1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit, 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: featuring Jaguar senior writer John Osher and executive producer Dave 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: de Candice. All Right, Welcome into this week's Ozone podcast 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: presented by Vistar and this week's guests. I think Jaguars 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: fans are gonna like I'm excited about it. He hasn't 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to me an unbelievable story. It's a story of a 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: guy who was on his way to being an absolute 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: lockdown top fifteen pick, with his future really ahead of him, 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: and sustains a brutal injury at the worst possible time. 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: We'll share more about that during the podcast, but the 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: astute Jaguar fan may know that I'm talking about new 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars cornerback Sidney Jones, one of the quote surprise players 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: on the team. Will find out in a minute. He's 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: surprised himself. I would guests, not but Sydney first of all, 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: overnight success story, but not overnight right, Uh, def definitely 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: not overnight. But thank you for having me. Um. It's 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: been a it's been a long journey, Um, you know, 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: ups and downs in the in this business. For me. Um. 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Start off with Bhilly Um obviously didn't work over there. 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm here ready to make the most of this opportunity. 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: And UM, over there, it was a it was a 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: long journey, but I came in. I worked. I worked 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: so hard in the off season. UM had big goals, 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: big aspirations, and obviously it didn't it didn't work out there, 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: But those goals aspirations never changed for me. So coming 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: here having not having another opportunity, you know, comprove myself 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: and you know, make make something happen is UM has 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: been good. You know. Uh, I've never lost faith to myself. 29 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I always blew to myself and I'm just ready to 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: work and continue to work. I want to get into 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the details of your story and in a minute, I 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: know you've shared that story a lot, but what is 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: this season? The last month? What does it mean to you? 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: And and I will get into some of the details 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: of how hard you've worked to get here, But what 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: does this month mean to you? How much has it 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe changed you or given confidence? Where yet in that regard? Uh, 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's I think it's been huge for me, you know, UM, 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: coming from coming from the situation I was in and 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: not having really too much consistency and success, whether that 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: was my play on the field or injury wise, or 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. It's it's been it's been 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: really nice to kind of be back to that normal 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: space of knowing, you know, having some success, having some 45 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, building and stuff to build on, kind of 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, playing football like like it was like we're 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: children again, like because it is a kid's game. Within 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: we started playing, so I was six years old, and 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: it kind of feels like the same, the same vibe 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: and teammates here, you know, we rather around each other. 51 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: We all have good energy and especially last game, that 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: was the funniest game I've probably been a part of 53 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: us since I've been in the NFL, and I know 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other guys the same way. It 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: was just different energy. So having that is is huge. 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Just playing football and loving loving what you do and 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: loving the energy on the field with with your brothers 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: is something really special. So um, just kind of it's 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: been amazing to really build off this this whole month, 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: whether that's you know, playing style or where I've been playing. 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, it has been perfect on my end, but 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: it's it's progression. I'm playing. I'm in there. I'm I'm 63 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: seeing what I can do better I can I'm seeing 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, corrections, and I can take that week by 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: week by week and build that progression. That's something I 66 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: create as a player. UM, as well as you know 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: I've dealt with I've been dealing with some injuries here, 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: but it's been also another you know, confidence boosts within 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: myself that I'm able to push through that those type 70 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: of injuries, you know, So it's been really good for me. 71 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: And not to bring up a horrible memory. But the 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: fans who don't know, I can't even imagine the timing 73 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: of this. For you. You're on your way to being 74 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: a top fifteen draft pick probably and you not only 75 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: get injured on your pro day, but you tear your achilles, which, 76 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: for fans who don't know, that might be worse than 77 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: an a c L. That might be the ultimate injury 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: for a player at your position. If you don't mind, 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: just kind of take me through the emotions of that 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: moment and how you sort of even get past that. Initially, Uh, 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: I think it was it was really tough, UM, just 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: kind of having some direction of you know, where you're 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna go in the draft to having so much uncertainty 84 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: draft wise, but I knew, you know, I was determined 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: to come back and and get back to playing football, 86 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: but that that was the only thing that kind of 87 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: threw me off a little bit, and coming back from 88 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: the injury was probably even harder. Um I was. I 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: was positive throughout the whole thing, but kind of didn't. 90 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that after effect it would have. Um, 91 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I think it has some type of because that was 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: my first injury pretty much my whole football career. I 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: never had any surgery before that one, and I had 94 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: