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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jenna Kramer and I've Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to tell everyone about what we discarded

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Speaker 2: in our life this week. Something that's a necessity to

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Speaker 2: you in a complete and utter waste of time.

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Speaker 3: To me, Yes, let's unpack it because.

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Speaker 2: It lies in the corner of the room.

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Speaker 3: It lies in the corner of the room because.

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Speaker 2: We've not actually got rid of it yet, which means

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Speaker 2: you're still lingering onto it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because it's still in the corner of

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Speaker 3: the room because you got rid of it, and it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things where I'm like, do I have

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Speaker 3: to be the one to put it away?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of still leaving it there, just in

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Speaker 2: case you think I'm still attached to that and you

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Speaker 2: drag it back in. So what we're referring to is

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Speaker 2: the useless sheet that is underneath the dovey on the bed,

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Speaker 2: the one that makes the bed difficult to make, the

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Speaker 2: one that gets tangled in your feet, the one that

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Speaker 2: makes you sweated on the night, and there's just a

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Speaker 2: complete and utter nuisance.

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Speaker 3: The sheet underneath the comforter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the stupid thin sheet. There's no use to man

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Speaker 2: nor beast, no use?

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Speaker 3: What is your hatred for this? The second sheet?

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Speaker 2: I have a hatred for useless things, and that is

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Speaker 2: a useless thing. It provides no comfort whatsoever. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's just a pain in the ass, complete and utter

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Speaker 2: pain in the ass. My feet get trapped in it.

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Speaker 3: How do they get trapped in the sheet?

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Speaker 2: Because those sheets are built to wrap around your feet.

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Speaker 2: They're so thin that you just get tangled and everything.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is one of those episodes on

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Speaker 3: Seinfeld where it's like the episode's about a sheet, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like the most silliest topic ever. It's

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Speaker 3: funny because it's like, I bet you there's someone else

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Speaker 3: out there that would also be like, I also agree

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Speaker 3: with you. I just have never had someone dislike that

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Speaker 3: second sheet ever or had an issue with it.

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Speaker 2: If you took a pull of women and men and

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Speaker 2: asked the men how many of them would want that

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Speaker 2: useless article underneath the dooviy, I bet I would bet

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of them saying that there's no need for it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a woman thing.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because typically the comforter you don't want

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Speaker 3: that you don't want. Maybe that material isn't what you want, right?

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Speaker 2: Why is it on your bed?

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Speaker 3: Well, we have it. I'm saying like it's a comforter.

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Speaker 3: Explain please If it is, I'm just going to take

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Speaker 3: this to Google. But in my mind it's because the comforter,

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Speaker 3: the material is not the material you'd want for the

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Speaker 3: to be on the skin.

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Speaker 2: Hm.

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Speaker 3: Why is there a second sheet when you make the bed?

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay.

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Speaker 2: So if your offs is hanging out, is at least

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Speaker 2: covered by the.

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Speaker 3: It protects your expensive This is what I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say too. It protects your expensive do not cover. It's hygienic.

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Speaker 3: It provides natural satisfaction and makes a bed look, look

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Speaker 3: and feel cozier. So I will say the middle sheet

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Speaker 3: served as a hygienic buffer. And I will say, because

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Speaker 3: I think people don't wash their comforter as much as

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Speaker 3: their sheets, I could. I could say that if you're well,

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Speaker 3: that traditional debay is the preferred topper when only a

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Speaker 3: fitted sheet is used, because the cover can be easily washed.

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Speaker 3: You can sleep under harder to clean bedding like blankets

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Speaker 3: and comforters when a top sheet is added. I agree

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Speaker 3: with that. So if we're if we're up north, and

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Speaker 3: there is a quilt like my mom, like my grandma's

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Speaker 3: quilt she handmade. They don't feel the softest, So the

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Speaker 3: top sheet serves that purpose.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about anyone else's bed. I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: I was we have a cozy earth the best sheet

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Speaker 2: that you can get in terms of comfort and feel.

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Speaker 3: Yes, agreed. So you're saying we just don't need that,

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Speaker 3: then second sheet for that reason because we don't have

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Speaker 3: a grandma's quilted quilt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need it.

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Speaker 3: It's like a is there anything else to get ready?

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Speaker 2: Child?

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Speaker 3: Get rid of a spoilshot?

