1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Well, will come in. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: To your site, wanna play agains. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 3: And saying you a consisn will all. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 4: Be zih Lena tell. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: And if you want a little banging your yin. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 5: I come along. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: There's no evidence to support the allegations that my father 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: was financially involved in my business, because it did not happen. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Thank you all for being here. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ask the press to step out and 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: so we can begun a brief thank you, thank you, 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Mister President, mister President, for sure your son after find 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: a subpoena Trado is back in style. Welcome to the Well. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm coming to your. 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: Site going the way I against Talas and saying you 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: a conscious son. Sean Hannity show for me. 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm the scene in freaking uh in for Sean Hannity, 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: and I have a very special co host today. I'll 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: introduce myself first, get the boring stuff out of the way. 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: I am a Fox News contributor. I am a regular 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: guest on this show both radio and television, a calumnist 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: for The Messenger, and a one time best selling author. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, let me one up myself. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Let me find somebody who's a two time New York 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Times bestselling author. Also, you got to get the new book. 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: It's somewhat new, but hey, a perfect stocking stucker. You 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: still got time. You will own nothing. And that, of course, 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: was written by the recovering investment banker and the advocate 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: for big hair, who is Carol Roth. Carol, welcome to 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: the show as my co host. We're going national baby, Joe. 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: I love that. 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 6: I'm a very special co host. 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: It reminds me of those very special episodes of sitcoms 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: in the eighties where we had you know, Facts of 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: Life and Different Strokes had a very special episode. And 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: now we are going to have a very special episode 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: of the Hannity Show. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: I'll go one up on you, one up on you. 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Heather Locklear Melrose plays very special guest star for no 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: more than six years. They couldn't just put it on 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the regular cast. I'm Locklear. 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: I would have been No, I'm sure she I'm sure 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: you think she was a very special guest star for 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: many reasons. But before we digress, all right, I don't 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: know if you know this, Joe, but we have a 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: very important holiday coming up this weekend. 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 6: No, it's not that one that you're thinking of. We 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: have a holiday for the rest of us called Festivus, an. 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: Amazing holiday that was brought to life by the wonderful 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: series that I know is one of both of our 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: favorite Seinfelds. I believe it was George Costanza's father, Frank Costanza, 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: who had a lot of grievances that he wanted to air, 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: and so he brought it together with Festivus. 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 6: In fact, maybe let's play sound bite eight so we 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 6: can hear about this. 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: You'll comus. 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems with your people. Now 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: you're going to hear about them the best you're going 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: to hear about this show. 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 6: We have a lot of problems, certainly with the Biden administration. 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: We have a lot of problems, certainly, not with each 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: other and not with the wonderful listeners here today, but 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: a lot of problems that we have to get out 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: of our our soul today. 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 6: So what do you think about Festivus? 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Well, first of us, Festivus officially is celebrated on Saturday, 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: that would be the twenty third of December. And look, 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: that is the Democratic party in twenty twenty three, and 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: really twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one. Let's face at 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty as far as being the party of grievances, 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: where they're very good at complaining about things, particularly when 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: they ran in twenty twenty talking about kids in cages 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: at the border, talking about how Donald Trump was They're 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: even saying it then a threat to democracy, talking about 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: how we have to defund the police, all these things. 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: When they were complaining, they had all this rosy rhetoric 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: right or as far as the border is concerned, where 80 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: they say said literally Joe Biden said during a primary 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: debate in twenty nineteen, he urged everybody in Central America, 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: in all parts of the world to surge the border 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: because that's who we are as a country. While Jim 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Acosta is reading poetry about the Statue of Liberty to 85 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: whoever the White House Press secretary was at the time. 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: The point is all the rosy rhetoric has now met reality. 