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Speaker 1: the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen preview, Dan Hansas, Did I say my name yet?

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Speaker 1: You've you just said your name? Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I didn't say twice? Many more names though, twice.

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Speaker 1: But what's the newest one. The new one is God

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Speaker 1: of Bongo. But let's stay on. Uh, let's stay focused.

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Speaker 1: Here's a lot to games, a lot of games to

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Speaker 1: get to. No more buys, so a lot to dig into.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, um gang, you know what this

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Speaker 1: week is, Week fifteen, tell us gotta have it Sunday,

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Speaker 1: gotta have it, gotta have it. There are seven teams

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Speaker 1: by my count. You want me to share the teams

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Speaker 1: now or as we go along there any of them

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Speaker 1: playing on Saturday, because we do have you know, the

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Speaker 1: three NFL Network games. I know, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: all six teams got to have it? Not really, but well,

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to be a good soldier there.

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Speaker 1: But they're great games, and we're gonna get to those games.

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Speaker 1: There are seven teams and I'm gonna forget the top

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Speaker 1: if I try to do it as the games come.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you right now. Seahawks on Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: so we already got that out of the way. Panthers, Jaguars, Lions,

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Speaker 1: not everyone's gonna have it or get it no matter

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Speaker 1: what they in just one case. Yes, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to all these games. I'm gonna break it down.

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Speaker 1: Let's start, yes, on the Saturday schedule. Greg, Are you

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Speaker 1: that's that's straight outerwear. No, this is inner where it's cold.

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Speaker 1: with the game one of maybe the game of the week,

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Speaker 1: and it's at high Mark Stadium in Western New York.

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Speaker 1: It is the Miami Dolphins eight and five, A little

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Speaker 1: Our friend Colleen Wolfe is going to be there. The

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Speaker 1: TA and the Dolphins offense in those conditions, I'd be

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Speaker 1: noivous if I'm a Miami fan. Well, it does seem

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Speaker 1: like the talking point this week is, you know, Ken

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Speaker 1: me that, um, the way football coverage goes, it's like

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Speaker 1: and they did confuse that system. And so that's the response.

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Speaker 1: And when the Bills played Miami way back when in

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Speaker 1: But to me, Miami still has the talent to go

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Speaker 1: and everything you said that it makes sense, Greg about

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Speaker 1: like show their toughness through a lot of or maybe

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Speaker 1: What more can you ask the quarterback to do than

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Speaker 1: give your offense identity. Yeah, you know, but you're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not rooting for Deshaun Watson. But or maybe you are,

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Speaker 1: but well, i'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: the end of season right now. I understand. I understand um,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be nervous about anything that happens with

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Speaker 1: his play really this season. Now when he goes to

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Speaker 1: a full off season program, through training camp, through preseason,

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Speaker 1: and then if we next September and he's still looking

435
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Speaker 1: very scattershot, not like the same guy, and you're not

436
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Speaker 1: liking his body language in the press conferences like, oh

437
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Speaker 1: this guy million dollar quarterback that we we kind of

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Speaker 1: sold our reputation for a little bit here and now

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Speaker 1: I want to point to like Peyton Manning who missed

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Speaker 1: an entire year with a very serious injury. You'd have

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Speaker 1: excuses for him to come in and be cold when

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Speaker 1: he was hot right out of the gate. It's like

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks where But that's what that's

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Speaker 1: what Cleveland thought they got to. I hope you're not.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland thought they got a great quarterback and a good quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's a yeah. Well so Peyton Manning is like

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Speaker 1: an all time saying he progress the next few weeks

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Speaker 1: that I think you got worried about it long term

449
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Speaker 1: and j K. Dobbins had a big return fifteen for

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Speaker 1: one twenty, but it was a little sad watching that

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Speaker 1: breakaway run. Clearly he's not he's not healthy. So I

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Speaker 1: would only say about there was a lot of like

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Speaker 1: optimism about Dobbin's back and helping them. Obviously he's a

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Speaker 1: work in progress himself. UM as he comes back from

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Speaker 1: um all the issues he's had physically. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: taking a break. We're taking a break. We will be

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Speaker 1: back and hitting the other UH Island games. Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: and Monday Night football. Stay right there? Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: It's a Saturday triple header only on NFL networking along.

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Speaker 1: First the Colts battled the Biking, then the Ravens space

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Speaker 1: the Browns, and the Dolphins take on the Bills in

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Speaker 1: prime time, back to back to back. It's a Saturday

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Speaker 1: Showdown triple header. Saturday, starting in one only on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: That right, welcome back. It is now time to we

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Speaker 1: have the draft coming up. We have a very special

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Speaker 1: guest helping us out at the top of the draft

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Speaker 1: and looking forward to that. But first let's finish out

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Speaker 1: the Island games as we call them. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. The German travel to FedEx Field to

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Speaker 1: face the Washington Commanders to seven five and one teams

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Speaker 1: and it is stupid, uh And I talked about it,

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Speaker 1: gotta have it Sunday. I looked at the schedules. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say Washington's gotta have it, but the g

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Speaker 1: Men need this game. They have one win in six weeks. Greggy.

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Speaker 1: And if you go after what happened against the Eagles

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Speaker 1: last week, and as disappointing as the tie was against

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Speaker 1: Washington the week before at home, if you got your

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Speaker 1: butts banked here, it's over, Johnny, Who do you disagree? No,

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Speaker 1: because I'd mean, I'd come on, look at the results

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Speaker 1: in the past almost two months. They would have chance.

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Speaker 1: Because the NFC is so strange with the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think they're a bottom eight team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL or so like in terms of how

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Speaker 1: they're playing right now and certainly in terms of talent,

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Speaker 1: and that's what stands out to me. They're a team

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Speaker 1: that wins with scheme and not with talent. And I

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Speaker 1: think playing the same team twice in a row if

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Speaker 1: you're the Commanders, helps that out. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Giants needed that game when they played each other a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and they had it because when

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Speaker 1: I watched that game, I thought and I picked the

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Speaker 1: Giants in that game and ended up being a time

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking, do not pick the Giants again in

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Speaker 1: this matchup because the talent disparity when the Giants are

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Speaker 1: on offense and that front for Washington is on the

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Speaker 1: field and they might get Chase Young back. This week

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Speaker 1: is a massive mismatch and so I just don't see

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Speaker 1: the Giants scoring a lot of points. And I think

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Speaker 1: the only way they win is if they forced two

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Speaker 1: or three tight Taylor hein Nik turnovers, which is possible.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, Washington didn's a better team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean to your point, in like, this is the

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Speaker 1: Giant schedule after they play Washington, the Vikings, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: The Cults who knows what goes on there. And then

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Speaker 1: you got the Eagles again, and the Eagles Giants game

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Speaker 1: from last weekend was as big a separation between two

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Speaker 1: teams with winning records that I can recall. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was outside of maybe that Dallas Minnesota wipe out

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Speaker 1: from earlier in the juice because it was so clear

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Speaker 1: over and about fifteen sixteen minutes, and it exposed the

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Speaker 1: Giants as a team that simply went earlier in the year.

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Speaker 1: If they're in a manageable game situation, and Sa Kuon

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Speaker 1: Barkley was looking like rookie year Sa Kwan Barkley and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones makes enough throws and key spots, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: win tight games. Will you bury them in a hole

516
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Speaker 1: like what happened last week? They had no way out.

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Speaker 1: There's no weapons really around at Jones at this point

518
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Speaker 1: in Sae Kuon Barkley is not the guy he was before.

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Speaker 1: The better running team in this is Washington. They've been

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Speaker 1: more yards per attempt than any any team in the

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Speaker 1: league and a bigger time of possession than any team

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Speaker 1: in the league since Heineke has been in there. And

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Speaker 1: so it's not really they're not putting it all on

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Speaker 1: heine which I like because he gonna kill you a

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Speaker 1: couple of times a game, but will also make a

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Speaker 1: couple of dazzling throws. He's just sort of that dude

527
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a roller coaster. But it's not all

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Speaker 1: on him. They're a really good running team right now,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Giants defense is tricky to go

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Speaker 1: up against in certain ways. They probably want to apply

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, but right this version of the

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Speaker 1: Giants is just such a lesser operation. And I was

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Speaker 1: really excited about the Giants. That excitement has faded. They

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Speaker 1: Taylor heinekey, Yes you said it. He's up and down.

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Speaker 1: He's a middling type quarterback, but he saved their season

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Speaker 1: with that fourth down conversion at that Life Stadium two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. And don't don't fag he While the Giants

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Speaker 1: got their butts beat in uh by the Eagles last

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Speaker 1: week and went through again the toll of a long

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Speaker 1: season in a December game and see Quan being way

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Speaker 1: less than and now they gotta, you know, plan for

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Speaker 1: this game. Washington had its by so they had a

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Speaker 1: chance now not only study the game tape of the

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Speaker 1: Giants game, they hit. Thereby they get healthier, then come

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Speaker 1: back and get a Giants team that's obviously doubting themselves.

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Speaker 1: They haven't won a game in a month the Giants now,

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Speaker 1: so it's you know, I think it does set up

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Speaker 1: really well for the Commanders, who are six one and

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Speaker 1: one since week six. I don't think they're an elite team,

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Speaker 1: but I think they are certainly at this point a

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Speaker 1: better team than the Giants. And this one is when

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty strong about and go watch what happened

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Speaker 1: to Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal against the Eagles pass

554
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Speaker 1: rushers last week. That's what I don't like about this

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Speaker 1: game either. Thomas has had a great year. He gave

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Speaker 1: up one sack in that game. He he was okay,

557
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Speaker 1: But the rest of the group, you're right, is troubling

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Speaker 1: and the interior of this Washington line is awesome. What

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Speaker 1: one positive for the Giants is since these oglari return,

560
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Speaker 1: he's been their best defensive player and Thibodeaux is playing better.

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Speaker 1: So I do think you have two good at edge

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Speaker 1: rushers to maybe force one of those Hyak mistakes. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: if this, if this thing is just lined up and

564
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Speaker 1: play even Washington's way better. Yeah, and Barkley. If there

565
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Speaker 1: was one thing that came out of getting blown out

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Speaker 1: by the Eagles, they got to get Barkley out of

567
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Speaker 1: that game. Um, but he's gonna, he's practicing, he's got

568
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Speaker 1: an issue. But the thing is they're caught in a

569
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Speaker 1: really bad spot. Anytime your star player is dealing with

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Speaker 1: anything neck related and he's a you know, a battering

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Speaker 1: ram running back who's you know, everyone's trying to destroy

572
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Speaker 1: and they need him to touch the ball thirty times

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Speaker 1: to win this game. None of this feels like it's

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Speaker 1: passing the smell test. And oh, by the way, Washington

575
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Speaker 1: has the second lowest e p A per rush in

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Speaker 1: the league. So yeah, somebody's very confident in how this

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Speaker 1: matchup will unfold. All right, thank you, Grave Digger Heroes.

