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Speaker 1: My mother in law told my husband I cheated, so

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Speaker 1: I slapped her.

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Speaker 2: Wow bank, Yeah, so what is with the chap? This

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Speaker 2: isn't the exact reverse order of you doing? What are

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Speaker 2: you doing? This is also I'll answer the question.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you foster a good relationship with your mother

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Speaker 1: in law and also foster good relationship with us by

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Speaker 1: joining our live stream every weekday at three pm on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Get on over there, adopt me.

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Speaker 1: But this is from user individual savings thirty two, and

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Speaker 1: they say I read it. I made this throwaway because

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Speaker 1: I need some help if knowing if I should apologize

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Speaker 1: to my husband because yesterday I slapped my mother in

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Speaker 1: law right in front of him. For context, my husband

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Speaker 1: is white and I am mixed. My mom is Puerto

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Speaker 1: Rican and my dad is white. My mom has very

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Speaker 1: dark skinned and my dad is pretty fair skinned. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty white passing, which for those who don't know, means

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Speaker 1: you can't tell that I am Latina unless I tell you.

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Speaker 1: I get to tell you. A running familial joke is

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Speaker 1: that melanin skips a generation because my maternal grandpa is

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Speaker 1: also very fair, but my maternal great grandma is very brown.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that this will come into fruition. This is

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Speaker 1: going to come back around a little old Uh, We'll

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Speaker 1: be coming around this mountain when she comes. When she comes,

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Speaker 1: we'll be coming around mountain when she comes. With that

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Speaker 1: out of the way, I'll get into my situation. I've

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Speaker 1: been with my husband for seven years, married five We

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Speaker 1: have a three year old girl, little girl who is

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Speaker 1: had a head full of dark brown curls, dark brown eyes,

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Speaker 2: I see you, I see you, put, I.

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Speaker 1: See you in the chat put, I see you in

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Speaker 1: the chow guys, put, I see you.

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Speaker 2: We know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? John, guess what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she's gonna accuse her of cheenie. Yeah, having another

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Speaker 3: man's baby.

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Speaker 1: Why is my son baby's so dark when you're so

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Speaker 2: Genetics?

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Speaker 1: Genetics? Who if you saw abo of the melanin skips

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Speaker 1: a generation. She looks like me. When I get tanned,

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Speaker 1: you can definitely tell she's part Latino. Despite knowing all this,

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Speaker 1: my mother in law has gotten into her tiny little

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Speaker 1: pea size stegosaur's brain that my daughter isn't my husband's.

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Speaker 1: She's been telling anyone who will listen that I must

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Speaker 1: have had an affair because there's no way her son,

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Speaker 1: I like snapping with each one, No way her son's

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Speaker 1: child could be that color. Yeah, how nice. My mother

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Speaker 1: in law has always been standoff as with me. She

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Speaker 1: I didn't know she was from racist time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Racistville, USA? Population?

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Speaker 1: Your mom, mom, Your mom's so racist that she's rac

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Speaker 1: that she's racist. Are there your mom's so racist jokes?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know you got any of those?

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Speaker 1: You got any look up? Some of your mom's so racist?

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Speaker 1: Your mom's so racist that your mom's so racist that

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Speaker 2: Good job, congratulations, guys. I did it. Let's go home.

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Speaker 1: I did it. That's it anyway, from another time, that

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Speaker 1: time being racist time. I wanted to write off. I'm

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Speaker 2: Oh my fu. Anyway, this is my co host, ladies gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Which is bad, by the way, taking a stand, taking

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Speaker 1: Someone's got to do it. Someone's got someone's got to

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Speaker 2: Racis. Oh my god, you would get.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thunk? And all the signs were pointing

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Speaker 1: But it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when someone wraps up a guitar

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Speaker 1: It's a racist all right, anyway, saying she knew girls

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Speaker 2: My word never would have sunk. Karen On read it.

