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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Big job there, Coti.

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Speaker 4: Your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 7: Oh good to be back. So good to be back

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Speaker 7: with these two gentlemen. Although you guys really show the

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Speaker 7: So I think we saw the future of the Anaknploring

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Speaker 7: podcast hosted by Brian. Great to be back though. Tuesday,

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Speaker 7: November fifteenth, the year's twenty twenty two It's episode three

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Speaker 7: Coming to UFC Fight Pass in November, Ray Longo joins

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Speaker 7: us off the top today. Ken Flow us here, thank

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Speaker 7: you guys for doing two episodes this week.

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Speaker 8: John for you. We do five episodes all right, So

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Speaker 8: I got it and nobody has the gift to gave

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Speaker 8: Blake you, buddy. I'm listening more and more you. I

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Speaker 8: don't know where you're pulling this stuff from, but it's

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Speaker 8: so smooth and organic and beautiful.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you man. It means a lot, it truly does.

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Speaker 7: I'm really I'm humble by your words. I really am.

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Speaker 7: So that was as sick as I have been day

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Speaker 7: of show since Bellatour ten, which took place Friday, June fifth,

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Speaker 7: two thousand and nine, in Ontario, California. Right, but what

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Speaker 7: are you going to do?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 7: You know, Kenny and Ray Right, Like, it's like if

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Speaker 7: you're coaching, or you're commentating or some jobs. In most jobs, right,

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Speaker 7: there's no calling in sick. Right Obviously, if I woke

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Speaker 7: I was like, this is going to be a nightmare

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: We got through it, though.

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Speaker 8: Somehow I woke up Friday like the same way, and

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Speaker 8: I was kind of not back to normal, but definitely back.

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Speaker 8: I know it was going and everything was going to

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Speaker 8: be good. But everybody was sick. Everybody. Pavola was sick

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Speaker 8: the week before or two weeks before. I must have

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's going around a leave save the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: heard a little bit in Kenho's voice.

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Speaker 7: All right, So we're going to try to fill in

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Speaker 7: So you guys talked about the fight Alex Paeda and

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Speaker 7: Israel out of Sonya. I hope the Anakin Florin podcast

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Speaker 7: the end of the fight. It was not done purposively.

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Speaker 7: Flow haters, I don't know what to tell you. You know,

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Speaker 7: Ray what you said about the rematch maybe not happening

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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely Listen. I agree with a lot of what

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Speaker 6: For absolutely John.

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Speaker 10: So many times you could see when you see someone

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let me just say, just a grounded person. You

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Speaker 8: You know, you got to put yourself in there and

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Speaker 8: And Judge's not take one more shots? Take one more

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, that's a good point. Kentler.

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Speaker 10: I think that Mark Goddard is a very experienced referee

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Speaker 10: of that. You know what, was it just a boxing

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Speaker 10: a boxer who just died or just went into a

432
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Speaker 10: coma recently it was kind of a high profile boxing fight.

433
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Speaker 10: These things do happen where fighters can go into coma's,

434
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Speaker 10: especially when you get a guy like a Pereira after

435
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Speaker 10: twenty something minutes of going back and forth, where the

436
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Speaker 10: guy could potentially end your life. It is serious. We

437
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Speaker 10: forget about that. Autasanya is now preserved for you know,

438
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Speaker 10: hopefully a better fight. He's able to train better in

439
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Speaker 10: the future. We've seen it so many times where fighters

440
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Speaker 10: go to long, they let them know, the referee lets

441
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Speaker 10: it go too long, they get knocked out clean and

442
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Speaker 10: now they're not the same guy.

443
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Speaker 6: They didn't have the same chin, all that stuff.

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Speaker 10: So I did not have a problem, uh with with

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Speaker 10: the stoppage, especially when I went back and washed.

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Speaker 7: I said, ah, yeah, that's.

447
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Speaker 8: You know, I gotta tell you, like again, you mentioned Gastolon,

448
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Speaker 8: but this is a guy that look, it's it's like

449
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Speaker 8: a Chandler against Pory you know those those were kind

450
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Speaker 8: of like arm punches. His hands are up, he's covering.

451
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Speaker 8: This guy had no hands nowhere near his head again,

452
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Speaker 8: and as a ref you got to take into consideration

453
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Speaker 8: who's in front of you. I mean, the guy was

454
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Speaker 8: massive in there next to Abisson, I thought anyway, and

455
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Speaker 8: and we know where he get hit by what he's

456
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Speaker 8: done to everybody coming up, So you know, I think

457
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Speaker 8: there's a big difference if it's Kelvin in there or Pereira,

458
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Speaker 8: and I just think you can't take that shot. He

459
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Speaker 8: took some. He took it upper cut, that set of

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Speaker 8: I mean even that was nasty, was out and then

461
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Speaker 8: the left hook. You know what with Izzy was doing

462
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 8: good the whole fight because of that uput cut Dad,

463
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Speaker 8: he hadn't dropped and then he got smashed. But just

464
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Speaker 8: too much punishment. It's not worth it at all.

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Speaker 7: We have so many things to get to. I'm getting anxious, like,

466
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Speaker 7: how are we going to get to all of this

467
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Speaker 7: stuff in the next twenty five minutes. Longo said to

468
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Speaker 7: us before the show that he had until three pm

469
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Speaker 7: Eastern unless it was like wicked interesting, in which case

470
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Speaker 7: what In which case, maybe your your private Joey from

471
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Speaker 7: fucking Queen.

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a.

473
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Speaker 7: Second, or what if it's really good Joey from Queens, we.

474
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Speaker 6: Gotta go with three fifteen.

475
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Speaker 7: I'm having a good time on a podcast today.

476
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Speaker 8: Joey fucking Mortgage is waiting for me in there.

477
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 7: It's it, really Joey. So in our final few minutes,

478
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Speaker 7: I don't even know where to go. I'm not gonna

479
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Speaker 7: mention this. Uh you know what I'm gonna do this.

480
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Speaker 7: Dustin Poorier is a gangster. Okay. I couldn't possibly have

481
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 7: enough respect buckets of respect for both of the gentlemen

482
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Speaker 7: in this fight, but I just want to center on

483
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Speaker 7: Poorier for a second, right needed the third round, gets

484
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Speaker 7: a finish in whatever type of rivalry setting. This was right,

485
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Speaker 7: but then goes over to Michael Chandler after the fact,

486
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 7: right and says, hey, man, like this is my house, Okay,

487
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Speaker 7: I've been in here thirty fucking times, And I guess

488
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 7: Chandler said back to him at first, like oh, Madison

489
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Speaker 7: Square Garden and like no, the octagon, right, the UFC

490
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 7: octagon been in here thirty fucking times, you know, And

491
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Speaker 7: I just feel like for Poorier, right, like, you know,

492
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Speaker 7: he put a lot on the line in this fight, right,

493
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Speaker 7: you can understand Kenny why and establish UFC contender on

494
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Speaker 7: his level former interim champion wouldn't want to fight Michael

495
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Speaker 7: Chandler in Chandler's UFC debut, right, A guy that potentially

496
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Speaker 7: is going to get fast tracked, even though we all

497
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 7: understand the nature of his accomplishments outside the UFC. And

498
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 7: obviously it's a dangerous fight because of Chandler's explosivity and

499
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Speaker 7: everything else. And DP does it again, man, you know,

500
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Speaker 7: I mean this dude's legacy to me. Uh and and

501
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 7: candidly like and he does it, and he's he gets

502
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 7: hurt and he's still like George sat Pierre probably never

503
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Speaker 7: got as hurt as deep he got like in this

504
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 7: fight alone. You know, I just all hailed Dustin Pourier

505
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Speaker 7: for me on a Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 10: That's all just an insane amount of durability on the

507
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Speaker 10: part of Dustin Poier. Uh. And he's this isn't his

508
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 10: first rodeo, and this isn't his first fight that was

509
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Speaker 10: like this. He's been in so many scraps and I

510
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 10: think maybe at a time when he was younger, he

511
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 10: didn't have maybe the confidence or or the mindset to

512
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Speaker 10: push his pass through these things. Now it's these fights

513
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Speaker 10: that kind of define him, which I think is just fascinating.

514
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Speaker 10: Dustin Poier is a stud through and through. He was

515
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Speaker 10: down two rounds, he wasn't going to get the decision

516
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Speaker 10: he needed to finish. Was able to do that against

517
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Speaker 10: another savage and Michael Chandler. Uh, And you know, for me,

518
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Speaker 10: it's why I picked him. He's more consistent, he's more

519
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 10: level headed. He fights to win. He doesn't care about entertaining.

520
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 10: He wants to kick your ass and it doesn't matter.

521
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Speaker 10: He's like a cat dude. He's got like nine lives.

522
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 10: Somehow he finds a reserve tank over and over and

523
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Speaker 10: over again in a fight.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations dost import him, man, Yeah, couldn't agree more resiliency

525
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 8: times a hundred. Just insane. And he's done it before.

526
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Speaker 8: It's not like again, like he says his first rodeo.

527
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Speaker 8: He's been there before, and experience matters. Man. When you've

528
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Speaker 8: been there, it's nothing new to you, and you know

529
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Speaker 8: you're going to get through it. And he had the

530
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 8: right corner. They told him, you know, this guy doesn't

531
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Speaker 8: belong in there with you. You got to finish the fight,

532
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Speaker 8: and you know, like again we saw some really great

533
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Speaker 8: inspirational cornering this weekend. Also, and those guys at ATT

534
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 8: we does them are part of it also, just you

535
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Speaker 8: can't I can't say enough. I really don't know him

536
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 8: that well, but man, I just knew, you knew this

537
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Speaker 8: was going to be an exciting Yeah, he fight to win,

538
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 8: but man is that guy in exciting fights, you know,

539
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 8: because he fights other guys that they have entertained, and

540
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 8: that combination seems to be a home run.