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Speaker 1: I'm back again. Another win last week keeping pace with

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Speaker 1: Greggy three back. Time to play uh football matchup between

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Speaker 1: the Commandos and the Giants. You guys know, I've never

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Speaker 1: believed in this Giants team. They're not very good. They

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Speaker 1: got really lucky in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 1: Their lucks around out, So it's time for the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: do you know, go ahead and started to take commands

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Speaker 1: of this wild card race. Lock it up? Yeah, very good,

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Speaker 1: well done. I guess I don't I understand what Nick

587
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Speaker 1: saying that he kept pace in the sense that he

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Speaker 1: didn't he kept paced. Yeah, last week before that he

589
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Speaker 1: fell behind paid. He's also keeping to your time code demands.

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Speaker 1: Stand with these, with these clips and suggestion, they are

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Speaker 1: less cinematic in scope now. But I would say I

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Speaker 1: don't want to rein in Nick in that way. I

593
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Speaker 1: don't think if he needs to go walking through fields

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Speaker 1: again to deliver the content he feels is elite. Please

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Speaker 1: do something. Don't squelch his creativity, and don't put that

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Speaker 1: on me. I don't don't put that evil on me.

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Speaker 1: Mark what I want? Nicky? He said, can we keep

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Speaker 1: it under a minute here? Sometimes talk about us to

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Speaker 1: make sure we understand. Yeah, well we're not understanding more

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Speaker 1: rage the message. There was a boat, you know, floating

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Speaker 1: a little bit and I had to had to bring

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Speaker 1: it in a little bit. But I don't want it

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Speaker 1: to curtail. You can be funny our podcast saying this,

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Speaker 1: You could be creative without it going too low. You

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Speaker 1: can also do shows to go about a hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes if you need to. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: your game. Let's do it Monday Night Football. We don't

608
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Speaker 1: spend too much time in this game though, the Rams

609
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Speaker 1: four and nine at Packers from lambeau Field. If there

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Speaker 1: is intrigue, well you know, I know ESPN and everyone

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Speaker 1: connected with Monday Night Football is going to sell as

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Speaker 1: hard as you know. Baker's first game since that Thursday

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Speaker 1: night miracle. So you do have that that gives the

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Speaker 1: Rams at least the little juice at this state stage.

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Speaker 1: And then for the Packers, I don't know, if you

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Speaker 1: like watching Aaron Rodgers play football, which despite everything else,

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Speaker 1: I really do enjoy watching Rogers, you get that in

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Speaker 1: prime time maybe some elements there, and depending what else

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Speaker 1: that those NFC East teams are falling hard. With the Giants,

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Speaker 1: they they've run the numbers, well, they've certainly got to

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Speaker 1: have it. I don't think the Packers can do this

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Speaker 1: or will do this, but if they won their last

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Speaker 1: four games to get to nine and eight, there's a

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Speaker 1: realistic chance that that gets you in the playoffs at

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Speaker 1: anner not I'm just trying to sell the game, and

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Speaker 1: I think they'll win this game. There'll be an eight

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Speaker 1: point They're an eight point favorite. And quietly, I think

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Speaker 1: their offensive line, which was an issue early in the season,

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Speaker 1: since they put Elton Jenkins back at guard, even without

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Speaker 1: Bok try potentially on Monday Night, they've kind of figured

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Speaker 1: it out. And when you protect Rogers and you can

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Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit, you would think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be enough against Baker. But I mean, they're definitely

635
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Speaker 1: not running the table. I'm not going down that road

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Speaker 1: with you, but I would say that there is an

637
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Speaker 1: air of optimism now because of what Christian Watson has become.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's like I think there was, you know,

639
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: we were days away from maybe we just need to

640
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: put ord In Love in there and put Aaron Rodgers

641
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: on the shelf because it's more valuable to see what

642
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: you have and will Aaron Rodgers be back. I at

643
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: this point, I'd rather say, like, keep Aaron Rodgers in

644
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: there and allow him to build chemistry with Christian Watson

645
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: going in the next season, because I agree, you keep

646
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: the guy in there that you're paying three years in

647
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million dollars, like that was always

648
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: a little bit like there's a lot of melodrama, not

649
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: just with Rogers himself, but the way people talk about

650
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Rogers week seventeen. But if they win this game, they'll

651
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: be mathematically alive heading into Miami next week, so that

652
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: you're obviously when that chatter was coming up about Love,

653
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: things were very grim, and it was like, do you

654
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: want Aaron Rodgers to like tear his knee up or

655
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: something and go into the off season with that It

656
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: was just shelved him and get a look at Love.

657
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was grim when they were down sixteen

658
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: three to the worst defense in the league in Chicago

659
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: to they got out of it. Oh yeah, I know,

660
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: but just mean like it looked it wasn't a great

661
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: point in their season. Would you be would you be

662
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: stunned if he finishes the season on the heater Rogers?

663
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Now I wouldn't. I wouldn't be stunned, But I don't

664
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: see that with this team. I'd be more I would

665
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: be much more surprised if Baker Mayfield does like I

666
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: still think you can limit him in terms of his

667
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: short game. He throws it well down the field, middle

668
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: of the field. Can he get like the easy passes

669
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: that keep an offense moving. I think, um, the biggest like,

670
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: now that we have a little distance from that Thursday

671
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: and I come back, the biggest thing that I take

672
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: away from that was such a hugely important game for him.

673
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Obviously we were talking two days earlier, what kind of

674
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: value would he even have for teams looking for a backup.

675
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I think obviously that showed teams, oh, you want to

676
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: have that guy in the building if you want to

677
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: jump start. And maybe it also you know, showed him

678
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: like I, Okay, this is this can still be fun,

679
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: and maybe I can go sign with a team that

680
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: has a so so quarterback and eventually work my way

681
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: back into the lineup and take like a Taylor Heineken

682
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: type route to a starting role. So I've got a

683
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: team with a older quarterback with the neck back injury

684
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: that seems like he'll be an injury uh risk and

685
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: uh a great coach. Well it seems perfect right. Well yeah,

686
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: I like that's why they brought him in, not just

687
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: for it to save this last season, but he just

688
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: number two because things. Everyone has short memories. He can't

689
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: now like Crater Monday night and then have a bad

690
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: rest of the season because then this as exciting as

691
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: that game was, it probably it will dissipate some of

692
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: this buzz around him. Finish. He has to finish in

693
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: a decent manner, but it does give give us the

694
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: game some juice. And Brian gudakanst our friend, our German friend,

695
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: the general manager um from Germany. He was he was

696
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: asked about Aaron Rodgers, who's turning. I'll wait, Mr grave Digger.

697
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I like the early good stuff. It was raw, it

698
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: was less produced, but you could you could hear the

699
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: hunger in his voice. Another person that gets a theme

700
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: song around here? Are you just outwardly begging for the song? No?

701
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 1: You You asked if I wanted one on the last show,

702
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: and of course I'd say you don't know if I

703
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: asked in a serious way. But now that you've brought

704
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: her up, yeah, it's happening. Nothing. That was sort of

705
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Mark's way of asking, like the Reddit board to do

706
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: it for managers getting one wants a song, everybody please

707
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: give it, give him a song. I am not in

708
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: any of the submissions. We will will go through the

709
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: tone in your voice, through the submissions, personalities around yourself

710
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: and have forty two nicknames, and I simply want a

711
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: theme song n podcast at gmail dot com and the

712
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: subject Mark wants a theme song? What's in that Gmail account?

713
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: I wonder. I don't know. I haven't checked it in

714
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: a lot. I can only imagine what's going on. And

715
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you could have just come to us

716
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: privately and said I really want a theme song, and

717
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: we absolutely rolled this out. You absolutely would have not

718
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: lifted a finger if I came to the two of

719
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: you privately asking for a theme song. Now it will happen,

720
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and it will happen against your will, all right, which

721
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: you will be forced to enjoy and deal with, which

722
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: is how I like. I would have liked to be

723
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: a part of the meeting where market comes to us

724
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: privately and asked for that there. I wanted to be there.

725
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that would have been healthy. But I like

726
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: that you're doing it in real time and putting a

727
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: gun to the podcast head. Well you forced my hint,

728
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: all right, let's get Switzerland over here watching YouTube. You

729
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: know when you say that no one finds it likable

730
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: on either side? You know what, people don't really like Switzerland.

731
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: That's what Jessica is from Switzerland. People like Switzerland. People

732
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: are happy there Switzerland. And if you slashed it, if

733
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: you're thinking, my goal in this podcast is to come

734
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: out outwardly likable, like where have you been? Fair point?

735
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Who is from Switzerland? Yes, yes, that's right, that country

736
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: redeemed itself. Roger Federer one of the nicest guys around.

737
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, Roger, I mean everyone loves him Monday Night

738
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: and all my friends are jerks. Hide is from Switzerland.

739
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Are we getting to the draft? Now? Let's do it

740
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: all right, Let's get to the draft, and let's welcome

741
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: in a friend man that's not afraid to take a

742
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: side because he has moral fiber. He'd never say I'm Switzerland.

743
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: He would say this is how I feel. I'm gonna

744
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: say it with my chest. He's Kevin Patrack coming at you. Well, well,

745
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: well it's about dang time. It's been our resident Lions

746
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: fan from way back in the day. Yes, hirate my

747
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: team for your own purposes. I understand that little And

748
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: I don't even get a lousy letter or call letter.

749
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I ripped all your posters off the wall. You just

750
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: whoop in have all the fun. We've been dying for

751
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: years and years years and years, and then you three

752
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: come in for the fun times. You're just speculators here. See,

753
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: we got our little neighborhood. It was in dire straits,

754
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: cleaning up the block, getting rid of the burned out buildings.

755
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Oh and then the speculators come in when it's all

756
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: cleaned up, just raising the prices. So you're saying we're

757
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: gentrifying the Lions fan base here exactly without saying a

758
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: little fun. And the worst part, you didn't even reach out.

759
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm right here. Wait, hold on, Patra, hold on, Well,

760
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: the whole what got email, not a slack nothing. The

761
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: whole thing is when we interact with you, we want

762
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: a feisty Patra. So our strategy was was absolutely perfect.

