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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, better than that. So we missed you yesterday.

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Speaker 1: of your weekend. Okay. Well, uh we did a lot

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Speaker 1: I think people can associate with that if they have kids,

424
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: especially right now. Oh yeah, no, So what's what's the

425
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: set up there? Like you have? Is it been hard? Easy?

426
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Do you have since you already kind of work from

427
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: home in a way, does you have a rhythm with it?

428
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: Like to explain people how? I guess the the general

429
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: what I've asked everybody on this daily show is it's like,

430
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: how do you approach this mentally? And then what's like

431
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: the daily set up over there? It's kind of weird

432
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: because I was kind of that guy. Um even you know,

433
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: after like the first cases of China like took off

434
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: and they started exploding over there and then started spreading.

435
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: I remember I was We're in the airport. It was

436
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: March five, I believe, or Mark yah, March five. We

437
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: were headed to Oregon. Could do our and still head

438
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: trip and this is really when it started to like

439
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 1: catch people's eyes. And my little brother, who is our

440
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: camera guy, was with me at the airport and it's

441
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: all on all every single you know, uh TV and

442
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: the airport, and I was kind of like the knas here.

443
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh gosh, this is just another one of

444
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: those things to get people talking about this and not

445
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 1: paying attention to that, and you know, this is just

446
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: a big scam. And he was kind of into He's like, man,

447
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: look at these numbers. And he was kept trying to

448
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: show me numbers. Anyway, So we on the trip and

449
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: get back and then that's when things really got serious.

450
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: And I was still kind of the guy that's like,

451
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, we live in a pretty small town. There's

452
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: no a little side note. I don't know if you're

453
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: paying attention this, Like there was like three or four

454
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: states left that hadn't had any um known cases of

455
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Don't know which ones those wered, well, I

456
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: know Montana was was down the list pretty far. Yeah,

457
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: it was like Idaho, Montana, I think North Dakota, and

458
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: then West Virginia and you guys, you guys fell before

459
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: we did. Yeah, this second to last I think it

460
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: went Montana and then North Dakota and then Idaho and

461
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: then West Virginia, so you know, we have in some

462
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: pretty great places. I know, my parents just retired and

463
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: moved to West Virginia, so feeling pretty good. But yeah,

464
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's funny how that goes when you're

465
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: living in a place where it's not as prevalent, but

466
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: still you have to take kind of the same actions

467
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: as as as if you have it, and as if

468
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: you live in a town where a lot of people

469
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: have it. So it's hard to know. Man, well, and

470
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of like how my wife has been the

471
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: stickler about this whole thing, and uh, luckily she has

472
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: because you know, and I agree, Like I've been trying

473
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: to tell my kids this has been the hardest part.

474
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: It's trying to explain to them you have three weeks

475
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: off of school, but that doesn't mean that it's like

476
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: three weeks of you know, spring break. There's a reason

477
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: that you're not going to school because they want to

478
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: have friends over, they want to go do this, they

479
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: want to go do that. So that's been like the

480
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: hardest part for us. It's just to be like, listen,

481
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I know, you just want to play with the neighbor kids.

482
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: And that's only one kid. But you know, how many

483
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: people has he come in contact with over the last week.

484
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: How many people have you come in contact with over

485
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: the last week. So we're running a pretty tight ship

486
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: for now. Um. I think I've been to the grocery

487
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: store twice in the last uh eight days, and that's

488
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: about as much as I've been exposed to people. I

489
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: do go on a daily drive. I have to get

490
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: my truck every once in a while and just go

491
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: on a drive. Um. But yeah, it's just basically wake up.

492
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of schools have had online courses and

493
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: stuff going on, which, for whatever reason, the school district

494
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: here in Hoketel hasn't had those set up yet. So

495
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: the kids really have no initiative every day. So we're

496
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: trying to like create some sort of environment where they

497
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: can like wake up and still have some some sort

498
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: of a schedule um. And that schedule usually ends up

499
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: to them going and jumping on the trampoline in the

500
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: backyard for the first few hours of the day yep,

501
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: yep ye, and then it's like, well, if we're gonna

502
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: be home, you know, Dad's like let's clean the garage out.

503
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: But it's been nice because we got all these little

504
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: chores done I wanted to get done, and now we're

505
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: kind of out of chores, so I don't know what's

506
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna go, what's gonna proceed from here. Yeah, that's still

507
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: my wife. You know, we have different age kids, it's obviously,

508
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: and it's just there's different challenges that come with that.

509
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: But I just told her, I mean, you got you know,

510
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: I still am doing I'm doing this, you know. And I,

511
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, I was getting reading some emails

512
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: from listeners and just kind of thinking about this whole

513
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: thing and for the first time got emotional about, you know,

514
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: what it is and what what's going through. But I

515
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: think part of what this show has done for me, um,

516
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: maybe others I don't know, but you know, just in

517
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: my own experience, it's like it gives you a purpose.

518
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: Every day when you wake up, you're working on something. Yeah,

519
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: you got you have a mission, you know what you

520
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: got to get accomplished. So I just don't just told

521
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: my wife, I mean having a purpose. Making sure our

522
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: kids have a purpose, you know, giving them some structure

523
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: is h is really important at this time, and we're

524
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: not used to doing that because we're not used to

525
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: this scenario. Yeah, without a doubt, I think that, Uh,

526
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, I feel terrible for you know, me and

527
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: my wife both worked from home and we run our

528
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: businesses out of our houses. So for us, it's not

529
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: a big issue that the kids don't have a place

530
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: to go. But for a lot of people that work

531
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: jobs that are still going to those jobs, you know, like, um,

532
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: what are they going to do with their kids? Was

533
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: what I kept thinking about. Like if you you know,

534
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: your mom's a nurse and your dad does whatever it

535
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: has to be at work, but you know what if

536
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: you have young kids, like sending them to a babysitters,

537
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: probably not the best call right now. Yeah, it's tough.

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah, there's a lot of real impossible scenarios

539
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: that this brings up for people. So I enjoy, like,

540
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, I know you well, and I know kind

541
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: of how you handle your life and and all the

542
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: other people we've had on thus far. You know, it's

543
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: just a different perspective. But it just seems like people

544
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: that run in our circles are kind of in the

545
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: hunting world for better for for you know, lack of

546
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: a better description, you're kind of just a little more

547
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: better prepared. I've talked to some family members and other

548
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: folks that live in a lot of different places, um,

549
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: and it's just seems like the folks that we've had

550
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: on this show are are laser focused and prepared and

551
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: not as hypersensitive to some of the negativity. Is as

552
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: that may just be coincidence, but that's what I found. No,

553
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that there's a lot of people

554
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: out there that are um terrified, which I mean what

555
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: I what I'm trying trying to tell my kids is

556
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: like you know, when I was talking about like trying

557
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: to explain to them the reason we're not going to schools,

558
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: like maybe it's not like going to be a big

559
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: issue here in Pocatello, Idaho, um, or maybe it's not

560
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a big issue in a week for now,

561
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: but you know, wrong or right that they're they're telling

562
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: us to do these things for a reason. And if

563
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: they're wrong, like, it's not going to hurt the situation, right,

564
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: if we're social distancing ourselves from from people, it's not

565
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: going to hurt the coronavirus virus situation. And if they

566
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: are right, then good seeing that we stuck to the

567
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: plan and did it, so it didn't you know, we

568
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: we calm that curve down or whatever the phrase they're using.

569
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: But and that's just hard for a kid, because you

570
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: know what's funny is, like my wife were talking about,

571
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I think the people that are struggling with this the most,

572
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: like not really a fiding by. It is not like

573
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: necessarily our generation, like people raising kids, but it's the

574
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: older generation they just don't. Like the other day, we

575
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: were supposed to go to a little party and we

576
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: couldn't go, and they're like, well, what the matter? Your

577
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: your kids feeling sick? Are the acting sick? Are you

578
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: get Like what's I'm We're like no, Like, the way

579
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: this works is that somebody could have the virus for

580
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: up to ten to fourteen days before they even get

581
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: the symptoms. And how many people in ten days will

582
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: you come in contact with if you're not social distancing

583
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: yourself a lot. And so I think it's funny that

584
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: that older generation is like in my in my experience anyways,

585
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: it's been like yeah, yeah, you know, we can hang out,

586
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: family friends, whatever. But it's my wife, like I said,

587
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: she's the stickler of this whole thing. I was trying

588
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: to go shed hunt the other day with my boys

589
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and my neighbor and she shut us down. Yeah, I

590
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's got to be the role,

591
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: the maternal role in this one. My wife's the same way.

592
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: We went at hike in the other day, and there's

593
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: so many people in the trailhead, which I love to see. Man,

594
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: it made me happy that, you know, there were you know,

595
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: older folks, young folks, kids, adults, people working out, people

596
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: just hiking, people picnic and whatever. Um. When I got

597
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: back to my wife's like, well, how how why is

598
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the trail it's not six ft wide? I'm like, well, no,

599
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: she's like so, so every time someone walked by you

600
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: in the trail, which must have been a hundred people,

601
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: they were breaking the social distancing role. Like yeah, you're right.

602
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't think of it that way. Everybody was

603
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: happy and prancing around, you know, on at least I

604
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: was prancing on us because what I like to do

605
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: on them mountain Mont and I'm gonna pray you know that.

606
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: You know that. Yeah, we've pranced together here and there

607
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: and and so I I mean, I just felt that,

608
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: like it's nice to have the maternal point of view,

609
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: which is like, let's protect ourselves. Um, and I it's hard.

