Speaker 1: Baseball is back. Let's talk to the pros. Welcome in everybody,
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Speaker 1: B Joey p Joe Pisapia with me is insider the Welsh.
Speaker 1: That's right, he's now an MLB insider because he's down
Speaker 1: there in spring training on the fields. He's shagging flies,
Speaker 1: he's getting dan. And we've got a great guest for
Speaker 1: you today from CBS. My dude, Frank Staffle's gonna join
Speaker 1: us and today baseball is back. When last week left you,
Speaker 1: it was a somber tone. Paul Sport and the Welsh
Speaker 1: were in a quite a dust up. It was very
Speaker 1: reminiscent of Jose Bautista and rugnett o'dor going at it.
Speaker 1: We didn't think baseball is happening. We've come back here
Speaker 1: this week with a fresh attitude.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna say I took it on the chin?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: No, yes, Sde I take it on the chin. I'm Batista.
Speaker 2: I took it on the chin.
Speaker 1: I think not because you took it on the chin
Speaker 1: just because Paul Sporer was swinging. Paul Sporer was swinging
Speaker 1: and he was basically didn't care what he was swinging.
Speaker 2: He was just the air, just that nothing he was.
Speaker 1: He was swinging at the air and he was and
Speaker 1: he would say, go ahead, you talk, and then he
Speaker 1: would swing again at you. And I felt like, that's
Speaker 1: kind of why he has to be a door in
Speaker 1: this that you not that you couldn't throw a punch, Mosh.
Speaker 1: I believe you're a big, strong guy. But anyway, we've
Speaker 1: got transactions to talk about, we got injuries to talk about,
Speaker 1: we have got draft day bargains to talk about. Frank Stanfel,
Speaker 1: I am so grateful to have you on the show.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows Frank. Frank is super famous. He hosts, obviously
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Today pod over at CBS. Frank, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling now that baseball is back?
Speaker 3: Relieved but also overwhelmed.
Speaker 4: There is so much going on right now in the
Speaker 4: baseball world, so we're reacting to it in real time.
Speaker 4: All these trades, signings, tatis, motorcycles. Everything's going crazy right now.
Speaker 4: But I'm happy to be here two of my favorite
Speaker 4: people in the industry.
Speaker 3: And I really do mean that. I'm not just saying
Speaker 3: are you.
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to have that beard with that hat
Speaker 2: on I thought there was a Yankee rule where you
Speaker 2: can't have that rookie beard. I'm pretty sure you gotta
Speaker 2: shave that off, Frank.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was growing it out until baseball was back,
Speaker 4: and now I just kind of like it.
Speaker 2: So it looks kind of rookie. I think Frank might
Speaker 2: be throwing the punches here. It's it's a Fantasy Pro
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Speaker 1: I do, kind of. I do kind of see the
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Speaker 2: You see there is kind of rookie. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So let's get kicking here, and let's start off with
Speaker 1: the big news. Fernando Tatists Junior may have surgery, may
Speaker 1: not have surgery. I don't know, Frank, you are our
Speaker 1: guests today. Well surely failed us because he saw Fernando
Speaker 1: Tatis's brother and he didn't ask him what the deal is.
Speaker 3: And you failed to today.
Speaker 1: You know you're a failure today. Well, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to you instead, Frank Tatist. This new is obviously huge.
Speaker 1: Let's say he does have the surgery. Let's live in
Speaker 1: that hypothetical world. He could miss all the way up
Speaker 1: and not be back until June. Where does this bump
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatists down in your redraft rankings right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm currently ranking him as if he is
Speaker 4: going to have surgery and miss all that time. So
Speaker 4: I moved him down to seventeen in my shortstop rankings,
Speaker 4: which sounds like a massive drop it is. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was my number one overall player, and rightfully so.
Speaker 4: Even last year dealing with the shoulder injury, he was fantastic.
Speaker 4: He was like the fifth overall player in Rodo regardless
Speaker 4: of that. So I got him just behind Willie Damas
Speaker 4: and Dansby Swanson, just ahead of Jake Croninworth and Chris Taylor.
Speaker 4: We did a mock draft last night and he went
Speaker 4: eighty fifth overall, So I think he's kind of scaring
Speaker 4: like eighty to one twenty range right now overall. And
Speaker 4: it's just a tough situation because it's a fluid situation.
Speaker 3: There's details coming out. We don't know if he's gonna.
Speaker 4: Have the surgery, but if he does, that's where I
Speaker 4: have him ranked as of now.
Speaker 1: That's where I have him too. I moved him down.
Speaker 1: I think he's at ninety overall or somewhere there. Also,
Speaker 1: I think I have him at shortstop sixteen or fifteen. Overall,
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly where, but I moved him basically
Speaker 1: behind Bobby Wood Junior because I think that's my threshold.