that one, and then it felt like a ripple effect 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: of other things came came into effects, so that I 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: think the after effect of that was more, you know, 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: more hurtful, you know, But that that injury itself is 98 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's a pretty good one. Uh Yeah. The 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: phrasing ins me there because, like I said, it's it's 100 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: about is difficult for a player plays your position because 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: it's all quick twitch. And so he said, you never 102 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: really had any adversity before this. It had been pretty 103 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: much a straight shot. And I guess you were a 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: guy who rightfully assumed you were going to be in 105 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the NFL and then you sort of hit this. What 106 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: was the key as you came back and just sort 107 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: of kept thrick? How did you deal with it once 108 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you got to Philly and once you sort of had 109 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to get past this injury? What kept you going? I 110 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: guess what I'm asking, Oh, what kind of going? Is 111 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: just football? Football itself? Knowing knowing this, it's the game 112 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I love my whole my whole life, and the adversity within. 113 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: It's tough, but you gotta keep pushing. Um. I still 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: had bigger goals within myself. I had something to prove 115 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: within myself. I wanted to get back to play at 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: a high level, um as I already was wanting to 117 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: buy leading early and coming to the NFL, So those 118 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: those goals never changed. I wanted to, you know, keep 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: proving myself, keep proving myself to become the best player 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: that I can be. And I'm on that path right now. 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: How do you not lose confidence during that? Because I 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: know as an athlete, when you don't have what you 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: had before war, which is that gift for a while, 124 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: we haven't recovered from it, how do you not lose confidence? 125 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: And how do you sort of believe it's eventually going 126 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: to get to the point where you're at now. It's 127 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: very very tough question. Probably I don't know exactly when, 128 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: but I probably lost confidence at at some point, Like 129 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: being completely honest, UM, I don't think I've ever said 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: that out loud, but it's I'm in a different place, 131 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: a different mindset and mature reflecting UM kind of on 132 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the past, and UH, probably lost lost some confidence within 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what year, I don't know, but at 134 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: some point it was just kind of like just felt 135 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: over overwhelmed with uncertainty of the future of my body, 136 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: of pretty much everything in my life. But it was 137 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: a good learning experience knowing that I haven't been through 138 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: any diversity in my life really and this one had 139 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: just had so happened to be within my career. So UM, 140 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I always going back to what you said, just staying faithful, 141 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: staying faithful, knowing, you know, knowing the place I still 142 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: want to get to, having a support system around me, 143 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: UM to keep me uplifted, UM, for my for my faith, 144 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: my faith UM really got me through it. It was 145 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that helped me pull through, UM, 146 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: but it was it was it was a journey for sure, 147 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: So you get to Jacksonville, were you a percent when 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: you I mean, did you feel like you were already 149 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: ready to make this jump coming into this season this 150 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: past year? So I told you all, worked worked my 151 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: butt office all season. Um, I had a big goals. 152 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: I had my goals to go to Pro Bowl and 153 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: all that. But I got got to Philly, Um and 154 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: I had hamstring that put me. It was a camp 155 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: put me out for a week and a half. So 156 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I think camp was probably short this year, and there 157 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: was no preseason already, so Dirt like already had injury 158 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: history with them, and um, I guess that week and 159 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: a half, you know, other guys were getting their opportunity 160 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: and they they got that. So the way it worked 161 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: out is, you know they released me, but that was 162 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: that little hamstring put me out for a week was 163 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: nothing in my brain, you know what I'm saying. Like, 164 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: so compared to everything else, a week and a half 165 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: is not that much. So in my brain, I'm like, 166 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. Like whatever happens after after Philly they released me, 167 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I'll just go somewhere else fresh, start, change of scenery, 168 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: and you know, make the most of my opportunity and 169 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get a heck of a ball player because 170 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: I know my goals. My goal still never changed. And 171 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: so you're in an odd situation. We're even getting cut. 172 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: You didn't lose confidence because you knew you were back 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: to being you. Yeah, and it was a fresh start 174 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and knowing everything I've been through right at you. So 175 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: you get your chance against Houston this year, you obviously 176 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: know before that game or you feel like playing times 177 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: about to come, you feel like you're about to get 178 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: that opportunity. Any nerves at that point or are you 179 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: that confidence you said, Hey, I know I'm back physically, 180 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: I know I can do this, and it's just pure 181 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: excitement or both probably, So I'll tell you a story. 182 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: So I'll just give you a rundown of every cheer. 