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Speaker 2: Trying to say, which is why it now lies dorment

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Speaker 2: in the corner of the room. Until it's permanent, the scarthing.

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Speaker 3: You can just start it. I just I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: at a place where I'm not gonna if someone's gonna

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Speaker 3: put I want to see how long, almost to prove

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Speaker 3: a point, how long something's going to stay in that

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm leaving it there to see how long

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Speaker 2: it takes for you to sneak it back onto the bed.

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Speaker 3: Without me feel if it stays there, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: sneak it back on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it'll be gone within the next ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Can you just wash it and put it and fold

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Speaker 3: it back up nicely into the into the cabinet.

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Speaker 2: Is it a cozy arthal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we could use it for guests. But okay,

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Speaker 3: is there anything else now that I'm just learning my husband,

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Speaker 3: because this is a new rev revelation. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: this about you until we moved in together. Is there

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Speaker 3: anything else that you want to shed or get rid of?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, emotionally, personally, object wise.

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Speaker 2: Not that I can think of offhand right now. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there's a few. I'm sure there's a few. And the

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Speaker 2: room that's not anymore, I mean, apart from your collection

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Speaker 2: of tessues that hangs around there on your bedside.

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Speaker 3: My bedside's way cleaner now since post baby.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Yes, this cot want God? And that

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Speaker 2: feels useless.

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Speaker 3: As my therapist said, anything that you when you go

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Speaker 3: into a meditative state, is there anything that is since

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Speaker 3: it's fall time? It was actually a really good meditation

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Speaker 3: and I loved it. She said, picture the leaves falling

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Speaker 3: off the trees. What are the things that are falling

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Speaker 3: off the trees? That you want to go into the

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Speaker 3: stream and wash away. M hm. I just took a

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Speaker 3: bedsheet conversation and took it.

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Speaker 2: In the fridge. They can go. They're heaviest.

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Speaker 3: Jolie loves those.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you open the fridge every morning, they're

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Speaker 2: just staring at you. Look at me. I'm ugly and

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Speaker 2: horrible and green and slamy.

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Speaker 3: It's because you don't like it. Doesn't mean me and

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Speaker 3: Jolie love pickles. Jolie and I joy me. Julie and

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Speaker 3: I love pickles.

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Speaker 2: They can fall off the tree and go.

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Speaker 3: I was needing more like anxiety or fears or over

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Speaker 3: you know, something like that, not pickles. But okay, what else?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Yogat cartons, your collection of Yogat cartons.

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Speaker 3: That just I've gotten better.

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Speaker 3: I called myself out on that one.

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Speaker 2: Oh have you not You've done that already, okay, because

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Speaker 2: I'm keeping a photographic.

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Speaker 3: Collection, I would strongly advise you not to do that,

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Speaker 3: because I could go around the house right now and

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Speaker 3: go to many of the places in the office, in

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Speaker 3: the room where you have not put certain things away.

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Speaker 3: I love you, babe, and I do a really good job.

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Speaker 3: Because I used to harp in the past, and I've

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Speaker 3: just I've I've let it nick nag, but I've do

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Speaker 3: I do that with you. No, I let it go.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't need to put that cool. Who cares?

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Speaker 3: Who cares? If there's stuff in the corner? Who actually cares?

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Speaker 3: I do care? But I'm not letting it affect me.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not letting it affect me.

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Speaker 2: That's the colner who goes there.

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Speaker 3: It's the first room you see when you walk.

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Speaker 2: In these it's in the corner behind the desk.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. But again it's okay. I don't say anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, and I'm just I don't even let it.

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Speaker 3: love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too.

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Speaker 3: How about this, if you clean up your office, I

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Speaker 3: will get rid of the second bed sheet. I love

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Speaker 3: my second bed sheet.

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Speaker 2: The second bed sheet is gone. It's a non negotiablener.

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Speaker 2: We've discussed it, and we've clearly come to a conclusion

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Speaker 2: that it's useless.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say yes, though I didn't put my input in.

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Speaker 2: One of your big arguments was, well, you don't need

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Speaker 2: to wash the main doovie? If you wash that you

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Speaker 2: would wash everything together anyway, like all is in together.

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Speaker 3: I just think there should be some camp reming this

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Speaker 3: because I do like that second sheet and adds a

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Speaker 3: little extra layer of warmth and cozy.

