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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily's Top twenty five players of the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years. This is the big six part

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Speaker 1: series where we break down the best players of the century.

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Speaker 1: So far, we're made it all the way to episode four,

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Speaker 1: and that means we're gonna hit the top ten in

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Speaker 1: this episode. And when I was thinking of who could

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Speaker 1: come on during this series, one name kept coming back

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Speaker 1: to me. And even though he just had a baby,

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Speaker 1: I said, Nate Tice, can you break your paternity leave

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Speaker 1: to come on the show.

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Speaker 2: I felt really bad.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that when I first asked you, But

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Speaker 1: you just wanted to talk ball. We've got some personal

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Speaker 1: connections on this show, and so I'm really so excited

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Speaker 1: that Nate Tice of Yahoo's Sports check out his football podcast.

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Speaker 2: Three to zho one, you're with us today. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have some fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: No, you threw some nice bait in the water to

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Speaker 4: get me on this one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like it was not only just the one that I

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Speaker 4: definitely have a connection you to the others that we're

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Speaker 4: talking about were also like, yeah, yeah, twist my arm

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Speaker 4: to talk about these players.

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Speaker 3: So happy to be here. Thanks for It's all good.

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Speaker 4: I got enough sleep to be able to talk about

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Speaker 4: these players, to try and remember my childhood a little bit.

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Speaker 1: With some of these I know, I knew, so I wanted,

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Speaker 1: like Baldy is a perfect guess. He was just on

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Speaker 1: because he's covered the league the whole time. So I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about guys like that, like Steve Weiss, Kevin Harlan,

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Speaker 1: guys like that too. But I knew that even when

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Speaker 1: Nate Tice was a wee lad, he was following this

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Speaker 1: like it was his freaking job. So I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to talk about these players. Let's go to our first

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Speaker 1: one of the day, number eleven.

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Speaker 3: Rob Ronkowski from.

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Speaker 1: The Rams thirty one shotgun staff to Brady's dropping back

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Speaker 1: lobs would throw four.

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Speaker 5: Ronkowski left side makes the.

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Speaker 6: Catch over two different nurse.

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Speaker 2: Tumbling to the two and it's.

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Speaker 5: A twenty nine.

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Speaker 7: You strike to the big boy, his favorite tight end,

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Speaker 7: the old world tight end.

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Speaker 3: What a catch. It's just crunch time.

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Speaker 5: When it's crunch time, Tom loves to throw.

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Speaker 3: Me in the ball and I love to make that players.

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Speaker 7: The staff out of the gun actually fake passed up

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Speaker 5: He's gonna score a touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Touchdown Tama Bay Holy Groncaboli he breaks the record. He's

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Speaker 7: got his twenty third touchdown of the postseason from Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: Rob does things that wide receivers do, makes the grab

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Speaker 1: Those things that tight ends do, and Rob does things

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Speaker 5: Do, breakhead's kin to the zone.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, you're kidding me.

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Speaker 5: What an amazing catch by Ronkowsk gets the play of

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable follow if you catch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that clip of Tom Brady miked up

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Speaker 1: asking what a lot of us would ask of Rob

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Speaker 1: Gronkowski throughout his scarer, like how did you do that?

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Speaker 1: A player like no other number eleven on our list,

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Speaker 1: the number one tight end on the list. And Nate,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with how we started that clip, because his

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Speaker 1: last moment as a Patriot before he quote unquote retired

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Speaker 1: the first time was essentially make the biggest play and

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Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl, And just the game before that,

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Speaker 1: Bucks play too. He led the Bucks and receiving in

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Speaker 1: coming through in the biggest of moments. And to me,

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Speaker 1: this is a list about the highest level of excellence

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Speaker 4: One of the most dominant players in the NFL history

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Speaker 4: at any position. And probably I'm glad you said he's

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Speaker 4: the number one tight end on this list, which I

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Speaker 4: agree with. I think he is the best tight end

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Speaker 4: of all time. And I'm including players that are still playing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he shouldn't even be higher than number eleven on

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Speaker 4: Yes, just absolutely dominance and not only just like oh

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Speaker 4: scoring in his second year. I believe it was all

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Speaker 4: the touchdowns that he had, the yack that he had

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Speaker 4: he was throwing guys off of him. I always thought

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Speaker 4: the only blemish on his entire career was that Miami

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, he's on defense. That's not his fault.

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Speaker 4: That's the only one I have in his career. But

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Speaker 4: one of the most dominant players. You even hinted at

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Speaker 4: the versatility like this guy. And in the video of

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Speaker 4: fade touchdowns, which were automatic, it felt like, and it

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Speaker 4: wasn't you know, the other tight end at that time

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Speaker 4: that was doing that was what Jimmy Graham. You know,

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Speaker 4: he was catching fade balls. And most people hate faith

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Graham was a glorified receiver that wanted to be

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Speaker 4: what they said too, And Mike not just like, oh,

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Speaker 4: he was pretty good a I was, like, no, an

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Speaker 4: absolute one of the best blocking tight ends ever on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the second season he had thirteen hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: ninety catches, seventeen touchdowns, and you know, he was always

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Speaker 1: he managed to catch fifteen yards per catch his entire career, Nate,

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Speaker 1: So you don't quite like, I don't think people immediately

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Speaker 1: because he was in blocking and obviously very valuable, more

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Speaker 1: valuable as a run blocker. It's just next level. And

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Speaker 1: we spent a lot of the episode. Travis Kelce was

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Speaker 1: I spent a decent amount of time kind of comparing,

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Speaker 1: and for me, this list is more about how great

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Speaker 1: you were at your greatest, and obviously you have to

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Speaker 1: a real film guy, like the way that he tilted

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Speaker 4: Like the guys that change the math or make the

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Speaker 4: opposing team honor them. I think anybody who watch the

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Speaker 4: NBA playoffs kind of feels this sometimes where you're like

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Speaker 4: then the NFL that's what it is week to week,

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Speaker 4: not saying other sports aren't. You can just see it

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Speaker 4: more hyper focused in the playoffs. But in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: Gronk's on the field as opposed to other tight ends,

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Speaker 4: not want Sam laport at the point of attack. As

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Speaker 4: but I'm just going, yeah, he's a receiver to us.

