WEBVTT - Preseason Week 2 Notes; Flashpoint Focus Returns! 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.640 Be around the NFL podcast gets Sick of Football a 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.360 little earlier each year from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.200 That's not a good sign. It's around the NFL, and 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.400 it's untrue. It's cynical for some of us. I'm Dan Hansas, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:24.279 joined by some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. The dropt 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.640 actually reminds me of a very funny tweet we got 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.240 last week, I believe, which it said Mark is always 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.800 like hoping for this season to speed up, but he's 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.159 also hoping for the off season to speed up. So 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.080 it was saying, like, does Mark just have a problem 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.280 with the concept of time? Right? It's becoming more of 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.000 just the thing. The idea of time is becoming greater 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.280 issue to Mark. It's a fair critique, but I do 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.080 think and I'm not just saying this like this time around, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.440 I am excited for football, and I don't feel like 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.400 I'm attached team fan wise to uh you know two 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.880 version of the Titanic from although you were tweeting out 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.760 ernest ns and I was like, when he decided to 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:07.360 throw on the game pass of a preseason game, I 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.679 covered them all at didn't didn't see any on Rashad 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.399 White of the Bucks or anything. He also didn't seem 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.000 overly cessiler. Did you did you? Did you guys notice 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.399 that or do you notice that Greg Dearnest Johnson is 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.160 on track to flat out start somewhere in the NFL 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.440 down the line. That's a little hot tachy from Mark. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.880 I think it can Like I really thought that last year. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.080 I think that happens when he when he's watching. He 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.920 had to have been watching him though. I was yeah 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.440 to get that. But Mark will do that, so he's 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.200 a tape dog. On the subject of preseason games, I 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.640 want to share with you my three things, um that 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.080 I care about with the preseason, which is mercifully over 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:54.600 next weekend. One did anyone substantial get injured? Two? Did 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.320 a rookie or maybe a making the leap type guy 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.080 blow up in some way? Three? Did the Ravens win? 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.120 But can you guys answer me how Week two went 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.160 for the preseason any of those things? Did anybody substantial, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.079 like a starting level, big time guy get hurt? Well, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.120 that's coming up in the news somewhat but not not 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:18.760 a time. But like some develop mean players, did a 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.840 rookie are making the leap? Dude? Blow up. I would say, yes, certainly, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.120 there's there's some uh examples of that. You can find 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:31.240 it on the sixty eight uh things that takeaways from 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.760 preseason we two on. Most of them weren't from the 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:41.840 games there did. Hell yeah, yes, what are we up to? 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.440 Two games in a row. It is forget about and 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.280 they're not even trying this year. What are the great streaks? 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.960 I mean, none of them to me measure up what 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:59.359 we're seeing. This bigger than whatever two straight preseason wins. Now, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.400 couldn't you argue this is what they've done because the 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.360 preseason has so many X factors and bizarre variables that 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.720 this outshines the cal Ripken streak. Well, it might be 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.160 more improbable because like he got up in the morning 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.560 and played baseball, went to work like a couple thousand 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.600 times in a row. They they they haven't played their 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.720 starters either. For you, I mean, I guess they've been 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.720 playing teams that haven't played their starters. So it's it's even. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.080 But it's not like Lamar's out there. It's not like 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.200 any of these starters. That's why it's just in the culture, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.000 that's why it's a total flex It's like it's the 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.240 biggest sports story nobody talks about trying to make it 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.520 a thing. Last night, it was on I was writing 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.760 my my article while I had it on in the background, 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.960 and they were mentioned how Trace McSorley, who of course, uh, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.080 of course contributed to a few of those wins with 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.280 the Ravens now starting for the Cardinals, and he's like, look, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.240 I know how much it means over there, like they 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.280 take it serious. If we don't, if we don't, if 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:53.840 we're not on our p's and ques, we're gonna be 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.160 in trouble. And you know what he was. They were 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.880 down twenty four to three until Kyler Murray came in 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.160 as a play caller. The next Mike Martz, I think 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.160 that it's a great move by the Cardinals. By the way, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.120 that is a sneaky, high level pr move. It's because, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.800 by the way, oh, the story was ten days ago. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.640 Kyler Murray like is it just wants to sit around 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 and play like he wants the game all day long. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.040 But now he just steps in and calls a pristine 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.920 Chris Path of football. What is your quarterback to me? 