763
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: You've come on, you bring a lot of fire. That's

764
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: what we asked for. And so you actually should be

765
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: pleased with our strategy. Perhaps we stuck by the Lions,

766
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: most of us did. When they were one in six,

767
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: the buildings were still pretty burned out back then. If

768
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna get blamed for them going on a losing

769
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: streak when we picked them, then we deserve credit. We're

770
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of money into this Lion's economy, somebody

771
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: to go back and look at all the team of

772
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: eight scills that you guys have done, because they've been

773
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: trash after the first one. Okay, Cardinals and Panthers are

774
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: both good, and then after that it's been tough. Yeah,

775
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: you've got a point. I'm just saying. So you could

776
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: have called me and let me hey, we're gonna thinking

777
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: about doing this. Hey, what do you what are your

778
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: thoughts here? Uh? The move would have been to clear

779
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: it with you. You're saying no, I don't even need

780
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: a clear I just said you could say, hey, we're

781
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: gonna do this. Hey, would you like to come on

782
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: and let us know what the positives and the negatives

783
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: of this, uh, this ride we're going to take. Well,

784
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: you're here right now. Let's hear it. How's it feeling

785
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: to be Alliance fan? It doesn't feel like it's come on? Alright, alright,

786
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: let's let's let's take the temperature down in the room

787
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: to the party. Let's take the temperature down in the room. Here.

788
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: We we did we did fail you, Kevin, and we

789
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: never want to do that. But now we we are

790
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: on your side, we are on the and we just

791
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: want to know what it's what's it like right now

792
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: to be allians fan uh um, cautiously optimistic. Okay, interesting

793
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: like the direction. But we've been here before. Um you

794
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: know if I don't, you guys probably weren't following the nineties,

795
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: the Wayne Fons Lions. I can remember Wayne Funds see

796
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: sawing optimism. He was going to get fired one year,

797
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: and then they would make a mini run and almost

798
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and then then he wouldn't get fired.

799
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: And then you know you had Barry Sanders, Loomas Brown

800
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: from and more optimism, Robert Porchet on the edge. There

801
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: was pieces that you could convince yourself that they could

802
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: be turned it around. You were a small child though

803
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: back then that was a long time ago. Don't antagonize

804
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: and we're just getting things calmed down. No, no no, I'm

805
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: just saying like, this is new, this is new in

806
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: your adulthood. Get there, let me get there. My point

807
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: is we've had these Okay, we can see a bright future.

808
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: We got aman Rah, we got Aiden's plan better. There's

809
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: pieces that you can see, but will they take the

810
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: next step. The easiest part of the NFL is going

811
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: from the seller to the basement. Now, can you take

812
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: this next step to the first floor and eventually get

813
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: to the penthouse. Those are much harder steps to take, understandable.

814
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I hear that as a Jet fan, I hear that

815
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: you need to see that that next step to really

816
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: feel like you've made it. And we're gonna get We're

817
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna get to the Jets and lines and in a minute,

818
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: because the draft is opening, and um, Kevin, would you mind,

819
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: and again, apologies for everything and basically every yeah, um,

820
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: but we'd love for you to sit in on the

821
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: first round of the draft with us, could you would?

822
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it, alright, First pick goes to Mark cler

823
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: all right, well, uh, it's a good week of football.

824
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the game that I most want

825
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: to see. That's how this works. Uh, Titans at Chargers,

826
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: which would be taking place, you know, from our work office.

827
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: And uh, this Chargers team hadn't been last week, I

828
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken this because the Tennessee Titans are a

829
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: spiraling nose diving operation at the moment um, so they're

830
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: in like a survival mode scenario. I like that about it.

831
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: But the Chargers after Sunday night, I feel like it

832
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: was a turning point for this team. And I know

833
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: it's the Chargers, so it's like they'll probably I know,

834
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I know, but I just would say this that I

835
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: think that Brandon Staley really, for the first time in

836
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: his two year coaching career, has is that a point

837
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: where he can create genuine momentum around his overall program

838
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: because last week was one of the first times where

839
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: the Staley defense made an absolute mockery of the high

840
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: powered Dolphins, and it looked like it just worked. It

841
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: was the way he used Michael Davis, just the fact

842
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: that that should have been the plan he used, he

843
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: did it effectively. You got it. On the flip side,

844
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: you have justin Herbert after months of you know, consternation,

845
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: it seems like this offense was so pent up that

846
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: he was injured, He wasn't himself. People are starting to

847
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: talk about him, he's maybe not the guy we think

848
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: he was. And then he went and did what he

849
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: did on Sunday night. It completely revived my faith on

850
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. What the Chargers could be.

851
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: Will I be bitten for this likely? But I think

852
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: they're obviously hitting the Titans at a really good time

853
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: while their defense, you know is built to stop the pass,

854
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: and the Titans are obviously a run first team, so

855
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: that's a big time test for them to stand up.

856
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: I know the Titans haven't run the ball well lately,

857
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: but they got a little better for most of that

858
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game till it till it fell apart. I think

859
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: what was a little lost in the Herbert game was like,

860
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: how much of this is just Mike Williams, Like justin

861
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: Herbert has been great all along? How many of those

862
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: great throws that Herbert made would only have been caught

863
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: by Mike Williams. And I don't just mean on this

864
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: charges roster, of course, on this roster he expands the

865
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: types of throws Herbert can even make. The best throws

866
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: were to Mike Wins. I mean in the entire NFL.

867
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: He's one of the best boundary ball is up in

868
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: the air, you go gotta get it deep down the

869
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: field or for a first down if you're out running.

870
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the league at it.

871
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: And we haven't gotten to see him that much, but

872
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: he's peaking right now and he makes all the difference

873
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: for me. And I don't think the Titans have a

874
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: cornerback physical enough Kevin patrack to to stand up to

875
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. They don't have the secondary. Clearly, The question

876
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: is will the Chargers defense off offensive line, I'm sorry,

877
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: uh stand up to the charter Titans pass rush. That's

878
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: where the that's the key to this game for me

879
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: is the Titans d line first, the Chargers. Oh, the

880
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: Chargers on line played pretty well the other day, and

881
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert can make throws while getting hit. But if

882
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: Simmons is in there crushing the middle, then that's the

883
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: That's where the Titans are gonna make their hey by

884
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: not giving him him to find those deep pastors because

885
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee secondaries one of the worst in the NFL, helps

886
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: stout Corey and and Dinko Attre on the other side,

887
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: looks like he'll probably be back. Trail On Burke's is

888
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: not practicing as of Wednesday. I'm not sure what the

889
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Thursday report was. Um, they also had Robert Woods not

890
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: practicing Wednesday, and none of this sets up well for

891
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: the Tennessee passing game. Jumping up here, so you're gonna

892
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: again put a lot on Derrick Henry's plate. What else

893
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: is new? I wanted to say one more point about

894
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: herbert Sunday Night game, which was just brilliant and shut

895
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: up a lot of people, uh that we're saying certain

896
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: things about the two quarterbacks involved in that game. My

897
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: favorite throw was actually the one who made to Keenan Allen.

898
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: That still doesn't make sense. That was so good a

899
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: sideline throw probably about ten twelve yards that you watch

900
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: it on replay. You watch it in real time, and

901
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: it looked like he threw it through the defender. And

902
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: then you should show the replay and it only looks

903
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: slightly um less possible as it gets into Alan's hands,

904
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: to the point where Alan turn around, it's like pointing

905
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: out him like, oh my god, you just did that.

906
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: And then Herbert's pointing back in me, Yeah I did

907
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: do that. You did it too, buddy, And like the

908
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: vibes are good. I think it does set up well

909
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. But also bringing Grave bigger here justin

910
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: the um this is you know, we talked about Crossroads

911
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: game they went down the wrong road, uh, and talked

912
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: about this on the Power Rankings with Colleen. The Chargers

913
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: are a team that you could totally see coming off

914
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: They went down their own road, A good road. Oh,

915
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: let me go help out the Titans. And then the

916
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: Titans trip them and push them in the dirt, and

917
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: they use this game to get on the right cross road,

918
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: and then the Chargers are left on the other side.

919
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: The Titans need, need, need to have it, get it.

920
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: Um My confidence level and the Titans is pretty low,

921
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: especially if Traylon Burke's doesn't play. But I do think

922
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: the Chargers run defense is not that good and they're

923
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: susceptible to what the Titans do well. But for the

924
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Titans to get a win in this game, the Chargers

925
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: are gonna need to charger like they're gonna need to

926
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: get some luck. The Titans guys haven't been like making

927
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: better plays than the opponents in recent weeks. He saw

928
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: such great catches. But like Za Jones and Evan Ingraman

929
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville game last week, I've seen the Chargers do

930
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: things like that. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen Justin Herbert

931
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: make incredible plays for the Titans to win. The other

932
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: teams got to shoot themselves in the foot a couple

933
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: of times, and I don't I mean the Chargers have

934
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: notoriously done that to themselves a lot, So I guess

935
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: both teams will have like a lose off. Whoever doesn't

936
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: beat themselves the most can win this game. I mean,

937
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: only one team in the league is giving up more

938
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: passing yards per game than Tennessee. I like that with

939
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, justin Herbert Triage. I feel like

940
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: it's a guy to have a game for the Chargers absolutely,

941
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean they could they Here's the thing is, they

942
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: look at the schedules. I mean, they could think that

943
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: they can afford a loss because their next three they'll

944
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: be even more heavily favored. But I think if they

945
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: can get past this game, they're going to make the playoffs.

946
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: They have the second easiest remaining strength of schedule. This

947
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: is the toughest game they have left. If you can

948
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: win this, you can. That's what I mean that it's

949
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: such a momentum builder for them. And I think that

950
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: it's Brandon Stale is like, who who you know? You've

951
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: got that Sean Payton sent things sitting out there. It's like,

952
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: shut all that up. And I know Graver and all

953
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: the other Titans fans have looked at the remaining schedule

954
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: if you lose this game, things start to get very scary.

955
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: When you look at the path to the playoffs in

956
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: the a f C South, You're gonna need another team

957
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: in the mix that we're gonna get to to continue

958
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: to play well. But it opens the door for something

959
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: catastrophic for Tennessee if they lose this game. Let's move

960
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: to the second pick of the draft. And here he

961
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: is Kevin Patra, the lifelong Lions fan, and here I

962
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: am tug Boat, the longtime Jets fan. So Lions Jets,

963
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: and I do feel Patrick that this is a double

964
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: gout to have a game for both teams. Um, the

965
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: team that wins is gonna be feeling very confident about

966
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: their chances of making the dance in January, and the

967
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: and the team that loses understands they have a big

968
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: uphill climb to find a way in Absolutely the winner,

969
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, the winner might go to the playoffs. Jets,

970
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I think have a great shot if they win. Lions,

971
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, still you have some work to do, but

972
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: they could win out if they win this game. This

973
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: is the from the Lions perspective, this is the toughest

974
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: game they've had since since Dallas and they got whopped.

975
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: There um going on disrespect for the Vikings, but I agree,

976
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean Vegas would agree with me, so I'm fine there.