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: You can't have an open border. You can't spend trillions 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: while we have already record budget deficits and record inflation, 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: because that's only going to add to the problem. You 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: can't defund the police. Even Democrats are admitting that now, 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: So I could go down the line. But as far 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: as being the party of grievances, that's the Democratic Party. 93 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: And when they're actually given power and they actually had 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: to govern, well, the rhetoric didn't meet the reality. And 95 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: now reality is hitting us right in the face. 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, now, I hear you. 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: We certainly have a lot of grievances as individuals, whether 98 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: it be the economy as you mentioned, the border, the 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: general backlash. But you know, there are plenty of place 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: for us to start. Maybe we should start with the 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: thing that is sort of dominating the headlines and the 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: most important right now, and that is the recent Colorado 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruling that is meant to keep Trump off 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: the ballot. I have a lot of problems with this, 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: as I imagine you do as well. You know, they're 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: using this pretend insurrection. I don't remember any point in 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: time that President Trump has been found guilty of insurrection. 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: We seem to have all of these words that lose 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: meaning and get changed around depending on whatever it is 110 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: that the Democrats want them to mean. What do you 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: think is at the core of this? 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 6: Is this about Trump? 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: Is this about you know, just saying if you disagree 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: with the narrative, then you are going to We're. 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: Going to find a way to come after you. 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: Is this about delegitimatizing the Supreme Court? 117 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 6: You know, there's always something else going on with the Democrats. 118 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 6: So what do you think that is? 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: Well, I think if you're looking at the most craptastic 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: definition of electric interference election interference, Carol, as a true 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: threat to democracy, you got to look at what's happening 122 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: in Colorado and what just happened, and what they're doing 123 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: now is keeping the odds on favorite to win back 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the presidency in the form of Donald Trump off the ballot, 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: as you just laid out and as everybody has been 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: talking about for the past two days. And you see 127 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: this celebration on MSNBC for the most part, CNN, all 128 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: these networks and publications who are pointing to the fourteenth 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Amendment and saying, ha, see, this is how constitutionally democracy 130 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: is supposed to operate. When it's the very opposite of democracy, 131 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: where democracy is supposed to allow the people to decide 132 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: to cast their votes. And if they don't want to 133 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: vote for Trump, fine, they want to vote for Trump 134 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: find if they want to stay home, fine, but give 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: them that option. If this somehow holds up in the 136 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and there's no shot in hell that it does. 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm even seeing people who aren't fans to 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump saying that there's a chance, even in this 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which never unanimously agrees on anything, that this 140 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: could come back nine to zero as far as rejecting this. 141 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: But if somehow, for whatever miracle happens where the Supreme 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Court upholds this, then you're going to see Donald Trump 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: off the ballot in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and then the 144 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: chips will fall because the president is set. And then 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: you'll have a situation where you have the guy who 146 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: is clearly the front runner to be the forty seventh 147 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: president and president again and Donald Trump not even given 148 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be afforded the right to win or 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: lose on the merits and again, that is just a 150 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: whole bowl of wrong. But I think in the end, 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will come back decisively shoot this down, 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: and then you're going to see a boomerang effect which 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: will only help improve Trump's chances next November, because everybody's sober, insane, 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: and objective sees this for what it is, the weaponization 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: of the justice system to save the current president, Joe Biden, 156 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: who's currently coming in three polls now thirty three percent, 157 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: thirty three percent, thirty four percent approval. We're talking where 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Nixon was when he was entering nineteen seventy four, just 159 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: months before he resigned from office. That's how low Joe 160 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Biden is. And this literally is the only thing that 161 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: could save him, Carol, because inflation, the economy ain't in 162 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: crime ain't, and the border ain't, and education ain't in 163 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: the world being on fire. Because it is ain't, he 164 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: can't run into his record. So take out your opponent. 