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Speaker 1: That's not a good sign. It's around the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: it's untrue. It's cynical for some of us. I'm Dan Hansas,

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Speaker 1: joined by some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. The dropt

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Speaker 1: not saying that Sam Donald has a career ahead of

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Speaker 1: vast majority of my sixty eight things we learned from

427
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Speaker 1: this last week was not from the games. It was

428
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Speaker 1: just second Yeah, I mean I believe in it. I'm

429
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: putting too. But I think for for you, Mark, you know,

430
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: when you think about the fantasy element of this week

431
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: and you think about what how important you are to

432
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: this show, I think you should listen to what Carson

433
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Wentz has been trying to tell us all off season.

434
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, as we all know, decided to really go

435
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: ahead and start to take command that to take amends

436
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: scenario with the fantasy extravaganza. You want me to start

437
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: to do that, Well, it's all hands on deck, you

438
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: know we need When did I suggest I was not

439
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of it on the YouTube show?

440
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: Can we have an instant replay of Mark throwing up

441
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: his hands like we'll talk about that on Wednesday? Well

442
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: that's not the way I said it. But I don't

443
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: think sure rookie injuries to talk about. Here we go.

444
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Speaker 1: That's one of the big three Greg I have. Um,

445
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: I've thought it over, and positional battles do not make

446
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: my top three. Okay, but if you if it doesn't

447
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: mean like it's not definitive, like my top three has

448
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: to be everybody's top three. That's just mine. Yours might

449
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: have more than three or four or five or six,

450
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: and positional battles could be. I love I kind of

451
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: love this time of year because we've wasted, We've spent

452
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Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about not knowing much in

453
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Speaker 1: terms of like how is it all gonna hapen? And

454
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: I think you get into it with the Jets. You

455
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: want to know like who's having good camps, who's having

456
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: the who's up, who's down? Just expand that out by

457
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: thirty two teams because all these like questions of these

458
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: teams like they're being answered quietly. If only I could,

459
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: I could expand myself out to thirty two teams the

460
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: way Greg just does effortlessly. Yes, uh no, that's good.

461
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Speaker 1: I'm happy that it makes you that excited sort of

462
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: a holding for you in terms of coverage and content. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm just running out the clock a little bit and

464
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: getting excited, uh for next week's honest it's an honest answer.

465
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Speaker 1: Rookie injuries, Giants first round pick outside Russia, Cavon Thibodeau,

466
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Speaker 1: our friend out three to four weeks with a sprained

467
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Speaker 1: MCL got taken out by a low block That led

468
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Speaker 1: to a lot of Internet discussion and consternation. Not everybody

469
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Speaker 1: has to have takes on everything, guys, you know, apparently

470
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Speaker 1: they do this world. You know, every we're always fighting

471
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: about stuff. Do we need to be fighting about everything?

472
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: How about we just say bummer that the rookie, that

473
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Speaker 1: kid hurt his knee. I hope he's gonna be okay.

474
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: Not like I know what block should be legal, illegal.

475
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: You don't know the game, you never played the game.

476
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: You're not a you're not a good guy because you

477
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: see things differently. Enough of that. That's when I switched

478
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: over to TikTok. Seattle running back Kenneth Walker dealing with

479
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: a hernia and uh, he's had he has surgery. So

480
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how long they're gonna be without there

481
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Speaker 1: running back. But there's always an injured runn back when

482
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Speaker 1: they're talking about the Seahawks. That seems hopefully he gets

483
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Speaker 1: better soon enough. And Patriots wide receiver Tekwan Thornton out

484
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: eight weeks. That's a toughie. I think a broken collar bone,

485
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: well collar bone injury. Yeah, but there's different types of

486
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: broken collar bones that he could still return this season,

487
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Speaker 1: but I do think that could impact a potential trade

488
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Speaker 1: because it felt like either either Kendrick Born or maybe

489
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar was gonna get traded. At first, I thought

490
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: it was a but then Born is having a bizarre

491
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Speaker 1: camp where Belichick yelled at him. He got kicked out

492
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Speaker 1: for fighting, Like yeah, people saw bell check like yelling

493
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Speaker 1: at him. That he was benched in the preseason game

494
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: even though he was healthy. There's you know, there was

495
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: some stuff going on there, and he hasn't been targeted

496
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: much but apparently so I was the best receiver this summer.