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Speaker 1: Karen On read it, uh, saying she probably did the

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Speaker 1: same to my dad. I don't know what came over

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Speaker 1: me next. I've never hit someone before, but I ended

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Speaker 1: That's what got my husband to start talking, or rather yelling,

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Speaker 3: Every single time he was like, oh, she's from another time,

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Speaker 1: He enabled her exactly. He's been enabling her time. I

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Speaker 1: and I'm questioning everything, like did I allow my mother

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Speaker 1: my daughter was not at the house. We sent her

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Speaker 1: posted an update and there is a big fat, juicy update.

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Speaker 1: A big fat juicy update. But question should OPE be apologizing?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I think that the way Opie approaching this is good

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Speaker 3: And all these things like this is literally all the

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Speaker 1: Story, it's on him to be a mediator.

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Speaker 2: It is on him to be a mediator.

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Speaker 3: And if your mom is being racist to your your partner,

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Speaker 2: That has to put us off. Yeah, that is it.

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Speaker 3: On like her hitting her and I think like she's like,

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Speaker 3: I realized that she condoned violence.

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Speaker 2: She said, she's clear she's racist.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's my I don't think. I don't think here's

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Speaker 3: I think that while it's like, okay, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like like you that is what happens.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're saying racist crap, expect to be

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Speaker 2: I don't thinks she shoud have slapped her.

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Speaker 2: I understand why she did it, why she did it.

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Speaker 3: She was anger, boiling over and like the like if

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Speaker 3: I'm the husband, like I don't know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Just a moment of I think mother in law anger, ahole,

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Speaker 1: husband a whole, op a whole, but justified, justified a.

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Speaker 2: Whole for the slap. Yeah, thinking, Okay, do you disagree?

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Speaker 4: Imagine imagine you're watching a movie and there's a like

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Speaker 2: Don't you kind of want him to don't you kind

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm if I saw the mother in law get slapped,

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Speaker 1: I just don't like. I feel like we're in a

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Speaker 3: But you just can't be like I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: Or like totally spies zero one says an ideal world,

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Speaker 1: I think I agree with that it's a well earned slap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where this episode ends. And also seventy eight

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Speaker 2: Yea. I hate violence, guys, I hate violence, but I

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Speaker 3: Time for okop relash, give me all your inheritance because

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Speaker 1: I said no, because I know exactly what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Twenty OnlyFans subscriptions. I mean, it's hashtag worth it it's

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Speaker 1: Oh, hey, you gotta pay up the dough, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars, Light work.

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Speaker 1: Light it on fire, baby. My now deceased ex wife

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Speaker 1: Prior to her passing, she made it clear to them

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Speaker 2: What about funko pops?

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Speaker 1: Though? Yeah? What about a Bugatti? Ooh that's nice? Like,

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Speaker 1: Two of my kids, twenty four female and twenty eight male,

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Speaker 1: A lot of bugattis is true? Only two actually, probably

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Speaker 1: This is crystal. None of it. None was going towards

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Speaker 1: I'd say that maybe some of those escorts improved something.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go into the long bitter feud

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Speaker 1: Like why would the two golden children spill the beans?

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure this therapist actually exists, don't worry. So

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Speaker 2: Need exactly.

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Speaker 1: However, my daughter did not take it well. Oh, dear Christ,

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Speaker 1: far worse than I expected. Here, I am willing to

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Speaker 1: that they don't get the money.

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Speaker 2: Outright.

440
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Speaker 1: I explained that their siblings had demonstrated they were responsible

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Speaker 1: with the money, hence why I would leave it to

442
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: them outright. Nope, not good enough for her. She doubled

443
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Speaker 1: down that spending all of her mother's three hundred thousand

444
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Speaker 1: dollars on travel was justified.

445
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Speaker 2: There we go, baby, the double down.

446
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Speaker 1: She had the gall to call me extremely upsetting names

447
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Speaker 1: and accuse me of being emotionally abusive. Yeah, you won't

448
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Speaker 1: give me three hundred thousand dollars.

449
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Why would you emotionally abuse me like that?

