WEBVTT - ​Raw Meets World Part 1 (Ethan Page & Sol Ruca) 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:26.400 Well, we are back for some more wrestling extravaganzas is extravaganzas. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:32.000 That is that appropriate to extrava extravaganzas extravaganzi. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:32.760 Extra. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:34.720 That's perfect. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:35.440 I love that. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.840 We are here at the Intuit Dome for WWE RAW 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:47.400 in Los Angeles. Very exciting. I am thrilled about the 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.199 interviews that we are doing today. We're going to do 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.920 two episodes with two interviews each. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.840 So are so four episode? I'm doing the math four episodes, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:57.680 two interviews each. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.480 That's good. Okay, Wow you when did you learn too? 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.080 Plus two? Uh? 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.520 When I was this many? Okay, so I was pretty happy. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.440 Yeah, it's pretty good. What are are you? Are you? 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.400 Are you going to the show tonight? Are going to row? 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.759 I am not going tonight. I know you're going this evening. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.640 Are you bringing the childre? You're bringing the. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:18.640 Children to go this evening. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.640 I was not able to join you this evening, but 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.560 we are here, bright and early to interview the wrestlers, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.440 which I'm very exciting. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.119 There's nothing like a six am interview. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.880 It's a six am in it when they're like all 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.800 on too, they're like ready to go. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.959 All beautiful and in full wardrobe and. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.560 They've got to do this all day and then they're 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:34.480 going to wrestle tonight. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.919 I know, honestly, it's crazy. I'm lazy. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:37.160 Yeah. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.000 I napped halfway through one of the interviews and it 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.280 was a great interview, but it was a very, very 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:43.600 a little catnap. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.080 I found my new wrestling crush. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.800 Oh today, I know you did mention. I can't wait 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:48.520 to tell her that. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.520 Are you going to tell her that? 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:50.640 I just can't tell her. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:52.720 You know, it's just whatever I will do. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.120 You want to tell the people who you love. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.800 No, I love my wife, but I have a bit 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:57.720 of a wrestling crush. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.960 Okay, who's your wrestling Okay, you're not going to say, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.360 We're just gonna have to We're just gonna have to. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:02.920 You have to guess. You're gonna have to guess who 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.160 it is. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:08.400 Okay, Well, welcome everybody to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:10.919 And I'm Wilford Ell. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:11.320 Yeah. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.840 That's that's right. Rider bailed yet again yet again. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.480 He's on the road. Look at that, as you can. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.760 Always he's always good, conveniently on the road whenever we 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:19.720 do anything with wrestling. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:21.000 Isn't that the true. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.639 I'm starting to think that maybe this isn't his jam. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.679 I know, I did. I did think, like I need 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.600 to start thinking, like, yeah, I'd go out of town 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.120 for three months every summer and just drive around. Yeah. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.520 They just drive around in a van. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.240 Sometimes they get out of the van and they walk 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.560 very far distances. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.799 Yeah, to to to like do nothing. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.559 No, no, there's water there sometimes sometimes. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.000 Sometimes it's very it's very strange, and they eat at 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:48.400 place it's I don't understand. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.160 It doesn't like tacos. I don't get it. It is 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.040 like tacos either. I know. Oh boy, well we miss him? 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.359 Sound we do? 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.680 Yeah, I guess you're right. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.200 Well, we hope you enjoy this first episodisode. Our first 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.600 interview is with the one and only Ethan Paige. Yeah, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.359 did you love him? 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.360 He was so cool. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.240 He was so funny, really funny too. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.440 He like he like insulted me but also revered me. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.520 You know, he was like a little afraid of me. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.840 It was I kind of felt like the perfect amount 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.440 of fear. I want you. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:19.120 It was. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.200 It was great and he was he was just super 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.560 funny and kind of took over the interview, which I 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.000 love when that happens, so I do too. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.560 Well, after Ethan, you will also get to hear from 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.440 Soul Ruka. Very excited for that, so enjoy this episode 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:49.480 special side quest on Podmets World. Not since Nickelback has 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.680 something from Canada been so divisive. Since his start in 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.480 the business exactly twenty years ago, he has collected championships 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.000 like we have a Masked podcast. Some highlights on the 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.560 tag team side include titles at Impact, Triple A, Evolve, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.320 and my personal favorite p WG. More on that later. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.200 And now somehow he is just hitting his prime in 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.800 the WWE, where he's held the NXT title and was 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.080 the longest reigning North American champion of all time. He's 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.040 made quite a name in this business, even if my 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.760 four year old only calls him the guy who points 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.320 to his brain. We're so happy to welcome to pod 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:35.680 Meats World, all Ego, Ethan Page, Hello there, you seem 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.720 really bummed about this reference. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.800 It was a Nickelback that three. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.039 I think, Well, it only threw me because I was 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.000 offended that there's it's divisive. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:44.480 Divisive? 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.000 Yeah, Nickleback is divisive. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:51.040 Oh of course are you kidding? Really unanimously loved I believe. Okay, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.200 so I. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.320 Now you remind me that you don't know about Nickelback. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.719 No, I know, I know all about Nickleback. That was 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.880 a journey that you just took me on, and this 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.719 just started. I sent the longest email just trying to 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.120 find out why I was even booked for this podcast. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.440 And do most of our guests. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.200 I was like, I instantly regretted sending that email because 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.400 I was like, Wow, the amount of detail put into 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.320 this introduction. I felt very good about myself, and you 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.160 wrapped it up with a terrible beau at the end 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.440 and just threw it back in my face. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.400 I'm like, what the hell like that? 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:33.200 That was a very journalistic approach with comedic timing. I'm confused. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.440 I'm welcome to Podgy. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.880 That's a perfect way to describe it. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:40.720 I wanted you to. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.320 Feel like we were playing pin the tail, you know, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.040 I spinning you around, spinning you around, and then now 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.080 you're dizzy. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.000 I'm dizzy, Okay, Yeah, I'm busy. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.240 I'm confused. Yeah, I'm happy. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.520 Okay, I think again. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.800 Welcome to Thanks for. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.839 Having me, thank you for doing here. It is. It 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.800 has been a big twenty twenty six for Ethan Page 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.880 your big Raw debut, the post WrestleMania episode. You have 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.840 been doing this for quite a long time. Do you 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.880 still get nervous for the big moments? 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:18.719 Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I think so, well, not 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.080 the performance, okay, for like what it means to me 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.360 as the performer, Okay, if that makes sense? 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.760 I mean you mentioned that I'm in my prime, but 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:33.000 I'm like not physically in my prime. So I'm very 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.960 happy to get these kind of opportunities at this age 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:36.600 in my life. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.480 Okay, So you weren't the way you said it. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.560 You set it up as maybe you had not yet 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.520 hit your physical prime. What you're actually saying is your 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.480 physical prime was was was behind you? 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:49.559 I will say, if I'm going up against father time, Yeah, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.880 my physical prime was a little while ago, but my 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.040 prime as a performer is probably about to come. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.000 Oh if that makes. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.440 Sense, Yeah, totally I get that. Okay, yeah, yeah, why 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.719 does Canada still have don't. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.360 Ask questions like they're going to be nice? But for 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.640 some reason, I feel like. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.040 Have you not met Danielle? 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:12.240 Just the way you sound, I'm like, is this coming 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.000 out good or bad? 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.080 Anyway? Sorry? 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.040 Go ahead, but we don't known till the end either, clearly. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.800 All right, why does Canada still have such a pro 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.600 wrestling pipeline? What is it? Is it the cold weather 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.120 since like gyms are always hot to work? 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.680 No, you know what it is, And I think that 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:37.440 I'm gonna ignore that. I think that it's all kind 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.600 of I guess performance or arts. As far as Canada goes, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.600 we're like the black smudge on a map of entertainment. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.080 Like people don't pay attention to what's happening there. They 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.040 don't take it serious. Any of our shows, our movies, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:56.080 our athletes, our entertainers, they're all looked at as like Canada. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.400 Oh that's how I'm perceiving That's how I perceive it. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.600 As you don't watch de Grasse and then go to 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.600 a Nickelback concert. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.800 Listen, don't ever talk trash about Nicol. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.080 They broke out. Okay, That's why I'm not letting you guys. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.880 Is it Nickelback the band that married Avril Levine? I 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.480 have no, I'm pretty sure. Yeah she's Canadian, That's what 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.680 I'm saying. Yes, some forty one married Averl Levine's. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.040 You know more Canadian history than me. I love Canada 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.640 you know more than that. So but as far as 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.720 entertainment wise, to actually get out of Canada is very hard. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.080 So you say pipeline, I say, you only get our 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.520 best because of how hard it is to actually get 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.800 the paperwork that documents the visas, the permit, whatever you 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.280 have to cross the border to become a legal entertainer here. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.640 It's very, very hard. So it's not so much a 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.320 pipeline as much as like we're the ones that scratched 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.680 and clawed hard enough to make it. So, yeah, of 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.480 course you're only going to get our best, right. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.560 Yeah, when you were a kid growing up, is this 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.719 all like? Were you just watching wrestling the whole time 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:54.920 and this is kind of all you wanted to do? 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.880 Yeah, So I didn't really culturally to become a wrestler. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.560 For me with my family was like you want to 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:07.160 do what? Absolutely not. Our family didn't move from Yugoslavia 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.040 to Canada for this for you to go do that. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.760 But everyone's very supportive and happy now. But yeah, all 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.520 my life I wanted to at least entertain people or 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:16.679 be in front of a camera. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.920 Well, you're definitely entertaining. You have your all ego personality, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.320 a heel in every sense of the word. Do you 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.320 ever see Cody Rhodes kissing a baby and feel a 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.960 little left out. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.560 Like I want to be the Like No, great question, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:33.840 great question. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.040 Now I know where you were going, like that. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.320 Left out from what looked out from being beloved, like 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:47.800 people love me? Okay, people love Nickelback. It's true, it's 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.720 true your understanding, we're finally on the same Yes. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.199 Yes, if you choose to focus on the negative, huh, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.120 it'll always be there, right, Yeah, whatever you're looking for, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:09:59.600 you'll find. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.480 Yeah. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.240 Is it fun to play that kind of character? 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.800 Well, I just live my life. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.359 No character, really you or are there some influences? 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.120 I don't even think I'm like really that bad of 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:18.040 a person. Oh listen, Obviously violence is violence, and you 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.720 know things are perceived a certain way, like it's very bad. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.760 I'm a father. I don't raise my kids like that. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.920 But I think that people don't like me because I 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.160 tell the truth and I kind of shine a light 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.880 on things that people would choose to ignore. If that 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.280 makes me a bad person, then. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.600 So really you're just showing the mirror up to them 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.320 to where they just don't like themselves. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.040 Yeah, a lot of like who I am is just 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:40.520 pointing out who you are. 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:42.080 You're a mirror. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.480 Yeah, except I'd rather look at myself. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.079 Like it. I like it nice. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.840 You mentioned that you have kids. I also have children. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:53.559 Will hear it? 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.760 I know you already threw me under the bus with 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.079 your kids. Yeah, well points out his brain. Actually, can 0:10:59.080 --> 0:10:59.720 we address this? 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.840 Let's talk about it, because I didn't want It's actually 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.640 not an insult. We do. He loves to do intros 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.280 and promos. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.800 Yeah, I'm not going to talk to trash about your kid. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.240 I'm gonna talk to you. He can do adults. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.439 Okay, great, love it. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.320 Children, Fine, children. You're allowed to make mistakes. You're in 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.960 a growing phase of your life, and mistakes are gonna come, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.920 and they're gonna go, and they're gonna come back again, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.240 and it's gonna suck. And it's okay to make mistakes. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.400 But if you're forty two years old and paid hundreds 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.080 of dollars to sit in the front row, and you 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.520 don't know that, I'm pointing at my smile. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.240 The song sings kill him with uh not brain? 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:35.400 Right? 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:37.200 Not brain? 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:37.760 Not brain? 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:39.760 What's your kid's name? 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:40.680 Keaton? 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.640 Keaton? This is not for you. You have been fully forgiven. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.360 I'm gonna cut that part. I'm gonna just send this 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:46.880 to him and be like. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.319 Mess crap. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.800 Filming. You're going home and making Keaton some mac and cheese. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.640 Okay, look, Keaton, this is directly for you. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:58.880 Keaton. You're fine. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.960 Is fine. You can keep having your ray mysterial doll, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.880 beat up your Ethan page doll, live your life. It's 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.640 the forty two year olds in the front road that 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.360 think I'm pointing at my brain. The next time you 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:14.880 point to your brain, use it to remind yourself that 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.000 I'm pointing to my smile. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.440 Thank you, thank you. Yes, why did you start pointing 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:18.960 at your brain? 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.559 Have you ever done career day for your kids? 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:28.880 Oh? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.720 Yes, it's the coolest thing ever. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:32.400 Yeah. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:38.000 So no, my daughter loved the fact that I came 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.200 to her school. Yeah, but then she hated the fact 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.280 that I gave all the attention to the other kids. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:49.160 So then she tried to she wanted to the attention back. Yes, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.880 so there's two things that happen. One, she had her 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.920 hand up. Obviously, I'm not going to pick my daughter first. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.240 You know, I'm there special guests gotta you know, don't 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.880 want the audience. Of course, yeah, I'm the teacher. Obviously 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.360 she needs her attention to so she asked me, you know, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.280 can you give us something that'll be cool to see. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.360 I say, yeah, I was just on TV with The Rock. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.120 We should watch that. Forgetting that this is a second 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.000 grade class in the Rock slapped me on the ass 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.960 and swore, oh, so now the entire class saw that. Yep. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.400 So now I'm sweating profusely. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.440 The school is ready to throw you out. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.800 They loved it, okay. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.520 But then my daughter decided to tell a story about 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:32.920 because they were like, oh, you know, do you ever 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.079 get hurt wrestling? And I'm like, yeah, you know, it's 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.480 very dangerous what we do. My daughter's hands been up 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.719 for like five minutes at this point. I just go, yes, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.360 go ahead. She's like, well, you said, you know, sometimes 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.200 you get hurt, sometimes you don't. But what happened to 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.280 that one time that you suplex mommy on the bed 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.640 and her hair clip broke? 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.160 And I'm like, whoa, what what what are you telling 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:51.960 the class here? 