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Speaker 2: Let's put it up all online and see what percentage

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Speaker 2: of men think it is a waste of time to

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Speaker 3: Do you do realize that eighty seven percent of my

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Speaker 3: followers are females? Yeah, okay, so okay. Speaking of cleanliness

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Speaker 3: and keeping things clean, we have got the founders of

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Speaker 3: clear Stem coming on the show, two females founders about

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Speaker 3: washing your how to wash the face, the face, How

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Speaker 3: to wash your face, the face, the thing we look

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Speaker 3: And there's things that we are apparently doing wrong. And

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Speaker 3: But is there a specific guess that you'd like that

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Speaker 3: of guest you'd like to have on the show, Because

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Speaker 3: this is about adult education, it's not just females. It's

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Speaker 3: not just about washing your face. Gro Go wash your face.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think I love like psychology.

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Speaker 2: So to get like a a real top psychologist in

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Speaker 2: a certain field, and it doesn't even if it's like

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Speaker 2: in psychology, I think that could be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, we love a good psychologist on the show, so

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Speaker 3: we'll stay tuned for that. But in the meantime, let's

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Speaker 3: go back to the face washing. Let's get them on.

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Speaker 3: Alan just told me a fun fact that I had

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Speaker 3: no idea about about washing your face. Will say that again, honey,

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Speaker 3: I caught it from these guys. Yeah, well, what it was.

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Speaker 2: The interesting fact was, I'm forty three years old and

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Speaker 2: I've just held that you should not wash a face

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Speaker 2: with hot water.

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Speaker 3: As I'm scolding my face earlier this morning with my

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Speaker 3: hot water what why?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, is one of the best tips that everyone doesn't

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Speaker 1: know and should know immediately. Washing our face in hot

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Speaker 1: water actually like kind of destroys the skin barrier and

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Speaker 1: creates a ton of inflammation and it accelerates aging. For

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Speaker 1: heat d natures or kills protein and that's what our

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Speaker 1: skin's made of. It also strips our natural oil and

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Speaker 1: it sends our sabaceous glands into hyperdrive, so they're like

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Speaker 1: But then by like eleven th your oily again right

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Speaker 1: with this thick oil. But throughout all that your barrier

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Speaker 1: which is the ultimate thing that ages us. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: Are we are big proponents that skin health and whole

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Speaker 3: That's great information.

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Speaker 4: you go to the Italian wine section, it'll be labeled

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Speaker 4: DOC or DOCG and that's Italy's regulatory commission when it

436
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: comes to wine, to basically say hey, this wine is clean,

437
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: we don't put any additives in it. So I just

438
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: really love to choose quality when I do have a drink.

439
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: I just wrote that down.

440
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: Thank you.

441
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 3: That's very good information. What okay, So you guys are

442
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: the first skincare line that has aging and acne together. Yeah,

443
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: how is that? How is that the case, Like, you

444
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like because it's is it the

445
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 3: other skincare brands are just trying to target one thing?

446
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: I feel like those are two things that have been around,

447
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: you know.

448
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: Those are two things that generally cancel each other out.

449
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: Most acne products are incredibly drying, They're harsh, they destroy

450
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: your barrier. They lead to a little bit appealing and redness,

451
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: and then most anti aging products have those poor clogging

452
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: filler agents that break people out. So traditionally, if you

453
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: were someone with acne who also wants to age while

454
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: you had no good options, acne products destroy your skin

455
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: and make you age faster because of the damage they

456
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: do to the barrier. Anti aging products just break you

457
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: out and cause more acne. Right, So people are choosing

458
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: an acne product over here and then an anti aging

459
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: moistories are there, and they're essentially canceling each other out.

