1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Jettating and he Armstrong and Jetty. Yeah. 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: I have a particular interest in California being from that state, 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: and I we know there's been a lot of fraud. 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: There was thirty two point six billion dollars that's been 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: confirmed in unemployment insurance fraud. There's one point two million 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: fraudulent community college applications. Have you gotten any sense or 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: have you seen any signs there that sort of are 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: similar to what aroused your suspicions in Minnesota? 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And fraud in California might be worse than the 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: frauday Minnesota. 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: What makes you say. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: That, Well, twenty four billion dollars went missing for homelessness. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: They've been trying to build this train for years, yet 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: there's hardly anything to prove for that fire. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: Who that that's the representative Kevin Kylie talking to independent 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: journalist Nick Shirley. Is that who's been digging into the 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: fraud thing in Minnesota and in California. At a hearing 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: in Congress the other day, this is interesting. The next 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: few clips, you're going to hear is Joe Pollock of 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: the California Post, which is the New York Post's new 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: West Coast outpost, talking to Fox and Fiends. But the 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: really significant and interesting part to me is that you 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: have a non progressive journalism outlet now established in thriving 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: as far as I can tell, on the West Coast, 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: and how utterly that's going to change the progressive government's 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: ability to get away with all of. 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: Their crimes and sins in California. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely reach out to this specific guy, Hanson. We got 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: to get a relationship going with the California Post. We'd 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: be perfect for each other and be a marriage made 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: in heaven. 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: But here is Joe Pollock at California Post talking about 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: what Kevin Kyley was asking about. 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 6: Well, the Governor's presided over fraud really as a business 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 6: model in California. This is not the first major fraud 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 6: to come out during Governor Gavin Newsom's administration. During COVID, 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 6: the Unemployment Department in California was defrauded of twenty billion 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 6: dollars in federal funds more than thirty billion dollars overall. 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 6: The money was stolen by international crime syndicates and Julie Sue, 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 6: who directed that department, was promoted. She was the acting 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 6: Labor Secretary in the Biden administration, and now she's in 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: New York. She's the Deputy mayor for Economic Justice. And 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 6: that's the culture under Gavin Newsom. There is no punishment 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 6: for fraud. The audits that come back from the state 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 6: auditor are ignored by the legislature. There's no accountability, and 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 6: you simply get promoted you fail up. 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's not disappointing at all. Here's your essay question. 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: Sue, who presided over that enormous theft of taxpayer dollars 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: gets promoted to Biden's administration and now is helping run 52 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: New York the economic justice or whatever. Even as a lefty, 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: as a progressive, if somebody had presided over that sort 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: of waste and abuse of a government program, why would 55 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: you want them? 56 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know there is an answer to that question. 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Do okay, what's the answer. Then? 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: Well, the answer is the first thing Joe Pollock said, 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: Newsom has been running California with fraud is the business model. 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: It's all spreading out enormous amounts of money. 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 5: I guess if you're a bunch of crooks taking money. 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: Then I get that, But if you're just an actual 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: progressive voter, you shouldn't want this kind of waste. 65 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't it doesn't help your cause. 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that diconomy or the different layers that I've 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: been talking about lately. You've got your activist to your 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: hardcore active who know precisely what they're doing, and then 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: you've got the nice people who hear the moral arguments 70 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: that those activists make and they think they're being. 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 5: Sincere right, they're not. I wish you could get the 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 5: average progressive voter. You know, if you're looking at a 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: dollar a dollar to be as excited about a dollar 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: from a wasted program as you are as excited about 75 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: a dollar from a taxpayer. Because you get all excited 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 5: about more taxes for teachers or homeless or whatever. You 77 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 5: think it is important. You want that dollar, But how 78 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: don't you care about the dollar that's not going toward 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: anything good? 80 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Over here? 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 5: Right with the completely fraudulent bullet trainer whatever got progressive 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 5: should be leading the charge to all of that money 83 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 5: could be spent on. 