1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: They're here. I've they We're gonna talk about a couple 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: of my favorite that cuts on their single on their project. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: My guests on Money Making Conversations. Masterclass of Grammy nominated 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: jazz dual Marcus and Gene Baylor for the new album 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: The Bailor Project Generations. The Baila Project a husband and wife, 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: an astounding duo built on love, faith, family, culture, and community. 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: As the children of pastors Marcus and Jeans, musical roots 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: were planted deeply within the church and it was there 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: that the role was paid for the influence of jazz, gospel, 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: blues and soul to make his mark. Please work on 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations, Masterclass, Marcus and Jane Baylor. How 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: are you doing? Hello? Hello? Well, I hope I I 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: hope I did did you justice? Buya that intro? Because 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: the music is uh, I'm telling you man, y'all, y'all, 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: y'all are doing something. You know jazz, It's it's jazz. 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: This is a mix of something else And am I 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: missing something when I say that? Marcus and Gene, No, 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: you're not this and anything. I mean, first of all, 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: thank you for the amazing introduction. Um. The other thing 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: is that it's music that's born out of our community. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: So jazz, you know, the blues is there, you know, 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: gospel is there, you know, R and B. All those 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: things are the roots of our music that makes up 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: who we are and the people before I get into 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: your background. And like I said, I may be late 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: to the party, but I'm at the party. And that 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: with the Baylor Project, okay, you want to let you know, 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and there's two songs that really their own mind that 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: there are two songs that really stand out for me 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: that I listened to and uh and that that really 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: I thought, really talk what I'm talking about, how diverse 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: the sound is. It's called Only Believe featuring the Jamison 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Ross and then black Boy. You know black Boy got 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the trumpet sliding through that, the piano, strings, that drum, 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, they all it is. And then the beat 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: it's just a slow melodic tune that builds up to 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the vocals are just are just slid in at different moments. 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Those two songs Only Believe in black Boy. Can we 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: talk about the evolution and the process of creating those 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: really really different songs on the same project, which is 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the the Baila Project. Yes, oh wow, you picked um 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: two very diverse songs. I love it, um those two. 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: You know, when we approach an album in general, we 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: really approach it as a body of work, and we 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: really take our time to kind of basically live and 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: allow the songs and ideas to come to us and 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: then we're able to develop them. UM. So only believe. 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I think that actually kind of came early on and 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna work on the album, 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: And Marcus was like, yes, shame on you, shame on you. 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: That is my favorite. That is the I can't say 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: that that that's I love a song I love. I'm 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: an NPR, I can't endorse it. I apologize. I slipped 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: over the curve, I slipped over the light. But only 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: believe is uh is a song that stood out on 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: the album. That's all the music stands out. But they're 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: like anybody who listens to music, you always have a 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: favorite song that just that just grabs you and his 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: holes onto you emotionally takes you on the journey. Because 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: what I've taken from listening to the music, you guys, 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: When I say you, guys, Marcus and Gene Taylor great storytellers. Wow, 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. That's really kind of what we 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: aim to do is tell stories through our songs. But 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: there we aim to tell stories that are true and authentic, 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: not only to us but to other people. And Um, 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: a good friend of ours, Andre guests he um he 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: described this. So he wrote a line of notes and 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: he described the album as a soulful sonic story quilt 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I believe. And you know just how it was all 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: we've together with the different songs, and how it was like, Um, 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: you had specific ideas and concepts and themes, but then 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: it's still had. Um, it was like about the universality 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: of the human conditions. So even though it's very particular, 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the chills very particular to the black community. Um, 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: the concepts and things are those that really anybody can 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: relate to yea that God. And also I mean this 77 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: has truly been a journey for us. I mean before 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: we were married, Um, I was a drummer. Well well 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: while while we were married as well, but I was 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: the drummer in the yellow Jacket and Gene come out 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: of an R and B duo across jan Nick. It's 