460
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: We recognized this problem really early on. You know, I

461
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: just I'm about to turn forty in a couple of

462
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: days actually, but I'm still extremely acne prone. So this

463
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: was very, very very important to me when we were

464
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: establishing who clear Stem was that it was going to

465
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: be anti aging meets anti acne, and other brands have

466
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: tried it and they didn't succeed, So we knew that

467
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: we had an uphill battle. But we learned from what

468
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: had gone wrong before, and we knew how we needed

469
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: to be spoken to and how we needed these two

470
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: things explained to us as our own consumer in order

471
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: to make it land. So that has been like the

472
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: journey of clear Stem is to explain that you can

473
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: have both and why it didn't exist before. So, for example,

474
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: we do have some OTC acne products that have things,

475
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, like sulfur. We also use mendelic acid, which

476
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: is like the hero of acne products. It unclogs your

477
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: pores and kills bacteria and helps with fungal acne, right,

478
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: Like that is the best acne acid, right, And then

479
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: we have anti aging ingredients layered in all of our

480
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: other products, like our moisturizer has no poor cloggers of course,

481
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: but it also has plant stem cells and bacouchiol which

482
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: stimulate collagen and give your skin the perfect like food

483
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: that it needs in order to regenerate and age well.

484
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: So we get rid of the acne without harming the barrier.

485
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: We give tips like don't wash with hot water, right,

486
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: so we're not we're eliminating damage at home, right, and

487
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: then we are repairing the skin at the same time

488
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: with your very next step. So it really just requires

489
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughtfulness and really good formulation background, which

490
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: we've got.

491
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: What's the best anti aging ingredient in a skincare line.

492
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: By and large, peptides. Yeah, and there's different kinds of peptides,

493
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: but you can think of peptides simplifying it, think of

494
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: them as little messenger proteins that tell your skin to

495
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: fix itself. They tell your collagen to rebound and repair,

496
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: which is hugely important because acne and the bacteria that

497
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: exists within acne inflammation destroys your hyaluronic atht. It destroys

498
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: your collagen, so you can get rid of the acne

499
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: and then be left with damaged collagen, which is like

500
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: the case for pretty much everyone. So we knew we

501
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: had to layer peptides in with our ingredients to make

502
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: sure that the acne was going away, And the very

503
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: next signal that was given to the skin was to repair, repair, repair.

504
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: Isn't there something Retinol is supposed to be in things too,

505
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: for your nighttime. Doesn't that help with aging?

506
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: Or no RETINL is known for anti aging. We are

507
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: not huge fans of it. We're really really not fans

508
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: of the prescription strength RETINL it's called no in or retine.

509
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: We're not fans of that. Most estheticians aren't because it

510
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: can just be really problematic and create a purge that

511
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: just never seems to go away. And I feel that

512
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: mendelic acid is just far superior for most people. A

513
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of people have retinols that they love, their skins

514
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: gotten used to them, they swear by them. That is

515
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: all well and good for them. We want everyone to

516
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: know what's working for their skin and to just feel

517
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: happy using it if they found their magic routine. We're

518
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: not huge fans of retinyl because of the added sun

519
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: sensitivity that can occur, and most of our customers are

520
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: trying to clear their poor So mendelic acid is just better.

521
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, the thing about the thing with bikuccil,

522
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: which is that natural retinyl alternative that's what we love

523
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: and celebrate more. It behaves very similarly to retinyl, but

524
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't have any of the unwanted side effects like

525
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: peeling or purging or sun sensitivity, so we go to the

526
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: bakucial route.

527
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: Babe, Sorry, I have one more question, So getting really

528
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: girly here, I'm sorry. I'm struggling with malasma. Do have

529
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: anything that can help with that? Because we just had

530
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: when not we just had but nine months ago we

531
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: had a baby, and I never had the post partum malasma,

532
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: but it has been so bad with this baby, and

533
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: I just I've tried lasers in this and other I've

534
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: tried the Hydra whatever it is, the yeah, Hydra kernone,

535
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: and it's just not getting better. And it's just it's

536
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: frustrating because I don't like to wear makeup, so but

537
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm constantly and he's always hearing me in the bathroom,

538
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: just been like I look ugly and I have to

539
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: put I have to cover this up all the time,

540
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: and I'm trying these peach different concealers and you know,

541
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: because I just again I just don't love Usually I

542
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: would never really put any makeup on. So it's just frustrating.

543
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: Like when I, you know, go to a job, I'm like, oh, sorry,

544
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: I got malasma here and here and here, and you

545
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: get to cover it up. But I just haven't found

546
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: anything that works. So does do you have anything in

547
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: your products or do you have anything that you can recommend.

548
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: Yes.

549
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: First of all, I struggled with malasma too. I still

550
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: have a little bit left. Mine came from doing aggressive lasers.