450
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Speaker 3: You're giving me so many intrusive thoughts on that you

451
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Speaker 3: would not know the number of a trusive thoughts.

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Speaker 1: You're gaslighting me, Dad, You're gaslighting me.

453
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Speaker 2: You're gatekeeping your money from me.

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Speaker 1: Dare you? So? I told my daughter that as I'm

455
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Speaker 1: retiring soon, perhaps I should experience the joys of travel. Also,

456
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Speaker 1: perhaps I should spend her inheritance that I've worked for

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Speaker 1: my entire life on travel myself. She stormed out and

458
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: hasn't contacted me since. Oh, really proud of how my

459
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: son's taking the news. Extremely disappointed in my daughter, anuinely

460
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Speaker 1: considering spending her part of the inheritance on travel myself

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Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, do it? Do it? Bro? Why not? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. Come on, she seems like a brat.

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Speaker 3: She seems What would you do if you had a

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Speaker 3: by you had of five children that like literally just

466
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Speaker 3: squandered away all of their initial inheritance.

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Speaker 1: I would I think he did the right thing. I would,

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Speaker 1: I would do the trust, but I would I would

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Speaker 1: just still do the trust even if the daughter's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just still I mean she's like twenty one

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Speaker 1: or helld is she twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Early early twenties. I think I think it was like

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, she's twenty four, twenty twenty four, twenty four,

476
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Speaker 1: I mean she's twenty four, a little old, but like

477
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: they're probably like a little spoiled. I think I think

478
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Speaker 1: go forward with the plan. Who cares if she's you know,

479
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: being a whiny baby about it? Am I the a

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Speaker 1: hole for yelling at my brother for cheating when he

481
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Speaker 1: was finally embracing his sexuality. Okay, this is okay. Ope,

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Speaker 1: I'm Samuel.

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Speaker 2: Daughter and I'm John Fry and we.

484
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Speaker 4: Tell the phone of your stories there and none of

485
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: oh yeah, oh yeah, and John, I have something that

486
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: is just like this compounding of cheating, of family drama,

487
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Speaker 4: of Christianity, of the Lord.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He got the trifecta, the holy trinity of okayop.

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Speaker 3: Stories, perfect reddit cake just stacked up. Let's get into it,

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Speaker 3: do it?

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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for yelling at my brother

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Speaker 1: for cheating when he was finally embracing his sexuality.

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Speaker 2: Let's see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: My brother male thirty and me thirty eight male grew

496
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: up in a very religious household. My father was all

497
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Speaker 1: about good Christian family values, and yet ironically he cheated

498
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: on my mom all the time, and he expected us

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Speaker 1: to accept it. I hated his guts, but my brother

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00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: always tried to please him to have his approval. When

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Speaker 1: he was a teen, we shared a desktop computer and

502
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: he sometimes forgot to delete his browser history. This is

503
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: the brother classic. I noticed he went to many gay

504
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: support sites, so I thought he might be into guys.

505
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: I never asked because A it was his choice to

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Speaker 1: tell me when he was ready, and B didn't really care,

507
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Speaker 1: which I guess is I think that's like a good

508
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: good that's probably a good, healthy response. H He was

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Speaker 1: my brother and I love him. I understood why he

510
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: would want to keep it quiet, though. If he came

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00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: out when we were living with our father, I knew

512
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Speaker 1: crop would hit the fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Years passed and he didn't come out, even after losing

515
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: contact with our dad. I thought that maybe he was

516
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: exploring a sexuality back then, or maybe it was by

517
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: or whatever. Because he got a girlfriend and then married

518
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: her five years ago. Oh okay, yeah, so like you know,

519
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: seems Yeah, this girl, let's call her Julie, is an angel.

520
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: She got along with everyone, and she became fast friends

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Speaker 1: with my wife. Oh yeah, who sees her as like

522
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: a sister of sorts. I owe her a lot because

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Speaker 1: she was instrumental in making my wife, except that she

524
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: needed help after going through some terrible postpartum depression.

525
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: That's great. She's basically helping her with the mental health.

526
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: That's all.