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: Want to pick your gauze schools, vaccines, whatever you're into. Yeah, yeah, 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: the activists Gavin Newsom Julius suit. They're criminals. They are 86 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: absolutely criminals. They're porters or soft heads who fall for 87 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: the false moral argument. 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 6: Next clip, Michael, this is just the tip of the iceberg, 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 6: and you just have to look at how much spending 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 6: there is in California. We now spend twice what we 91 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 6: spent a decade ago, and yet you don't see public 92 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: services becoming twice as good. You don't see the results 93 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 6: in the quality of the roads around you or the 94 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 6: performance of the schools. So if you've got another one 95 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty hundred and sixty billion dollars going out 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: the door, the question is where is it going. Some 97 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 6: of it is going to government programs that don't work. 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 6: So there's twenty four billion dollars that has been spent 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 6: on homelessness with very little impact, and some of it 100 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 6: is simply being siphoned off. We have state programs that 101 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 6: dole out money to vendors and to non government organizations 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 6: that have a lot of overhead, that don't produce results, 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 6: and that happen to have the right political connections. We've 104 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: essentially institutionalized a fraudulent process, and it doesn't produce value, 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: nor does it produce any kind of return. We've had 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 6: four years in a row now of budget deficits. 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: Did the story not long ago about a bunch of 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: it was San Francisco. But it's, you know, just a 109 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: microcosmic California. You have all these different commissions and offices 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: and all they do is once in a great while 111 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: they crank out a report for each other. But you've 112 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: got one hundred eight hundred, twenty five hundred people on 113 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: the payroll who will always, always, always vote Democrat. 114 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: That's the scam as hold as politics. 115 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: Hey, California Post, let's work together. Armstrong and Getty show. 116 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 5: We're on in the Capitol, We're on in San Francisco, 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: We're on in La We're on in San Diego and 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: many many other cities across the country. We're perfect together, 119 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 5: We're perfect riverside. Come on, we'll let you, We'll let 120 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: everybody know that you exist, and they'll read your stuff. 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 6: Last clip, by the way, it's amazing what the state 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 6: does find money to do. The news this morning is 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: that Gavin Newsom wants to spend ninety million more dollars 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 6: Planned Parenthood on abortions. 125 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: This in a state with a deficit. 126 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 6: That's between three billion dollars if you believe Newsome, or 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: eighteen billion dollars if you believe the non partisan Legislative 128 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: Analyst's office. But still we find things that we can 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 6: spend money on, like gerrymandering and abortion and suing the 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 6: Trump administration. But somehow we can't improve the services. That's 131 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: a red flag that there must be some fraud going 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 6: on in the system at a systemic level. 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: And it's impossible to vote the Democrats out, which is 134 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: the really discouraging part. But we're not here to discourage you, 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: and so we will not dwell upon that. That's a good, 136 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: solid report. 137 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 5: I've got much more discouragement because I want to repeat 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: something I at the other day. This is enough to 139 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: make you. 140 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Give up. 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 5: I mentioned this the other day, so I apologize for 142 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: we heard it before, but I thought it was so good. 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: So this woman, Megan mccartill writes for the Washington Post, 144 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: she's also with the Dispatch, made the argument that these 145 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: things never go anywhere, and she went over a whole 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 5: bunch of examples over the many, many, many decades that 147 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: this has happened. Were huge thefts of taxpayer money and 148 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: they become big stories, but nobody ever pays a price, 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: and voters just feel the same way. I probably feel 150 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 5: like that, what are you gonna do? These scandals don't 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: have the appropriate penalty at the end. They just don't historically, 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: which is very depressing. I believe that's because of the 153 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: Getty mccrdal principle. I'm gonna put myself in front of 154 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 5: Megan h. People cannot picture and feel they took a 155 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: bunch of my money out of my check and threw 156 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: it away. They get that they took money out of 157 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: the check the government did, and they get that the 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: government wastes money or hands it out to crony's, But 159 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: for some reason they don't connect those two you know, 160 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: power lines together and have the right the obvious emotional 161 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 5: reaction to that, which is just totally partly because you 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: have narrowed the tax base intentionally as much as possible 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: so that there are never enough taxpayers that are actually 164 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 5: being stolen from to vote you out of office. 