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Speaker 4: So that changes the defensive looks, That changes what they

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Speaker 3: You do not have to hide him in the run game.

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Speaker 3: You're actually using him as.

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Speaker 4: The point of attack, and that in itself is usually

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Speaker 4: a Guys that can do that aren't really great receivers.

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Speaker 4: Guys like Josh Oliver right now, who's like a fine receiver.

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Speaker 4: But Gronk was the best receiver. So it's just that's that.

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Speaker 4: I actually think Travis Kelcey at twenty five is like

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Speaker 4: the highest that Kelsey ever had is thirteen point five and.

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Speaker 2: Twenty you're saying Kelsey shouldn't be on the list, or

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Speaker 2: he should.

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Speaker 3: Be no, should be higher.

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Speaker 1: It's tough when you see these games. They're the only

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Speaker 1: they're the only two tight ends. I mean that he's

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Speaker 1: jumping over a guy like these are the quality of

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Speaker 1: players you're jumping over. Though, It's like Walter Jones and oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like this list is outraged, you know, Interrell

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Speaker 1: Owens and players like like that Lamar Jackson statement. You know,

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Speaker 1: just look at the list first. But yeah, that versatility

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Speaker 1: is the difference of why he's that high to me, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Why Yeah, he's the why tight end.

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Speaker 4: No, but it's there's I talked about rarity at a

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Speaker 4: position like you're never it's gonna be. I don't think

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Speaker 4: we ever see a guy at this level that can

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Speaker 4: do both things this well, truly be a lead blocking

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Speaker 4: he was the guy of a passing attack and in

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Speaker 5: They protected Brady no section in the game for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: It really is that you mentioned, Yeah, the guy going

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Speaker 1: But that was that was the man. Rob Gronkowski and

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Speaker 2: With the fourteenth pick in the two thousand and seven

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Speaker 3: It's perfect.

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Speaker 4: Ben from the pocket has time, lobs it to the

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Speaker 5: Darrell Reevis was there and Ted Dan grabbed him by

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Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of good corners in this league,

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Speaker 5: Let's go. Don't be afraid to be great tonight. Don't

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Speaker 7: If you're a Jets fan, I guess it's safe to

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Speaker 3: Thank you for believing in me and supporting me every

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Speaker 1: Four First Team All Pros, a member of the Hall

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Speaker 2: Do you agree, Nate Tice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes him.

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Speaker 4: top eleven, top fifteen, We're talking about real needle movers.

437
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 4: This is a skeleton key kind of player. That's what

438
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 4: really really good corners can do is that they just

439
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 4: true outside lockdown corners. Is they can let you be

440
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 4: aggressive because now you can really only have to cover

441
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 4: two and a half seconds, or if your blitz doesn't

442
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 4: get there, you can hold on for three three and

443
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 4: a half seconds. In theory, with these types of guys,

444
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: it just allows defenses to be more aggressive. And then

445
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 4: he just went with the aggressive guy and Rex Ryan

446
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 4: just one of those perfect marriages of player other aspects

447
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 4: of this team, and then the coach to kind of

448
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: wield him at that time.

449
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he came in talking such a big game Rex

450
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: immediately before he even had Revis for a game set. Oh,

451
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: he's the best cornerback in league. He's going to be

452
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: And he hadn't really shown that level of play yet,

453
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: but he saw the vision and yeah, and that season

454
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: thirty one passes defense and six interceptions and he gave

455
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: up forty one completions on I think it was one

456
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven attempts at him, So people were trying

457
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: him a little bit. So if you do the math there,

458
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: you're throwing for about thirty percent when you throw it

459
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: to Revs. And these are the best wide receivers in

460
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: the league. And when you do throw it on those,

461
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: when you're completing at thirty percent of the time, there

462
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: is almost an equal chance that a guy makes a

463
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: catch as Darrell Revis touches the ball. And so that

464
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: level of total dominance, it was a demanding style of play.

465
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: It didn't hold up as well throughout his whole career,

466
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: but the brilliance that he had for that stretch with

467
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: the Jets and then coming back around it did contribute

468
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: to him being the top cornerback for me on that list.

469
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: He was awesome in that twenty fourteen Patriots season. So

470
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: that was like the era of the Miami Heat super team,

471
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: and that Revs pick up kind of felt like it

472
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: because the Patriots were knocking on the door, knocking on

473
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: the door, and they got a great Revus season in

474
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and Malcolm Butler, you know, help deliver Durel

475
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: Revis and everyone else on that team a championship.

476
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 4: It's such a hard position to sustain high level play

477
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: because it's just twitchiness. You look at any sport that

478
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: requires athleticism or just even quick twitch athleticism. It's why

479
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: kind of you look in combat sports. It's why younger fighters, sorry,

480
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: smaller fighters age quicker. It's because so much is round

481
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: on speed, and that's what outside positions are kind of

482
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 4: like in the NFL. I think Revis, if he came

483
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: into the league five years later, he would have a

484
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: even more extended career. He had a nice career, but

485
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying he wouldn't maybe caught on for maybe two

486
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: three more years because all that zone stuff I talked about.

487
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: I think he would have.

488
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: Been really nice in those types of systems where he

489
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: could have been like a number two. You know, a

490
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: number two corner that's you know, on your roster, You're

491
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: not really he's gonna kind of play like an above

492
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: average corner that can merely just hold his own because

493
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: you're gonna just run so many zone looks. And that

494
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: was the thing we talked about, the man the man

495
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: looks and lockdown Revis Island. His body positioning was excellent,

496
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 4: like he just knew how to position his body and

497
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: get his hands on the ball. And I think that's

498
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: just why he would would have would have aged better

499
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: if he just came into the league even a little

500
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: bit later. Like you said, it's just such a demanding

501
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: asque to just play that way, so kind of oh,

502
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: you know, actually modern comparisons Stefan Gilmore, Yes, last year

503
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 4: with Minnesota gets in a Brian Florrez defense that's a

504
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: little bit more zone heavy with all the funky looks.