497
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Speaker 1: Potentially that that might be, but yeah, I like like

498
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: that A smaller a smaller. He's the only one on

499
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: the team that is fast, so I would have liked

500
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Speaker 1: him to be healthy. He'll be a little slower for

501
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: the next eight weeks at least. If the Patriots come

502
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: out and score like thirty five points a game over

503
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: the first month of season, then I'm with you, Dan,

504
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: I will never pay attention to anything that happens in

505
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: the summer ever again, because it just seems so gloomy. Yeah,

506
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. I'm really looking forward to September

507
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: eleven two. Finally in the news, Dana White Um is

508
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: the grand Puba of UFC, Like he's the guy, he

509
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: runs the whole show, and they had one of their events.

510
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: I'm not really a big fan. I don't follow it,

511
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: but I know millions of people love UFC. So whatever

512
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: the big UFC event was this past weekend, he was

513
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: speaking Um as part of some type of round table

514
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: of I don't know, prefight or post fight discussion, and

515
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: he had this to say with Rob Gronkowski in studio

516
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: about a potential sliding door scenario. Never saw the movie

517
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: involving Tom Brady and Grunt and the Las Vegas Raiders,

518
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: So I'm the one. I worked to put that deal

519
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: together for Brady and Gronk to come to the Raiders,

520
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: and it was almost a done deal, and at the

521
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: last minute the deal up and said that he didn't

522
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: want them, and all hell broke loose. Man, it was

523
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: crazy and and and Brady was already looking at houses

524
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: and it wasn't being said yet that Gronk was coming.

525
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: So Las Vegas would have had Brady and Gronk the

526
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: year that the Bucks won the Super Bowl, except Gruden

527
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: blew the deal up, and there's so much story that

528
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: goes along with this behind the scenes. And I was

529
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: never going to tell that story until Gronk just said it.

530
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: But and Dana, I w story, and I'm glad. I'm

531
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: glad at the unbelievable that was Gronk. You heard Hatty

532
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: and there and you know Mark you brought up and

533
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: it was a good point that now that we have

534
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: this information information and you have one of the principles

535
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: tied to it directly confirming it, which was Gronk Brady's

536
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: commentary shortly after when he was on the Shop, the

537
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: NFL Show or the HBO Show with Lebron James. This

538
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: comment he made you could start to, you know, connect

539
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: the red strings. There was a story in Free Agency

540
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: one of the teams they were interested in, all of

541
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: a sudden they weren't interested at the very end. I

542
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: was sitting there thinking, you're sticking with that mother? Are

543
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: you serious? So that motherfucker is Derek Carr? You think so?

544
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just because of what we've learned from this

545
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: where it was this eleventh hour Gruden for whatever reason

546
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: deciding I don't want Tom Brady and Gronk, I don't

547
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: know what you what what the mentality was there? I

548
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: have a guess, by the way, but go on investigation,

549
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I guess it is here we go, Um, no go

550
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: finish your point? Well, no, I I it could have

551
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: been Mitch Robisky because the Bears were in the mix.

552
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: There was just sort of like a couple of quarterbacks

553
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: out there where you like SUSI was Ryan Fitzpatrick Patrick

554
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: February because he was trying to get to the Dolphins

555
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: based on that floorst thing. But the way Brady positioned

556
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: it that it was a sound second. It certainly seems

557
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: to be this story. And my theory is that Gruden,

558
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: who's a control freak with a huge ego. Um, I

559
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: can imagine he didn't want Tom Brady is the boss

560
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: wherever he is now, and that is not the situation

561
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Gruden who wanted that to be his team and his

562
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: team alone. And Derek Carr is someone that I'm not

563
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: saying Derek Carr's upupping on the strings, but he's somebody

564
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: that growted. He's a player ego get it in the way.

565
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: That's that's original, right. There's well for John and Cronks

566
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: like I'm glad that didn't happen and it's like yeah, uh,

567
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: and people were like, really, what do you mean? Really?