165 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Hello Soviet Union, Great to have you back. 166 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of amusing that they want to save 167 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: democracy by using the courts to try to take out 168 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: political opponents. 169 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 6: I have to go back there. There was a lot 170 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 6: that you said there that I'd love to unpack. 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: But the one thing that stood out to me is 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: this Festivus miracle that you somehow think that the Supreme 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: Court is coming back nine to zero on this thing 174 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: when we know we. 175 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 6: Have several justices which happened. I know this is shocking. 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: This happens to follow along party lines that don't actually 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 4: see the Constitution as a constitution. 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 6: It's like a set of guidelines or you know, a 179 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 6: suggestion box if you will. 180 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: Do you really think that there would be this festivus 181 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: miracle where we're going to have a nine to o 182 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: decision on something which we all know is the right decision. 183 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: But can we trust the courts to do that? And 184 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: at the end if even if we get the courts 185 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: to come back with the right decision, doesn't that then 186 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: feed that narrative that, oh, the courts, you know, need 187 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: to be packed because they're just a political tool coming 188 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: from the other side. 189 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Look, Carol, I'm not Star Jones. I'm not a lawyer, 190 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: all right, but I talk a lot on TV and 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: I watch a lot of LA Law and reruns at 192 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns, and wow, what a piece of you know 193 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Wow? I mean, I'm a heterosexual guy, 194 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: but that's a good looking guy back in the day. Anyway, 195 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: before I go from the tangent, the point is, though 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: we have actual you know what, I'm going to go 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: actually to a Hall of Famer some call. With all 198 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: due respect to Mickey Mantle, and to Ted Williams the 199 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: greatest offensive weapon in baseball history. Ty Cobb has come 200 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: back from the dead to weigh in on this. All right, 201 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: it's the Ty Cobb who was Trump's lawyer, right. I 202 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: don't think he's too much of a big the biggest 203 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: fan of Trump. He was on earlier to talk about. 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: I think it was with CNN, how he thinks they're 205 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: going to come back nine oh. Believe that's Cutch one goose. 206 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: So I think this case will be handled quickly. 207 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: I think it could be nine to oh in Supreme 208 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Court for Trump. 209 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: That's right. And when you have a career batting average 210 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: of three forty seven back in the dead ball era, 211 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: you listen to that guy, Caroyl, no question. 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not a lawyer, you don't play one on TV. 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: When you were saying Star Jones, I was thinking Dion 214 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: Warwick and the Psychic Friends Network, So I thought maybe 215 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: you had a special reading in there. But I went 216 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: to a completely different place because that's just how my 217 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: brain operates. But I think that's going to be really, really, 218 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: really difficult to have that comeback, even though we know 219 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: it is the right thing to do. But what happens 220 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: whether I mean, assuming it's not nine Oh, let's go look, 221 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: let's just walk down this choose our own adventurer and 222 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: say that the Democrats decide that they're going to take 223 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: a different line on that. Doesn't that get back to 224 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: the issue of potentially court packing and them trying to 225 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: delegitimatize the Supreme Court and say, oh, you know this 226 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: is political and more in the wrong you know situation here. 227 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 6: I mean, doesn't this open up a whole other can 228 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 6: of worms. 229 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: That creates even more chaos and more frenzy, and maybe 230 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: is the reason why they're doing this to begin with 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: that it's not really about Trump, but it's really more 232 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: about the courts. 233 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Ah, you're saying, this is three D chess where they 234 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: want to sell in the Supreme Court. So they could say, see, 235 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court now is no longer a body that 236 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: basically comes to decisions on the Constitution and the law, 237 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: but because they support one team or the other. So 238 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: now in order to even things out, we're going to 239 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: add four justices to it, so then we have more 240 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: balance on there. And if they went back the Senate, 241 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: well they have the Senate, but if they keep the 242 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Senate and they went back the House and somehow Joe 243 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Biden wins reelection. Then that is a scenario that very 244 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: easily could happen. So all right, Carol, I like where 245 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: you're thinking here, But for the time being, at least, 246 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: let's hear from that staunch