505
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: I think Revis would have kind of aged that way

506
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: as well.

507
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: The crazy thing with Revis, though, is like the rest

508
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: of the Jets would be in zone, but Revis would

509
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: just be a man. Like Rex talked about that, just like, Okay,

510
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the team's doing one thing, and I've

511
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: got Revis. You know, as you mentioned doing something else.

512
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: Let's let's look at Darrell Revis and he might be

513
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: going up against someone else that's on this list.

514
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 5: This is revs. Down here on eighty one Randy Moss,

515
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 5: Brady gonna go deep for Moss is Darnick and is

516
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 5: brought down by Moss back with the sixteen yard line.

517
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 4: That's like a perfect example what I was talking about.

518
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: They've ran a blitz Jim Lendard, of course the Grex

519
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: Shran's favorite player ever, who's with the Broncos right now

520
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 4: gets home. Tom Brady has to throw a goball to Moss,

521
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: which usually is like guaranteed touchdown one on one. There's

522
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: the blitz Jim Leonard free one on one. It should

523
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 4: be what you want and turns into a pick. I mean,

524
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 4: that should be a touchdown. Like that's that's the that's

525
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: those are math changers. That that's why like Darrel Reeves

526
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 4: is Darrel Revas. It was like a perfect example.

527
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: It was such a good matchup for those years because famously,

528
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, Moss's first game with the Patriots, he goes

529
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: deep on Revas, who is coming off an injury at

530
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: the time, and like that's an all time touchdown for him,

531
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: and then that's an all time interception for Durell Reeves,

532
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: one of the best to do it. Let's take a

533
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: quick break, and we may just have spoiled too on

534
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: the other side. Back on NFL Daily's best twenty five

535
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: players in the last twenty five years, I'm getting the tingles.

536
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: It's all been a preamble to the real reason we

537
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: had Nate Tice on this show.

538
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: Number nine. Randy Moss.

539
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 5: Farron airs it out. Guess who Moss? Another touch? Another

540
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: touch style. There are two guys covering Randy Moss and

541
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: neither guy can get in a position. And that's just embarrassing.

542
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 5: What's that football world? Here goes with a big ball

543
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: to Moss.

544
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: He reels today with hot hand right revest let me.

545
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 5: Stay them, I go bye to and just go hurt

546
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: you and Smith's arns Moss for the first down of bard.

547
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: There goes Brandy Boss down the sideline.

548
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 8: Brandy Moss on Monday Night good bounces, nude hold beeper.

549
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 5: Look at Randy Moll.

550
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: Touch down.

551
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: Believable head ud, believable crazy Moss flight wide to the

552
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: right for long count a.

553
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 7: Ready takes ready looks Freddy Fills touch down, touchdown, Randy

554
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 7: Boss right open at the clear.

555
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Side of the exel, finishing there with a go ahead

556
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: touchdown with under three minutes to go, and what I

557
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: would say was the greatest drive of Tom Brady's career.

558
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: And yet it never gets remembered because something called the

559
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: helmet catch happened a few minutes later in a game

560
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: where they had no answers. It made so much sense

561
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: in that two thousand and seven season that it was

562
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: Randy Moss that puts them.

563
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Over the top.

564
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: Man, that that whole clip just brings back all the

565
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: memories like Tarrico on Monday Night Football.

566
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: That was fun.

567
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: Gus Johnson is in the mix, Randy Moss over Drell

568
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: Reeves and then obviously his days with the Vikings.

569
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: Nate, Well, you were you were a ball boy back

570
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: in the day.

571
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: What was going on? What was your experience with with

572
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: the Randy Moss era.

573
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 4: It worked my perception on NFL athletes and athletes in

574
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: general for my entire life. Oh yeah, this is normal,

575
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: you know, this is this is just what you see

576
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: every day. And then realizing as I've gotten older that

577
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 4: I might again might not see that ever again, just

578
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: like when we talk about Gronk talking about unicorns, talking

579
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: about once in the lifetime athletes, like, that's Randy Moss

580
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: to me, uh like he I mean, he's all of six',

581
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: four could legitimately run a four to. Three you, know

582
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: people say below, that but legitimately a four to. Three

583
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: the greatest hands, ever the greatest ball skills. Ever also

584
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: another guy that's a football, genius believe it or, not

585
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: like really is far as just body positioning and understand the,

586
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: coverages like really really advanced level uh and just just

587
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: the package of all of. It and also just again

588
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: age actually okay for a minute with the forty nine

589
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: ers where he almost had like A Vince carter late

590
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: career where it was kind of his athletics isn't let

591
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: it be okay you know for a. Minute but when

592
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: you talk about that seven year, dominance you, know it's

593
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: almost Like shack like you it's just one of THE

594
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: i actually when you told me the guys that we're

595
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: gonna talk, ABOUT i thought we're gonna be a maybe

596
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: a chunk. Higher this guy was included At Randy moss

597
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i just, OKAY i don't think it's just he's

598
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 4: just the once in a lifetime type. Player to, ME

599
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: i KNOW i have some biases with, that BUT i

600
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: think anyone that watched him and see, them just watch a,

601
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: game one game in that kind OF o two to

602
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: five era four era In minnesota really ninety, nine ninety

603
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: eight to oh. Four, yeah, yeah but really when The

604
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: randy ratio kind of, started and just watch him kind

605
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: of take over two thousand and, three watch him against

606
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: The packers in two thousand and, three and you'll just

607
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: watch a drive where it's like that first you guys,

608
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: had and that was two thousand and, three as well

609
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: As Gus farott throw him the ball against the forty

610
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: nine ers and even on that. Play we talk about

611
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: certain players changed the league as far as scheme and.

612
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: Everything Lawrence taylor is the famous. Example Randy moss is the.