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.720 There's none of this well playful banter at the house. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.960 All of a sudden, now the teacher thinks I'm violent. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.400 Yes, breaking mommy's hair clips. 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.240 Yeah, anyways, sorry about that. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:21.440 I have a history with seeing Ethan Page wrestle I 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:27.080 was a PWG frequenter, like physically there, physically there, multiple Yes. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.600 A true life highlight for me, honestly is being able 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.440 to see everything that went down in that gross little 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.200 legion hall. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.320 Why for you? 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.640 It really is they talk about all the time, like 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:39.360 seriously all the time. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:40.000 Is the best? 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.680 Okay, what about it? 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.840 It was where I fell in love with wrestling again. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.760 So I've been you know, like a lot of people, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.000 I've had an in and out love relationship with wrestling 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.280 over the years. And when my husband and I started 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.960 dating and he said, you like wrestling, I have a 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.440 place for you, and he took me to p WG. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.000 Okay, so you previously liked wrestling? 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.960 Mm hmm, like what like WWE? 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.320 Okay, okay, okay. And then your husband was like, well, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:06.840 I got to take you to this place. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.600 Yes, He's like, oh, you've been to RAW and you've 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.000 been to WrestleMania, but you've never been to p WG. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:16.120 We're going to go to p WG. And I just 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.840 was like, this is the greatest thing ever. I looking 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.280 around everybody knowing every chance, everybody knowing all the moves, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:29.600 the sweaty sock smellure. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.320 Of beer as a cup, yes. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.840 Exactly, the sweaty bodies just shoved up next to each other. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.240 I loved everything about it cool and it fully got 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:41.440 me back hooked into wrestling. But why do you think 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.160 PWG is so was so special? Like, how do you 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.000 think it influenced or do you think it influenced WWE 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:48.360 at all? 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:54.440 I think it influenced I guess the wrestlers who ended 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.440 up becoming influential in the bigger companies, for sure. But 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.120 I think it's it's just like we all choose the 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.080 cool places. I guess, like the wrestlers do because we're 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.240 all willing to either make the deal to do it, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.920 or it's the crowd is worth it, or the buzz 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.680 is worth it, or we know that the spotlight's big 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.080 enough to actually make the trip. So I think I 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.240 got paid like forty dollars to do these shows she's 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.520 talking about. But like, if you do the math, there's 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.720 maybe two hundred three hundred people physically in that tiny, disgusting, 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:31.120 overheated building, but whatever we filmed would end up across 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.440 the world, and this was like the tapes for wrestling 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.200 that people were trying to watch. So I just think 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.800 it was like, as long as the talent is collectively 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.080 in agreeance that like this is what you need to watch, Yeah, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.880 it'll always be the place. Yeah, and that was PDBG 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:44.360 for sure. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.240 That was Yeah, it's just so great. What are some 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.640 of your highlights from me, Recita, Like, do you have 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.880 any moments that stand out to you looking back? Oh? 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.920 Yeah, Sophia Vergara was there and I pulled my butt out. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.680 Was O there that night. I feel like we were 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:01.840 there with Sophia Bergara. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.240 Now, Okay, maybe I don't know why I remember that 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.440 because there's a picture of it, but I think that. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:14.399 And then Aranda came one time and she was rousing 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.720 in the front row and it was maybe like a 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.800 tag tournament or something like that, and I just remember 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.639 the buzz of the audience was just like, oh, this 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.960 is weird, like anyone can kind of show up right. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.920 I don't know. For me, it was just getting to 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.840 wrestle a lot of the wrestlers that I watched and 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.080 the opportunity to mix it up with people that I 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.520 knew were getting a lot of eyes and attention. It's 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.560 like being an opening act for a nickelback, you know. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:37.560 Sure, I do. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.640 Have you ever wrestled to a place where you're starting, 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.959 You're in there and you're like this, this was a mistake. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:53.880 I mean I've signed contracts like that, you know what. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:59.439 I never after during yes, but afterwards there's always like 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.199 a store or a lesson to learn or something like 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.159 my go to any time, especially coming to WWE with NXT, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.520 there's so many athletes that never did anything before coming here, 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:11.920 and I love telling them that I did an entire 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.120 tournament for a father and son because that's the only 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.000 tickets that's sold. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:17.560 Really. 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.440 Yes, there were two people there, yeah, a father, his 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.320 son and one hundred empty brown chairs. And I wrestled 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.359 in the tournament all the way to the finals. So 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:28.199 that's three matches. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:29.280 Wow my god. 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.760 Wow, and I think I got paid like two dollars. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.160 It's a toney in Canada. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.240 Yeah, you know that of course, not to be a 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:39.879 mistaken for Aloni, Yeah, yeah, correct. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:40.639 Oh my god. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.639 You mentioned NXT. It has a community feeling similar to 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.000 the salad days of p WG. You were both an NXT. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:49.680 What does that mean? Salad days. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.879 You know everyone, No, it means like the high the highlights, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.520 like the best days, the days that the peak days. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.520 I'm old, and why is so revered like that. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.240 I don't I didn't make it. I didn't make this phrase. 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.000 You don't love salad. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.880 I love salad. I'm not currently because we could all 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:09.880 have a parasite. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:11.440 I heard about that. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.200 We're avoiding lettuce currently. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.880 I'm eating as much of it as I can because 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:15.920 I want to see what happens. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:17.320 It's a good diet. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.479 Yeah, I mean yeah, I think you can order a 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.479 tapeworm online. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.639 I think can you really? Uh yeah, yeah yeah. The 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.960 stomach flew away from my ideal weight. It's always the 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:26.399 way it is. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:28.879 Wait, hold on, that's a real phrase. 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.680 Yes, yes, yes, that's a real phrase. You can feel 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:33.320 free to use it later. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:34.280 I'm going to look it up. First. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.359 We're going to google wear salad day. I guarantee you 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:36.800 right now. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.320 Why do they like salad so much? 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.800 Back the yield salad days? 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.160 Thank exactly. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:45.760 I'm sorry to derail. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:46.920 I'm sorry. 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.120 I'm just so confused. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.679 You know, when when I wrote it, I thought this 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.840 is going to stop the entire interview. This is the 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.560 moment where he just gets up and. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.280 These are the salad days of this. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:03.520 So you were. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:08.080 Both an NXT champ and the longest reigning North American champion. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.240 Even someone like you who has had decades of experience 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.080 in the ring, Why is NXT important in your journey? 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:22.880 It was very important. The WWE is such a different 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.880 beast in comparison to anywhere that I've worked before, as 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.879 far as like locker room, company wise, visibility wise, global impact. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.400 So I'm very happy that I had two years there 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.119 to kind of understand how the ww operates and to 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.880 learn like how much bigger the audience is. And now 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.800 I'm getting reintroduced to so many new fans. I'm very 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.399 happy that I got to kind of start there. I 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.240 guess yeah. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.040 I'm always so so curious who was your favorite wrestler 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:52.479 growing up? 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.200 The Rock always from from the jump. 