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Speaker 2: You work for NASA.

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Speaker 3: You work for NASA at an organization that's devoted for space.

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Speaker 3: Some people debate if we ever actually got to the moon.

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Speaker 3: The conspiracy theorist out there, But even if we did

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Speaker 3: get to the moon, what really had Like why was

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Speaker 3: the purpose of going to the moon You really think

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Speaker 3: about it, Right, we went to the moon sixty years ago.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: It was a race against the Russians, and we put

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Speaker 3: the American flag on the moon, very typical of America.

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Speaker 2: But when you really think about it, what's the point.

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Speaker 4: But I'm like those same people love their satellite TV

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Speaker 4: in their GPS.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's the point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Space for the benefit of Earth is really

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Speaker 4: the theme, and it's the theme of you know, Blue Origin,

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Speaker 4: And what happens is there's all this amazing research that's.

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Speaker 5: Done in space.

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Speaker 4: Your memory from Mattress Mattress space, there's all the stuff

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Speaker 4: that comes out of that, but people don't know that

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Speaker 4: it came from space, and so they don't associate space.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm giving you the platform, the educated people,

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Speaker 3: including myself, on the benefits of spending trillions of dollars

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Speaker 3: over the last fifty years of going to space, Like

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Speaker 3: this is your open platform to educate the world on

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Speaker 3: the benefits of American tax dollars being spent to go

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Speaker 4: So one of the things that I really enjoyed about

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Speaker 4: much research is done in order to help humans fight

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Speaker 4: diseases and infections that wouldn't be possible without space. And

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Speaker 4: so one thing that happens is if something is launched

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Speaker 4: into space, it tends to mutate and it's called virulent

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Speaker 4: and so you see researchers working with pharmaceutical companies to

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Speaker 4: introduce new antibiotics and new treatments that if you can

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Speaker 4: kill it in space, you can kill it on earth.

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Speaker 4: And so that directly relates to our ability to just

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Speaker 5: And I'm not talking about vaccines.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about basic things that allow us to be

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Speaker 4: able to better protect people. In addition to that technology,

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Speaker 4: right when we look at the artificial heart valve, there

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Speaker 4: are so many things that are small that benefit people

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Speaker 4: day to day. And then beyond that, you know, climate

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Speaker 4: and the world, like the world is becoming ever smaller place,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of what we know about climate change

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Speaker 4: came from studies from space and the impact on that

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Speaker 4: that is far reaching. And so you know, when people

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Speaker 4: ask me about space, I'm just like, it's not.

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Speaker 5: So much about the moon. And all the dollars that

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Speaker 5: are spent. The dollars that are spent are actually spent

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Speaker 5: in the hopes of spending less dollars.

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Speaker 4: Right, if you build something the first time, it's typically

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Speaker 4: more expensive, but if you.

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Speaker 5: Repeat it, it becomes cheaper. That's why you get these large

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Speaker 4: But the ability to be able to say people in

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Speaker 5: That's really what we're after.

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Speaker 1: When we look at space, there's a lot, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on up there, especially when when you think

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Speaker 1: about technology. You talked about satellites. We we you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been following starlink and all that, but also the

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Speaker 1: debris us up there is an issue.

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Speaker 4: That's a job, that's a startup. So this gave somebody

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Speaker 4: a billion dollar idea, right.

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Speaker 1: There they have Well you want to elaborate on that

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Speaker 1: because that that's something that that's a real issue.

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Speaker 5: That's definitely an issue.

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Speaker 4: But this is why I love it because it sounds

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Speaker 4: super sci fi, right, like why don't you create a

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Speaker 4: space trash company? Go right ahead, But there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of debris in space. And I mean, once again, space

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Speaker 4: is a large place, but there's no shortage of jobs, startups, read.

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Speaker 5: Opportunity for people to pursue in space.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to add, is there is there

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Speaker 1: like a race to Mars? Is that is that what

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Speaker 1: we're headed with this? Like I'm looking at well, like humans,

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Speaker 1: we haven't been tomorrow? Rovers well humans I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: is that a right?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm looking at humans.

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Speaker 3: Have humans been tomorrows that you can say.

