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Speaker 5: Table of fantastic reporters who give you their unbiased take

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Speaker 5: on what they're seeing with the Dallas Cowboys. Got the

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Speaker 5: you set the master side You said you got his

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Speaker 5: degree from you and te master of education. Correct sir, yes, congratulations,

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Speaker 5: you well done, well done. Any we got Jack it

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Speaker 5: clear the longest serving tenure beat writer in Cowboys history

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Speaker 5: is that is that history or just recently that's history.

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Speaker 7: It's okay, really I looked it up because you know,

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Speaker 7: people say, whatever.

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Speaker 6: You write the book on that reset book.

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Speaker 8: Now, what happened with Bob Saint John really had it

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Speaker 8: at the Dallas Morning dais More news back in the day.

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Speaker 8: Then I surpassed Bob Saint John, and then I got

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Speaker 7: Emeritis just never left.

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Speaker 2: So I did check this longevity. Man, It's okay. I

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Speaker 2: don't mean great You don't mean greatness. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't mean greatness. You know, long jevity don't equal greatness.

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Speaker 7: Damn sure don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If we look at the Hall of Fame conversation, we're

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Speaker 5: not talking about Frank going right now, You're not gonna

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Speaker 5: talk about and it's let me shut up. I was

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Speaker 5: there the last time, Vincenzo. No, that wasn't the last

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Speaker 5: A few times when Benny won a playoff game Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 5: the only only playoff game Bill Evan won in Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: I was there, I mean through two touchdown passes big

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Speaker 5: Boss Parcels in the Patriots. So all right, let's start

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Speaker 5: off with some news that could affect the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Breaking news, and that's Pete Carroll is out as the

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Speaker 5: head coach of the Seattle Seahawks fourteen years, ten playoff appearances.

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Speaker 5: He's going to stay on as an advisor. So when

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Speaker 5: we think about it, I did bro No, I mean, hey, man,

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Speaker 5: keep you on advice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's one hundred and thirty seven years old.

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Speaker 6: Don't apologizing no, no, no, go ahead, Clarion.

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Speaker 2: I mean what it really means for the Cowboys and

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Speaker 2: why is Jermaine to this show in this segment is

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Speaker 2: because the favorite is Dan Quinn. And now Dad Quinn

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Speaker 2: is already the hot on the list of four different teams.

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Speaker 2: Now or Washington, the commanders of the Panthers, uh, the

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Speaker 2: Chargers and the Titans better request to see to speak

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Speaker 2: to Dad Quinn about the head head coaching opening today

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Speaker 2: at the Mike Brabell was let go yes today and

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Speaker 2: certainly the Pete Carroll then came down today. Actually right

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Speaker 2: before we went to the locker room, the bombshell dropped.

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Speaker 2: And it's the easy, most logical assumption that Dan Quinn

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Speaker 2: will be a leading candidate there. He was the architect

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Speaker 2: of the leading the boom defense. He was the architect

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Speaker 2: It was bringing family home.

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Speaker 7: You will press conference all of that.

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Speaker 2: So you're bringing family home, you know, some of they

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Speaker 2: to day. But yeah, dan Quinn could could if there

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Speaker 5: So I think about Pete as an advisor. So if

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Speaker 5: they keep Pete as an advisor and John Schneider still

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Speaker 5: the general manager, this is a guy they've worked.

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Speaker 6: With, the guy that they went a Super Bowl with.

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Speaker 5: And to me, if I'm the GM and we all

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Speaker 6: A coach they can work with.

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Speaker 5: Right, they've got that together, and while it failed at USC,

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Speaker 5: they can trying to find another peak disciple who could

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Speaker 6: I think dan Quinn makes the most sense. And while

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Speaker 5: Picky about where he goes, for dan Quinn, there's got

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Speaker 7: And he had success as a head coach before.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and being picky said I don't wan go

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Speaker 8: Not just that, but the fact that Pete Carroll been

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Speaker 8: in the fourteen season. Every year ain't been great, so

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Speaker 8: they not quick trigger. You know, he got some capital

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Speaker 8: because he won the Super Bowl, but every year is

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Speaker 10: I also think you have you have a quarterback that

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Speaker 10: justin Herbert. It's not the Chargers opening. But I mean

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Speaker 10: you're also not going to Washington where the pros are different.

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Speaker 10: You have a tough number two pick and you can

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Speaker 10: maybe find your guy. But over here you have a

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Speaker 2: So which again brings us back to the Cowboys and

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Speaker 2: and and the current head coach here. I mean, let's

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Speaker 2: be honest, Jerry Jones. Dad Quinn has been an apple

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Speaker 2: of Jerry Jones out the last couple of years. You know,

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Speaker 2: he kind of threw made things uncomfortable Mike his first

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Cowboys, why he wouldn't let him go.

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Speaker 2: He didn't want to let him go, even though Mike

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Speaker 2: was the coach of the Cowboys. You know, that was

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Speaker 2: that was after twenty twenty one season, you know, and

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Speaker 2: he certainly wanted to keep him, so said the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: lose Green Bay. No, do you let Dan walk? Yes,

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Speaker 2: you let Dan walk? You keep Mike? Yes, I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking the question. Yes, it's on the table.

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Speaker 5: I did a commentary at it. I put it up

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Speaker 5: on my social media page. To get rid of Mike

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Speaker 5: McCarthy means you need to replace two positions. You would

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Speaker 5: if you think about Just go through CD Lamb's numbers

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Speaker 5: Lamb finished the twenty twenty three regular season leading all

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Speaker 6: This has been CD Lamb's best career effort.

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott is going to finish top three, no less

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Speaker 5: than top five in the MVP V.

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Speaker 6: That is what Mike McCarthy call on the plays.

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Speaker 5: If Mike McCarthy was just the play caller here, not

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Speaker 5: the head coach, he'd be on everybody's.