541
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Speaker 7: I probably have more like personal text messaging with Chandler,

542
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Speaker 7: but I consider both of them friends. But I just

543
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 7: can't help but have so much love for Poorier and

544
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 7: the way he just approaches things pre fight, postfight, like

545
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 7: not here to make friends, you know, like and obviously

546
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Speaker 7: like he expressed some respect on the back end did Poorier,

547
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Speaker 7: which I liked, Like I was scared to fight, you

548
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 7: you know, healthy fear, and I just thought it was

549
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Speaker 7: a fascinating dynamic. And you know, I believe humbly that

550
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Speaker 7: I was the first one to coin you know, your

551
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 7: favorite fighter's favorite fighter. Perhaps not, but I said, justin

552
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Speaker 7: Gaetchie is your favorite fighter's favorite fighter, and I think

553
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 7: Dustin Poorier is very much cut from that cloth, and

554
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 7: certainly Michael Chandler is too. But like if you, I mean,

555
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Speaker 7: how is Dustin Poorier not your favorite fighter on the

556
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 7: short list? I mean, that guy's unbelievable. So and for Chandler,

557
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Speaker 7: you know, I thought Ken Flow was just brilliant without

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 7: me and made me really think on Sunday, Wow, Like

559
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 7: Kenny's so good when I don't have to listen to

560
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 7: John Annick with him. But you talked about energy expenditure

561
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 7: for Michael Chandler, right, like can you just take him

562
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 7: down and put him down? And like, if you're gonna wrestle,

563
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 7: the takedown doesn't need to have all this amplitude.

564
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Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, I don't know if it's him saying, hey,

565
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 10: I'm gonna try to knock him out with this slam.

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know if he thinks he's the

567
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Speaker 10: incredible Haulker or something, and he might be.

568
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's.

569
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Speaker 10: Physically gifted, or he's just so enchanted with trying to

570
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 10: excite the fans that he just can't.

571
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Speaker 6: Do anything else.

572
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Speaker 10: And the thing is, you know, I think it's the latter,

573
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 10: because you know, he wrestled d one.

574
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Speaker 6: He knows what it means to take someone down and

575
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Speaker 6: control him.

576
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 10: But he gets in that cage, man, and it's like

577
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 10: he just becomes an entertainer and it's.

578
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Speaker 6: Tough, but he's a hilarious guy. He came out with

579
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: that video.

580
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Speaker 10: He had the ice on his face, icebag on his face,

581
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 10: and he's talking to his kids that he's explained it.

582
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Speaker 6: Was like, highly recommend you don't go into this line

583
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 6: of work. So he's funny. Man. It's hard not to like.

584
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 7: The guy, but you gotta love the man's.

585
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 10: So here's what's frustrating is he's so capable of being

586
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 10: a world champion in this sport.

587
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Speaker 6: In the UFC, he could do it. He is so

588
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 6: physically gifted.

589
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 10: He's got this faring partners, he's got the camps, he's

590
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 10: got the coaches.

591
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 6: He can't do it.

592
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 10: It's just he lets it slip through his fingers and

593
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 10: it's his own doing. It's not anything other than him

594
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 10: just being a maniac.

595
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he goes from like UFC fight to WWE Superstar

596
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 8: like in a split second, you know what I mean,

597
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Speaker 8: And that's it.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

599
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Speaker 8: I mean, you could see what he did use his

600
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 8: wrestling in the second round, he was very successful. I

601
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 8: don't know, he's just what a great guy. I mean,

602
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 8: I just wish the best for him always because he's

603
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 8: so much. I could watch this guy work out, can

604
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 8: you every day? I'm blown away by this guy's work ethic.

605
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 8: But uh, he's gotta, he's got He's got to figure

606
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 8: a couple of things out, which I think are easily correctable.

607
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 8: I really don't. He needs to talk to and over

608
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 8: and over and over again, and you know, get him

609
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 8: to stop just losing his ship right in the middle

610
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 8: of it.

611
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Speaker 7: Do you have three? Do you have three more minutes?

612
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 7: You have two for you on the way out?

613
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 8: Okay?

614
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 7: Number one? Did you see did you see Hanato moy

615
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 7: Kano's post fight interview after he beat Brady.

616
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Speaker 8: Love It?

617
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 7: That is the greatest post fight interview. And you have

618
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 7: to see history, Kenny, I don't know if you saw it?

619
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Speaker 6: Did you see it?

620
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 7: And how many of the F bombs made it through.

621
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Speaker 6: All the hell?

622
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 8: I think everything?

623
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of it made it through. Were you

624
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 7: watching on ESPN News or Plus or Fight?

625
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 6: Pat?

626
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 7: Well, where were we watching plus?

627
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 6: Yeah? Plus?

628
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right?

629
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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean as far as I'm concerned that's

630
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Speaker 7: the greatest post fight interview in UFC history. Don't at me.

631
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 7: And Moykano knows how to speak English. He knows you yes,

632
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 7: oh yeah, Well, how do you think he was able

633
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 7: to cut a promo that well in English?

634
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 8: Well that's what I thought. But what well was that

635
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 8: a It was a great promo, but was it a

636
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 8: well thought out promo? I thought that led him for

637
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 8: the F bomb all the time.

638
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: No, he's no. So he The only reason why it's

639
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: resonating to the extent to which it is with like

640
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 7: Americans and New Yorkers is because he comprehends English and

641
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 7: he no. But when he's talking about his featherweight candidacy

642
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 7: is like, I don't know if you know this, Joe Rogan,

643
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 7: but I was the number one featherweight four featherweight in

644
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 7: the world. I fought my idol, Jose alb. Whole thing

645
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 7: just great. If you haven't seen it, check it out.

646
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 7: And it looks like he's going to be Hinato money

647
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: Moykano from now on. All right, final thing, and this

648
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 7: is a hard hitting journalistic question for both of you.

649
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 7: Kenny stops smiling.

650
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: This is yours.

651
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 6: Shit, go ahead.

652
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 7: My good friend Bob, who I've known since two thousand

653
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 7: and three, who's in my fantasy football league, who's a

654
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 7: diehard UFC fan, watches every episode of the Anak Employing podcast.

655
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 7: He's a big Brian Petrie fan. He's a huge Frankie

656
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 7: Edgar fan and a huge Robby Lawler fan. He and

657
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 7: others I think are of the mindset that maybe Frankie

658
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 7: Edgar could have had a different opponent or a less

659
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 7: dangerous fight for his retirement fight at Madison Square Garden. Right,

660
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 7: So I will ask you the question this way. Is

661
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 7: it the promotion's job in this setting to forecast where

662
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 7: Frankie Edgar's chin may or may not be, or where

663
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 7: he's at a forty one years of age and give

664
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Speaker 7: him a more winnable fight. Or does it stand a

665
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 7: reason that it's okay if they want to maybe build

666
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 7: a guy like Chris Gudieraz and give him this opportunity

667
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 7: at Madison Square Garden. Where do you stand on that?

668
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a tough one, all right.

669
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 7: You can talk about Edgar's legacy. If you don't want

670
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: to answer that, I be about.

671
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say for me, you're damned if you do,

672
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 8: you're damned if you don't. I don't think Frankie would

673
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 8: have wanted an easy fight. But then again, the Athletic

674
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 8: Commission is they had to protect the fighters. They want

675
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 8: to do that, they want to level the playing field.

676
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 8: They didn't do their job with that. But man, that's it.

677
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 8: It's just tough because Frankie. But I mean, that guy's

678
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 8: got nothing to prove. That guy's a Hall of Famer

679
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 8: through and through. Like I just I don't like seeing that.

680
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 8: I like the guy. I love Mark Kenny, I like

681
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 8: all those guys the Cardival made. That's yeah, that's a

682
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 8: rough one, man. But I think if he would have

683
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 8: taken a less opponent, people would have pitched about that.

684
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 8: You know, so, I think, your damn here, and then

685
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 8: he takes this guy and then you're you're yelling at

686
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 8: everybody for even letting them fight. But I I agree

687
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 8: with Johnath the Athletic Commission was really invested. They would

688
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 8: have looked at that and said, I'm not letting the

689
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Speaker 8: fight have.

690
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 10: I would say it's it's the UFC's job to make

691
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 10: even even matches, matches that make sense for both participants,

692
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 10: and sometimes you just don't know now, sometimes a promotion

693
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 10: will you know, set up certain fights as kind of

694
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 10: like a hey, this is the challenge, this is where

695
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 10: the rubber beats the road, like is this guy gonna

696
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 10: be the next big thing or is that old champion

697
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 10: gonna kind of fight claw who's way back and show hey,

698
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 10: I'm not done yet. So that was one of those

699
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 10: fights where I think that Frankie had that opportunity to

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 10: at least, you know, go out on a win. It

701
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 10: showed that, you know, his opponent was a little bit

702
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 10: too much, you know, he was moving way too well.

703
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 10: I think Frankie's speed, his fainting ability isn't what it

704
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 10: used to be.

705
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: Is takedown ability isn't what he used to be.

706
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 10: And now we're seeing you know, more of those holes

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 10: kind of being exposed. And he's been doing it for

708
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 10: so long. So yeah, it's unfortunate. Like if you're asking

709
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 10: me personally, yeah, I would have loved to see Frankie

710
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 10: have an easier fight, but that's not what the fight

711
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 10: game is about. And I absolutely agree with what Ray said.

712
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 10: Took the words out of my mouth. I don't think

713
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 10: Frank Edgar would have wanted that. Don't don't give me

714
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 10: a gimme fight. I know I could win in the cage.

715
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 10: Give me a guy who's good that I can feel

716
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 10: proud of. You know, my performance, you know if I

717
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 10: do get the win.

718
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 7: And you know, Lenny, you just don't know, right, You

719
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 7: just don't know. It's not as though there's an avalanche

720
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 7: of money coming in on Chris Gutierrez. You know he

721
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 7: opened and closed in the same range. Go ahead, let me.