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00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: The families feel united. Yes, fast forward to this week,

528
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: Julie calls us sobbing and tells us that my brother

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00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: has been cheating on her and that his lover is

530
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: a male friend of his from work. Uh oh no,

531
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: oh's brother. This has been going on since three years

532
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: ago or so. I went ballistic and I called him.

533
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: I told him he was doing the same thing to

534
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Speaker 1: Julie as our father did to our mom.

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00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: Oh.

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00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: My brother then tells me that he was struggling with

537
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: accepting that he was gay all this time and that

538
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: I should be more understanding. He then goes on to

539
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: accuse me that I'm just mad because he's gay, and

540
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: then I'm discriminating against him.

541
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: Ooh, do not play that card at this time.

542
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro cheating is cheating, and that's what Ope says.

543
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: I told him. Cheating is cheating, and Julie doesn't deserve this.

544
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: And like, Julie is the sweetheart, aimed all of a woman.

545
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the innocent, you know she.

546
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure if he was upfront with her that she

547
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: would not have Yeah, like trying to have a.

548
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Relationship with it.

549
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Bruh kind of man. That's tough, dude, that's so tough. Yeah,

550
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: we haven't talked in days, and I'm starting to feel guilty.

551
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have been more tactful. I don't know.

552
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I just feel that cheating doesn't have a free pass

553
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: at all. People have read it TikTok podcast and YouTube.

554
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Is op the a hole?

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00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say and have some empathy

556
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: for is Opie's brother, like probably struggling with it, considering

557
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: like you know, grew up Christian, probably like there.

558
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Is, dude, that's a tough thing to come. Some self

559
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: hate probably in there. You know, also like you probably

560
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: are marrying someone to cover up that party.

561
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: You're living a lie. I mean, no one wants to

562
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: live like everyone wants to be their their true, authentic self.

563
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: So I could see the pain that that would cause

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00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Ope's brother. But to turn around and basically say, like

565
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: basically use like the gay card to say, like, you're

566
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: discriminating against me when you were cheating on someone.

567
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially someone who is is integrated into the family,

568
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that you care about too, Like yeah, true, it's

569
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: it's hard, but I do understand. Like, like I do,

570
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I think op could have been a little bit more

571
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: tactful with how he approached it, because I especially like

572
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: all this is coming out, he's not really He's not

573
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: out like his brother's not out right. Yeah, so this

574
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: is essentially outing him and having his relationship fall apart

575
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, and like he's having to embrace

576
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: like his sexuality too. It's like this is a very

577
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: confusing and whirlwind of emotion. It's a good point. So

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00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: I think op could have been a bit more tactful.

579
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think cheating is ever right. Yeah, you know,

580
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really excusable.

581
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: But especially I just I honestly, the cheating is is

582
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: really bad, and I hate the li like, like I

583
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: feel like he's like trying to play the gig, trying

584
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: to get out of it.

585
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I also really hate. Yeah, so what you

586
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna do? But what do you what do you think y'all? Like,

587
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I you know, it is a tough situation, is a

588
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: tough one, and I think it's more up in the

589
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: air than more of our like than our recent stories.

590
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: But like I'd love to hear some people from the

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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: LGBTQUH community, like what what do you think too?

592
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: Wait?

593
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Are you telling me that two quite straight assists males

594
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: did not have the definitive opinion?

595
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: What?

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00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: It's a comedy podcast.

597
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: We've had the definitive opinion for four hundred years.

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00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: For four hundred years, what are we changing it now?

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Speaker 2: Undred years can't be wrong.

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Speaker 3: But on the real let's let's get some of the

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Speaker 3: LGBT plus community in on this discussion, and we want

602
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts.

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00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: Let us know, give us your thoughts also, maybe like,

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Speaker 1: give us our thoughts in the subrennit oh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, drop it in the subreddit, guys. We want to

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00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: get some discussions going on there.

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Speaker 1: Some people are joining it, but we haven't really been active,

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Speaker 1: that is true, So let's let's have the comment over there.

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