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Speaker 6: List right now for a job interview.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if that slow guy from Houston is getting

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy just based on a play caller here would

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Speaker 5: be the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Even though CD had to cut him out to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that would not make opening season plan kept

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Speaker 5: And what what what what does anybody at a what

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Speaker 5: what do good people do?

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Speaker 2: Good leaders?

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Speaker 6: You adjust the game plan, right.

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Speaker 2: I understand that, But that doesn't mean again, I hear you,

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Speaker 2: and I think we're going he is just a game plan,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I hear you, and I think

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Speaker 2: Michae is done a great job. He doesn' get enough

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Speaker 2: credit for twelve five. I'm like Jerry, Jerry had the

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Speaker 2: does not get enough credit for what he's done, how

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Speaker 2: he's managed the team. Certainly even last year winning four

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Speaker 2: games without Dak Prescott, we see this year that doesn't happen. Uh.

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Speaker 2: But the bottom line is this. The goal is not

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Speaker 2: The goal is to win in the playoffs, win super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And it's yes, so this week, but you've gotten you

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Speaker 2: Get My point is this, if they go one and done,

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Speaker 2: I'll bet you off. I hear you, I understand it.

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Speaker 2: I see your point of view. If they go one

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Speaker 2: have a bad time. I'm eighty some years old. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to win now. I'm just saying that. That's that's

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Speaker 2: Those are the legitimal we talked before the trading cawnt so,

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Speaker 2: We talked to him and the walk homey, you know,

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Speaker 2: Tald try to ask about and betting on himself, and

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Speaker 2: So and it's not just about the play calling, because

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Speaker 2: it wasn't it was about to play calling and getting

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Speaker 2: getting you to the next level. It's not about having

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Speaker 2: a better offense. It's about having a offense and a

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 10: I think what what also carries a lot of weight

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Speaker 10: here is the way Dak talks about McCarthy and the

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Speaker 10: way Dak talks about how much of an impact McCarthy

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Speaker 10: and not just his his play. I mean, we've talked

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Speaker 10: you know, the way that routes have changed, understanding and

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Speaker 10: I think I think when your franchise quarterback, who you're

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Speaker 10: absolutely going to sign to an extension, UH, has that

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Speaker 10: kind of vote of confidence in McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you just let him.

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Speaker 7: Go, Yeah, they couldn't love for killing More.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did, Yes he did.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, he did.

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Speaker 2: I was here from day one with killing Moore, today

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Speaker 2: end with killing Moore. He loved the deck out of

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Speaker 2: killing Moore.

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Speaker 10: He did, But he doesn't and he doesn't and he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Deny that even today. But it's different with McCarthy.

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Speaker 10: He even talks about how it's different when you have

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Speaker 10: the talent versus the wisdom and the experience.

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Speaker 2: I understand that we all say this, we all love

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Speaker 2: that wife at one time. Okay, I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: some of us a divorce. I'm just keep it real.

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Speaker 2: He's still married to Mike. Okay. If if they moved

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Speaker 2: coordinatoran Keillen. He's been a hot guy. He was, He's

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Speaker 5: And he's put the team in a position to get there.

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Speaker 5: This is this is one of their better opportunities, I think,

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Speaker 4: That they was to get to the NFC title game.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 5: That best opportunity there was the number one right when

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about going back since the Super Bowl? No,

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Speaker 2: I think two thousand and seven was the best opportunity

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Speaker 2: You know, that's two thousand and seven with the best opportunity.

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Speaker 6: And that was on Marion Ellen.

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Speaker 2: You don't have Aaron Rodgers in front of you right now.

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Speaker 2: So we're asking, we're asking to compare the two. You

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Speaker 6: He said, but I'm just saying they had. In twenty sixteen, you.

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Speaker 2: Had a Hall of Famer scoot ball winning championship quarterback

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Speaker 6: Of your team. Didn't have any running backs that day.

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Speaker 2: You had Aaron Rodgers in front of you. You don't

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Speaker 2: have Aaron Rodgers in front of you. That's the difference,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion. I'm sorry you don't have that resume

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Speaker 5: You were still you still had a better team and

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Speaker 6: They didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a better disagree with you,

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Speaker 10: Right? Man?

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Speaker 2: Who steen? Which why he gave up the third and thirty.

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Speaker 7: On the thirty three game to a tighty Jared Cook.

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Speaker 6: The sign and your boy mister Heath allmore to get there.

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Speaker 2: You know and offensive. You weren't aggressive enough early on

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Speaker 6: I think you have a better Yeah, okay, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 6: give you that. Yes, Jason Garrett was yes, fight, let's

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Speaker 2: have won no titles. One for that one of the titles,

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Speaker 2: you know. I always thought that it was about the ring.

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Speaker 2: It's about winning.

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Speaker 8: It's not getting there when you I mean, there's were

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Speaker 8: just differentiating between I mean to say that there's no

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're the big bad Wolf.

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Speaker 8: Now that don't mean you can't beat them because they

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Speaker 7: So they could be. I mean, they're not an invisible team,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is why it was the can

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Speaker 7: In sixteenth straight, good going over together.

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Speaker 2: So you go, if you go to San Francisco, despite

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Speaker 10: Day, especially because I think San Francisco is a team

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Speaker 10: that right now, unquestionably I think they're they're the best

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Speaker 6: But stopid, but stop.

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Speaker 2: Did you miss the Baltimore game? This man, did you

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Speaker 10: Are you seriously gonna sit here and act like it's

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Speaker 6: Like, get out here, Hell yeah, in the damn.

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Speaker 2: NFL now, I can say the NFC, the NFL in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore beat them.

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Speaker 5: My three touches, Bill Polling over here.