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: That's true. 166 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: If yeah, like with federal money, if you got half 167 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: of people aren't paying federal income tax, they don't, you 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: can't get them worked up about it. 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: At all. 170 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 4: Don't you care about how federal income taxes are being spent? No, No, 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't. I'm getting it, So I'm happy about that. 172 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 173 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 5: It's uh and I think it's always been true, probably 174 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: that you couldn't connect those feelings you're talking about combined 175 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: with the it's it's too big. I can't I can't 176 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,479 Speaker 5: do anything about it. There's no way I could organize. 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 5: I don't have the time to like organize enough people 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 5: in a movement to combat that. So I just all 179 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: I I do is get disappointed and move on with 180 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 5: my day. But I think there were enough ethical people 181 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: over the first two hundred and fifty years that it 182 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 5: didn't get completely out of hand. Patriots, Yeah, I think 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 5: when you lose enough ethics around government, there's nothing stopping 184 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: them from stealing, and we just don't push back. 185 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's going. 186 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: To grow and grow and grow and go and go, 187 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: or we're gonna find there's way. Minnesota and California are 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 5: just you know, two examples that happens all over the place. 189 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 4: There are days I'm able to step outside my disgust 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: and anger as a taxpayer and a patriots. Somebody who 191 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: loves this country, and actually just I feel like I'm 192 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: watching Ocean's eleven or one of those Kaper movies where 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm against armed robbery. Of course i am, or like 194 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: some bank robbery drama. I can name a couple of 195 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: them that I've really enjoyed. And you know, it's a 196 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: super clever scheme, and so you kind of on that level, 197 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: the selling of the progressive tax code as a moral 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: imperative because people who make more should not only pay 199 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: more in taxes, they should pay a higher percentage in 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: taxes because they need to pay their fair share. Selling 201 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: that in order to narrow the tax base as much 202 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: as possible so that you can never be affected. I'm sorry, 203 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: you can never be elected out. You can never be 204 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: booted out in an election because the number of people 205 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: who are offended at your scheme is not enough. That 206 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 4: is a brilliant maneuver. That is George Clooney robbing the casino. Smart. 207 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: It's evil, it's horrible, but it's clever. 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a depressing I think I really stumbled upon 209 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: it with the The only way this worked was that 210 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: there are enough ethical people that wouldn't steal, even though 211 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: they could well. 212 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: And I just think the scammers have ificiencies in the 213 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: modern era with modern media and the internet and the 214 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 4: acceptance well, one of the main factors is the acceptance 215 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: of the welfare state. 216 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: It wasn't very long ago. It's a handful of generations. 217 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: Ago that people would not take charity if they were 218 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: eligible for it because it was too embarrassing. I don't 219 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: take no charity, and we've gone to the other extreme. 220 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: Where's mine says everything? 221 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. I have a bit of 222 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: a breaking news thing. 223 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: I don't know when you will hear this, but law 224 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: enforcement is expected to release a photo of a potential 225 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: suspect in the gu three case. Okay, we'll see what 226 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: that is whenever that happens. That's the only thing that's happened, 227 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: because nothing has happened in the last twenty four hours. 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 5: We're just wondering if maybe this story was completely over. 229 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 5: But they say they're my theory. Yeah, it's Don Lemon publicity. 230 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 5: Ho Don Lemon. He's gone too far this time. You 231 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: know Ashley Banfield who last week went around claiming the 232 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: son in law did it. I have sources saying it 233 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: was the sun law. Okay, do you So why do 234 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: you have sources nobody else has? What an awful thing 235 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 5: to say, awful, awful. We got more of the waist here. 236 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 7: Epstein wrote an email claiming that Bill Gates was worried 237 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 7: that he got an STV from one of the Russian girls, 238 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 7: and he wanted Epstein to hook him up with an 239 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 7: antibiotic they could slip into his wife's coffee. I mean, 240 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 7: of all the slazy things I've ever heard, and of 241 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 7: all the people not to have anti virus protection. 