977
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: I think that this is the toughest match up because

978
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: the Giants Jets defense is so damn good. Even if

979
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Quinnin doesn't play. Now, if he does, that's huge advantage

980
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: for I don't think he's playing with that calf injury.

981
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: That's those things can be tricky. That would be so

982
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: if he doesn't. If he doesn't play, I think that's big.

983
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: But I still think that they got enough horses up

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: front to do some damage. I mean, you saw, but

985
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo was able to do. I mean we saw Dallas

986
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: was able to do before that, and New England obviously

987
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: got after golf and the shutout. So playing on the

988
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: road for the Lions is gonna be turnovers and the

989
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Jets can force some turnovers. Saw us on Amanra is

990
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome to watch. I think I hope they

991
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: travel him. We'll see. But I think for the Lions

992
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: have to win this game if you have any hope,

993
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: and it's a prove it's approve of game mentally beyond

994
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think this is the type of game.

995
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: All the press clippings are coming out. Dan Campbell's Gray

996
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: love the Lions. Look at what they're doing. What a

997
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: cute little team. Win the game, win a big game

998
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: that you need to keep your playoff hopes alive. If

999
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: you come out and put a stinker up and golf

1000
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: throws three interceptions, just burn all the press clippings. Burn

1001
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: them all. Get ready for I mean, Patra is a

1002
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: I think we all get it. We've rooted for teams

1003
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: that have long suffered. But I wouldn't say that the

1004
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Lion's successes turned Patra into a sort of flowery, overly

1005
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: happy individual necessarily. I love the idea of Johnson, Well, yeah,

1006
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: I love the idea of Ben Johnson going against Robert

1007
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Sala's defense. I think that Ben Johnson is someone that

1008
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: no one knew about last summer and now it's like

1009
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: he's become one of the better coordinators in the league.

1010
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: And I think he ran circles around the Vikings last week,

1011
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: and that you were playing a terrible defense. I think

1012
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: part of what was going on there was like that

1013
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: offense matched up so well that Jamison Williams touch Almo

1014
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: wass insane. I think Kevin on it, They're like, I

1015
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: don't think the Lions offense as good as it's been

1016
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: this year. I don't think this is a great matchup

1017
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: um against the Jets in this spot, and I would

1018
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: feel way more confident if Quinnin Williams was playing. But

1019
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: I still think, yes, they can get pressure on Golf.

1020
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: And I think if if Sauce does what he does

1021
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: all season, which is just you know, neutralize the players

1022
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: that he's covering, so that's either gonna take st Brown

1023
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: out or DJ Shark DJ Reid, who has been another

1024
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: big surprise and a great player for the Jets this year.

1025
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna put Golf in a situation where

1026
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: he's got to look elsewhere and then all of a sudden,

1027
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: the internal clocks going off and the pass rush is

1028
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: getting home. I like the Jets keeping the Lions in

1029
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: a you know, around twenty point zone. Now, then you

1030
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: gotta look at the Jets and can the Jets score

1031
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: enough points. We know Detroit's defense is getting better, but

1032
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: it's still not anything close to an elite defense. We're

1033
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna have Mike White in this game, even though

1034
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: it looks like he has a rib injury. They're gonna

1035
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: have him play through it. They only have two touchdowns

1036
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: the Jets in the last two weeks on offense. So

1037
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: can the Jets score twenty plus points? Right? It's week

1038
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: US on weakness when the Jets have the ball in

1039
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: terms of their offensive line versus the Lions pass rush.

1040
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: But the Lions pass rush is trending up. The Jets

1041
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: offensive line, which I think was holding the fort well

1042
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: enough for most of the season, has really collapsed the

1043
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: last few weeks. It's been tough matchups. I am looking

1044
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: forward to see what Ben Johnson kind of pin points

1045
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: on this Jets defense, because the Jets defense is very

1046
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: solid throughout. To me, it's their linebackers and their safety

1047
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: play maybe over the middle of the field, and that's

1048
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: aman Ra st Brown and you gotta protect golf. They

1049
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: haven't looked quite the same when they've been on the road. Uh,

1050
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a bad weather game. Like are

1051
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: they a Dome team, Kevin Patrack, Are they Detroit Dome team?

1052
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: I love it? No, No, I just haven't think Golf

1053
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't had a big game in a in a

1054
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: crappy situation where he wasn't playing a bad defense or

1055
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: in bad weather. Okay, I'm he's you know, he's always been.

1056
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: He is what he he's always been, top twelve fifteen quarterback.

1057
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's what he's gonna be. And when he's

1058
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: buffered by playmaking and an offensive coordinator who's willing to

1059
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: get creative and a good, good offensive line in a

1060
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: run game, he can move the ball. But when that

1061
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: stuff breaks down, and we we saw him get whooped

1062
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: by the Patriots on the road earlier this year, what

1063
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: show me? I think one thing I'd like to say, though,

1064
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I think this is Aidan Hutchinson's chance to put a

1065
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: I am the defensive rookie of the year. We do

1066
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not feeling that I saw us. Yeah,

1067
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that. I'm telling he feels like he's

1068
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: in the mix, and personally, I've seen that out there.

1069
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you've got a reason to be like him. Though,

1070
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: If he has three sacks against so so offensive and

1071
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: he changes the game and gets a forced fumble, I

1072
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: think this is the game. If he wants to win it,

1073
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: that he's got to go do it. And maybe Sauce

1074
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: gets picked on a little bit by Aman Rock. He's

1075
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: played one of the last month, the first month two months,

1076
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: even though he had some stats were not great. And um,

1077
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: we've been talking up golf on this show the last

1078
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: week or so now, but you're right about this. It's

1079
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: the seat you have to close strongly. Have three road games,

1080
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: including back to back games at New York obviously in

1081
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: this game at Carolina, so you know we're gonna learn

1082
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: about golf if he could travel there against better defenses.

1083
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: And UM, my last point on this one, and I

1084
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: think that's a very close game, Patra. I think this

1085
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: goes down to the final possessions. Um, Robert sal has

1086
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: done an incredible job with this team this year for

1087
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: the Jets. And Uh, after Sunday's game, when when you

1088
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: know you saw maybe doubt could be creeping into the room,

1089
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: he again like pushed a button that I that I'd

1090
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 1: like to see. This is what he said about after

1091
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: the loss to the Bills. Uh, and the Jets of

1092
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, lost four or six. Now let's listening. I

1093
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: think I speak for everyone and that we missed an

1094
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna see these guys again. So I just

1095
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: think we are I just like it. They believe in

1096
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: solid they believe in the messages he sends. And I

1097
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have the Jets ready and pumped at

1098
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: the meadow ends on Sundays like two Coach of the

1099
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: Year candidates going head to head like that. That's all

1100
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: narrative driven, so it works. Yes, Justin, I've struggled in

1101
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: the lock competition. I've missed five straight. No you haven't,

1102
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: so that's impossible. This a coin would do better than that, right, Okay,

1103
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: I've outsourced my pick this week because I just can't

1104
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: put it in my own hands. The lovely Sean Kelly

1105
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 1: Lovely has made my pick this week. Dan. I hate

1106
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: to do this to you, but I'm riding with the

1107
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: team of a t L. They gotta have it. I'm

1108
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: locking up the Lions. It's fine. So the guy that's

1109
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: missed five straight games picked the team playing the Jets.

1110
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be upset about the word. Don't put

1111
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: this stink on us, justin? Come on, um, all right,

1112
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: last pick of the first round goes to Greg Rosenthal.

1113
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take the best afternoon game remaining.

1114
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: It's the Tony Romo game. It's Bengals. It's Bucks the

1115
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Bucks not very fun to watch, but this is a

1116
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: big game and I am loving why watcheen the Bengals

1117
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: week after week. We think that Tee Higgins and Tyler

1118
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Boyd could both be back for this game, which would

1119
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: be massive. Uh, because you look at the Bucks defense

1120
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: right now, probably without Vita Vea, probably without Jamal Dean,

1121
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: who has been their best cornerback. Now they do get

1122
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: two or three starters back in the secondary, but that

1123
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: just sort of speaks to what this Bucks defensive season

1124
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: has been. It's like starters going in and out all

1125
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: year and they've been good, not great. And I feel

1126
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: like you have to be great on defense to slow

1127
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: down the way Joe Burrow is playing right now unless

1128
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: something crazy happens like the Browns game where you lose

1129
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 1: your two starters in the first series. So I feel

1130
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: great about them putting about thirty points just make it

1131
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: more miserable for the Bucks. And that's why I'm locking

1132
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: up the Bengals like you could. You could score seventeen

1133
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: points and beat one of the worst offenses we've seen

1134
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: all year in the Bucks. I mean, I think last

1135
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: week was a watershed moment in terms of high embarrassment

1136
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: for a Bucks coaching staff that I think has been

1137
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: a massive disappointment on both sides of the ball and

1138
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: not a lot of accountability there. And it's They're a

1139
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: tough team to watch. And I love the idea that

1140
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: the Bengals, week after week, no matter who it's I

1141
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: it's the Titans, will go be as physical you as

1142
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: you and beat you up. If it's the Chiefs, will

1143
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: find a way to win and score enough points to

1144
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: do that and do it in a different way last

1145
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: week against what they They're just to me are the

1146
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: team in the a f C that is on the

1147
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: rise like they were a year ago. Joe Burrow has

1148
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: been insane over the last month and a half. And

1149
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: what's not to like about the way they match up

1150
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: week after week with anyone? What's the problem in beating

1151
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay? I see none. I do see a problem. Um.

1152
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: I know you can't just say Tom Brady anymore because

1153
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: there's too much mounting evans of this team is just

1154
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: not very good. But they are on the road. Te

1155
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Higgins has a hamstring and that was handled very strangely

1156
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: by Cincinnati yesterday. I think last week, I think he

1157
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: played one snap. Ty Boyd busted up his finger on

1158
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: the first possession of the game. They're at practice. I

1159
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: mean they're not out. Yeah, we you You just hope

1160
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: those guys are themselves and they they're able to play. Um,

1161
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson is likely out there. Yeah, what about blanking

1162
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: on the tight end? Uh, Hay didn't hurt. He's out

1163
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: as well, so that you know they're there. Joe Mixon

1164
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: obviously we've had the concussion issues. There are reasons to

1165
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: think that maybe this team could be limited because of

1166
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: health issues. But yeah, I think it comes down to

1167
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Patrick for me. Um, do you think at some point

1168
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: that the Bucks turn it on and and score points

1169
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: in this Brady Evans thing ever gets worked out? At

1170
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: this point, you're just hoping against hope because everything is

1171
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: telling us it's just not gonna happen. I'm hoping we

1172
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: can get rid of the Bucks. I'm so tired of

1173
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Thank you Primetime games, having to watch him

1174
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: every week. Blah blah blah. It's it's just inefficiency on offense.