610
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: It's hard. This is a lesson than civic responsibility in

611
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Um, how do we think bigger

612
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: than ourselves? And how do we kind of, you know,

613
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: make sure we put less emphasis on our on our

614
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: own egos and our own wants and needs and try

615
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: to just think about others and almost every action we do,

616
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: if not, um, most of the actions we do on

617
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: a on a daily basis. So I don't know, man,

618
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough time. So I'm glad to hear

619
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: you guys are at least getting through. And I know,

620
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: guy people that run businesses around their homes are probably

621
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: just kind of still in that in the groove they

622
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: normally are in. Yeah. Unluckily for us, that's kind of

623
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: the group we're doing. We're both able to to uh

624
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: complete our job tasks every day and and you know,

625
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: move along with our business. But you know, there's a

626
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: lot of people out there that don't have that luxury

627
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and uh who Like I keep thinking about this, but

628
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: let me ask you, how would your life so you

629
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: how long Have you guys been in quarantine about the

630
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, I mean yeah, last you know, last

631
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Sunday I went into recorded pie. Yeah, it would have

632
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: been you know, not long a week, ten days like that,

633
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: about the same time. And so we're sitting here and

634
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: in the march, which is you know, getting into some

635
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: good spring activities if it's either bear hunting or shed hunting,

636
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: or turkey hunting or did some spring fishing. But how

637
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: would this affect you if this would have been if

638
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: this scenario happened at the first of let's say, September. Yeah, yeah,

639
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I'd like to say, like, you know,

640
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: there's there's the kind of virtue signaling response which is

641
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: like I'll go out and hunt elk and that's what

642
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. But there's a part of me that

643
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, that says that even in even in this timeframe,

644
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: but especially in September, like, I don't know that it's

645
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: responsible necessarily for a lot of reasons for me to

646
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: leave my family for long periods of time right now. Um,

647
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't know that that's that's very

648
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: that's me being accountable to them. I want to go

649
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: back hunting, like you say, September one or opening day

650
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: of Elk season. I want to go for three days

651
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: and be gone with no cell service. But that's probably

652
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: not the most responsible thing to do at this moment,

653
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, to be gone from them and got not

654
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: give them what they need. And speaking of a well,

655
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: here's the one right now. Hey, buddy, how's it going good?

656
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Casey right now. We're doing a podcast.

657
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: You want to talking to the microphone? You have talking

658
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: to the microphone? Say hey, Casey, Hi, what's up? Buddy?

659
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: How you doing? He said, what's up? How you doing? Hi?

660
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Are you're watching a little Frozen? What were you watching?

661
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: What show were you watching? Down there? Return of Jafar?

662
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: That's nice, that's like is it? Is it over? Is

663
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: that why you came up? Yeah? Okay, we'll go play

664
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: in your playroom and I will be the Laddin stuff? Right? Yeah,

665
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: that's a Laddin? Right? Did you like it? No? Rank out?

666
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 1: I see not the same? Was a Laddin in it?

667
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Was he in there? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Well did you do?

668
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Is it better than Aladdin? Or or worse than Aladdin?

669
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Worse and a Ladd? You're like Aladdin better? I'm with you,

670
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: you the classics. Oh all right, buddy, all right, we'll

671
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: go play in your playroom and daddy you'll be out

672
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: in a while. Okay, see you later. Yeah, you're right.

673
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Like I keep runing that sit scenarios through my head,

674
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, September one comes in to play, and this

675
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: is what we're asked to do. Like I would be like, alright, kiddos,

676
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: no school to worry about, no cheerly in practice that

677
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: you have to miss. We can be gone. But it's

678
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: such a scary, Like like I said, every morning I

679
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: wake up and I'm just like, all right, what's the

680
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: news today, What's happened or what's gonna happen? So to

681
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: be like gone from your family, the people that look

682
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: up to you the most, that needs you, it would

683
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: be wise to be gone, you know, even though you

684
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: were social, distancing yourself in the mountains is a probably

685
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: not the right example to set for your kids or

686
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: your wife and not be there for them. Yeah. So

687
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: that's how I think about it, you know, I think

688
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: even now you know, I'm I'm planning turkey hunts and

689
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: bear hunts that I, like I normally would have already

690
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: canceled a couple of trips I had for turkeys, but

691
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, those things don't bother me at this point.

692
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, no matter what. Luckily I

693
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: got a freezer full of meat already. You know, it's

694
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: not like I need that turkey. Um, but I know

695
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: that there I just have to adjust everything. I can't

696
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: just leave that one part of my life the same.

697
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: I can't say like, well, you know, I'll just everything

698
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: else in my life but then just go hunt the

699
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: way I would normally. So, UM, I feel like I've

700
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: got to adjust that I've got a hunt, do day

701
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: hunts instead of weekend hunts or weeklong hunts, And I've

702
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: got to restrict like my want to like drive over

703
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to South Dakota the Black Hills and shoot a turkey,

704
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: or you know, in this case, we like go to

705
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: the snow crests and try to find an elk or

706
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I just think that just that's

707
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: my personal opinion. I think if people choose to go

708
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: hunt for their own mental well being and leave some

709
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: folks behind, that could be okay too. But I just

710
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: don't know that I could do it. Yeah, we actually

711
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: had kept like making jokes with everyone. You know, like

712
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: all the sports got canceled, which I'm a pretty big

713
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: sports guy, like to watch sports, but like basketball got canceled,

714
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: the NFL looks like it's getting pushed back, hockey was canceled, baseball,

715
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: All the sports are canceled. I kept saying, Yeah, one

716
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: thing that can't cancel it hunting season. You know, well,

717
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: we had a hunt in uh South Dakota, lined up

718
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: on an Indian reservation over there, and they actually canceled

719
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: the turkey hunt this year. Yeah, which was pretty wild.

720
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Where are you going to the Rosebud? I think so

721
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: it's uh, good buddies from weather b Um. I'm sure.

722
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going in the same place that that

723
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I've gone in the past. It's uh, it's in that place,

724
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: is great? Man? You would you would have? I don't.

725
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm saying that to you. Now. Hey, you

726
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: know that hunting got canceled. You're really gonna miss out? Yeah, yeah,

727
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: the Uh I was looking forward to it. I'm a

728
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: turkey nut and I'm not very good at it. So

729
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: like they came and introduced themselves. I think it's some

730
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: guy named something Buyers, ken Buyer's, keen Buyers you know,

731
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: Ken Buyers is man. I've hunted in Kent's camp in

732
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the Rosebud before, years and years ago, probably decade ago now. Um,

733
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: but there's so many turkeys there and they're so stupid.

734
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He was showing his videos of like, oh dude,

735
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna stock in, like using these you know, fans

736
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. When it's stock in, You're gonna shoot one

737
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: with your boat at ten yards one. It's all stoked

738
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: about it and then comes crashing to a halt. Yeah,

739
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: we're working on some stuff for metator dot com right now,

740
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of about what what's this doing to the outdoor economy?

741
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: What's it doing. There's a lot of states like the

742
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: state of Maine, I think, you know, is opening is

743
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: encouraging people to use as opening their waters and encouraging

744
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: people to use them. You know. So there's a lot

745
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: of different reactions, but they had this is you know,

746
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: our society is come to a halt, and hunting and

747
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: the outdoors is just part of that. Right has to be.

748
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: So it's totally understandable and um at some point, you know,

749
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think it restricts like I you know,

750
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: from Montana, my license is all messed up. I apparently

751
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: had two different licenses registered UM license MS registered in

752
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Montana say the details. But I couldn't just go online

753
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: and apply for my tags. The deadlines April first, and

754
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I can't get ahold of anybody at the f WP

755
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: help me out. So yeah, it's like a it's a

756
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: weird you know, there's not anybody in the actual offices,

757
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: and um, you know some of the customer service lines,

758
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure it choked with people like me just trying

759
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: to get some help. So yeah, imagine it affects everything. Um,

760
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to complain about not you know,

761
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: missing a hunter to or not being able apply for tags.

762
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: I like perspective being what it is. Yeah, I've been thinking,

763
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: I mean, this is obviously it could end in a

764
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: week from now, but it's still gonna have lasting effects

765
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: through obviously our economy and in our society. And you

766
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: know how long is that gonna last? Yeah, you don't know.

767
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: I mean for you, you your businesses is I guess

768
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: we could say social media based, like that's that's where

769
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: everything lives. Um and at a big thing you said,

770
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: like your immediate families businesses kind of social media based, Um, Hey, James,

771
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: no piano, Buddy, John, don't play the piano because I'll

772
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: be able to hear it on my podcast. Okay, well

773
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: not even a not loud piano because I could probably

774
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: still hear that. So anything that doesn't that's not a

775
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: piano or a harmonica or symbols, electric guitar or electric guitar.

776
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: He's you got one of the let's play with your cars, Bud.

777
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: That's Hey, that's the Quarantine cast his sons of Bitches,

778
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: that's what That's how it goes. Deal with it. It

779
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: is co parenting while podcasting. It's one of my few skills.

780
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, like your your business of his runoff social

781
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: media and social media seems it seemed to have a

782
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: boom right now. Um for obvious reasons. Yeah, Like if

783
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: you look at um, the history of like when YouTube

784
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: really took off, it was in that you know, timeframe

785
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: of the the economic you know, the what would you

786
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: call it back in two thousand seven, two thousand and

787
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: eight little hiccup we had. It was more than the

788
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: recession great recession of two thousand and seven two thousand eight,

789
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: And at the time I wasn't personally doing YouTube I

790
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: was working at steel mill in northern Utah. And uh,

791
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: but actually my older brother had been doing dabbling in

792
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: YouTube a little bit for a year or two, and

793
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: then when two thousand seven and two thousand eight hit,

794
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: like it really you know, kind of this, I kind

795
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: of feel the same now as I did then. But

796
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: back then it was like I was out of work.

797
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Like we we went from work in sixty hours a

798
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: week to work and maybe twenty at half pay, and

799
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: so we were quarantined, but not because of some illness,

800
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: but we were quarantined because I was terrified that, you know,

801
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: I was going to lose my house and I didn't

802
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: have money to go, you know, entertain ourselves. So and

803
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt that and that's really when

804
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: YouTube like exploded onto the scene, and you know, obviously

805
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: because people with Internet could consume entertainment for free. And

806
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my brother about that and he's like, man,

807
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: we're like YouTubers are like one of the last people

808
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: that are not you know, getting our wages. Cup We're

809
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: actually doing better right now. Yeah, it's weird. I know,

810
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much you want to

811
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: talk about her one time, but I mean that your

812
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: your brother was as a famous YouTuber for a long time, right, Yeah,

813
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: he was one of the first. Um, I think he

814
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: was like one of the first people that I was

815
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: able to do it for a full time living and

816
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: uh this is yeah, like back in two thousand seven,

817
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: two eight is when really his channel took off and

818
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: uh he made it was I think it was the

819
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: he turned twenty nine, so that would have been. Yeah,

820
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: I've been just over twelve eleven years ago, and uh,

821
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: he decided he had been doing it for a few

822
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: years and he said, he turned twenty nine, he said,

823
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something cool for the last year before

824
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: he turned thirty, you know. And so he did what

825
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: back then a like a daily vlog. He was like

826
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: one of the first blog just videologged his daily life

827
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: with his wife and his kids at the time, and

828
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: it crushed and he became super big on YouTube and

829
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: all social media and and uh yeah he did really well. Yeah,

830
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: but that kind of started, you know, I'm sure introduced

831
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: you to that possibility. Like in Earnest Oh, without a doubt,

832
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Like back then, I was, like I said, I was

833
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: working at the steel mill, and I was I was

834
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: happy with our life. We were doing well. My wife

835
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: cut hair for a living and uh, and then he

836
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: started talking about YouTube. And it's funny because growing up

837
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: I was never the guy, like, never wanted to be

838
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: in front of the camera. Like we have videotapes of

839
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: my brother from like Christmas when we were you know,

840
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: he's two years older me. So I was like eight

841
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: and he was probably ten, and we had one of

842
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: those big vhs um recorders, you know, and he's filming

843
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: Christmas morning and and then he turns the camera on

844
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: himself and he was like videotaping himself and like kind

845
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: of like you know, telling everybody what was going on,

846
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: narrating the day. And you can hear my mom in

847
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: the background, like you better not be video taping yourself. Shake.

