squad together, good foundational pieces. Well that's probably overstating

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Speaker 1: it a bit, but they're just guys to help you

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Speaker 1: win games, right, and you need a lot of these

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Speaker 1: kinds of players. You gotta put together a ninety man

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Speaker 1: roster and this is just part of the process. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if MJ ultimately makes it, but he

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Speaker 1: made it last year and he's a pretty good addition.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When they signed him, J Stewart, I

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Speaker 1: was kind of curious as to I figured in that

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Speaker 1: defense he'd play safety, but I didn't and I saw

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Speaker 1: a play with Cleveland. Okay, there's there been some moments

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Speaker 1: in training camp. I mean, MJ was just trying to

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Speaker 1: find his footing. It looked like because he just didn't

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Speaker 1: look like the guy that I had seen coming out

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina. He just didn't look confident, even looked

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Speaker 1: like the guy was at Cleveland. But then about halfway

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Speaker 1: through the year, he started getting time on defense. After

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Speaker 1: being a superstar on special teams, he got an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go on a defense and he started make it

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Speaker 1: some things happen. And I really liked what he gave

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Speaker 1: the Texans over the last half of the year. So

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Speaker 1: bringing back m J Stewart, I like it. I really

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Speaker 1: like it. I liked when Jim J was next to

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Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie back there. I felt good about that. I

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Speaker 1: mean that Dallas game, MJ tips that slant route to

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown and it gets it in the hands of

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Speaker 1: Tremont Smith who picks it off and then it changed

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Speaker 1: the game. But that was a signal of hey, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, this is gonna be a sixty minute fight

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. The Texans are just laying down. That

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Speaker 1: was a big reason for it was that MJ tip

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Speaker 1: to the interception. So I love bringing back MJ in

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Speaker 1: whatever role, even if it's just special teams. Let's say

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Speaker 1: it's just special teams, that's still valuable because he is

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Speaker 1: one of the best core four special teamers this team has. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: that helps. That helps the cause. My friend and I

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Speaker 1: really like it. I really like it a lot because

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of those signings. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for tonight. We've got

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Speaker 1: free agent see coming up, the legal tampering period coming

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Speaker 1: up soon enough, and then the league year beginning next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of work to do as

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Speaker 1: the team gets constructed, and we'll be here with you

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Speaker 1: every step of the way. Johnny, are you done filling

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Speaker 1: in on the morning show? Are you gonna do more

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Speaker 1: of that? Yeah? Just today. It was just today, So

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Speaker 1: when that four forty five wake up call came, was like,

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Speaker 1: oh that's early. Gosh, this is early. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. But we'll be all

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Speaker 1: set for tomorrow. Radio. Got Paul Allen going to join

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Speaker 1: us and a little in the lab. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun too, very nice. Indeed, Thank you, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: thank you Chris Santiago for producing this show. Will be

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Speaker 1: up in podcast forms soon enough. Have a great evening,

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Speaker 1: Go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six

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Speaker 1: ten