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.919 I saw some on tech z'mall was getting pumped about 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.520 that too. And it just made me think of, like, yeah, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.000 he's probably calling the same three plays he calls in Madden. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.120 You know the guy that runs three Madden plays over 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:31.960 and over again. He's like whatever he does in his 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.520 gaming life. He just translated over and he McSorley got 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.600 down to the one almost scored, and then he you know, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.360 it's third and goal. You just need like a foot 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.760 and he called like a read option with McSorley going 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.520 going over. And I was laying based on the show 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.159 last Monday, by the way, for bringing up Trace McSorley 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.600 as a spicy this August. This was more in the 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:56.919 Kyler Cliff went for six oh for six scoring touchdowns 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.200 as the play Kyler Kyler comes in two for two 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.960 when his first it doesn't matter. Although there was what 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.239 you look for the rookie sort of break up, Isaiah 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.680 Likely is the thing six for one in the first 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.440 half of that game. Like, I didn't even throw it 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:10.919 in the column at this point because we talked too 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.440 much about Isaiah Likely. He is like a rookie tight 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.839 end who is probably their third best receiver right now. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.279 It sounds like he's likely to come up often this 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.200 season on around the NFL. Payton tried to do that 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:30.080 to coming up on today's show. It listen, the people 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:36.080 wanted it, but you can't rush some things. You have 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:41.599 to wait for the right moment. Nay. The flash point, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:49.400 Oh yeah, flash point focus flash points, it's about getting 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:54.280 in front the story, not reacting to the story. The 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.599 flash point series is back. Testimonial flash point is simply 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:05.599 also what an ongoing serious It's perfectly time these guys. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:15.520 That's what the flash points about. Oh yeah, I mean no, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.919 I it's back. I recognize some voices and just for 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.600 that thirty seconds of Dan finally just feeling pure joy 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:28.000 listening to his creation. It's good you didn't rush it. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.720 And I was was that a testimonial section within that? 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:36.400 There was very rich? Wow, So what I was expecting 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.560 you to find the clips of us, you know, talking, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.920 Baker talking Carson Wentz like right before they truly reached 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.159 it stands on its own, Yeah, stands on it. And 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.200 also you should know, uh many many people reached out 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.920 to me for the Greg's a jerk sound drop, and 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.040 I was like, just all different directions as a guy 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.719 says no, no, no, no. You sent a group email 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.640 said who wants to take it and that was settling 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:08.400 scores all over the place. All right, So that's coming 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:13.120 up Flashpoint series Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We have been patient. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.040 It's been a long time. It's like you think about 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:20.840 Terence Mallick, the director. He directed in nineteen seventy eight 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.080 Days of Heaven and then he waited twenty two years 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.240 to drop the Thin Red Line years, and I think 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:29.840 there's a parallel here. He was a he was a 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.160 master class director, and Flashpoints is something that we hold 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.400 in such high es steam that we're not going to 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.160 rush it. Although after that he just started turning him out. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.160 So is that what we're gonna do? A We're gonna wait, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.360 Well we're not. We'll go our own way. But right 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.920 we're following the Malleck. Justin fun fact, my very first 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.160 internship ever was for Terence Mallick as an office intern 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.440 back in Austin, Texas. Was he nice? He was really nice. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.800 Finally gonna like, I actually would like to speak with 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.720 you after he writes his scripts on the typewriter. Still 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.440 and it's really interesting, isn't it nice that also you 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.960 finally founded in Road with Mark. Yeah, we've been had 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.000 a little tension on the show. But it's but now 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.440 it's organic and we didn't force it. It's organic, Mike. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.000 It all fits kind of like today's flash point. Very 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.000 well done, and we have a special guest, uh coming 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.840 on to talk. It is Scott Reynolds from Pewter Report 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.160 dot com, The Bucks and Tom Brady, who returned to 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.720 practice today after his mysterious absence that maybe was connected 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:34.160 to a really goofy Fox reality show, maybe according to rumors. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.960 You know, I have connection just like you guys do. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.560 Two people in the business of show living here in 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.320 Los Angeles. I got some I got a text on 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:49.000 good authority. It was like buying it's real. He's going 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.800 to be on the mesk Singer. I mean, I'll believe you, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.120 but I find that believe me. I'm just saying this 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.360 is somebody's she stepped away if it were was a 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.760 personal matter like they called it, if you stepped away 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.560 to do the mass singer. I do think that that 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.240 Tom Brady has has has departed mentally. I got a 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.880 source that said the opposite, also not doing the mess. Yes, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.520 this is a source off, isn't it. Now? This isn't 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.920 my reporting side Triple sources. Everyone knows, um, but this 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.280 is just one source that it told me that. Hello. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.679 Oh well, I mean there are It does line up 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.520 and very it's a compelling conspiracy theory. All right, let's 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.679 before we get to flashpoint. Let's get to the news. Now. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.200 Everyone get out your popcorn, because the Panthers announced Baker 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.560 Mayfield as their starting quarterback, which means he's going to 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.960 be facing the very same team that drafted him number 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:52.600 one overall. Trauma, Okay, no drama. Yes, many of us 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.280 saw it coming, and now it's official. Baker Mayfield will 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.280 be the Week one starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.840 when they face Baker Mayfield's former team, the Browns in Charlotte. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.320 Head coach Matt Rule announced the decision Monday. Here is 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.400 his statement that was released by the website or his quote. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.160 When we started this process, we were looking at three things. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:20.720 Number one mastery of the offense, Number two situational football excellence, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.239 and number three moving the ball and getting guys involved. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.880 That's been our focus all along. Baker has made a 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.439 lot of improvement, a lot of growth in all three 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.400 areas in a short amount of time. So it's Sam 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.040 Donald last year's started will back up Baker Mayfield, and 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:43.080 we will see if Mayfield Greggy ken Um basically resurrect 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.040 his career after a very tough ending in Cleveland. Well, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.559 I do want to thank Matt Rule and Scott Fitter 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.080 and everyone who saved us from Sam Donald being a 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.920 Week one starter in the NFL makes this organization more entertaining, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.000 makes that game against the Browns more entertaining. I mean, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.520 they might be favored. I got questions about the Browns roster. Uh, certainly, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.080 I you know, it's it's certainly spicier, and I think 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:13.320 there's a chance here that Matt Rules offense helps him out. Uh. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.280 I Like, even if you put up Teddy Bridgewaters numbers 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.840 from two years ago for the Panthers this year, like 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.600 the Panthers would just be a much better, more watchable team. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.040 He'll do it in a much more entertaining different way. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.040 I feel like they wasted a little too much time 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.680 pretending this was a battle. But it's fine it ended here. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.520 I mean, they could have brought him in earlier too, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.480 after all this, but it's it's funny to me that 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.000 Cleveland will be paying Baker Mayfield ten point five million 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.880 dollars to potentially start their season off on a loan note. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.040 That's such as it really is. I mean this year especially, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.319 I it's for Sam Donald. I think your days as 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.000 even competing to be a starting quarterback in the NFL 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.160 based outside of some sort of truly chaotic scenario down 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.960 the line, it's over. And it's kind of depressing a 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.439 little bit on the Donald front, because in theory, he 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.320 should have been a heavy favorite for someone who knew 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.920 the offense, for someone that had the entire bulk of 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.880 the off season. He's just not a better quarterback. I 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.480 think Baker Mayfield, for all the you think that Sam 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.480 Donald is a better quarterback than Baker Mayfield. I just 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.160 want to see both of them play on the same team. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.319 I'm looking forward to the season. That's fine, it's very 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.480 possible both will play, But I really genuinely think that 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:26.199 from the very beginning making more accomplished obviously, but uh 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.000 and if we want, yeah, we could use this to 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.880 write the eul GI of Sam Donald's career. But I 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.720 just would not be shocked if you end up seeing 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.880 both of these quarterbacks Baker from the moment he got there, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.960 even though they did present it almost out of it 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.640 seemed like respect for Donald, who had been in the 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.600 building for over a year. They made it look like 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.640 it was a competition, but it never was. This was 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.280 Baker's job to win and he I'm happy that he's 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.520 doing against the Browns a week one. That's just fun. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.560 But this will be something I'll be interested to see 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.719 where things are at at this position by October. M 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.800 I'm just not as high on Mayfield. I know you're not, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.880 but he's had moments hurt. I get it. But even then, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.960 Donald is among the biggest bus in NFL history to me, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.839 like I really would put that for a top period. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.840 Are you kidding? One of the biggest bus in NFL history? 