848
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of a joke, like he started

849
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: vlogging back then in the day. But I was never

850
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: that guy. I'd never like, I used to be a

851
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: semi pro snowboarder, and so my experience of filming was

852
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: I would go film on that same VHS, go film

853
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: me and my buddies doing a bunch of tricks, and

854
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: then we'd have to go home with two different Um,

855
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: what are those things called tape recorders or uh DCRs.

856
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: What are those things called? What are those things called DCRs?

857
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: How long has it been since you talked about a DCR? Anyway,

858
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: So you would have two VCRs and you'd hit start

859
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: on one and record on the other, and that's how

860
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: you'd cut your videos and then you'd send them off

861
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the companies to hopefully sponsor you. But that was like

862
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: as much videoing of myself as I wanted to do.

863
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: But at the same time, back then, when my brothers

864
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: started talking to me about this, I had looked into

865
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: like I wanted hunting TV show and it was hard

866
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: to research how you got one. But I finally came

867
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: to the conclusion I didn't have the money for a

868
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: TV slot and I didn't have any sponsors that believed

869
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: in something I I've never done before. But he was like, uh,

870
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: you could do a hunting show on on YouTube. I'm like, yeah,

871
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: but that's no hunters are watching YouTube, and if they are,

872
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: they're not watching for hunting content. They're just watching, you know,

873
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: funny cat videos. But he instilled it in me early,

874
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: like one day, that it can make that transition, like

875
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: people will start obtaining their entertainment through you know, an

876
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: online platform like YouTube more so than a TV. And

877
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but that's gonna take years. Anyway,

878
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: he convinced me that I needed to start doing it,

879
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: and so I started with a family blog, which because

880
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: my wife really wanted to do YouTube. She wanted to

881
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: do a heritorial channel, mom's channel kind of thing, and

882
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: uh so we started doing it and I kind of

883
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. You know, you get some positive feedback and

884
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know. My brother actually posted my

885
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: very first video on on YouTube, on my personal, my

886
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: family account, like he told me that he grat he

887
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: gave me his cameras like blocking yourself, you know, And

888
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: so I just blogged talking running my mouth about who

889
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: knows what. And then he uploaded the video to my

890
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: channel one night without me knowing, and the next day

891
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: called me. He's like, dude, go look at your YouTube channel.

892
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: So I went there and I had like followers that

893
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: were subscribers, and I started reading through the I'm like,

894
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: why did you up upload that? You know, like a

895
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: little unsure, and then I started reading the comments of like, yeah,

896
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: this guy's right, you know, I ain't. I am kind

897
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: of funny, like I can make people laugh. You know, yes,

898
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: this random guys right, hilarious. I knew this that this

899
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: guy's head, I knew it was funny. It's from commas Ohio,

900
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: he says, I'm funny. Anyway, that's kind of how it

901
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: all started. So then we started doing the Family Family Channel,

902
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: and then like that next fall. This was like in

903
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: July I started and I think two thousands eight or nine,

904
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: and then that fall we actually had moved to l A.

905
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: It's funny talking about being bought out by Disney because

906
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: my brother and some other YouTuber started a production company

907
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: l A called Maker Studios back then, and uh, they

908
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: had pitched the idea to my wife that they wanted

909
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: to do a mom's channel. So it was gonna be

910
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: like my brother's wife, Collette, my wife Kaylee, my sister Carly,

911
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: and then a couple of other ladies. We're gonna have

912
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: this mom dedicated channel YouTube or Google at the time

913
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: Google I bought YouTube at that point, had thrown money

914
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: at these guys and said, hey, start this mom shoe.

915
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: This is the content we want on YouTube. So they

916
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: pitched the idea of Kaylea doing this thing. Anyway, long

917
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: story short, we moved to l A, did family stuff,

918
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: she did her channel, she did the mom stuff, and

919
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: then I started hush. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I

920
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: started hush when I lived in Los Angeles. But um,

921
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: so we did that for years and it went well.

922
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: And then actually their company, Maker Studios did get bought

923
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: out by Disney, so it is a possibility it could happen.

924
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I know a lot of Disney exacts

925
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: are listening into this, guys, probably right on here, there's

926
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: at least two there's at least two people in Montana.

927
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: I think I'm funny. So that's all you need. Man,

928
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm right where you were back then. All you need

929
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: a little confidence. Yeah, but it's interesting. You and I

930
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: have talked before about like there's no retirement plan for

931
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: what you guys do it Hushing You, Brian and Eric, um,

932
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: you know it is really there will be eventually because

933
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: it's not going to go away. It's only gonna get bigger.

934
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Um what things like Hushing do online. So I mean,

935
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: there certainly is a version of this where you guys

936
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: are trailblazers. Well I appreciate that. I I mean, I

937
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: don't I always say like I hate the phrase, um,

938
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, I hear people say this not about us necessarily,

939
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: just like self made. And I don't really believe anybody's

940
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: ever self made, because there's always somebody there that either

941
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, helped them along the way or inspired him

942
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: to try something or open their eyes to a new,

943
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, way of of doing things. And that's for

944
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: sure what it was for me. Obviously was my older brother,

945
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: and he was inspired by somebody beforehand. And so trailed

946
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: is there just a big word? Um? I think we're

947
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: just the first people to start doing it, and then

948
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people to do it now, and

949
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: they do it probably better than us. But I always

950
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: said like so, once I accepted the fact that it

951
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: could one day possibly make that transition from you know,

952
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: your normal cable network to what people watching were obtaining

953
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: entertainment from online stuff. When I finally bought into that,

954
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: I just told myself, well, if I start now before

955
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: really there's a lot of other people doing this, or

956
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: a lot of people watching this. Um, if I just

957
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: keep at it and work hard, if that ever does

958
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: make the switch, we'll be the ones that have like

959
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: been doing it, you know, and we'll have the bigger library,

960
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: which always helps on YouTube and and stuff like that.

961
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: And then it finally did start making the switch, and

962
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people out there that

963
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: made the switch with it that are crushed. And like

964
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: I always talked about Randy Nuberg, right, he was a

965
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: cent in on TV and he had a great following.

966
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: And we've met with Randy a few times because I

967
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: I used to always tell people like I don't just

968
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: consider anybody trying to do this as a competitor. I

969
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: think the more people that do this on this blot form,

970
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: that better it is for everybody, because it will just

971
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: bring more of those eyeballs to what everyone's trying to do.

972
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: And so we would share, you know, there was no

973
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: never any secrets, just things that we did that worked

974
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: or didn't work. And so we met with her any

975
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: a few times were like, man, we think you can

976
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: make the switch, and and he would always already been

977
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: thinking about we were the ones that convinced him. We

978
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I guess we just kind of showed him that we

979
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: could do it, and then he made the switch, and

980
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: he's crushing. Now. I'm saying with you, saying with Steve

981
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: and media and all you guys right, yeah, yeah, I

982
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: mean as you goes to show you like when you know,

983
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: same as you I. When I was coming up, it

984
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: was hunting TV. That was kind of hunting TV and

985
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: hunting magazines. Um, and so there was a box around,

986
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the outlets that were there for you,

987
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: the creativity that you could could you know, pursue within

988
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: the hunting space. I mean there was just kind of

989
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: a limited the version of what it meant to be

990
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: impactful or influential, which I is a is a tainted

991
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: word at this point, but um, there was you know,

992
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you were you were looking at like are you Jim Shocky,

993
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: are you Tom Miranda? Are you one you know one

994
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: of the famous many famous outdoor writers that have come along, Um,

995
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: you know, and there was a different way to get there,

996
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: and it was almost always you had to you know,

997
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: you had to be the best hunter. You had to

998
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: have been around for a long time. You know. There's

999
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of aspects that kind of got you got

1000
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: you to that. If we're talking you know, mid nineties,

1001
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: late Ian late nineties, and then you know it's the

1002
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: wild wad West. Now anybody can get anybody can turn

1003
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: it on and get get it. I guess I don't

1004
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: want to say famous, but you know, have people following

1005
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: what they do and have an impact on the conversation.

1006
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody can and we've seen that time and

1007
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: time over. I mean the hunting public. Um. You know,

1008
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: you guys were the first. I remember when Brian came

1009
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: up to me at a trade show booth and just

1010
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: that just like ran me down, like I just and there. Yeah,

1011
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: the one of the more aggressive pitches I've ever received

1012
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: and one of the best at the same time. What's

1013
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: what's up, Bud? Thanks? Are you playing Spider Man? Legos? Okay,

1014
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: all right, I'll see you a little bit. Thanks, Brian

1015
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: is uh. There's a reason that we brought Bryan on

1016
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: years ago, and it's because he's really good at what

1017
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, yeah, And I just remember hearing it

1018
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: like I. You know, you want to be I was

1019
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: in the business marketing at the time, and even in marketing,

1020
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: you want to be forward thinking. You want to be

1021
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: able to see something before anyone else does. That's kind

1022
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: of part of the skill set. And and you gotta

1023
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: find somebody like Brian that can make you see that,

1024
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: even if you're inclined maybe not to and so that's

1025
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: that's another another thing that happens. But yeah, I mean,

1026
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: anybody can you've seen this, anybody can step out and

1027
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: have I remember when you know, when the born and

1028
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: raised outdoors guys were first kind of kicking that off

1029
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: and doing what they did, and you think, well, this

1030
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: is totally different to do it. How many days in

1031
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: a row do they do? Was like or something like that,

1032
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: and it's and you know, I've seen veteran hunting industry

1033
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: folks meet in the media space especially look at that

1034
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: and just scratch their heads, like who would watch that?