568
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: You just want a Super Bowl with the Bucks? You

569
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: could have been partying in Vegas for two straight years.

570
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: That Gronk was sneaky great Uh those two years. But

571
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: that is Um, it is amazing and it is a

572
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: life lesson. I think that it's true and a lot

573
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: of walks of life. More people than you would think

574
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: are just kind of worried about protecting their turf and

575
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: keeping their gig versus like trying to do a good

576
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: job or like succeeding. Yeah. I think that's a sad

577
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: but true commentary on the world. Greg Um. We'll have

578
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: more on Tom Brady and the Box and maybe even

579
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Gronk after this break, when we the return of the

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Speaker 1: Signature series of Around the NFL Signature. It's time right back.

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00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: The Flashpoint series is back studying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

582
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: what comes next for Tom Brady's team, and to help

583
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: us navigate this conversation is a man who's in his

584
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: seven year covering the Bucks. Um currently with Pewter Report

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00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: dot Com and Scott Reynolds. You, sir, Welcome to t

586
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: n You sir, predate the Pewter and that shows everyone

587
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: that this dude knows his Bucks history, the president and

588
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: what we need to know from you the future. Yeah,

589
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I do go back to the cream sickles. We're supposed

590
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: to see those this year, but supposedly supply chain issues

591
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: have caused problems. But we'll see the cream sis for

592
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: a throwback game. Now you know what that means? Tom

593
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Brady said, no, I'm not wearing essentially, and oh well, supply,

594
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: let's before we get into what's going around the Bucks,

595
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: because it's got This is an interesting moment in time

596
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: for Tampa because they make sense as a favorite in

597
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the NFC, But then you start to look closer with

598
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: the roster and what's going on around the team, and

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you wonder if this could be a little more of

600
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: a bumpy ride that's some than some people expect. At

601
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: least that's kind of where I am right now with

602
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Tom Brady returned to the facility from his absence.

603
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: He practiced with the team in some capacity today. Is

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00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: everything on the Brady side of things now put to bed?

605
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: It's going to be more like a Tom Brady Buck

606
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: season going forward? Or do you imagine anything any other

607
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: unforeseen absences or anything like that. Moving on. We hope so,

608
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: but we're not sure. This has been the most un

609
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: brady l a year for a guy that is so

610
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: meticulous when it comes to preparation and details and planning.

611
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Remember there was the awkward retirement right where some NFL

612
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: reports beat him to the punch and and then he

613
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: plumbs the lever. Then he and then he retired forty

614
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: one days later, out of the blue on the eve

615
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: of free agency. So now all of a sudden, you

616
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: know it was an excused absence, and then two and

617
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: then will it's his birthday? And then he's not gonna

618
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: be here for the Tennessee week. So this has been

619
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: a very unbrady like year in Tampa Bay. And listen,

620
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: the Bucks are just happy to have him because the

621
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for this team, we're gonna be blamed Gabbert and

622
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask if it wasn't Brady. So they want they

623
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: want one more year Brady, even if the guy just

624
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: shows up on Sundays and plays. Why why do you

625
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: think in terms of how this was handled, Because I

626
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: think if if Tom Brady, you know, a month and

627
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: a half ago, they made it clear there was this

628
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: scheduled time away. Uh, the team knew about it, but

629
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: we're just gonna drop this on all of you football

630
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: fans and reporters out of thin air. I think that

631
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: made it into so much more that it needed to be.

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00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Why would the Bucks if you're the front office, the

633
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: coach is certainly your pr staff, Why stir things up

634
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: that way? I think that's sort of what just threw

635
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: me about this whole situation. Sure, and I think it

636
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: was at Tom Brady's request. I think that's why they

637
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: did it. Here's the thing, whether this was a pre

638
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: planned vacation, whether there is some type of medical issue

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Speaker 1: surrounding a family member. Uh, Tom Brady is a player

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: that goes beyond the coverage of Pewter Report dot com

641
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: or the Tampa Bay Times for example. I mean, he's

642
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: an icon. He is a natural figure. So when you're

643
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: talking about covering this guy, I mean you're talking about

644
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: paparazzi type coverage. I mean, he is a Michael Jordan,

645
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Lebron James. He's an icon. And so imagine if if

646
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Brady said I'm gonna go vacation, I'm gonna take a

647
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: couple of days off or I've got a family medical

648
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: issue to attend to. You're just alerning the paparazzi to

649
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: stake out certain places, right, whether it's hospitals in California,

650
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: if something happened to his parents, or you know, the

651
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: the hotspots Brady likes to go. Just you get a

652
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: picture of Tom not at Bucks pro this, right, so

653
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: I can see why he did it. And I do

654
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: know that he's a public figure, he is a worldwide icon.