722
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 8: Add one more thing. I mean, I've been around a

723
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 8: long time and I'm just gonna relay it to like boxing, man,

724
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 8: it killed me to watch Sugar Ray Leonard lose to

725
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 8: I think it was Hector Camacho, who, like in his heyday,

726
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 8: that's not even a fight, you know what I mean.

727
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 8: So I was never into this, I like to read.

728
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 8: That's why again I don't want to beat it to death.

729
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 8: But so I love about Kabee. He got out on top.

730
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 8: You're never gonna have this problem with you. There's never

731
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 8: gonna be a negative thing you could say about the guy.

732
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 8: And that's the beauty of it because, like again, for

733
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 8: the people are just coming into the sport, they're gonna

734
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 8: look at Frankie like that's Frankie. If they that not

735
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 8: really hardcore fit that know what he did against Gray

736
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 8: Maine and ten years ago with BJ Penn when he

737
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 8: was coming up. And I don't like it, you know,

738
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 8: I just I just don't. It's just my personal opinion.

739
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 8: But you know, by you, I think there was a

740
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 8: kid from Westbury boxing that beat Julio Caesar Chavez. But

741
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 8: did you beat Julio Sesara? You know, I don't know.

742
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 8: It's not not good.

743
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you for the extended time, my man. I

744
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 7: have a great private lesson and uh wait, wait, we.

745
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 8: Ain't getting out of you what I was talking about,

746
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 8: my guy, the theme roller?

747
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: Can we do that? Can we do that? I'm trying

748
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: to be respectful of your time. Oh dude, I got

749
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 7: to spend a lot of time with the family, twin

750
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: brother and uh fraternal by the way, not monos, I

751
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 7: got it.

752
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 8: Christmas with the Cranks, no, huh.

753
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, so you guys spend a lot of time

754
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 7: on for Vola, so it wasn't necessarily on my list,

755
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 7: and for that I apologize. But I absolutely love myself

756
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 7: some thatt for Volan. I think to sort of what

757
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 7: Cody Merrow has been saying for a while. You know,

758
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 7: it's not out of the realm of possibility that this

759
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 7: guy can make a run at one hundred and fifty

760
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 7: five pounds. He puts in the right work. He's been

761
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 7: a victim of circumstance at times in his career, but

762
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 7: these these wins back to back were against good competitions.

763
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 7: So I mean, well, you know, hey, some people are

764
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 7: going to say that Atman az ear is limited, and

765
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 7: I will give you that, but he was an undefeated fighter.

766
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on on the steamroller and the

767
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 7: New York thing and everything else.

768
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 8: I think this guy knocked it out of the park.

769
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 8: I mean, like again, I'm not a big fan fare guy,

770
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 8: but that Timmy Trumpet's thing went over way better than

771
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 8: I thought. I wasn't really even sure what it was about,

772
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 8: but now I get it. But listen, that's the first

773
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 8: win this team had in New York. We have a

774
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 8: curse man anybody that foughted the gardener in New York Guarden.

775
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 7: But you guys won on Long Island. I mean, come

776
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 7: out a.

777
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 8: Long Island, yeah, but not in the city. But you're right,

778
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 8: we had to win on.

779
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 7: That Wideman over Gaslam on Long Island is one of

780
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 7: I don't tell yourself short. But yeah, no, you guys

781
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 7: broke through a Madison Square garden that.

782
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 8: Looks like keep it with the garden. Then you know

783
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 8: which was which was crazy? And uh yeah, I agree

784
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 8: with you. It's almost like Chandler, you know, like again

785
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: he just tweeted out and that's true, like after the

786
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 8: McKinney fighter, you know, because you know we had COVID.

787
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 8: I wasn't with him alt you know, there was we

788
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 8: were the whole team is separated by I did say

789
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 8: to him, I ain't watching you go out like you're

790
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 8: way better than this. You got to calm down, you

791
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 8: got to pick your sponsor. It was more you know,

792
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 8: making them box. Uh. So he gets the awareness, he

793
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 8: gets to, you know, how to sit in the pocket

794
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 8: and see things without just blindly rushing in there. And

795
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 8: uh yeah, he's he's on a roll.

796
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 6: Man.

797
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 8: He looks good and he can't you know, he can

798
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 8: hurt you. I mean and and jiu jitsu is good

799
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 8: and his wrestling is good and he gets great. So

800
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 8: he's got everything it takes. If he stays level head

801
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 8: and level headed, he's he can make a run for it.

802
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 8: I really believe that. So, uh, hats off. To Frovola

803
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 8: man I thought he knocked it out of the park

804
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 8: with everything.

805
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 7: Great kid, great family, and the moment to get a

806
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 7: Madison Square Garden crowd to shout back at you steal

807
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 7: right like that on an eternity. Congratulations. I love watching

808
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: you celebrate. I mean, you get these quick wins. You

809
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 7: don't give me enough time to uh to talk about

810
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 7: how you should have got a haircut before the fight

811
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 7: or anything nice.

812
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 8: About I didn't do anything, but uh wait, a couple

813
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 8: of other things.

814
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 7: This Friday ring, Oh what do you got this Friday?

815
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 8: The Risk Ring, a combat, Dilla Montello, Christian Al call you, Almando,

816
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 8: get you. And we also have James the Hipster fighting

817
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 8: on another card Friday night. Then Saday night we go

818
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 8: to Pennsylvania for Bizuoka. Uh, Dennis Bizukia and uh he's

819
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 8: he's looking to make a statement in that fight. And

820
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 8: then Sunday there's another six guys.

821
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

822
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 8: We got Dave, Rob Schultz, Tim Collery, Georgie. I'm reading

823
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 8: Zach Mark because he I can't to keep up with

824
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 8: Wow guy's fighting this week, so.

825
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 6: He's gotten notes. John Oh, I.

826
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 8: Had to have somebody write it down for me. I

827
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 8: can't even remember an you think?

828
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 12: So the team of Franklin Fravola put us in a

829
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 12: good spot, started by Al Joe's and over TJ Dilli show,

830
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 12: and then we get the provole of steam rolling over

831
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 12: his guy.

832
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 7: Let's this train on and I let it's amazing, get

833
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 7: all these wins before Thanksgiving and celebrate the holiday as well.

834
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 7: By the way, do you like that I'm wearing the

835
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 7: sugar Sean O'Malley gear today next to what No, this

836
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 7: is how we balance it out on the Anakin Flooring podcast.

837
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 8: Al you want to know why al Joe attacks time?

838
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 8: What about this?

839
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 7: What about the chicken pound?

840
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 8: Chicken pound? I would die chicken John. When you're away

841
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 8: and you're eating bed and you come home, you just

842
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 8: let that chicken go. Baby, You're back to healthy eat.

843
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 8: I feel great again.

844
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 6: That's amazing.

845
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 7: Chicken pound, chicken pound?

846
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 8: Did you get Kenny's O press speech on the fight?

847
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 6: Did you get do you know.

848
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 8: What? On fire? This guy was? Nobody could slow him down.

849
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 7: He was incredible and until his technical issues intervened, but yes,

850
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 7: he was cussing a lot. It was glorious.

851
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 8: Love it.

852
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: Hey, I mean, dude, I would love to keep you

853
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 7: a part of this conversation. Do you have a herd

854
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 7: out or not?

855
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 8: What time is it? It's three twelve, Let's go three

856
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 8: more minutes? All right?

857
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 7: Do you want hard hitting or like soft tissue?

858
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 8: Now? Anything that makes you happy? Okay, honey, flid that

859
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 8: I could paul my success and to the success of

860
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 8: the podcast. If I make you got, you got, I'm

861
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 8: going to for I'm gonna force it.

862
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 7: Well, Hey, no, I know, just know that like next year,

863
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 7: there might actually be something to celebrate as far as

864
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 7: the Anakin flor In podcast is concerned.

865
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 8: Right, Ken, the car we haven't I picked up from

866
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 8: the quich Show.

867
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 9: Sorry, but well we know you have a new car.

868
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 9: If you fall around Instagram.

869
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 6: Hey, ye oh god, don't start. Don't start wake.

870
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 8: Here next week. Remind me about where my car is.

871
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 8: They took it away from.

872
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 7: Me last thing. Somebody can me thank you again for

873
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 7: shouting out all your local athletes' first name only. We're

874
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 7: live on one on six point seven. If you want

875
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 7: to go over to the shack Din on Friday night,

876
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 7: you can see Zach and Alex compete. All right, Ryan

877
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 7: span over Dominic rays by knockout at one twenty of

878
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 7: round one. Go ahead, Ray, all.

879
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 8: Right, that's hard to watch. You also, man, this guy's

880
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 8: luck is.

881
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: He's probably not hard.

882
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 7: If you want of Ryan SPAN's children though.

883
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, No Span Spans an animal. No,

884
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 8: he's got great hands. You know, I tell you, here's

885
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 8: here's where I get. This is crazy and you know

886
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 8: out in the universe. But I'm telling you, if Dominic

887
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 8: Ray is what they would have given him that decision

888
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 8: in that Jones fight, this ship's not happening. I really

889
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 8: believe that. Why, Oh, don't ask me. It's just you know,

890
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 8: you get I just think they have a way of

891
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 8: knocking you down and you don't come back from that.

892
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 8: You know, it was that guy won that fight and

893
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 8: he never got the chance. Now he's never going to

894
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 8: get the chick.

895
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 7: Well, I respectfully disagree on that, and I'm not saying

896
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: it's neither hit nor there. I think it's relevant to

897
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 7: the conversation. Kenny knows what I'm going to say. I'm

898
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 7: not in the business of retiring fighter. But I also

899
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: can't quantify what playing defensive back at Stony Brook, what

900
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 7: type of impact that had on What are you laughing at?

901
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: You're right, though, you.

