1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: They're here. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about a couple of my favorite cuts 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: on their single on their project. My guest on Money 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Making Conversations Master Class for Grammy nominated jazz duo Marcus 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: and Jean Baylor for their new album of The Baylor 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Project Generations. The Baylor Project a husband and wife an 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: astounding duo built on love, faith, family, culture, and community. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: As the children are pastors. Marcus and Jean's musical roots 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: were planted deeply within the church, and it was there 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: that the road was paid for the influence of jazz, gospel, 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: blues and soul to. 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Make its mark. 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Please welcome to the Money Making Conversations Master Class, Marcus 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: and Jean Baylor. 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: How you doing? 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: Hello? 17 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 4: Hello? 18 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, I hope, I hope I did did you justice 19 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: by that intro? 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Because the music is uh, I'm telling you man, y'all, y'all, 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: y'all are doing something. You know jazz is it's it's jazz, 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: but this is a mix of something else. Am I 23 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: missing something when I say that? 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 5: Marcus and Gene, Nope, You're not miss anything. 25 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: I mean. 26 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: And first of all, thank you for the amazing introduction. 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: The other thing is that it's music that's born out 28 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: of our community. So I think a jazz, you know, 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: the blues is there, you know, gospel is there, you know, 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: R and B. All those things are the roots of 31 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: our music. That makes up who we are. 32 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 5: As the people. 33 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Right before I get into your background. And like I said, 34 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: I may be late to the party, but I'm at 35 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: the party now with the Baylor Project, Okay, you want to. 36 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: Let you know that. 37 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: And there's two songs that really they're on my there 38 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: are two songs that really stand out for me that 39 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: I listen to and uh and that that really I thought, 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: really talk is what I'm talking about. 41 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: How diverse the sound is. 42 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: It's called Only Believe featuring the Jameson Ross and then 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: black Boy. You know black Boy got their trumpet sliding 44 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: through that, the piano, the strings, that drums, you know, 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: they all it's then the beat, it's just a slow 46 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: melodic tune that builds up to the vocals are just 47 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: that are just slid in at different moments. Those two 48 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: songs Only Believe in black Boy. Can we talk about 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: the evolution and the process of creating those really really 50 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: different songs on the same project, which is the Baylor Project. 51 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 6: Yes, oh, Wow, you picked two very diverse songs. 52 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: I love it those two. 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 6: You know, when we approach an album in general, we 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 6: really approach it as a body of work, and we 55 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: really take our time to kind of basically live and 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 6: allow the songs and ideas to come to us and 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 6: then we're able to develop them. So I only believe. 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 6: I think that actually kind of came early on and 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: I didn't think it. 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 7: Was gonna work on the album, and Marcus was like. 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Yes, you shame on you. That is my favorite. 62 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: That is the I can't say that that's I love 63 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: the song. I love I'm an NPR. I can't endorse it. 64 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: I apologize. I slipped over the curve, I slipped over 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: the lake. Only believe is a song that stood out 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: on the album. That's all the music stands out, but 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: that like anybody who listens to music, you always have 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: a favorite song that just that just grabs you and 69 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: it holds onto your emotional it takes you on the journey. 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: Because what I've taken from listening to the music, you guys, 71 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: when I say you, guys, Marcus and Jean Baylor, great storytellers. 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 5: Wow, thank you, thank you. 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 6: That's really kind of what we aim to do is 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 6: tell stories through our songs. But there we are aimed 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 6: to tell stories that are true and authentic, not only. 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 7: To us but to other people. And a good friend 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 7: of ours, Andre. 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: Guests, he described this so he wrote a line of 79 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 6: notes and he described the album as a soul full 80 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: sonic story quilt, I believe. And you know just how 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 6: it was all weave together with the different songs, and 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 6: how it was like you had specific ideas and concepts 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 6: and themes, but then it's still had. It was like 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 6: about the universality of the human condition. So even though 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 6: it's very particular, a lot of the mas very particular 86 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: to the black community, the concepts and themes are those 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: that really anybody can relate to. 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: And also, I mean this has truly been a journey 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: for us. I mean before we were married, I was. 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: A drummer, well well while while we were married as well, 91 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: but I was the drummer. 