551
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't love heat treatments formalasma. I find them to

552
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: be very temporary and then it can often come back worse.

553
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it came back worse. I get the

554
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: ultra the Ultra clear, and it was for seven days

555
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: and they're like, it's going to go away, and I

556
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: come back and I'm like, it's now. I have it

557
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: on my nose, which I never had, and then I

558
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: came back like worse.

559
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's what happened

560
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: to me. Mine even came back with mormalasthma in places

561
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have it as well. And then I also

562
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: got hypopigmentation, which is when it turns white and it's irreversible.

563
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: So I feel you. The pigmentation struggle is real. Malasma

564
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: is generally related to estrogen, though, so it can be

565
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: triggered by heat, you know, direct sum light, anything like

566
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: a heat treatment as well. But it is directly related

567
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: to estrogen, so helping your body metabolize estrogen is really

568
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: really helpful. You do that by supporting your liver. The

569
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: liver is like the quarterback of your you know, hormone

570
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: processing systems. Something called DIM. Have you ever heard of dim?

571
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: Okay dim? It is really helpful. It helps the body

572
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: metabolize unprocessed estrogens, which we all need help with, even

573
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: the fellas, right, so you know, check with your doctor

574
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: of course, but between one hundred to one hundred and

575
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: fifty milligrams of DIM per day is generally that sweet

576
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: spot and that can make a significant difference. There's also

577
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: something called indol three carbonyl which is very similar to DIM.

578
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: The body metabolizes it into DIM as needed, but that

579
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: can be like a more gentle precursor to DIM too.

580
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: So I would stick with those two options and just

581
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: really support your liver. Milk thistle, dandy lyon, you know,

582
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: having really good herbal teas every day. There's just so

583
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: much you can do to support your liver and factoring

584
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: that into your day to day lifestyle is like super

585
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: helpful and Kaylee has a lot more information on that

586
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: as well.

587
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: Spearmint tea is another one of my favorites for in

588
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: the evening, spearmint tea in the evening, it's two to

589
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: three cups today of spearmint tea. If you love like lattes,

590
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: you can also go like instead of the London fog

591
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: a latte that's like the Earl gray and a milk

592
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: to it. I love like a spearmint tea with like

593
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: an almond or a coconut or whatever your choice of

594
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: milk is, and even like a little bit of honey.

595
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: It's so good if you want like more of a

596
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: latte foamed version of spearmint. But that is incredible for

597
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: estrogen metabolism.

598
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: It also helps the testosterone too. Peppermit and spearmint are

599
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: just so powerful.

600
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: Love them both interesting. You don't have to inject your

601
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: rs with testosterone, babe, just a string some spearmint.

602
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: Oh, we got some tips if you want to increase testosteruone.

603
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: Because we actually we educate a lot of women on

604
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: the reverse, since a lot of women deal with skin

605
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: conditions because of high level the testosterone, like pcos, we

606
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: educate how to metabolize and bring down testosterone. So it's

607
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: literally removing the things that trigger it. So we do

608
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: have more natural things to help increase testosterone levels. It's

609
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: just the reverse. So like high levels of vitamin D

610
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: and zinc are really healthy for men to increase testosterone

611
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: levels without if you don't want to go the synthetic

612
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: injection route. So that's really helpful. And then for women

613
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: who are struggling with high levels of testosterone, that's what

614
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: we recommend actually auditing out of like making sure they're

615
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: not having too much excess vitamin D, zinc, and V

616
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: twelve because all three of those raised testosterone levels.

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00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: So I'm super low in testosterone. I'm a three. I

618
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: know it's supposed to be like I think fifteen above.

619
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: So like I've been trying to like upmine, so but

620
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: zinc and D that's good. I do take a lot

621
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: of those, so love to get more on that. So

622
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: there's actually no topical thing for malasma.

623
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Then well it depends on the route you want to take.

624
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: So mendelic acid our clearity formula is actually incredibly helpful

625
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: for it because I struggled with that. That was one

626
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: of the benchmarks that I was looking for for its

627
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: brightening possibilities, right, So before I approved this formula to

628
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: go into production, I made sure that it was helping

629
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: with my malasma, and it was literally breaking it up.

630
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: And I saw that with all my clinic patients that

631
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: tested it as well. So our clarity does really help,

632
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: and it's safe enough to use, like multiple times a week.