183 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: It was I think maybe Cincinnati week or maybe a 184 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: week before, and I was like, because I was just sitting, 185 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: I was on special scenes. I was like, hey, coach Kat, 186 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: get a package to each other. Tack is kind of 187 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: jumping with him. He's like, yeah, uh, it's not it's 188 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: not up to me. I'll see what I can do. 189 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I'll see that. So we're getting Cincinnati game and then 190 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: a couple of players go down, and then I played 191 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: like two snaps. I don't know how many, but I 192 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: assume in my brain. The next week, I was gonna 193 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: be getting a lot more playing time being up therese injuries, 194 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: and then I was coming. We had lost that game. 195 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: I was coming. I was running off into a locker 196 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: room talking to somebody. I was, I'm I'm gonna catch 197 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: two picks next week, watch this, And then I was 198 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: like what I'm speaking out there. I know I'm about 199 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: to play more something. I'm catching two picks. I need that. 200 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: So that was my mindset the whole week I was playing. 201 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: I was playing the game in my head. The whole week. 202 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm matching myself catching two picks, just being being a 203 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: great players, imagine it, just because that's expect no less 204 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: for myself. So um getting the game. I got my 205 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: hands on the first one. I almost caught that one. 206 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: That would have been too, that have been too but 207 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: one you know one coming out party, just it's good, 208 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: um but just end up having a really good game 209 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: and good good starter game. You um, so I was. 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I was really happy about that one, and then pretty 211 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: much from there, just carrying that same mindset and you know, 212 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: expecting nothing less to myself. I gotta think right now, 213 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: this is a feeling. I mean, and we'll talk about 214 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: the team in a moment, and I'm not trying to 215 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: imply that it's cool to be one and eight, but personally, 216 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: for you, it has to be just a tremendous feeling too, 217 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: after so long to be back, to have the opportunity 218 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: to be there, you've got to sort of feel like 219 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: at this point, almost like a rookie again. Now, yes, 220 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: it's That's how I've looked at it, honestly, because I've 221 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: never had anything to build off of, and I've never 222 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: had Stephanie Stones, and I feel like there's a young 223 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: group around around here, and I feel even though I'm 224 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very experienced of you know, being 225 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: in the league for three years and having grateful black Q, 226 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: I feel still as a young guy being that I'm 227 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: in there and I'm I'm messing things up that I 228 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: know that I can fix, and it's like, that's the experience. 229 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm looking for. I know, as much 230 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: as I made plays, I've you know, ultimately kind of 231 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: giving up some things. But no one, Okay, that's that's 232 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: that's the NFL that they get paid too. But knowing 233 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: where I can be better, I feel like I can 234 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: be so much better than I than I am right now. 235 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's one of my city is right now always, 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, getting better, getting better. You said something that 237 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: was interesting. You feel like there's an energy about this 238 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: team right now, you know, and that sounds I had 239 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: to say at one and eight. But you mentioned at 240 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: the top there was an enthusiasm last week. Tell me 241 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: about that a little bit. How does that, Why is 242 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: there an energy and what are you guys feeling right now? 243 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't say we necessarily have the same 244 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: energy any other any other game. Maybe maybe we had it, 245 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: uh we won during the court I was. I was 246 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: still on practice squad, so I wouldn't know. But in 247 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: terms of on the field and having fun, like I 248 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one who felt it. Everybody, like I 249 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: know a whole bunch of other guys who said that 250 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I was a fun game. They're like, 251 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: remember this feeling to remember how much fun we were having, 252 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Remember remember this and all that stuff. So I don't. 253 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: It was just it was just a different energy that 254 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I can't explain. I don't know if I don't know 255 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: what we did different, but we had to keep that 256 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: same energy because that's what makes it the game fun 257 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: and us play better. Now, you tell me you're turning 258 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: into a golfer. Where are you adding that? Can you 259 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: play yet? Tell me about Sidney Jones the golfer? Barely? 260 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you as much as I can. But I like, 261 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I love top golf and I go and I don't 262 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: have any I don't have any technique. I don't have 263 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: any talent with that. I just know I can smack 264 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the ball and I I love just hit the ball 265 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: as far as possible. Um. But I am going to 266 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: take golf and lessons um after the season. When when 267 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: that comes in, Jackson goes the place to do it. 268 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: It's avable golfing area for sure. And then I'm told 269 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: your fiance is a chef. Is that correct? Yes? Is 270 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: this something where you could take advantage of that in 271 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: terms of diet or is it a bad thing? Are 272 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: you eating too much? Oh? No, I'm a I'm a 273 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: slim guy, so I love I need the calories. But 274 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: she cooks amazing food. She's not a certified professional but 275 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: she's just she's from the South and she's just a 276 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: really good home home cook and she can bake, she 277 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: can cook, she can do pretty much anything, and the 278 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: food is like amazing. Like we always we always joking 279 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: and say like because we go to restaurants, we try 280 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: different things out and we're always joking like that you 281 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: can have your own restaurant if from one to one 282 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: if like like this is not it's not better than 283 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: we make at home. So a lot of times we'd 284 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: rather eat at home and go and go to somebody 285 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: else's restaurant and don't knocks on anybody else. But yeah, okay. 