Speaker 1: It's do I want to take a full season of
Speaker 1: the rookie who I really believe in, or half a
Speaker 1: season of tatist. I think I want the rookie because
Speaker 1: I want the games. I want the volume. It's one
Speaker 1: thing in season long roto, but well, these head to
Speaker 1: head leagues, this kind of a time miss can absolutely
Speaker 1: crush you. So where have you had to adjust with tattoos?
Speaker 1: And what's your instincts? Tell you here? If you've got
Speaker 1: a draft coming up this weekend, you kind of have
Speaker 1: to make some hard choices here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you, guys. I did kind of
Speaker 2: the same thing. I want to say. I've got him
Speaker 2: at like eighty six eighty seven. I also put him
Speaker 2: right below Wit And actually in the discord there's a
Speaker 2: private little Chris welsh Ama room and our boy elc
Speaker 2: and asked this exact question, and I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I said, Listen, at this point, I believe Bobby Wood
Speaker 2: Junior is going to start the year. He's been working
Speaker 2: third base with the Majors there's an incentive now for
Speaker 2: teams to have these guys beyond the opening day roster
Speaker 2: makes all the sense in the world. So you know
Speaker 2: two and a half months. I mean we're talking like, okay,
Speaker 2: scenario is probably two maybe just under worst case scenario
Speaker 2: could be three months into the season or even beyond.
Speaker 2: I mean, what if there's also like a shoulder surgery
Speaker 2: and what that takes away? That that all that is
Speaker 2: a juice worth the squeeze. He's awesome when he's out there,
Speaker 2: but the time missed, even if it's roto, even if
Speaker 2: it's counting on the back end, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: a best ball or something is completely different. But I'm
Speaker 2: not it's super interested, though I do acknowledge this. One
Speaker 2: thing is that when I get into drafts, because someone
Speaker 2: asked me about this, I do feel like, probably after
Speaker 2: the fourth round, he's gonna be on my radar. You know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna see his name another one. I don't think
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about him, but you know, Ronald d'cunya
Speaker 2: didn't exactly get the most rousing endorsement this past week,
Speaker 2: and we talked about him last week Joe in. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know if we're miss games. Blah blah blah. That's
Speaker 2: not happening. And then they came out and said they
Speaker 2: hope he's back by May. It could be late May.
Speaker 2: So Ronald d'acunya is in a similar situation that you're
Speaker 2: gonna be into the third round and you might see
Speaker 2: Akunya and Tatisa on your draft board. It's going to
Speaker 2: be enticing. Let somebody else be the one that does
Speaker 2: the overreach, because to Frank's point, like when he said
Speaker 2: Dansby and Willia Domis, those sound gross, those sound super
Speaker 2: gross like, but the production you're gonna get from them
Speaker 2: for three months is anything with very little risk compared
Speaker 2: to what you have with Tatis. So the sad, unfortunate
Speaker 2: news is we I think we got to dump him
Speaker 2: down past seventy five, and then you know God willing
Speaker 2: to you in the format you play in and how
Speaker 2: you can cover for him if you want to jump in.
Speaker 1: I could see on Frank's face that he was not
Speaker 1: happy about your disparaging of Willia.
Speaker 2: Toms back Willia Dominus, but like black, like who wants
Speaker 2: Willia Domas is like your top guy.
Speaker 1: Frank, Save it save it for Save it for the
Speaker 1: draft day bargains. Frank, save it for that. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: You can unleash on Welsh later. Let's talk about matt Olsen.
Speaker 1: Matt Olson apparently on the move, and the Oakland A's
Speaker 1: are making moves, and matt Olsen moves to the Atlanta Braves,
Speaker 1: a better home ballpark certainly for him, and then they
Speaker 1: signed to an eight year extension. Not too shabby. I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt Olson forty dingers last year, one hundred and one hundred.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty darn good player. And now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he is moving to the Atlanta Braves. And
Speaker 1: Frank I was looking in the prop for him was
Speaker 1: thirty to one to lead the league in home runs.
Speaker 1: I was jumping on that yesterday. I think that's a
Speaker 1: fantastic one. But from a fantasy standpoint here this means
Speaker 1: if Freddy Freeman's not coming back. So how do you
Speaker 1: unpack this year for matt Olsen, this that the Braves made.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think overall it's a net positive, right, he
Speaker 4: moves to a seemingly better ballpark, a better lineup around
Speaker 4: him as well. Interestingly enough, you look on stackcast, you
Speaker 4: scroll down, they show how many home runs he would
Speaker 4: hit in each ballpark right. So last year he hit
Speaker 4: thirty nine home runs overall, and if he played all
Speaker 4: of his games in Atlanta and all of his batted
Speaker 4: balls were hit the exact same way, he only.