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.159 No, So when I was like a little kid, the 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.280 macho man Randy Savage was my favorite. Then Razormone was 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.920 like the coolest wrestler ever to me, but also because 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:05.919 my dad thought he was cool, so I was like, okay, 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.639 well I like him too, And then once I started 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.800 picking my own favorites, the Rock was on the list 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:12.480 for sure, like top of the list. 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.720 So wait, so your dad was a wrestling fan too, 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.320 but you saying you want to be a wrestler was 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.240 still like, well, you're not going to be a wrestler. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:22.680 Yeah. So it's a little culturally confusing here because you've 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:28.160 got families that moved from like the Balkans or Yugoslav 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:32.679 former Yugoslavia to Canada. So then my grandfather just worked 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.879 his butt off. And then my father was trying his 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.720 best to become a football player professionally, and so I 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.360 guess he tried out and I think was accepted by 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.000 the Hamilton Tiger Cats, the CFL team, and his father 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.200 was like, oh, absolutely not, Like you need to just 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.000 get a job and work because that's what we do. 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:55.520 So he was always I guess, dreams crushed and now 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.320 here I am hanging out with you guys right before 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.800 Monday Night Raw. The complete opposite. So it's not that 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.040 they weren't supportive, they were just I guess they didn't 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:08.680 get to chase what they wanted to do, So it's 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.480 weird to like they were definitely like, go ahead, do it, 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.520 give it a shot, but they were skeptical and scared 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.760 the whole time. It just was not culturally accepted. 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.880 Yeah. Yeah, do they love it now though, of course? Yeah. 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.480 I mean living vicariously through you a little. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.080 Bit, right. I mean their son is hanging up at 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:28.360 Target exactly, or in you know, Keaton's toybet or correct or. 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.960 At our house. Many times, I was a big fan 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.000 of your work with another Canadian import and friend of 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:39.080 the show, Chelsea Greenooh okay, love Chelsea so much. Tell 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.560 me about that chemistry. Why did it work so well? 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.680 I don't know. I don't know. Well, here's the thing. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.680 Chelsea works with anybody. I know, I work with anybody. 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.160 Then you put us together and it's like, oh, two 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.879 people that are willing to make anything work are now 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:59.320 working together. It was just magic and both of us 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.879 brought something every time. It was never just one sided, 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.200 and I think that's why it worked. 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.600 Yeah. That's a little like real, like real relationships where 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.080 people say, well it's fifty to fifty, it's like, no, no, 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:11.359 it should be one hundred, one. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:12.920 Hundred, yes exactly. 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.080 Yes, you know, like if you're only bringing your fifty percent, 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.919 but also sometimes you're sometimes one person may have to 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:19.840 do one hundred and twenty. 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.680 Yeah, they didn't have that conversation where it's like I 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.320 can give you sixty percent today, it's like, all right, 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.000 I got you touch, I can do one for Yeah, 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:26.520 I can do that. 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.600 And we had tag matches like that, we had promos 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.959 like that, we had show days like that. Yeah, and 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:33.880 we were at least honest with each other like, hey, 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.040 I'm feeling this today, I'm feeling this today. So she 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.280 was amazing to work with, Like, absolutely amazing. 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:39.880 That's great. 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.840 How what how often do you wrestle that injured is 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:44.560 different but hurt? 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.760 I mean is it most most of the time? 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:46.959 Right? 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:47.200 Yeah? 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.400 Yeah all the time? 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:48.720 Wow? 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.200 Yeah, for sure. 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.720 My shoulder hurts a little bit, and I'm like, I 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.520 it was hard for me to wake up this morning. 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.080 It's like I have a little bit of all These 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:57.800 are the salad days of her shoulders. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:23:58.400 Thank you these? 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:04.520 No, Yeah, we have Summer Slam next weekend. And you 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:08.200 did come up short to Chad Gable for challenging Kenta 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.800 for the Intercontinental Championship. Now we all know that. 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.400 Didn't you actually watch that or are you just reading 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.560 a piece of paper because if you're going to bring 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.120 it up, I'm redial. All right, thank you? For being 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.960 honest if you're going to bring it up, huh. 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.160 Is it a hurtful moment for you? Yeah? 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.800 We got this podcast for you, go do media and 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:29.920 promote Summer Slam. 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:37.560 Yeah, it's fine, Okay, I mean that that. That was 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:42.200 my question was does missing out on these opportunities still 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.080 bum you out? Or is it just the nature of 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:47.879 the trade, because like we all now know the inner 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:52.040 workings of it thanks to Unreal, but like before Unreal, 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.639 I don't know that anybody necessarily knew how it all worked. 0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.360 But so is it actually painful for you you won't 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.439 be at SummerSlam or are you just like it's just 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:03.600 the way the cookie crumbles something? 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:09.160 So look, I wish I could be honest. I wish 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.919 I could have been honest this entire interview. I've just 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.680 been lying this whole time. But when it comes to this, 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.359 I think for me, yes, I'm very upset that I 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.720 missed the opportunity, but the WW and TKO won't allow 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.600 me to have the time to do that because I'll 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.639 be available for photo ops and me in greets the 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.520 entire Summer Slam weekend and doing you know, appearances like this, 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.480 and they've kept me very busy, so I will not 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.960 be allotted the freedom to think. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.760 I feel that. Yeah, I'm also in a period of 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:42.800 my life where I'm not allowed to think. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:44.560 Yeah, we're all happy for that. 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.560 Yeah right, Yeah, because when you have time to think, 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.960 that's when bad things happen. Yeah, you're a little too free. Yeah, 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.359 and you need to be booked up a little bit more. 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:55.880 When you've got time to think. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.399 Oh see, I told you that's. 0:25:59.240 --> 0:25:59.680 What he's doing. 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.600 That point, that's why it points think. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:04.280 Yeah, it's going to career. 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:07.880 Aren't you glad you said yes to this? 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.840 Guys, this is a little too early and my ww 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.679 career for them to be changing my branding on a 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.840 popular podcast. Okay, this is not good synergy. 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.960 Finally, I do want to do a little rap Finally, 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.240 you're you're You're almost you're almost free. 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:24.160 One thing. 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.080 You want to read? 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:26.280 More? 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:27.080 Do you want me to read? 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.560 Hey, Danielle, what's next? 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.600 I want to do a little rapid fire. I want 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.719 to find the sweet side of ethan page. 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.160 Well, as long as we're talking about delicious desserts, you'll 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:43.560 find it. 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.080 Yes, I want to list a few people, and you 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.000 have to come up with the best thing about them. 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.240 You have to praise them, even if it is the 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.200 hardest thing you've ever done. 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.240 Okay, after this podcast, nothing you say will be the 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:07.400 hardest thing. Chad Gable, Oh ugly you said nice, he's 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.720 the ugliest person you've ever seen. He's number one and ugly. 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.040 No he's not. I've seen some of these Luca guys 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:26.240 without their masks. It's got a great tan great. Uh, 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.600 he'd make a great birthday clown. 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.120 That's fair, that's fair. 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:32.720 Von Evans. 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.560 Mm hm. Oh you know what, since he started putting 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.760 those grills in, I haven't heard a single thing he said. 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:39.680 And that's amazing. 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.200 Okay. 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:51.800 American, Oh ah, something positive about El Grande. He's got 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.040 very nice Spanish accent. 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.640 And Cody Rhodes. 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.240 We broke, we broke broke his brain. 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.560 Great at kissing kids, he's. 