Republican probably the next keynote 247 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: speaker at SEAPAC, Claire mccaskell. Okay, she's not. She's one 248 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest, most rabid, most partisan Democrats you could 249 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: possibly find. And since she's part of the Morning Joe 250 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: team on MSNBC, she's right at home. And even she 251 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: thinks that this is a bad idea cut of it. 252 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Evan goes. As a lawyer, I. 253 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: Get this, and I think there is a real strong 254 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: case to the Supreme Court to agree with Colorado. As 255 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: somebody who is a politician, I think it's a real 256 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: bad decision because I think it really helps Donald Trump, 257 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: and I don't like anything that helps Donald Trump. I 258 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: find myself in the weird position of agreeing with Bill 259 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: Barr in terms of it helping him. I think it 260 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: does help him. 261 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. And here's the thing. They talk about, 262 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: how they have to keep Donald Trump off the ballot. 263 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Because he's a threat to democracy and he can't get 264 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: back to the White House because so many bad things 265 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: are going to happen. I mean, we're talking about things 266 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: that we have not seen since Stalin in the old 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Soviet Union the nineteen fifties. And I have proof of this, Carol, 268 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction. On the other side, 269 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: this would be cut to ethan, where here are the 270 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: warnings of what will happen in a hyperbolic situation if 271 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump were to win reelection? Cut two, go. 272 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: Reck? 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: Can I do it? All? Right? No problem? Yeah, I 274 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: hear you. But now let's let's just play how at 275 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: the first forty five seconds? How's that sound? 276 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 6: Can we do that? 277 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 278 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: What would a second Donald Trump term look like? 279 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: Well, he cannot be the next president it because if 280 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: he is, you can't imagine the things that he's going 281 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: to do. 282 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Mexico, Canada. We can't go to Canada because eventually Canada 283 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: will become an next to America and shoot visitors to 284 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah, that means he can shoot the 285 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: first lady. 286 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: We're got to see violence the likes of which we 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: didn't even see on January sixth. 288 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Make it illegal to run against him, to throw his 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: opponents in jail, to shut down the media. He will 290 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,359 Speaker 1: make himself to the furor, and he will make everybody 291 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: raise the hand and salute him, using martial law against 292 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: the American Deep. Terminate the constitution. 293 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: Do we write the constitution? 294 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Ship, create mass and tournament camps, every interman camps. You 295 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: hear all of this right? Shoot your opponents was also 296 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: thrown out there, so. 297 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: They forgot some of the think they forgot some of 298 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: the bigger ones. There's also going to be gas station 299 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: sushi for all meals. Water will come from Flint, Michigan. 300 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: Santa Claus won't come anymore. Mean tweets will come back, 301 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: but some of us like that. Yeah, all kinds of 302 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: bad things are going to happen, Joe, and we can 303 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: certainly get to more of. 304 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: That just said, and we will back with more in 305 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: just a moment. This is the Sean Hannity Show. Do 306 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: stick around, Yeah, welcome back to the Sean Handy Show. Joe, Kacha, 307 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Carol roth in for Sean as we are now we're close, baby, 308 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's Thursday, right, we have a Sunday Christmas 309 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Eve and a Monday Christmas though we are only just 310 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: a couple of days away. Hope you got all your 311 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: holiday shopping done. I know I did, and I proudly 312 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: did O Carol without stepping foot into even one store 313 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: this entire shopping season. What can I say? Amazon is 314 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: my friend you So. 315 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: You're shopping with the big guys. You're not supporting your 316 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: local small businesses. Get it back to your community, Joe Conca, 317 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: you just decided to give over all of your money 318 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: to big tech, and you're going to admit that on 319 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: national radio. 320 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: I suck. Oh you just when you put it that way, 321 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: but I avoided some lines and that's same day delivery boy. 322 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: That's hard to resist for You're right, Okay, I'll go 323 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: support a local business tomorrow. 324 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: You know. 325 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: You know it's a great present for everyone that's free 326 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: that if they enjoy listening to us here, they can 327 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: go listen to our podcast weekly on the very hard 328 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: hitting news and a little bit of snark called The List. 329 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: So if you're dooining that, please download that and subscribe. 