1175
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Nobody's on the same page. They can't block worth of dayg.

1176
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Brady is terrified to take a hit. The defense misses

1177
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: more tackles than anybody than in recent memory. It's just

1178
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: not a good operation. I don't know what Byron left

1179
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: which he if he calls one more screen I screen passed,

1180
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: I might burn something down. It's just like get together

1181
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: and have like zoom calls talking about their zoom, their

1182
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: screen pass. No burning in Detroit, though, Patro we're trying

1183
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: to refurbish this neighborhood a profit. No, I'm just saying,

1184
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: like the burned out buildings, that's no longer the case

1185
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: in Detroit. It's just not it's it's it's it's not

1186
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: fun to watch. It's just like any dire situation. Uh,

1187
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: let's throw a screen pass to Chris God. When I

1188
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: think that'll work, it doesn't. It's just there. I don't

1189
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: understand the Evans Brady thing. It's like they now decided

1190
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: to hate each other all year and this is just

1191
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: playing out like is there some drama we don't know about,

1192
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: because it's just ridiculous. Get down there. The defense might

1193
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: be even more disappointing because they are just awful and

1194
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think it's gonna be close. I

1195
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: can't believe Vegas has this has three and a half.

1196
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: I just can't believe like that we're still asking, will

1197
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: it they had some point turning around. This is just

1198
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: who this team is. I worry a tiny bit that

1199
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: they're short passing attack actually could work against this Bengals defense,

1200
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: which sometimes plays off the weaknesses. Is at cornerback there

1201
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: without Hendrickson, which we hadn't mentioned previously on this show,

1202
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: But that's their best defensive lineman. But DJ Reader is

1203
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: the new Vita Vea like he is the best big

1204
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: run stuffer pocket pusher out there in the business. So

1205
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling good for tom Brady and this one.

1206
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: And uh, I do just want to send a shout

1207
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: out to my son who's nicknamed Mini tom Brady at school.

1208
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: He is flying right now, well not as we tape this,

1209
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: but as he's listening to Japan and I said i'd

1210
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: send him a secret message at some point in the podcast.

1211
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: He likes listening to the podcast. So sorry, the Bucks

1212
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: are gonna lose this game, walker, But Mini tom Brady,

1213
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: you're the man, and have a great trip, alright. What

1214
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: a dad Dad of the year. Another great dad is

1215
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick and Patrick I hope that this appearance on

1216
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: some level shows um as an act of contrition from

1217
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: the show that we we did not ask to move

1218
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: into the neighborhood before we did. We should have consulted

1219
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: the real estate council. We would never make a mistake

1220
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: like that. Again, better late than never, I guess. Wow.

1221
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: Man leaving on a good foot here, Patcher. I love you, buddy.

1222
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin Patrick, coming at you. Thank you. We'll

1223
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: be right back after this. All right, welcome back. It's

1224
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota and Greg.

1225
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: Pinch yourself because it's you're picked. I him pinching myself

1226
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: because I'm locking in Tony Romo early or late and

1227
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olson late. That's that's living right

1228
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: in the holiday season. That's Cowboys Jaguars early fun game

1229
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: right now. I loved watching Trevor Lawrence this week. That

1230
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: was the best game of his career. Some of the

1231
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: throws he made during a stretch against the Titans were

1232
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: just unconscious and people be like, oh, well, it's the Titans.

1233
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't care. Like the the improvisation and that he

1234
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 1: made on some of those plays, and then to stick

1235
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: the ball in tight windows and then does the guts

1236
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: to even try some of the throws, like the deep

1237
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: one that day Jones dropped that was the best throw

1238
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: of the game. Man, you're just starting to see it,

1239
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: and you're seeing him play with incredible confidence, and you're

1240
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: hearing him talk with incredible confidence to just that he

1241
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: really felt like the Denver game in London was a

1242
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: turning point and that he's he heard what everyone's been

1243
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: saying and he realized like that was the moment he

1244
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: wanted to stop letting his team down. And he's just

1245
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: playing freer because he realizes like it's not gonna get

1246
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: any worse than that. And you can just see it

1247
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: because the talent was there all along and now I

1248
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: think he's just letting it fly. And this Cowboys defense

1249
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been as good I would say over the last month.

1250
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: They lost Anthony Brown is starting cornerback. That shouldn't crush them.

1251
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're unstoppable. I think this will

1252
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: be a good offensive game. That comment he made about

1253
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: the London game against Denver, it was a turnover that

1254
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: that haunted him at the end, and that was so

1255
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: characteristic of what we had seen in the first couple

1256
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: of months and last year too, where it's like a

1257
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: chances to win the game, and he just talked about

1258
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: the fact that he want that. That flipped a switch,

1259
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: and I think that matters for a young quarterback. And

1260
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: he's surrounded by good coaching this year and it's been

1261
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: such a last year was such a train wreck for him.

1262
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: So this really is almost like players on the team

1263
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: have said, we kind of feel like this is his

1264
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: rookie year because last year was just washed away and

1265
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: the growth we've seen over the last month has to

1266
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: be the most optimistic thing that's happened to the Jaguars

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: since we've ever done the show, but really ever for

1268
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville because you've got a guy now making throws

1269
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: and doing things that were like a play away from

1270
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl, So that who was your quarterback?

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01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Then where's your quarterback? Just say this is organizationally, You've

1272
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: got a coach and a quarterback now. I I think

1273
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: this is a tricky one for Dallas. I mean, I

1274
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: don't really look at the Houston game as a problem

1275
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. What I agree with you, he's doing

1276
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: a little Tim Allen home approvement there to agree with

1277
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: you that was a little I didn't know. I don't

1278
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: know what that was. But there are times in the

1279
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: show where suddenly off in a different universe doing something

1280
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: completely disassociated from No, the Cowboys are here, They're not.

1281
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: They're not playing very well quietly recently, and even I

1282
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: think some of that. There was some cover up, some

1283
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: lipstick on the pig, if you will. That fourth quarter

1284
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: against the Colts. Uh that game they were going back

1285
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: and forth with the bad Indie team and prime time

1286
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: and then Houston, let's face it, they you know, Houston

1287
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: kind of said, hey, we're gonna let you take this.

1288
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna I know, we have first and goal from

1289
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: the one second and goal from the one yard line

1290
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: with a three point lead with three minutes to play,

1291
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: but you know we're gonna do We're gonna just completely

1292
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: implode in our play calling. Give you the ball back

1293
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: and then stop playing the didn't touch the ground, Jeff

1294
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: Tristill going in the wrong direction. That you're right, save that.

1295
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: And now I don't think this is not Sometimes this

1296
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: is the way we look at it as people just

1297
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: fought football. Oh yeah, the Cowboys could go to Jacksonville

1298
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: and think, oh, we'll be the Jaguars, but they know

1299
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: they're watching the tape and they're saying, oh, man, this

1300
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: team can play and watch Jacksonville sneaky when Duval gets

1301
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: pumped up. That's a pretty good home field advantage they

1302
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: have there. So I think the Cowboys are in for

1303
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: a real fight here. I think this is a one

1304
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: score game. And everything we are seeing about, um, everything

1305
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: that we're seeing about Trevor Lawrence points to Yes, this

1306
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: is happening. It's happening. He's he's making this leap. He's

1307
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: even beating the You can't even write to making the

1308
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: leap article on Trevor Lawrence next summer because I think

1309
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: he's doing it now and justin like, this is one

1310
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: of the gotta have a team's Obviously, the Jaguars right

1311
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: now are sound the alarm it's got to have it alarm.

1312
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: They are, well, that's aggressive. They're five and eight, and

1313
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, why do they gotta have it? Well again,

1314
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, you look at the Titans. Of the

1315
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Titans lose this week, the Jaguars win, it's a one

1316
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: game difference in the standings. They play each other in

1317
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: week eighteen, and oh, by the way, we saw what

1318
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: happened last week. Jacksonville has the tiebreaker, so if they

1319
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: win in Week eighteen, all they have to do is

1320
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: tie the Titans and they could steal this division. And

1321
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Trevor Lawrence is starting a playoff game.

1322
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: These are night and this is nightmare fueld that I'm

1323
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: not trying to pump into your heart justin, but I

1324
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: already know it's already in there. You're worried about it.

1325
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: So they all kind of hinges on the Jaguars kind

1326
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: of stealing quote unquote this game. And I think Doug Peterson,

1327
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: who's a Super Bowl winning coach, is saying that exact

1328
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: same message, like it's their boys, but we gotta go

1329
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: get If they do all that, it's because I think

1330
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: they're the better team than the Titans. Right. Another two

1331
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: organizations heading in very different directions of this game, and

1332
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: we should mention that the Cowboys lost Terren Steele. They're

1333
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: starting right tackle for this season. Since we last talked,

1334
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: he's had a really nice season, but they are getting

1335
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: Tyrone Smith back. It sounds like maybe this week at

1336
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: left tackle, and you're gonna have Jason Peters not at

1337
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: his normal position, right tackle. So just some big changes

1338
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: for them. You said, Jason Peters, he retired five years.

1339
01:06:55,160 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: He is back, he is unbelievably. Tyler smith S somethod

1340
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: we saw him his his hamstring was exploding in training camp.

1341
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: That's just saying keep an eye in there. And they

1342
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: lost Anthony Brown there starting corner of the previous week.

1343
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: Hold on also in the Coults Can you mentioned scored

1344
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: thirty three points in a quarter, And I do like

1345
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: what Dak Prescott did on that final drive to win

1346
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: last week. Like they can be very explosive at times.

1347
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: The first three quarters of that game. Not so hot

1348
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: all four quarters last week. I'm just saying seven out

1349
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: of eight quarters again, hear you. Literally the two worst

1350
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: teams in the league again though, like they're slump is

1351
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: different than other times its slumps. You can have the

1352
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys sometimes I don't trust them. I don't know what.

1353
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I'm here sitting here defending the Cowboys

1354
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: and you're not. Because that's a massive character switch. It

1355
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: doesn't define my character the cow of course it does not.

1356
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't That's That's not how I meant that something's

1357
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: going on. Just like it's like I can break here.

1358
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: What's up? I don't know? All right, that was the

1359
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. All right, let's get to

1360
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: the next game. I don't know. Why is this happening

1361
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: on on national television. Let's let's dig into the next game.