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.360 Great a kissing babies. Okay, finally, how about will here? 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:17.920 Oh you are the best brain pointer ever score. Yes, 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.639 I'll take it yourself. 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.040 No, no, I'm definitely not saying I don't. I'm going 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.840 to skip right over it. Ethan. It was so great 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.240 talking to you. Thank you, thank you so much, so fun. 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.440 No problem, we love you. 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.960 I will shame Keaton, No, I get home today. 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.880 Yeah you do, not shame keeping the timeouts for exactly 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.080 you know what your room to your room? 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.040 How are you know? 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.320 This is how you make lifelong fans. Okay, okay, you're saying, oh, 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.640 don't you want to be beloved? Yes, I'm trying to 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:50.760 manipulate the youth. 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.560 I got it smart. Okay, get a long term playing 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.680 a long time smart correct kind of like how you 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.480 guys got me to do this podcast. Yeah, I TG 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.000 if I could not say no. 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.040 It's a manipulation tactic. 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.880 And now imagine my mom sent me to my room 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.840 because it's something you said. I wouldn't have been a fan. 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.600 I would have hated the show then, and I said, no, 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:14.720 I'm not doing this podcast. 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.680 Not doing that makes sense, makes sense. We are big fans. 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:24.040 Good, thank you, thank you, thank you guys. 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.520 Well you know those people who peek in one sport 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.960 and then just one day decide to peak again in 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.600 a completely different sport, Well, today we are interviewing one 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:53.640 of those respectfully athletic freaks. She was a prodigy gymnast, 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.000 performing backsprings in front walkovers like some sort of olympian, 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.840 and then one day looked around and said, you know, 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.760 but this sport is missing steel chairs. From there, she 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.920 has dominated NXT, becoming an undeniable fan favorite, and now 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:13.520 she is the WWE Women's Intercontinental Champion, which she took 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.680 off Becky Lynch in Italy just weeks into her first 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.000 stint on the main roster. Oh part of an impressive 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.360 class of emerging young superstars breaking through. As some of 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.520 our veteran favorites call it a day, she's ready to 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.280 carry the torch and bring a whole new level of 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.480 athleticism to the women's division. Now on Pod Meets World, 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:39.520 it's the best thing to ever come from Ska soul Ruca. 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.640 I love that. That was perfect. Yeah, that was spot on. 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.280 Thank you so much for spending time with us. I 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:47.760 live in a soul Ruka household. 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.280 Oh I love that. I love to hear that. 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.160 Yes for having me. We're happy you're here. I joked 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.360 about it in the intro. But your dad is a 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.200 founding member of the legendary ska and reggae band The 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:04.400 Skeletons and was in Fishbone Entertainment is obviously in your 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.800 DNA and he played the Apollo Red Rocks outside Lands. 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.200 They opened for no doubt, Sublime, Incubus, the list goes 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.920 on and on. So what did he say when you 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.840 told him, Dad, I want to be a wrestler. 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.400 I mean both my parents were stoked. 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.760 I think like right before I told my mom that 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.320 I had a try out, my mom was out to 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.600 dinner with her mom and my brother and it was 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.560 on the TV. My mom was like, oh, she'd be 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:31.160 so good at that. And then like a few days later, 0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.720 I was like, hey, I have a tryout. Yeah. They've 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.960 always been super supportive and like, like you said, my 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.800 dad's always been in entertainment, so he kind of knew 0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.080 what I was like getting myself into. 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:40.640 But he was really really excited for me. 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.840 That's so great. It's not often you hear that from 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.040 you know. We've interviewed to quite a few wrestlers at 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.600 this point, and most of the time they're like they 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.440 were supportive, but also. 0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.080 I think a lot of them we've met. 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.200 It's also it's such a departure from everything else in 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.480 their family. Whereas you grew up in an entertainment family, 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.800 so it's entertainment, so it's kind of like, Okay, you 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.160 want to entertain a huge crowd. 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.080 I get that I guess a little more. 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.160 Yeah, but this is this something even when you were 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.280 a gymnast that you were like to be professional wrestling. 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:11.040 No, not at all. 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.160 I was not a fan. I never like was exposed 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.160 to it growing up. Like now looking back, I wish 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:17.720 I was, because if I did see it, I probably 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.680 would have been like, this is what I want to do, right. 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.000 But I had some kids that I babysat for a bit. 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:23.800 They had like all the. 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.680 Action figures, they had all the rings, and they would 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.200 like try the moves on each other, and I was 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.840 just like making sure they're staying safe. So that was 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.440 like the extent of my experience with wrestling. And then 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.440 I got a DM from their recruiting page on Instagram 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.000 and they asked if I want to do a tryout 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.440 and I was like, at first I thought it was 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.080 UFC and I was like, I don't know how to fight, yeah, 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.200 and I rather not, but did my research and I 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.120 was like, wait, this is like sick, like I would 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.520 love to do this. So except to the tryout, and 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.600 my mentality was just like if I get it, hell 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.640 yeahf no, it's a cool story to tell everyone. So 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.800 I flew out to Orlando at the Performance Center, did 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.720 the the tryout, and then a few days later got 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.440 the call and moved from Hawaii to Orlando within like 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.120 a few months and been here ever since. 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.600 Oh wow, we have talked a lot about the Performance 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.840 Center Live Morgan, uh, talk to us about what that's like. 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.680 What was your experience like when you entered the Performance 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:19.280 Center having not grown up watching wrestling. Were you were 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.200 there like some massive surprises? 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:21.800 Yeah. 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.640 I was just like it was just like a whole 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.880 new world, you know, like I was going from the 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.640 University of Oregon to here or to the Performance Center, 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.440 which is like a bit different with just like how 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.840 everything's run and like the uh like the team aspect. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.960 It was like there, but it's also like a bit different, 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.160 so a lot of characters, and I was like used 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.040 to that, you know, I'm so used to just being 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.800 an athlete and being so like serious all the time, 0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.720 and then coming into the PC and everyone's like super 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.120 bubbly and like has all these personalities and this like 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.600 whole storyline and all this stuff. 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.640 So that was a bit like different, But it. 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.360 Was really cool because I've never had that kind of 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.840 like creative like output and within my like athleticism and 0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.320 my like character and stuff. So I think that was 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.240 like the biggest thing for me. But it was, Yeah, 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.680 it was really cool. The Performance Center is absolutely amazing. 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.720 I mean, wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them. 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.640 So I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.239 So you're you're an athlete, you're a gymnast, and you 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.000 just open Instagram one day and there's just a random 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:15.799 DM to you. 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:16.759 Yeah, pretty much. 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.279 I mean once I graduated, I moved to Hawaii and 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.799 I was doing online personal training and I was doing 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.880 like social media influencing at the time. So my social 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.040 media was just me doing flips and tricks on the 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.600 beach because I kind of missed just being an athlete 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.319 and that's like what I grew up doing, so I 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.239 kind of wanted to see where that would take me. 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.160 And so I think they saw one of my videos 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.680 and then from there they were like, wow, yeah, we 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.359 want you, and I was like, cool, let's do it. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.720 That's crazy to me. Your whole life change is one DM. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:44.640 Yeah, it's wild. 