330 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: You know, Joe, we were talking just a moment ago 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: about all the bad things that were going to happen 332 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: under a Trump presidency that the media keeps telling us, 333 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's funny. I've lived through a Trump president 334 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: and see, and I've lived through a Biden presidency, and 335 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that the place where the bad things 336 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: happened was under the ladder. 337 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: So what are they talking about? 338 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: Well, you look at the first one hundred days of 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden for example. Now, remember when you had Donald 340 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Trump on with Sean Hannity about two weeks ago on 341 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Fox for a town hall that he had, and Sewn asked, 342 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: are you going to be a dictator? And then Trump, 343 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously tongue shunk and chicek half tongue in cheek, 344 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: I should say, says i'ly be a dictator on day one, 345 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and I'm going to close down the border and I'm 346 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna drill, drill, drill, baby. And the media went insane 347 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: over this, saying, ah see, he admitted it. But meanwhile, 348 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: when you look at Biden, he had more executive orders 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: and actions in his first one hundred days, including on 350 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: day one where he basically shut down the Xcel pipeline. 351 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Who the. 352 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: This is? Uh? 353 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't know this, but I do. You don't bring 354 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: me flowering, No, this's is promises, isn't it okay? Yeah, 355 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: you don't free me flowers is a lot slower either way. 356 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Congratulations everybody listening out there on the like nine thousand 357 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: stations that we're on across the country. This is the 358 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: first time I would think ever Linda would have to 359 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: confirm this that we've ever played Barbara Streisand on this 360 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: show without mocking her in some way. But don't worry, 361 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: that's coming Carol. 362 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 6: Yes, Joe, that's a very nice little segue there. 363 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: Obviously, I have Carol ROUTHURR, Joe Kanca and you are 364 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: seeing up Barbara Streisand, because as we are celebrating Festivus 365 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 4: and we are airing our grievances, festiv is coming up 366 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: this Saturday. Barbara Streisand, which we know as we've heard 367 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: her wonderful singing voice. Apparently she is also a noted economist, 368 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: and while the rest of us are struggling our way 369 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: through the Biden presidency, she's tweeted that we are just wrong. 370 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: Yesterday she sent out a tweeter or I guess they're 371 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: called posts now because we're now on. 372 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 6: X Donald Trump. The worst jobs record of any president 373 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 6: in recent years. 374 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: President Biden has produced a job's boom, and inflation caused 375 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: by the pandemic is now coming down and prices are 376 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: thankfully falling. So Barbara streisand multi worth probably hundreds of 377 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: millions of dollars, does not want you to worry about 378 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: the fact that you cannot pay for your rent, pay 379 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: for your food, pay for your electricity, that you were struggling, 380 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: that you probably have had to take a second job. 381 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: She thinks that you are doing just great. And oh, 382 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: by the way, she linked just in case you didn't 383 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: believe her to noted economist Paul Krugman in The New 384 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: York Times, who put out a piece that is the 385 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: most chef's kiss title of all time. Beware economists who 386 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: won't admit they were wrong. From a man who's only 387 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 4: been right one time, I'll keep you in suspense, Joe, 388 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: what do you think? 389 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that my hair hurts when I read that 390 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: from Paul freakin Krubin all people to say that warning 391 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: that you know, economists must admit when they're wrong. This 392 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: is the guy and I'm going to quote this one 393 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: all right in nineteen ninety eight, that's who said again, this. 394 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 6: Is a guy. 395 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: They know what it is. 396 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: You do I know what this is? 397 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: I do, right, But can I guess? Let me make 398 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 6: it a guess and gifts? 399 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: All right, So this is this is when he said 400 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: that the internet would be about as useful as a 401 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 4: fax machine. 402 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: Do I win? 403 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: You win? Carol? Congratulations? Yes, thank you. Quote. By two 404 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: thousand and five or so, it will become clear that 405 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: the internet's impact on the economy has been no greater 406 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: than the fax machines. It's had one of the greatest 407 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: impacts on any economy in human history. So he got 408 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: that one wrong. Then in twenty sixteen, after Donald Trump won, 409 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: we'll make this a game show. What did he predict, 410 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Carroll without looking it up? 411 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so if I remember and by them, this is 412 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: just this is literally a game show. Because I do 413 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: not have your notes in front of me. I think 414 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: this was when he predicted that the stock market was 415 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: going to crash. 