242 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Wow, that's in the Epstein file. 243 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: So Bill Gates thought he got an STD probably gave 244 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: it to his wife and was gonna slip antibotics into 245 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 5: her coffee to try to get her over the STD. 246 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: He didn't want to have to tell her that she 247 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: bright have. 248 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a super interesting aspect of this. I 249 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: was just reading about this or before the show. Epstein 250 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: wrote an email to himself and sent it to himself 251 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: talking about all the conversations he'd had with Bill Gates, 252 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: including about that that's where that story comes from. 253 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Why did he send an email to himself about that? 254 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: Wanted a paper trail, wanted to remind himself, have it handy, 255 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: have the list handy. 256 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, see, there's some speculation I was watching people discuss 257 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: this of he having been through this before, knew that 258 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: a lot of these things might be dug into an investigation, 259 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: and just wanted the whole bunch of stuff out there 260 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 5: like this. 261 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know exactly what. 262 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 5: I don't quite that's two five dimensional chests for me 263 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: to completely figure out, you know, most of his nefarious Uh, 264 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: he was a people. 265 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: Collector, he was an We talked about this earlier, but 266 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: he was an unbelievably skillful networker. I wonder if he 267 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: also had an in case I need it. Uh, the 268 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: carrot isn't working, Let's bring out the stick file on 269 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: verious important people. 270 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: You know, it's this is ancient wisdom, But if you 271 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 5: live your life a certain way, do the right thing, 272 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: it's so much easier. I mean, just so much easier 273 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: in so many different ways. You know you're not lying anybody, 274 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 5: you're not cheating, you're not you know you're not. There's 275 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: another shoe, wasn't up about ready to drop all the time. 276 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: Imagine the stress of I probably gave my wife an STD. 277 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: I need to figure out how to cure her of 278 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 5: that without letting her know I was cheating and gave 279 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: her an SDD. 280 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, God, who wants to do You're one of 281 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: the richest people planet Earth. 282 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: You could have such an enjoyable life doing so many things, 283 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: and I'm sure his life was dominated for days, weeks 284 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: or months with this which he brought on himself. 285 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy. I mean he could do literally anything. 286 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 5: Money can buy on planet Earth, and he got himself 287 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: into that situation. 288 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Wow, sounds very stressful. 289 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, being like an ultra nerd type like Bill Gates was, 290 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: and then having spectacular wealth which gets you access to 291 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: Russian hookers apparently, and you know, all sorts of women 292 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: who'd throw themselves at you. 293 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: He was probably ill prepared to deal with that. 294 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: So Jake Tapper, at least on CNN is still in 295 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: a denim shirt down in Arizona reporting on the Savannah 296 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: Guthries mom situation, like that's where he's broadcasting his show from. 297 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: That's how big a deal they still think it is. 298 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: But there's a report out that the FBI is going 299 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: to release the image of a person who appears to 300 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: be wearing a mask and carrying backpacker tools, hoping somebody 301 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 5: will recognize the person that may have broken into the 302 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 5: house and taken Nancy Guthrie. So that's a tiny bit 303 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 5: of information today that's different than the last several days. Okay, 304 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 5: we got more on the way coming. 305 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Up, Armstrong and Getty. 306 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: The Seattle Seahawks are the Super Bowl champions. They made 307 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 8: short work of the New England Patriots. Quarterback Drake May 308 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 8: became the second Drake in a row to take a 309 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 8: beating at the Super Bowl. The Seahawks defense kept the 310 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 8: temperature alone. Most of the excitement came from the ads. 311 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 8: It was maybe the weirdest year for Super Bowl commercials ever. 312 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 8: There were like two beer commercials. The rest were for Ai, 313 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 8: Jesus and Mike Tyson telling you to eat apples. 314 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, wasn't that many years ago, Manna. 315 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: It was all. 316 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: White beers and pop of various kinds, pepsi and coke. 317 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: Now it's Ai because the world's going crazy. So I 318 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: came across this internet battle between a couple of people. 