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.719 We'll still hoping it's going to happen for him, right. 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.520 I don't have any social media, which makes it harder 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.640 I'm waiting for an actual letter to arrive at my house. 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.160 Right happening a lot. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.840 We want you in the ww A lot less. Yeah, 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.839 I want to ask you one more question about your 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.480 dad's music too. Because you grew up around so much 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.680 amazing music, you must have gone to some incredible shows. 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.200 Can you tell me about like a show you went 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:09.640 to that was just blow my mind? 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.640 So he played at Coachella when I was in high school, 0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.160 so it was that was really cool. Like he got 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.200 artist passes for me and my friend, so we were 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.640 like backstage and like just meeting so many really cool people. 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.600 And I think that was like one of the best 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.080 experiences that I've had. Some of the people you met 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:32.839 I met like Tyler creator Andre three thousand. Shoot, there 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.680 were so many people I've met, some like influencer like 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.040 David Doe, Bricky like that. Yeah, it was really really cool. 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.560 I met Rihanna well kind of she like brushed past me, 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:39.919 and I. 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.399 Was like, oh my god, I met. 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:43.319 Her, but I didn't say anything. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:47.320 I was so nervous still you were you were millimeters away. 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:49.799 That's why it. 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.560 Makes you pretty popular in high school when you can 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.480 say all your friends like my dad's playing Coachella. 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.800 Yeah, go, I mean that's got to be artists. Do 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.000 you want to go hang out at Coachella? 0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:58.759 That's pretty great. 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.520 Your background, as we mentioned, was in gymnastics, acrobatics, tumbling, 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.200 and you competed at the University of Oregon. Did you 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.439 ever contemplate joining Circasla. 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:08.759 Yes. 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.280 Actually I thought like I wanted to get into something 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.880 like that or stunt doubling before I went went to 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.759 the PC, But I didn't really know how to get 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.520 into that kind of world, especially being in Hawaii, like 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.520 a lot of it is like on the mainland or 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.279 like in you know, La or you know, there's a 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.080 lot of stuff in Orlando as well. But I did 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:32.080 actually do a cirk Disila like event thing within WW. 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.400 We were like in NXC and they brought some of 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.439 us to cirk Disila where they were like training because 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:37.520 they had to show out there and it. 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.279 Was really really cool. 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:38.879 That's cool. 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.719 I definitely think maybe one day I'll I'll dabble in that. 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.040 Yeah, that feels like something that should be on your 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.080 manifestation or yeah. 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:47.160 Yeah, I'm curious. 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:53.280 How does the workout regiment for high level gymnastics compare 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.080 with the workout regiment for being a wrestler. 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.240 It's like the same but different. 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.600 I mean, like in gymnastics training from I was like 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.800 twenty five hours a week from the age of six 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.799 all the way up until I went to college. But 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.840 wrestling is just so different from any other sport, Like 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.680 you really have to listen to your body and just 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.120 like stay safe in terms of like working out on 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.359 the outside, just because it is so demanding. I think 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.400 I learned that the hard way, like I form a 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.080 ACL and I think it was because I was just 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.120 doing so much, because I was still trying to like 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.920 do powerlifting and do acrobatics on the side, and then 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.000 also wrestling and also being on the shows and traveling, 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.200 and it was just like too much. So I think 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.440 that's like the biggest thing is that it's so different 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.200 that you really have to take into account how your 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.800 body's actually feeling. But in terms of like the schedule, 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.200 like it is pretty much the same, Like we are traveling, 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:44.880 we're working out all the time, we're like in the 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.080 ring all the time. Yeah, it's just a bit more mindful. 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.440 Does your gymnastics mind lend itself to where you want 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.520 to like create brand new moves in the room. 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.359 Oh yeah, Yeah, that's like all I think about all 0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.799 the time, like trying to think of like different ways 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.759 I can do things, or even taking like you know, 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.279 like normal wrestling moves and like trying to make it 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.000 a little bit different or like get into it a 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.960 different way or just make it a little bit more me. 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.160 So that definitely shout out to gymnastics for that. 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.520 You mentioned your torn acl which you tore rather early 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.880 in your career, and it has a notoriously long and 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:23.040 difficult rehab. What did you learn about yourself during that process? 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.520 I mean, I definitely learned to listen to my body 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.480 a bit more, and I also learned that I can 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.080 almost like gaslight myself into being okay. Like I was 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.320 really really scared at first and being like, you know, 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.000 I don't know if I'm ever gonna be the same 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.359 when I come back. I don't know if I'm gonna 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:40.920 be able to do the move sets that I still do. 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.799 But and I was like really scared because I've never 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.240 had a serious injury. I've never been under the knife before, 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.840 so it was really terrifying. But once I started the rehab, 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.439 I was like, I'm just gonna tell myself I'm fine, 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.800 Like I'm just gonna tell myself that I'm gonna return 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:54.520 even better. 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.839 Than I first was here. 0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.160 So I think just that mentality, I kind of just 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.680 like forced myself like almost like manifested it to be true, 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.000 because I definitely think I returned way better than I left. 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:05.600 Oh that's great. 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:05.879 Yeah. 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.080 Well, and then in your final NXT appearance against Zaria, 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.560 you went through a table from a very high ledge, 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.720 and I for one, held my breath for about three minutes. 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.320 In the end, you needed eight staples in your head, 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.040 and then again you healed and came back stronger than ever. 0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:28.600 So I I guess my next question is are you Wolverine? 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.120 I mean, are you. 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.560 I've never seen you in the same place. 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.879 I'm not allowed to talk about that because that would 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:40.600 be awesome. The next question, okay, next, okay to ask 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.680 with the stuff. Now, I know we the one thing 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.640 so Daniel's brought me into the world of wrestling. I'm 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.040 still learning as of getting there. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.680 But one thing that I've I've we're learning is there's 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.840 a very big difference between fake and choreographed. Choreographed is 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:56.319 it's the amazing athleticism when you do something even though 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.799 it's choreographed, like going through a table, how much does 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:05.480 that hurt? We have a lot of adrenaline, so so you 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:06.960 don't feel it when it first happened. 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:07.719 No, I mean when. 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.080 Especially when I went through the table, I had no 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:11.759 idea that my head was split open. 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.240 I was just I landed and I was like sweet, 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:15.040 like I made it. 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:16.960 I was like I wanted to hit both tables, but 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.560 I ended up under one of them, so I was 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.960 a bit confused. But I was just sitting there waiting 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.959 for us to you know, get off off of Live 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.399 and uh, medical came out. 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.000 They're like are okay. I'm like yeah, I'm fine. 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:29.960 They're asking me like what day is it? Where are 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.080 you like making sure that? Like I was all good 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.200 to go. I like had my hand over my head 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.719 just because I knew how it looked, so I just 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.200 wanted to, you know, make it, sell it, Yeah, sell it. 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.560 So I had my hand there. I went to sit 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:43.040 up and. 0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.920 They're like, don't move and I was like okay, and 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.400 I look at my hand and it's like covered in 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:47.080 blood and I was. 