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Speaker 10: Okay, even if you disagree, like, stop, can I get

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Speaker 2: When they got beyuld with all that, when they got

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Speaker 5: Ago, I say, lady man, explaining to the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: Regardless of what they are though as a team, I

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Speaker 10: We've seen them in terms of debo Trent Williams, whenever

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Speaker 10: And I think that's one thing that you don't know

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Speaker 5: So side I asked this question, what did you see

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Speaker 10: Because I'm looking at the consistency of the entire season,

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Speaker 2: Ers to win.

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Speaker 5: Okay, picking them to win, versus saying, right now, they're

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Speaker 6: Thats better than the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Just asking beat them?

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Speaker 2: Right if they be at stated, we have a different

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Speaker 2: conversation Giants, Yeah, right now they are they beat them? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Werner made it there. Ed rushers were Miles Garrett and

442
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Speaker 5: Max Crosby.

443
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Speaker 6: So TJ.

444
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 5: Watt did not make the list despite leading the league

445
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 5: in nineteen sacks. So you've got and I saw one

446
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 5: person who had their Defensive Player.

447
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 6: Of the Year list.

448
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 2: I'd had what one?

449
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 5: And and uh no it was it was Garrett one

450
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 5: and Parson second? Or was what one and Parson second?

451
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 5: So anyway, this is the NFL p A list and

452
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 5: it's the players that's the play. As the second year

453
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Speaker 5: that the players have left Michael Parson song.

454
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: Second straight. This is the second time.

455
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Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I think when you got edges Man,

456
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 8: there's Miles Garrett, the's t J.

457
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Speaker 7: Watt, there's Michaeh.

458
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 8: Max Scrabsy's outstanding I mean as the competition that that

459
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 8: is is intense, and I can't sit here and be

460
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 8: moaning and growing giving the competition that that spot if

461
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 8: he gets left, and.

462
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 5: That listed off ball linebacker two, so he's not an

463
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 5: off ball linebacker. I was just saying, if you wanted

464
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 5: to go there until they decided an edge.

465
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 7: So you're trying to get.

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, do we have a problem. I mean, it's

467
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: not we have a problem. It's if Michael has a

468
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: problem because upset. I'm sure you don't like it. You know,

469
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: you want to be recognized by your players, your fellow players.

470
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Speaker 2: And I think that there is a problem in a

471
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Speaker 2: sense because you're right from a number standpoint, it's hard

472
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Speaker 2: to quibble. But turn on the tape, turn on tape.

473
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Speaker 7: We're saying, we're saying that they don't those guys don't

474
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Speaker 7: deserve it.

475
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Speaker 2: I didn't say.

476
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Speaker 7: I mean when you say turn on tape, the intimation

477
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 7: is that turn on the tape. You'll see that Mike

478
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 7: is better than it's like it's.

479
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Speaker 2: Like earlier this year when when uh, what's your way?

480
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: Then you speak with the Jets. He's a commentator now

481
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: the lotuy mart Scott's crazy, but tried to compare, uh,

482
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: the Eagles edge Russia number seven to Parsons, and I said,

483
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: he's not in the same category. And that doesn't mean

484
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: that that Reddick is not a good pass rusher. He

485
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: don't do what Michael does. He don't draw the double teams. Michael,

486
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Speaker 2: does you know he's not the same impact player. Mike, Yes,

487
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: he has a lot of sacks. And so when when

488
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: I look at these other guys and I say, yes,

489
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Speaker 2: they got numbers, are they? Micah? That they you know,

490
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Speaker 2: when you add up all the things that they do

491
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Speaker 2: and what they open up for other people, and when

492
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Speaker 2: you talk about hits on the quarterback and pass rush

493
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: win way, which you don't, most people don't look at that.

494
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: They just look at sacks. They look at even the player.

495
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: That's that's what kills me about everybody thinks the players

496
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Speaker 2: know everything. Even the players. They're gonna look at it.

497
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Speaker 2: Who's leading the sacks? Okay, that's what local It's like

498
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Speaker 2: most mediunt get it. They Yeah, they do the same thing.

499
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying though that that that's that is interesting though.

500
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: But so yeah, on paper, you can say I understand category,

501
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: But if you're picking a team, who you picking, you're

502
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: picking them over Michael.

503
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Speaker 7: So here's the question, miss would be. I ain't watched Themorrow.

504
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Speaker 8: I watched mikee every snap, I hadn't watched the mother

505
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 8: Cats every since. Would you take my Max Crosby off

506
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 8: the list side and put Michaen.

507
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would.

508
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Speaker 10: I don't really have a problem with Miles Garrett, but

509
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Speaker 10: I would take Mike over Max Crosby.

510
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: I probably take t J. Watt over Max Crosby too.

511
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Speaker 7: Over Max Crosby.

512
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the right here, the two right here are

513
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett and Max Crossby. And I think we're consensus

514
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: that Miles Garrett.

515
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Speaker 13: Is that guy.

516
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Speaker 6: It should be on that list.

517
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Speaker 8: Yeah, probably Max Crosby because we're looking at two spots,

518
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 8: Max Crosby. Crosby harassed the hell out of the peck

519
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 8: Pat Pat Mahomes.

520
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. And that's the game you saw.

521
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Speaker 8: This gave you remember, because I said I don't watch

522
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 8: so I mean anyway, I'm just I also watched him

523
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 8: beat up, beat up the coast and tell the quarterback

524
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 8: if a little les boy.

525
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 5: So and and and I go back to a quote

526
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 5: that that Duck Collins when he was a commentator, was

527
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 5: talking to the media about the All Star Game, NBA

528
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 5: All Star Game, and and people were talking about some

529
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 5: snubs and the Mavericks and and Duck said, look, if

530
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 5: you play at a high level long enough, you will

531
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Speaker 5: probably miss one you should have made, and you'll probably make.