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.120 For I think if you just look at the number. Now, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.120 he got a longer timeline, but if you just look 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.600 at the numbers of quarterbacks who have started that amount 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.240 of games over like a four year period, it's there 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.760 with anyone in the last twenty years, basically any number 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.480 and and that, and and those guys usually don't get 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.160 as many chances as he did. So it's a little 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.160 different than like an Achilles Smith or guys like that 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.400 who who only got one year or two years. It 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.599 doesn't matter. Maybe he'll end up playing. I'm sure he 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.200 will again as a backup somewhere. He'll get another chance, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.440 and you're right, Dan, it'll probably be like one this year, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.320 but this gives him a shot. It's a week division. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.800 We'll talk about that later with Scott Reynolds. But there's 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.000 some there's some possibility here because I think Baker, in 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.199 light of everything that's happened with Cleveland this year, I 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.640 think it would be kind of a little bit delicious 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.240 if Mayfield had a big season. Um So I'm okay 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.400 if if if what you say, well happen happens, and 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.440 Baker Mayfield is missing starts because he's been benched, his 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.280 career is also in a very dark place. He's a 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.400 backup to I think, Yeah, I think Donald with this 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.840 is heading into that he's a number two guy and 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.480 probably can hang around for a few years. But I think, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.040 and it's it's telling like this is it for rat Rule. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.120 He's got to win with Baker Mayfield. I think there's 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.200 a chance he could. But Matt Matt Carroll's injury over 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.560 the weekend, he's gonna miss the season. Remember that's the 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.680 third round pick that they took Uh in the draft. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.400 To me is it's very like typical of everything with 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.960 this Matt ruler. If he goes, I think he If 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.080 Matt Rule doesn't survive this year, I think he's gonna 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.720 really look back and hate the half measures he took. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.720 It always half measures. Teddy was a little Teddy was 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.480 a half measure that they gave two years. Gary teed 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.520 he was okay, not great. They wanted to upgrade Donald 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.560 ended up being a half measure too early, Like they 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.960 could have gotten a draft pick last year. They could 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.240 have gotten mac Jones, they could have gotten justin fields, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.720 they could have gone bigger at the position. And Baker 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.760 was kind of a last minute half measure and Matt 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.520 Carroll was kind of a half measure, like we're not 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.960 gonna go all the way in for our rookie quarterbacks 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.440 this year, but we are going to give up a 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.720 third round pick UH to move up UH for next 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.160 year for whoever's running this team next year. They don't 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.320 have their third round pick. The Patriots have it and 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.200 a fourth round pick to go get Corral So you 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.400 hate to see him get injured. But just like it 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.440 was a lot of like we didn't ever want to 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.800 go all in and then suddenly you might be gone. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.960 They lack identity, and I think, you know, I look 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.920 at the GM two. I mean it's not been It's 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.120 for a team that came in under their ownership with 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.480 such urgency when attached to Matt rule. We're in the 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.160 year three and I see no distinct characteristics about who 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.040 the Panthers are right now. Maybe big I guess, to 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.320 be fair, they tried. They just swung and missed. They 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.040 wanted Staff, they wanted Watson, they just didn't um and 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.960 I could, I could hear it now. So I just 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.200 want to get out in front of this. I am 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.480 not saying that Sam Donald has a career ahead of 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.520 him that's going to be shining. But when you say 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.280 he's one of the biggest bus in the history of 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.040 the NFL, given me a quarterbacks specific was never in 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.120 position to be successful in the league. And there are 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.280 guys like JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf and Vernon Golston 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.560 who are outright disasters who were next level type bus. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.040 I'm thinking quarterback category to me, Yeah, I get I guess, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.120 but give me the quarterbacks that you would put in 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.960 a different category than him, that that have played. I 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.400 guess Russell Russells your example, Russell, if you wanted to 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.960 go look, had had some moments. Now he even in 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.840 the top ten of that draft. I think you could 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.840 look at the guy that was taken by the Arizona 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.960 Cardinals as a bigger bus than Donald. Where is that guy? 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.360 He's on the Browns. Probably will not be in the 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.640 next month, but he is on the Browns right now. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.880 I'm calling him that guy because his name is this 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:06.600 gave to me raging bust, and that's not I'm just saying. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.639 I guess like people like and I hope he can 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.120 have like a gabber like career, But to me, like that, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.600 that's where you're at longer than a Gabbard and Achilles Smith, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:22.159 those top picks who got a little chill Smith, Yeah, alright, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.080 he didn't. Let let's pause right here and take a break. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:29.160 We'll be right back. Um. Another former first round pick, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.640 current first round pick. Wouldn't you become a former first 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:36.120 round pick next year? I guess Kenny Pickett. I think 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.640 he's just the first round pick. He's just the first 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.879 round pick. After his career, he's balling out in the 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.640 preseason six or seven seventy six yards touchdown against the Jaguars, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.840 uh this weekend, and uh. You know Kenny Pickett, Mark, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.120 there have been um positive comments about him. There there 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.320 was criticism about how he started his camp and he 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.280 looked very green and like a rookie. But now when 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.960 he's starting to stack up these preseason performances, it goes 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.840 back to what I was saying a few weeks ago, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.520 like we need to see how he performs in these 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.120 games before we decide or before we are sure that 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.639 somebody like a Mason Rudolph or anyone else is starting 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.639 quarterback for this team. I still tend to think that 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.240 they would like to roll Mitch Robiskie out there early 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.359 because their offensive line, according to I think Mark Copoli 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.760 is one of the best Steelers reporters out there and 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.879 has said that on a day to day basis, the 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.280 line has looked more fractured and messy, uh than a 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.439 year ago, which is a big problem. That was a 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.400 problem for Big Ben. That said, when you watch Kenny Pickett, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.160 it's just like in these games, and I think that's 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.080 an argument for the preseason. I'm not a big preseason 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.040 fan at all, but like the chance that we've had 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.919 to experience Kenny Pickett in game situations, and he was 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.960 playing the starters against the Jaguars. In this recent affair, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.240 he's played with starters against right and he's looked fantastic, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:58.640 And I think he's sort of everything that Mike Tomlin 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.040 said he wanted post, big and a mobile quarterback. He 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.480 can throw on the run really well, he does well 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.880 off script. I just I think this is the problem 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.600 here for a little bit, if you're Mitch Robisky or 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.120 anyone else, is that this is a special situation where 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.919 this is someone who Pittsburgh already loves because where he 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.000 went to school and who he is, and he's showing 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.359 up really well at in these games. I don't know 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:18.880 how you fend him off for more than a week 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.080 or sin. Mike Tomlin loves him. I mean he was 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.320 Tomlin said on the draft. The night of the draft, 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.640 they asked, would you be open to starting Kenny pick 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.960 It week one and go look at his words? He said, yes, 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.040 I think he's got a shot. We're taping this on Monday, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.080 so it's kind of an awkward time. We'll see what 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.160 they do with their practice reps. But after the game, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.840 Tomlin said, just that's who he is. Pick it because 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.320 he let a two minute drive and his numbers are great. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.199 But actually Trabisky's numbers are quite good, and Mason Rudolfs 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.960 numbers are great too, and none of them have been 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.120 protected well. Trabinsky, especially against other starters, has had no 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.400 protection and he survived pretty well. But what Tomlin said 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.200 after the game to me was very telling. He said, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.560 that's who he is in terms of picket's ability to 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.879 come up in the clutch. He did it next door. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.439 He probably did in high school. He probably did it 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.199 in Little league. Some things people are born with, like 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.520 he's not talking about that about Trabisky or Rudolph. And 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.280 I tend to think you're right. I think Trabisky probably 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.399 gets weak one. But we might find out by Wednesday 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.120 that that's that that's wrong and that the least now 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.119 is extremely short because of pickets preseason. In other news, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:32.439 the Washington Commanders, this Antonio Gibson situation is getting dicey. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.520 The running back Um served as Washington's kick returner in 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.359 their preseason game against the Chiefs. He's playing behind Brian, 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.120 Brian Robinson and Greg This was not the game plan. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.160 This is not how Washington saw their offensive maturing with 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.960 Carson Wentz, and they thought Gibson was a major guy. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.359 But maybe he's not because the team and the coaching 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.439 staff is not seemed to be very excited right now. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.679 It could be Ron Rivera sending a message, but Brian 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.119 Robinson just is a kind of straight ahead I'm gonna 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.280 try to get the yards that are there guy, and 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:07.040 Ron Rivera literally said last week Antonio Gibson needs to 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.879 run harder, and I don't think that means their roles 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.640 are flipped and that Gibson's definitely the backup, but it's 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.920 gonna be a three person committee. This is a guy 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.600 that was getting taken Gibson in the very high reaches 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.240 of fantasy drafts, while Robinson was barely getting drafted at all. 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.080 And it feels like a three man committee at best 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.080 for Gibson with j D. Mckissic also being a big, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.520