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Speaker 1: Scalable advice, sugar Spice, It's nice. Welcome to the not

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Speaker 1: is Thursday between our dear friend Mark Loopo joins us, Hey, Loopy,

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Speaker 1: are there?

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Speaker 2: Hep lewis here.

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Speaker 1: We just did twenty minutes of gossip before we hit record.

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Speaker 1: We were gossiping about friends. What terrible Mark.

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Speaker 3: When you think a pre show, the drama we have

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Speaker 3: before the show is like its own show, like.

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Speaker 1: Naughty but nice after dark, right though, And don't worry,

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Speaker 1: We've still got tons of gossip for we didn't miss

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Speaker 1: out on much the promise we will keep you in

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Speaker 1: Loop ok les jump in on time? Is it my friends?

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Speaker 1: And is two times time? Stubbing disturbing photographs of Heather

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Speaker 1: Lockley are looking really distressed and bizarre walking on an

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Speaker 1: totally distressed after leaving an hour long appointment in an

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Speaker 1: The Melrose Place alum has been struggling with alcohol and

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Speaker 1: been photographed scaling the ledge of a building following the visit.

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Speaker 1: He looked very frightening. At one point, she also too,

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Speaker 1: then she shoved it back into her bag. The erratic

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Speaker 1: Sources are telling The Daily Mail that she has reportedly

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Speaker 1: been to rehab over twenty times and the fear she

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Speaker 1: started drinking again. For those of you who don't remember

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Speaker 1: how serious this actually is and was, she ended up

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Speaker 1: Mark heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: What do you think heartbreaking?

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Speaker 3: I came across the story last night and it gave

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Speaker 3: there's a video that accompanies the pictures, and it's equally

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Speaker 3: I was reading about Heather and this has been going

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Speaker 3: And I was looking at Heather's Instagram this morning, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just goes to show you can't believe people's instagrams,

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Speaker 1: all right. People put the best side forward on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: So when you get jealous of people we all do

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Speaker 1: Heather was still with Richie. So I'd fly around America

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Speaker 1: you never really know what's going on in someone's life.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking recently about Madonna. Hollywood is very very

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's got anything to do with this.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that.

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Speaker 3: On her Instagram, she posted a picture of a selfie

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Speaker 2: And you know, these stories they remind her.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure if she comes across these articles that people

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Speaker 2: It's super sad.

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Speaker 1: Now, you don't look like that, None of us do.

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Speaker 1: Barbara Streisan once said that she hates those tributes because

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Speaker 1: you look at yourself growing old. She said, an award

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Speaker 1: Funny Girl, the way we were. All these amazing movies

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Speaker 1: There's not movies of you and me. Marcus as younger people,

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Speaker 1: I don't move like that anymore. My body doesn't do

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a blessing to grow older and to be,

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Speaker 1: I like getting older. It's my birthday next week, oh sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Mark, I'm in a really happy place.

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Speaker 1: What about you? Are you in a good place now

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Speaker 3: My birthday was a few weeks ago, and I took

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we want to know what you think naughty is

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Speaker 1: about these photographs of Heather Luckier. You don't even need

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Speaker 1: she does not look good in these pictures. Are you

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Speaker 1: worried about Heather? Hey? Go vote on our Twitter page

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Speaker 1: Be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, LUPI,

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Speaker 3: I have a shocking story for you, Rob. Neil Leaks

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Speaker 3: has reached out to her nemesis Kim Zolsiak amid her

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Speaker 3: hard divorce. Whoa whoa whoa Okay, so Leaks. She reveals

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Speaker 3: she reached out to her friend turned enemy Kim Zolciak

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Speaker 3: as an active support during the latter's bitter divorce from

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Speaker 3: a strange husband, Kroy Bierman. Yes, now, Rob, It's unclear

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Speaker 3: start connected with King Zolziak, but Leakes did tell Timsey

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Speaker 3: she said, quote, I don't know how she's doing overall.

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Speaker 3: I just reached out to her because she reached out

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Speaker 2: Divorce. It's just not easy, Oh I like this.

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Speaker 1: I'd like it better if she hadn't told TMC right,

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Speaker 1: she needs to hamblicize it would reach out to people?

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Speaker 1: Could you reach out to someone? I mean, I can

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Speaker 3: I would like to believe yes to But although their

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Speaker 1: That remind us of some of these events Mark what

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Speaker 3: So the friends turn to enemies. Feud came to a

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Speaker 1: end with a moment half rub you're gonna rub, You

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Speaker 1: To make good decisions, ask yourself, which choice will pay

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Speaker 2: And I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I really need to drink five six vodkas? Do I

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Speaker 1: I hope that helps, because that is it for today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. They're not even nice

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Speaker 1: with Rob and Mark show a production of Ihart Radio.

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Speaker 1: remember all together. Now, if you're going to be naughty,

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