902
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 7: You ever play strong safety, right, you get going twenty

903
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 7: five miles per hour, crack somebody with your head every

904
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 7: day in practice. And then that was done way before

905
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: the fight, and he was a four year starter. Right now,

906
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 7: I don't want to take anything away from Ryan Span.

907
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 7: It was an amazing jab and Ryan Span is really

908
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 7: starting to believe that he can be a world champion Physically.

909
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 7: He seems to have a lot of the tools. He's

910
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 7: got chokes to Ken Flow loves sub Michigan, but.

911
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 8: Jones couldn't do that to him.

912
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 7: Kenny, it's four straight losses, I believe for dominic rays.

913
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 7: But he had a lot of success against jury pro Huska.

914
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 7: The last time we saw him, that was May of

915
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one. He has changed camps. He's in Danbury, Connecticut,

916
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: under the watchfula for Nelli Felice Senior and Glover to Shia.

917
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 7: What do you do if you're Don Reyes on the

918
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 7: heels of this fourth consecutive knockout law well, no, the

919
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 7: last three by knockout.

920
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 6: I guess man, this sport is crazy.

921
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 10: You know a buddy of mine, an actor, the great

922
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 10: John Tucker, John Tucker from Charlestown. He said you know,

923
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 10: you could be drinking the wine one day and squeezing

924
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 10: the grapes the other. And that is definitely the case

925
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 10: in life, and it's the case in mixed martial arts,

926
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 10: where you could be riding high and all of a

927
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 10: sudden you're just fighting for your career. Dominic rays for me,

928
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 10: he got a little emotional, he lost his composure, and

929
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 10: he just started in a straight line towards Span, a

930
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 10: guy who hits extremely hard, and that doesn't work out

931
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 10: well when you start to get into the heavier weight classes.

932
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 10: And I think he just ran right into that job.

933
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 10: And that was after he had already been kind of

934
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 10: stunned with a punch or two. So for me, I

935
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 10: think it was a technical aera. What kind of damage

936
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 10: is taking its toll on him at this stage of

937
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 10: his career. I don't know exactly. Span hits hard. He

938
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 10: could put you out even if you've never been knocked out,

939
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 10: never played football in your life. But those things do matter,

940
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 10: Those things do have an impact, Those things do add up.

941
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: I hope that Dominic is able to look at.

942
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 10: That and say, here is the mistake, here is the

943
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 10: technical flaw, this is we're gonna learn from I'm gonna

944
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 10: keep my composure.

945
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna reset.

946
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 10: I'm gonna look for angles better next time, you know,

947
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 10: maybe clinch with him instead, whatever it is. You know,

948
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of things he can learn

949
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 10: from this. I do think he still has talent. But man,

950
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 10: you know, I don't think he made the best decision

951
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 10: there against Span at that moment in time.

952
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 8: He's got to take some time off. He already did.

953
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 8: But obviously that you know, Uh yeah, I don't know.

954
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 8: I mean, I agree with you, Kenny, but is that

955
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 8: part of all the losses in the row? You know

956
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 8: what I mean, That's what I'm saying, Like, why you

957
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 8: make that decision?

958
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: You know?

959
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 8: I don't know. It just seemed like when he was

960
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 8: on a roll, he wasn't making those decisions. Now he is,

961
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 8: and obviously he can't take the punishment. It's just he's

962
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 8: in a weird spot, man, very weird spot.

963
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 7: Yeah.

964
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 8: I don't think you come back from that.

965
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 7: All right, buddy, Best of luck to Dylan Montalvo and

966
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 7: everybody else. Can't thank you enough for the overtime today.

967
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: And uh yeah, I.

968
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 8: Think he just threw me out. He doesn't like he

969
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 8: doesn't like you.

970
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 6: Gotta trade someone right, get out of here.

971
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 7: Well, once you leave, Frankie Edgar is going to get

972
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 7: a little love. Kenny's gonna give us his all time

973
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 7: favorite Frankie Edgar moment, and I'm gonna get mine. I mean,

974
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 7: you want to do that or do you want to

975
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 7: go like, what the fuck?

976
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 8: I gotta get out of here. But I love Frankie Edgar,

977
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 8: guy Hall of Fame, and let's end on that.

978
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 7: Love you you because I gotta squeeze the grape right now?

979
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 8: What do you think I'm doing over here? My whole life?

980
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 8: I gotta go there.

981
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 7: He is the Ray long Every week I'm going to

982
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: go here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. Thank you to

983
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 7: Ray Longo for joining us off the top of the

984
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 7: show for nearly an hour.

985
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 8: What a guy.

986
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 7: So I went back through some of Frankie Edgar's highlights,

987
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 7: and I think for me, a lot of signature moments.

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 7: Right he beat you Ryah Faber in Manila. When he

989
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 7: broke through against BJ Penn and Abu Dhabi in twenty ten.

990
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 7: Some thought it was a close fight, some thought it

991
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 7: was fifty to forty five for Franki Edgar. But that

992
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 7: was one of those moments where you like remember where

993
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 7: you were, right. It was just crazy to see BJ

994
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 7: Penn lose to Frankie Edgar in that moment. For me though,

995
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 7: it was probably the knockout of Chad Mendez because I

996
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 7: just think it was quick and people were sort of

997
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 7: hunkering down for a long fight. I think was Frankie's

998
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 7: fifth straight win at the time, and you know, I

999
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 7: think Dana White had maybe been in the building earlier,

1000
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: but then he had left, and so Frankie took issue

1001
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 7: with that on the microphone after the fact. But just

1002
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 7: an absolute legend right just under eight hours of octagon time,

1003
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 7: and you know, of all the Hall of Fame induction

1004
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 7: ceremonies that we have done, I just want to say,

1005
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward to seeing Frankie and his family

1006
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 7: on the state.

1007
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 6: There's so many memories for me. John.

1008
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 10: You know, one of his first fights, maybe his first

1009
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 10: fight against Tyson Griffin in the UFC, an absolute banger

1010
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 10: back and forth. Saw this kid undersize, You're like, man,

1011
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 10: this kid's gonna be a problem.

1012
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

1013
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 10: The upset of BJ Penn. I remember just being just shocked, like,

1014
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 10: oh my goodness. Then he would ultimately come back and

1015
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 10: win that fight again in the rematch. I think the

1016
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 10: fight for me has to be his comeback against Gray Maynard.

1017
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 10: And you could also argue that Gray Mayner was not

1018
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 10: the same after that fight against Frank Yeker. That was

1019
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 10: kind of the beginning to end for Gray. So that

1020
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 10: was one of the fights that I think really defined

1021
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 10: Frank Jeker and who he was. In that rematch, you know,

1022
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 10: Gray beat him in the first one, and then for

1023
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 10: the belt, Frankie would ultimately you know what.

1024
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 6: Was that the draw?

1025
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 8: Right?

1026
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: Is that the drug? Yeah?

1027
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 10: I thought that was just an amazing performance and then

1028
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 10: he would end up, you know, knocking out Grace. So

1029
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 10: Frankie was just again I said this way back when,

1030
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 10: Uh he was a little a little engine that could,

1031
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 10: and he was constantly the underdog. Uh he was always doubted,

1032
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 10: but he proved everybody wrong over and over again with toughness,

1033
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 10: with tenacity, uh and determination. So uh crazy to see

1034
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 10: a guy like Frankie who's now ending his career, a

1035
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 10: guy who kind of came up in and around my generation.

1036
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 6: Uh, Frankie your a legend.

1037
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 10: Congratulations, enjoy your time with you and you know, with

1038
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 10: with with yourself and and your family and Uh, what

1039
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 10: a career.

1040
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 7: Go smoke a blunt, Frank, Okay, go smoke up blunt.

1041
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: You could do you can he can do a bunch

1042
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 6: of those now. Yeah.

1043
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 7: Shout out to Chris Gutierrez, by the way, who I

1044
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 7: have gotten pretty close with. He's been through a lot

1045
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 7: of adversity in his life and I'm really happy for Chris.

1046
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 7: I was a little bit surprised that he didn't get

1047
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 7: a bonus. How about this live event, Kenny setting the

1048
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 7: record for most first round knockouts in UFC history.

1049
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 6: Wow?

1050
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was Sam and I think it

1051
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 7: was the number two gate all time at Madison Square Garden.

1052
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 7: First gate all time also belongs to the UFC, And

1053
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 7: perhaps that sort of illustrates to people, like how hard

1054
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 7: a ticket this is?

1055
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: Right?

1056
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 7: I had so many ticket requests that I couldn't honor,

1057
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 7: Like they're so expensive at Madison Square Garden, and you

1058
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 7: can see why. Shout out to Dan Hooker over Claudio Pois.

1059
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 7: What were your thoughts on Pois in general? Right? I

1060
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 7: mean you've cornered a guy who maybe has well, you know,

1061
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 7: Ryan Hall obviously and Claudio Poies get compared, but there

1062
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 7: are obviously differences there I thought it was a bad

1063
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 7: night to be fighting Dan Hooker, who was supremely focused

1064
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 7: on not only some of those leg attacks, but also

1065
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 7: on his own career trajectory and knowing how badly he

1066
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 7: needed this win. Any thoughts for us on the pay

1067
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 7: per view main card opener, which you guys have not

1068
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 7: touched on yet Hooker and Poys, Yeah, you.

1069
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 6: Know, listen. I think Hooker was going to be a

1070
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 6: tough out for Claudio.

1071
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 10: I think that Claudio is an excellent you know, specialists

1072
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 10: when you know, when it comes to leglocks.

1073
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 6: I think he's I think he's very good. Is he

1074
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 6: at the level of a Ryan Hall?

1075
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 8: No? Is he?