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: and so there's a whole history of our you know 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: where we have come from in terms of what we've 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: been doing in the music business, but at the same 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: time been blessed to just be mentored by some of 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: the you know, the legends and just people that inspire us, 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: you know daily, And we started on our shoulders, you know. 88 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I created and blessed to be 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: to have a show like Money Made, Conversation, Masterclass. I 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: get people to talk about their dreams, with their overcoming 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: their fears, you know, walking through unknown dog. Faith plays 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: a major role in that because you already said both 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: of you, both of you came from groups, and groups 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: can allow you to you know, standing back and lean 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: on somebody for support and or sometimes they don't give 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you the support that you want, but it's still somebody 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: you can talk to to step out as individuals and 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: do what you do. Talk about that journey, well, it's 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Gene can definitely add to this, 100 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: but I guess for us, I mean, we started our 101 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: own label, be Alike be Alike, and it started at 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: the beginning just for our stepping out as the bill 103 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: of project and starting from the first gig of just 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: playing for a set of fifty people and so to 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: see how this journey has moved forward and now we 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: we're blessed to be greatly nominated this year for our 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: album Generations, and actually this is our fourth Grammy nomination 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: within what past four years. And so you could add 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: more to it, you know, Yeah, you can talk Marc 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: just now we gotta go just not a five minute interview. 111 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Now you can talk now. Know he just gonna throw 112 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: it off, like I'm gonna cut him off. You know, 113 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: you know they only got about three more minutes. You know, 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: this show is built to tell your story. This just 115 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: shows built to talk about your journey because I want 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: people to understand a lot of people want to be you. 117 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who have dreams cut 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: off because somewhere alongline, somebody said, go get a job 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: that's not you know, you're too old, or your or 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're the wrong size, the wrong color. 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, you can't sing, nobody wants you to because 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: I know because those things were said to me. I 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: remember as my career as a stand up comedian, I 124 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: remember early on this guy contu his name Paul Menzo. 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: He was the owner of this comedy club in Houston, 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: and I came off the stage and if to a 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: standing ovation, he said, um, he said, you know, you 128 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: could be a little bit funnier if people could understand you. 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: I go, huh, he said, you know, you're you're you're 130 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: not really clear when you talk. I go, but they 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: but they're laughing, he said, he said, just a note, 132 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: just a note, you know, you know, but you it's 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a business. You're not gonna make it in you know, 134 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: because nobody won't ever understand you. So I know that 135 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: happened to me. And that's why I can just say 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: this to people that when people questioning, well, you know 137 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: my success and well, you know, how did you make it? 138 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: I had to overcome people telling me to quit, that 139 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: this wasn't for you. And so I know along the way, 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, I said earlier your pastor kids, and so 141 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: sometimes when your pastor kids, people start work your favorite 142 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't work hard and things of those things. 143 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: And uh. And so that's why I wanted to make 144 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: sure markets you tell us your story, because I'm gonna 145 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: get to Gene. I'm gonna get you probably on the 146 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: other side of the break, depending on how hard you talk. 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: So continue Mark. So I mean, so basically the journey. 148 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean, So the thing about it is is that 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, one thing that I tell 150 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: people is that when you have a dream and a go, 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: it starts with a dream, but you have to be 152 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: consistent and persistent. And so in saying that, it's it's 153 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: almost like the thing about it is is that you 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: tweak your you tweak whatever your business or whatever you're 155 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: doing alone the way, but stay consistent at it. Like 156 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of times is that I meet people, 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: we meet people in the in the industry or just 158 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: in business in general that they're one thing they're doing 159 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: this today tomorrow Like well, man, I'm selling insurance, you know. 160 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: So it's like nothing wrong with that. But my thing 161 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: is that your dream really borrows down to your purpose, 162 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and if you understand your purpose, that's what keeps you going. 