1035
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: Why would anyone watch that? And I laugh at them.

1036
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know if we should ask

1037
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: all the people watching it, maybe maybe you'll find something

1038
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: out you don't already know. Yeah, go ask the seventy

1039
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: people that watched those fifty fifty five days straight, you know,

1040
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: like who watches fifty five days straight of anything? Right,

1041
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: And there's some bravery and just doing something no one

1042
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: else has done and c NF it works. I mean

1043
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: that could have totally flopped um for many reasons, but

1044
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: it didn't. And it took some took some guts to do. Well,

1045
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: that's what's crazy about all this is uh. I was

1046
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: always that guy like grown up, like why why do

1047
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: celebrities and like sports stars always have a bigger voice

1048
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: than everybody else, right, like whether their opinions matters so much?

1049
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: And I have always said, like, man, it'd be cool

1050
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: if everyone had a voice. And I think that's kind

1051
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: of what social media has done, Like, you know, anybody

1052
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: can go out and make meaningful, purposeful content now that

1053
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: people will like. And I think that's hard for old

1054
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: industry people. And I was. I listened to part of

1055
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: this podcast a few weeks ago or months ago. I'm

1056
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: not gonna say which one, but it's a guy that's

1057
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: historically like always you know, talking about instant famous all this,

1058
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, trying to tear it down or whatever he

1059
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: might be doing. But he was like, well, like why

1060
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: do these YouTubers think that you know, they've done anything

1061
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: in this industry? Like if you had a TV show,

1062
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: it means like you worked your way up to get

1063
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: to a point where you could, you know, sell this

1064
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: ad space to sponsors and then you you know, and

1065
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: and then have a TV show because of it. And

1066
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: it's like what, like what are these YouTube like what

1067
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: grind have they put in, Well, I get that to

1068
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: a point, but I also get that, you know, YouTube

1069
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: is a full time job. It's I've put more work

1070
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: into this than I have any other job in my

1071
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: whole entire life. Obviously you have to. But also it's like, well,

1072
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are sitting in sid saying, like

1073
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: all these TV you guys have like finally made it

1074
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: to this point, but like none of them like we're

1075
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: forward thinking enough to be like, Okay, let's what's the

1076
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: next thing? You know? Yeah, you always we're gonna have

1077
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: to be virtual reality soon, you're gonna have to have

1078
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: virtual reality hunts with Casey and Eric um. If ever,

1079
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: have you ever been forward thinking talk about this all

1080
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: the time, like what's the next thing? You know? Like

1081
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: we do like a you know what years ago we

1082
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: started this, like we called it a semi live hunt,

1083
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: which you've done one with us in Colorado. But it

1084
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: was like basically the idea was, let's make it feel

1085
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: like people are there with us, so like let's upload

1086
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: this content as quickly as possible, and so we would

1087
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: go and film like the first day. We'd always do

1088
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: it on in our Colorado like Mule Deer Hunt so

1089
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: you go and film one day, get back to wherever

1090
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: we were staying that night, edit the footage, upload the

1091
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: footage for the next day. So like people were a

1092
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: day behind, but they still felt like they were there

1093
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: with us. And so like we've of like developed that

1094
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: into how we run our seasons now. Like two years

1095
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: ago we did kind of the same thing the Born

1096
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: and Rays crew did with Land of the Free where

1097
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: they filmed five different states in fifty days hunting out,

1098
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: but we just made it for the whole season. So

1099
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: last year, um, well two thousand eight teen, and I

1100
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: think we had like eight videos that ran consecutively once

1101
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: we started uploading them, and then last year was we

1102
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of did the same thing, was videos, but like

1103
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: what's the next thing, Like we've done that for two years,

1104
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Like what's the next thing? I think we've always said this,

1105
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: and it's no secret. I think a lot of people

1106
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: have tried it or want to try it, but like

1107
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: a completely live hunt where you know, there's technology to

1108
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: do that now with a certain cameras if you have

1109
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, the WiFi or whatever, if you're in service,

1110
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: but you could go out film a hunt live. Yeah,

1111
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna get there. I remember my first job in

1112
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: the industry as working at the enter Ray for American

1113
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Hunter magazine. I was like their first digital higher as

1114
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: a digital editor. And back then, I mean, this is

1115
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, I want to say ten, maybe something

1116
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: like that. Um, I was blogged doing like live hunt

1117
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: blogs and thinking about, hey, you know, nobody ever read

1118
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: any of them. You could probably google and find these

1119
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: things if you want to read them now. But I

1120
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: was thinking about that then, you know. I think that's

1121
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: just a natural inclination of of that kind of experience

1122
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: that I want as a consumer of digital media. UM.

1123
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, hilariously connected to what's

1124
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: going on right now. I think if if people could

1125
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: follow you or any you know, anyone entertaining go hunt

1126
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: right now for five days and be able to sit

1127
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: home while quarantine and watch that and know that it's

1128
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: happening in the moment and that there's it's relevant to

1129
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: the time, I think that would be huge, you know.

1130
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: And so I think it all connects. It would do

1131
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: so so well right now. But I wish we could, Sorry, guys,

1132
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: we wish we could. And we're just hearing our robes

1133
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: podcasting about it, talking about doing it. But that's that's

1134
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: part of hopefully what we can all learn from this time.

1135
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of what is it that we value um

1136
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: outside of our normal daily lives and what really can

1137
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: drive us that, you know that happens in our small spaces,

1138
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: relatively small spaces, in our homes and with our families.

1139
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: And so I tried. I was telling my wife the

1140
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: other day, I was like, hey, listen, you know, there's

1141
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot of unknown about this, and I think this

1142
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: goes to like your business life and mind too, Like

1143
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknown and you can either fill

1144
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: that unknown with positivity or negativity, because no matter either way,

1145
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: you can convince yourself of one of those two outcomes

1146
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: regardless of of what it is. Especially with the coronavirus.

1147
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: You can look at some of the date and say like,

1148
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: we're all gonna of the country is gonna get it.

1149
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: We're all you know, this is gonna be a disaster

1150
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: for this country and bring it to a grinding hold.

1151
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: Or hey, we got to slow the curve and if

1152
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: we do all we can now, we can slow it

1153
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: and we'll be out of this by June. You know,

1154
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: you can look at it either way and you can

1155
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: only do that because there's so much confusion and lack

1156
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: which just factual information that streams um and I think that,

1157
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, you could take that to the rest of

1158
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 1: your life, you know, in your business life. You gotta

1159
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it that way too. No, I agree,

1160
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: like you said, man, there's just so much out there

1161
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: that's like it's been this way for so long. With

1162
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: social media is like I've said before, everyone has voice,

1163
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: so everyone can put their opinions online and you just

1164
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: have to be careful what you read because some of

1165
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: it's just completely nonsense and there might be some factual

1166
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: stuff in there and you gotta dig for it. But yeah,

1167
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: I almost feel like in today's society that there's a

1168
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of people that like, no, I'm not gonna say

1169
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: they like the coronavirus, but they like the idea of chaos, right,

1170
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: like you know, and who knows what's going to happen

1171
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: with this, Like we were talking earlier, we're just playing

1172
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: it by your saying, they're recommending us do this. If

1173
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: it's right or wrong, it will only be good if

1174
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: we do what they recommend. By social distancing and trying

1175
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: to slow that curve down but at the same time,

1176
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that just they thrive off

1177
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: off chaos and and you know ds that they read.

1178
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: And the other day someone was telling me, They're like, yeah, there,

1179
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: I have a friend's daughter. I have a friend and

1180
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 1: his daughters in uh Ohio or something and they've shut

1181
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: the city down, which they are going to do that

1182
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I think as a tonight or something. But uh, this

1183
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: was a weekly on there and the person was telling

1184
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: me that their daughter told them that they were driving

1185
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: tanks down the road to keep people in their houses.

1186
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if that's sure or not,

1187
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: but let's just go to like basics. Why would the

1188
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: army it was the army driving. Why would the army

1189
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: drive tanks down the road? They have trucks, right, that

1190
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: was really going on. Why wouldn't they just drive a

1191
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: rubber wheel truck down the road and not a still

1192
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: tracked tank. Yeah, no, it's it's it's the time where

1193
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta choose there again, like the civic responsibility,

1194
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: how to you communicate with others? And well and what

1195
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: are you communicating? Um, it goes it just goes back

1196
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: to you know, there's a famous line and democracy is

1197
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: not simply a license to indulge individual whims and proclivities.

1198
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's at this point you have to

1199
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: hold yourself accountable and for everything you say. And do

1200
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: you know who who knows where that tank rumors started?

1201
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: But your kid got it. You know it started somewhere,

1202
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: and it was because somebody was being irresponsible with what

1203
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: they said. Yeah, it's hard, you know, I don't want

1204
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not wanting to tell people what to say or

1205
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: what they're not not to say. Do you do whatever

1206
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: you want, but um, you gotta be responsible for for

1207
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: thinking forward to what this might mean, and especially in

1208
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: a time like this. And and part of me says, like,

1209
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: let's not talk about it, let's just tell hunting stories

1210
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: and we'll do that. We've done that a lot, will

1211
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: continue to do that, and you and I have some

1212
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: good ones, but um, you gotta kind of talk it

1213
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: out and talk it through and see how you can

1214
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: get get through. And you know, one thing that I

1215
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: was I want to talk to you about. I've been

1216
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: all and I knew all about David Goggins. You know

1217
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: about David Goggins. I, like everybody at this point knows

1218
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: David Goggins, like I knew about him, but I never

1219
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: followed him or or And I started follow him recently

1220
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: because I wanna take up a fitness challenge during this quarantine,

1221
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: and so I thought, well, who better to start with

1222
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: than David Goggins. And I realized David Goggins is an animal.

1223
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Like David Goggins, There's just a thing he posted earlier.

1224
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: He's just lifting a tree around, like carrying a giant

1225
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: tree around for no apparent reason other than to prove

1226
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: that he's strong and everybody else's weak and to motivate you.

1227
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's unreal. And you know, I don't follow

1228
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: him very closely, but I've seen him on you know,

1229
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Cam Haines has put him on a lot of his stuff,

1230
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: and I've read some stuff about him, and but yeah,

1231
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: the guy is complete b A, Oh my god. Yeah.