1076
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 10: You know, is the jiu jitsu at the level of

1077
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 10: a Ryan Hall? I would say not even close. Claudia

1078
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Speaker 10: has a lot of work to do. Ryan is one

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Speaker 10: of the best jiu jitsu practitioners to ever walk inside

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Speaker 10: the octaviust In my opinion, he's just he has a

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Speaker 10: sophistication in understanding and knowledge that this really high, Okay,

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Speaker 10: above everyone who's out there. But as far as you

1083
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Speaker 10: know the styles, the rolling into the legs, you know,

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Speaker 10: I could see why people are making, you know, that comparison.

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Speaker 10: I think that for Claudia though, he faces an interesting

1086
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Speaker 10: situation where he doesn't quite have the takedown game that

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Speaker 10: is necessary for him to do what he wants to

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Speaker 10: do and take it to.

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Speaker 6: The take it to the mat.

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Speaker 10: And I think that he's not so comfortable with his

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Speaker 10: stand up at this stage of the game, his footwork defensively,

1092
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Speaker 10: When you don't really know what you need to do

1093
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 10: to stay at a harm's way, it can snowball very

1094
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 10: quickly into panic. And that's what I saw with the

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00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 10: Claudia was that he was getting a little bit too

1096
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 10: panicked and the sense of desperation was very evident. He

1097
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Speaker 10: started getting hit to the body over and over again.

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Speaker 10: Hooker once he noticed that, and Claudia just wasn't able

1099
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Speaker 10: to fight through that. So it was unfortunate for Claudio.

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Speaker 10: He's still very young, twenty three years old. I would say,

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Speaker 10: get better defensively with your striking, and you know, as

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Speaker 10: far as Hooker goes, excellent performance for him.

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Speaker 6: He came back.

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Speaker 10: I thought his experience was going to be a big

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Speaker 10: mountain for Claudio to climb. And Dan Hooker is back

1106
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Speaker 10: and look pretty solid out there.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 7: I want to bring big gun Brian Petrie into the

1109
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 7: conversation as we put a bow here on UFC two

1110
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Speaker 7: eighty one and talk about Aaron Blanchfield and potentially time permitting.

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00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 7: Circle back to Joanwei Lee. What's up, big gun?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Boys? How you doing? Good?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Thanks, thank you for ablely filling in just banging job,

1117
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 7: my man. I now know and I have never felt

1118
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Speaker 7: this way in the history of the eight year podcast. Necessarily,

1119
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 7: I mean, kem flock can always do it. But sure

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Speaker 7: he's an analyst by and large, and I'm not cutting

1121
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 7: him down when I say that, but I want to,

1122
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 7: you know, we want to let his skill set shine.

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Speaker 7: I've never been more confident about missing a week because

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00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 7: you can speaking and man the ship. So I'm actually

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00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: taking another show off, okay in three weeks now, I'm

1126
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 7: just kidding. So you sent me a text message, and

1127
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 7: I know that this means something to you because you

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00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 7: didn't send it to the group. You sent it to

1129
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: me personally while I was on the air, because you

1130
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 7: just couldn't contain yourself. And I've told you can text

1131
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 7: me on the air anytime you got you well, please,

1132
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 7: But Aaron Blanchfield, future flyweight champion twenty three years of age,

1133
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 7: absolutely incredible. Before we get to her, I want to

1134
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 7: ask you guys about the crucifix and the referee. And

1135
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 7: I'm not even gonna mention him by my name because

1136
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 7: he's my man, he's a friend of mine. I think

1137
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 7: he listens to the podcast. But I'm just going to

1138
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 7: list all the people that I've spoken to that were

1139
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 7: put off by just how much distance there was between

1140
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 7: the referee and Aaron Blanchfield and Molly McCann. I don't

1141
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 7: understand why he wasn't more urgent with body language when

1142
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 7: a fighter is in the crucifix, even if it's a

1143
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 7: fighter who can take damage, right right. So Anthony Lyonhart Smith,

1144
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 7: Daniel Cormier, Paul Felder, and myself, and I believe maybe

1145
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 7: even Joe Rogan all were put off by that. Do

1146
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 7: we have reason to be? Am I making too much

1147
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 7: of something that I shouldn't be.

1148
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen to me. It was pretty brutal,

1149
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: especially when the elbows started coming and Molly's head started

1150
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: turning red and she was grimacing and she was flailing.

1151
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: You don't like to see those elbows. I watched this

1152
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: with a bunch of people I did not notice how

1153
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: far the ref was. And I'm being honest with you,

1154
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: that's something I must have overlooked. But yeah, typically in

1155
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: that situation, you would want the ref to be on

1156
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: top of that. Move get out of there, move you

1157
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: know you're taking shots.

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1159
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 7: I wasn't looking for a stoppage necessarily, Kenny.

1160
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1161
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 7: I just thought it was really weird, Like the crucifix

1162
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 7: situation is a potentially very dire one that can spiral

1163
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 7: out of control pretty quickly. I don't know. I wasn't

1164
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 7: the only one. Obviously, if there weren't four of us

1165
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 7: who were like, this is weird, I wouldn't bring it up,

1166
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 7: that's all. Maybe it's not a worthy talking point.

1167
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 8: I don't know.

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00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 10: I didn't see a major problem. You know, the cruisefix

1169
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 10: is a problem. We have to make a big distinction

1170
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 10: between guys who are two men who are two hundred

1171
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 10: and sixty five pounds uh and raining down elbows and

1172
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 10: women who are you know what with their weight one

1173
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 10: hundred and twenty five yeah, one twenty five, you know,

1174
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 10: and a male one hundred and twenty five pounder in

1175
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 10: the cruise fix is going to be very different than

1176
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 10: a male who's two hundred and sixty five pounds plus

1177
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 10: in the cruise fix, it's hard to generate as much

1178
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 10: power when you're in close and tight like that.

1179
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 6: Can you generate a lot of power, sure, but those.

1180
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 10: Are going to be the big shots that come from

1181
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 10: the guys that are maybe two oho five one eighty five.

1182
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 10: That's when you really want to watch me in my opinion,

1183
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 10: So the these aren't massive. It's not a you don't

1184
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 10: have a massive amount of space where you can generate

1185
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 10: that much force. In my opinion, I think it's less

1186
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 10: the case when you have lighter weight individuals in there.

1187
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 10: So I think it really wasn't a big deal for

1188
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 10: me some of those shots. You know, it would be

1189
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 10: like she'd get a couple of hard shots and then

1190
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 10: a couple of them would either miss or wouldn't land

1191
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 10: so hard. So I don't really have a major problem.

1192
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 7: Brian as far as her flyweight evolution right now, she's

1193
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 7: twenty three years old. As Aaron Blanchefield, I know people

1194
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 7: are really excited and cold Blood is the perfect nickname.

1195
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 7: I mean it suits her personality and her fighting style

1196
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 7: and everything else. Tyler Santo's potentially gets Chevchenko next, but

1197
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 7: we do sit here right now and the champion in

1198
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 7: this division does not have a fight. I know Blanchfield

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00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 7: is not there yet, but it's not as though there's

1200
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 7: just a million women lined up potentially. I mean, in

1201
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 7: all fewer. What do you think about Blanchfield in terms

1202
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 7: of a timeline to actually, you know, be fighting someone

1203
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 7: in the top five or Valentina?

1204
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the division which was a little thin,

1205
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: and I think Aaron Blanchfield with her style, can give

1206
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: Valentino problem with me. Val Tina the beat her to

1207
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 3: take her off her feet, put her on her back,

1208
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: and that's what Blanchefield does twenty three years old. I

1209
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: love her composure, her meanness, her toughness in there, and

1210
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 3: she seems like she has her head on her shoulders.

1211
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: Watched a lot of interview interviews with her. That's a

1212
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: mature twenty three year old. And I was obviously nervous

1213
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: going into the Molly fight, even though she was a

1214
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: four to one favorite. I thought that was a little juice.

1215
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: But I was a little nervous because if that entered

1216
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: that third round, we would have got to see, what

1217
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: is this twenty three year old gonna wilt or not?

1218
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: But we didn't even get a chance to do that.

1219
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 3: She took her, took her down pretty easily, Crucifix got

1220
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: out of the crucifix again, and then got the submission.

1221
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: I've only text you for two people about like me

1222
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: blowing away Aaron Blanston and Johnson Almeida. I think both

1223
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: those people are special. Yeah, And I was just sitting

1224
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: there blown away by it because I had a lot

1225
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: of Meatball Molly fans around me, Yeah, who had a

1226
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: lot of a ticket on her, And so when that happened,

1227
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: they're like, WHOA, this girl's no joke. And you know,

1228
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: I would like to see her fight top five within

1229
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: maybe one or two more fights. I think she's that good,

1230
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: even though she's not young.

1231
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 7: Kenny. That brings us to Jongwei Lee, because Mark Zuckerberg

1232
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 7: was one of several people to suggest that Jong Way

1233
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 7: Lee now fight Valentina Shipchanko and try to become a

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 7: two division champion. Now, Rosama Unis is the number one contender.

1235
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 7: She has two head to head wins over Jeongwa Lee,

1236
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: so maybe jeongwe Lee would have an appetite to fight

1237
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 7: Rose again. Amando Lemos got a lot of love obviously

1238
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 7: when you guys did a show on Sunday. But before

1239
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 7: Kenny chimes in on Jongway Lee, only thing that I

1240
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 7: could take exception to when Peetrie hosted was his pronunciation

1241
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 7: of Jeong way Lee. So we have a little file

1242
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 7: for you. So I don't know how you arrived at this,

1243
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 7: but even if you were to say Brian like Jong

1244
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 7: way Lee, right like j o n g w a

1245
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 7: y l ee jong way Lee, even though it's Jong

1246
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: way Lee. So Ken Flow like he was kind of

1247
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 7: trying to save you, Like I knew the first thing

1248
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 7: out of Ken Flow's mouth was gonna be Jhong way Lee.

1249
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Speaker 3: Producer of the Stars Cody Merrill's all over the Zangali.

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Speaker 3: But Zangwali was so explosive and fast and athletic in there.