1362
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: I am up. I'm just Switzerland. Pittsburgh at Carolina. I

1363
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: just like when Mark says it's on national television, like, well,

1364
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: it's just there's only three channels here, NBC, CBS, like

1365
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: we're on Sunday. When they gets assumed that they know

1366
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: what is where. People are listening to the podcast for

1367
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: what it's worth, and we love them all. Very good,

1368
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: very good. You've done it again, Greg, Pittsburgh at Carolina. Oh,

1369
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: sound the alarm again, because the Panthers gotta have it,

1370
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: got to have our Now we're in the future. The

1371
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: Panthers are five and eight. The Panthers are looking to

1372
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: do kind of like if you look at the a

1373
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: C South the NFC South, their mirrors of each other

1374
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 1: in some ways, because everyone was expecting the Tides just

1375
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: to take care of business and win that division. Everyone's

1376
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: expecting the Bucks take here of that division. But guess

1377
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: what those two teams. They don't look very good right now.

1378
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: In the Buck's case, they haven't looked good all season.

1379
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: Uh So the Panthers have a chance here, but they

1380
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: have to take care of business this week. And I

1381
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: think that they will because I think the Panthers our

1382
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: team playing with a lot of confidence, just the way

1383
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: they bullied the Seattle Seahawks on the road last week,

1384
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: through their running game going over two yards on the ground. Um,

1385
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: not asking Sam Donald to do too much, and and

1386
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: and leaning on what worked and then having your defense,

1387
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:38,919
Speaker 1: uh carry them home from there. Um. The Panthers against

1388
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers team, can he picket in or out? I

1389
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I like their chances here. So they're splitting

1390
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: reps the Steelers at quarterback this week between Mitchell Drabinsky

1391
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph. Never understood the splitting reps thing in

1392
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: the middle of the regular season. You gotta know who

1393
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: you're starting, right, They're gonna play them both. I guess

1394
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: Trabinsky through a not interceptions last week, that they're thinking

1395
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: of giving Rudolph a shot. My initial instinct was the

1396
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: same as yours, Dan in terms of the Panthers winning

1397
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: this game, especially going against the Steelers rush defense that

1398
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: got steamrolled last week really against Baltimore. But then it

1399
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of that Steelers Ravens game where

1400
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: everyone picked the Steelers in that game, even though it's

1401
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: like a coin flip game. And of course the Steelers lost,

1402
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: and now everyone's gonna be picking the Panthers this week

1403
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, and yet I still think it's

1404
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: a coin flip game. The Steelers have plenty of good

1405
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: players here, and they're just like two ugly type of teams,

1406
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if Mason Rudolph comes in

1407
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: and actually plays fairly well. It's not like having Donald

1408
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: is some great quarterback advantage. No. I think that's the

1409
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: thing is, like we saw Sam Donald basically played around

1410
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: like they were just doing everything that could not really

1411
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: put the game in Sam donald chance. When they got

1412
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: a net goal line situation and had them throw four times,

1413
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: it went terribly. I I think if you can if

1414
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: you can put Sam Donald in his situations where you've

1415
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: got T. J. Watt and other people making life tough

1416
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: for him, it throws Caroline off. They run the ball

1417
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: so well though, That's what I love about when they

1418
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: get in these grooves where they're hammering people on the ground,

1419
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: you start to believe in the Panthers. If they can

1420
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: if they can stay in that kind of font, that

1421
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of mode, I think they have a chance here.

1422
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that that Derek Brown said

1423
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: that bearded face Sam Donald because we noticed his beard.

1424
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: He said that that version, the bearded faced Sam Donald

1425
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: is a lot more chill than the clean shaven Sam Donald.

1426
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: So you never know what you're gonna get with this

1427
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: version of Donald. It does, it's the I think it

1428
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: matches where he is in his career. Now. That's a backup, grizzled,

1429
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: backup beard. Um, and I support it. Um. I don't

1430
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: did they I'm interested Donald having to throw the balls.

1431
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know were they hiding Donald? There was

1432
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: a running game working so well last week that is like,

1433
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: we're not gonna mess with this, and why would they?

1434
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: They just ran the ball repeatedly against Seattle in the

1435
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter because I don't think the plan is let's

1436
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: have him go throw the ball forty times and take

1437
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: our foot off the gas on the ground. No. I

1438
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: don't think so either, But I I just push them

1439
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: back a little bit that they were hiding, and I

1440
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: think it was just working. So we'll see what it

1441
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: looks like when t. J. Watt is coming at him.

1442
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna have They're gonna have some real

1443
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: momentum building here if they can beat the Steelers. And yes,

1444
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: they'll be keeping an eye on what's going on with

1445
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Mason Rudolph thing. How many years

1446
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: do we have to be subjected to people from inside

1447
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers building telling us that Mason Rudolph is someone

1448
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: that you know, deserves his chance. How many years are

1449
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: we in the how could that be the plan? Like?

1450
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: How many years has been going on? Four years? Five years,

1451
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: five years? Half a decade? Like do they not know yet?

1452
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: I think they just feel like give him a chance? Um, Mark,

1453
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: you are up? All right? I'll go Eagles at Bears?

1454
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean yeah, I mean that I'm surprised

1455
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: of still sitting here at this point. I for me though,

1456
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: it's this Eagles team. I just did. I enjoy watching

1457
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: them so much. What they did against the Giants was

1458
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: just absolute and a total detonation. And they're just so powerful,

1459
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: they and they're they're the opposite of like the teams

1460
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: that have to do one thing to win. Like the

1461
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: Panthers we just talked about, they can hurt you in

1462
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: so many different ways. And some of the throws that

1463
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: hurts has made like you know, like I doing the

1464
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: QB and next early in the season was like, oh yeah,

1465
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: it hurts his mobile And people aren't watching Eagles, you

1466
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: don't realize how much he's grown as a passer. And

1467
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: I think that applies also to Justin Fields doing that

1468
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: art that column. No one gets more hate on a

1469
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: weekly basis than people saying Justin Fields is not a

1470
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: top twelve, not a top ten type of figure. At

1471
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: this point, he's just a runner. It's like if you're

1472
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: watching Bears games. His arm is changing, it's developing, he's

1473
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: making throws. And I think that the quarterback matchup alone

1474
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: makes this so juicy because the Eagles, for all their strengths,

1475
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: when they've gone up against QB rushes, they have been

1476
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: they've ranked last and success rate in the league this

1477
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: year against that and QB runs in essentially yards per carrious.

1478
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: So it's there's a chance for Justin Fields to do

1479
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: Justin Fields type things, and he's gonna have to have

1480
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: a chance in this game because their defense is a mess.

1481
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: That's why it's kind of the perfect match of the

1482
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: Eagles get to try to work on something that they

1483
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: struggle at. They have played better run defense overall over

1484
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: the last month after bottoming out against Washington, They've been

1485
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: about average over the last month since then. But it's

1486
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: different playing justin Field, So you get to try to

1487
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: play maybe the most challenging running quarterback in the league

1488
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: right now, justin fields try to slow that down in

1489
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: a good running game with Montgomery, and they've actually called

1490
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: some pretty creative plays in their offensive line. But you

1491
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: probably don't have to really worry about losing the game

1492
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: or anything like that because you're going up against the

1493
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: Bears and you're gonna put thirty on the great to

1494
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: be a team that's just like, we know we're gonna win.

1495
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: We're just gonna work on a few things in this game.

1496
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: Are you hearing some of this uh chatter out there

1497
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts and maybe he shouldn't be getting as

1498
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: much credit because it's the system and the team more

1499
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: than the player. Do we have do we have the sound?

1500
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: By the way, we have Jordan my lot of left

1501
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: tackle for the Eagles, responding to Michael Parsons the great

1502
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys pass rusher, who um was going down that road?

1503
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: Uh and kind of maybe pushing back on Hurts being

1504
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: a superstar quarterback. Here's what my lot I had to

1505
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: say in response. Yeah, I'm gona worry about the Chicago

1506
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: bas this week, mate, worry about his industry two or

1507
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: even pig a lot. I don't know how part of

1508
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: my language. Just just worry about you got this week.

1509
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: That's how we're doing here. I'll gon't worry about any

1510
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: of us, Tomas. Anybody said, that's just how we fund

1511
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: this business. You've got Chicago Bears, Chicago Puss, not the

1512
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: Chicago Mica Parsons. Every team needs a feights the Australian.

1513
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: That's my takeaway. Friend. It helps if these like six

1514
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: eight and three d seventy pounds and moves like like

1515
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: a track athlete. Uh yeah, I don't see anyway is there.

1516
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,440
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine barring something unforeseen and unfortunate. Um,

1517
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: the Eagle's not putting up like camera. The Bears are healthier.

1518
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, they got back I think two starters,

1519
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,839
Speaker 1: maybe three, the secondary Brisker and Gordon. There there two rookies,

1520
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: so that will help them put up a fight. But no,

1521
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: they have no pass rush, and yeah, you mentioned it

1522
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: hurts thrown with anticipation. It's like every week. Did you

1523
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: want to add to that. I'm sorry no, I think

1524
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: I was excited to hear the snake sound to me.

1525
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: All Right, well, I'm gonna go. You know, you pick

1526
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: these games out to get one that's gonna be. I'm

1527
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 1: thinking hopefully a little bit more of a wipeout Chiefs

1528
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: of Texans. I actually found the Texans enjoyable a lot

1529
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: to watch last week, and I'm glad they didn't show

1530
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: it totally shoot down the concept of running back the

1531
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: Mills slash uh drisk All two quarterback platoon, which I

1532
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,480
Speaker 1: think threw Dallas off. I mean I mentioned on Sunday

1533
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: it threw everyone off because I was trying to figure

1534
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: out on Twitter what's going on here? Why are they

1535
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: doing this? And like no one quit what there wasn't

1536
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: an injury. Was just like, we're gonna use both and

1537
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: when Driskills on the field, we're obviously gonna run it.

1538
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of that will happen this

1539
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: week against the Chiefs. I kind of would like to see, though,

1540
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: Kansas City go out and have a really crisp game

1541
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: on offense. Um, I mean they're having to do things

1542
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: differently game to game Mahomes that, you know, I don't

1543
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: really when Mahomes has a it wasn't a bad game,

1544
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: but he made a couple of bad throws last week.

1545
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: He also did some incredibly circus act like wonderful things.

1546
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: So that's sort of like the worst version of the Homes.

1547
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't really mind that at all. I think it's

1548
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: just like it would be nice to go see Kansas

1549
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: City drop a hammer on someone as they go down

1550
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: the stretch. Run here. Yeah. I got a note uh

1551
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: from our friend at a t N lock ups this

1552
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: week reminding us of the win lost totals that we

1553
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: did and you know, some some we've been right, some

1554
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: we aren't. Mark's over four and a half. Texans is

1555
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: on the line this week officially will be eliminated here

1556
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: without a win, and Dan I had the Chiefs I

1557
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: believe over maybe I did, I can't even remember at

1558
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: this point, and they'll officially get over there over. It's

1559
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: crazy to think back the ten and a half was

1560
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: like the line for Kansas City so even though they've

1561
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: had some up down West all the summer hype around

1562
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: that division that well, and we didn't know what the

1563
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: Chiefs would be, you know, minus Tyreek kill, et cetera.