633
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: You can use hydro canone. It's better to just cycle

634
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: with it than to use it for prolonged periods of times,

635
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: as it is known as an endocrine disruptor. But if

636
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: you have you know, relea stubborn malasma and you want

637
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: to do a cycle with it, it can really work

638
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: for some people. It's just think of it as a

639
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: short term like bring it in the big guns kind

640
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: of you know mode, and then you relay on. You

641
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: rely on something like clarity for daily So vitamin C

642
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: is also very helpful.

643
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: Get clarity, got it? Okay, I'm writing all my notes.

644
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: I would do vitamin C in the morning and then

645
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: clarity at night.

646
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: Okay. Vitamin C in the morning, okay, and.

647
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: Then a reminder with your hot water because you mentioned

648
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: that you do watch your base in hot water, so

649
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: just the reminder that makes malasma worse.

650
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I know. When I get out of the shower,

651
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, it looks like someone beat

652
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: me up. Like that's how like dark my malasma is.

653
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why it's gotten worse. So once you

654
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: stop doing that, you transition to cool in the morning

655
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: and only lukewarm at night, it's going to start to

656
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: go away. And that's probably why the hydroqedone wasn't even

657
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: working on you.

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: Because but I can't not take hot showers, but just

659
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: not on the face, not on the money maker body.

660
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: What about the steam? Like I like to I like

661
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: to sit here as a steam and debate my life

662
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: and just like think about like like that. But I'm

663
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: just like you know, that's where I always just going

664
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: to think, you know, like what am I doing with

665
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: my life? Where do how do I feel?

666
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Steam? We get that question a lot. Steam is great,

667
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: just not direct heat on your face, neck or chest.

668
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Think of your face as your face neck chest. Protect

669
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: it like a little baby.

670
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like everyone who's the best at what you guys,

671
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: make things really simple for people and cut through all

672
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: the smoke as one of than what you think about.

673
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Because I know I'm like in my field with people

674
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: and accounts like that where you must see so many fictitious,

675
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: fake products that give all these kind of deceptive promises

676
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: to people on social media, whatever platforms are on. What

677
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: do you think when you see things like this? Because

678
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: I know in my field, when I see people or

679
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: you should do this and you should do it, I'm like,

680
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: we shouldn't and it takes all of my patients to

681
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: not comment on it.

682
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah.

683
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: If you guys have the same, like, you must look

684
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: at some of these products and think, wow.

685
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: Well they could probably go through my drawer because all

686
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: because I go onto four and I'm like best malesma

687
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: things or this like best for inte Aging, and it's

688
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: like they sell you on all of them. So I'm

689
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: like getting all of them, and I'm like, you know,

690
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: so it's got to be hard for people to actually

691
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 3: make and create these actual products.

692
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. It's yeah, it's it's tough. But

693
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: what we right to focus on. We just bring it

694
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: back because it could be frustrating totally. We keep coming

695
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: back to We're like, Okay, this is how we educate,

696
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: this is how we're helping people get to the root cause,

697
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: and we encourage knowing each other. But our entire team

698
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: that's putting out information, whether it's writing blog posts on

699
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: social media. All of our ambassadors that we have that

700
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: are educating, all of our practitioners, dermatologists and providers that

701
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: we work with like to stick to the basics and

702
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: stick how we can help people. We don't like to

703
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: get into the fluff, like we'll get a lot of qunas.

704
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: Is this good from my saying like all the new trends. Right,

705
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: There'll be so many new trends, and we'll just keep

706
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: bringing it back to the basics, keep repeating those and

707
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: simplifying it for everyone, because at the end of the day,

708
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 4: people do get really overwhelmed with the amount of health

709
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: and skincare content that does exist on social and then

710
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: people either order so many products and it further ruins

711
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: their skin or they just freeze and they feel overwhelmed

712
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: and frustrated. And skin issues like malasma, pigmentation, roseatia, acne,

713
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: they do take hits to your mental health. You don't

714
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 4: feel as confident. I mean, I remember when I had

715
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: really aggressive cystic acne. I was packing on makeup and

716
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: same with you. Yeah, I don't like wearing a lot

717
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: of makeup either, and I was piling it on. I

718
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: was so embarrassed to leave the house. I was canceling

719
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: dinner plans, I didn't want to hang out with friends,

720
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: and I wasn't showing up as my best self. And

721
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: so we understand that skin issues do take a hit

722
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: on your mental health. So we just come back to

723
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: the basis, like what are the foods and the supplements

724
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: that in excess or triggering acne, How to have a

725
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: proper skin ca routine, how to exfoliate, how to restore

726
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 4: your skin barrier, really simple, and just keep repeating that

727
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: for people and it gives them a sense of relief.