319 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: I don't know who they are, and it doesn't make 320 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 5: any difference, but it is all over the issue of. 321 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Fat positive isness. 322 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: What do you call it? Fat positivity? Body positivity? Yeah, yeah, 323 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: fat accept its acceptance. That's what it is that James 324 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: Lindsay has written about before. And we went through this thing, 325 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 4: or we're still going through this thing. It's got these examples. 326 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: This one person posted from covers of Cosmopolitan magazine with 327 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: some very very overweight women like you know, really you're really, really, 328 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 5: really big and this is healthy and this is the 329 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 5: new healthy or something like that, and how we got 330 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: on that kick of I think like we overreacted. Maybe 331 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 5: I don't know, because nobody, nobody wants to be that 332 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: size right now. So I mean, you know, you can 333 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 5: make the argument that it's well, I don't know, I 334 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 5: don't even know what to take from this, but nobody 335 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: wants to be that size, so suggesting being not that 336 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: size would be better. I would I would think you 337 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: could say that out loud, but maybe you can't. Maybe 338 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 5: you can't anyway. So this is back and forth between 339 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 5: these people as I was mentioning and it included this, 340 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 5: which I thought was really something, and then they blame 341 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 5: it on big pharma and all these different things going 342 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: back and forth. But this is an article from the 343 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: New York Times. Some doctors wait a while before trying 344 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: to get patients to lose weight because if you bring 345 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: it up, they get very angry. And this is from 346 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 5: the article. Doctor Scott Hagen, a Seattle primary care doctor, 347 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: goes further edging toward an obesity last approach that is 348 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 5: common among doctors. If a patient comes in with obesity 349 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: and obesity related conditions, he starts by treating the related 350 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: conditions with drugs he knows he can work only later 351 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 5: when the patients are comfortable with him, and if the 352 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 5: other conditions are not improved, will he discuss trying the 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: obesity drugs focusing on losing weight. People with obesity, added, 354 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: tend to have a long history of relationships with doctors 355 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: who blame them for their weight, despite their having spent years, 356 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: even decades, trying diets and exercise. Many of them, he says, well, 357 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 5: put off the first thing he tries to treat, which 358 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: is obesity. 359 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Huh. 360 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: So are doctors afraid to say, well, you're really, really overweight? 361 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Is what the problem is here. 362 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 5: There's another little part of this if I can't find it, 363 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 5: but it was basically. 364 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: On the. 365 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: Finally, now that glps have become so popular and so 366 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: many people have lost weight with them, is it. 367 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Okay to say out loud, and I don't know what. 368 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 5: To extend any of this is true that you can 369 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 5: say out loud these things or can't say out loud 370 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: that you know your knees, your ankles, your joints, your back, 371 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: all these different sorts of things were because of your weight, 372 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 5: and that's why you had these problems. But I never 373 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: said talk to you. Know, I would treat you for 374 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 5: your knee pain, but we wouldn't talk about the fact 375 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 5: that your four hundred pounds is why your knees hurt 376 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: all the time. Right, And now that the gops have 377 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: become more popular, you can say out loud that, well, 378 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: you had knee pain because you were a soberweight. 379 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: You think there's a truth to. 380 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 4: That, Yeah, yeah, I do. I've never been a doctor. 381 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 4: Uh played doctor as a younger man. 382 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: But successfully did it. Usually work didn't hurt. 383 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 4: So I can see, especially as they describe people who've 384 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: tried and tried and tried and tried to lose weight. 385 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: If the doctor just at the outset gets after him 386 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 4: you got to lose some weight, You gotta lose some weight, 387 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 4: they don't want to hear it anymore, so they turn 388 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: it off. 389 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: So the doctor can't help them. I don't have any 390 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: idea what doctors do. 391 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 5: But doctors certainly should say if you got like your 392 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 5: knees and your ankles are hurt all the time, and 393 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 5: your four hundred and fifty pounds, say have you tried 394 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: losing weight? Because I think your weight is the main 395 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: reason your knees hurt. And then they can say, yeah, 396 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 5: I go to the gym five days a week and 397 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 5: eat nothing but lettuce, although that's probably not the I mean, 398 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: acting like that's the most common case is probably not accurate. 