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Speaker 3: We both run Zangwali. If I remember Coranctor now Jean.

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Speaker 6: Zhang Waie Lee is uh. She's first of all, just

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Speaker 6: a tremendous athlete.

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Speaker 3: Zeng Wali lost the second fight to Rose. I'm for Zangwali.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could throw Rose there. You can do.

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Speaker 3: And is not a stranger that.

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Speaker 6: Something down.

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Speaker 3: A man when they're put together back to back like that.

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Speaker 6: I thought he was talking about the movie wall E.

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Speaker 7: I thought that he was talking about just watching Kenny

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Speaker 7: the whole time.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I not even noticed that because I was kind of.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm not a nerves guy. Got a

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Speaker 3: little nervous, and I can be honest with you, I

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 3: would have mispronounced that name regardless, but I miss Kenny

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01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: trying to save me, like, no, no, no, Grong way Lee,

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Speaker 3: you're right.

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say it sometimes again, I got this

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Speaker 3: condition marbles in my mouth. No pronunciation is not a

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Speaker 3: strong suit of mine. I am trying to get better

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Speaker 3: at it.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean I fucking nailed Manadigas the other day, so uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm trying. It's trying, but that was that

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Speaker 3: was a little accumulation of nerves and just trying to,

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: you know, get thirty minutes in and you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: But no, that's very funny right there.

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Speaker 7: And love how about the turnaround time for my guy

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Speaker 7: Cody Meryl putting that together?

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Speaker 3: That's good, Kenny.

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Speaker 7: I do need your shot, your thoughts on Jeongwae Lee

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Speaker 7: potentially moving on up. I mean, the one thing we

1324
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 7: know about Jong Way Lee is that she's probably gonna

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Speaker 7: fight in three or four months and be an active champion.

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Speaker 7: What is your appetite for jeangwuey Lee Shevchenko versus say,

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Speaker 7: jeangwe Lee Lemos.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Zuckerberg, you got work to do. Stick to that.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 10: I I don't want to see I don't want to

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Speaker 10: see her against Chefchenko just yet. I think there's still

1332
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Speaker 10: so many interesting challenges for her in her division. I

1333
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 10: think that size discrepancy. When people see them side by side,

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Speaker 10: I think they'll kind of get it. Chipchenko's not small again.

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Speaker 10: We've seen her, you know, go up way classes and

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Speaker 10: stuff like. I think that might be a little bit

1337
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 10: too much for her at one twenty five right now.

1338
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 10: But I think there's a lot of interesting matchups for her,

1339
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 10: and I thought her performance was just phenomenal here against

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 10: Carlos Sparzan.

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Speaker 7: Fair enough, fair enough. I think it's very interesting. I

1342
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 7: really do. I think I'm Mondo Lemos might be the

1343
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Speaker 7: one who gets the championship opportunity. All right, Well, we

1344
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 7: got some picks to make. Unless I left anything out

1345
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 7: of our UFC two eighty one recap, again, we have

1346
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 7: more content a couple of days ago, if you want

1347
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 7: to check that out. Certainly we'll fill in some of

1348
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 7: the gaps that we may have left here. We do

1349
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 7: have a pronunciation of the week. I don't know if

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01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 7: Cody Merrow wants to fucking four box this thing, or

1351
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 7: what did that Sergey Spivoc file come through? As I

1352
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 7: just said his name.

1353
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Speaker 6: Gimme but it isn't you know.

1354
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 7: And it's good to see you, buddy. Thanks for the

1355
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 7: quick turnaround on that audio.

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Speaker 3: In the business for a reason.

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Speaker 7: So some people say spivoc, some say spivak. So I

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Speaker 7: guess I just wanted to really play the file for

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01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 7: the audience and really see what the linguist Ken Flow

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 7: had to say, and uh, what's your what's your your

1361
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 7: pass at it? Though, Cody, So I want to say

1362
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 7: spivak spivac, Right, That's kind of how I feel. But

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 7: sometimes when I listen to it, it's a little bit of

1364
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: a of a mind fuck. As they say, let's hear

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Speaker 7: the file.

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Speaker 11: Serge zipular beer spiuoc, serge zipular beer spiok, Sergi zippul

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Speaker 11: ar beer spuoc spivoc spick.

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Speaker 7: Either way, he sounds like an assassin.

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Speaker 6: I care, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, So he's getting the main event against Derek Lewis

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 7: this weekend. More from Cody in the Marrow seconds at

1372
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 7: the end of the show, and we will also pay

1373
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 7: tribute of course, to UH to our late friend Anthony

1374
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 7: Rumble Johnson before we get out of here, of course,

1375
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 7: but we have three predictions. UFC fight night, Lewis versus

1376
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 7: Spivak at the UFC Apex. Always interesting going from the

1377
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 7: world's most famous arena UH to the world's most famous

1378
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts arena, the ufc Apex. Muslim Salakov at

1379
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 7: Welter Waight minus one thirty against Andre Fialio plus one

1380
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 7: ten Brian Fialio coming off that loss to Jake Matthews.

1381
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 7: Salakov had won five in a row before he ran

1382
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 7: into the leech Lee jinglyung, but he's been far less active.

1383
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 7: How about Yalio? What a fucking nut? Right bot four

1384
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 7: times in twenty twenty one, and this is his fifth

1385
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 7: fight of twenty twenty two. Some suggested maybe bit off

1386
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 7: more than he could chew and taken that quick turn

1387
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 7: for Matthews. Start us off, Brian Fialo or Salakov.

1388
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: Well, no one was gonna beat Jake Matthews that night.

1389
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: That dude was on fire. He looked like one of

1390
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: the best wealth rates on the planet. He looked so good,

1391
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: walked through some fire shots, gave shots, and then I

1392
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 3: love the swag after he got to finish over Yallo.

1393
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: Yaho's a guy who I remember from the PFLF. Oh

1394
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: my goy. Chris Curtis lost the three round TKL. You know,

1395
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: just got work to the body. Kimi Yosini has been

1396
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: on fire. He's fought some decent guys. He's two and two.

1397
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: Some of us wins, you know over camer Van Camp

1398
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: who has no win in UFC. But Muslim Saladkov. This

1399
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: is a guy who I thought when he came down

1400
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: to the Uoccen he dropped his debut. But it's like

1401
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: once a year he fights, and it's just he's on

1402
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: a five fight winning streak. Well he was, and then

1403
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: the lead he ran into the leach. But he's never

1404
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: act enough. He dropped a lot of fights. He likes

1405
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: to throw some of that spinning shit. He bounced around

1406
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: a lot, he slows down a lot. And when I

1407
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: look at this fight, I was I was all over

1408
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: Muslim when when you sent me the when you sent

1409
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: me the email, I'm like, oh, this is Muslim all day,

1410
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: because I don't trust Fiallo's durability, right, But then I

1411
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: went back and looked at him and this guy's pressure,

1412
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: his boxing. His overall game is really good, and I

1413
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: think he's only twenty eight and he's getting better. You're

1414
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: giving me a dog price on him. I'm gonna roll

1415
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: the dice with maybe a guy with a shaky chin

1416
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: of a Muslim who I think looked very pedestrian in

1417
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: the leech and then Leach is very good, so maybe

1418
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: the Leachs did that. But give me the dog here

1419
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: in f y'all. I think I think he gets it done.

1420
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if he finishes him because Muslim is very,

1421
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: very tough, but yeah, I think his boxing impressures me

1422
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: too much.

1423
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 7: Cam f love big gun taking the point so to

1424
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 7: speak with Thalio, who do you like?

1425
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 6: Son of a bitch? Yeah?

1426
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 10: I like. I like Fialio as well. I think there's

1427
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 10: a lot of value there. I think that selling golf,

1428
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 10: he's got, you know, interesting background. I don't think he's

1429
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 10: the best athlete in the world, and I think he's

1430
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 10: a little slower uh not the fialios a class athlete himself.

1431
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 10: But I think he's durable, knows how to survive against

1432
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 10: guys like Saladkoff, and I could see him landing some

1433
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 10: big shots at putting.

1434
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 6: Saladkoff down all.

1435
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 7: Right co main event, I believe at light heavyweight. Kennedy

1436
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 7: and Zecha Ku. That's my favorite name to say on

1437
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 7: the roster. I can't smell. I can't spell it like

1438
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 7: Lori Sanko. I don't know if I could spell it

1439
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 7: with my eyes closed. Kennedy and Zecchiku minus one sixty five.

1440
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 7: Iwan kute Laba the halt plus one forty third five

1441
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 7: of the year for in Zecha Ku tkod Carl Robertson

1442
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 7: back in July. On the other side, Briy kute Lava

1443
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 7: beaten by Johnny Walker Blue at UFC two seventy nine

1444
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 7: in September. Haulk has just one win in his last

1445
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 7: six year.

1446
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: Thoughts, Yeah, so I'm not even gonna try to pronounce

1447
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: Kennedy's last name, or you're gonna have a whole podcast

1448
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: full of my blot this year. But this is an

1449
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: interesting fight. I think both guys are very similar in

1450
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: the uf fature directories where I mean, listen, iinud Love

1451
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: is five seven to one. You see him. This is

1452
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: probably his last stand here. He had a good run

1453
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: where he drawled with Dustin Jacoby, who's an elite guy

1454
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 3: and then beat Devin Clark pretty bad, busted up his teeth,

1455
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: and then he's kind of went on a skid here.

1456
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: I like the shaved head cut Laba. I like the

1457
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: new Cardio grappling based, but he's been submitted his last

1458
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: two time out. You look at Kennedy and Kennedy fought

1459
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: Carl Robison and Robison for whatever reason, being a kickboss.

1460
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: I really want to grapple Kennedy and just got stuffed,

1461
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: got put in all the wrong positions and Kennedy, which

1462
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: to me was his achilles, he was. His grappling looked

1463
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: very good his last time out. He's obviously with a

1464
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: great camp. He's getting better. His callers Oldberg comeback was amazing.