728
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: We don't like to switch it up and get involved

729
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: in trends where I can further overwhelm and consume people,

730
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: and we don't want to pour gasoline on that fire.

731
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: So we just like to come back to the basics

732
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: for people to be that safe haven of information.

733
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one big tool that we made for the

734
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: world to use to cut through the bs of the

735
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: skincare industry is our poor clogging ingredients checker. We made

736
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: a checker on our website where you can copy and

737
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: paste the ingredients to anything like Sporia Altech, copy the

738
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: fall Ingredient deck, into the checker and it will tell

739
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: you in red if there's a poor clogger in it.

740
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: This saves so many people from acne. And it's a

741
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: free tool. Even if you're not using our products. We

742
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: want you to have products that are free of poor cloggers.

743
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: And this is literally the tool that has changed hundreds

744
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: of thousands of people's lives.

745
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: I love that. What is your least favorite TikTok based

746
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: trend going on right now?

747
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 4: Sure? Mine? Mine is mine is beef tallow.

748
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 2: I was just about to mention that, Wait, what beef toil?

749
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: I bought it at Christmas?

750
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: You bought it?

751
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: Is?

752
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: All I seen on social media was beef tallow? Does

753
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: this beef tallow? Does that?

754
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen it in the house you have?

755
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: It's did you buy it? Where is it?

756
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Christmas?

757
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: Where did you buy it? For your face or to

758
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: cook with? People are putting it on their face.

759
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, No, I bought it. No, I bought

760
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: it to put on my face.

761
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: What what is it? I've not seen? Ask you question,

762
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: but I haven't even seen it. Have you used it?

763
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: You did? It doesn't smell like beef. It smells like

764
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: perfumed products.

765
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen you put it on. Oh sure you

766
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: you have not smelled like a steak when I've kissed you.

767
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't smell. It smells like rosemary.

768
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: Okay, so stake with rosemary and garlic.

769
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: Right, but that's such a big thing. Is all I

770
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: seen for months was beefta lit be.

771
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: I have no idea explain what is this?

772
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so beef tawel like at its core it's rendered

773
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: beef fat and so I actually I think it's a

774
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: great It's a great product to cook with as long

775
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: as it's grass sed because you don't want a cow

776
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: that's like full of yucky stuff and then you're eating

777
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: the renderings of it. Right. So, but it has a

778
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: high smoke point like a gee butter does. And so

779
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: if you're like making steak or stating things at a

780
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: really high smoke point, it's a great like oil alternative

781
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: cook with because you don't want to, you know, cook

782
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: at high heat with an olive oil or become rancid

783
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: and inflammatory. So the cooking ass bac. As long as

784
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: it's from quality source, I love it. Where anywhere God's

785
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: issues with the face is it is so it's so thick,

786
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: and I mean it's a there's a communogenic rating scale

787
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 4: that basically is a poor clogging scale from zero to five.

788
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: Beef tallow falls within a two to three, which means

789
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: it's like a forty to sixty percent chant of your

790
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: of you breaking out when you're putting on that product.

791
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: It's back to the coconut oil craze back of like

792
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: circa two thousand, like thirteen fourteen, where everyone's putting coconut

793
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: oil all over their face because it was like people

794
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: were saying it was antimicrobial, it was hydrating, and then

795
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: all these people were breaking out with really aggressive cystic

796
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 4: acne because coconut oil is so poor clogging. So beef

797
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: tallow is basically having a huge marketing moment right now,

798
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: the same way that cocona oil did ten years ago,

799
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: and people are just listing up all the benefits but

800
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: not really understanding that it's two different delivery systems for

801
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: cooking in something versus putting something on your face, and

802
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: not all of those benefits translate. And it is so thick,

803
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: it gets in your pores, gets stuck in there, and

804
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: then when skin protein froze over, you're left with acne.