399 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: Right, So. 400 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: What are doctors supposed to do? Treat it with drugs 401 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: or maybe that's what people want. 402 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know. 403 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor. I'm not even sure I understand 404 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 4: what you're asking. 405 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 5: I didn't know that that was happening in doctor's offices, 406 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: what they wrote in the New York Times. I didn't 407 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: know that was a common thing that they're not willing 408 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 5: to bring up obesity. Obesity last is usually the approach, 409 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 5: is what the New York Times que I'm surprised. 410 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: That it's gone that far. Yeah, it seems obvious, but 411 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I try to keep in 412 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: mind what I'm like in the mainstream, of what I'm 413 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: an outlier of and what I'm like just a flat 414 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: weirdo about. And I've always been a realist about weight. 415 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 4: I know exactly how overweight I am and the effects 416 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 4: it has, and what weight I'd like to be, and 417 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: what I've tried to do and what I've not bothered 418 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: trying to do to get back to the weight. And 419 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: I've lost a ton of weight, regained stuff. So it's 420 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: impossible to offend me at the doctor's office saying, you know, 421 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: you probably had to drop twenty pounds. 422 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, I know. So it's tough for 423 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: me to picture. 424 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: But I could see somebody, yeah, reacting the way they 425 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: described in the New York Times. 426 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, all I know is what I'm reading about in 427 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: these articles. But if you do have some sas where 428 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: people have bad knees and bad ankles and the doctor 429 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: knows it's because of the weight and they don't bring 430 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: up the weight, that's not good doctoring. 431 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't think at least, No, Yeah, you got to let. 432 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: People know that it's the amount of weight your knees 433 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: carry around is where your knees hurt. Now we can 434 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: address whether or not you can lose a weight and 435 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: how you're trying whatever. 436 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: But I think what the doctors were saying in that 437 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: article is if I go with that first, I've lost them. 438 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: They're gone. 439 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a teenager. You just if you go 440 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: so hardcore, you lose the connection. It's over. That's the 441 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: way I interpreted that article. 442 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: But which as I've found a very annoying reality. 443 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: I think you're having trouble understanding it because you're a 444 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: gay nazi and I have proof from the Wall Street 445 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: Journal's Auto review column. 446 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gay. 447 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: State you're not only are you gay, you're a gay Nazi. 448 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: And I have proof. 449 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned that. 450 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, and it's from a Pullitt Surprise winning journalist. 451 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: And you know how the Nobel Prize, you know, after 452 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: the or what behind the Ears Youth passed away and 453 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 4: we learned what the Nobel Prize is and who's on 454 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 4: the committee and what they reward and stuff. You realize, how, okay, 455 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: it's a progressive activist group that the progressive press pretends 456 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 4: is just the arbiters of all that is good and holy, Right, 457 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: pullet surprise committee. Wait till I tell you about them, 458 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: and you're gonna do that next segment, right, and your 459 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: whole g N status. 460 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: One more thing on the weight thing that I think 461 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: is relevant, the fact that we soft pedaled downplayed that 462 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: during COVID. The relationship between COVID deaths and being overweight 463 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: was crazy. So they got like no attention because of 464 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 5: being offensive or whatever. 465 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: You know what, that is great evidence that perhaps the 466 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: my realists view, if you don't want to lose them, 467 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: so you got a soft pedal in them. No, it's 468 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: it's way way crazier than that. You're right, that's good point. 469 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: All right, people were freaking dying, right, Well, I don't 470 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: want to say they're heavy. They could die still, you know, 471 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: fat accept it's that's just insane. 472 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something. Okay, we got what Joe said. 473 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: Coming up next, the Commerce Secretary of Howard Lutnik, as 474 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 5: we speak, is uh in Congress being pressed by Democrats 475 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: about his relationship with Epstein. I'm kind of like to 476 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: hear that as he is on tape once saying I'm 477 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 5: never spending another moment with that guy, and then he spent. 