532
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Speaker 6: One you shouldn't. And maybe that's just the time for

533
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons. But along the way here.

534
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Speaker 2: This this is, this is, this is what it is.

535
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Speaker 6: So it's the player. So Michael Parson didn't talk to

536
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: Will He talked tomorrow.

537
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: He's supposed he's expensive to talk to Marrow. Michael didn't talk.

538
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: Tony Potter did talk as his normal day and we

539
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: actually got uh Stephan Gilmour. We can't in locker room.

540
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: You know, he's really the person to watch this week.

541
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Speaker 2: You know, Zach Martin did played last week. He was ill,

542
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: but from all intensive purposes, he's good to go. He's

543
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: feeling better. He went to to walk through. He didn't

544
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: have a practice, he didn't practice day because it was

545
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: a normal veteran day off. But there's no question that

546
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: he's going to play. We talked to Tyler Smith. He

547
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: said that his foot was being better, you know, it

548
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: was getting better from the plane of faciaitis.

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 10: Uh.

550
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: He was limited today. He hopes to do more uh

551
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: tomorrow and tested out. He's looking forward to play. But

552
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: again with this team, with this Packers team, in that

553
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: receiving court, that quarterback.

554
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 8: Uh.

555
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: The one to watch is certain Stefan Gilmour, who suffered

556
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: a separated shoulder, this located shoulder in the Washington game.

557
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's not some practice all week, doesn't

558
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: plan on practicing this week. They're gonna be caught with him.

559
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: But he said he's gonna give it to go. He

560
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: may wear harness, but he's gonna try to give it

561
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: to go. He plans on playing on Saturday sundaygest thing with.

562
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Speaker 8: Him is not past because it's his run defense. Can

563
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 8: you come up and support the run when they when

564
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 8: they run it that way? Because obviously, guess take your

565
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 8: shoulder in there, and if you let Green Bay get

566
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Speaker 8: his running game going, now you've got problems.

567
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Speaker 4: I think, Uh.

568
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Speaker 10: I think the depth that they have at cornerback also

569
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 10: just really requires him to play because you're already down

570
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 10: one and you know once you went down Trayvon, I mean,

571
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 10: now you're playing with the three that you really want

572
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 10: to play with. You really want to have Gilmour, uh

573
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 10: Bland and Lewis, and you want to have those three.

574
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 10: You don't want to you don't want to dig any

575
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 10: deeper on your depth chart.

576
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: So Green Bay especially just because you go back to

577
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: the last year's game and and and really big dig

578
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: more deep in that. We just talked to Dac about

579
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: last year's game as well. But that was the difference

580
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: in that game when the cornerbacks got hurt and and

581
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: and they were playing with me and you out there. Yeah, seriously,

582
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean that that that that that was that was

583
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: part of the during little secret in that game what

584
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: they gave up that lead too, because the secondary couldn't

585
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: do anything to stop.

586
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: Brown went out and his replacement was not good. Yeah,

587
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Watson went out there and had it with a hat trick.

588
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah it was his was killing him over the top.

589
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that that's important.

590
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 6: No longer here that players the players no longer here.

591
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: But you know one reason why Dak is so great. Uh,

592
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: tomorrow's day to talk, you know. But he sat and

593
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: came in there and was talking. We was talking ball,

594
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: you know, and talking the difference and uh, his understanding

595
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: of the game. We talked about, you know, we talked

596
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: earlier about his just connection with with Mike McCarthy and

597
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: the difference between he and Kellen Moore and what he

598
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: knows more about it, and then we go back to

599
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: that someone of those interceptions in that game. He said that,

600
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, one thing they're doing this year is they're

601
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: showing video to the receivers of what Dak sees, so

602
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: they understand what he sees. So you know, when they

603
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, everybody understanding the whole play and

604
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: the concept of play, what everybody's trying to do, they did.

605
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: They weren't always on the same page last year, and

606
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: that led to a few of the interceptions, and certainly

607
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: it started, you know with a couple of interceptions in

608
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: that Green Bay game that won't happen this year. You know,

609
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: because CD, instead of cutting underhea cut behind. You know

610
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: that that player with the middle of reception of the

611
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: middle was CD did not run that route right and

612
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: he didn't see what Dak saw. And so he said,

613
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: those type of things will happen to today. That that's,

614
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: you know, been part of the kid them not having

615
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: the same interceptions yet last year they have a better

616
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: understanding of the concept and what Dak sees and they're

617
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 2: all on the same page. And again it goes back

618
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: to that Green Bay game.

619
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: So green Bay comes in here having finished the year strong.

620
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: Jordan Love is second in the NFL in passing touchdowns

621
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: behind Dak Prescott first year as the starting quarterback thirty

622
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 5: two touchdown passes.

623
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Speaker 6: They can run the football. I talked to Dan Quinn,

624
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 6: you were there.

625
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: We claims you were there too, And when I asked

626
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: that question about what do you see in as the

627
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: run game, and he talked about the ability for them

628
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: to have play action passing there and what you just

629
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: talked about about Gilmore coming up in the run game

630
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: here and a crowd that is going to be big.

631
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: If Green Bay can help their quarterback, they got to

632
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: run the ball here.

633
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 8: I mean, at the end of the day, football ain't

635
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 8: really never changed, which is you have to stop the run.

636
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 8: Even though teams don't run it as much anymore, it

637
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 8: don't matter. You have to stop the run, make them

638
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 8: one dimensional them. Then you go take care of business.

639
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 8: They get the running game going, it's gonna be it's

640
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 8: gonna be an all day game. If they don't, then

641
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 8: you got a chance for you know, third quarter or not.