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: In the Yellow Jacket and Jane come out of an 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: R and B duo across Jean Nay. It's and so 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: there's a whole history of our you know, where we 95 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: have come from in terms of what we've been doing 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: in the music business. But at the same time been 97 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: blessed to just be mentored by some of the you know, 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: the legends and just people that inspire us, you know daily, 99 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: and we standed on our shoulders. 100 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: One of the reasons I created I've been blessed to 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: be to have a show like Money Made Competition Masterclass. 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: I get people to talk about their dreams with their 103 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: overcoming their fears, you know, walking through the unknown dark. 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Faith plays a major role in that because you already 105 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: said both of you, both of you came from groups, 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: and groups can allow you to you know, standing back 107 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: and lean on somebody for support and or sometimes they 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: don't give you the support that you want, but it's 109 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: still somebody you can talk to to step out as 110 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: individuals and do what you do. Talk about that journey, well. 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: It's I mean, I know Gene can definitely add to this, 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: but I guess for us, I mean, we started our 113 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: own label, be a Light, Be a Light, and it 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: started at the beginning just for us, stepping out as 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: the bill of project and starting from their first gig 116 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: of just playing for. 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 5: A set of fifty people. 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and so to see how this journey has moved 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: forward and now we're blessed to be Grammy nominated this 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: year for our album Generations, and actually this is our 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: fourth Grammy nomination within what past four years, twenty. 122 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 5: Eight And so you could add more to it. 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, you can talk mar this not we not 124 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: just not a five minute interview. 125 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Now you can talk now. 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: You know he's just gonna throw it off like I'm 127 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: gonna cut him off to you know, you know, they 128 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: only got bout three more minutes. 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: You know, I think right, this show is built to 130 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: tell your story. 131 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: This this show is built to talk about your journey 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: because I want people to understand a lot of people 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: want to be you. There are a lot of people who 134 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: have dreams cut off because somewhere along the line somebody said, 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: go get a job that's not you know, you're too old, 136 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: or you or you're the wrong size, the wrong color. 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: You know, you can't sing. Nobody wants you. 138 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: Because I know because those things were said to me. 139 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I remember as my career is a stand up comedian. 140 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I remember early on this guy I can tell you 141 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: his name, Paul Menzel. He was the owner of this 142 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: comedy club in Houston, and I came off the stage 143 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: and if to a standing ovation, he said. He said, 144 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: you know, you could be a little bit funnier if 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: people could understand you. 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I go, huh, he said, you. 147 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: Know, you're you're you're not really clear when you talk. 148 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: I go, but they but they're laughing, he said, he said, 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: just a note, just a note, you know, you know, 150 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: but this is a business. You're not gonna make it in, 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, because nobody won't ever understand you. 152 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: So I know that happened to me. 153 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: And that's why I can just say this to people 154 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: that when people questioning, well, you know my success and well, 155 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: you know, how did you make it? I had to 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: overcome people telling me to quit, that this wasn't for you. 157 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: And so I know along the way, you know, I 158 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: said earlier, your pastor kids, and so sometimes when your 159 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: pastor kids, people say, well your favored you know, you 160 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: didn't work hard and things are those things and and 161 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: so that's why I wanted to make sure, Marcus, you 162 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: tell us your story because I'm gonna get to Gene. 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you probably on the other side of 164 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: the break, depending on how you talk. So continue, Mark. 165 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: So I mean, so basically the journey, I mean, so 166 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: the thing about it is is that I think it's 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: you know, one thing that I tell people is that 168 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: when you have a dream and a go it starts 169 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: with a dream, but you have to be consistent and persistent. 170 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: And so in saying that, it's almost like the thing 171 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: about it is is that you tweak your you tweak 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: whatever your business or whatever you're doing along the way, 173 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: but stay consistent in it. Like because a lot of 174 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: times is that I meet people, we meet people in 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: the industry or just in business in general that they're 176 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: one thing, they're doing this today tomorrow Like well, man, I'm. 177 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: Selling these showance you know. So it's like, nothing wrong 178 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 5: with that. 179 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: But my thing is that your dream really borrows down 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: to your purpose. And if you understand your purpose, that's 181 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: what keeps you going. Because one thing I will. 