478 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: It would seem quite a few moments with the guy 479 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 5: after that, So. 480 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: I just I can't get past the flip flop. And 481 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: when they had power, they didn't give a crap. Oh yeah, 482 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: exact powers. So no, they want to know everything and 483 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: back and forth, no doubt flopy. So I came across 484 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: this from Andrew Styles and the Free Beacon and was 485 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: amused by it, and I went to the original source 486 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: and it turns out he's right. 487 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: The Wall Street. 488 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: Journal car Review Vehicle Review Things, written by Dan Neil, 489 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: who's a Pulitzer Prise winning journalist. It's one of the 490 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 4: strangest reviews I've ever read in my life. And this 491 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: is the Jack is a gay Nazi thing. 492 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, you sure say that a lot. 493 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like that's gonna feel like it's gonna 494 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 5: stick if you keep saying it. 495 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Katie, do you. 496 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: Understand why saying Jack is a gay Nazi is kind 497 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: of enjoyable? 498 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry that I would. I love saying Jack 499 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: is a gay Nazi. There it is. It sounds even 500 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: better coming out of your mouth. 501 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: The gay thing is not if I were gay, i'd 502 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 5: be I would be openly gay. I don't have a 503 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 5: problem with it, but I'm not gay, and it's not 504 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: going to help my dating prospects. 505 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: The Nazi part is really difficult to deal with. 506 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: Were you or were you not approached by a white 507 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: supremacist skinhead in a public library? 508 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: I was to recruit you to the Nazis? I was? 509 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: I rest my case anyway, So, as Andrew Styles writes, 510 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: journalists are the worst. Even those who don't cover politics 511 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: are often incapable of writing normal sentences without flaunting their 512 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: sneering disdain for normal Americans. For instance, you might not 513 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: believe us if we told you. The Wall Street Journal's Peel, 514 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: a surprise winning autocritic, recently compared Americans who enjoy large 515 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: trucks with gas powered engines to Herman Gurring, the Nazi 516 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: commander who founded the Gestapo and whose Marshall flamboyance fueled 517 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: persistent rumors about his sexuality. That's exactly what what's his face? 518 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: Did? The guy? Oh there it is, Dan Neil did. 519 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: The opening paragraph of his review of Ford's gas powered 520 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: F two fifty super Duty must be seen to be believed, 521 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong, do you or do you not? 522 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Drive a Ford F two to fifty Super Duty trunck? 523 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: I do okay, Nazi anyway, So wow, you're connecting the dots. 524 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: But and I'll get into the actual review. But, as 525 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: Andrew Styles writes, the opening paragraphs have to be seen 526 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: to believe be believed. Even then, it's absurd enough to 527 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: make you wonder if an editor messed up by uploading 528 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 4: the wrong text. Just a totally normal way to start 529 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: a truck review. I'm going to read you the opening 530 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: to the review. Russell Crowe's portrayal of Nazi leader Hermann 531 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: Gurring in the film Nuremberg is brilliant but incomplete. Little 532 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: is made of Gurring's outrageous personal style, the power blue 533 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 4: Reich Marshall's uniform, the fur lined capes, the diamond and 534 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: crusted badges and batons, the face makeup. Gurrings sartorial choices 535 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: raised suspicions among both the Allies and the Nazi high 536 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 4: command that he was a homo sex. 537 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: Keeping in mind on Rue, this. 538 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: Is the review of an F two fifty Super duty Diesel, 539 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: a truck review. 540 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: Correct anyway, dot dot dot he was a homosexual. 541 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: That's quite an opening for a review of an automobile. 542 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: He's just getting started, so dot dot dot he was 543 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: a homosexual, he wasn't. Apparently, a later generation of sociologists 544 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: might have diagnosed Guring's Marshall flamboyance as a form of 545 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: homeovestism that is exaggerated and often impractical gender normative dress 546 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: or behavior intended to signal elite social status. 547 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 5: Now, did you look thick on a hyperlink? Or is 548 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: this still part of the f two to fifty truck review? 549 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Still part of the review? Okay? 550 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: Although the term is clinically obsolete, examples of male peacocking 551 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: are as close as the nearest bejeweled Patek Philippe talk expensive. 552 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm watch I see where they're going now, or a. 553 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: Sterling silver Rodeo belt buckle or jumped up old plated pickup. Indeed, 554 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: there are many examples of behavior intended to signal elite 555 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: social status blah blah blah, and then picking up again 556 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: with Andrew styles, Uh job, it's right about cars. It's 557 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: certainly the most relevant, not the most relevant option to 558 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: sneer it people who drive pickup trucks. Comparing people you 559 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: don't like the Nazis is another classic case. Most people 560 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: were regarded as not just praining, but such is the 561 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: cost of asserting once moral righteousness. 