613
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: Same like the proliferation Of cover two also helped that

614
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: THE Nflfc central featured The Tampa Bay, buccaneers But cover

615
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: two became more happened more league wide because teams, go,

616
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: well that's how we have to Stop Randy. Moss otherwise

617
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: it's singled up automatic. Touchdown but you watched that first,

618
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: place It's Gus farott backup quarterback launching a ball against cover,

619
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: two which should be. Impossible he should be double covered

620
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: with two guys with him with a safety that should

621
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: be over at the top of, them and he's passed.

622
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: Them so talk about math, changers just guys that break

623
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: the space time can continue them with. Football that Was Randy,

624
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: moss AND i stand by it's the greatest Athlete i'll

625
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: probably ever see in my.

626
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: LIFE i love.

627
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: It i'm glad you're pushing back that he should be even.

628
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: HIGHER i THINK i sent you a text at one

629
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: point WHEN i was, like it WOULD i be crazy

630
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: to Have megatron Over Randy moss because and you were, like.

631
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: You get short with.

632
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: You, yeah you're just. BAD i Had moss even.

633
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: LOWER i had him twelve for, OKAY i will defend

634
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: myself at least in terms of why he's not even.

635
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Higher and at this point they're all just so good

636
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: that you're you're splitting, Here yeah you don't count ninety

637
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: eight the, best that's fair rookie season of all time

638
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: BY i think for the era in terms of you

639
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: know the fact that he was Because pukaku's numbers are,

640
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: crazy but for the era right to get to GET mvp.

641
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Votes he was third in THE mvp that. Year Randy,

642
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: moss he led the league in touchdowns as a rookie wide.

643
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: Receiver it was just stuff that you'd never seen, before

644
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: so that doesn't. Count and then he has the pop up, Seasons,

645
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: nate he has the four first Team all, pros But

646
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: i'm only counting. Three but in terms of the breadth

647
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: of as you, know the entire, career it was like

648
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: a little less and the other guys at other, positions

649
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: not even at wide, receiver because Ultimately Randy moss is

650
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: my highest receiver on this. LIST i thought they're incredible

651
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: excellence at the very. Top plus they added like a

652
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: sprinkling of a little a few more extra. Years but

653
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: That i'm just splitting here is you're making me talk

654
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: negatively About Randy.

655
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Moss this is. Preposterous he's in the top.

656
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: Ten we're in the top. TEN i know it's so

657
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: tough with all, this AND i get. It and again

658
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: WHEN I i know WHAT i, saw it was just

659
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: it's one of those just the highlight reel. Moment not even,

660
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: man now you're just make me go down memory. LANE i,

661
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: mean it's just the latter play against The. Broncos you

662
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: Know Tomoe williams again just the football genius to, him

663
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: the sports. Genius there's a play this would have been four

664
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: against The, saints AND i want to say it Was sunday.

665
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: Night it Was sunday and Their monday night and He

666
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: dante Made Dante culpeper throws it sixty yards into the

667
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: back corner of the end. Zone and again it Was

668
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: Randy moss beating cover two on a third and like

669
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: fifteen AND i just talked about math breakers As dante

670
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: throwing as far as you, Could randy running by everybody

671
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: and catches in the very very corner of the end.

672
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: Zone it's one of my favorite throws and catches. Ever

673
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: but he made that on the regular like he did

674
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: those like on a week to week basis where it

675
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: was just truly. Highlights how MANY i, MEAN i mean

676
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: anyone that owned them in fancy even the. Hots it

677
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: would be like you'd have games where even if he

678
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: got taken out of the, game, right they would find

679
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: a way for him to score in the red zone or.

680
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: Something because he was another fade guy that was dominant

681
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 4: on fades where he would have games where it'd be

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: like four catches twenty two yards two, touchdowns you, know

683
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: like he'd have like random games like, that like look it, Up,

684
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: oh Three week One, cowboys he had a game like.

685
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: THAT i love that.

686
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: You're pulling all of these just totally out of thin.

687
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Air.

688
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: Exactly, no but it's it's it's really just one of those. Players,

689
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 4: AGAIN i don't think we'll see that combination of. Traits

690
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: we might see big and fast guys that can run some.

691
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: Routes we might see guys that can catch everything and be,

692
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: fast but maybe at five to. Ten it's just that

693
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: combination of, size, speed ball skills all rare and one

694
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: of my you, know if you want a neutral, PARTY

695
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: i said this in the draft process because we're talking

696
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: About Travis, hunter BECAUSE i Said Travis hunter's ball skills

697
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: were like a Mini Randy. Moss is That Bobby bowden said,

698
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: that you know That Deon sanders was his parameter for,

699
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: athleticism and he Said Randy moss is a Bigger Deon

700
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: sanders and, THAT i, mean come, on it's really what

701
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: we're talking about. Here but, yeah one of my probably

702
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: my favorite player ever probably will never be. Topped AND

703
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: i got to see a lot of cool things watching

704
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: him in practice and games up close and.

705
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Personal there's so much about THAT i could dig. Into,

706
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: well FIRST i do want to point out BECAUSE i

707
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: was talking about like how he didn't, stack you, know

708
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: as many dominant. Seasons let's not get it like carried.

709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Away he's fourth all time in receiving, yards and he's

710
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: second in, Touchdowns like he has the accumulative counting. Sets

711
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: he's second in one hundred yard receiving. Game he's third

712
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: in like thousand yard. Seasons So King karen stinks because

713
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: he's second in home Run he has all of those numbers.

714
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Too SO i love what you said about how he

715
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: changed the, game and THAT i think is important if

716
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: we're going to put a player this. High when he

717
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: got To New, England Bill belichick tells that story and

718
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: they're going through how things are gonna go and you know,

719
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: different And randy is just, like, well, yeah but you're

720
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna face any single high. Anymore

721
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: like that's, gone like great.

722
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: Watch, film like everyone got played them, differently.

723
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Right he's, like don't worry about how we're going to

724
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: handle those. Defenses And belichick often said How Randy moss

725
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: taught him more than almost any.

726
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Other player he's ever.