Speaker 3: Would have had thirty four home runs. So I found
Speaker 3: that interesting.
Speaker 4: Overall, I still think it's a better park shift for him,
Speaker 4: it's a better lineup around him.
Speaker 3: He was awesome last year.
Speaker 4: He made huge strides in terms of strikeout rate against
Speaker 4: left handed pitching, and that's really what afforded him the
Speaker 4: ability to break out and have the best season of
Speaker 4: his career. However, I worry about guys changing leagues, especially
Speaker 4: players that are being drafted this early too. I mean,
Speaker 4: his ADP is in the middle of the third round
Speaker 4: right now, and that skill set as well. I get
Speaker 4: it the power, it's enticing, but in a categories league,
Speaker 4: I'm typically looking for some kind of speed in my
Speaker 4: first three four rounds and points league I'm probably looking
Speaker 4: for pitching at that point, So he's just not a
Speaker 4: skill set that I typically target in that part of
Speaker 4: the draft. And I do worry that there could be
Speaker 4: a transition period here going from the American League to
Speaker 4: the National league.
Speaker 3: We saw it with Francisco Lindoram.
Speaker 4: Honestly, we've seen it with a bunch of stars basically
Speaker 4: as long as we've been playing this game. So I
Speaker 4: worry a little bit for Matt Olson. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to be the one drafting in the third.
Speaker 1: Round, all right, Welsherre, You're gonna be the one drafting
Speaker 1: with a third round seems like, you know, thirty five
Speaker 1: ninety five ninety five is a pretty good bid. That
Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty great third round player to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank said it pretty much how I would have
Speaker 2: said it as well, Like, I actually think this is
Speaker 2: a good positive for the support that's around that. I
Speaker 2: think there's a higher IRBI opportunity. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: just offensive support that's across this team. Much different team
Speaker 2: Oakland to the Atlanta Braves, but from a roster construction standpoint,
Speaker 2: that's not when I'm looking at first basement. I pass
Speaker 2: on Matt Olson all the time. If he were to fall,
Speaker 2: I'd be interested. He's not going to fall because now
Speaker 2: he's a brave. He's gotten out of Oakland and he's
Speaker 2: going to be a brave. And Franks All's right, there's
Speaker 2: a transitional thing. Another guy to thrown there, Manny Machado
Speaker 2: from a couple of years ago. We see that transitional change.
Speaker 2: I think this could be a little bit different. But
Speaker 2: you know, you say that, and you go and look
Speaker 2: at Manny Machado and all the guys they had around
Speaker 2: that he had the same thing. He's just not as
Speaker 2: fun as he is. He's not in that target range.
Speaker 2: I love Pee Alonzo, but kind of same thing. I
Speaker 2: like that big, big in power, but I would like
Speaker 2: it to fall a little bit, and Olsen does not.
Speaker 2: And the trade is not going to change anything, So
Speaker 2: net positive. I agree with draft target due to his cost,
Speaker 2: probably not for me.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Pee Alonzo. Two car flips three times
Speaker 1: in an accident, he walks away from it.
Speaker 2: He kicked a windshield out.
Speaker 1: Ab Pe Alonzo, Ladies and gentleman, that's my dude right there.
Speaker 1: All right. There were some trades too. The Mariners acquired
Speaker 1: outfielder Jesse Winker and third baseman a Canio Suarez from
Speaker 1: the Reds. They got Justin Dunn, Brandon Williamson, Jake Freeley,
Speaker 1: back Welsh. What do you make of this trade here?
Speaker 1: Obviously the Reds are shedding Anna Salary. Who knows if
Speaker 1: Castillo is next, but Jesse Winker and Suarez, I mean,
Speaker 1: two players that we've liked in fantasy over the years
Speaker 1: and different years. Certainly last year Waker was tremendous. But
Speaker 1: now you're moving him out of Cincinnati. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts here on what this does to their fantasy value?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny. When Winker was
Speaker 2: in the minors, his big thing was he was like
Speaker 2: a high, high contact hitter who really struggled to find
Speaker 2: his power in the miners. Then when he came up,
Speaker 2: he had these short little burst where it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he hit eight homers and one hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 2: bats and we kind of got excited. Then he kind
Speaker 2: of found himself. I don't obviously love the ballpark change
Speaker 2: for him, but I still think this is an overall
Speaker 2: positive because the Reds not a great, great team. It's
Speaker 2: a great ballpark. Seattle's not gonna be playing in Seattle
Speaker 2: for every single game, just half of them. I like
Speaker 2: the team. I like the team construction. I like it's
Speaker 2: being aggressive. He's going to hit right in the middle
Speaker 2: of the order. If you get bounced backs from guys
Speaker 2: like Jared Kelnick, you've got a running team RBI. I
Speaker 2: think it's better RBI opportunity in Seattle than there is
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. But I think it's it's just it's kind
Speaker 2: of like middle line, Like I don't see the reason
Speaker 2: to really dump him off because of a tiny bit
Speaker 2: of a power tick down where I think run an
Speaker 2: RBI opportunity can be there. So it's just it's a
Speaker 2: flat line for me.