655
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: At the same time, I still believe everybody deserves some

656
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: level of privacy. And yes, we'd like to know, but

657
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with knowing after the fact he's back, and

658
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I think that's all Buccaneer fans really care about right now.

659
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: And if you're going to vacation, if you're going to

660
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: take some time away to see maybe annailing family member,

661
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the reason is, it's just speculation.

662
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: The time to do it is in training camp in August,

663
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: because once the season comes, Brady will be locked in.

664
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: He didn't come back for a twenty third year in

665
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: the league at age forty to mess around. He's coming

666
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: back to win another Super Bowl, right. I wouldn't be

667
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: surprised if he had some sports science data that actually

668
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: says a time of rest right a month before the

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00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: season is actually optimal for his body at his age.

670
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: And he's at the point of his career game right

671
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: where he's just saying like, Okay, I'm gonna do this

672
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: and this is part of me right, He's like, I

673
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: already booked the hotel room. I can't cancel it to

674
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: come back. I love having your on Scott, because when

675
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: I started at Rotor World in two thousand three, like

676
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: Pewter Report was around then, like that was one of

677
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: the sites then that like we had in our RSS

678
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: feeds to get the latest news. And I'm still looking

679
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: at your site and using it. You had a headline

680
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: I think that said the Kyle Trask experiment is all

681
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: but over from the weekend. I used that in my

682
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: column on Monday because because Blaine Gabbert looks like he's

683
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the backup. I am curious though, with everything

684
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: that's gone around with Brady this offseason and this this

685
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: vibe that they changed the coaching staff but not really

686
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: um and that Brady hasn't been able to practice with

687
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: Evans and Godwin engage because they've had had their injuries

688
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: and and they lost their in Stinny over the weekend,

689
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: and of course they lost Ryan Jensen. Like, just what's

690
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: the vibe of this offense not having gotten in the

691
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: work that usually is so important to Tom Brady and

692
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: just everything around this team kind of compared to what

693
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: it was like the last play years with arians. I'm

694
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: gonna use a visual aid for the vibe. The vibe

695
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: is this fingers crossed. Thank you, it's fingers crossed. And

696
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: keep in mind, I will say this, there was a

697
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, magic in the bottle

698
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: uh in. Remember there was no preseason, there was a

699
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: truncated training camp because of COVID nineteen, there was there

700
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: were no preseason games. So the very first time that

701
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady war buccaneer uniform was in the week one

702
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: season opener at New Orleans and that's the first time

703
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: he threw to Mike Evans and Chris Gobindana game. So

704
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: this is year three, he's two years ahead of that

705
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: almost through for well, he threw for over yards in

706
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: his first year, over five thousand yards last year, forty touchdowns,

707
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: two years ago, winning the Super Bowl in the regular season,

708
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: and then forty three last year. So I feel good

709
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: about where Tom's had in terms of knowing this offense

710
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: and knowing the majority of the pieces. Now there are

711
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: a couple of new offensive weapons. He's got to get

712
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: some some continuity with Russell Gauge, Julio Jones, Kyle Rudolph

713
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: on the offensive side ka Dot and he is the

714
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: hype reel and Julio, you've been at practices, yeah, And

715
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: I think they're doing a really good job of managing him.

716
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds crazy, but he went to Tennessee

717
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: last year and I was talking to some of the

718
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee folks last week at the practices, the joint practices

719
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: in Nashville. He went there to be the number two receiver.