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Speaker 1: So from a standpoint of like we're watching the wealthiest

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Speaker 1: people in the world mhm explores space expiration, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Elon or Jeff Bezos, Like we say, is that the

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Speaker 1: race is that what is headed?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't necessarily say that that was where it was headed.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think, like when I look over I

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Speaker 4: don't know, the last thirty years, what's amazing is this

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Speaker 4: contribute to something that used to only be the domain

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Speaker 5: And I feel like that's the takeaway.

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Speaker 4: And when we throw out Besos and Branson and Elon,

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Speaker 4: why can't we have the black version or the Hispanic version? Right, Like,

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Speaker 4: why not somebody else who is not like them? Because

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Speaker 4: a lot of their money came from entrepreneurship and startups

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Speaker 4: and they decided to go and pursue space because that.

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Speaker 5: Was the passion.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's sort of like we have this model,

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Speaker 4: like Basos, Branson, bo.

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Speaker 2: Sis's right in line, what do you say to the

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Speaker 2: flat earthers you.

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Speaker 5: Like satellite TV?

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Speaker 4: Right? I think that's it.

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Speaker 5: That's my that's my whole response.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, don't come for me on Twitter, don't come

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Speaker 4: for me in the DMS. Like, there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of things that people rely on every day that requires

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Speaker 4: there to be a rotation of that thing. If you

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Speaker 4: think that your satellite just goes left to right and

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Speaker 4: left to right again, I can't help you.

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Speaker 2: That's a good answer. So are people in Australia that

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Speaker 2: when you say, I'm like, are people in Australia standing

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Speaker 2: upside down?

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Speaker 4: Always standing right side up?

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Speaker 2: We'll always gravity.

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Speaker 1: Of rotation, the axis of the Earth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so the Southern hemisphere if we're standing right side

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Speaker 3: out the world, the northern hemisphere, but they're.

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Speaker 5: Right set up for where they are.

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Speaker 1: The gravity allows.

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Speaker 2: Us a legitimate question.

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Speaker 3: Look, I read a lot of these conspiracy through the situations,

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Speaker 3: so so you know.

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Speaker 4: What's funny about conspiracy is like sometimes conspiracy is a

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Speaker 4: name for like a whistleblower, right, and like you're really

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Speaker 4: getting the drop, But then sometimes.

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Speaker 5: It's just weird news.

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Speaker 2: What about aliens?

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Speaker 5: That's an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to answer that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll just look at it from a probabilistic standpoint, right,

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Speaker 4: because who's to say that we're not the aliens.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are aliens. If there's all the life for them,

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Speaker 2: the aliens to them.

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Speaker 4: So this is why I need people to get involved

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Speaker 4: in the stem fields, like you too could be responding

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Speaker 4: questions like this at work on.

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Speaker 5: The class, on your job.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that the aliens?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 4: When I first logged into chat GPT, my very first

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Speaker 4: query was returned to me all of the most reputable

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Speaker 4: sightings of UFOs in history.

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Speaker 6: Do it.

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Speaker 5: It's a great search. There's a lot of really good stuff.

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Speaker 4: And the reason for that is I'm committed that I

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Speaker 4: don't know what I don't know. And from a math perspective,

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Speaker 4: if you've ever seen the sun the sunset in Africa,

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Speaker 4: many stars out there, it's hard to believe that there

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Speaker 4: isn't something else.

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Speaker 5: Now, what is that else?

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Speaker 4: Is that else a dog on another planet?

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Speaker 5: Is it a plant? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't organisms, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but I think that we should inspire people

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Speaker 4: to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Like I belong in the camp of let's figure it out.

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Speaker 2: So there's a high probability that the other life forms

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Speaker 2: outside of Earth.

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Speaker 4: There's a Drake equation, and the Drake equation says that

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Speaker 4: that probability he is one. Therefore, it is most likely possible.

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Speaker 2: Did Drake equations the Drake like the rapper Drake.

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Speaker 5: He can take credit for that. But it's not that Drake. No,

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Speaker 5: it's literally yeah, No, it's just his.

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Speaker 2: Name, scientist, yes, Drake Yes.

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