Speaker 1: And Frank Your Yankees acquired Josh Donaldson and Isaiah Kiner
Speaker 1: Filefa for Geo or Schella and Gary Sanchez. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one? Because Josh Donaldson in New
Speaker 1: York City, to me, is not a good marriage in
Speaker 1: terms of the media and what I know of Josh Donaldson.
Speaker 1: So I think this is a peculiar It makes sense
Speaker 1: on paper. I'm a little worried about this one in practice?
Speaker 1: Or is it just get Gary Sanchez out of town? Oh?
Speaker 3: I mean, as a Yankee fan, I was ecstatic that.
Speaker 4: I don't have to watch Sanchez try to catch balls.
Speaker 4: I mean he didn't really do much catching actually, but yeah,
Speaker 4: so throw up here Yankee perspective. I'm fine with the movie.
Speaker 4: It kind of caught me off guard. It didn't really
Speaker 4: think that they needed to upgrade third base. They get
Speaker 4: their stopgap shortstop because obviously they are very excited about
Speaker 4: the prospects that are coming. Anthony Volpi the shortstop of
Speaker 4: the future there, so they get, you know, likely one
Speaker 4: year out of Isaiah kind of le Donaldson I already
Speaker 4: liked for fantasy because it felt like he was under value.
Speaker 4: He's going around pick two hundred according to Fantasy Pros ADP,
Speaker 4: and he was really good last year. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: hit around two fifty twenty six home runs eight twenty
Speaker 4: seven ops. He still walks a lot, strikeout rate is decent,
Speaker 4: and now the team context and the ballpark is much better.
Speaker 4: So now moving over to the Yankees, I think we're
Speaker 4: gonna start to see a little bit of attacks. I
Speaker 4: think he moves up probably like thirty forty spots in ADP,
Speaker 4: but I'd still be willing to take him there, especially
Speaker 4: with the third base position looking as bad as it is.
Speaker 4: So if you miss out on Chris Bryan and Anthony
Speaker 4: Rendon and Alex Bregman and those guys going in the
Speaker 4: middle round, I think Josh Donaldson is a great fallback
Speaker 4: option and.
Speaker 3: Then kinder Fileffa. You know, if you're playing a deeper
Speaker 3: rodo categories league.
Speaker 4: I think he could be like a ten homer, two
Speaker 4: eighty hitter, twenty plus steals, and again the context for
Speaker 4: the team is really good. So if you do play
Speaker 4: in a deeper format and you need some speed late,
Speaker 4: I think IKF is fine.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up because that was I
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about him, because I almost put him
Speaker 2: in the next section. What we're gonna talk about when
Speaker 2: we're kind of talking about bargains, not just to poke
Speaker 2: at Paul Spor and our ongoing Isaiah kind of Palifa
Speaker 2: beef or anything like that, but because he I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a guy that is going to stay on
Speaker 2: the field. He can run. If the team is going
Speaker 2: to allow him to run, he's gonna get that every day,
Speaker 2: and he's positioned his position eligibility is gonna work in
Speaker 2: his favor. Where I mean, josh Donlinson get hurts all
Speaker 2: the time, he can move over to third. The thing
Speaker 2: we don't know one hundred percent, but what if he
Speaker 2: got some catcher run again and he got that eligibility
Speaker 2: into the season. That was what was so enticing about
Speaker 2: him in Yahoo last year that I think the steel
Speaker 2: potential could uptick. And you actually, I think gave a
Speaker 2: pretty aggressive line. If he were ten ish Holmer's twenty
Speaker 2: stolen bases, he's probably I think I saw some of
Speaker 2: the roster resource depth charts like around I think seven
Speaker 2: or eight or something like that. You're gonna get run opportunity.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be kind of devoid in RBI. I think
Speaker 2: posts like two point fifty or wherever he is. He's
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: go as far as bargain. That's why I didn't put
Speaker 2: him in, but I think he's close to that. If
Speaker 2: you're looking for a little bit deeper league in a
Speaker 2: middle infield for an uptick and stolen bases, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, God knows, man, he could jump into a
Speaker 2: little bit more power. Maybe he gets pushed up in
Speaker 2: the lineup if there's injuries. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of possibilities with him and his position eligibility is really
Speaker 2: going to help, and he might get some more spots
Speaker 2: with the Yankees.