416 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Is that correct, Joe, stock market would crash and that 417 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: would result in a not even US recession, global recession 418 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, the great businessman was going to take 419 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: down the world. And obviously we had one of the 420 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: best economies that we've seen under any president. So there's 421 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: such a long list here but we only have finite time. 422 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: But let's get back to Bob. The babs for a 423 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: second right, as far as streisan, because she makes a 424 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: claim that many Democrats make, which is Joe Biden his 425 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: administration has created fourteen million jobs, dwarfing every other president, 426 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: including his boss, Barack Obama, including the last Democratic president 427 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: before him, in Bill Clinton. And then they show a 428 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: graph of Donald Trump losing jobs during his presidency. What 429 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: they leave out, of course, is that little thing called 430 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the pandemic where the country was shut down. Businesses were 431 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: shut down, people lost their jobs arbitrarily. And the jobs 432 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: that Biden has added back, they're not created, they have 433 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: been restored. There's a big difference between the two, and 434 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: nobody buys it, thank god, because you see where Biden 435 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: is pulling as far as is handling the economy and 436 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: inflation that too, also in the low thirties and as 437 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: far as inflation's concerned. And you corrected me in my 438 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: analogy one time on this Carol, where I said, hey, 439 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: let's say I gained fifty pounds in one year, and 440 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: my wife says, hey, you know, Joe, when I married you, 441 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't just for your sense of humor, you know, 442 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: quite the body there. And then now you look like 443 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: you know the Stanley cup right like, you look like 444 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you're your second trimester. Start to lose some weight. So 445 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: then the following year, I go ahead and I only 446 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: gain fifteen pounds, and I say, see, honey, I'm losing weight. 447 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: That's what the inflation's doing right now. It went up 448 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: to nine percent just because it came down to three. 449 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: It's still not below one point three percent, which is 450 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: what it was when Donald Trump left office. So Democrats 451 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: keep saying that, oh, we're bringing inflation down. It's still 452 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty percent higher than it was before 453 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump left office. So what are they talking about? 454 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is the Paul Krugman's the Barber 455 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 4: Streis Sands, who are living in the lap of luxury. 456 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: They're having a great time, and so they are looking 457 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 4: down their noses that you middle class and working class 458 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: who are getting absolutely crushed, saying I don't understand why 459 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: you don't understand the way that economists look at things. 460 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: And the rate of inflation has slowed, and you should 461 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: be you know, throughout there throwing a party. We've seen 462 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 4: that the cost for the average family has gone up 463 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: by five figures per year, and this is a permanent 464 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: tax on the middle class, something that people are going 465 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: to have to contend with for the rest of their lives. 466 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: So when Biden promised no more taxes, this is in 467 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 4: fact a tax is just a very sneaky and sticky 468 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: one that cannot be legislated away. And the fact that 469 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: you get the gas lighting from these mouthpieces, from someone 470 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: like Barbara streisand the streisand effect, right, she's the one 471 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 4: that came up with this of calling attention to something 472 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: that wouldn't have been a big deal if you. 473 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: Just you know, didn't shine a light on it. 474 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: And she's now reshining a light on how bad the 475 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: Biden administration has been for the middle class, but then 476 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: wants to gaslight you into trying to say that you're 477 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: wrong about it. And that's the part that hurts my heart, 478 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: you know, it hurts my heart more than anything, because 479 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: it's kind of like when you pay taxes, like it's 480 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: really annoying that you have to pay all of this 481 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 4: money to the government, but then they make you jump 482 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: through hoops, you have to do work, you have to 483 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 4: work harder, and that makes it like, that's like a second, 484 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: you know, twisting of the knife in the heart, and 485 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: I feel like this is the same thing too. It's like, 486 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: it's bad enough that we have this inflation that we're 487 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: dealing