1232
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: I just pulled up a thing where he said motivation

1233
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: is a motivation comes and goes. When you're driven, whatever

1234
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: is in front of you will get destroyed. It's the mindset. Yeah. Yeah,

1235
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, so that's if you that's where I started

1236
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: my fitness journey. But I mean you've done stuff like

1237
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: the Mountain Ops, what ninety day challenge and things. I mean,

1238
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: you you recently lost a bunch of weight and gotten

1239
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: better shape, Like, can you give people a little bit

1240
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: of that story? Yeah, I mean I'm actually to a

1241
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: point right now, this this whole quarantine thing has not

1242
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: been great on my diet. But um, yeah, I was

1243
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: two years ago about this exact same time. We got

1244
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: home from our Steelhead trip in uh March of two

1245
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: eight and uh, I called Eric. If you guys don't

1246
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: know Eric Chester, he's a partner in Hush, and uh

1247
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: he's very motivating to me because he's always in very

1248
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: good shape. He spends a lot of time at the gym.

1249
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: And the reason he does is because the guy I

1250
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: absolutely crushes on the hill, Like he's out shed hunting

1251
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: right now and he's probably putting in, you know, fifteen

1252
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: eighteen mints a day picking up sheds. But I all

1253
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: the air cup and I said, um, you know, I

1254
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: just got back from the Stillhead trip, and I was

1255
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, Okay, I'm not

1256
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: a super happy person right now. What's going on? And uh,

1257
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: I realized it was due to my poor health my weight.

1258
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: I was probably fifty pounds overweight, and you know, I

1259
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: hate to say I'm a hunter for a living, but

1260
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: I make my living by spending a lot of times

1261
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: outdoors hiking and hunting and all that fun stuff. And

1262
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: and I looked at myself. I'm like, you're supposed to

1263
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: be like the person that you know. You're making purposal

1264
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: content for people inspired to like get themselves out, and

1265
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: you're trying to do that, like fifty pounds overweight. It's

1266
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe time to change some things. So I called air Cup.

1267
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, bro, like, let's do one of these

1268
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: ninety day challenges. Anyway, long story short, he was all in,

1269
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: and so we promoted it through Mounta Knobs, who makes

1270
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: great pop products. So for ninety days, Um, I went

1271
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: on a diet. I started out with the diet. So

1272
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: I tell my wife the other anytime I've ever been

1273
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: on like successfully like get to a program or a

1274
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: routine of living a better lifestyle, healthy lifestyle, it always

1275
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: starts with my diet. And so if I can diet

1276
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: for like four or five days and start feeling good,

1277
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: and then that's when I really like starting with the exercise.

1278
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: So I started dieting for the first couple of weeks

1279
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: and take them out and ops products and just you know,

1280
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: living by kind of like Eric and made me up

1281
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: like a meal plan of what I should be eating,

1282
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,479
Speaker 1: should be eating and how much and when and started

1283
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: started doing that and started feeling great, you know. And

1284
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: then I started running on the treadmill and then running outside,

1285
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, ninety days went by and I completely felt

1286
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: like a new person. I felt inspired, I felt like

1287
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: I had energy, I felt um creative again. Because of

1288
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: all things, I kind of felt like I lost for

1289
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: a little while, just because I was unhappy with, you know,

1290
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: who I allowed myself to become. And also, you know,

1291
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: being overweight, you kind of start to feel those things.

1292
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: And after ninety days, I lost like forty seven pounds

1293
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: and felled them aze. It's I tell people this all

1294
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: the time, and I get like, there's a lot of

1295
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: people out there don't like to see dudes at the

1296
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: gym their shirts off, and I was that guy. Like

1297
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: for a long time, I was like with this garbage.

1298
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: And I still't like overly watch that content or you know,

1299
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: enjoy it, but I can appreciate it because the reason

1300
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: I never liked it, And I feel like this is

1301
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: the same way for maybe some other people that they

1302
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: don't enjoy that or it makes them mad, is that

1303
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: they're feeling, um, a little unsecure themselves. And that was

1304
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: definitely me right. I was looking at all these people

1305
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: that were living very healthy lifestyles, being happy, promoting you know,

1306
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: healthier decisions, and it just make me mad because I

1307
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't making those same decisions. So I tell

1308
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: people all the time, like, when you eat healthy and

1309
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: get out and just move your body and breathe, it's

1310
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: a drug. It's addicting, Like you feel better, and feeling

1311
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: better is you know, something that everyone wants to fill.

1312
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: And so like, yeah, we went through the ninety days,

1313
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: and you know we also had like promoting this with

1314
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: our the people that watched us and our you know

1315
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: people follow us on social media. And what was cool

1316
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: about it was cool that that I did it. You know,

1317
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: I got through ninety days. I felt better. My wife

1318
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: jumped on board, Um, she did the same. She crushed it.

1319
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: But then talking to other people that jumped on board

1320
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: with us, and we're following us, like I've heard some

1321
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: life changing stories, um from people that jumped on board,

1322
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: either at that time or after they saw what we did. Um,

1323
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: and it's super It was just more inspiring to me

1324
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: to see that, you know, other people were actually watching it.

1325
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: And that goes back to like, you know, and maybe

1326
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: we haven't earned our stripes to me, you know, have

1327
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: a TV show or whatever. But at the same time

1328
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: we're making I hope anyways that we're making purposeful content

1329
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: to inspire other people to get out and either you know,

1330
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: change their lifestyle or go hunting again. Maybe never hunted,

1331
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: or they got away from it, you know, with their dad,

1332
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: they what, they quit doing it, and now they're getting

1333
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: back into it. So maybe we have earned our stripes

1334
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: to have a TV show in some people's eyes, But

1335
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I just want to make

1336
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: meaningful content for people to be inspired by. Yeah, like

1337
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: you said, there's a democracy out there that really really

1338
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: rewards that kind of thinking, rewards that kind of Hey,

1339
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to choose what you know, I always think

1340
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: about choose your narrative, Like what of all the things?

1341
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: Social media is an arcade game. You put things out

1342
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: there to get points, and the more points you get,

1343
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: the more standing you get. And if you're the number

1344
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: one point getter, then then you have the most entertaining

1345
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: content to the most amount of people. Well that that

1346
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: definitely can change the way you speak and what you do,

1347
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: as you well know, and I know if I post

1348
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: a picture of a steak or a big buck, it's

1349
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: going to get more likes than if I post a

1350
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: picture of me and my kid fishing. Um. But I

1351
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: choose the kind of choose my narrative. I choose what

1352
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: I want to say and what I want to do,

1353
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: and I choose it to be positive, and I do

1354
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: my best with it. It's not perfect, but it's it's

1355
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: my the thing I want to say. And what's the

1356
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: best success, the success your own way, um, rather than

1357
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: just falling in line with an algorithm and following lockstep

1358
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: with what the algorithm says is going to get you

1359
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: the more most arcade points. So it's that's part of it.

1360
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not I don't watch people working

1361
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: out online. When I see it, I just kind of

1362
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: skip over it. But I appreciate, like you said, I

1363
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: appreciate that that's the narrative they choose to they choose

1364
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: to put out there because no one would watch a

1365
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: guy sitting on the couch eating chips. Wait, less people

1366
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: would watch that. Maybe we start that. We got robes

1367
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: already just filmed the hot hot pocket tutorial. Watch it

1368
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: me and my robes. Maybe that's how we can start.

1369
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: I'd be down. I might want I might actually watch that.

1370
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: I take it back, but no, but like there's not

1371
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: There isn't a dearth of popular hot pocket eating robe

1372
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: guys out there. Maybe there might be after this conversation,

1373
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: but there is there isn't because it's not as like,

1374
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: it's not as powerful of a narrative as somebody who

1375
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: wants to work out and feel good. Man. I mean,

1376
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: it just isn't and and it might be annoying if

1377
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: it gets overdone. But I'd rather that be the case

1378
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: then that somebody choosing to shoot their chows their own

1379
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: narrative of hate or you know, disillusion or you know,

1380
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: disaffecting other people. That's way worse in my opinion. Well yeah,

1381
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: I tell my wife this all the time. Like we

1382
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: had a family vlog channel for years and then you know,

1383
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: when Hushing really got up and going, I decided, like

1384
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: I was done with the family vlog channel. I just

1385
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: want to do concentrate on Hush, you know, full time,

1386
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: cause that's what I was most passionate about. And uh,

1387
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: but like even now I watch you know, YouTube videos,

1388
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: and I see people vlogging and they're like just you know,

1389
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: millions of followers and millions of views and they're doing

1390
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: really well. But it's just like I tell my wife,

1391
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: if we were ever like in the place that we

1392
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: were broke and we needed money quick, like, I think

1393
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: I could create a vlog channel that would do really well,

1394
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: but it would just be garbage because some for whatever reason.

1395
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of how like there used to be this

1396
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: vlogging like community on YouTube, you know, and there's still is.

1397
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: There's still people doing amazing stuff, filming their lives, you know,

1398
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: growing up with their kids, doing going on vacations, showing

1399
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: the world, you know. And the reason I think vlogging

1400
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: became popular, um was because it showed a happy family,

1401
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, there's a lot of kids out in their

1402
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: world that don't have a happy family, right, they come

1403
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: from broken homes and you know, whatever the case might be.

1404
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: I think the reason why my brother's channel took up

1405
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: and did well, and so many other family blog channels

1406
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: did so well as because it's just showed positivity in

1407
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: an a light of family can be happy together. And

1408
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of people out there doing that,

1409
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people are just making garbage

1410
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: and doing really well. Yeah, that's it. I mean, you

1411
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: can follow a certain playbook, you could look a certain way,

1412
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: you could post a certain thing and follow a certain playbook.

1413
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: And if you have a few, you know, in a

1414
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: label qualities going for it. If you're super handsome, if

1415
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: your family is really handsome, if you guys have a van,

1416
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: if you go camping a lot, if you do the

1417
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: right kind of selfies and and post them at the

1418
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: right times, and like that all works and become something

1419
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: uh valuable to a lot of people. But it also

1420
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: is kind of stuck in its own it's it's in

1421
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: its own way, um in terms of what it could be. Well, yeah,

1422
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: it's just you know, for me, my passion is you know,

1423
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: we keep saying, I keep saying, it's like hopefully we

1424
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: live by three Like we call them pillars at Hush. Right,

1425
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: So after I initially started Hush because I wanted to

1426
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: show people my hunting adventures and I wanted to have

1427
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: fun hunting and being able to capture that and show it.