Speaker 1: One year deal for Nelson Cruz for the Nationals. This
Speaker 1: makes sense to me, Guys, because if you're the Nationals,
Speaker 1: you give Soto some support there for a few months,
Speaker 1: and then you trade them off and basically you spent
Speaker 1: money to get prospects, right, I mean Welsh that that's
Speaker 1: pretty much what his cruise deal is, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, I think on paper for US is
Speaker 2: what it looks like. But he mentioned that the reason
Speaker 2: he came here was because he was sold maybe a
Speaker 2: bill of goods, but he was sold that the team
Speaker 2: still plans to make more moves, that they still plan
Speaker 2: to make this team competitive. And I know, yeah, I
Speaker 2: could see that. Oh that that's smug, like I right, like,
Speaker 2: look that you just give er. But I would say
Speaker 2: this though, so many more of the fringe teams are
Speaker 2: that's a really good roberts Niro. By the way, that
Speaker 2: looks like Facebook Robert D. Niro. If there was ever
Speaker 2: a reason besides my baseball ism, Ken Griffy eight bit
Speaker 2: hat to look at is Joe's de Niro face right now.
Speaker 2: But the fringe teams in each division are more palatable
Speaker 2: to potentially jump into the playoffs now with expanded that.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Nationals, I don't think it's silly,
Speaker 2: it's regardless of us looking at the dumb roster, but
Speaker 2: look at the pitching that they have. This is a
Speaker 2: team that is kind of pot committed to make a
Speaker 2: stab at it unless they can unload. And guess what
Speaker 2: they showed us, They're not going to take a stab
Speaker 2: at it because they signed Nelson Cruz. I think they
Speaker 2: still got a bullet or two to make, and I
Speaker 2: think they're going to make a run. So you say
Speaker 2: trade candidate. If they lose and Corbyn is back to
Speaker 2: two pitches and both unsuccessful and Strasbourg back on the
Speaker 2: il okay, Yeah, then Cruz is absolutely going to get
Speaker 2: probably slung over to the Padres or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Nelson Cruz's words to me make
Speaker 2: it seem like he's going to be there for a bit,
Speaker 2: and I like the move.
Speaker 1: All right, Frank, We've got left handed pitcher Carlos for
Speaker 1: Don saying a two year deal with the excuse me,
Speaker 1: your Giants. I've been in football all day, the San
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants for forty four million dollars. So obviously a
Speaker 1: spectacular season for Carlos, wrote Don last year, especially the
Speaker 1: first half, it was actually fantastic. Then a little bit
Speaker 1: of miss time, a little bit of regression, which was
Speaker 1: going to happen because he was so far off the chart.
Speaker 1: And this is what I struggle with, Frank, because the
Speaker 1: Giants have had a really good history of plucking some
Speaker 1: of these guys and them continuing or having success there
Speaker 1: for the first time. So does the fact that the
Speaker 1: Giants went after him and that group specifically give you
Speaker 1: cautious optimism for his value this year and maybe beyond.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I actually really like the circumstances here for Carlsurdan,
Speaker 4: not only signing with the San Francisco Giants, they've done
Speaker 4: great work with.
Speaker 3: Really not just pitchers but hitters as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, they've just done fantastic the past couple of
Speaker 4: years with Brandon Crawford and Eva Longoria and Brandon Belt
Speaker 4: and Buster Posey getting as much as they can under
Speaker 4: those guys, but most recently Kevin Gosman Drew Smiley was
Speaker 4: really good there as well. They got a lot out
Speaker 4: of Alex Wood, and now Carlos Hordan jumps into the mix.
Speaker 3: I love the contract that they gave him to me.
Speaker 4: That was more than anything else here is the fact
Speaker 4: that they were okay committing forty four million dollars over
Speaker 4: two years when he wasn't even given the qualifying offer
Speaker 4: by the Chicago White Sox. So I always found that
Speaker 4: curious the White Fox didn't give it to him. And
Speaker 4: then another team goes out and what I consider a
Speaker 4: pretty smart team in the San Francisco Giants, they go
Speaker 4: out and to give him two years in each year
Speaker 4: is worth more than that qualifying offer. And on top
Speaker 4: of that, he was just ridiculous last year. So there's
Speaker 4: a lot of moving parts here. He dealt with the
Speaker 4: shoulder injury. It's been an issue for him. You know,
Speaker 4: all throughout his career, velocity was down. Over his final
Speaker 4: four Stars, he was like down at like ninety two
Speaker 4: to ninety three, whereas for most of the season he
Speaker 4: was around ninety six.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Joe.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a tough one for me to figure out.
Speaker 4: I've been much lower on him basically all off season.
Speaker 4: I have moved him up, but not enough. I think
Speaker 4: people there's always going to be someone in a draft
Speaker 4: who likes Carlos Horddan more than me, and as a result,
Speaker 4: I'm probably not going to wind up with a lot
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw goes back to the Dodgers one year seventeen million.