with, but then you want to tell me that 488 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: it's not a big deal. It's just turning the knife 489 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: in the heart again and again. And it couldn't they 490 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: just come out and say, yes, we know it's been 491 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 4: a struggle and we've gotten it wrong, and here are 492 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 4: our policies to change it. 493 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: Of course not. 494 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 4: They just want to gaslight you into thinking that you're 495 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: wrong and thinking that this is a winning message for them, 496 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 4: which is why as we're airing our grievances here, I've 497 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: got a real big problem with this. 498 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: Joe, give Bill Clinton credit because at least he went 499 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: with the line I feel your pain, and that that 500 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: at least shows empathy or sympathy. Instead, you have like 501 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: a Joe Biden who has multimillion dollar homes throughout Delaware, 502 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: not quite sure how exactly he afford that on a 503 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: set of salary. But then Barber Streisan, who is worth 504 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars in Paul Krugman, who's also 505 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: worth seven figures. They're telling you that this isn't happening 506 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: because they don't feel it right. And it's like so 507 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: many people do who are working multiple jobs, including us Carrow, 508 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I think about the four at this point. 509 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: But let's play cut twelve, shall we, because this is 510 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: the Biden administration to your point, gas lighting one oh one, 511 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: as far as telling you that no really really bid 512 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: nomics is working like affording life right now? Guess what 513 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: by nomics is working to a point where people can 514 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: live buncheoning your money. Oh you're not doing this, Oh 515 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: you're buying coffee, And it's like, no, I'm literally not 516 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: doing any of this thing. That's by nomics in action. 517 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: And the American people are beginning to feel by noomics. 518 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: With paycheck to paycheck every week because I am trying 519 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: to pay every bill that the world is throwing at. 520 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 4: Me right Nowics is growing the economy from the middle 521 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: out and bottom. 522 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Up, and the government's response to that is, oh, hey, 523 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: if body aliens are real, we don't give a about aliens. 524 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: QUI id a roof over our heads. 525 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: The Financial Times in the Wall Street Journal initially call 526 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: my plan bid noomics. I'm not sure the minute. Totally 527 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: compliment your right at the time, but guess what it's working. 528 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: It's really tired of like. 529 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: Rices on everything are up, from food, gas rents to 530 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: sixty bucks to fill up your gas sing it's one 531 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: hundred and forty set of ninety nine cents for eggs, 532 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: it's three dollars rents going from three grand to five grand. 533 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: All that adds up, and wages aren't going up fast enough. 534 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 6: And bidnmics is working. 535 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: So what did most of us have to do? Myself 536 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: included with the extra four hundred dollars a month I 537 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: was spending on gas, I had to use my credit 538 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: cards even with three jobs. Now I'm not even going 539 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: to make a dent on those credit card bill. Seriously, 540 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: want to know what the endgame is because soon we're 541 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: not going to have any money for anything. 542 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 6: Bydynomics is working. 543 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: Why are we working so hard to make money for 544 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: other people to use and steal our income just for 545 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: us to never see it. 546 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: We have the strongest economy in the world. You're looking 547 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: at me a little skeptical, but I promise you check 548 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: it out. 549 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm working just to basically pay bills, just to survive. 550 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: We had to bleep three F bombs in that montage. 551 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: Carol, Yeah, No, I mean only somebody like that president 552 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: we have that has oatmeal for brains would take this 553 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: pejorative term in buidynomics and go, you know what, let's 554 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: try and turn earn that one around and use it 555 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: and just keep shining light on what a terrible job 556 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: that we're doing. He touts these job numbers, as you mentioned, 557 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: some of them will reclaim jobs from the pandemic, but 558 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 4: also there are a lot of people who've had to 559 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: take on multiple jobs to be able to afford the 560 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: standard cost of living. We know people have dipped into 561 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: their personal saving The personal savings rate is down. We 562 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: know that debt is the household debt is at record levels, 563 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: so people's personal balance sheets are getting killed. Yet he 564 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: wants to take credit for a booming economy. But when 565 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: you look at the polls, the number one issue is 566 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: the economy, and nobody in that administration, not even Kamala 567 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: Harrison her ven diagrams, have done an overlapping circle to 568 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: say this don't make any sense and we should probably 569 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: move in a different direction. 