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Because one thing I will tell you this is that 164 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I learned that motivation and inspiration on the journey comes 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: and go, but what keeps me going daily is the purpose. 166 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I want. I understand what my purpose is. Then it's 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: like okay, whether I'm tired, whether um, you know, it's 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: like okay, man, now you gotta keep going. You almost there. 169 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean the Bella project. 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They're they're hungry nights. He's he'll 203 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: tell you that they're hungry days. Their days when you 204 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: sit on the other side of the bed and you 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: and you you your feet on the floor, but your 206 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: body don't want to get up. Their days where you 207 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: you actually just cry. You cry not so much out 208 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: of fear, just frustration. It's fear or because you know, 209 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: fear drives that frustration and I should say that because 210 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that fear the unknown, haven't made the right decision. But 211 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: what what what keeps you going is faith, but also 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: a plan. You gotta have that plan, everybody. You cannot 213 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: just walk out that door and not have an objective 214 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: because talent would only get you so far. In the 215 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: bottom line, you got us around yourself with people who 216 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: believe in the same journey you're trying to make. Let 217 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: me repeat that one more time. You got us around 218 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: yourself with people who want to make the same journey 219 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: with you. And I would tell you back at nightty two, 220 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't get that. I didn't get what people saw 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: in me, Marcus and Gene. And so that is why 222 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: this this interviewed that we're doing now is so important 223 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: because of the fact that I want people to hear 224 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 1: your story when we when we talk all about the journey, 225 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, we all I know, I'll tell people I 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: grew up in the hood and I always see things 227 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: on TV. And I always felt that what I saw 228 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: TV I could actually be a part of I guess 229 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: that was that That's what helped me out. Always I 230 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: was a dreamer that really believed that, you know, if 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I worked hard and I stayed focused, the dream of 232 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: me being something other than where I was living could 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: actually happen. So when I when I say that, Marcus 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: and Gene, what was your driving force for you? See 235 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: your parents was seeing the culture that you grew up in. 236 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: What was your driving force that inspired you to this point? 237 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: And guess what, the journey isn't over, it's just another 238 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: starting point. Because both of you are goal oriented. I 239 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: tell people that all the time, a goal and what 240 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: drives that? What is the drive for the journey? I 241 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: would say starting out for me, it was just the 242 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: love of music. UM, anywhere that I could sing, whether 243 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: it was the choiring church or acquiring school league club, 244 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: cons a quire magical talent shows, wherever I could sing, 245 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: because I just love doing it so much. It wasn't 246 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't represent work at that point, UM, I just did it. 247 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: And UM, you know that's still part of the drive. 248 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: But of course it's developed over years. UM. And as 249 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Marcus mentioned, purpose that's like hugely important to me, UM 250 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: and both of us and also UM in business of 251 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: course business finances that kind of thing, that's the drive 252 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: as well. UM. But you know it kind of grows 253 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: and develops and changes a bit old as you as 254 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: you get older. And um, but it's it's definitely the 255 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: drive and love for music, but um, the purpose and 256 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: the passion for it and um and you mentioned something, 257 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Um what was it? Oh, excuse me? UM, just kind 258 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: of seeing yourself in different spaces, like growing up. I 259 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: grew up in a little small town in South Jersey, 260 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: so I didn't I wasn't connected to the music industry whatsoever. 261 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: So I didn't even have a concept that you know, 262 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: if I saw a music video you know, on MTV 263 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: back then, soul training it, I love the thing, but 264 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: I never thought, oh yeah, I could go and do 265 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: that because I was not anywhere in any proximity too 266 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: close to it, as I didn't even know, you know, 267 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: their arts high schools were for real, I was watching 268 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Fame like man, that ship was not the game. It 269 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: just kind of I found it and it found me. 270 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Marcus has a little bit of a different story because 271 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: he definitely had to have a lot of drive to 272 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: break through some barriers. Well well offer well the thing 273 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: about like like you said before, both the Jane and 274 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: are both uh preachers kids, pastors kids. So Jean grew 275 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: up her dad was a pastor of a Baptist church. 