Speaker 1: It's important for the Dodgers too and Welsh. This also
Speaker 1: feels like, as we get the Trevor Bower news that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be an investigation there, this seemed like just
Speaker 1: a smart thing for all parties to come to an
Speaker 1: agreement there. What are your thoughts on Kershaw this year
Speaker 1: in terms of I know, last year you were somebody
Speaker 1: that I remember talking to that was, you know, very
Speaker 1: pro drafting Kershaw. I was still on the fence about it.
Speaker 1: So are you ready to go down that well again
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. I think this is one of the best
Speaker 2: case scenarios you could possibly have. It's a situation for
Speaker 2: lots of wins. It's a team he's familiar with, there's
Speaker 2: no transitional period. It's a great offense still to be seen.
Speaker 2: If they are going to spend more. You don't love
Speaker 2: that the Dodgers, well you can look at it both ways.
Speaker 2: Doesn't say you don't love that the Dodgers might occasionally
Speaker 2: throw in a six man rotation or a deep bullpen
Speaker 2: or something like that, but actually works in favor of
Speaker 2: a guy like Kershaw. You know, you don't have to
Speaker 2: hate the idea of him having an occasional start skipped
Speaker 2: or you know, maybe him going only five or something
Speaker 2: like that, because you want him to be clean, you
Speaker 2: want him to be healthy, and you want to be
Speaker 2: able to make through me. Can you really count past
Speaker 2: one fifty? I think it's the best case scenario when
Speaker 2: he pitches. And this is like a big key for me.
Speaker 2: With a lot of guys, I know, we get bogged
Speaker 2: down and we kind of say the same things. We're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the guys, you know, blah blah blah, never gonna draft him.
Speaker 2: You know, Jacob's grom just not gonna touch him, Never
Speaker 2: gonna draft it, He's never gonna be healthy. We always
Speaker 2: do that stuff. But like when Kershaw is going, he's
Speaker 2: one of the best. Now, if it's only for one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty innings and it gets you at a
Speaker 2: critical time, that sucks. But guess what cost. It's a
Speaker 2: beautiful cost right now. So I'm all for it. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not really sure if it is like
Speaker 2: dictating what's going on with Bauer that the Bower thing
Speaker 2: is like continuously getting out.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think if you're the Dodgers. You want to
Speaker 1: cover yourself and make sure you have somebody in that
Speaker 1: third spot in that rotation, because after the third spot
Speaker 1: you've got guys you're you're optimistic about that. You hope
Speaker 1: things go well, but you're not exactly sold on everybody
Speaker 1: there at four and five. So I think every rotation
Speaker 1: is like that. I mean the Mets are like that.
Speaker 1: And when speaking of the Mets, you're talking about Creton Kershaw,
Speaker 1: who is number thirty eight overall in terms of pitchers
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros. Thirty seven is Chris Bassett, who is
Speaker 1: now New York Met, part of the Oakland jettising of players.
Speaker 1: So this is another really important one because of the
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom potential health issues right that are looming over
Speaker 1: everyone who drafts him this year. Max Schurz are at
Speaker 1: the top of that rotation with him is great, but really,
Speaker 1: you know, you had a knee surgery for Taiwan Walker,
Speaker 1: he had, Carls Carrasco was not healthy all year last year.
Speaker 1: So getting somebody to stabilize this rotation, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: Chris Bassett is a slam dunk last year one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty seven innings. He had twelve wins, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty nine ks, thirty nine walks, three fifteen ERA,
Speaker 1: a one zero six whip. Frank, what do you think
Speaker 1: of this Chris Bassett addition to that Mets rotation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so overall, I think he's annually undervalued. He's got
Speaker 4: a three point two to three ERA since the start
Speaker 4: of twenty eighteen, that is fifteenth among qualified starting pitchers.
Speaker 4: But you dig a little bit deeper and you look
Speaker 4: at the career splits, and I kind of worry about
Speaker 4: Chris Bassett. Not that he's moving to a much worse ballpark,
Speaker 4: but Oco really is one of the best places to
Speaker 4: pitch in baseball. So in his career a two point
Speaker 4: five to eight ERA in Oakland, a four point three
Speaker 4: four e RA on the road. So again, another one
Speaker 4: moving from the AL to the NL universal DH Now
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a bit of a transition period.
Speaker 4: H I think he's fine where he's going, but you know,
Speaker 4: much like he's going to stabilize the Mets rotation. I
Speaker 4: think that's what you're relying on him to do in
Speaker 4: in your fantasy rotation, right, and he's a stabilizer. I
Speaker 4: don't think that he has like tremendous upside or anything. Uh,
Speaker 4: he's fine. I worry a little bit about a transition
Speaker 4: period for him as well.