1564
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: They've they've worked that out, um and you know what

1565
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned. You know, the Chiefs are due to just

1566
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: drop a hammer on someone. They did last week. They

1567
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: were winning twenty seven nothing in the second quarter against

1568
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: the Broncos and then somehow let the Broncos get back

1569
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: in that game. And defense never had multiple opportunities in

1570
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: the second half to take the lead in that game,

1571
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: believe it or not, before Mahomes and company regrouped and

1572
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: got that um extra score. Did you do Smith Schuster?

1573
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: That kind of put that game away. But you didn't

1574
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: come out of the game being like, oh, yeah, Cheeves

1575
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: they are They're fully formed right now, son, Can you

1576
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: trust the defense? It's not gonna be a problem this week.

1577
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce now is out for the Texans. Who's one

1578
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: of the only watchable guys in that offense. I don't

1579
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: have any interest in watching Houston ever again this season.

1580
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: I'll only do it from a professional standpoint. Otherwise, this

1581
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: team can go away to figure out what they are

1582
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: and at Nico Collins is unlikely to play. Brandon Cooks

1583
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: probably won't play. So like if you're Davis Mills or

1584
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: drisk All, like who's who's on the field with you,

1585
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: Chris or I don't know? It's act I doubt don't

1586
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: have any uh fantasy implications because no one could have

1587
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: possibly had him in their line of plastic. But he

1588
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: went ten for one fifty. I do like that the

1589
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs and this is a good game for it can

1590
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: finish games running the ball a little better this year. Pacheco,

1591
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: I think can do that. And this is a game

1592
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: where it's like, don't don't ask Patrick Mollhams to throw

1593
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: at thirty five times. You don't need to another quote

1594
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: unquote or quote star close quote in decline in the

1595
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: Seth Walder piece that you were pushing back on Greg earlier.

1596
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: Um Brandon Cooks who his pop the hood numbers in

1597
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: terms of his route running and impact this season, it's

1598
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: not just the necessarily the quarterback play, it's his ability

1599
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: to gain separation. And you wonder, I don't want to

1600
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: call the man out because I don't know the man,

1601
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: but where's his effort level out after that post trade

1602
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: deadline tweet. Is he really you're getting the best of

1603
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks? So even if he's not there, like what,

1604
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: he hasn't given them anything. He's literally their team captain.

1605
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: And then they stripped of it. That's pretty rare to

1606
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: just like I don't know if they see off the

1607
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: chest like I think you got new Jersey. Yeah, you

1608
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: have to go give that back to the people back there,

1609
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: and they have to take they have to sew it off.

1610
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what they did. They sew it off

1611
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: Gregg in the past life definitely a seamstress. Oh well,

1612
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: this is easy. I just sew it off. I just

1613
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: couldn't think of the word of it. I still don't know.

1614
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: Just detach it, I don't know. Detach undo, the undo,

1615
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: the sew job. All right, let's move to I gotta

1616
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: grab a late game. So, I mean again, do I

1617
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: need to keep watching the Patriots every week? I kind

1618
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: of do. It's my job. It's more frustrating when it's

1619
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: in prime time. Um, but I on a Sunday, sure,

1620
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Patriots? Who Um do I have

1621
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: them as they gotta have it? I mean I think

1622
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: so this is very important that I don't have it,

1623
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: but they're they're the most gotta have it in the league.

1624
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't get it. What are you?

1625
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: Where are they? My point is, I think they'll lose

1626
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: this game if I had to guess, But if the

1627
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: season's over, if they lose it, they got the Dolphins,

1628
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: Bengals and Bills next. Yeah, okay, let's do it. Let's

1629
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: give it to him. Yeah, I think seven and six

1630
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: coming off a fairly ugly win on Monday Night. Great

1631
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: job by the defense, of course, um getting after it,

1632
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: punishing Colt McCoy um. Now they get the Raiders, and

1633
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: we obviously know everything about the Raiders as a tragic outfit.

1634
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 1: Last time we saw them, they were their whole season

1635
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: was bursting into flames. That said, I hit it again,

1636
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: hit it again, because the Raiders do gotta have it

1637
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: because they have eight losses. I still think. I still

1638
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: believe not in the Raiders, but I believe that nine

1639
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: wins can get you a wild card spot. So reason

1640
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: had man that loss was a killers was a killer.

1641
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: It was all set up. That's why was on one

1642
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: with that, because they seem to be well set up,

1643
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: but then they blew that game, uh, in crushing fashion.

1644
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: So here are two teams that aren't obviously overly impressive

1645
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: for different reasons, but they're both in the mix of

1646
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: Patriots actually right now sit in the seventh spot. I mean,

1647
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: the Raiders are owing four this season in games where

1648
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: they have led by thirteen points, and that obviously well

1649
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: that's a terrible mistake to have. But like that Rams collapse,

1650
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: that's who the Raiders are, and it's I literally I

1651
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: don't think they got to have anything. I get where

1652
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: you're coming from with the you know, you went out

1653
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: and maybe everything else happens to you mathematically have a

1654
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: nice January. But the idea that I'm stilling wrong. I'm

1655
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: not saying that they I believe them as a playoff

1656
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: team at this one have it. They didn't have it.

1657
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm not getting anything wrong. I just I don't think

1658
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: you're saying that. I just I simply am not paying

1659
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: attention to the Raiders playoff chances at this point at all.

1660
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Wake me up if if things change, So this is

1661
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: this could be a very different Raiders team, though both

1662
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: Darren Waller and Hunter Renfro appear to be on track

1663
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: to come off. I R and play against the Patriots,

1664
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: and I think this Raiders offense, even though they've had

1665
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: some hiccups, are a reminder of what the Patriots are

1666
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: missing because they're cohesive. They're an old school nine eighties

1667
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: with a fullback, power running attack. They're better than average offense,

1668
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: you know, with a mid level quarterback, whereas the Patriots

1669
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: are a terrible offense with a mid level quarterback. In

1670
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: my mind, I think mac Jones is better than what

1671
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: they've shown, and they've got terrible vibes. That game on

1672
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: Monday night was the most depressing game that a team

1673
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: has won, and I don't know how long or at

1674
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: least a Patriots team as one. That game convinced me.

1675
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: That game convinced me this team is done for because

1676
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: they're having to try to convince each other and themselves

1677
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: that they actually support their coaching staff when they're openly rebelling.

1678
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: And they happen to win that game because they were

1679
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: playing the Cardinals, a team that's an even bigger mess.

1680
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they win any more games.

1681
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: I think they could go and four down the stretch.

1682
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: I know the defense and they might get Christian Barmower

1683
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: back is good enough that they'll they'll win this game

1684
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: on their own. It's it's certainly possibly never, But I

1685
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: think they lose this game. Yeah, we've never seen a

1686
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: Belichick led team with this much in house angst. And

1687
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: it's interesting that it's McDaniels first Belichick, except that also

1688
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: isn't because both of these teams are hard to watch.

1689
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: They are. And I can't even really get on mac

1690
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Jones at all for showing frustration his career being thrown

1691
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: down the two. Yeah, that he's been putting a very

1692
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: bad spot here. And uh, the one thing you cannot

1693
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: do when you're a play callers, you can't be getting

1694
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the plays in late. You put at the entire team

1695
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: in a tough situation. I can't even imagine trying to

1696
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: do that. So I'm not saying like it's easy. It

1697
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: must be incredibly stressful to be a play caller on

1698
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: the sideline and you have to like keep on firing

1699
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: things out in the headset with a clock running. But

1700
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: it looks like Patricia might be in over his head

1701
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: in that realm as well. And that's what you saw

1702
01:24:55,240 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: um Jones pushing back against. Actually, I thought Joan has

1703
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: made some nice plays on Monday Night when given the

1704
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: opportunity and one off platform, I thought he showed some things.

1705
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I think he's playing with more confidence obviously than he

1706
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: was earlier in the season. And you could put that

1707
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: on Bell Chick too. I don't think Bill check is

1708
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: having a great year. Uh the way he handled things

1709
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: with Zappy Bailey or Billy Zappy who wasn't I don't

1710
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: remember anymore. But now mac Jones doesn't have to worry

1711
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: about that, and you could tell he I think he

1712
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: wants us to be his team in his offense, UM,

1713
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: but it feels like he's being held back at this point.

1714
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't want it to be with this coaching stuff.

1715
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Though line has collapsed, the running game has collapsed. I

1716
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: think the Raiders defensive line is playing much better. I

1717
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: think it's a tough match. I think I really think

1718
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: the Raiders are favored in this game where they should be. UM.

1719
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and we will finish

1720
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: the draft. Raiders are favored by one. Are you ready?

1721
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday triple header on NFL Network. First, the

1722
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: Colts will just then the Ravens space the Browns, and

1723
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: the Dolphins take on the Bills in prime time back back.

1724
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday Showdown triple header Saturday, starting in one

1725
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: only on NFL Network. All right, let's close this thing out. Greg,

1726
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 1: you got tupics. That's not fair. That's how this works.

1727
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: That's that's the game. Well, just to surprise people, I'm

1728
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: gonna not leave the Broncos game for last. Let's just

1729
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. It's kind of like

1730
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: you're at the dinner table. There's one vegetable maybe your

1731
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: mom put out there. If you as as a child

1732
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: that you're just like, let let's pish it first and

1733
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: get to the good stuff. Let's get rid of this.

1734
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: And that's Cardinals. That was That's what I do, or

1735
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: I did as a kid, and that's what my daughter

1736
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: Alice does too. She always eats the stuff she doesn't like. First.

1737
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: Let's I'll give you this different parallel luxuriant lucky charms,

1738
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: a great cereal. Even no matter what age you are,

1739
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: you eat all the oats first, and you leave all

1740
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: the mushrooms in the milk to the end. And then

1741
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 1: it's then there's mushrooms in my lucky mushrooms marshmallows just

1742
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: like the grossest food I've ever imagined mushrooms and milks.

1743
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Not sorry, Greg, where were you? I mean, I don't

1744
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: apologize the Cardinals. Broncos is the soggy lucky Charms without

1745
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the marsh material of games. Totally pointless. I watched. Doesn't

1746
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: have to happen, Yes, I contractually I think so. But

1747
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: who's complaining? Like if you wrestle, also would be happy.

1748
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: He's like hurrying back to get off concussion protocol. He's

1749
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: back at practice. It looks like he's on track to return.

1750
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: But it's like, I think he'd be happy just canceled

1751
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: the game. He doesn't want to see Brett ripping out there. Um,

1752
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: but I think he'd be fine with a week off here. J. J.

1753
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Watt would be disappointed. He's really getting a lot of

1754
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: airtime because Hard Knocks doesn't know what else to do.