276 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: I grew up where my dad was a pastor of 277 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: a Pentecostal Apostolic church. So what that means is back 278 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: then there was no other music allowed. Well, your mom 279 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: wasn't play in either, Jeane, but there was no other 280 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: music allowed in our house other than gospel music. And 281 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: so with that being said, but this is the other side. 282 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: My mom my dad only had like maybe a seventh 283 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: grade or six or seventh or eighth grade education, and 284 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: he came from Mississippi, and you know, for better life 285 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: for the family. And so with that being said, I 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: mean later on in life he gave his life to 287 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: the Lord and and and and he ended up pastoring. 288 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: But they started my dad's church before I was born. 289 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of nine children. His church literally started 290 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: in my parents house where they had a baptismal pool 291 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: in the basement. So that's the beginning of me hearing 292 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: those stories, was at the beginning of me understanding what 293 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: drive is. And then while I was a kid, my 294 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: mom had been forty two, So I hung out with 295 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: my dad a lot. So he would pick up all 296 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: the members for church. Um he would be setting up 297 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: tents I mean, my father was only about five ft 298 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: three five four, about the same height, and he would 299 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: say to get out the way I do it. And 300 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: so you're talking about when you watch him, you're talking 301 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: about drives and somebody just working and just really serving 302 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: the people and just working hard. I think that's what 303 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of me understanding what it takes to have 304 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: the drives and the passion and the work at it. 305 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: But market, you gotta tell us, how did you start 306 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: making that music shift? And when did you introduce that 307 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: music shift to the family? Who wow, that's a great 308 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: now that I'm gonna bringing in. So I started playing, 309 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: so I became I started playing drums at the age 310 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: of two, and I became the church drummer at the 311 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: age of five. So when I got to home, you 312 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: all in, you all in back there, two years old, 313 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: back down? Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, yeah it was. 314 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: So once I got to high school, I think I 315 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: had a buddy take me to my first uh introduced 316 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: me to the Yellow Jackets when I was in middle school. 317 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: And actually he's a pastor now, and a buddy by 318 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: the name of Chris Kayer introduced me to the music. 319 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: He introduced you to the music and then it ran 320 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: back to the church. That what he did basically obviously no, 321 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it was like and then later 322 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: on I had a buddy. This changed my life. He 323 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: took me to my first jazz club and it was over. 324 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I snuck out and from there. I don't know why 325 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: my parents, why my mom has this, because my dad 326 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: passed away when I was nine, and so I don't 327 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: know why my mother had this. But I had a bed, 328 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: I had a door in my bedroom, so I would 329 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: literally sneak out to go here jazz music. And by 330 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: high school I I had older mentors that said, hey man, 331 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: you need to start doing some gigs, and so they 332 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: will call me while I was in high school to 333 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: go play some gigs. And that's where that's when the 334 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: bug bait me. And the thing about it is, I'm 335 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: trying to really figure this out, is that a lot 336 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: of times is that when you have resistance in terms 337 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: of I remember my family even at that time they said, 338 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: hey man, drummers come a dime a dozen. But in 339 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: my mind I'm thinking, like, well, I'm gonna be that 340 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: dime in a dozen. So I think parents not just 341 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: handing everything to you sometimes, you know, it's kind of 342 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. It's almost like it makes you 343 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: want it more and it makes you go after. Like 344 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I had a conversation with a family member to day 345 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: and and he talked about you know, we we talked 346 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: about how having a plan B. I'm gonna be honest 347 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I told him this because I 348 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: always flattered them because I love basketball. I said, actually, 349 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: my plan A was to make it to the NBA. 350 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: But at the agent probably nine about the leaven my 351 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: brother told me I was wasn't going to make it 352 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: to the NBA. Show Killer, dream Killer. Yeah he Drinkiller 353 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: and Dreamkiller or truth Tellers, Muggsy bowls. He making it. 354 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: He made it to the NBA five ft three, Now 