Speaker 2: Let me ask for who do you want?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Yeah, you're gonna do what I was gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Who do you want? Chris Bassett or Clayton Kershaw?
Speaker 1: Ad let's go.
Speaker 4: I will take the upside of Clayton Kershaw on a
Speaker 4: per star basis. I still think he's better. Swinging trike
Speaker 4: rate was the best of his career last year, Like
Speaker 4: we're talking about a Hall of Famer like Perennial Cy
Speaker 4: young contender and a swinging strike rate was actually the
Speaker 4: best that it's ever been last year.
Speaker 3: So I'll take him. But it's close.
Speaker 1: It's funny, well because because if you look around, you know,
Speaker 1: the e ra for Bassett was better, the strikeouts were
Speaker 1: more because he threw more innings. But you're right, it
Speaker 1: had to head. I think I would take Kershaw because
Speaker 1: the start by start in Rodo. I think it's more
Speaker 1: of a discussion. I'd probably take Kershaw. But I know
Speaker 1: what you're doing Welsh, right, Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm glad we were both like, well, it's
Speaker 2: funny we have like three hosts here. We all have
Speaker 2: that host mindset where I'm like, not, let me, let
Speaker 2: me ask a question because it's one hundred percent what
Speaker 2: I was gonna say is this is a really good one.
Speaker 2: In my own personal ranks, I've got Kershaw a couple
Speaker 2: sp spots higher than Bassett, and I like Bassett. I
Speaker 2: like the destination again targeting, you know, especially boring pictures.
Speaker 2: A lot of like these boring like Nathan Uvaldi, Charlie Moore.
Speaker 2: These guys are boring, but they're really good for teams,
Speaker 2: team construction, and Bassett is really good for that as well.
Speaker 2: Going to a place where you're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: stack on wins. But in both formats, I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw. You get the win format. He's also I
Speaker 2: think one of just the best pitchers when he's on
Speaker 2: health seems to be there. He was actually over at
Speaker 2: the Players Association training facility out here in Mesa for
Speaker 2: a couple of days, you know, getting some private work
Speaker 2: in as well. Seems healthy. So it is Kershaw on
Speaker 2: both friends for me. But I'm are we sweeping it, Joe? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you said you're taking cursing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know me. I'm a head to head dude.
Speaker 1: I'll go for this season long stuff. Not for me.
Speaker 1: I need more action. But look, I mean you're right.
Speaker 1: Start by star Basis. He's playing Kershaw. He's all famer, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that ADP is a little screw right now.
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see how that changes things. Let's take
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Speaker 1: with spring trining on, not only come signings and there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of the guys out there, but also
Speaker 1: come injuries. So Zach Wheeler experiencing shoulder soreness during his
Speaker 1: throwing program in December. All the way back there, Jack
Speaker 1: Flaherty just got sent for medical evaluation on his right shoulder.
Speaker 1: So Welsh, you want to take one of these? How
Speaker 1: you feeling about some of these pitchers? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the thing. I almost feel like we're getting to
Speaker 1: a point where it's zero SP is going to be
Speaker 1: my new theory of drafting baseball teams, Like you know,
Speaker 1: the zero RB theories got to drag itself over. But
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Well? And also throwing Zach Gallen who Zach Gallon Allen
Speaker 2: and another one the l issues which I think he
Speaker 2: spoke on it today over at the Diamondbacks facility. You know,
Speaker 2: I agree with you, But part of the thing I
Speaker 2: don't like is that with what you're saying, like a
Speaker 2: lot of the fun guys that you want to take
Speaker 2: kind of on that back end, those are the ones
Speaker 2: that seem to be struggling, like not Wheeler. Like Wheeler's
Speaker 2: kind of the elite range, but Flerty has been a
Speaker 2: really kind of popular one for me. When I start
Speaker 2: to really want to dip into that picture range, like
Speaker 2: he's there and it's like, oh, you know top sp
Speaker 2: one upside, Now you take him off the board one
Speaker 2: thousand percent. Gallon is one of those guys as well.
Speaker 2: This is just a funny anecdotal thing. But you know,
Speaker 2: I love like I love to draft Blake Snell and
Speaker 2: I also do my impersonation of him. Oh man, I
Speaker 2: got to get paid. This is Blake Snell here. I
Speaker 2: saw him yesterday two days ago at Padres Qadre Yo
Speaker 2: Joey p I got, I swear to god, he talked
Speaker 2: like this yesterday. He's like, oh man, I gotta go
Speaker 2: back in the inside. So he's coming back, and so
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to him and he just got
Speaker 2: done throw and he goes, oh man, I gotta go inside.