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: The last thing we do Sydney, we call it the 287 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: ozone five. It's five quick questions you can answer as 288 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: quick or as lengthy as you want. It's fun stuff. 289 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, what was your last binge watch? Last beinge 290 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: watch hasn't been that long. Let me come back and 291 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: come back to you on that one, asked me last 292 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: song if you listen to either in your car or 293 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: on your headphones, Humble by a little Bigger, Who's most 294 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: responsible aside from you for you being in the NFL? 295 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I would say my mother for birthday Kum, she's she's 296 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: been there for through my whole journey. Um, I was. 297 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't pinpoint one person. A lot of 298 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised how many people, you know, gathered around 299 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: me to bring me to where I'm at today. Um, 300 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: but I would say my coach Jimmy Lake. Um, he's 301 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: my DV coach IF at Washington. He's now the head 302 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: coach there and he you know, technique wise for bi 303 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: Q and all that stuff. He just took me to 304 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: the next level. I just understood and understood his coaching 305 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: and grasped it, and I just went to that next 306 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: level through through him. What other sport would you have played? 307 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: They had main for football? I think if I would 308 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: have stuck with baseball would have been pretty decent. Okay, 309 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: big pressure here. Best dish the fiance makes. She makes 310 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: his chicken. I don't know what's in it. It's like 311 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: checking thoghs with mashed potatoes and uh and broccolini. That 312 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: It's just it's amazing. It's kind of has like a 313 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: a savory citrus type of gas and then like it 314 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of kind of have some juice to it, so 315 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: that juice mixed with the mashed potatoes like it's really 316 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: good and then be carefulss. You're gonna eat your way 317 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: out of the league with her, right. Yeah, you gotta 318 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: binge watch for me. Jone watch Game of Thrones, the 319 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: best one Tacks got you. Yeah, I went through that one. 320 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: I actually never watched, and my wife and son log 321 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't get into it. Yeah, you gotta 322 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: keep that quiet because everybody lives Game of Thrones. But 323 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, I want to thank you very much for 324 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: doing this on a Wednesday. Means a lot. I think 325 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: fans learned a lot about you and I can't thank 326 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: you enough for sharing some of the things you shared 327 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: Today means a lot of times. It means like the 328 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Jack Wars fans thank you again said thank you all 329 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: right as usual. I want to thank Sydney Jones for 330 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: doing us to say it every week, but these guys 331 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: are very busy during the season, and to give us 332 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and to give us fifteen to twenty minutes 333 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: where it's clearly thought out and some really heartfelt answers 334 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: from Sydney Jones, I really appreciate it. You know, not 335 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: always willing to do that, but I think he shared 336 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: some things with Jaguars fans that I found fascinating and 337 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Dave again, I said it at the top, I said 338 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: it during the interview. I don't know if if fans 339 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: everybody talks so much about a c l S and 340 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: they stay in age and an cl is a brutal 341 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: injury for a football player. Different positions, it a fixed 342 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: different ways, but anybody around it will tell you it's 343 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: nothing compared doing Achilles. Achilles takes guys down and there 344 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: are players who don't recover from it because it's it 345 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: it It is your entire We talk about quick twitch, 346 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: that's where it comes from. For some guys, just it 347 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: takes away their speed, theirs, their athleticism, their agility. It's 348 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: not necessarily surprising that it took Sydney that long to 349 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: make up ground and get back. And I thought it 350 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: was interesting what he said about his first time he 351 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: ever dealt with in the university. For a young player 352 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: who is physically gifted, as clearly that he was, all 353 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: of a sudden, when your dream is at hand, and 354 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: then to have that okay now instead of playing as 355 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: a rookie, you gotta work and rehab and not feel 356 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: part of it. I just find it a remarkable, remarkably 357 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: difficult thing that he overcame. Yeah, it was pretty interesting 358 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: for me because I really, I don't know, I didn't 359 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: know much about him, and it was just kind of 360 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: interesting to hear his his journey and what he had 361 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: to do to you know, recover from that and how 362 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: The most interesting part for me, I thought was when 363 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: he said, like the game against Green Bay was the 364 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: most fun he's had professionally in football, which to me, 365 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy played on the Eople's team that 366 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: was a was a playoff was a playoff team and 367 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: pretty good team the last over the last few years, 368 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, last week was the most Funny's had. 369 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Just