1465
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: We look at this fight, man, and it's it's a

1466
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: tough cap. It's a tough This is not something I'm

1467
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: running to the window to bet. But just for the

1468
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: sake of fucking taking dogs, give me Iron cut Lava,

1469
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: because I think if you can take Kennedy down and

1470
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: really use his ground and pound, he could he could

1471
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 3: do some damage here. And Kennedy's a slow starter. And

1472
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 3: as long as Iron doesn't blow, you know, blows. Cardio

1473
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 3: in the first round man, give me give me.

1474
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 6: Dog, give me dogs shot.

1475
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 7: Let's go Bright Patriot taking a shot on Coote Lava

1476
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 7: plus one forty. Kennedy and Zetcha Kum minus won sixty

1477
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 7: five on Draft Kings Sportsbook. Right now, Ken Flow, which

1478
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 7: way you're going?

1479
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 10: You know, it's good to see kot Tulaba switching things up,

1480
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 10: you know, training in Vegas, getting you know, better advice,

1481
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 10: better coaching. I think I just think that it's him

1482
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 10: inside the cage that is kind of making some poor

1483
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 10: decisions out there. He's got a lot of talent. I mean,

1484
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 10: this dude's a specimen. He hits very hard.

1485
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 6: But as Zecha kup give me Kennedy and Zechaku man all.

1486
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 7: Right, heavyweight main event. We'll see if there is dissension

1487
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 7: and we will have Ken Flow lead the dance. Here

1488
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 7: Sergei Spivok minus one seventy five. The Black Beast Derek

1489
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 7: Lewis comes back at plus one point fifty so Polar

1490
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 7: Bear coming on Strong Guys two and oh. This year

1491
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 7: he's won five of six, only lost in that span

1492
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 7: to the credentialed Tommy Aspinall. On the other side of

1493
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 7: Lewis has lost three of four, but that did come

1494
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 7: on the heels of a four fight winning streak. Ken

1495
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 7: Flow twenty sixth UFC starts overall for the Black Beast.

1496
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 7: He's in the underdog role. Here your thoughts on the

1497
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 7: heavyweight Man event this weekend on E Plus.

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Speaker 10: Derek Lewis is a tough guy betting wise, I'm sure

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Speaker 10: you know, just he'll surprise you when you least expect it,

1500
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 10: and then when you think he's got, you know, the

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Speaker 10: ability to win, he'll find a way to lose. Derek

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Speaker 10: Lewis though he is capable, you know, especially with those hands. Man,

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Speaker 10: he's so dangerous. But I think this is a bad

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 10: matchup for him. Why because Derek's not in justessily known

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 10: for his ground game, right and I don't see him

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 10: pulling off any submissions even if he gets on top necessarily,

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Speaker 10: and I certainly don't see him pulling off submission if

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Speaker 10: he's on his back, and I think that's where he's

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 10: going to spend most of his time here against Bivoc,

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Speaker 10: while at last I see Spivoc either getting a submission

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Speaker 10: or at KO by just getting superior position.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 10: I love the way he integrates those takedowns, those judo

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Speaker 10: style takedowns. He's very slick, give me Spivok and I

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Speaker 10: think he's someone to watch in the heavyweight divisions.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I think you put that well. I wouldn't

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 7: be surprised Brian to see that price get steeper as

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Speaker 7: the week goes on. Your thoughts on the heavyweight main event.

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Speaker 3: This is why MMA betting is so crazy. Two years ago,

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Speaker 3: Derek Lewis might have been like a four to one

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: dog or a four to one favorite, even though it's

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01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: a bad matchup for him. He's on two fight skin,

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: but his last two wins over Daalkas and Critis Blades,

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: which is pretty wild. This guy can put your lights out.

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 3: When I first saw Speedbok, he did not pass my

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: eye test. Initially, I thought this guy was a little

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 3: slow on the feet, lumbering. I thought he was good

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 3: in the clinch. He can take you down and obviously

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: ran some blows and he's really falling short with some

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 3: of those high level guys. And Kenny nailed the head.

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 3: Nailed it on the head. This is a really bad

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: matchup for Derek Lewis. I just keep going back to

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: the Alexi Elentic fight with Derek Lewis and Derek Lewis

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 3: just stood up. Lennix like trying to pop this guy's

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: head off, and he just stands up. Lewis is a

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: star and he needs this win here. I think his

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: last time out he rushed it against Paulovich, got ko

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01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 3: and then tied to a Bosa fight. You know, ties

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 3: a great fire clipped him. But I think Derek Lewis

1540
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: is a better fighter than what I think he has

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 3: shown his last few times out. I know the ground

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: game is gonna be a problem there Speedbox when we

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: got one Smisch in the OC, but his ground upon

1544
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: is very dangerous. But I just think the beast is

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: gonna stand up and I always gotta do his land once.

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean, Speedboxman knocked out twice. Old Harris got him,

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: Tommy Aswalg got him. So I'm riding all dogs. Maybe

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 3: get it. God give me the dog, give me Derek Lewis.

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: I can't get him right, but let's go dog shot.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 7: Three dogs from Brian Petrie and if you want more

1552
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 7: from him, he has a podcast called the MMA Takes

1553
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 7: Podcast and on social media. Brian Petrie, Mma, my man,

1554
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 7: thank you for stepping up. I love hearing you analyze

1555
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 7: boxing because I know you know the sweet science as

1556
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 7: well as anyone's a great job in the one chair.

1557
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 7: And hey man, just keep those digits handy because again

1558
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna start fucking skipping shows now. This is fucking beautiful, right,

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Speaker 7: thank you too much.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll see you boys there.

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Speaker 7: He is Brian Petrie with us every week or most weeks,

1562
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 7: I should say, on the Anticin Flooring podcast. Before we

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Speaker 7: get to Cody Merrow and the Marrow Seconds, a few

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Speaker 7: thoughts on Anthony Rumble Johnson, who passed away at the

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 7: age of thirty eight. If you weren't following the story,

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Speaker 7: he had professed publicly to being very scared by an

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 7: illness that he was dealing with, and part of it,

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Speaker 7: non Hodgkins lymphoma I believe, was not believed to be fatal,

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Speaker 7: but there was another disease that he was dealing with,

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Speaker 7: and ultimately he passed away at thirty eight due to

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 7: Oregon failure. You know, I was with Daniel Cormier doing

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Speaker 7: some work in New York City and obviously this weight

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01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 7: heavily on DC, having fought him twice. You know, the

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Speaker 7: first show I worked for the UFC Kenny January twenty twelve,

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Speaker 7: a week before we were in Nashville was UFC one

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Speaker 7: forty two when Rumble fought Vitor belle Ford, and uh,

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Speaker 7: just such a sweet human being For me, he was

1578
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 7: Francis and Ghanu before Francis and Ghanu in terms of

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 7: the power right, I felt like he was the greatest

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 7: power threat in UFC history, at least when it came

1581
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 7: to his hands in his feet before Francis and Ghano

1582
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 7: juxtaposed against his disposition, which was just soft and gentle

1583
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 7: and just a hell of a guy. I was at

1584
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 7: the Patriot super Bowl in twenty nineteen with my twin brother.

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 7: Took a picture my Instagram story and Rumble sends a

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01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 7: message like, dude, that's crazy. There are two of you,

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 7: you know, And it's so warmed my art because I

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 7: had put him on this pedestal and we connected a

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 7: little bit living in South Florida. But I wrote back

1590
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Speaker 7: to him like, dude, imagine if there were two Rumbles,

1591
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 7: could you imagine? And of course now you know we

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 7: don't have any at least in the physical sense, but

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Speaker 7: we love you bro and ken Fellow. Obviously, you guys

1594
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 7: sort of fought at the same time and just an

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 7: inquantifiable loss for the MMA community over the weekend.

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Speaker 10: He was such a talented dude. He was such a

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 10: kind soul. I remember him cutting down in weight to

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Speaker 10: one hundred and seventy pounds, Yes, one hundred and seventy pounds.

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Speaker 10: One of the fights that we were calling john and

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Speaker 10: he was in the elevator and I remember talking to him,

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Speaker 10: trying to lift his spirits, and he was just kind

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01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 10: of gave me just like a.

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 6: You know, a head nod and yeah.

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Speaker 10: So I've seen him there and I've seen him as

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 10: one of the best two hundred and five pounders in

1606
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 10: the world as well. I actually ended up helping DC

1607
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 10: in the rematch.

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Speaker 3: For his fight.

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Speaker 6: That's Anthony Johnson.

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Speaker 10: So he's a guy that I always respected. I thought

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 10: was one of the most danger juris punchers in the

1612
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 10: world at one point. And it was really sad to

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01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 10: see that news man, you know, a thirty eight year old,

1614
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 10: you know, kind hearted guy. Uh, to see him go

1615
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 10: in that fashion, you know, when when he had so

1616
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 10: much to give, was was really sad to hear man.

1617
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 10: So I guess, you know, my heart goes out to

1618
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 10: his family and friends and just a very tough situation

1619
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 10: all the way around.

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 7: We dedicate today's Anakin Florin podcast to Anthony Rumble Johnson.

1621
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 7: I know how hard this hits so many people in

1622
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 7: the MMA community because he gave of himself and he

1623
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 7: gave his heart and opened himself up to to Heidi

1624
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 7: Dean and so many others. So don't worry, Rumble. We're

1625
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 7: gonna keep your memory going. And you know they're gonna

1626
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 7: have to, uh, you know, kill me before I stopped

1627
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 7: talking about you as one of the greatest power threats

1628
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 7: in UFC history. That guy was the man, all right,

1629
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 7: Cody Merrow, I'd imagine, And we have left a few

1630
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 7: things out of this episode.

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, let me come in and open up the

1632
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 9: uh laughs. Huh thanks.

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 7: Well, there were two choices, right, I mean, I could

1634
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 7: end the shop.

