WEBVTT - #242 - Bryson Tiller 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.480 Saboulet Camp Show special guest. I've interviewed him before, but 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.320 never on camera. By the way, shout out to Bryson Tailor. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:12.879 He's in the building. Man, yes, sir, Yes, sir, the legend. Okay. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.920 I gotta say, man, why are you doing stuff on 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.920 camera now? Because before you were not doing camera stuff, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.320 Like I feel like it was kind of like when 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.759 you first came out, like the Traps old days, you 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.599 kind of were keeping a mysterious profile. Yeah. I remember 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:27.880 I interviewed you on the bus, but it was like 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.960 no cameras and that was kind of like the thing 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.640 where it's like, yo, we hear the interviews, Like, but Bryson, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.239 you're kind of very like you kind of you were, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.879 You're still you're pretty low key dude in general, right, Yeah. No, 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:40.400 I was just new to it. I didn't want to, 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.839 you know, be all over the internet, you know what 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.920 I mean, And it was just like a thing for me. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.040 I just was just very new to everything. So I 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.600 was just kind of like trying to take my time 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.800 and not just be rushed into it. You know that's fair. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:55.600 Do you feel like you're kind of like the music 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.600 industry is a very finicky business. It's kind of like 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.639 even just just the entertainment industy in general. You kind 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.319 of splash onto the scene in such a meteoric way 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:10.800 and so fast. Was it like hard to adjust to 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.200 it in such a quick way? You think that that's yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.679 it was a lot a lot to adjust too. Like 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.160 it was like I always tell you who do I 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.679 give this analogy to? But I said all the time, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.000 it's like taking up a lion that was raised inside 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.360 the house and then just put them in a jungle. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.960 You know what I'm saying. For the rist time, it's 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.800 like he's still lying, but you know, it's just like 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.319 weird out here, you know. Yeah, it was going on 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.679 one hundred percent Man for food, Yeah, nah, for sure. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.679 I think like I think I think back to like 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.440 when I first met you. I think I think that 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.160 was when the traps will come out twenty fifteen or 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:48.200 fourteen fifteen fifteen. Yeah, Man, by the way, those Nike 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.960 Dad hats, Man, they owe you a check for those, man, 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.200 Nike unintended by the way, you had those Nike Dad 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:59.080 hats popping. Yeah, it was crazy. Did you notice like 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.440 when you were wearing that at like everyone started wearing 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.600 the Nike like just the vintage like Nike almost like 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.200 the Tiger Woods had kind of low key. You know. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.560 It took a while for me to realize, and then 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.600 I started noticing, Yeah, everybody that everybody's wearing the dad 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.240 at you Definitely, yeah, you were. I would say, you're 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.440 kind of the originator of dad hats and hip hop. Looky, Yeah, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.120 I would say, I definitely you are. One hundred percent. Yeah, 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.600 it's on a round of applause everybody in here. We 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.200 are wearing dad hats because of Pan Griffy, you know 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.079 what I'm saying. Yeah, man, what a time though, Man, 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:31.919 I do feel like, you know, we got to give 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.959 your flowers for being somebody who really kind of revolutionized 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.560 the genre and kind of created your own genre within 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.880 R and B. And I feel like nowadays we really 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:46.400 hear your influence on music in general. Do you feel 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.960 like maybe you don't get enough flowers in terms of 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:54.160 just kind of bringing a new genre into I guess 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:59.880 a subgenre of music into R and B. Hmmm. I 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.800 I mean I've seen a lot of people say trap 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.120 so and but that, but don't mention my name, you 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.040 know what I'm saying. Or I see people talk about 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.000 Kentucky and don't mention my name, which is crazy. It's nuts. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.320 Well that's crazy as wow. Right, don't ever do it again. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.079 Don't let it happen again, right yeah, yeah, so no, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.160 but it's all good that it's all up. Yeah, now 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.640 that obviously Kentucky's obviously a thing now, but when you 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.359 came out, it was not a thing. It was not. Yeah. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.760 Well we had people from you know, Nappy Roots, Nappy Roots, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.040 player Static Major ah, yeah, you know, but I just 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.800 mean in terms of like being on the forefront, like 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.000 you were like on a star level. There's just you. Yeah, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.760 now you got EStG, you got Jack Carlow, we do 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.160 You and Jack have been locked in for a long time. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.440 What is it like now just to see like the 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.280 home state really kind of you know, I have some 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.360 real representation when for a while you were kind of 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.960 standing on the mountain by yourself. Man, I was just 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.560 saying this earlier that it's like it's a relief, you 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.160 know it all first it felt like it was all 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.360 lies on me. You know. Now, I knew that sometimes 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.400 I knew at some point that like somebody will come 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.520 up out of the city, like it's crazy I love 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.520 Key predicted. Yes, TG Jack came out of nowhere. But 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.440 you know, I was like, man, it's only a matter 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.000 of time before we get like a street artist, you know, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.880 you know, somebody who's like rapping to the streets from Louisville. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.720 And then next thing, you know, yes, TG comes out 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.880 and I was just like, yeah, it's the guy. Yeah, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:29.159 So shout out to Louisville, h for people who have 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:33.400 never been, it is a rabid college town, right, Yeah, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.599 I would say, yeah, the Cardinals Cardinals basketball pretty much. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.960 How crazy is the rivalry between the Cardinals and the Wildcats. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.040 I would say, I would say it's pretty crazy. I 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.880 was never like tuning into the sports like that. I 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.760 was in the crib all the time and some Batman 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.560 ship like playing video games and that was pretty much it. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.200 Music is what pulled me outside if anything. But uh, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.520 but yeah, as far as the rivalry goes, it would 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.200 be a thing like it's a question like you know 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.560 what I mean, like who you repping? You know Cards 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.320 or you know the Wildcats? Wildcats? You know, for me, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.240 it was the Wildcat for sure. Oh you were a 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.240 Kentucky wildcast guy. Yeah, yeah, just like Drake, who's obviously 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.800 not from there. Yeah, yeah, I watched the team. I 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.839 watched the year whenever John Wall, Eric Blesso, DeMarcus Cousins. Yeah, 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.880 that was a crazy team. Yeah, it was nuts. I 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.000 like watched every game. I like weird shit like that, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.080 like anomalies, like they won every game, I like stuff 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.920 like that. Yeah, and they had like so many NBA 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.800 I mean it just there was like a seven eight 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.760 year run where just like every every draft there was 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.000 like a top three guy coming from Kentucky. And that 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.360 year was insane. Yeah, that was a wild year, even 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.880 like what was the what's they do? The Enis Cantor 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.680 I think might have been on that team. I think 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.920 he was on that team as well. Or what do 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.400 they call him now for Enis Freedom? I don't know. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.159 Talk about well, first of all, you mentioned video games. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.440 You during the pandemic. Uh, we got to see you 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.560 on Twitch a lot. Oh yeah, you was gaming pretty heavy. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.000 I was Yeah, was it ape Legends you were playing? 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.000 It's still Apex, that's still you know. That's like for 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.120 people who don't know man, Apex Legends is kind of 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:11.120 like the step child of the the video game world 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.760 because we always hear about call of Duty, right, Oh yeah, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.640 modern warfare. Everybody's on Modern Warfare. And then you hear 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.600 about like the overhype ship, you know what I mean. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.920 It's just like and then there's like Fortnite, which is 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.800 d t A, that's two K and that's COD and 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.520 now anything people like mentioned Fortnite or whatever, you know 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.320 what I'm saying. But those are like the main games 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.960 that people know, Like Apex is on the come up, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.640 on the rise, and people don't even realize that, Like 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.240 Apex are just a better game. You think it's better 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.560 than all those I wouldn't say all the other games. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.080 My producer, it's all he fucking does. Then COD absolutely 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.760 he plays who's your main? Right, okay? Right? Man in 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:52.480 the building? Man? Now she's a legend that you could 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.920 select in the game. Oh okay, so she wanted the 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.960 o G legends. So when you play Apex Legends, you 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.880 it's not do you build your own care No, no, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.520 you don't. You just select from a roster of legends 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.320 that they have. Yeah, and if anything, you can put 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.080 the on skin. But they all got their own different abilities. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.120 Like my favorite, who's yours mine is Mirage. So basically 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.120 like I can like just send a decoy and I 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.320 have one Briceontil right here, And then I just walked 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.640 to the bathroom. While you're interviewing that. I was about 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:17.880 to say, do you kind of wish you had that? 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.600 In real I do, Like I don't want to do 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.880 all this ship man, just like, let's send the decoy 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.160 out there. Yeah. Back in the day, MF. Doom used 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.120 to do that. You know what MF. Doom is? Oh yeah, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.480 so MF Doom he because he wears a mask. Yep. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.240 So he had a guy who was built similar to 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.520 him that would go out there and perform some of 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.080 his shows under the mask and just lip sync. And 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.600 I think I did that maybe one time with Swan 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.360 because there was a one point where people couldn't tell 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.920 us apart. Yeah, not for a concert at all. He 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.400 wouldn't survive out there right right right. But when it 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.480 came to like walking through a club or something like, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.040 I think we had to use him as a decoy. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.360 Wait you said, yeah, yeah, my best friend Swine, Like 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.840 you know what I mean. He had he had to 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:03.600 go like wait you had a club walkthrough booked? 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They pulled up to the 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.000 shoot happy smiling. Yeah, you know what I mean. It 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.000 was just super great guys, just and good good spirits man, 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.520 and just classic records. Yeah, exactly, man, And yeah, that 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.800 was dope. We dropped that song. We would sitting there 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.720 for a while, but I wanted to just kind of 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.720 spark and start the album process and kind of shake 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:38.079 up anybody's expectations of what's to come. Yeah, instead of 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.200 putting something out there that's like what people used to 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.480 hear from you. You You know what I'm saying. We got 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.760 a lot more records like that too. And then obviously 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.240 you have the this Diddy record that's going crazy, which 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.959 is really sir, I mean, what's really your record? You 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.800 know what I'm saying, Shout out to Diddy's exactly producing 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.280 a great album. I here right now, yeah man, yeah, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.000 so how does that happen? Does he like, do you? 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.800 Is that song already? And then Diddy hears it and 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.080 it's like, Yo, it existed already. It actually got leaked 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.520 on YouTube. I said it to my little brother. He 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.480 said it to the wrong people. Next thing you know, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.280 it's on YouTube. People like, yo, your song leaked, and 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.040 I was pissed about it. I was angry. I didn't 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.480 talk to my little brother for months, and I remember 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.400 finally I was just like, all right, I'm gonna go check. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.080 I'm gonna go see what's going on. See I people 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:25.640 even like this song. I go in there and I 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.080 read the comments and everybody's just sharing about sharing his 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.200 stories about how they need to move on, and I 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.840 relate to this song so much. I was like, Oh, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.960 that's dope. And then fast forward again to the future. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.959 I'm in LA and I get a call from Diddy 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.120 and he's like, come work on the album. I get 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.400 out there. I see my song on the song title 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.040 on the dry race board, so I was just like, 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.439 is that my song? And he plays the song. Actually, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.840 he tells me a similar shares a similar story like 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:51.960 everything that I was seeing in the comments, So I 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.520 was right, Dan, this is wild, Like yeah, absolutely, So 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.200 he just heard the leaked version, yeah, and just decided 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.839 to put it on the whiteboard for his album. Yeah, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.920 that's just some Diddy ship, right, Hey man, I'm rocking 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.199 with I would do this. I would do the same 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:05.960 thing if I heard something that nobody really heard and 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.880 I feel like the world needed to hear. Yeah, and 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.080 you know, shout out to Diddy from believing in it. Yeah, No, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.000 it's a great record. The remix is dope. You guys 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.160 did I was at the iHeart Festival and you came out. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.880 Oh yeah, shout out to Diddy too. Like his performance 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.080 at IHRAR Festival was amazing, but it also made me 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.680 realize that I'm not the only person who's out of shape, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.840 not for real. Yo. Diddy had a dude who kept 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.360 bringing out a cup of water with a straw in 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.679 between songs. It was amazing. I was like, if I 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.960 was a fucking famous if I was Diddy, I would 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.960 have the same thing. If I'm like performing, I'm like, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.679 I need my water cup guy to come out and 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.360 you know, shout out to Diddy. Yeah. No, it's I think, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:50.840 you know with Diddy, like he's probably him and Khalid. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.920 I'm going to see what this album sounds like, because 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.280 I feel like he's kind of doing his version of 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.400 what Kala has been doing. But he's Diddy, so it's 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.080 just totally different. And it's R and B and R 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.520 and his arm love or he ain't dead or he 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.360 said it is dead but he's trying to bring it back. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.520 You know he's dead. I'm glad he said that, you know, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.840 I think it's I mean, I'm not I'm not saying 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.280 that I agree with him, but I'm just saying I'm 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.640 glad he said that because I feel like people out 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.880 there who either agree or disagree or like it created 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.000 a conversation about the genre. However you feel about it, right, Yeah, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.680 and it uh, you know, it's just gonna make things better. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.640 I think you know when I said hip hop was dead, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.280 now look at hip hop. That's the biggest ship. So 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.439 it's like, this is true. This is true. Your new album, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.000 how would you describe it as just sonically compared to 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:41.320 you know, everything else stuff? Sonically, I would say, uh hmmm, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.120 it's just very different. Man. We're just trying. I just 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.800 explore a lot of new world's places that I never 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.040 really been before, and like, well maybe some places I 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.800 tried to go before and I wasn't too comfortable in 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.120 those spaces, like, for example, a song like Rummy Draw. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:57.640 Like I had a song called Rummy Draw one of 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.760 my second album, and I wasn't really I was nervous 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.360 about doing a song like that. Now I have a 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.840 song that's kind of like that. But you know, I'm 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.840 a lot more confident in that space. And you know, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.760 you can just tell, you can hear it, you feel it. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.120 So there's a lot of confidence throughout this throughout this album, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.160 you know. Yeah, do you feel like because I feel 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.840 like Nas went through this with Illmatic and fifty went 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.840 through it with get Richard I trying where like you 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.720 put out an album like Trap Soul and like people 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.040 just want another one of those. Yeah, that's the worst, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.200 right And because that happened with Nas. I mean like, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.680 if you look back to NAS's second album, it was written, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.160 it's a fucking perfect project in my opinion, but when 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.960 it first came out, people were like, Yo, this ain't Illmatic? 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.560 What the fuck is this? You know what I'm saying. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.800 Do you feel like is that a gift? The gift 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.080 in the curse part of having a project like Trap Soul, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:52.480 and especially it's your first project, right right? Yeah? Crazy 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.960 the way I'll see it now. I'm just like, man, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.640 it's there for you to listen to it. Yeah, jay 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.000 Z said it best, Like Nick, can I say, say 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.200 what you want? Niggas want my old shit by my 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.520 old album, as simple as that, Like you want if 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.800 you want that, go get it. Tyler Creator said something 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.680 like that too. He says something along the lines of like, yo, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.000 go get it from the source. Why I get the 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.880 the you know, the reproduced version or whatever, like you 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.800 know what I mean, It's pure over here. So just 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.640 go listen to that, you know what I mean. And 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.000 if you're a favorite artist or whoever it is that 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.320 you supporting, ain't putting out anything else like that, And 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.440 then should I guess, go find another artist to listen to. Yes, Yeah, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.400 I also think too, like you gotta grow man like 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.000 at the end of the day, like you said, you've 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.840 seen places that you didn't see before you recorded your 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.760 first album, so you want to You've lived a lot 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.280 of life, you know what I mean? I have one 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.640 hundred percent. Yo, talk to me about your verse on 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.360 Wild Thoughts, which is one of like it's probably my favorite. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.080 It's top three or four calid record for me. It's 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.280 a fucking smash. Obviously you and re read going back 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.960 and forth. Your verse, though, is like the verse that 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.880 like if you're mixing on the air, like you have 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.120 to play that, Like your verse is the verse to play? 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.960 Really my verse get cut out or that's because people 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.480 the DJs are lazy, the DJs that know, like you 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.400 got to kind of cut ahead into the record and 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.560 play the bric verse. I feel like your versus the 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.160 quotables like, shout out to you man for playing I 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.280 know a lot of DJs that's the verse thing. I 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.680 feel like you got to you kind of like have 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.560 the version where actually there's like in DJ Pools, there's 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.880 versions of that record where it's just the hook and 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.600 then your verse and then the hook and then it's 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.680 you know for for DJs. Yeah. Interesting, you're not aware 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.120 about this about your own verse that it's like a thing. Yeah, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.600 classic verse, man, it was. It was an interesting for sure. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.840 I thank you, but I just wish I wish you 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.120 could have went differently. But man, how could have gone differently? 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.000 And I just wish, I mean because I just need it. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.040 I wanted to, like, you know, get Rihanna's energy. I 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.840 didn't get to hear what she did. Well, I heard 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.560 it through a FaceTime call, but like I wanted to 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.600 hear it. So what was the process of that record? 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.760 Like it was Party next Door? Who wrote the song? 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.600 Party next I went to college place, we had dinner, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.040 invites me to the studio. I always tell him, was like, bro, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.720 you don't never have to give me a whole spiel 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.400 about a song, like you just played the song and 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.679 like go, But he always gives me this whole like 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.560 he's like, yeah, yo, don't let start selling cars. It's 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.920 over nah for real. So then he played this song 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.160 and I was just like, I'm honestly, you could just 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.600 you have to say nothing like this is obviously a smash, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.200 you know what I'm saying. Thank you for even want 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:19.600 to include me. You said you want to put who 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.040 on to Rihanna? Oh yeah, definitely, thank you. But he 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.920 wanted He was like, Yo, we need the verse tonight though, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.360 or something like that, and I was just like, all right, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.560 I mean, but ain't she gonna have to and we 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.480 have to pitch it up so you know what I mean? 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.639 Rihanna sings in a higher octave. He was like, now 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.480 we just need tonight and I was just like, all right, cool, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.120 So I did the verse. But you know, when I'm 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.639 writing the verse to like that matching parties energy, you 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:43.800 know what I mean, it's kind of hard to like 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.679 imagine what's going on. Like I would have just liked 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.240 to do a little bit more vocals, you know what 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.840 I mean, probably would have changed a couple of lyrics. Yeah, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.119 I just thought I was you know a song called 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.639 wild Thoughts. I'm gonna just say the wildest ship that 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.520 I can think of, the wildest, the wildest thoughts. You 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.639 know that's fair. Yeah, and that era it could have 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.600 been about wild thoughts as well. Wild thoughts. Yeah, that 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.520 was like when everybody was saying the word. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.280 I still say that. Yeah? Is that? Is that still? 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.360 You know? Thoughts? Maybe not as much, but it's definitely 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.800 definitely a word. It's a Marvel Kes out there. I mean, well, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.560 we gotta stop the interview real quick. We're live in 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.119 Vegas right now. Listen, fellas, if you're watching this and 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.399 you need a little extra pep in your step, you 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.159 know what step I'm talking about. I'm talking about that 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.400 dick step. Dammit, all right, if you need some help 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.760 with that Dicky yours. Blue Choo is here to save 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:36.000