355 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: come on see him? And so well was about old. 356 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: That was okay, But I'm just saying, I mean, what 357 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: is the percentage have been a musician? Okay? While liar 358 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I would say this so so to bring it all in, 359 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: I just I feel like this, like I'm thinking about 360 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: people that have a plan B. And I'm not saying 361 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: I believe you should have a plan B and C. 362 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: But for me, in my mind, most people that I 363 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: know that has a plan A that means their resistance 364 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: and their drive A lot of times it's not gonna 365 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: quit when they know. And if I don't believe then 366 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean I told my family. They were like, hey, 367 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: you go to school for music in New York. I 368 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: went to music school in New York, and so they 369 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: were like, you know. I told my mom, ye, I'm 370 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: going there. You know I can teach, you know, that's 371 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the plan be to them. When I in my mind, 372 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm going to New York to 373 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: play with the great and I want to tour and 374 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: do music for a living. That's what my mind was 375 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: saying to me the whole time. We'll be right back 376 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. 377 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations master Class with 378 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I remember when I um but my degrees 379 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: in mathematics. I worked for IBM, and I left IBM 380 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: to be a stand up comedian and so I so 381 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: in my mind, I always I could always go back. 382 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: That was my plan. B was sitting in the back 383 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: of my mind, this jokey joke things. I'm not gonna 384 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: be the next Andie Murphy, next Richard Pryor. Then I 385 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: could always go back, you know I was. I didn't 386 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: leave with no, with no discard. You know they were crying. 387 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: I walked out the door. But it was when I 388 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: decided you no, going back was not an option. That 389 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: commitment you have to one time in your life. If 390 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: you say you're gonna go to college, if you say 391 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get married, you say you're gonna be in 392 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: a relationship, you're saying you're gonna have a children. That's 393 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: about commitment. And when you make that commitment. That's why 394 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: always trying to shape these stories that really they can. 395 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: They can line up in anything that you do, whether 396 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: it's losing weight or getting in shape, or getting married, 397 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: a dating, or having children, or job or starting their business. 398 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: All this these variables really align themselves to the same conversation. 399 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: It's commitment. And if you're gonna have a committed effort, 400 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: it has to be tied to goals. And when you 401 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: tie things to goals, then your dreams can become a reality. 402 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: And that's what people make the mistake all the time. 403 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: They have all these dreams, no commitment. They have all 404 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: these dreams, no goals, and guess what happens. Frustration sets in. 405 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: The nay says become the kings of your conversation, and 406 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're sitting back depressed, not and 407 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're forty years old saying I 408 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: wish you I should have done this. Fifty years old, 409 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I could have done this six years old. You're mad, 410 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: you mad, and just all your stories about what you 411 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: could have done. When I tell people, do not use 412 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: age as an excuse. If you have a dream, you 413 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: can still do that for you and you still got 414 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: talents associated with it, do it. I'll tell you this. 415 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: I gotta say this. So you just mentioned something. You 416 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: just talked about age, So here you go. In in 417 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: our twenties, I was in the Yellow Jackets. In Jean's twenties, 418 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: she was in john So when we started this independent 419 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: grind started all the way back in two thousand five. 420 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Jean left, uh left the group Johnny, I think in 421 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: two thousand or something like that. So I'm saying all 422 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: that to say this. Two thousand five, all way up 423 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: to two thousand seventeen was nothing, was building and starting 424 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: our independent journey. Now we went to labels. We did 425 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: all that, nothing happened. We put out some independents, spent money. Uh, 426 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: we lost money, made bad decisions and you know, just 427 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: in terms of that, it was like the education process, 428 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: like getting a master's degree. So yes, so so basically 429 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: I was saying that, you know, we made decisions. And 430 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: and the fast forward from two thousand five now comes 431 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: two thousand around fourteen, and I took a long shower 432 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: and it hit me and said, hey, we should start 433 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: this band called the Build a Project where you know, 434 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: at the time when I left the Yellow Jackets, I 435 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: wasn't doing as much touring. I was doing more production 436 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: and producing in the studio Gene and I and I 437 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: just said, I want to get back to playing Gene 438 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: and you know you can you know where it features 439 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: me on drums and you're singing. You know, we have 440 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: a full band and everything. And so I said, man, 441 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: that would really be cool, and she said that is 442 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: the dumbest IDEA said, okay, don't worry about it. We're 443 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: gonna write some music and making you said, don't make 444 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: no sense. Okay, So this is two thousand, fourteen, fifteen. 