727
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: Coached he, said certainly the smartest receiver he's ever coached

728
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: and one of the smartest players, overall and that they

729
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: kept adding different kind of two way goes into an

730
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: option routes into how he ran because he could handle,

731
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: that and a lot of the, time a lot of

732
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: his touchdowns you saw were like he's coming inside and

733
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: then he breaks back out to the. Corner and that

734
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: was all like intell and sent him And Tom, brady

735
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: two geniuses being on the same. Page and if we

736
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: want to get into just like numbers, again they combine

737
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: for the greatest season ever between a quarterback and a wide.

738
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Receiver let's let's check out a.

739
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 7: Clip third down and ten for The patriots withok their

740
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 7: own thirty five direction nap To brady stands in the,

741
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 7: pocket fires it to the right down the right sideline

742
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: and caught at the twenty fifteen ten five. Touchdown Patriots Tom,

743
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 7: Brady Rando Randy, moss and they each have SHUT nfl

744
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 7: records on the go ahead touchdown sixty five yard Bomb

745
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 7: Brady demosh For Tom brady touchdown pass number, fifty AN

746
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 7: nfl record For randy mosh touchdown reception number twenty, three

747
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 7: AN nfl. Record one play bang, bang they both SET nfl.

748
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: Records it is really crazy to think about that Because

749
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: Ty warren or who was it that who Grabbed Eli

750
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: manning's jersey and can get them you, know to the

751
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: ground on that. Play like if they were able to do,

752
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: that if The patriots defense comes up big with that

753
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: lead against The, giants Then Randy moss breaks the all

754
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: time record and receiving touchdowns on a game winning like

755
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: huge long touchdown to go seventeen to oh to end

756
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: the regular season and they were losing that. Game it

757
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: was the Right it was like week seventeen and it

758
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: was in the fourth quarter and he breaks.

759
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 4: That Network it was a big SPECIAL Nfl. Network, yeah it.

760
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: Was it was a big spot FOR Nfl network And

761
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: Brian GUMBELE i believe at the. Time and so that's

762
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: what he does in the regular, season and then he

763
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: finishes that season out by winning The Super bowl by

764
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: catching the game winning touchdown for under you, know with

765
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: under three minutes. Left and it's crazy how much differently

766
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: we would remember just that season as magical and as you,

767
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: know memorable as it is if their defense just finishes

768
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: out that. Play but there were so many moments like,

769
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: that and you brought up a bunch of them.

770
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: ALREADY i love.

771
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: It TO i, mean it's not.

772
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: Coincidence was on the two teams that set the point,

773
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 4: record you, know scoring record ninety Eight vikings and then,

774
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: yeah Seven. Patriots he was a big reason because of.

775
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: That for, that it's NOW i all the memories and

776
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: again it that cover two, stories the ONE i always

777
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: come back to and like that That. BELICHICK i was

778
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: so cool for me to hear The belichick version of

779
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: that and The patriots version of, that because that's WHAT

780
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: i would Hear Scott lenehan and my dad talking about

781
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: In minnesota was that like they couldn't like they couldn't

782
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: use film from previous weeks because nobody was playing cover

783
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: to every. Snap and if you look again the gravity of,

784
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: this there's a couple of receivers that get this now Justin,

785
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: jefferson which is. Fun you know Another viking gets this

786
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: treatment as. Well but if you look, too is Those

787
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: vikings teams had awesome run. Games is because and that

788
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: is something again changing the. Math so it's just not

789
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: only his, stats it's how he made everyone else's lives.

790
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: Easier if you're drawing double, coverage that means everyone else

791
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 4: gets singled. Up Jermaine wiggins had his career year With

792
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: Randy moss In. Minnesota, yeah Former patriot as.

793
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, yes was there Some Meelde, Moore Randy.

794
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: Musk they were kind of like the Two Twin towers

795
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: though they were really setting each other.

796
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: UP i feel like And Nate burson in.

797
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: There yeah, no but, no you well Theymore, no but

798
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: that was actually a big because that would they would get,

799
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: Sorry i'm just you're just making me your rant, now

800
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: but it's. Uh they would get all the cover, too

801
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: and the running back would be isoed up on like

802
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: some big linebacker with a neck. Roll so they had

803
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: all these receiving running backs that were able to just.

804
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: Win Ontario smith was the other guy that would just

805
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: win these one on. Ones it would just be, cheating you,

806
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: know just a little one on one matchups Because Randy

807
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: moss was taking so much.

808
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: Coverage, yeah but let's.

809
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: Look at one more fun highlight from The vikings, era

810
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: which is remembered for a variety of.

811
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 6: Reasons moss for a, touchdown Oh Elan harris playing all

812
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 6: bien up on the route And Randy, moss without even

813
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 6: really being able to run as a shoots the moon

814
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: to the.

815
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: Fans here In Green.

816
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 5: Bay that is a disgusting act By Randy, moss and

817
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 5: it's unfortunate that we had that on our ear.

818
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 7: Live that is.

819
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 5: Disgusting let's get back to the, Play.

820
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Randy great job by the way By chris And.

821
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Troy what a booth by the, Way Joe, Buck, Wow

822
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: Chris collinsworth And Troy Aikman uh Collins drith just rips

823
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: out shoot the moon in the middle of a. Sentence very,

824
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: Naturally buck cuts him, off and Then troy's just you

825
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: could tell that the Stated troy's voice is kind of

826
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like calm, down, buddy and was, like all, right let's

827
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: get back to the.

828
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: Play What abouty's, Right troy's.

829
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: Right that wasn't called in the.

830
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: Huddle it was a it was a run, play and

831
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: once again The packers had Brand man coverage and it

832
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: was just a signal From Pepper culpepper to To. Randy

833
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 4: and if you even watch on, it they're not pass.

834
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: Blocking everyone's run. Blocking and so he just skirts out

835
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: to the, ring just throws. It but, yeah, Again math

836
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: changer and that was on the high ankle sprain as. Well,

837
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: yeah so shooting them and then that's Also, god you

838
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: just made me just rattle off this like nostalgia for.