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:51.200 Like, oh, that's not what I thought happened. I mean, 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:52.320 I yeah, I was fine. 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.320 Even afterwards, Like I was, it was just a freak accident, 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:57.799 you know, I think I just hit it at the 0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:58.680 perfect angle. 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.280 But so did you feel it the next day? 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:06.239 Honestly no, Like I was fine, superficial head. 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:10.080 Would you know it needs eight stitches? I mean eight staples? 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.120 You're telling you the wolverine question. I'm still now starting 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:14.359 to think she's an ex man. 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.240 I mean, yeah, well, we can see how your acrobatics 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.279 background has helped your wrestling and made you have your 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:27.319 own you know, pov on things. How does it does 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.160 it in any way? Does it hold you back? Does 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:30.879 it hurt you or hinder you in any way? 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:33.759 I don't know. 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.400 I know I wouldn't say it hurt or hinder, but 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:40.759 I do think I can sometimes overcomplicate things or like 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:42.799 try to do too much just because I'm trying to 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:46.359 be so different. So I do think that. I don't 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.719 know if that necessarily hinders me, but I do. I 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.399 have noticed that a few times. I'm like, I need 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.319 to just like chill out for a second, and like 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.799 it's okay to not have every single movie something like 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.280 no one's ever seen before. 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.280 Right, the straight line between A and B is okay? 0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.320 Here it doesn't exact. 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.320 Yeah, yeah, you get the The other thing that's interesting 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.640 is it's such a like any It's like no other 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.960 sport I've ever seen before, because there's such a balance 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.000 between athleticism and performance. 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.480 So you obviously had the athleticism coming in. 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.000 Did you have any trouble kind of getting into the 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.239 I need a character, I need to act, I need 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.320 to be in front of the cameras. 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:20.879 I mean, yeah, was that just a whole new world 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:21.080 for me? 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.799 Yeah, that was I think like the hardest thing for me. 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.040 And I feel like I'm still like trying to get 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.480 used to that and trying to like really find myself, 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.760 especially because I've only been doing this for like for 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.720 almost five years and I was out for nine months. 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.040 But yeah, that was definitely like the hardest thing. Like again, athletics, 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.000 you're supposed to be serious, you're supposed to you show up, 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.239 they give you a uniform, they tell you have to 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:43.520 do this this, and then I have to say this, 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:45.560 you have to you know, give you your like move 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:46.239 set in a way. 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.160 So when I got here, they're like, oh, like what's 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.440 your character, Like what do you want to be? And 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.480 I was like, no, one's ever asked me that before. 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:52.560 I don't know, I don't. 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.040 Really like the first like day of the tryout, we 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.600 have a promost like seg at the end uh. And 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:03.920 the trial I was at was a mix of indie 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.839 workers and athletes. So the indie workers went and they 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.000 had this whole persona. 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:09.920 They were all had this. 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.319 Like get up and everything and like had a whole 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:13.959 story and it was like really cool. 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.359 They had like a punchline at the end. 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.080 And then like I remember, I went up and a 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.040 bunch of the US athletes went up like, Hey, my 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.239 name is this. I went to this school. These are 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:27.680 my accolades, and that's all I got. And after that, 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:29.560 I was like, I'm not getting the job. There's no way. 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.320 Wow, did you just binge wrestling? After that? 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.240 Since yeah, yeah, I still feel like I'm so far behind, 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:36.480 but I am trying my best. 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.040 It's there's so much You. 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.960 Have admitted that you are a below average surfer, So 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.520 how did that kind of end up being your aesthetic? 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.400 People just like assumed I guess like as soon as 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:52.239 I walked in, they were just like I think people 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.279 knew I was like living in Hawaii at the time, 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.200 Souburn was just like, oh, you're the girl from Hawaii, 0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.520 like surfer and like even growing up, just like because 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.960 I'm from California originally, I've always loved the beach and 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:04.880 I try and be at the beach as much as 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.600 I can. But I think just the way I like look, 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.160 people just assumed that I was a surfer and I 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.279 was just like yeah, Like I remember at the PC, 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.040 I think someone told me like, yeah, you have like 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:14.640 a unique look. 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.799 You should just keep that. You should just keep doing 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:17.200 what you're doing. 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:21.919 I was like, cool, Yeah, So many people first learned 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.719 to view from your finisher. The soul snatcher, a gravity 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.400 defying move from the top rope that often goes viral. 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.680 Where did that come from? 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.799 So it's similar to a move I did in gymnastics. 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:37.680 It was a it's called a straddle back. 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.279 It's on the uneven bars, so essentially it's like a 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.200 reverse gainer in a way, so instead of moving forward 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.800 and flipping backwards, you're moving backwards and flipping forwards. 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.960 So on the bar, I would like swing. 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.400 Forward, swing back, and then like let go of the 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.480 bar and then catch the low bar in a handstand. 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.239 So now I'm just catching a human instead of the bar, 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.000 so yeah, that's kind of where it came from. 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.560 The first time you tried it catching a human. Yeah, 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.600 was it terrifying? Did it go as planned? 0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.360 Yeah, it was a bit scary. But we have like 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.440 a squishy ring at the PC, so it's like the 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.000 floor of the ring is like a bed. So I 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:17.879 was able to like practice a few times make sure 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.440 that I could, you know, flip all the way through 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.480 because I am used toill landing on my hands or 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.680 on my feet, so like landing on my back was 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.399 a bit different for me. But yeah, once I had 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.640 someone like step in, it was just more so just 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.160 getting used to my spatial awareness and being able to 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.920 like look at where the person is. But yeah, once 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.839 I was able to kind of get my bearings on that, 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:39.760 it was relatively easy. 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:44.480 Now, how strange question, but you so once you know 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.000 you can do it, how important then is the partner 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:48.680 you have to work with to make sure that they're 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.399 doing exactly what they need to do. 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.960 So well, yeah, I mean it is definitely important. 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.640 When I was thinking of a move for my finish, 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.720 I wanted something to be like easy for another person 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.200 to take, you know. I didn't want to have something 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.000 where I have to lift someone up, because you know, 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:03.960 sometimes you're in the ring for like thirty minutes and 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.279 you get really, really tired and blown up towards the end. 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.560 So I was trying to think of something that was 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:10.719 easy for someone to take and something that I didn't 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.719 have to worry about someone being way bigger than me 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:17.400 or really smaller than me. So essentially, I feel like 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.800 I've never taken it, but I try to make it 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.799 as simple as possible, like as long as they're just 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.719 there and their like neck is available. 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:26.279 Like I can hit it. 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.960 So I wondered, that's going to be something if somebody 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:31.239 tries it on you at some point. 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.440 Yeah, I know, I'm a little worried about that. I 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.960 know Becky attempted it in our match and I was like, girl, you're. 0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:40.719 Crazy, no way. Now on raw, you are surrounded by 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.680 some of the best women to ever step foot in 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.000 a ring. What is the best piece of advice you've gotten? 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:48.200 And from home? 