720
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: I think at this stage of the game, with the injuries,

721
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: he just his body is not going to hold up

722
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: to be that guy. But you know what, he can

723
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: be the league's best fourth wide receiver, and I think

724
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna be. He's gonna be a player

725
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: that every once in a while he's gonna get featured

726
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: and he'll get a hundred yards a game. But maybe

727
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: that happens once or twice this year. There's just so

728
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: many weapons to throw too. But they really don't need

729
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Julio Jones so much in September as they're gonna need

730
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: him in January. And if you go back and look

731
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: at the three years that the Bruce Arians coaching staff,

732
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: let's call it that because Todd Bowles is is you know,

733
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: has been here since twenty in twenty nineteen and then

734
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: last year they just ran out of wide receivers at

735
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: the end of the season due to injury. And this

736
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: is a wide receiver driven offense. The only year where

737
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: they had everybody healthy was in twenty and look what happened.

738
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl. They brought Antonio Brown and

739
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: he added to that mix along with Scottie Millery who

740
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: was having a good year, and of course Evans and

741
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: and Godwin were the thousand yard receivers. So I like,

742
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: what the what the Bucks have done being proactive and

743
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: getting not just a Russell Gauge to replace Antonio Brown,

744
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: but getting a Galicticulio Jones so he can be here

745
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: and learn this offense and be a factor as a

746
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: role player throughout the year. And Mike Evans is obviously

747
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: a rock, but we know Chris Godwin is coming off

748
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: the A c L. And you know, as a Jets fan,

749
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: I remember the Todd Bowls teams when he was at

750
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: the lead. That was that they ran the ball a lot.

751
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: They ran the ball early, umh on downs And just

752
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: curious if you see a five thousand yards season for

753
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Brady or anything close to it. I know for Nett's

754
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: coming back, they invested a high draft pick in Rashad White.

755
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: Do you think this team turns into a more of

756
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: a running oriented team or do you see them continue

757
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: to play through um Brady in the passing game regardless

758
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: of who's on the field. Kind of both. And I

759
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: don't mean to ride defense there, but I see this

760
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: being a pass first offense still, And why wouldn't it

761
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: be right with Tom Brady and Evans and Godwin and

762
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: Russell Gage and Julio Jones. But as you mentioned Leonard

763
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: four Nette, he got paid seven million dollars a year,

764
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: so you might as well use him. The good thing

765
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: with Leonard is he can play in all three downs.

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00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: He's a great receiver out of the backfield. He's one

767
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: of those guys that Tom Brady stood on the table

768
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: for and said, I want Lenny back if I'm coming back.

769
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: I want Lenny back, and then Rashad White is is

770
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: I think gonna be a star in this league. Maybe

771
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: not a you know, a perennial Pro Bowl guy, but

772
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: I think he can be a player that can run

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00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: and catch the ball have one of those twelve hundred

774
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: maybe yard combined seasons in time. Leonard's gonna be the

775
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: guy this year, but Rashad White is gonna be a

776
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: nice addition. I think whether where they're trying to run

777
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: the ball better is if you look at those losses

778
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: to the Rams now it's three losses in a row

779
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: dating back to the play the Rams twice last year

780
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: in the regular season and of course the playoffs, and

781
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: then the Saints. They've lost seven straight regular season games

782
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to the Saints. If you take away that playoff win

783
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: in the last quarterback to beat the Saints was Ryan Fitzpatrick,

784
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: and the season no better in the Bucks have struggled

785
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: running the ball against the Saints and against the Rams.

786
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: Both those teams have pretty good pass rushes and and

787
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: they've got good players stickn cover receivers in the secondary.

788
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: So I think what Todd Bowles wants is he wants

789
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball when they want

790
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: or need to run the ball. And if you have

791
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more balanced in those games against the

792
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Rams and Saints and guess what, they're on the schedule

793
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: again this year, then I think you're not subjecting Tom

794
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: Brady in that offensive line to as many sacks and hits,

795
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: and you stand a little bit better chance to win

796
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: the game with the more balanced offense. So I think

797
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be passed first against other teams, but against

798
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: the heavyweight contenders in the NFC, I think they want

799
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: to be able to be a little bit more balanced.