839
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: Me so he also knows THE. Afro, yeah that Was

840
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: Kelly campbell And aprils And randy and a couple other

841
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: guys With Jermaine, wiggins and The afros stood For america's

842
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: finance receivers On sunday Or saturday.

843
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: Because there's a game to play On. Saturday, yeah just

844
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: a little little little, aughts BUT i love.

845
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: THAT i can just what was it like for a

846
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: little Uh nate tice? There, yes for listeners that aren't,

847
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: aware your father might coach the team from two thousand

848
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: and one to two thousand and. FIVE a lot of

849
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: offense in that, time.

850
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: Ye carnival, Teams, yeah a lot of. Points and again

851
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: that's WHAT i thought was. NORMAL i thought playing in

852
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 4: The dome was. NORMAL i grew up in The kingdome

853
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: in The Metro, dome so those were The, YEAH i

854
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: thought that was the HOW i thought you multi use

855
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: stadiums was normal as, Well but, yeah, no but it.

856
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: Was it was. AWESOME i got to see a lot

857
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: of cool players a lot of cool, offenses a very

858
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: fun division, too and very fun period of THE. Nfl

859
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: we've talked about this off, air but it was it

860
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: was just a WHEN i went to thirty two. Teams

861
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: it was right when my dad became a full time

862
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: head coach in two thousand and, two and that felt

863
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 4: like a transitioning of aras you, know and then probably

864
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: Another rett transition after. That but like right that point in,

865
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: time it was defenses were, changing offenses were, changing getting

866
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: a little bit more wide open again, there you, know

867
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't just as run, Heavy SO i thought it

868
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: was a very cool time. Period it was very fun,

869
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: though but Those minnesota teams were a little, wild a little,

870
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: wild you, know like you, know lax character. Rules was

871
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 4: the moneyball.

872
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Was involved and that, place that, place that play we

873
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: just saw actually INSPIRED i had forgotten this that that

874
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: was the play that inspired the famous quote From Randy

875
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: moss when they asked him in the parking lot.

876
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: How he was great cash.

877
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: Homing he was gonna pay for the fine straight, cash.

878
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: Homie let's go. It let's go to our next, player number.

879
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: Eight Ray lewis good protection.

880
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: Here shut by loss And lewis is on his, Way

881
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 5: he's hard to go touch.

882
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: On you, know he is the best tackler in the

883
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: league as far As i'm. Concerned when he gets his

884
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: hands on, you you can forget.

885
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: It you are going down WHEN i step on the

886
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: field and he's on the. Field as to prove to

887
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: these people That i'm the. Best you, know when you

888
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: talk About i'm in a lineback WHEN i step on the,

889
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: FIELD i want to make sure WHEN i walk off.

890
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: It you know you just seen.

891
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: It Here's lewis playing on special. Teams, Oh i'll tell

892
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: you that's worth the worse of the. Pull that's where

893
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: the looser is your.

894
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: Teeth this sole. Entertainment come put me, here, good y'all.

895
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Entertainment ray lewis the highest h off ball linebacker on this.

896
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: List we Had Luke.

897
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Keikley they're at, fourteen but Ultimately ray gets the top

898
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: spot all time tackler seven first Team All, pro which

899
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: is just. Outrageous he kind of had that peak early

900
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: in his, career and then he tacked on this period

901
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: FROM oah nine to like ten where he suddenly was

902
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: popping off.

903
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: Again Two Defensive player of The year.

904
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Votes very few players IN nfl history have ever gotten

905
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: that two more, seasons by the, way where he got

906
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: some SOME mvp, votes three more where he Got Defensive

907
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: player of The year. Vote so for a long, time

908
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: Ray lewis was looked at like not just at the

909
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: best at his, position but as just one of the

910
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: best players in THE. Nfl what what stands out to

911
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: you first when you think about Ray lewis.

912
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: Kind of like the first modern linebacker as far as, coverage,

913
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: blitzing run, ability was big enough to stop the run as,

914
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: well can run sideline the. Sideline bike also has the

915
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: intelligence and just, understanding you, know defensive calls as. Well

916
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: kind of that total. PACKAGE i feel like before, that

917
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: because of what THE nfl, was it was so run.

918
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: Heavy you, know some run and shoot stuff was coming,

919
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: around but most linebackers had the neck. Role there were

920
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 4: big thumpers that had to take on. Fullbacks Ray lewis

921
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 4: felt like a linebacker that was meant to cover single back.

922
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: Offenses and maybe there's others in this, era but he was, Like,

923
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: okay this is the prototype that everyone else is. Chasing

924
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 4: and then again another guy that it's where is it the?

925
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 4: Scheme it's where the scheme and the and the player

926
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: unlock each other where he is helping the scheme out

927
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: because he can do so. Much he can. Cover that's

928
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: the thing that stands out with. ME i just keep

929
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: coming back to is that he could cover Like Derek

930
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: brooks would be another linebacker like this at this, time

931
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: that was, Like, okay this is a coverage linebacker that

932
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: can but also do other. Things but Ray lewis was

933
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: thick enough to you, know stop a guy right at

934
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: the lion of scrimmage as well and live in the

935
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: box as. Well wasn't just a big. Stiff so that

936
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: that's where we're talking about these needle, movers game, changers,

937
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: math math, changers whatever you want to. Say and Ray

938
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: lewis felt like the new prototype for you, know the

939
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: two thousands when he was kind of becoming hitting his

940
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 4: prime and even though he hit it maybe a or

941
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: two before The, haughts but really just once he was

942
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 4: into the two, thousands it's like he was the dude

943
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: at that.

944
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: POSITION i love you starting with that, point because you,

945
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: know WHEN i went back to kind of read About

946
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: lewis's career as part of doing this and talk about his,

947
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: career more than one player kind of pointed that. Out, Exactly,

948
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: nate that he almost straddled too Airis so if you

949
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: think about the peak of Ray lewis's, career and he

950
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: might not be in the top ten or even beyond

951
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: this list if it hadn't worked out that that year

952
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: where he Wins Defensive player of The year and wins

953
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: The Super BOWL, mvp which is just something that's that's

954
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: like an all time year that happened to be two.