1755
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: They're just like hanging out with Heart with J. J. Watt.

1756
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 1: We should talk about what's going on with the car.

1757
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Their general manager, Steve Kim, has taken a leave of

1758
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: absence now uh connected to a type of medical issue

1759
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: or a personal issue that we don't have more. Red

1760
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: also said they legally could not give details. They put

1761
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: that in the statement, which to dry your own conclusions,

1762
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: and uh, it does you know that this happening days

1763
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: after Kyler Murray blows out his knee And if you

1764
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: just if you just go through everything that's happened with

1765
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals um since last since the offseason, it's outrageous,

1766
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: all the drama around Kyler. Obviously, you had multiple officials

1767
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: and coaches involved off the field shenanigans that led to

1768
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: them not even shenanigans, crimes um or um inappropriate behavior

1769
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: that led to them leaving the team. You had the

1770
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: team itself flopping, You had DeAndre Hopkins getting suspended, and

1771
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: then you have Kyler blown out his knee and now

1772
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: Come disappearing. And when we talked about it on the

1773
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Tuesday Show that, uh, Cliff Kingsbury is is this the

1774
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: end for him? And I was like, I wonder if

1775
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: maybe he gets a little bit of a past the

1776
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: rest of the year and then they he gets one

1777
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: more shot. Man. I don't feel that way at all

1778
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: now because I think who knows with Kim, but it

1779
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: would make sense now the Come has stepped away and

1780
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: Kyler is out for a year at least, and the

1781
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: team stinks and has not done anything in years since

1782
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Kingsbury has been there that they just it's time to

1783
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: blow it up. Yeah, I think I think it's heading

1784
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: in that direction. And it's funny because our friend Jason's

1785
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Almalt leads off our show, is a Cardinals fan, and

1786
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: yesterday he texted me because you know, I'm a Call

1787
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: McCoy guy. And then they got David Blow. They picked

1788
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: him off the Vikings practice school up Press exactly, so

1789
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: the newsletter is coming back into action. They got Call

1790
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: McCoy and David Blow in the QB room and so

1791
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: it's Alwalt said, listen, man, it's it. I know things

1792
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: seem a little even with the Cardinals right now, but

1793
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: you've got to come over here and support them. That's

1794
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: it's you're new team to pick up. And so I thought, well, listen,

1795
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: I left the Titans bandwagon according to Justin's fans over there,

1796
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: and uh, five minutes later, I mean maybe five or

1797
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: ten minutes later, the steam time thing happened. So it's like,

1798
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I should keep doing this anymow. And

1799
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: now they're going to lose to the Broncos. Yeah, but

1800
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: you know the other way to look at it, Mark

1801
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: is that this team could not really get worse at

1802
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: this point. So even like one win the rest of

1803
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: the season, you're back in business. Baby, Well consider it.

1804
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 1: I just I told him. I just said sorry basically.

1805
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: So I want to see Nathaniel Hackett's evil gateigue get

1806
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 1: one win. I don't know if you noticed he changed

1807
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: facial hair about a month ago and now has sort

1808
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: of an evil looking good greg Williams. Yeah, one one

1809
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: happy moment, they'll get it. This Randy Gregory back, by

1810
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: the way. That's good. And speaking of Greek tragedies, which

1811
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: is the Cardinal season, you know, Russell Wilson finally moving

1812
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: the ball with regularity and mounting an epic comeback and

1813
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: then getting knocked out literally at the one yard line

1814
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,480
Speaker 1: is sums up everything for that team. Alright, one more game, Greggy,

1815
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: let's go so excited. I got the best rivalry in football.

1816
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: It's Falcons and Saints. I have covered approximately eight percent

1817
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 1: of these games over the last ten years on this podcast,

1818
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: and I missed it in Week one. And you might say, oh,

1819
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: who cares? That ended up being a really crazy, fun

1820
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: game where Jamis Winston comes back from a couple of

1821
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Ago It Weirdly, UH is

1822
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: pretty influential in this NFC South race because if the

1823
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Falcons had that, they would be in first place. This

1824
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: is a gotta have a game, obviously for the Saints,

1825
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: but definitely for the Falcons to try to get back

1826
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: in the mix. Saints would officially be eliminated by the

1827
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: way with the loss here. The Falcons, I think they

1828
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: could do something under Desmond Ritter. I know they're underdogs

1829
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,799
Speaker 1: in this game, and I know the Saints are returning

1830
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: everyone suddenly, like Pete Werner, Marshall Lattimore, like everyone is

1831
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,799
Speaker 1: coming back for their team this week. I think Desmond

1832
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Ritter and this Falcons team have a little more verve,

1833
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: a little more hood spat, and I think the be

1834
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: able to exert their will on the ground against the Saints.

1835
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: And if anything could get Dennis Allen in trouble, and

1836
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: there's some talk from the top columnists in the in

1837
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the City there Jeff Duncan this week that Sean Payton

1838
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: would be open to a return, which is hilarious because

1839
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: he would have to get Dennis Allen fired for that

1840
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: to happen. If anything's gonna get Dennis Allen fired, it's

1841
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: losing to these Falcons, Peyton wanted to come back, what

1842
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 1: wants to come back? They're like, yeah, okay, I guess

1843
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: uh to see them get healthy. But they're like my

1844
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: version of the Raiders for you Mark, or just like

1845
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't care. I know this has got to have

1846
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: it the game, but they've been so disappointing all year

1847
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: long that I just I struggled to get Falcons. I

1848
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 1: feel like that rookie quarterback making his starting debut, you

1849
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: gotta there's a little juice there, obviously, But these are

1850
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 1: the two South teams that, like, you know, the Panthers,

1851
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: you could talk yourself into a little bit more. These

1852
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: teams just feel to me a little bit more on

1853
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: the side of the road in a ditch. And well,

1854
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: I differ a little bit, like I agree. I think

1855
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 1: the Saints they you know, the car's going on the highway,

1856
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: you open the door, you kick the Saints out. That's

1857
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: where they are. But the Falcons um if Desmond Ritter

1858
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: provides a spark, I would have liked to see him

1859
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: in there earlier, because Mariota just seemed to cost them

1860
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: in similar fashion week after week, and Ritter is someone

1861
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: that Lancer Line, our friend and draft nick compared to

1862
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and and um very intelligent, quick processing quarterback.

1863
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a super strong arm, and he's not

1864
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: necessarily a running quarterback, but he is mobile and so

1865
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: it's like he kind of fits that offense. I think

1866
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: they picked him for a reason. And I just think

1867
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith is quietly one of the better kind

1868
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,799
Speaker 1: of QB coaches out there. I mean, I think Mariota

1869
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: is just Mariota, but I I think that they I

1870
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: don't know why they waited so long, but if this

1871
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: is a team that when they run the ball, well,

1872
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't like their defense, but if Ritter can just

1873
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: not turn the ball over and add a little bit

1874
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 1: here and there, they're an interesting team to me, much

1875
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: more still than watching the Saints. Well, and very possibly

1876
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: tied for first. If they win this game and the

1877
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: bucksls the Bengals, they're tied for first. Gotta have it,

1878
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: ye got that division? Man? I mean, I feel like

1879
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven teams had to have it in this show.

1880
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: I think I think it was. It was started as seven.

1881
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: I believe it started seven. And then once we start

1882
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 1: just including everyone that anyone thetically alive. I kind of

1883
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 1: highlighted seven teams where it felt like it had a

1884
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: little like juice to it, But then once you you

1885
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: get like the Saints involved, it's like, oh, yeah, that's

1886
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: technically true. The Raiders. Yeah, I guess technically Saints fans

1887
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it because they want this season

1888
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: to be over. But if they won this game, and

1889
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: like I said, the Bucks lost, they're went back. Yeah.

1890
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm just saying it's this is the

1891
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that just stars. They're just facts. Facts. Yeah,

1892
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 1: that's true. That's factual content coming from Greg ros And

1893
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe the Falcons get that. Our quarterback just quit on

1894
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: us bump, you know, yeah, went to went opportnity QB

1895
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: opportunity leave bump. I just noticed the entire NFC South's

1896
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 1: exactly gutive twenty four to negative thirty two points on

1897
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: the season point differentials. It looks like if there, I mean,

1898
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: every once in a while, ever a few years, there's

1899
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 1: a team there's a division where just their very inclusion

1900
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: in the postseason cheapens the entire thing. And that's what's

1901
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: that's what NFC Salth is going to give us. An

1902
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: FC South is getting there too. We could have an

1903
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: eight and nine years, but I can talk up into

1904
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: the ether and then that's a I mean, let's face it,

1905
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: both these teams are probably playing Saturday, right, Saturday opener? Yeah,

1906
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: not against each other. Get them out of the way,

1907
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: or maybe they have to split them up because otherwise

1908
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 1: it really we're gonna get an a f C South

1909
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: champion and an NFCY South champion Saturday Sunday, which we

1910
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: just gotta work. Maybe just for the London game time

1911
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: here if you're in the States, he's just it's like

1912
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Falcons commanders from London, six am kickoff. Okay, that's fine,

1913
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: all right? Anythink else? Anybody want to add? Now? What

1914
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: a what a time to be alive holiday season? How

1915
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: about Patrick? He was pretty fired up. I love that

1916
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't changed. I knew I would have bet on

1917
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: any I don't have any possessions, but things that I

1918
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: owned that he would have been upset with us, And

1919
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: yes he was and I and I like that. I

1920
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: liked his honesty. I didn't like as much. I thought,

1921
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 1: maybe you know, it's his his heart. I thought it

1922
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: would have been warmed by this Lions team. But I

1923
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: think he's still waiting for the bottom to fall out.

1924
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: But that's I think we patras patra and that's what

1925
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: our friend Freeland, who was a die hard Lions fan too.

1926
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: She's not ready to fully give over either. I get it.

1927
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: There's still six and seven and they've just been beaten

1928
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: down for twenty years that they were enjoying it but not.

1929
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 1: But they're not seven, but they were one and six.

1930
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 1: That's a little different. That's and they were never the

1931
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: team of a t L before. We've brought the magic. Well,

1932
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 1: let's go Lions. This week, I said, I've taken a

1933
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: leave of absence like Marcus Mariotta. I am on paternity

1934
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: leave from the team of a t L with the

1935
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Jets uh involved, But I still there will be. I'll

1936
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: look at this way. Even if the Jets lose, there

1937
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: is a bright side, the Lions playing relevant January football

1938
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: potentially gotta have it. It's charitable of you. I don't

1939
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 1: want it to happen. You're going down Detroit heat it

1940
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: all right? Thank you for watching, listening, see us on

1941
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: Sunday Night and the Friday Fun Show. He the call

1942
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Speaker 1: s