642
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 10: That and past years don't always have a whole lot

643
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 10: to do with what's going on this year. But just

644
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 10: a crazy trivia thing of most yards per game against

645
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 10: the Cowboys all time, and number three is Walter Payton,

646
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 10: number two Barry Sanders, and number one Aaron Jones. So

647
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 10: Aaron Jones has had a lot of success against the

648
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 10: Cowboys in his past.

649
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: I remember waving get back going to the zone.

650
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I think I think, yeah, you're right, it's

651
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 10: gonna be absolutely crucial. And I think I think dan

652
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 10: Quinn we talked about how he's up for all these

653
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 10: jobs and how great he's done. I mean, this is

654
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 10: first year quarterback, first year starting quarterback, first playoff game.

655
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: This is dan Quinn's time to shine. And the defense

656
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: and everything like that too.

657
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you gotta take advantage, yum. And I know

658
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: he's a guy that holds ball that I think they

659
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: can get the ball, unlike Aaron Rodgers on that play

660
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when Jeff he should have

661
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Speaker 2: knocked that ball out of his hand before he made that.

662
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Speaker 2: This is a guy that he's a good player, but

663
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: he's loose with the football. Sometimes when he scrambled, and

664
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Speaker 2: when he's passing, he doesn't always keep it right here,

665
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Speaker 2: so there's an opportunity to get the ball out. But

666
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Speaker 2: I would say one thing about this though, is let's

667
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Speaker 2: let's give Green Bay Packers organization credit. They know how

668
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Speaker 2: to find a quarterback. They know how to identify and

669
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Speaker 2: find their quarterback. I also piggyback on what you said there.

670
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Speaker 5: The way they've gone about it is where most teams won't. Hey,

671
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Speaker 5: we've got a quarterback here who along the way is

672
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Speaker 5: starting to show us said, we don't know. We're not

673
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Speaker 5: sure about their long term intentions, so we'll draft the

674
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Speaker 5: guy and let the guy sit. Aaron Rodgers sat behind

675
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Speaker 5: far Jordan Love sat behind Rogers. Both quarterbacks learned from

676
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Speaker 5: the other. And I think, if you're Green Bay right now,

677
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Speaker 5: despite all the criticisms the GM Brian Goodikins took man,

678
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Speaker 5: they don't have to deal with any of Aaron's stuff

679
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: that we're seeing out here right now. They didn't have

680
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Speaker 5: to hire any Aaron's four receivers.

681
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Speaker 6: And bring in his coach. They are able to run

682
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Speaker 6: their organization Aaron free, and they look their future looks bright.

683
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Speaker 10: The Jets future is and you know, it's even more

684
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Speaker 10: impressive to me with Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers than

685
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 10: it was with Rogers and far because back then it

686
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 10: was pretty commonplace to let your starter, to let your

687
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Speaker 10: high draft pick, first round pick, kind of sit for

688
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Speaker 10: a year or two years. Nowadays, I mean, you get

689
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Speaker 10: drafted in the first round, you're you're pretty much you

690
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Speaker 10: gotta play.

691
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Speaker 4: And they went against the grain kind.

692
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Speaker 10: Of and went old school and let Jordan Love sit

693
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Speaker 10: and let him run learn from Aaron Rodgers, and it's paying.

694
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Speaker 6: Off in some way.

695
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Speaker 5: I saw Trey Lance in the locker room today, and

696
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Speaker 5: I wonder long term if the Cowboys can can develop

697
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Speaker 5: him in a fashion in which the Packers do developed Jordan.

698
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Speaker 6: Look, obviously we're not going to see that anytime soon.

699
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Speaker 5: I think with way Dak Prescott's playing, but I just

700
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Speaker 5: wonder can they develop the young man in that passion.

701
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Speaker 7: I think his his his value will come based on

702
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Speaker 7: what we know as of today.

703
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 8: His value will come whether they can get him and

704
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 8: make him play well enough in the preseason to make

705
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Speaker 8: somebody go, oh he can. He might be that dude

706
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Speaker 8: and get a second round pick or perhaps the first.

707
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Speaker 8: Because I don't think Dak's going anywhere for four or

708
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Speaker 8: five years, and this is just now. You know, all

709
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 8: that happened, all that has to happen is due to

710
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Speaker 8: is Dak missed three games.

711
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Speaker 6: He come in, he played great, which is.

712
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Speaker 2: What I was gonna say.

713
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Speaker 6: It is what Cooper Rush did last.

714
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Speaker 4: Year also, but like Cooper Rush was a career backup.

715
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Speaker 10: I think the comparable there would be Jimmy Garoppolo when

716
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Speaker 10: Brady was suspended for four games. Jimmy Garoppolo had good preseasons,

717
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Speaker 10: second round pick came in, had a good game and

718
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 10: a half before he got hurt, and then Jacoby Brissett

719
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 10: had to come in. But that was enough for short

720
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Speaker 10: San Francisco and big contract. All it took was that

721
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Speaker 10: one one and a half game.

722
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Speaker 7: This league is so starved for quarterbacks. Man, if you

723
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Speaker 7: just show him a little leg.

724
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Again, he did show him a little leg, and they

725
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: didn't like it. I mean, I mean, I hear, I

726
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: hear what we're saying. But he got hurt.

727
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Speaker 7: Then the guests the planet.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was tape out of him. Well you know,

729
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: you know didn't nobody was offering more than the Cowboys

730
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Speaker 2: offering that draft pick for him. I mean, you know

731
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: he still played. There's still tape out there that he

732
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: was still a quote first top three pick. Uh that

733
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: was on that was up for grounds. And it wasn't

734
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: like it was a whole lot of suitors he started.

735
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Speaker 7: He had some games he still had that.

736
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Speaker 5: I'll photo out here because I was listening to Chris

737
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Speaker 5: Sims NBC Sports and and Chris and Kyle Shannonhan go

738
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Speaker 5: way back to Texas when they played together, Chris Chris under.