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00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: And speaking of the offensive line obviously, I mean if

801
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: there's some weird vibes around the team. I mean we

802
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: saw when the line was banged up at the end

803
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: of last year. Tom Brady was not looking like Tom

804
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: Brady and some of those moments, and it was definitely

805
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: a compromised attack and he was extremely frustrated. Aaron Stinny

806
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: goes down. Ryan Jensen's out of the mix. I mean,

807
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: you're already at the point where you're testing your depth.

808
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: This is all or nothing for the Bucks. It's like

809
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: this season and then we go into an ABYSS after

810
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: this season. So I mean, are they they've got ten

811
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: they got ten million in cash space, they've got a

812
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: full compliment of draft picks for next next April. Would

813
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: they are they looking to maybe make a move. There's J. C.

814
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: Treader sitting out there, there's other guys. Or is it

815
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: We're just gonna stick with our dudes and hope this

816
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: thing works. Like you said, you know, fingers crossed. I

817
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna probably get a veteran guard, maybe

818
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: a guy that can play guardians center, because right now

819
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: Nick Leverett is is in the mix for that starting

820
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: left guard job along with Louke Getticky, who got the

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00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: start Saturday night in his first start in the NFL

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00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans. He's making the transition from right

823
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: tackle to left guard. So that's the right to the

824
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: left tackle, the guard. That's that's already two hurdles. Then

825
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: you have Central Michigan, which is the MAC two to

826
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. That that's a big leap too. And you

827
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: look at Tristan Works, you say, okay, we started him

828
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: as as a rookie, but Tristan Works is just a freak.

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00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a first round pick to begin with.

830
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: Plus he's played at so many big games in Iowa,

831
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, power five school, so they like what they

832
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: have there. But I think the loss of Stinny is

833
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: going to force this team to go out and get

834
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: a veteran to throw in that mix too and compete

835
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: at the left guard spot. Um. They expect Tristan Works

836
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: to be back from his strange oblique. He missed the

837
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: game on Saturday night, but they're hopeful he returns by

838
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. He's an opener, but you know it

839
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: is it is a little alarming what's happening along the

840
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: offensive line right now. And if listen, you mentioned that

841
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven years covering this team, the Bucks have won

842
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. They've been to two. The only times

843
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: they've been and won those games is when they were

844
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: extremely healthy, and that usually goes. It's usually part for

845
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: the course rate for Super Bowl winners. But the Buccaneers

846
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: only had one starter on injur reserve in two thousand two.

847
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: That was nose tackle Booger McFarland. They only had one

848
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: starter on injur reserve in that was right guard Alex Kappa.

849
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Stinny was the player that filled in for Kappa

850
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: in the postseason and the Super Bowl. So right now

851
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: they're already missing Ryan Jensen. He's the Pro Bowl center.

852
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: And the guy that you didn't mention was Pro Bowl

853
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: left guard Ali Marpet, who suddenly retired at age twenty

854
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: nine this year. So it's it does seem a little

855
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: shaky up front right now for the Buccaneers offensive line.

856
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: That might be why they wanted to lean on the

857
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: running ge a little bit more, and so Brady is

858
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: not subjected to dropping back times a game and getting hit.

859
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: And we just share a look over here when he

860
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: said worse might be a little up in the air

861
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: for Week one, you're looking at their That's a tough

862
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: schedule for the Bucks. We talked about this on the

863
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: show a couple of weeks ago, coming out of the gate,

864
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: when you factor in that Brady missed a portion of

865
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: training camp and the offensive line is dealing with injury

866
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: and missing guys, and and then you've put in the schedule.

867
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: That's where I started to get nervous about this team.

868
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how they come out of the

869
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: gate and what they're looking like when the calendar turns

870
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: over to say October, Scott, you don't know this but

871
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Dan has been predicting Tom Brady's demise for eight straight seasons,

872
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: and he's it's gonna happen. He's ready for it to happen.

873
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: The gradual decline is that's that's a deep over simplication

874
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: from Greg. I don't think Brady is going to be

875
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: the problem, but I'm speaking more to what's around him.