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: Tell you this is that I learned that. 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: Motivation and inspiration on the journey comes and goes, but 184 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: what keeps me going daily is the purpose. 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: I want to understand what my purpose is. 186 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: Then it's like okay, whether I'm tired, whether you know, 187 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: it's like okay. 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: Man, now you got to keep going. You're almost there. 189 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean the better project, I mean it started with 190 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: you know, now we're blessed to tour and you know, 191 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: have a booking agent and and but everything started with 192 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: us doing everything ourselves. We booked ourselves. We we did 193 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: all the I mean you, I mean you, you know 194 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: how it is, you name it absolutely brought drums to gigs, we. 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: You know, the whole nine. 196 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: So with that being said, I think is really understanding 197 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: the journey because it doesn't happen overnight. 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There are days 229 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: where you actually just cry. You cry not so much 230 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: out of fear, it's just frustration. It's fear us because 231 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: you know, fear drives that frustration. And I should say 232 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: that because that fear the unknown have. I made the 233 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: right decision, but what keeps you going is faith, but 234 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: also a plan. 235 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: You gotta have that plan, everybody. 236 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: You cannot just walk out that door and not have 237 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: an objective because talent will only get you so far. 238 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: And the bottom line, you got us surround yourself with 239 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: people who believe in the same journey you are trying 240 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: to make. 241 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Let me repeat that one more time. 242 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: You got us surround yourself with people who want to 243 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: make the same journey with you. And I will tell 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: you back in ninety two, I didn't get that. I 245 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: didn't get what people saw in me, Marcus and gen 246 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: And so that is why this interview that we're doing 247 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: now is so important, because of the fact that I 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: want people to hear your story when we talk all 249 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: about the journey, you know, we all I know, I'll 250 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: tell people I grew up in the hood and I 251 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: always used to see things on TV. And I always 252 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: felt of what I saw on TV, I could actually 253 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: be a part of I guess that that's what helped 254 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: me out. Always I was a dreamer that really believed that, 255 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: you know, if I worked hard and stay focused, the 256 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: dream of me being something other than where I was 257 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: living could actually happen. So when I when I say that, 258 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: Marcus and Gen, what was the driving force for you? 259 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: See your parents, what' see the culture that you grew 260 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: up in. What was the driving force that inspired you 261 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: to this point? And guess what, the journey isn't over, 262 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: it's just another starting point. Because both of you are 263 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: goal oriented. I tell people that all the time, a 264 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: goal and what drives that? What is the drive for 265 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: the journey? 266 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 6: I would say starting out for me, it was just 267 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 6: the love of music anywhere that I could sing, whether 268 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 6: it was the choir in church or acchoir in school, league, club, concert, quire, magicals, 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 6: talent shows, wherever I could sing, because I just loved 270 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 6: doing it so much. It wasn't didn't represent work at 271 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 6: that point. I just did it. And you know that's 272 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: still part of the drive. But of course it's developed 273 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 6: over years and as Marcus mentioned, purpose that's like hugely 274 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: important to me and the both of us. 275 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 7: And also. 276 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: And business of course, business finance and that kind of 277 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 6: thing that's a drive as well. But you know it 278 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: kind of grows and develops and changes a bit as 279 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 6: you as you get older, and but it's it's definitely 280 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: the drive and love for music, but. 281 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: The purpose and. 282 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 7: The passion for it. And you mentioned something, what was it? 283 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 6: Oh, excuse me, just kind of seeing yourself in different spaces, 284 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 6: like growing up. I grew up in a little small 285 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: town in South Jersey, so I didn't I wasn't connected 286 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 6: to the music industry whatsoever. So I didn't even have 287 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: a concept that you know, if I saw a music video, 288 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 6: you know, on MTV back then, soul Trained, I loved 289 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 6: the sing but I never thought, oh yeah, I could 290 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: go and do that because I was not anywhere in 291 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: any proximity too close to it, as I didn't even know, 292 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: you know, their. 293 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: Arts high schools were for real. 294 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: I was watching fame like man, I share with nothing 295 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 6: to go in. It just kind of I found it 296 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: and it found me. 297 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: Marcus has a little bit of a different. 298 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 6: Story because he definitely had to have a lot of 299 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: drive to break through some barriers. 