570 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You see these polls with young voters 571 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: now going to Trump where Trump lost by something like 572 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: thirty points among young voters in twenty twenty, and now 573 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: he's actually beating Biden among this demographic. And I actually 574 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: saw some real journalism done where you had folks go 575 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: out to young people, put these panels together and say 576 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: why why would you leave Joe Biden? Why are you 577 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: disappointed in this presidency? And they it's as if they 578 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: read your book, Carol, you will own Nothing, And they 579 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that they feel like they're gonna 580 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: have to rent for the rest of their life and 581 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: maybe even stay in the same apartment because the even 582 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: upgrade is an impossibility because all of their savings is 583 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: gone or it doesn't exist, or they're they're obviously paying 584 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: off interest on their credit cards as they continue to 585 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: spend on that front, and there's just nothing left because 586 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: they also have all this student loan debt. And you say, well, 587 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Biden's trying to forgive student loan debt, Well, yeah, no, 588 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: fifty percent of that is to forgive student loans for 589 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: graduate degrees or advanced degrees that type people become lawyers 590 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: and doctors that could pay it back. So that's not 591 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: going to solve you got to bring the cost of 592 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: college down, and that's certainly not going to happen anytime soon. 593 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: I say this. My brother runs a trade school in Patterson, 594 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: New Jersey. It's about fifteen minutes from my house. It's 595 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: a rough town, all right. It's a blow to middle 596 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: class town, hard working people. But if you're born in Paterson, 597 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: you really got to work to get out of there. 598 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: And the way you get out of places is by 599 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: educating yourself. But to go to college, if you want 600 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: to go to Harvard, for example, then that's eighty thousand year. 601 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: It's three hundred and twenty thousand dollars. Over four years, 602 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: it's five hundred thousand dollars before taxis you would have 603 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 1: to earn to send one kid to college, all right. 604 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: And that's such as Harvard, it could be could be Stanford. 605 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Your average state school is even way too expensive for 606 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: these kids. So they go to trade school instead and 607 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: they learn to become a mechanic or a contractor or 608 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: an electrician. And my brother tells me that after they graduate, 609 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the job placement, and it's called Hojoka School trades, is 610 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: ninety seven percent. They get out and there's a job 611 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: waiting for almost all of these kids if they have 612 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the proper training. So that is booming right now as 613 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: far as trade schools are concerned, and I would go 614 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: down that route. But to get back to our overall point, 615 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: young people are leaving Biden because they're experiencing what everybody's experiencing, 616 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: and that's the fact that achieving them and dream having 617 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: a house, getting your kids a good college education, that's 618 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: out of reach for almost all Americans outside of the 619 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: very very rich or the very very well placed in 620 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: terms of family money. 621 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 6: Yes, and at this. 622 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: Point, I'm not sure who would want to send their 623 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: kid to Harvard or to my alma mater or University 624 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania, mit any of these other schools that have 625 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: become hedge funds with indoctrination cams attached to it. But 626 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: if you do send your kid there, you're not getting 627 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: your loans forgiven by the Biden administration, which they knew 628 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: to begin with, which is why that promise was broken. 629 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: Why people are again dismayed with this president because there 630 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: really is nothing to hang their hat on. 631 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Is their job Nope, He's not sending flowers to the 632 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: American people, that's for sure. And this is way I'm 633 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: going to pivot out of here by Ethan. Let's cue 634 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: it up, because now we're going to break the record, 635 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: all right, a record that we broke just fifteen minutes ago, 636 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: as far as Barbara Streis in the second time on 637 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show, and probably the last time if 638 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Sean has anything to do with this. Let's get out 639 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: of here. You don't bring me flowers, barbar streisanders, you're 640 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: going to bring you. 641 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm feeling all right. 642 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Still, let's keep going. Let's blow this straight. You don't 643 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: goingly flower love song, I still good. 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