562 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm assuming when you drive your Prius or 563 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 5: Tesla or something like that, it's not peacockying and signaling something. 564 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 5: Yours is just a solid decision. Okay, fine, whatever. 565 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you expect a truck review, writes Andrew. Yeah, 566 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: that's hilarious. 567 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: So he's reviewing a truck and he has to have many, 568 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 5: many paragraphs to get around to insulting people who would 569 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: drive a truck. 570 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: That's his truck review. 571 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: In Neil's view, the typical F two fifty owners an 572 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: insecure roofing contractor some other emperor g redneck who wants 573 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 4: to make his rivals jelly and tow his pleasure boat 574 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: on weekends above, and then he points out for context 575 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: the F series is the best selling vehicle lineup in 576 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: the United States for. 577 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: Nearly half a century. 578 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: The sight of me hopping down from the driver's seat 579 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: has real Greg Bovino energy, he sneers, referencing for no 580 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: reason whatsoever, the border patrol linrew led the immigration crack 581 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: down Minnesota. 582 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 583 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: And then he claims to detect a hint of lavender 584 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: in the cabin wink wink gay Wow. 585 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: What final thoughts this armstrong. 586 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, here's your host for final thoughts. 587 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: Joe Getty was that gurring there? 588 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew, 589 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: starting with Michael Angelow in the control room. 590 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: Michael hit it. We didn't have time for this earlier, 591 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: but I want to play it. Here we go. 592 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 9: Twenty five oh three to go. Someone has run on 593 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 9: the field, some guy with a brawl, and now he's 594 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 9: not being chased. He's running down the middle of the forty, 595 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 9: arms in the air in a victory salute. He's pulling 596 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 9: down his pants. Put up your pants, my man, pull 597 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 9: up those pants. He's being chased. 598 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: At a thirty. 599 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 9: He breaks a tackle from a security guy at the 600 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 9: twenty tell in the middle of the ten, the five. 601 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: He sides at the one. 602 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 9: And they converge on him at the goal line. Pull 603 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 9: up your pants, take off the brawn. 604 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Be a man. We need more of that with our streakers. Oh. 605 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: I love that. 606 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: Katie Greener esteemed to us woman as a final thought. 607 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Katie. 608 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 5: Hard to follow that, but all I've got is that 609 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: chicken Banana song has been stuck in my head since 610 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 5: the seven o'clock. 611 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: There you go, I'm not happy. 612 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: If I hate the modern oryld Jack final thought, Yeah, 613 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be following this social media case today. Google 614 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: is going to respond to the accusations of them. 615 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: Making an addictive product for kids. This is I think 616 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: you're gonna be fascinating the fall. 617 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: One more quote from this Dan Neil character in his 618 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: Gay Nazi truck review. 619 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: They mentioned that in his. 620 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 4: Recent review of the new super cross Track Sport Hybrid, 621 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 4: he praised it as having a for anybody who's ever 622 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 4: longed for a powertrain that reflects their values. 623 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did you get a sign? Doing 624 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: car reviews well, not to mention super duty truck reviews. 625 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 5: Wow, Armstrong and Geddy wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 626 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: So many people, thanks so little time. Good Armstrong Geddy 627 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: dot com. 628 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 4: A lot of great clicks there, the hot the hot lengths, 629 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 4: Oh so fabulous Katie's corner. You can drop his noemail 630 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 4: bag at Armstrong and Geddy dot com. Pick up his 631 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: T shirt that reflects your values. Come about ruin the 632 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 4: entire country Gavin Newsom twenty twenty eight or hot Dogs 633 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 4: are Dogs. 634 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow. God bless America. 635 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: I'm strong and get take the way better at words, words, 636 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: oh my words, words. It is time for us to 637 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: do what we have been. 638 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: Doing in that time. Is every day equal matter fact. 639 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: But it's also a bob. It's a Bobcat is the thing. 640 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: Thank you all, and it's always everybody else. I love 641 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: you all, high know, Thanks y'all. They're not armstrong and getty.