955
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: Thousand so he just made the. Cutoff but if you

956
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: think about how great he, was then in the beginning

957
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: part of this, career who is he shutting?

958
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: Down he's shutting Down.

959
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Jerome bettis And Eddie george And Fred. Taylor like those

960
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: matchups Against Eddie george were epic and that was what

961
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: made him. Great and then when you start to think

962
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: about the back half of his, career it really was

963
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: the versatility and the. Coverage so many of his best

964
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: plays when you're looking at his, highlights are just fooling,

965
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making quarterbacks look, Stupid AND i think that that

966
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: gets lost.

967
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: When you talk about Ray.

968
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: Lewis Mike nolan was one of his, Coaches, nate and

969
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: he mentioned that he Was Lawrence taylor's coach and this

970
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: is a hot, take But Mike nolan said he thinks

971
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: Ray lewis is the best defensive player ever because the

972
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: difference is there was no escaping. Him you could not

973
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: run away from. Him you could Have Lawrence taylor on

974
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: the edge or other great edge defenders, ever but there

975
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: was no play where you could. Escape kind of the

976
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: matrix of Ray, lewis whether it was run, left run,

977
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: center run, right pass, left pass, center pass, right obviously

978
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: you can throw over the top of his. Head but

979
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: it's true in a way that he impacted the game

980
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: on a down to down basis like few other defensive.

981
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: Players when the kind Of West coast offense went from you,

982
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: know every it went from Just Bill walsh Or Bill

983
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: walsh was the proliferator of it to like more commonplace

984
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: in the.

985
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: Nineties.

986
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: Uh, really the the crux of the passing game of

987
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: The West coast offense is get these big linebackers on

988
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: an island against our fast running backs right and make

989
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 4: them cover over and over and over and oh oh,

990
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: wow all of a, sudden we all these receiving backs

991
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: making all these.

992
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: Catches it's.

993
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 4: Great that's where Ray lewis kind of like stop that

994
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: like where it's just like that doesn't become just a

995
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: clear advantage if you all the common THEME i think

996
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: just getting through all these guys and this one we're

997
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: talking about these needle, movers is these are the guys

998
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: that create. Matchups they create wins no matter who they go,

999
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: against which is the sign of a great. Player even

1000
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: when you're scouting a, guy it usually is what can

1001
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: they do? Consistently who can they beat? Consistently not every,

1002
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: time just, Consistently and and Ray lewis or these elite

1003
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 4: guys that we're talking, about it's, like, well it doesn't

1004
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: matter the matchup there consistently and then that's the sign

1005
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 4: of a great. Player AND i was just even as

1006
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: as you were saying his first year or the first

1007
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 4: year of this millennium two, thousand you, know Ray lewis

1008
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: was listed like two thirty. FIVE i think he came

1009
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: into the league at the other all pro linebackers are

1010
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 4: Like Jeremiah. Trotter Jeremiah trotter was listed at two sixty. Two,

1011
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: Okay so just talking about the other guys of this.

1012
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 4: Era Sam cowart for The bills listed at two forty,

1013
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: Eight Stephen boyd of The lions listed at to forty

1014
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: seven six foot two, percent so all these like just,

1015
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: hammerheads big, guys big. Bodies Ray lewis was, athletic but

1016
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: like your point was. Perfect he bridged the two eras

1017
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: that was this time period that was the late nineties

1018
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: into the two, thousands which was BRIDGING i, formation Early west,

1019
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: coastuff now getting into a little bit more, spread more

1020
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 4: single back stuff throughout the, league more two tight, ends

1021
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 4: more three, receivers but it's a linebacker that can stay

1022
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: on the field all three. Down it was so commonplace

1023
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: at this time period to have the true true because

1024
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: remember two defenses were signaling to go. True this is

1025
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 4: our base down defense and this is our late down,

1026
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: defense our nickel. Defense you, know nickel wasn't as common

1027
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: as it was, now but back then it was linebackers

1028
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: would just fully get swapped off where it was, like,

1029
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: okay this is and now that becomes such a tell

1030
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: that offenses are, like oh we'll pick on. That we

1031
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: know which looks you're getting. To but Ray lewis felt

1032
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: like one of these linebackers where it's LIKE i could

1033
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 4: be on the, LOOK i could be on the field

1034
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 4: no matter, What Like Mike nolan's alluding, to like he

1035
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: can just impact the game in all those. Ways so,

1036
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 4: yeah it's just it's so much fun to talk about

1037
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 4: all these guys BECAUSE i feel Like i'm repeating myself

1038
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: a little, bit but that's what these guys.

1039
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: Were, well, yeah we're at this part of the list,

1040
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: especially and they're the best at their very positions and

1041
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: they helped change their.

1042
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: Position and you think about him.

1043
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: Too he's the only Player and it's a weird stat

1044
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: for him BECAUSE i mentioned how he's like the all

1045
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: time leaning tackler and. Everything he's the only player IN

1046
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: nfl history with forty sacks and thirty. Interceptions you don't

1047
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: necessarily think of him like first as a blitzer or in,

1048
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: coverage ALTHOUGH i think you should in, coverage but to

1049
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: combine those sort of big plays at multiple. Levels and,

1050
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: yeah he got drafted in ninety, six so it's tricky

1051
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: like him And.

1052
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: Ogden ogden't in the, end didn't.

1053
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: Make this list because his best part of his career

1054
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: was early and Ray lewis did make two second Team all,

1055
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: pros even got Some Defensive player of The year votes

1056
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: before two thousand and a first Team All, pro but

1057
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: even after two. Thousand it's another five or six first

1058
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: teams and another second, team and he's just racking up.

1059
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Plays and to, me he kind of defines that. Position

1060
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: it's a position where it's a tough spot to. Make for,

1061
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: instance THE nfl one hundred all time, team and he

1062
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: was an obvious guy to be on. It let's listen

1063
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: To Bill. Belichick, actually as part of THAT nfl one hundred.

1064
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: Broadcast you could.