kind of you kind of feel kind of the 370 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 1: renewed sense and renewed spirit he has for the for 371 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: the game and um and you seem and you know, 372 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of a guy you root for. I mean, 373 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, despite the record with the Jaguars and stuff, 374 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: that's one of those stories is a cool kind of 375 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: side story that's going on in the background that probably 376 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: is not gonna get talked about because of the record 377 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: and because of everything else that's going on, and it's 378 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: just kind of cool, like on this format you can 379 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: kind of highlight that and take some time and and 380 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: and learn about it. And uh, you know, I was, 381 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. It's you know, the way this 382 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: world is, and with COVID and stuff, we're not around 383 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: the players as much and we're not in the locker 384 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: room and doing as much with players. This year, I 385 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: really didn't even know what the sound of Sydney Jones's 386 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: voice was, so that was kind of that was kind 387 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: of interesting. I didn't even know really know what to 388 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: expect when he when he started talking, and um, and 389 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, I thought, he just gives give us some 390 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: really good insight on kind of the journeys he's had 391 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: very early in his football career. And the other part 392 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: is it's still twenty four years old. I mean, he 393 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: still has the screw ahead of him, Um, despite everything 394 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: that happened early on. And for fans who don't realize that, 395 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people who listen to his podcast probably 396 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: do realize by now, we don't really get a chance 397 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: to talk to the guys because everything's virtual. Usually on 398 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: a podcast like this, even if I didn't know the 399 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: player that well, I usually would have talked to him 400 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: face to face, or at least try to go to 401 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: him and say, hey, is there anything you want to 402 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: talk about. So again, for Sidney to sort of open 403 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: up about some things very appreciated. I thought the most 404 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: interesting thing was when he said, look, there were times 405 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: when I lost confidence, and when he was saying that, 406 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to interrupt him, but I'm thinking, 407 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: how could you not? You know, you're you're at the 408 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: highest level of football, and for a couple of years 409 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: you aren't playing with your full deck. If you will, 410 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: you know you don't have all of the skills that 411 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: got you to that level. So fascinating for me, just 412 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: like you, Dave, when he talked about having so much 413 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: fun against Green Bay, it's got to be a pleasure 414 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: for him at this point, for the first time in 415 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: his career, a he's got a chance to start, so 416 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: he's getting the reps to show what he can do. 417 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: He's not worried about getting pulled. He doesn't have the 418 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: pressure that there must have been on him in Philadelphia, 419 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: where he's a number two picked is all these expectations 420 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: and everything is getting picked apart. I would guess that 421 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: right now he can play free and have fun for 422 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: the first time, and it's sure shows what a story. 423 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: He's a free agent this year, and I didn't ask 424 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: him about that because he doesn't know yet what the 425 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: next year is gonna bring. But if the jack Wards 426 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: can resign him and get him to be a part 427 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: of what's going on going forward, what a gift it 428 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: would be to find a player that you didn't have 429 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: to draft. All of a sudden, you've got c. J. Henderson, 430 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, and Trey Herndon, who is a good nickel. 431 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, to me, is the key piece where they 432 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: might have found three of the five pieces necessary in 433 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: the secondary. If he's not around, then all of a sudden, 434 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: you're looking again for the piece that makes it all work. 435 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: He's been an invest corner so far this year. With 436 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: apologies uh I C. J. Henderson, but Sidney Jones has 437 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: made more place. He's got nine pass breakups, he leads 438 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: the team in p B US even though he's only 439 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: been starting for five games. He's played really well. And 440 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: you wondered after the Texans game, is that consistent? Well, 441 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: he's been consistent, so credit to him. He he has 442 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: turned himself in as I said, to an overnight success 443 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: in no more than four years. Day only took him 444 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: four years of being overnight success. I'm still trying and 445 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm thirty five years old. So well, guess and John 446 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: John sorry bro, Yeah, well, after thirty three years, I 447 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: realized I'm not gonna be at over night think death. 448 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I just want to go to sleep. So uh but again, 449 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: thank you to Sydney Jones for doing this. And I 450 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: say it every week, but these guys coming here on 451 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, when they're distracted, they sit down and they 452 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: haven't been thinking about the context of this podcast, and 453 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: yet they're still willing to sort of dig deep a 454 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: little bit and share some things and then automatically turn 455 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: it off and go back to work. So I appreciate that. 456 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate Dave for putting up with me. I appreciate 457 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado for making a sound better than we actually are. 458 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: Very very good OT Zone podcast today. I know this 459 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: one didn't start. I hope you'll learned something about Jaguars 460 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: cornerback Sydney Jones