1635
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 9: Which, by the way, let me let me hang on.

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 9: Let's say, I'm I'm all prepared. But I just walked

1637
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 9: in the oct gun and I got a Yeah.

1638
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 7: That was interesting that the reference after the Silvana Gomez

1639
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 7: Juarez Carolina Kobo Keevitch fight, Buff goes in with some

1640
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 7: scores and whenever it takes a while you're thinking maybe draw,

1641
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 7: but then a commissioner came in and made some alterations

1642
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 7: and uh, if you didn't catch the post show, you

1643
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 7: didn't hear me say that they still got it wrong

1644
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 7: after all of that. By the way, one of the

1645
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 7: judges the way, so it should have been a decision. Yeah,

1646
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 7: how about that?

1647
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 6: No way?

1648
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, so did the graphics show. So everyone was all

1649
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 9: up in arms water nightmare me at home. But yeah,

1650
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 9: Bruce aok pissed. That's you know, when Bruce is mad

1651
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 9: that something's wrong. It's like, come on, can we not

1652
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 9: be single digit edition here? What are we doing?

1653
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1654
01:15:59,600 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 10: Uh?

1655
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 9: UFC two eighty one put in a bow on it.

1656
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 9: Eleven finishes, tied for most finishes with UFC Fight Night

1657
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 9: Rockold versus Bisping way back in Australia, so setting some

1658
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 9: records there. Tied for most first round finishes with seven. Wow,

1659
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 9: so pretty crazy. It was just crazy top to bottom.

1660
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 9: I mean, Carlos Olberg started off and alis Pada finished

1661
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 9: it off, and it was crazy. Blanche Field with the

1662
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 9: finished Trisano with the finish, just so many almost too

1663
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 9: many to name. Really, it was just a crazy fight

1664
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 9: Night Fight of the Night Chandler versus Chandler versus obviously

1665
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 9: ye performance of the night Beheta versus Our and Zang

1666
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 9: kind of you know, you don't know what goes on backstage,

1667
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 9: but you kind of want to see other people get

1668
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 9: some shine when it comes to the of the performances.

1669
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 9: You know, those guys at the top of the car

1670
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 9: to make a lot of money, so I hope that

1671
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 9: they wet some whistles there behind the scenes.

1672
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 7: They always do, they always do. But yeah, right, like

1673
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,919
Speaker 7: maybe Chris Gudiera, certainly some guys, Ryan Span, Michael Treuzano

1674
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 7: bonus ineligible for missing weight, but yeah, they did award

1675
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 7: the champions with those bonuses.

1676
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 9: And putting a final note on the Frankie Ko. You know, John,

1677
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 9: obviously you got the cans in. So I don't know

1678
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 9: how much NAT sound you get, but I've never heard

1679
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 9: Arena go quiet after a knockout. You know, usually there's

1680
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 9: some people cheering, but MSG was dead silent when that

1681
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 9: knee hit. It was crazy. It was a crazy sight

1682
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 9: to see.

1683
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 7: No, it was eerie, and I probably should have given

1684
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 7: more thought to how I was gonna call that moment.

1685
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 7: I don't even know what it sounded like, but yeah,

1686
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 7: you're sort of not trying to take a moment away

1687
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 7: from Goudieires, but obviously the Edgar story was sort of

1688
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 7: looming over the whole things.

1689
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, so personal highlights for me obviously was able to

1690
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 9: meet your brother Jay. Me and Jay spent some time

1691
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 9: together to remember the show live here. I get to

1692
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 9: break bread with the Antik twins walking the streets in

1693
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 9: New York. You know, Jay was fucking with people all

1694
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 9: the time, all the time. A couple of times, you know,

1695
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 9: people like Hey, John, what's up.

1696
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 8: It's just like.

1697
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 7: He was wearing like a beanie and he kind of

1698
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 7: cut the hair around his ponytail so he looked more

1699
01:17:58,960 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 7: like me than ever.

1700
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: And it was great.

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 9: It was a good time. So I'm going to rattle

1702
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 9: through some of these. I just want to get both

1703
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 9: of your reactions. There are a lot of fight announcements,

1704
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 9: you know, a lot of things that are coming down

1705
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 9: the pike for the ufc U. See two to eighty

1706
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 9: four Perth, Australia, Markot Jeffers's Volkanovsky. You know, give me

1707
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 9: year initial thoughts on that fight.

1708
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it seemed like Volkanovsky was going to

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Speaker 7: get that opportunity right. He weighed in twice as a

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01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 7: backup in his UFC career, and I think this was

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01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 7: the impetus for that and he deserves it, you know.

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 7: Certainly now Pourier, I think is excited because he's never

1713
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 7: fought islam Ma Kashev war Mikashev to get through Volkanovsky Kenny.

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 7: You also saw the interim featherweight championship get announced Josh

1715
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 7: Emmitt Yayi Rodriguez on the same card, so uh yeah,

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01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 7: I mean, I think as long as they're moving things

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 7: forward for at featherweight, Vulkan is as worthy of a

1718
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 7: chance to become a double champions anyone is. See not tenflow.

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, I think from a skill skills perspective, he

1720
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 10: might be the most skilled out of any of the fighters.

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01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 6: Or champions in the UFC, and I'm talking about Volkanovski.

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, but he's going against another guy I like a

1723
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 10: Habib Nrmaga Metov that in his skill set there are

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 10: a few that can challenge him.

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: There.

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 6: That's what makes this fight so fascinating.

1727
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 10: A guy who's so good in one very specific area

1728
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 10: going at a guy who's so good in all other areas.

1729
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 10: So I love the fight. I'm gonna be watching and

1730
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 10: taking notes for sure, two of the best in there.

1731
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 10: And again, who doesn't love when you have two champions

1732
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 10: going at it from two different divisions. It's a tall

1733
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 10: task for Volkanowski because he's going against a guy in

1734
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 10: Mahasha who's a very big one hundred forty five pounder,

1735
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 10: whereas Volkanowski not the biggest one hundred and forty five pounder.

1736
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 10: But if there's someone out there from a skills perspective

1737
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 10: who could do it, it's Volkanowski.

1738
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 7: And I'm so happy for Josh Emmett and Yay' Rodriguez.

1739
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 7: Emmett playing the long game, battling through injuries, the fact

1740
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 7: that he's going to get to fight for a title.

1741
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 7: I mean, Emmett could tear both his knees up and training,

1742
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 7: he's making that walk in Perth, no doubt about it.

1743
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 7: And good on him. And yeah, you're Rodriguez too. You

1744
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 7: know another guy who hasn't found himself in a UFC

1745
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 7: title fight. I can't wait for that fight. Arnold Allen

1746
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 7: obviously the odd man out, but his time' is gonna come,

1747
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 7: you know. I think he might be the best featherweight

1748
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 7: in the world right now, next to Volkonovsky, so we'll

1749
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 7: see well.

1750
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 9: And I think good on the promotion as well, because

1751
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 9: obviously these champion versus champion situations kind of does put

1752
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 9: the divisions in flummox. But having that on the same card,

1753
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 9: I think is just a great matchmaking decision, so it

1754
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 9: makes their lives a little easier. I think.

1755
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 7: Shout out to Sean Shelby who texted me on show

1756
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 7: day that he literally got it done that day, So

1757
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 7: way to go, Shaannie.

1758
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 9: Awesome put in that work. So Dana in that UFC

1759
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 9: two eighty one press postfight presser, did get a lot

1760
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 9: of questions. It was a pretty funny post fight pressor

1761
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 9: if you caught any of it. But he did say

1762
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 9: that Francis versus Jones is likely twenty twenty three for

1763
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 9: the next fight. You know what, do you guys like that?

1764
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 7: Kenny, let us pray, let us pray.

1765
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 10: I hope, I hope it happens. I would love to

1766
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 10: see it happen. I think that'd be a fastanding fight

1767
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 10: at a huge fight.

1768
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1769
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 9: One final note just from the Fighter region, I guess

1770
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 9: is Kine was released on a million dollar bail, So

1771
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 9: congratulations to Cain. You know, we wish him all the

1772
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 9: best in his legal battles.

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01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, Cody. There was a judge that is

1774
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 7: now in the picture that wasn't before, and that's that

1775
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 7: was the impetus for him getting out. Certainly not out

1776
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 7: of the woods yet, but it stands the reason that

1777
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 7: this bail was never going to happen. So the fact

1778
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 7: that he was able to get out is absolutely huge.

1779
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 7: And all you really need to know right now is

1780
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 7: that he's with his family. And I don't want to

1781
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 7: say like cooler heads prevailed because maybe it sounds insensitive.

1782
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 7: It's not as though he is like a holy innocent man.

1783
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 7: But thankfully there was a judge that got involved that

1784
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 7: actually understood some of why this happens. So thank goodness,

1785
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 7: Kane's a free man at least right now.

1786
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 6: My bail's in place, right, you know?

1787
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,520
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1788
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: Is hang a right?

1789
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 7: I got one last one final note? No, well, I

1790
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 7: know if I got a heart out it for so

1791
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 7: go all right.

1792
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 9: Aleen Paeda making her MMA debut on Friday, the sister

1793
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 9: of Alex Padeta, thirty two years old and Sloan Iowa.

1794
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 9: She's got a six and two kickboxing records, coming off

1795
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 9: a loss against Tiffany Vnzoyst who's like the best kickboxer

1796
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,520
Speaker 9: of all time at one twenty five pounds, no amateur experience,

1797
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 9: but she has a UFC champions of a brother who

1798
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 9: gets a title shot or a title win first. Aaron

1799
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 9: Blamsfield Aleen Beheda, Oh.

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01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 7: God, I don't know. I mean, I just say I

1801
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 7: mean Aaron Blanfield, who's in no rush. But yes, I'm

1802
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 7: glad you put that on our radar.

1803
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 8: All right.

1804
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,240
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