445 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: So we end up doing our first gig at three 446 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: shows at this place called Smoke Jazz Club. The first 447 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: step was okay. It's the thought of okay, crowd, no 448 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: no offen the frind to bring it in. I'm gonna 449 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: bring it all in. So we did our first show. 450 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: It was okay. The first two sets was rocking and 451 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: it was packed, and it was packed. And out of 452 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: that started a residency for like eight to nine months. 453 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: So that was the birthding of the Bila project. We're 454 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: going to studio every card and we released this album. Now, 455 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the industry tells you, well, the industry, the way it's 456 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: been shaped for years is that it's a youngest person's 457 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: industry where your game twenties, your best years, or in 458 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: your thirties. Check this out. We're over our forties. Our 459 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: first album drops and comes out right. This album gets 460 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: nominated for two Grammys, Best Jazz Vocal Album and a 461 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Song laughs and move on, it's for Best Traditional R 462 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: and B Performance. Why I'm on famous, Marcus, You're saying 463 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: is because the thing about it is is that it 464 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: is never too late to go after your goals and 465 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: your dreams right now. And I'm gonna put it out 466 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: there because a lot of times is that the industry 467 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: says that, hey man, you're you know, age is what's 468 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: in your mind. It's what's So there's a new book 469 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: that's being written, and the book is this. I'm Marcus Baylor. 470 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm forty six years old. My wife Jeane, can I 471 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: tell me your age? Baby? I'm not thinking for you 472 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: this year. How I'm on forty sixty five? Okay, y'all, 473 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: I'll forget my age. I'll let you know that. You 474 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: say young because you stopped counting, so that'd be okay. 475 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: I stopped counting, boy, so just started to forget that 476 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: five years old. And my wife Jean, it's fifty one. 477 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: So check it out. We are two thousand and twenty two. 478 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Last year we had a song that was Grammy nominated 479 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Cars Sit On Down for Best Traditional R and P. Performance. 480 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: This year, our album Generations is nominated for UH Best 481 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Jazz Vocal Album, and we just was was blessed to 482 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: win an n Double A CP Award this year for 483 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Best Jazz Album Vocals. Now, it ain't about the accolade 484 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: of this and that, But what I'm trying to tell 485 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: you is this is that age and you starting your 486 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: goals and your dreams. And we literally started over when 487 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: we started to build a project. So I'm saying that 488 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: all to say this is that no matter what your 489 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: age is, if you have the if you have the 490 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: the breath, and I'm gonna call it rest to dream, 491 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: then once you dream, you gotta go after that thing 492 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: and put a plan together like you said, and pursue 493 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: that and pursue those goals. And this is the thing. 494 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Everything that we've done so far, I mean, we don't 495 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: say this too many times, but I would say this 496 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: is that everything were small goals that we put into place. 497 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: We didn't wake up one day and just say, hey man, 498 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: we want to play in front of in a theater. 499 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Oh we want to be Grammy nominated. No, let's be 500 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: consistent and persistent when we're playing in front of fifty 501 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: people or when we then only sold ten tickets. Let's 502 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: play as if the place is packed in full. And 503 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: so with that being said, that's where they persisted and 504 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: consist and see comes in that and you understanding your purpose. 