805
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: So I've got a lot of even friends I was

806
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 4: like posting about the other day and they're like, no,

807
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: I got sucked into the marketing. Everyone was like I

808
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: thought I was getting served with ads on it and

809
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: so so it's just it's not a trend IM recommending,

810
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: and I think it's going to die out somewhat soon

811
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 4: once people start to realize how much acne it can cause.

812
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: I feel like it's like the Regina George, you know

813
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like keep this to put this on

814
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: your face. It's like when you put it in the tube,

815
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: like that's literally what it reminds me.

816
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: Of cream on your face. So like peppermint, exactly what it.

817
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: Is, because when it turned up, it doesn't. I've got

818
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: a protein bar company that the base of the protein

819
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: bar is grass fed beef.

820
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: I love that.

821
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: So I've immersed myself and beef products for for like

822
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: four years now. Me my co founder, like, we know

823
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: a lot about beef, and I expected that to smell

824
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: the glass fed beef soaws a bit skins, but it

825
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: turns up and it doesn't. Even you'd expected to be

826
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: like a like a consistency like vasoline or something like that,

827
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: and it doesn't. It's like a creamed, moisturized.

828
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 3: And put it on your face.

829
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: I think the one that you bought is actually a

830
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: formula that has beef tallow. There's definitely some other things

831
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: in it from what you've described, so it definitely is yeah, yeah,

832
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: definitely because beef by itself, it's.

833
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: I don't even know my own husband, it's that.

834
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 4: First of all.

835
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I love how like manly you are. You got like

836
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: the testosterone shots and everything like beef in your life.

837
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah. So the communogenic scale goes from

838
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: zero to five, beef tallow is a two. So if

839
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: you're not acne prone, which it doesn't sound like you are,

840
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: you can probably just kind of use whatever you want,

841
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: and you know that's good on you. It's we want

842
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: people to know if you have acne, it can definitely.

843
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: Clog you up. Daniel, what is your least favorite trend?

844
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: My least favorite trend is I don't go that much

845
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: on tiktoc because I find it to be a black

846
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: hole vortex. I cannot stand the white cream version of

847
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: trettonoen or retine, most of the white cream versions of it,

848
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: because there's a gel and then there's a cream. The

849
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: white one has something called isopropyle mirror state, which is

850
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: a known poor clogger. So why that matters is this

851
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: product is getting prescribed to people with acne, and it's

852
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: making a lot of people's acne significantly worse, like clogging

853
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: their pores while it's trying to make it exfoliate, and

854
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: it just becomes this like pealy, irritated red mess with

855
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: more congestion. And I've seen this hundreds and hundreds of

856
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: times in my ten years as an acne specialist. So

857
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm on a like a mission to like let people

858
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: know to avoid that product and to really just focus

859
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: on removing por cloggers, because that's what it really comes

860
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: down to. And are the pharmaceutical based system that we

861
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: live in just gives you band aid solutions, you know,

862
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: or ones that don't have the entire acne picture thought of,

863
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: and it just diverts people and causes them more scarring

864
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: and more suffering. And uh yeah, we're just we're on

865
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Speaker 1: a mission to flip that narrative and get people really thinking.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Well, ladies, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: I'm on I'm on clearstem dot com right now, about

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Speaker 3: to get some I'm on my dark spot slash melasma

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Speaker 3: section here. So I'm gonna I'm gonna put things in

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Speaker 3: some things in my car. But thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Very insightful.

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Speaker 2: I like you, very insightful.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you boll so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, y'all have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you too, right.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm still laughing about the beef. I can

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Speaker 3: just imagine like getting this like in the mail, just

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Speaker 3: like you're just putting beef on your face, Like.

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Speaker 2: What is like I don't smell like beef.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, but I didn't even you know, usually

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Speaker 3: you're like, hey, babe, I got this new moisturizer, and

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Speaker 3: you just wanted to keep that one private, true.

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Speaker 2: Self, Yeah, clearly it had. It was so unimportant that

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Speaker 2: there's no point you mentioned that.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it. It's so funny because we like

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Speaker 3: to trade things sometimes. You like, give me a good eye,

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Speaker 3: I cream. I love you. All right, we'll go get

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Speaker 3: their stuff at clear stem dot com.