300 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: Well, Well, the thing about, like like you said before, 301 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: both Jean and I are both preacher's kids, pastors kids. 302 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 5: So Jean grew up her. 303 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: Dad was a pastor of a Baptist church. I grew 304 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: up where my dad was a pastor of a Pentecostal 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: Apostolic church. So what that means is back then there 306 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: was no other music allowed. 307 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: Well, your mom wouldn't playing either, Jane, but there. 308 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Was no other music allowed in our house other than 309 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: gospel music. 310 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: And so with that being said, but this is the 311 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: other side. 312 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: My mom my dad only had like maybe a seventh 313 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: grade or sixth or seventh or eighth grade education, and 314 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: he came from Mississippi, and you know, for a better 315 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: life for the family. And so with that being said, 316 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: I mean later on in life he gave his life 317 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: to the Lord and he ended up pastoring. But they 318 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: started my dad's church before I was born. I'm the 319 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: youngest of nine children. His church literally started in my parents' 320 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: house where they had a baptismal pool in the basement. 321 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: So that's the beginning of me hearing those stories was 322 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: the beginning of me understanding what drive is. 323 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: And then while I was a kid. 324 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: My mom had been forty two, so I hung out 325 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: with my dad a lot, so he would pick. 326 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: Up all the members for church. He would be setting 327 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: up tents. 328 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean, my father was only about five foot three 329 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: five foot four by the same height, and he would say, well, 330 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: I get out the way I do it. And so 331 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: you're talking about when you watch him, when you're talking 332 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: about drives and somebody just working and just really serving 333 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: the people and just working hard. 334 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: I think that's what the beginning of. 335 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: Me understanding what it takes to have the drive and 336 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: the passion and the work ethic. 337 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: But Marcat, you got to tell us how did you 338 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: start making that music shift? And when did you introduce 339 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: that music shift to the family? 340 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 5: Wow, that's a great now that I'm gonna bring it in. 341 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: So I started playing, so I became I started playing 342 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: drums at the age of two, and I became the 343 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: church drummer at the age of five. 344 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: So when I got to you all in, you all 345 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: in back there, two years old, back there? 346 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was you know, yeah, it was so 347 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: once I got to high school, I think I had 348 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 3: a buddy take me to my first uh introduced me 349 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: to the Yellow Jackets when I was in middle school. 350 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: And actually he's a pastor now and a buddy by 351 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: the name of Chris Kier introduced me to the music. 352 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Did introduce you to the music and then ran back 353 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: to the church. That's what he did. 354 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: Basically. 355 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: No, but yeah, I mean it was like and then 356 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: later on I had a buddy. 357 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: This changed my life. He took me to my first 358 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: jazz club and it was open. I snuck out and 359 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: from there. 360 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: I don't know why my parents while my mom had 361 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: this because my dad passed away when I was nine, 362 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: and so I don't know why my mom had this. 363 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: But I had a. 364 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: Bed, I had a door in my bedroom, so I 365 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: would literally sneak out to go hear jazz music. And 366 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: by high school I had older mentors that. 367 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: Said, hey man, you need to start doing some gigs, and. 368 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: So they will call me while I was in high 369 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: school to go play some gigs. And that's where that's 370 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: when the bug bit me. And the thing about it is, 371 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: I'm trying to really figure this out, is that a 372 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: lot of times is that when you have resistance in 373 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: terms of I remember my family even at that time 374 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: they said, hey man, drummers come a dime a dozen. 375 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: But in my mind I'm thinking like, well, I'm going 376 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: to be that dime and a dozen. So I think 377 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: parents not just handing everything to you sometimes, you know, 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: it's kind of it's kind of weird. It's almost like 379 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: it makes you want it more and it makes you 380 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: go after Like, I had a conversation with a family 381 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: member today and he talked about you know, we talked about. 382 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: How having a Plan B. I'm gonna be honest with you. 383 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: I mean I told him this because I always flattered 384 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: them because I love basketball. I said, actually, my plan. 385 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: A was to make it to the NBA. 386 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: But at the age of probably nine, tent on about eleven, 387 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: my brother told me I wasn't going to make it 388 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: to the NBA. 389 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: So ill dream killer? 390 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah he dream killer, dream killer or a truth teller. 391 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: He make it. 392 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: He made it to the NBA five foot three. 