1428
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: And then once it became a business and Eric and

1429
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: I brought Eric and Brian on I started really thinking

1430
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: about like why do we do this, Like what just

1431
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: the purpose of it? You know every business they say

1432
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: you should have a y and so one night I

1433
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: just like with thinking about what was the most important

1434
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: thing to me, Eric and Brian and we all agreed,

1435
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: like we so we live by these three pillars. We

1436
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: you know, we're hopefully inspiring people. We call it new

1437
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: hunter and fisher fisherman acquisitions, like getting people involved in

1438
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: the outdoors again. And if that can come from so

1439
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: many different places, you know, people that never hunted, that

1440
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: have somehow stumbled across our content, started watching got inspired

1441
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to do that. Or if it's somebody that

1442
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: hunted when they were young, gave up hunting for whatever reason,

1443
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: you know, their dad passed away, their uncle that used

1444
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: to take them it's no longer there, gets gets excited

1445
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: about it and gets out there again. I think that's

1446
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: important for you know, the community or for the hunting

1447
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: industries to get more people involved in that also always

1448
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: starts with the kids, right, So it's new hunter of

1449
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: fisherman accosition. It's the first pillar. And then conservation and

1450
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: land access um is the second pillar. And then just

1451
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: do you be back if it's a locally to a

1452
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: group or two an individual that might need some help.

1453
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: Those are the three things that we always tried to do.

1454
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: And because I say like, if we're doing those three things, like,

1455
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: if we're you know, hitting those three points, will always

1456
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: be successful because that's our why, that's why we are

1457
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: doing this right right, and so you know the family

1458
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: blog channel, I'm passionate about my family and my kids

1459
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: hanging out, but there was no why behind. It was

1460
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: just a way to make some money really, and it

1461
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: was to get me out of the steel mill and

1462
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: allowed me to be with my family more. But then

1463
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: when Hush came along, like then I was really that

1464
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: that was like what I gravitated towards because I could

1465
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: see like how it could help so many other people

1466
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: because it's helped you know, hunting and fishing. It's helped

1467
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: me so much in my life. I always say, you know,

1468
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: we grew up this pretty religious family, and it would

1469
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: always be that thing like, well, you shouldn't be out

1470
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: hunting on on Sunday, you should be at church. And

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: I would always be like, man, I feel closer to

1472
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: God in the mountains than I do when I'm at church.

1473
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: The old thing, you know, would you rather be at

1474
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: church thing and about the hunting or would you rather

1475
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: be in the mountains thing thing about God? And that

1476
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: was kind of my my thing now. But you know,

1477
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: Hush has really been something that like we can really

1478
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: pour passion into because we are so passionate about those

1479
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: three things. Yeah, I mean you can you know, when

1480
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: you're able to say, like to have the control over

1481
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: your life to say, well, I'm passionate about this thing.

1482
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like put all my energy into that thing.

1483
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: And because it is my passion. There's a lot of

1484
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,480
Speaker 1: people that don't get that opportunity, that don't get to say.

1485
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: I wish it for everyone. I wish what you just

1486
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: articulated there for everyone to say, I am passionate about this,

1487
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: I want to pursue it. I'm gonna build pillars around

1488
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna pursue it and how I'm going to

1489
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: act within it, because that's important. Like I wish I

1490
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: wish everybody could have what you just said in regards

1491
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: of like how hard it is for how hard you

1492
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: guys work, because I know you work your asses off

1493
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: and how many nights where you're just I'm not sure

1494
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: if it's right or not. If you're not sure why, um,

1495
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: you know there's hateful ship on the internet or all

1496
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: those things. Like what you have there is we're fighting

1497
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: for in a lot of ways, and and everybody that's

1498
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: listening to this should think about how could I get

1499
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: to exactly what you just articulated. Yeah, I hope, I

1500
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: hope the same for so many. I hope the same

1501
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: for everybody, and I really do. And it's really changed

1502
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: my training of thought. I was always the guy that

1503
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: grew up, you know, just knowing that I was going

1504
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: to hopefully get a good job and work hard at it,

1505
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, you'd have you had to

1506
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: have a nine to five job, and that's just how

1507
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: life was. And then really it was funny like when

1508
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: my brother started doing it. I hate to a minute,

1509
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: but like I was at the steel mill and I

1510
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: was doing well, it's it's it's a it's a great job.

1511
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: It's just really tough work with you know, you're working

1512
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week. You're rotating shifts, so one week

1513
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: you're four days in a earl. You're working you know,

1514
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: six in the morning until six at night, and then

1515
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: you have four days off and then the next four

1516
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: days you come in. You're working six at night util

1517
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: six in the morning, so it's tough on your body.

1518
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: But um, that was just what I knew. That's what

1519
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: I grew up like believing in. And then my brother

1520
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: owned it grantit business at the time when he started

1521
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: doing YouTube, and uh, he had a young family and

1522
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: a wife and two kids at the time and started

1523
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: dabbling with YouTube. And he when he started doing YouTube,

1524
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: he didn't even know you can make money out, so

1525
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: he just started uploading videos, fun videos that he he

1526
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: liked to make, and and then after like six or

1527
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: seven months, he got to check in the mail, and uh,

1528
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how he explained it, but it

1529
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: was basically, you know, first check I got from YouTube

1530
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: was enough to pay like our water bill, and then

1531
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: the next check was enough to pay all of our utilities,

1532
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: and then the check after that like was to pay

1533
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: the car payment or whatever it was. So he just

1534
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is doing well. And then at

1535
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: one point it it overtook his wage he was making

1536
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: from the granite business, and so he was like, well,

1537
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: screw it. I'm gonna quit doing grantics. I'm not passionate

1538
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: about that. I'm passionate about making funny videos with my

1539
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: kids and me. I remember my mom was just like, share,

1540
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: you've got to have a job. You can't quit your job.

1541
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: You built this business. You can't do that, Like, you can't.

1542
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: And then he was gonna talking about moving to l

1543
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: A to start this production company with his YouTube buddies.

1544
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking like, dude, Shay, like bro, like

1545
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: we're adults or dads, we have kids, Like you gotta

1546
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: be responsible. This isn't very responsible thinking, you know. Remember

1547
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: having this discussion with him, and uh, He's like, well,

1548
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: what if it doesn't work, Like I can always come

1549
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: back and get another job. I can always start this

1550
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: thing again. Like I'm gonna give it a chance because

1551
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: I enjoy doing it anyway. So like, through all this

1552
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: whole process, that's really shown me that like all those

1553
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: things we grew up with, like knowing that you you

1554
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: have to go to school. And I'm not saying going

1555
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: to college isn't important, but like you have to go

1556
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: to school, and you have to get a good job,

1557
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: and you have to just do these things because that's

1558
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: just how it is. That's just how your dad did

1559
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: it and how your grandpa did and that's just how

1560
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: it is. Well nowadays, like I'm trying to tell my

1561
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: kids opposite, like all these cliches in life, this is

1562
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: what this comes from My brother's shad because he instill

1563
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: these in me and he's always talked about these. But

1564
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: like all the cliches in life, where all the secrets

1565
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: in life are hidden behind cliches, right, Like same with YouTube.

1566
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: YouTube is no different than any other job. Like you

1567
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: have to work hard at it. You have to like

1568
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: give it. You're all. You can't ever give up. People

1569
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: start channels all the time and like what what's the secret?

1570
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: Like what like don't give up. It's just like anything

1571
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: else in life. Like if you're gonna be successful, you're

1572
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to work really hard to never give up.

1573
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: And you've heard those phrases all your life. They're true,

1574
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: they really are. And so now we're in a uh

1575
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: we're literally been where you're in a robe, in your nursery,

1576
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: in a shop I call an office, but it's more

1577
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: of a man kid. I just that was a way

1578
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: that I could allow my wife would allow me to

1579
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: build this. It was an office, right, but we're sitting here,

1580
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: we're working when everyone else is in a little bit

1581
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: of turmoil. You know, people have been sent home from

1582
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: jobs like we're working right now. Yeah. Yeah, And I

1583
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: like said, we would wish that for everybody, you know,

1584
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: I wish that for absolutely everyone let's listening to this,

1585
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: that they can find some way to get maybe they

1586
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: don't want a YouTube channel, but maybe want some some

1587
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: other thing that gives them the freedom to choose, you know,

1588
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: their their work, what it is and what like what

1589
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: you just said is is enlightening to me from just

1590
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: a structure standpoint, Like what's how do you structure your life? Well,

1591
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: you just you live by the same principles of hard

1592
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: work and dedication. You just don't. You're not a cog

1593
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: in the wheel. You are the wheel. You know. You

1594
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: you you decide when it goes forward. You know, you

1595
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: decide when, how and how fast it can go. Um.

1596
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've had tough times with this podcast where

1597
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: I thought I've stuck my foot in my mouth or

1598
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: just went through like a month where I just didn't

1599
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: feel like I had any entertaining shows and maybe there

1600
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: wasn't anything left to talk about or maybe um, maybe

1601
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't up to the task of being engaging and

1602
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: finding ways to communicate. I've had that and then I

1603
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: just busted through those and I'm just gonna keep busting

1604
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: through them because they'll come again. Um. And I think

1605
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: this quarantine cast was just another one. Was another one

1606
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, man, what am

1607
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: I gonna do? I better start, I better just do something,

1608
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: and um keep doing it until they tell me to stop.

1609
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: And so that's what you guys are doing. That's what

1610
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're just right now. Man,

1611
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: I wish we could be out. This is a big

1612
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: reason as well. Like sometimes you get in those like

1613
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: those funks I call them. You know, we're You're not

1614
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: sure if even though you're we're doing those three things

1615
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: we talked about, those three pillars, maybe this content we're

1616
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: putting down is not like inspiring or motivational or or anything.