1065
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 8: Play a, run you could play the, past you could

1066
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 8: blitz if you had great instincts to handle the defense

1067
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 8: and you you knew your team, well you knew what

1068
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 8: they could, do and you certainly knew the opponents, well

1069
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 8: and he knew how to defend what they tried to.

1070
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 8: Do so it's obvious that your preparation paid.

1071
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: Off let me deal with.

1072
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: The pump and. Go that's Why i'm stin' ohigh on.

1073
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: That but he got to play.

1074
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 6: That remember when Playing, brady it's a test mat what what?

1075
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: What?

1076
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 6: So?

1077
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: What?

1078
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 8: Yeah WHAT i hated playing against.

1079
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: YOU i hated playing against.

1080
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: You. Uh that Was Ray lewis And Tom brady and

1081
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: the second to last clip there going what what back

1082
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: and forth to each. Other In, belichick who loves to to,

1083
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: uh you, know include himself in the history because he.

1084
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Should uh points out to Ray lewis in that conversation

1085
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and they're looking at each other's in the. EYES i,

1086
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: mean it is. Intense as he's telling him what a

1087
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: great player. Is he points out that Actually belichick made

1088
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: the trade for the extra first the year before he

1089
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: got fired In, cleveland so they had that extra first sitting.

1090
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: There because Of Bill, belichick he was not, around uh

1091
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: to see them take Ray, lewis and that is an amazing,

1092
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: uh just crossing of.

1093
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: Pasts it would have been cool to See belichick coach Ray.

1094
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: Lewis but the other side of that is because Of

1095
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: Bill belichick there in position to Take Jonathan ogen right.

1096
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: RIGHT i will speak For belichick, here and because Of Art,

1097
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: modell they were in. Position As belichick likes to point,

1098
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: out it's not great for your season when you announced

1099
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: the team is moving halfway halfway through the year and

1100
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: you got you got you, know fans.

1101
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: Ripped ripping up. Seats it's not.

1102
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: Great.

1103
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: Uh Mike singletary had a quote WHEN i was looking

1104
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: up to and he he coached Ray. LEWIS i don't

1105
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: know if you remember that that he was a position

1106
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: coach back, then AND i love it when all time

1107
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: greats give up the flowers to other similar.

1108
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: Ones and and.

1109
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: He In singletary, says, YEAH i see the, comparison like

1110
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: he always got compared To, singletary but he's, Like ray is.

1111
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: Better and he said he Thought ray is better physically and.

1112
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Mentally And Shannon sharp had a quote AND i think

1113
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: this has to be said when talking About Ray, lewis

1114
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: he thought he's the greatest leader in the history of team.

1115
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Sports Rod woodson, said who had been around and been

1116
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 1: on a lot of different teams, too said, Like i've

1117
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: never been a teammate with someone with that was such

1118
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: a giant force of personality that he truly dragged all.

1119
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: Of us with.

1120
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: Him and when he's talking about, us he's talking about

1121
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: Like hall Of fame guys like. Himself that he's never

1122
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: been around someone that was able to like just collectively

1123
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: bring up the energy of every single person around. Him

1124
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: AND i think that is part of the reason why

1125
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: WHY i put him, here that that sort of consistency

1126
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: over a career like, THAT i give him a little

1127
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: extra bump them.

1128
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 3: Up a few. Spots, yeah a moss, over but the, YEAH.

1129
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: I know you.

1130
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: Would this is What i'm gonna do, Now, nate every

1131
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: single rest of the guy on the. List i'm gonna be,

1132
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: like SHOULD i have Put Randy moss? Over like maybe

1133
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: MAYBE i agree with.

1134
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: You either, WAY i gotta see who comes in IRE

1135
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: i got, it and Then i'll probably be, like oh,

1136
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: yeah oh, yeah.

1137
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: A lot of. Quarterbacks we have a lot of.

1138
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, Yeah AND i totally get. That No in Ray lewis.

1139
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 4: TOO i know we're talking about pros and two. Thousands

1140
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: it's like he's he's THE u like the my he

1141
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 4: Epitomizes miami as, well just that competitive nature as. Well but,

1142
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah i'm glad he brought that. Up the leadership stuff as,

1143
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: well like that has to be. Said and again epitomizes

1144
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: what That ravens, defense WHICH i is always gonna be

1145
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: in my brain as like WHAT i thought was the

1146
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: more most, fearful scariest, Defenses those two Thousands ravens, defenses

1147
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: those are the ones in my brain as they are the.

1148
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Bar two Thousand ravens is the best defense of my.

1149
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: LIFETIME i, mean.

1150
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 4: Dominant you they snuffed out. Everybody it was just it

1151
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: was it was.

1152
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: Ridiculous was it was a different era in a, way

1153
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: and they.

1154
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: HELPED i THINK i think some of the rule changes

1155
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: were partly because of like how good The ravens and

1156
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: The bucks follow them up. Were but yeah that they

1157
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: are the absolute, best and SO i love Having Ray

1158
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: lewis as a representative uh for.

1159
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Them, nate you did.

1160
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: IT i hope you know your daughter has not woken

1161
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: up from her nap. Yet AND i appreciate you taking

1162
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: the time to take a trip down memory.

1163
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 3: Lane thank, you, Fun thank you for letting me your.

1164
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: RANT i felt like a comedian getting the red light

1165
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: during The Randy moss.

1166
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 2: Segment, no not at.

1167
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 5: ALL i.

1168
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: COULD i could keep going to. Me WHAT i found

1169
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 2: with this is LIKE i could do a whole.

1170
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: EPISODE i could do a whole episode On Randy moss

1171
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: or any of these.

1172
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 4: Guys that's how it. Goes but thank you for having.

1173
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: Me our next episode will be the fifth edition OF

1174
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: Nfl dailies twenty five players in twenty five, years and

1175
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: we will be joined by the legendary play by play

1176
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: Announcer Kevin. Harlan he will help us cover players seven through,

1177
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: four and hopefully somewhere Knight tis will be listening and

1178
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: being angry That Randy moss wasn't ranked over, them