739
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Speaker 2: Got tattooed each other leg. Yeah, that's dude, that is true.

740
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Speaker 7: I mean, I know it's true, but I don't know

741
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Speaker 7: about know that's true.

742
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: But anyway, they're they're they're very close. He understands his offense.

743
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 5: And when they traded up to three, Chris Sims was

744
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 5: adamant Jones. Mac Jones is a guy. He fits what

745
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: he does. Kirk Cousins, this is where he can run

746
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: that system. And the Trey Lance thing, he didn't get it.

747
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: And the was that collaboration that everybody's trying to do

748
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 5: in the NFL. So the collaboration ended up winning out

749
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 5: and they took Trey Lance.

750
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Speaker 6: He just didn't fit.

751
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: And so I say to you about about him. Okay,

752
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 5: whatever he did with the forty nine ers, that's what

753
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 5: he did there. But what if Mike McCarthy can find

754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: a way.

755
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: To utilize the player.

756
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Speaker 6: That's the hope. I would say.

757
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: If you're if you're in the Trey Lance business here

758
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: at the Cowboys, hey, we think we've got a system

759
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: and we can take advantage of what the player does.

760
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 6: That will be a little bit different than what did

761
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 6: not work for him in San Francis.

762
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Speaker 2: I agree to Listen. I Likedrey Lance, great kid, love

763
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: him as a person. But you remember with Kansas City,

764
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: Patrick Holme, rookie year, Yeah, Alex Smith, people raved nobody

765
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: in practice, raved about it. That's been the cross starter.

766
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: But Patrick mahone was doing some wonderful things with practice.

767
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 7: They waved about Tony Romoin practice.

768
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Too, they did. And I'm just saying that I don't

769
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: know that there's been a lot of raving. I'm not

770
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: you know, it ain't been no you know, it ain't

771
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: been no poop one. But I don't know. I don't,

772
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't remember, I don't. I haven't heard anybody just

773
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: talk about him tearing up the defense. Okay, that's all

774
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I mean, listen, you know I think Jerry

775
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: was throwing some stuff against the wall. Okay, here's a

776
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: chance to get which they love, to get a quarterback

777
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Speaker 2: on the cheap. You know, we're gonna give up a

778
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: fourth fifth round pick. You know, maybe we can we

779
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: can find some here. But to sit up here and

780
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: you know, and there's so much talk about it because

781
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: the wather forty Niners drafted him. Sure, okay, and that's

782
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: really what it is. But you know, we're we got

783
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: to find out that there's a lot of substance there.

784
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Speaker 5: And he's young and was twenty three. Yeah, he's so

785
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: I mean, this this is you're I'm not poo pouring

786
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 5: your point. This is this is the bet you made,

787
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Speaker 5: young guy.

788
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Speaker 6: Can we grow him?

789
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Speaker 9: Can we?

790
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Speaker 6: I Mean, I look at Cooper Rush coming out of

791
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Speaker 6: Central Michigan.

792
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Speaker 5: I would have never thought he would have done as

793
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 5: many things as he's done in his career with the Cowboys,

794
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 5: winning the kind of games and having having the kind

795
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: of career he's had. In fact, I'm surprised that he

796
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: wasn't scooped up on the market from the standpoint of

797
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: we see when I look at who's got back up

798
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks that somebody would have put a little bit of

799
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: money in the Cooper rush and bring it me because.

800
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Speaker 2: But he has a choice on that to him, like,

801
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Speaker 2: if I'm going to be a backup, I'd rather be

802
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 2: here being a backup. I mean, I'm just not gonna

803
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: go somewhere and be a backup. So I ain't bottom line,

804
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Speaker 2: I mean pay ten million for him to be a backup? No, no,

805
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: but but I'm just interested to see what could Trey

806
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: land money? You know, a lot of money.

807
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Speaker 6: One of the best careers of all time, I won't

808
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Speaker 6: say careers, one of the best agents negotiating damn.

809
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: Good money, Kyle Lordon when he got all that money

810
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: with him Kyle Lordon golfing and then just looking to

811
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: the playbook for a little bit. So I'll just be

812
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Speaker 5: in there.

813
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Speaker 6: Can they can they develop him?

814
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Speaker 5: And obviously Mike McCarthy and Green Bay where the they

815
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 5: That was a whole kind of mantra over there for

816
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: years under Ted Thompson, US developed young quarterbacks and Ron

817
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: Wolfe was drafting young guys.

818
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Speaker 6: Could they get something out of them?

819
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Speaker 8: Uh?

820
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Speaker 6: Houston? I mean when they when they fleeced Jerry for

821
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: a third rounder for Drew Hinton. I agree with what

822
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Speaker 6: you said.

823
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Speaker 2: Jack.

824
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Speaker 5: If he can show a little something and if he

825
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 5: has to play, then then maybe maybe that's the whole thing.

826
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 6: It's it's all a maybe.

827
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Speaker 7: Well he's only throwing a hundred two passes in his career,

828
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 7: so you know.

829
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: A lot of lesson.

830
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Speaker 6: Look, there's a lot of work and we'll see.

831
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Speaker 5: I would say this based on what Mike McCarthy has

832
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Speaker 5: done and his work with the quarterbacks here, I feel

833
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 5: if something could happen, I feel that this is the

834
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Speaker 5: guy to do it.

835
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Speaker 4: I mean, he had a guy in Green Bay, Matt Flynn.

836
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Speaker 6: What a good game up.

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Speaker 7: I was just thinking about man. Sure enough he broke

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Speaker 7: the bank Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Yea Pete Carroll and Johnson. I went to a rote,

840
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Speaker 5: Hey here's twenty seven million or whatever.

841
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Speaker 2: Yes, So so that that's that for me. That's it.