1617
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: But you know, we just uploaded, uh for the still

1618
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: had videos we just filmed a couple of weeks ago,

1619
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: and you know, just like what I've taken away as

1620
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: people just like hey, thanks for the content right now,

1621
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: like we really needed this, like just to sit down

1622
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: as a family and watch you guys out fishing like

1623
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: the world's in a crazy place. But like, thank you

1624
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: guys for putting out this content. And when you get

1625
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: messages like that, then, like you said, like sometimes you

1626
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: get in a rud or a funk, but usually it

1627
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: currently takes a couple of comments and you're like, yes,

1628
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: what we're doing is good, it's inspiring people like, let's

1629
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: just keep doing hand. So I wish there was a

1630
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: way we could just be out creating all the content

1631
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: in the world for people that hopefully take their minds

1632
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: off what's going on and just you know, um, you know,

1633
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: spending time with their family in front of the TV

1634
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: you watch and hopefully meaningful content to them. Um, it's

1635
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: kind of what it's all about, right Yeah, And if

1636
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: I know you guys, you'll get in the lab and

1637
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: you'll use this time to like plan a most kick

1638
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: ass fall that ever existed and come up with new

1639
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: ideas and push that stuff and figure out ways to

1640
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, to to move the needle, because that's all

1641
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: there is at this point. It's like like I said earlier,

1642
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we have this great void of unknown right now,

1643
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: and you can fill it with whatever you want. You

1644
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: can fill it with positivity and hard work or depression

1645
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 1: and bag of chips on the couch, which I do

1646
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: like chips. No, no offense to chips out there. Yeah,

1647
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: like a nice kettle chip. But yeah, I mean that's

1648
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: the You can just choose, just you choose whatever you want. No,

1649
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: I agree, you can either. You know, there's definitely two

1650
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: different ways you can approaches it. And we're all in

1651
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: a world of doom and things are gonna be terrible.

1652
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: It's gonna take out you know, an x amount of

1653
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: people and economy is gonna be suffering, which all this

1654
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: stuff might be true, but you can't either think in

1655
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: a negative way or a positive way. And I've always

1656
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: found that I do better when I try to think

1657
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: in a positive way because we can't control any of this.

1658
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: That's why I keep telling my boys when they want

1659
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 1: to go out and play, I was like, I'm sorry, guys,

1660
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: but like and they get a little upset and they

1661
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm like, guys, this is out of our control.

1662
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: This is out of mom and Dad's hands, Like, this

1663
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: is out every everyone's control. We're just doing what we're

1664
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: doing to hopefully make it better. So you can either

1665
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: be positive about the outcome or you can be negative.

1666
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: But why be negative when positive costs the same amount? Yeah? Man, um, Yeah,

1667
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of a ton of things.

1668
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: Did you like as you talk to your kids that

1669
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: you think through this, Like, let's say, because I've been

1670
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: thinking about this, you know a lot, Let's say this

1671
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: goes on for two more months. Let's say it's you know,

1672
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: now it's getting into June, it's summertime, and we've been

1673
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: in this situation for three months. It's kind of become

1674
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: the new normal. Um, what's the message then? If you

1675
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: thought about that? Man? I I've thought a lot about that,

1676
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I'm going to approach that

1677
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: because it's been seven eight days and everyone's going to

1678
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: stir crazy and cabin fever. But like we keep saying,

1679
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: we're trying to do what's right. What we've been told

1680
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: is right. Yeah, you get into months of June and

1681
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: you know going back, So are the way the school

1682
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: system is set up right now? Is? Um? This this right?

1683
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: This week? Is was there designated spring break? So they

1684
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: were going to have this week off, so they had

1685
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: last week off and then this is their spring break,

1686
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: and then I guess the board is going to meet again,

1687
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: I believe on like April second or third, to see

1688
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But what I've been hearing is that's possible.

1689
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 1: It's very possible that school year is just going to

1690
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: be over. Right, So they'll just either do online courses

1691
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: after the this third or they'll just call it, or

1692
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: they'll go back one of the three ways. But yeah,

1693
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: so if this happens for another two months and then

1694
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: we get into summertime and the kids are supposed to

1695
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: be out playing with their friends and doing these things, like,

1696
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: how do you how do you approach that? How do

1697
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: you deal with your kids being in the house for

1698
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: three or four months? Yeah, I don't know how much

1699
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: David Goggan swing a tree around in his backyard. That's

1700
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: what we should do, is we swing more trees around,

1701
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: trees around. Yeah, I don't know. I've I've gone through

1702
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of scenarios in my head. And like I said,

1703
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: like there, we were talking earlier in a meeting with

1704
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: with a bunch of our crew ever here at Meat Eater,

1705
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't know, I don't

1706
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: know what the future holes. But I certainly do know that,

1707
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: Like there's certain things that are just going to be true,

1708
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: and and one of them is that we we will

1709
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: be able to go hunt like they're not. I there's

1710
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: almost zero percent chance that's shut down completely. It'll be

1711
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: maybe restricted and a little bit different for us. We

1712
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: certainly can go and do that, um, and it will

1713
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 1: be encouraged in our society. Go outside with your family

1714
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: and do whatever it is do outside. So I know

1715
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: that will probably be um intact. And then at the

1716
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: same time, like what you know, stories, we can read stories,

1717
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: tell stories, watch stories. Like stories will be things we

1718
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: we did, and then we can go create more stories

1719
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: for other people to be entertained by. So that's what

1720
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do. Um. But boy that I

1721
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: don't know what two months for now is going to

1722
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: look like. I hope, I hope we're back to it

1723
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: and you guys are thinking about like what's the fall

1724
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna be and what tags did we draw and what

1725
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: exactly is you know, was this for how long is

1726
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: this road trip going to be? Who's gonna come on this?

1727
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: You know? Did you guys had I mean, your fall

1728
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: last year was was great. Yeah, it was. I mean

1729
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: we hunted, like I said, we had eighty five days

1730
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: in a row just hunting content, you know, between the

1731
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: three of us. So we weren't all three together on

1732
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: all those hunts, but between the three of us we yeah,

1733
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: we hunted probably six seven different states, you know, three

1734
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: or four different species, and uh had an amazing time.

1735
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: But you know, like like I said, we can't control this,

1736
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: and so whatever we're we have the option, the opportunity

1737
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: to do this fall is what we're gonna probably do,

1738
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know things might be a little different,

1739
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: but you know, out of our hands, and we just

1740
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: gotta be able to control what we can control. And so,

1741
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, I wake up every morning thinking either a

1742
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: that's going to be like okay, this is like it's

1743
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: going away slowly, We're good. Or you know, I just

1744
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: read this morning when I woke up on Twitter or

1745
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: something that this week is going to be even crazier

1746
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: than last week, which is hard to fathom. Um, but

1747
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: I wake up and going, Okay, what's gonna happen. It's

1748
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: either gonna be a like things were looking better or

1749
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: be things were looking even worse. And so yeah, so

1750
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: there's nothing nothing to do but wake up and watch

1751
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. Um So, we gotta end this

1752
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: on a positive note. Case, we gotta we gotta bring it,

1753
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: We gotta bring it up for people. Um So, what

1754
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I want to go. There's a couple of things. I've

1755
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: been watching this document it on Netflix called Tiger King.

1756
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Have you seen anything about this? What's what's her phrase? Hello?

1757
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Cool kittens and cats? Hello, cool kittens and cat? Oh my,

1758
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, man, I had binge watched it late

1759
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: last night. I'm not through it. I'm in like, uh,

1760
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm on episode four and it is the weirdest, most

1761
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: bizarre thing I can think of. I think I I

1762
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: think I blacked out. I wasn't drinking or doing any drugs.

1763
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: I think I just blacked out from just my brain

1764
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: was like, shut it down. It's too much, too much

1765
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 1: input here. Tiger King is going too hard at your brain, Carol,

1766
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: So I don't. So here's what we're gonna do, and

1767
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: maybe you can come back for this too. On Friday.

1768
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Friday Friday, we're gonna do a full podcast devoted to

1769
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Tiger King. But I want I might have to like

1770
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: just bring people in by the dozens for this because

1771
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: it's everybody that watches it just wants to talk about it.

1772
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: And I tho, I've watched all but the last episode.

1773
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but I stuff keeps happening. I feel

1774
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: like I want to watch it all again to pick

1775
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: up all the little details that are going on. And

1776
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: there's only there's one season. Reder's there more now there's

1777
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: just one season, so they have like two and a

1778
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: half more episodes to watch. Do you want to try

1779
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: to give people described to people what this is we're

1780
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: talking about. It's a documentary about honestly, it's about you

1781
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: know the phrase crazy cat Lady times ten. So it

1782
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: tells the story of three different big cat owners and

1783
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: two of them are big cat owners because they love cats,

1784
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: but they're also trying to make money off of it.

1785
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: This is my take on the whole thing. They're trying

1786
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: to monetize big cats. It makes money. And then there's

1787
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: this other lady that is that's exactly what she's trying

1788
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: to do as well, but she comes across as trying

1789
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: to save the cats. And then there's murder involved, and

1790
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: then there's like cult situations going on, and there's give

1791
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: me some of the best music homosexual and to ask

1792
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: you that is there anywhere to find his music videos? Yes,

1793
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 1: I will be I've found all of them. I've actually phoned.

1794
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I've I've got ahold of I wouldn't even go much further,

1795
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: but I've been doing a lot of digging, a lot

1796
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: of journalistic investigation. I'm I'm trying to find this guy

1797
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: who's who's by the name of Joe Exotic. I know

1798
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: where he is. He's in a prison, so I'm gonna

1799
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 1: found I think I can get I'm not gonna promise anything,

1800
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: but I know how if I were to get him,

1801
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know how it would happen. So that's

1802
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I've got. But this is the guy, Joe Exotic, who's

1803
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: kind of like if a Liberaci met I can't even

1804
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: Dog the Balty Hunter, and uh I can't. I My

1805
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: brain wants to shut off when I think. I think

1806
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: he explained himself very well. I can't remember how it went,

1807
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: but he said, I'm a gay, gun toten redneck with

1808
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: a mullet. Yeah pretty much. Yeah, if Dog the Bounty

1809
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Hunter Liberaci and Jack London had a baby, I just

1810
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, his personality, the other personality there's

1811
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a big cat rescue is a as a cat rescue

1812
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: operation run by this lady named Carol. She's an amazing character.

1813
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: If there's murder involved, there's murder for higher involved, there

1814
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: is accidental death involved, there is math, there is it is.

1815
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: It is a cacophony of just this attacks your mind,

1816
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: like you can't you can't imagine that this would happen,

1817
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: and then the next thing happens and you can't imagine

1818
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: that either. Um, it is just Tiger King is unbelievable.

1819
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I have to find if you if you google tiger King,

1820
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: you can get it. But um, you know how I

1821
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: was saying earlier in the podcast, like nothing like at

1822
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: this point, nothing can really surprise me. That might be

1823
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the first thing that has surprised me. It's called Tiger King. Yeah,

1824
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 1: it's it's called Tiger King murder and mayhem, holy crap.