393 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Now come on see him? 394 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: And so well it was about heroes, okay, But I'm 395 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: just saying, I mean, what is the percentage of being 396 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: a musician? 397 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: Okay, a low liar? I would say this. 398 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: So so to bring it all in, I just I 399 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: feel like this, like I'm thinking about people that have 400 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: a Plan B. 401 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying I believe you should have a 402 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 5: plan B and C. 403 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: But for me, in my mind, most people that I 404 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: know that has a Plan A that means they're resistance 405 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: and their drive a lot of times it's not going 406 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: to quit when they know because I don't believe then 407 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: I mean I told my family. 408 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 6: They were like, hey, you go to school for music 409 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 6: in New York. 410 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: I went to music school in New York, and so 411 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: they were like, you know, I told my mom, y, 412 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm going there, ya, I can teach, you. 413 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 5: Know, that's the plan be to them. 414 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: When I in my mind, I was like, man, I'm 415 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: going to New York to play with the greats and 416 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: I on a tour and do music for a living. 417 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: That's what my mind was saying to me the whole time. 418 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 419 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 4: with Rashaan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations 420 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. 421 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: I remember when I my degree is in mathematics. I 422 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: worked for IBM, and I left IBM to be a 423 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: stand up comedian and so I so in my mind, 424 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: I always I can always go back. 425 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: That was my plan. 426 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: B was sitting in the back of my mind, this 427 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: jokey joke things, I'm not going to be the next 428 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: Adye Murphy, the next Richard Pryor. Then I can always 429 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: go back, you know I was. I didn't leave with 430 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: no discard. You know, they were crying and I walked 431 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: out the door. But it was when I decided no, 432 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: going back was not an option. That commitment you have 433 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: to one time in your life. If you say you're 434 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: going to go to college, if you say you're going 435 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: to get married, you say you're gonna be in a relationship, 436 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: you say you're gonna have children, that's about commitment. And 437 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: when you make that commitment, that's why always trying to 438 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: shape these stories that really then they can line up 439 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: in anything that you do, whether it's losing weight or 440 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: getting in shape, or getting married or dating, or having children, 441 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: or job or starting a business. All this these variables 442 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: really align themselves to the same conversation. 443 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: It's commitment. 444 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: And if you're going to have a committed effort, it 445 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: has to be tied to goals. And when you tie 446 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: things to goals, then your dreams can become a reality. 447 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: And that's what people make the mistake all the time. 448 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: They have all these dreams, no commitment. They have all 449 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: these dreams, no goals, and guess what happens. Frustration sets 450 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: in the NY sales become the kings of your conversation, 451 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: and next thing you know, you're sitting back depressed, not 452 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: and next thing you know, you're forty years old saying 453 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 2: I wish I should have done this. 454 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Fifty years old. I could have done this sixty years old. 455 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: You mad? You mad? 456 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just all your stories about what you could 457 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: have done. When I tell people, do not use age 458 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: as and excuse. If you have a dream, you can 459 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: still do that for it and you still got talent 460 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: associated with it that do it. 461 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: Yes, I'll tell you this. I gotta say this. 462 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: So you just mentioned something. 463 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 5: You just talked about age. So here you go. 464 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: In our twenties, I was in the Yellow Jackets. In 465 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: Jean's twenty she was in Johnny. So when we started 466 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: this independent grind started all the way back in two thousand. 467 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: And five, right Jean left. 468 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: I left the group john there, I think in two 469 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: thousand or something like that. So I'm saying all that 470 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: to say this. Two thousand and five, all the way 471 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: up to twenty seventeen was nothing was building and starting 472 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: our independent journey. Now we went to labels, we did 473 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: all that, nothing happened. We put out some independent spent money, 474 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: we lost money, made bad decisions, and you know, just 475 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: in terms of that, it was like the education process, 476 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: like getting a master's degree, so yes. So so basically 477 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: I was saying that, you know, we made decisions and 478 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: the fast forward from two thousand and five now comes 479 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: two thousand around fourteen, and I took a long shower 480 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: and it hit me and said, hey, we should start 481 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: this band called the Biler Project where you know, at 482 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: the time when I left the Yellowjackets, I wasn't doing 483 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: as much touring. I was doing more production and producing 484 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: in the studio. 