876
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: Right it's got there. I do I do wonder what

877
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: kind of like in his heart of hearts with Jason

878
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: Light and the owners up and different people in this

879
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: organization sometimes because they experienced what the post Brady era

880
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: was like for a little bit. I guess they were

881
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: trying to get him back probably the whole time. Uh,

882
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: because it's because it's weird. Tom Brady is a free

883
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: agent after this season. We talked about earlier the report

884
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: or the comment from Dana White that he was trying

885
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: to get to the Raiders. Uh, John Gruden to you know,

886
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: put him, put him up in the ring of honor

887
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: again in Tampa. You got you're another super Bowl, Like

888
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: he tried to get to the Dolphins two different times.

889
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, is there like a little bit of

890
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: like this this really might be our last year with

891
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: Brady here because whether he leaves to play football again

892
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: or what like, it's it's a lot. I want you,

893
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Scott to be the guy asking the hard questions. If

894
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: this thing goes south, just take it to Brady. Okay,

895
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: I'll do that. I'll stay this though. If you look

896
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: at the state of the NFC South and and things

897
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: can can change quickly, right I mean, nobody saw this

898
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: since that he Bengals going to the Super Bowl last year.

899
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: But things can change. So we'll see how the rest

900
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: of the South develops and comes around. But right now,

901
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I still like the Buccaneers, especially with with the what

902
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: they have going on defense and Todd Bowls being a

903
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: defensive mindy head coach. If they can figure out the

904
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: Saints in the regular season and at least split with them,

905
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: I think that that the post Brady era can still

906
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: be a fruitful one for the Buccaneers. Is not gonna

907
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: be good. It's not gonna be I shouldn't say it's

908
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: not gonna be good. It's not gonna be great, but

909
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: it can be good, meaning that I still think that

910
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: there's a path to the playoffs for the Buccaneers even

911
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: after Brady, because they've got enough weapons on on offense

912
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: to plug a quarterback in as long as you don't

913
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: get a guy that's a turnover machine like Jamis Winston was,

914
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: because that was the real difference in you had a

915
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: quarterback through thirty three touchdowns and thirty interceptions, including an

916
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: NFL record seven pick six is and you go seven

917
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: and nine, the team is pretty much the same. The

918
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: next year Tom Brady and then you flip out the

919
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks eleven and five win a Super Bowl. So if

920
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: they can find a quarterback who's not a turnover machine,

921
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: they can be kind of a caretaker another Brad Johnson,

922
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: if you will, got a guy that can come in.

923
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: And I think this Todd Bowles defense is going to

924
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: continue to be very good. You can win the South,

925
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: and if you win the South to get the automatic

926
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: pipeline to the playoffs, and then who knows anything can

927
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: happen in the playoffs. That it's all about, you know,

928
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: the double H is right, how hot you are and

929
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: how healthy you are in January, and I think that

930
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: there's there's a pathway to the playoffs for the Buccaneers

931
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: after Brady has gone, just because the NFC South is

932
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: not what it used to be. And we'll see how

933
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: the Saints fair with Jamis Winston or whatever quarterback they

934
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: choose in the years to come. But I think the

935
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: Buccaneers can be good and and still rule the roost

936
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: in the NFC South for a couple of years after Brady.

937
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Check out Scott reynolds latest article on puter report dot com.

938
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: It's a Buck's Monday mailback. I love writing mailbags. Weil

939
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: bags are fun. Check out check out Scott's haven't done

940
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: one in like two years. But and also Scott, but

941
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: you always say goodbye to you real quick answers. First

942
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: thing that comes to your mind was Brady on the

943
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: masket singer? Okay? And is Gronk on this team by Thanksgiving?

944
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: By Thanksgiving? I'd say by the playoffs? How about that?

945
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: Think he comes back. I think he comes back and

946
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: maybe December, maybe not by Thanksgiving, but but um, you know,

947
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: because he's gotta eat, right, he's gotta get gonna get

948
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: the whole mortgage board for Thanksgiving. I don't think he

949
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: wants to be o the running wind sprints and trying

950
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: to get in football shape until after he has Thanksgivings.