1825
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible to use Joe's song here

1826
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Kitty Kitty um as the outra music to this podcast?

1827
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, and in fact it's going to happen.

1828
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Now that's just full. It is just it. Yeah, I

1829
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: can't it's hard to describe. So hopefully if you haven't

1830
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: watched it. I mentioned this on social media last night

1831
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: and my my, my Instagram dms blew up, like I

1832
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: have hundreds of people, like a lot of people watching it.

1833
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people are watching it. It's the perfect

1834
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: thing for this time. It is it is built for

1835
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: quarantine time. So it's the perfect all the things we're

1836
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: just talking about, kind of reflecting on our own lives

1837
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: and careers and our own states of mind and this

1838
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 1: and this time, this is the perfect anecdote to all

1839
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: of that stuff. You'll just you won't know what to do.

1840
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: And if you if you watch it and don't feel

1841
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: better about your own life, I don't know what to

1842
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: do with you that. Yeah, it's that out of control.

1843
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: So we're gonna Friday, uh this Tuesday. So Friday, we're

1844
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 1: gonna have a full podcast. It's gonna be a happy

1845
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: hour podcast where we are drinking uh and we are

1846
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: talking about the We're just gonna do the whole thing

1847
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: for out. Who knows how it's gonna last, probably out

1848
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: it will last for hours. So if you're listening to this,

1849
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: I mean not you don't have Netflix, first go sign

1850
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: up for it and then you go watch all the

1851
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: scenes of Meat Eater and then and then when you're done,

1852
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: watch Tiger King, or if you promise that you'll watch

1853
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Meat Eater, I'll you'll allow you to watch Tiger King

1854
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 1: first and then goat either. But it's it's just it'll

1855
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: change everything you think about the about the world, especially

1856
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: about cats um in their ownership in this great country.

1857
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, because I have so much to talk

1858
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: about with this I know, so hopefully we get you

1859
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 1: act for that. There's gonna be I I've messaged a

1860
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: few people, I said, just people I think that are

1861
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: perfectly suited to join this conversation. I said, just bring

1862
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: some bring your own, bring your own booze, and we're

1863
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna do a happy hour, and we're just gonna we're

1864
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: just gonna let it all out, let it all hang. Hang.

1865
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: So that'll be a quarantine cast for your coming up

1866
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: on Friday. On Friday, so stay stick and stay for

1867
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: that one. But that's if you're looking for an anecdote

1868
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to all the all the things like I just said

1869
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about today, the best thing to

1870
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: do is to google Tiger King, watch the trailer, and

1871
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: then go you got about It's I think it's seven

1872
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: six or seven episodes at forty five minutes each. Um,

1873
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, here we are. This is what you

1874
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: need to do. Spend that time. You have three days

1875
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: from now to go and watch all those episodes before

1876
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: we just let it all out on Friday. Yeah, and

1877
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: if you're at home quarantined, like, it's one of those

1878
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: document and there's been a few that I've come across

1879
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: that I had to like, I couldn't stop watching the

1880
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: last one, the last one. The last one with that

1881
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: that was this good was Firefest, the Firefest documentaries. This

1882
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: one kind of has that flavor. So normally here at

1883
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: THC we talk about books we have, we're gonna launch

1884
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: a book club soon, and pretty much every guest has

1885
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 1: a book here nowadays. But in the days of the

1886
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Quarantine cast, it's Netflix, baby, and I'm I'm very proud

1887
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: of it. I agree. So all right, man, Um, well

1888
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: be well, I guess i'd say stay safe, but you're

1889
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: gonna be fine where you are. And um, whenever we

1890
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: break out of this, we should plan some stuff for

1891
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: this fall. I agree. I think just at one last

1892
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: little thing for me, I think an important thing for

1893
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: everybody at this point, is, and we kind of talked

1894
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: about this the other night when we were texting back

1895
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: and forth. Is don't use this situation as a time

1896
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: to be upset or depressed about whatever is out of

1897
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: your hands, but just enjoy the things that you have.

1898
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: And that's what I've kind of noticed is just like

1899
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: I have abew a full family. I have four beautiful,

1900
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: healthy kids, and I have a very sporting wife, and

1901
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 1: I have the ability to stay home and just enjoy

1902
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,919
Speaker 1: their company for however much more time, we're gonna be quarantined,

1903
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: and I would suggest that for everyone. Yeah. No, we

1904
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: were texting about you know, texting about this, and you

1905
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: know we're both saying the exact same thing. You know,

1906
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with my kids, I'm cooking, I'm feeling lucky.

1907
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: I feel lucky, um to be where I am. And

1908
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I understand there's so many people out there that don't

1909
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: feel lucky, that feel um stepped on and feel lost

1910
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: because of this, and uh, you know, I feel you know,

1911
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: part of me feels that. But you know, I gotta

1912
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: look around and know that I'm lucky, and hopefully I

1913
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: can impart some of that to other people at this time.

1914
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it, man. I appreciate you coming on

1915
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: and kind of talking through some of the you know,

1916
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: telling your own story, because I've always thoughts since I've

1917
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: known you that your story from steel mill to doing

1918
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing today is is just miraculous and and

1919
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: you've always put yourself out there is like a good dude,

1920
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: like one of Like when I remember when we first

1921
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: when we're hunting together for the first time, I'm like,

1922
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: this is my people right here. This is like if

1923
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 1: I was going to pick a crew, I would pick

1924
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: with this guy. Um. Well, I appreciate that. Ben. I

1925
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: feel the same towards you. It's always just been you know,

1926
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: since day one of of hunting and was it Colorado,

1927
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: it was just like you felt like my buddy. Yeah,

1928
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: just buddies, man, And so there's certain you know, but

1929
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: in your story beyond that is something that as as

1930
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: you guys always have said and have you said, like

1931
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 1: you just normal guys that are passionate about hunting, and um,

1932
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: look what you did. So thank you. Yeah, proud of

1933
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: you for doing that, and thanks for coming on and

1934
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: letting people know about Well. I appreciate you having me on, Ben.

1935
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: It was fun all right, brother. So yeah, man, let's

1936
01:36:45,560 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: talk soon. That's it. That is all. I'm still in

1937
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: my robe and it is four eleven pm. Philip. Okay,

1938
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, um if you've cracked

1939
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: open a beverage yet. I have not, but I am

1940
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: sweating in my under regions. I would just like to

1941
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: ask that if you do, I mean, I'm sure you will,

1942
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: but if you do decide to um do a little

1943
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: drinking tonight, that you keep the robe on. Oh yeah, no,

1944
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm I mean it's like I said, it's four eleven.

1945
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: I've had it on since I woke up. I'm not

1946
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: I can't go put regular clothes on now. Uh, there's

1947
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: no way. So I might just go sit in the

1948
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: backyard drink white claw on my robe. I mean that

1949
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: sounds incredible, it really. I mean I don't I don't

1950
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: want to say that everybody should wear a robe, but

1951
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: if you're not wearing a robe, we're not friends anymore.

1952
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm now a robe guy. I'm gonna have to get

1953
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: different carpet. I'll probably have to trade my truck in

1954
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 1: for some sort of like uh wagon of some sort

1955
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: um station wagon. I gotta change a lot of things.

1956
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna stick with this robe that's comfortable, like

1957
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: a bear out of hibernation. That's that. Yeah, that sounds

1958
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: that sounds great. We're gonna get some th HC branded robes.

1959
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's a great idea. I don't know if

1960
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 1: the business people at media would go for it, but

1961
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: it's certainly worth pitching. So please write in the th

1962
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 1: HC meter dot com and then tell us how much

1963
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: you'd want to robe if we came out with him,

1964
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: because I probably would. They would probably have like gold lettering,

1965
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 1: as Casey Butler was saying, he has a robe with

1966
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: like gold and stitched lettering. We probably have to do that.

1967
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: At the very least. I'm gonna get you one, Phil Well,

1968
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: that'd be that'd be fantastic. Thank you. I'll drink a

1969
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: white claw in the backyard. I mean, it's so it's

1970
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: so hot in my nursery studio that I had to

1971
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: open the window. It's just the heat in here from

1972
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: so much podcasting and in in a hot robe. Um legs,

1973
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: legs spread as wide as they can. I mean, just

1974
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: airing it out, airing it out, that's how that's how

1975
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: it's We're not number seven the quarantine cast. It's only

1976
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: gonna go downhill or uphill from here, depending on how

1977
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: you look at it. So just hang on with us

1978
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: you need. You're gonna stay with us, Phil, Please please

1979
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: stay with me. I'm a lonely yea, I will with

1980
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: the only thing keeping us apart is this, this microphone

1981
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: in front of me and a solid internet connection. That's right.

1982
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll be back tomorrow, um, and Phil,

1983
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna start something tomorrow that we said we're gonna

1984
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: do before. Can you explain? Uh? In the Marvel what

1985
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 1: is it? The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Look at that you

1986
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 1: did it? Do it? All right? Um? They had a

1987
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: thing that they did that was called post credit scenes. Yea.

1988
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: They're post post credit sequences, post credit scenes, yes. And

1989
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: they were like where they would tease future movies. They

1990
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: were like bread crumbs, that's right. So look for those.

1991
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna start putting those into th HC because I

1992
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: think it's funny and it's just an extra two minutes

1993
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 1: of talk for for all you guys out there. Um,

1994
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 1: So Phil, I'm I'm leaving it up to you to

1995
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: craft the post credit sequences for TC. Okay, all right,

1996
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: it sounds sounds great. Okay, Bye, Buddy Bye. The Hunting

1997
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Collective with Ben O'Brien is a part of the Meat

1998
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: Eater podcast network. It is produced by Cringe Schneider and

1999
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: engineered by Phil Taylor. You can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify,

2000
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com, or anywhere podcasts are downloadable.

2001
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Wherever you listen, leave a five star review and subscribe.

2002
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: Cool Man, what should our first post credit sequence be?

2003
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you have for dinner tonight?

2004
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but do you think that maybe the

2005
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: first post credit sequence could be this one where we're

2006
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: talking about what the post credit sequence could be in

2007
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: the future, kind of like inception you were reading my mind? Wow,

2008
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: But yes, this is our first post credit sequence where

2009
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: we're talking about what they will be in the future,

2010
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: and and that's really it.