485 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: Gene and I and I just. 486 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Said, I want to get back to playing Jeene and 487 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: you know you can you know where it features me 488 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: on drums and you're singing. You know, we have a 489 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: full band and everything. And so I said, man, that 490 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: would really be cool. And she said that is the 491 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: dumbest idea. I said, Okay, don't worry about it. We're 492 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: gonna write some music and it don't make. 493 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: You said, it don't make no sense. 494 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 7: Okay. 495 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: So this is twenty fourteen, fifteen. So we ended up 496 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: doing our first gig at three shows at this place 497 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: called Smoke Jazz Club. The first set was okay, it's 498 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: the thought of okay, crowd long no, no, I'm I'm 499 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: finn to bring it in. 500 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna bring it all in. So we did our 501 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: first show. It was okay, the first two sets was 502 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 5: rocking and it was packed, and it was packed. 503 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: And out of that started a residency for like eight 504 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: or nine months. So that was the birthing of the 505 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: Bella project. We go in the studio and record and 506 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: we release this album. Now, the industry tells you, well, 507 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 3: the industry, the way it's been shaped for years is 508 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: that it's a young person's industry. Where your years or 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: in the twenties, your best years, or in your thirties. 510 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: Check this album. We're over our forties. Our first album 511 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: drops and comes out right. This album gets nominated for 512 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: two Grammys Best Jazz Vocal Album, and a song laugh 513 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 3: and Move On is for Best Traditional R and B Performance. 514 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: Why am I singings, Marcus, You're saying is because the 515 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: thing about it is is that it's never too late 516 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: to go after your goals and your dreams right now. 517 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna put it out there because a lot 518 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: of times is that the industry says that, hey man, 519 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: you're you know, age is what's in your mind, it's 520 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: what's So there's a new book that's being written, and 521 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: the book is this I'm Marcus Baylor. 522 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: I'm forty six years old. My wife's Jean. Can I 523 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 5: tell them your age, baby, I'm thanking forty six years 524 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 5: how I'm on forty six to twenty five? Okay, y'all, 525 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: I forget my age. 526 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: I'll let you know that when you say y'all, because 527 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: you stop counting, so that'd be okay. 528 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: I stopped counting more so, oh, you start to get 529 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: that forty five years old. Yeah, and my wife Jean 530 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 5: is fifty one. So check it out. We're in twenty 531 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 5: twenty two. Last year we had a song that was 532 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: Grammy nominated car Sit On Down for Best Traditional R 533 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: and B Performance. This year, our album Generations is nominated for. 534 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: Best Jazz Vocal Album, and we just was blessed to 535 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: win a NAACP Award this year for Best Jazz Album Vocal. Now, 536 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: it ain't about the accolade of this and that, but 537 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: what I'm trying to tell you is this is that 538 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: age and you starting your goals and your dreams. And 539 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: we literally started over when we started to build a project. 540 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: So I'm saying that. 541 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: All to say this is that no matter what your 542 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: age is, if you have the if you have the breath, 543 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna call it rest to dream. Then once 544 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: you dream, you got to go after that thing and 545 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: put a plan together, like you said, and pursue that 546 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: and pursue those goals. And this is the thing. Everything 547 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: that we've done so far, I mean, we don't say 548 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: this too many times, but I would say this is 549 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: that everything were small goals that we put into place. 550 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: We didn't wake up one day and just say, hey man, 551 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: we want to play in front of in the theater. 552 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 5: Oh we want to be Grammy nominated. 553 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: No, let's be consistent and persistent when we play in 554 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: front of fifty people when we then only sold ten tickets. 555 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: Let's play as if the place is packed in full. 556 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: And so with that being said, that's where they're persistent 557 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: and consistent as he comes in there and you understanding 558 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: your purpose. 559 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: Cool. 560 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: So hopefully this, you know, will help somebody. 561 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, it helped me because that's what I talk about 562 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: all the time, and that's what I'm known for telling 563 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 2: people ages. Don't let age be an excuse to your 564 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: dreams being achieved. And Gene, you know when you talk 565 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: about that only ten people in the audience you out 566 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: in front now or that sold that audience. You out 567 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: in front and you get to see those faces, You 568 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: get to see what the music and what you're doing 569 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: and people reacting to it. How does that affect how 570 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: you perform, you know, at being an entertainer or does 571 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: it take you to another level emotionally? 