842
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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I mean, if your boy Tommy

844
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Speaker 6: DeVito can get some shine for two seconds.

845
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Speaker 2: And shine shine and getting paid two different things that

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Speaker 2: Tom Brito was trying to get paid with it that

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Speaker 2: uh potograph, that Italian shot, you know, end up doing

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Speaker 2: Let's roll back the table.

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Speaker 4: Would you there, doctor?

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Speaker 2: My friend supported me during a tough time. But what's

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Speaker 2: the right gift that says thanks.

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Speaker 6: For being the soldier to cry out?

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Speaker 14: Okay, this one's easy, I say, give her a delicious

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Speaker 14: Doctor Pepper. Nothing says thanks good better than one of

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Speaker 14: a kind soda. Yes, any Doctor Pepper flavor will do. Now,

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Speaker 14: just reminder that I don't need to be a real

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Speaker 14: doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the one you deserve.

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Speaker 2: Back to media Mash.

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Speaker 5: Media, mash Mediamash Media, Mash Vis Glance Hillside. You said,

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Speaker 5: Jack Taylor, I am NEWI scruggs. Okay, sad for you Sunday.

901
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Speaker 5: Give me your player that maybe off the radar. We'll

902
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: be talking about for the Cowboys afterwards.

903
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Speaker 6: If things go well.

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Speaker 10: I think Marquise Bell will have will have an impact

905
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Speaker 10: because again you talked about needing.

906
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Speaker 4: To stop the run game.

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Speaker 10: I think, uh, if they're able to do that with

908
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 10: you know, a pick between Marquis Bell Damone Clark one

909
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Speaker 10: of the two linebackers. I think if they're able to

910
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Speaker 10: play well and uh and stifle the run, then I

911
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 10: think once you get Jordan Love one dimensional, then it's

912
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Speaker 10: gonna be your known, your known guys, Deron Bland, Gilmore,

913
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Speaker 10: Jay Ron curs those guys in the back. But I

914
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Speaker 10: think Damon Clark and Marquise Bell, if you're talking about

915
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Speaker 10: underrated guys, those are guys I would look for.

916
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Speaker 5: All right, Jaque Talk is this podcast probably where I've

917
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Speaker 5: never been on it. But anyway, when you're.

918
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Speaker 8: Tuning the Shock Talk podcast, Uh, who's that cowboy? My

919
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 8: guy's a guy who's been flashing the last three weeks.

920
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Speaker 8: It's Donovan Wilson because he can come and bring it

921
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Speaker 8: and make some things happen in the running game from

922
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Speaker 8: the safety spot. He's a playmaker, and the Playoffs to me,

923
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Speaker 8: is all about playmakers. You know, your stars have to

924
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Speaker 8: do their thing and then you need your supporting cast

925
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Speaker 8: to show up. And I think Donovan Wilson's been showing

926
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Speaker 8: up a little bit lately and it's about his time.

927
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Speaker 2: Is unsung is Jason Is Ferguson unsung guy.

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Speaker 7: He's not a star, So yeah, you can mean you

929
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Speaker 7: can talk about him.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that you know what the Cowboys do,

931
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Speaker 2: how they want to play defense. Ferguson he hates the Packers.

932
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Speaker 2: He grew up in Wisconsin raider fan, didn't like the Packers.

933
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Speaker 2: I called him a hater the other day, you said,

934
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Speaker 2: you just grew up a hater. She said, they put

935
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Speaker 2: it too much in your face. Everybody was a Packer fan.

936
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Speaker 2: He just went the other way. That's it's like Nicole

937
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Speaker 2: people like this hat. You know, that's okay, that's what

938
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Speaker 2: he has a farmer in the same way.

939
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Speaker 7: But who's actually got more teams than they might have

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Speaker 7: made my life.

941
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Speaker 2: A team Dallas and hates the Dallas teams because teams

942
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Speaker 2: win championships too. Well, yeah, because he's a bad wagon jumper.

943
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Speaker 2: But you know, but I but I think Ferguson, But

944
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Speaker 2: what I think Ferguson, you know, had the chance. And

945
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Speaker 2: I would also say Hankins. You know, this run defense,

946
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Speaker 2: as we saw last week, is different when big hangars

947
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Speaker 2: on the field and and and you know one key,

948
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Speaker 2: major key is stopping to run. And Hankins makes a

949
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Speaker 2: huge difference for this run defense.

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Speaker 10: He's on the field and with Brandon Cooks, by the way,

951
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Speaker 10: just a fascinating stat that that is what it is

952
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Speaker 10: is the twenty yard stat.

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Speaker 4: It's the twenty yard stat.

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Speaker 10: There I believe twelve and oh this year when he

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Speaker 10: has at least twenty yards oh and five when he doesn't,

956
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Speaker 10: it's again, I don't.

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Speaker 4: It's not get a twenty yard completion, you win the game.

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Speaker 10: It's more about the involvement of Okay, you can't like

959
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Speaker 10: the offense, absolutely should one percent run through CD Lamb,

960
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Speaker 10: no question about it. But you want to get cooks involved.

961
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Speaker 10: You want to have you want to have that threat there.

962
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Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, twenty yards twelve and oh

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Speaker 10: not twenty yards oh and five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think about thinking about cooks is that

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Speaker 2: they want to get them involved. But they don't have

966
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Speaker 2: to force it to him. He's just such a good

967
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Speaker 2: natural receiver. Thieves come to them. He has eight or

968
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Speaker 2: eight touchdowns. It's one of his high sints like twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had been a big factor. And it's

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Speaker 2: funny because everybody was talking about they weren't getting about

971
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Speaker 2: a CD early where they weren't getting about the cooks early.

972
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Speaker 2: Then he was talking. He never gave up, he never complained.