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:54.080 Oh, you say men and women are just the way 0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.200 I just talked about the women on this one. I mean, 0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:01.280 I've learned just so much from Bailey, not necessarily anything 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.279 like that she said, but she's just made it a 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:05.239 lot easier for me to. 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.640 Come up here and just like feel welcomed, Like. 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.040 She's just like she's such a good locker room with leader, 0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.240 and she's just honestly like my favorite. 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.479 She is so sweet. We love Bailey. Yeah, we's big 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.120 Bailey fans. Being that you brought it up. What about 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:21.440 some of the men, the male wrestlers, have you gotten 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.239 any advice from them? And from whom? 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.960 So not necessarily a wrestler, but I've been talking to 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.359 Paul Hayman recently and he's been helping me a lot 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:32.640 with like promos, and uh, a few weeks ago, I 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:36.959 was supposed to have a like stylized backstage just talking 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.800 about my reign and just like introducing myself to the 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:44.959 Raw universe, the w universe. And so I also last 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.799 minute got added to a main event match. So I 0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.000 was planning that, and I didn't have any like Burbridge 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.360 or any idea of what this like promo segment was 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.840 supposed to be about. And then I received a envelope 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.480 and I was told not to open it. It was 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.239 like my verb for the backstage, and I wasn't allowed 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:03.600 to open it until I talked to Paul Hayman and 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:04.960 I was like okay. 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.279 But I also had to like go get ready and 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:07.040 like all this stuff. 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.000 So then I finally like made my way over there 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:10.640 and he's like, okay, like open it. And it was 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.600 just a blank piece of paper and he was like, 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.319 so what can you do with the blank piece of paper? 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:15.680 I was like, put anything you want on it. 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.080 He's like exactly, He's like, you need to like separate 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.440 yourself from like the verbiage and from the character and 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.000 just like you know more so just like feel it 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:28.160 and just like kind of just embody the character a 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:28.759 little bit more. 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:29.000 Yeah. 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:30.839 So I've been working on that a little bit. But yeah, 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.520 he's been helping me a lot with just like stepping 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.120 out of my comfort zone because I do feel like 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.000 I kind of like just not fit myself into a box. 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.080 But I kind of take it easy a little bit. 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:43.719 I'm just not used to being so like out there. 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.239 So I'm just kind of like working on that and 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:46.600 he's been He's been a lot of help. 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.040 Who better to help you with that, Paul Ham? I 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.040 mean no, I don't know that there's anybody better at 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.160 a promo. Yeah, and that look, if it's not him 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.200 winging it, he certainly makes it look like he's winging it. Yeah, 0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:00.480 it feels it's just very from the heart. Who do 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.600 you look forward to facing the most? I, for one, 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.799 am very excited about an eventual Soul Ruka and Rhea 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:11.000 Ripley match. That is a dream. So who are you 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:11.799 looking forward to? 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.719 So? EO Sky was like my dream match for a 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.640 very long time, and I luckily was able to have 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:17.279 a match with her. 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:18.560 I would love to have many more. 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:20.000 I would love to have a triple threat with her 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.719 and Ria. Oh yeah, But as far as right now, 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.759 I think my next ideal match would be against Charlotte Flair. 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:28.719 Who's her and I have had quite a. 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.200 Few multiperson matches, but we've never been in the ring 0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.719 face to face, So I think I would would love 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.160 to get in the ring with her. That would be 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.600 pretty great. 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.879 Okay, now that you've started to binge wrestling, who's your 0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:41.680 favorite wrestler? 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.480 Guy? Love her? She's incredible. 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:48.799 About that. 0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.920 Her athleticism is something else. So I want to paint 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.879 a WrestleMania picture. Okay, you enter as champ and you're 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.360 played out by your and the skeleton. Yes, I know 0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:06.320 they recently made a track. She'll snatch your soul inspired 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.040 by you. Do you think you can manifest this? 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.440 I would love to. Yeah, that is like, yeah, that 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:11.640 is my goal. 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.879 Okay, goal dream, another thing to add to your manifestation board. 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.799 Now you are still in your first year on the 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:24.040 main roster, already with a title. What is the next 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:25.319 goal for you? 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.840 I mean, I just want to be involved in like 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:30.920 everything I want to be, you know, in all the 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.880 like ladder matches and all the crazy like stipulation matches, 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.640 Like I love that kind of stuff. So and it's 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.840 just it's kind of hard to have like tangible goals 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.760 here just because like things change so fast and so frequently. 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.239 Like obviously I want to main event WrestleMania, Obviously I 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.600 want all the titles. But I think for me, I 0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.440 just want to do as much as possible within my career. 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:54.040 It's so great too, because you're at such a perfect 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.719 position to say I want to try that. Now, let 0:50:57.760 --> 0:50:59.560 me try that. Like even just hearing you talk about 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.080 working on on you know, cutting promos with Paul, you 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:08.359 can taste every side of the business and find all 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.760 of your strengths and then play to those strengths. 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.040 Yeah, that's like the one really really cool thing about 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.600 wrestling is like if you're you know, not good at 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.400 this thing in the ring, we can work around it, 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.239 and we can figure out like what your strengths are 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.960 and play into that and like and then make magic. 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.799 It's really really cool. 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.799 You're talking about ladder matches and all this stuff. Is 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.560 there anything out there in the world that's that scares 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.520 you in the wrestling world, Like, is there one You're like, 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:30.440 I don't want to do that one. 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.800 I mean, I feel like when we're thinking about ladder 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.320 matches or when we're like practicing going up ladders and stuff, 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.160 that's terrifying. But like once I'm in the match, like 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.640 it's good time and I'm not thinking about anything other 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:41.879 than what's going on. 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.319 Yeah, yeah, I know. I feel like that has to 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:47.880 be what it is. Because if you think about like 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:51.080 anything we're doing with a show, if there's any sort 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:56.760 of fear before once the audience is there and once 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.759 it's nothing's gonna stop you. 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:00.839 Yeah, I get, I mean, I guess, but then there's 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.920 certain visceral fears, Like I have a fear of heights, 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.160 so like a ladder, like the idea, I guess I would. 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.120 I can see just like, no, you're just doing it 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:08.520 because we've rehearsed it, we've done it. 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.360 But I wonder if I would be able to conquer 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.080 that fear, because I'd be like, I want to get 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:14.879 up on a ladder that right now. 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:16.640 I mean hearing her talk about the way she felt 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.279 after tearing her a c L that that for me 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.960 would be very difficult to have an injury that you 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.560 get in the ring and then to spend a long 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.120 time rehabbing and recovering from it, and then you're like, 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:31.040 all right, they've all said I'm ready to do it again. Yeah, 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.279 but what if you know like that? That would be 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:33.880 hard for me. 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:35.799 I get that too. But if you don't do it, 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.600 you don't get the belt. 0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:37.000 I know. 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:42.719 Look incredible. 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.880 Thank you so much for being here. We are big fans, 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:48.680 really excited to watch you and see where your career 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:49.359 continues to go. 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:50.719 Thank you, guys, thanks for having me. 0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:53.399 Thank you for listening to this episode of Pod Meets World. 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.480 As always, you can follow us on Instagram pod meets 0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.480 World Show. You can send us your emails pod meets 0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.920 World Show at gmail dot com. 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