572 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: Does that? 573 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Does that? 574 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: Does that give you a little more juice to give 575 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: one hundred one ten thousand percent talk about that experience 576 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: as a performer. 577 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 6: So yes and no, Like, when you know you draw 578 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 6: from the audience, for sure, I don't know if audiences 579 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 6: really know that, but you know when you can feel 580 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 6: the energy from the audience that, you know, it inspires 581 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: us as artists on stage. Like, yeah, you know now 582 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 6: one thing you know, especially in jazz, you're gonna be 583 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: in front of different audiences, right and so you know, 584 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 6: sometimes I'll talk to my when I teach, and sometimes 585 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 6: I'm telling my students, I'm like, listen, you gotta be 586 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 6: able to really you know, a song is a song, 587 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: but when you come before people. 588 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 7: It's really a selfless act. 589 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 6: When you go before people to perform and sing and 590 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 6: do what you do. If you're doing it, you know 591 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: in the right frame of mind. But it's important to 592 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 6: kind of just just kind of sense the room. 593 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: And so it'll be a. 594 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 6: Song where I may sing, I don't always sing it 595 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 6: to sing that way every night. For instance, there's a 596 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 6: song called Praise Songs Hollywoojah song, and there's a whole 597 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 6: story behind that. But you know, when we did it 598 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and it was like an all black audience. 599 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: You know how we do we talk back to come 600 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 6: on now, hey, all right now? I mean, you know, 601 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: we had our good buddy che Mitchell on in the 602 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 6: organ and he acts a fool when he gets on 603 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 6: the organ, and and it was just a whole thing. 604 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: And then you know, when we were in I believe 605 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 6: it was broad a Slava Europe is completely different vibe. 606 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: They do not talk to you like, hey, sing, It's 607 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 6: just not part of their culture, you know, and they 608 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: could be enjoying it, and you're kind of wondering, well, 609 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 6: I think, but they're listening so understanding that they're they're 610 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 6: really listening. 611 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: But the spirit of the room was completely different, and 612 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 7: the lady that closure in here. 613 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 6: Sung it completely differently. 614 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 7: We performed it there. 615 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: It was just it was just a different vibe. All together, 616 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 6: and it's just responding to that space in the moment, 617 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 6: and and they definitely enjoyed it. You know, one of 618 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 6: the lads just and embrace me after afterwards. And she 619 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 6: didn't speak English and I didn't and speak her language. 620 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: So anyway, Yeah, it does affect in a way, I 621 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 6: think what you do because you're you almost can't help it. 622 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: You know, if they're vibing with your you're gonna be 623 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 5: vibed right back. 624 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's not people. If you're 625 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: in Japan, they're going to kind of express themselves differently, 626 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 6: and depending on the age of the audience and that. 627 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: Sort of thing. 628 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, you have to 629 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 6: kind of have an idea of what it is that 630 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 6: you are trying to. 631 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 7: Give to the audience when you go out there. 632 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: Sometimes you may have very discouraging situations and it's important 633 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 6: to kind of learn how to handle those. 634 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: Right. 635 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: Well, I did it. 636 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 6: Really badly one time. 637 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta figure it out. 638 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: You know. 639 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: Being a being a performer is amazing because you're right. 640 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes I as being a performer on stage, some people 641 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: give you standing ovations. Some people will stand and walk 642 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: out that's me talking. 643 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: That's a standard creator and it gives you different reactions. 644 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: I've some people I've had quiet audience and say, man, 645 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: you was the funniest person ever saw. 646 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I said, wishould have. 647 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Told you faith, okay, because I didn't see any laughter 648 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: come out of your faith. 649 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay. Real it willly helped me out there, but I 650 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: just want to take the time. This was a journey. 651 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: That's what I do on Money Making Conversation Masterclass, and 652 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: allow me to speak to the Grammy nominated jazz duo 653 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: Marcus and Jean Baylor for their new album The Baylor Project. 654 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: Generations appreciated a husband, a wife, and a stounding duo 655 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: built on love, family, faith, culture and community. I wish 656 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: you luck and on that fantastic night, and again, thank 657 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: you for coming on Money Making Conversation master Oh, thank. 658 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 7: You so much. 659 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having us, and we hope 660 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: to come down to your area soon and what we do, 661 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna let you know, be blessed and stay safe.