973
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Speaker 2: He said, trust the process that's going to happen. And

974
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Speaker 2: the thing the balls and cooks, especially in the fourth quarter,

975
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Speaker 2: it's been natural progressions of the passing game.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Deron Bland and I say it

977
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Speaker 5: from until last week, you know, Deron Blaine had kind

978
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Speaker 5: of been quiet, but they've got some good receivers out there.

979
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Speaker 5: Jordan Love talked about number two in the league in

980
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Speaker 5: touchdown passes. They're gonna try and go down the field.

981
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Speaker 5: And this is the kind of game and this is

982
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Speaker 5: where you need. You need a a Deron Bland to

983
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Speaker 5: come through. And Clarence, I know, coming up Thursday on

984
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Speaker 5: LB's you've got another corner, right.

985
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Speaker 6: You got Pup out there. Kevin Smith and that Super

986
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Speaker 6: Bowl run they were on. Pump made plays and I think.

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Speaker 5: You're going to need that. In the passing game. You're

988
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Speaker 5: gonna you number one, You're gonna need to win the

989
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Speaker 5: turnover battle. And I just look at a guy like

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Speaker 5: Deron Bland. It's being able to come up and have

991
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Speaker 5: a kind of game in which you could just say.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, it's funny. It's funny because no disrespect, he said.

993
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Speaker 2: Deran Bland has been so out of his mind that

994
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Speaker 2: when it doesn't get picks, be like, Okay, he's been quiet,

995
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: you know, but what he's doing he's not normal, you know.

996
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, Nis none of this is normal, you know.

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Speaker 7: And he's.

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Speaker 2: No interceptions over he's been No it's just you don't say,

999
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Speaker 2: but that's just how great he's been. If you if

1000
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Speaker 2: you put his year side by side of Gilmour's year,

1001
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Speaker 2: when you want defense play of Year. Duran Blast numbers

1002
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Speaker 2: all better.

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Speaker 10: And and you know, last last couple of days, I

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Speaker 10: was just watching the twenty ten Packers playoff run, just

1005
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Speaker 10: you know, when McCarthy won it all, and Tremon Williams

1006
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Speaker 10: was really good in that playoff run. He had six

1007
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Speaker 10: picks in the regular season, but he was a ballhawk

1008
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Speaker 10: in the in the playoffs. And I think you're right, like,

1009
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Speaker 10: you need someone like that who's able to turn things

1010
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Speaker 10: around like anything.

1011
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Speaker 8: That's what makes this defense good is they have playmakers

1012
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 8: at every level. And when you have that, that's why

1013
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Speaker 8: they lead the league in turnos for takeaways the last

1014
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 8: few years, because it's not just one or two guys

1015
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Speaker 8: doing it. They may you play from behind, and then

1016
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Speaker 8: they got guys who specialized in taking the ball with it.

1017
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Speaker 5: I go back to Pop and just when he played

1018
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Speaker 5: on those Cowboys, there were so many personalities he he

1019
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Speaker 5: just went about his business.

1020
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Speaker 7: He slung Jared right out of bown. You know, like

1021
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 7: you don't have to talk.

1022
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Speaker 8: If you're gonna slang sling Jared rights out of bounds

1023
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Speaker 8: and disrespect him like that, you don't really have to

1024
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Speaker 8: say nothing.

1025
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Speaker 5: And and Blad kind of just reminds me of that,

1026
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Speaker 5: here's a guy that goes by his business and he's

1027
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Speaker 5: playing at a high level, and well talking about it

1028
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Speaker 5: a whole lot, and and and so by the way,

1029
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll be able to get that

1030
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Speaker 5: Thursday night, but that'd be pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be It's gonna be a good, good crowd

1032
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Speaker 2: because several former players are gonna come. Kevin Smith has

1033
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Speaker 2: been voted to the College Football Hall of Fame, so

1034
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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk to him there. But the seventh former

1035
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Speaker 2: teammates pocok s A lot of people want to come.

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Speaker 6: Okay, right, so I'll hit you. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 6: able to make it, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that. The several former teammates is gonna

1039
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Speaker 2: come and support him, so it'll be a good night. Yeah,

1040
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Speaker 2: Kevin Smith was was was solid, you know, solid they

1041
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: come and you talked about. But he was part of

1042
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Speaker 2: that Cadillac Bland when he came in, he was they

1043
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Speaker 2: called him puppet dog because he was a dog. Okay,

1044
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Speaker 2: he you know, and he was a great college All

1045
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: American college cornerback. But they had no fear those guys.

1046
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: That's one thing we talked about that Cowboys team. When

1047
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: I was talking about you know, it doesn't matter how

1048
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Speaker 2: old you are, it's are you ready to win?

1049
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Speaker 12: Now?

1050
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Speaker 2: You know we we've talked about that. It's time. When

1051
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: I was talking to uh on Jock talk with with

1052
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Speaker 2: with with Big Joe's like, are you are you ready

1053
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: to win? Now? Those young Cowboys teams, you know you

1054
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: had the stars, you know, with Michael and Emma and Troy,

1055
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Speaker 2: but you had young dogs that wasn't afraid of anybody,

1056
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Speaker 2: that were ready to win. That's what when came in,

1057
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Speaker 2: he went after Jared Rice. I'm gonna tack it, throw Jared.

1058
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Speaker 2: I'm not scared of you just cause you Jared Rice.

1059
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Speaker 2: But now, before Dion showed up, I'm just talking about

1060
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Speaker 2: these guys. Before Dion showed up, that.

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Speaker 6: Was all young guys, fun stuff. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, clar hill Side, I said, this is not egregious.

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Speaker 6: Calm down, Lock, we're having fun. I thought you for

1064
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Speaker 6: to come about that chair.

1065
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Speaker 7: For a minute, I thought it was like when Heckler

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Speaker 7: got called fans.

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