951
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: That's my answer. I like that by like two thousand

952
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: thirty seven will be like grog, he'll commit to playing

953
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl specifically right with Tom Brady quarterbacks

954
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: of course. All right, thank you very much, Scott. Right,

955
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the flash Point. I mean, I feel

956
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: like we're ahead of the story now, Mark, as we

957
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: always are with the Flashpoint series. I've always believed in

958
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: the series. Um, you know, we we birthed at the

959
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: concept of it at the Combine, which was a rich

960
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: time him to come up with new ideas, and uh

961
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, oh, you guys are gonna talk

962
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield and the Browns like dead weight. And

963
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: then like like literally within a forty eight hour cycle

964
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: after we did Flashpoint, all chaos and in hell breaks

965
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: loose in Cleveland. So same thing happen with Matt Ryan,

966
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: right or was it Carson Wentz Carson Wentz for two.

967
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: But but you've set such a high standard here we

968
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: have I should say, well, maybe not the royal way.

969
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just saying something big has to happen if

970
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: they just are like thirteen and four and have a

971
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: normal tell you and what the audience understands by now

972
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: because they trust the instincts of Mark and I, uh something,

973
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: this will be a jumping off point to something else

974
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: where people everyone's gonna be talking Tampa, who suggested the

975
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Bucks as a potential flashpoint team, So what were you thinking?

976
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: The answer to that question me, I don't remember. I

977
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: thought I threw out the Bucks in the Ravens as

978
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: two possibilities I did. I don't checking throughout those two texts,

979
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know here is um No. I think

980
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to backdoor your way into this segment. Is

981
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: a part of your brain child, but sometimes you just

982
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: gotta I think take the L a little bit, you know.

983
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's there's more integrity around just taking

984
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: the L on something like this. There's no L to

985
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: be taken. I think it was a wonderful conversation and

986
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm with them. They still are like the favorites. I mean,

987
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it's weird and it could go crazy, but

988
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: their defense is loaded, their offense is loaded. I think

989
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: they probably have the best roster in the NFL right now.

990
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: And right there. We did team slogans a couple of

991
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Like another one that pops in my head

992
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: with the Bucks, like it's gonna be tricky. It just

993
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: feel like it. I think it's fingers crossed. Is there

994
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: a sexy storyline or topic out there we can taple

995
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: tackle with a deeper dive and a guess my answer?

996
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Bum you bit Bucks left another o L for the

997
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: year and Brady returns period Steelers question marks I throughout

998
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: two teams, and then you said Bucks are interesting to

999
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: me to say you muddled the waters with the Steelers.

1000
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: So zeuser had a coming and at yeah, why know

1001
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: yet you like to pick it? You know that's enough,

1002
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: You've taken it too far. Um, all right, that's it,

1003
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: so um we'll be back yes with And I was

1004
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: I was pulling your like a little bit there mark

1005
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Extravaganza. I could tell just by looking at

1006
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: you you are excited and pumped for the annual A

1007
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: ten Fantasy Extravaganza. Why would I miss the forty incarnation

1008
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: of it? I mean that the guest list is um spicy?

1009
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Are we sharing the guest list? Are we gonna gonna

1010
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: hold you want to wait? I mean I tease that

1011
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: other thing. I mean you're a tease master. So let's

1012
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: just say what stay where we are with that tease

1013
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: and I'll see you on Wednesday. There's those eyes between

1014
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: you two and and and Greg. I think you you

1015
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: can honestly now again acknowledge Flashpoint Series not going away

1016
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: and has just a lot of juice. It's a lot

1017
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: of juice. I think the main reason why it's back

1018
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: is that this manufactured narrative that I'm not in favor

1019
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: of it, So there's really no way out of this.

1020
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Greg's a jerk. Greg's a jerk. Greg's a jerk. Greg

1021
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: is a jerk. Greg's a jerk. Greg's a jerk. Greg's

1022
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: a jerk. Can you send that to me please? That

1023
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: was nine different women. By the way, Uh, good stuff,

1024
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: we have fun. I love you, Greg, You're fine, You're

1025
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: You're a good sport. That is a nice callback, by

1026
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the way. Um, all right till Wednesday to the Fantasy Extravaganza.

1027
00:53:52,600 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: Who forty eight already? Greg? Now heat the call.