505 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: So hopefully this you know, will help somebody. Well, it 506 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: helped me because that's what I talked about all the time, 507 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm known for telling people. Ages don't 508 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: let age be an excuse to your dreams being achieved 509 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: and gene. You know when you talk about that only 510 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: ten people in the audience you're got in front now 511 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: or that sold that audience? You're out in front and 512 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: you get to see those faces, You get to see 513 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: what the music and what you're doing and people reacting 514 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: to it. How do how does that affect how you 515 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: perform you know at being an entertainer or does it 516 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: take you to another level emotionally? Does that? Does that? 517 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Does that give you a little more used to give 518 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: one hundred one thousand, ten thousand percent talk about that 519 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: experience as a performer. So yes and no, Like when 520 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: you know you draw from the audience for sure, Um, 521 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if audiences really know that. But you 522 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: know when you can feel of the energy from an 523 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: audience that you know, it inspires us as artists on stage. 524 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, um, Now, one thing you know, 525 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: especially in jazz, you're gonna be in front of different audiences. Um. 526 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: And so you know, sometimes I'll talk to my um 527 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: when I teach, and sometimes I'm tough telling my students 528 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: and like listen, you gotta be able to really you know, 529 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: a song is a song, but when you come before people, 530 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: it's really a selfless act. When you go before people 531 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: to perform and sing and do what you do. Um, 532 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: if you're doing it, you know, and the right frame 533 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: of mind, but it's important to kind of just just 534 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of sense the room and um. So it'll be 535 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: a song where I may sing, I don't always sing 536 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: it the thing that way every night. For instance, the 537 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: there's a song called Praise Songs, Hollylujah song, and there's 538 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: a whole story behind that. But know when we did 539 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: it in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and it was like all black audience, 540 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: you know how we do. We talked back to it. 541 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Come on now, hey, all right now, I mean, you know, 542 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: we had a good buddy, Shedrick Mitchell on the organ 543 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: and he asked a fool when he gets on the organ, 544 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: and and it was just a whole thing. And then 545 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, when we were in I believe it was 546 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: brought Oslava, Europe, it's completely different vibe. They do not 547 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: talk to you like, hey, say, it's just not part 548 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: of the air culture, you know, and they could be 549 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: enjoying it and you're kind of one and well I think, 550 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: but they're listening, so you understanding that they're they're really listened. 551 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: But the spirit of the room was completely different, and 552 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: the lady sung it completely differently we performed it that 553 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: it was just it was just a different vibe all together. UM, 554 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: And it's just responding to that space in the moment, 555 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: and and they definitely enjoyed it. The you know, one 556 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: of the ladies embrace me after afterwards, and she didn't 557 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: speak English and I didn't speak her language. So anyway, Yeah, 558 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: it does affect in a way, I think what you 559 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: do because you're you almost can't help it. You know, 560 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: if they're vibing with you, you're gonna be vibing right back. 561 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's not people. If you're 562 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: in Japan, they're going to kind of express themselves differently 563 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: and depending on the age of the audience and that 564 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: sort of thing. So at the end of the day, 565 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: you have to kind of have an idea of what 566 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: it is that you are trying to um give to 567 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: the audience. When you go out there. Sometimes you may 568 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: have very discouraging situations UM and it's important to kind 569 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: of learn how to handle those. Well. I did it 570 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: really badly one time. I gotta I gotta figure it out. 571 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, being a bit a performer is amazing because 572 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: you're right. Sometimes I been a performing on stage, some 573 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: people give your standing ovations and some people were standing 574 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: and walk out. That's me talking. That's a standard, and 575 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: it gives you a different reactions. I have some people 576 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I've had quiet audience and say, man, you're the funniest 577 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: person ever saw. I said, wish you told your faith. Okay, 578 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: because I didn't see any laughter come out of your face. Okay. 579 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: Will Will helped me out there, but I just want 580 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: to take the time. This was a journey. That's what 581 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: I do. On Money Making Conversation Masterclass and allowing me 582 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: to speak to the Grammar nominated jazz duo Marcus and 583 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Gene Baylor for their new album The Bailor Project. Generations 584 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: appreciated a husband, a wife and astounding duo built on love, family, faith, 585 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: culture and community. I wish you luck and uh on 586 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: that fantastic night, and again, thank you for coming on 587 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Master Thank you so much. Thank you 588 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: so much for having us, and we hope to come 589 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: down to your area soone and what we do, we're 590 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna let you know, be blessed, and stay safe.