Speaker 2: I'm hot. I got hot out here. And he went
Speaker 2: inside because he was warm, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: come on, Blake, you're warm. You're warm in Arizona. Like
Speaker 2: I don't want to give him a soft rating or
Speaker 2: anything like that, but I like Blake. But beside the point,
Speaker 2: guys like Gallon and Flairty, those are targets. Those are
Speaker 2: targets that I want. And now that you're getting, you know,
Speaker 2: we're getting the repercussions of the lockout, where players couldn't
Speaker 2: speak to any of their trainers, they couldn't speak with
Speaker 2: the organization to go through. I mean, Tatisa is another
Speaker 2: example of that that I do worry a little bit
Speaker 2: overall on pitching. As we've been pumping them up. How
Speaker 2: many more guys you know, over the next week, how
Speaker 2: many more guys are we going to get? Like, oh,
Speaker 2: little sore arm over here, a little thing over here
Speaker 2: that I don't know if I've decided is that a
Speaker 2: punt sp strategy or is that, oh my god, cling
Speaker 2: to the top guys, similar to what you're doing with closers,
Speaker 2: cling to the guys that you know right now, sans Wheeler,
Speaker 2: and then try not to dip your toes too far in,
Speaker 2: you know, to like, Oh, I'm gonna build my rotation
Speaker 2: about all these other guys, and you're going to get Darvish,
Speaker 2: Kershaw and Gallon and then you're gonna have absolutely nobody
Speaker 2: pitching for you in June. So I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if I'm gonna punt.
Speaker 1: Frank, how scared you specifically have Wheeler two? Because last
Speaker 1: year was the big breakout. Now you got to pay
Speaker 1: the premium. So he is being drafted as a top
Speaker 1: guy because he performed like a top guy last year,
Speaker 1: even though the track record has told you he's up
Speaker 1: and down for his career. Now you throw in a
Speaker 1: potential shoulder issue. What does that do to his draft stock?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I lowered him from I had him as
Speaker 4: my SP four and I moved him down to SP twelve,
Speaker 4: so just behind Lucas Shilito and Aaron Nola.
Speaker 3: It might be an overreaction.
Speaker 4: I saw that he threw a bullpen yesterday and then
Speaker 4: curiously enough, you know we're doing this Tuesday, March fifteenth. Uh,
Speaker 4: they came out and said that now he's the flu,
Speaker 4: so he's not gonna throw his next bullpen.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, it seems a little.
Speaker 1: He's got the flu in his shoulder. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: That sale a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: Remember he was like sick and then oh he needed
Speaker 4: Tommy John like a week later.
Speaker 3: Oh that's funny how that worked out.
Speaker 1: I had the same thing. I think, Well, you remember, right,
Speaker 1: I had a stuffy nose. The next thing you do,
Speaker 1: I had a complete acl redo.
Speaker 2: That's that You're like, You're like, oh, yeah, I had
Speaker 2: some sniffles and then I broke my foot, and You're like,
Speaker 2: what what's the correlation?
Speaker 3: Who let me?
Speaker 2: So you said you have forgive Wheeler at twelve yep,
Speaker 2: is you have Bieber ahead.
Speaker 4: I have Bieber ahead of him, Sanduel Contra, Julio Rias, Lucasgilito,
Speaker 4: and Aaron Nola.
Speaker 3: So met like the three four turn in a twelve
Speaker 3: team league.
Speaker 2: So how far off, and especially with some of the
Speaker 2: new news would you consider? Right he is rob Ray
Speaker 2: in that category. I'm just curious, like, is Robbie Ray
Speaker 2: in that range where you go, there's too much fear
Speaker 2: with Wheeler right now that Ray in Seattle might be
Speaker 2: a better bet.
Speaker 4: So he is the very next starting pitcher that I
Speaker 4: have behind Zach Wheeler. And to me, that was like
Speaker 4: the cutoff where I'm still willing to take the risk,
Speaker 4: the health risk with Zach Wheeler because I think that
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of just overall risk with Robbie Ray
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Not me. Give me Robbie Ray all day over Zach
Speaker 1: Wheeler right now. I am. I am content. I did it.
Speaker 1: In the last Mock Draft episode, if you remember Welsh,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good, let's go. Robbie Ray could
Speaker 1: be my dude. I'm I'm away from pitching.
Speaker 2: You like those typererrys?
Speaker 1: I know I do, got those tight pants on. All right.
Speaker 1: A couple other things to talk about before we shift
Speaker 1: gears to the draft day bargains, and we'll get to
Speaker 1: those guys in second half of the show as promised.
Speaker 1: So no more ten day, I l It's going to
Speaker 1: be the fifteen day again, which I think is important. Welsh,
Speaker 1: How does that impact in your opinion transactions now because
Speaker 1: we all thought, oh great, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: saving grace for baseball. We're gonna get guys back faster. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: what happened was just everybody went to the il all
Speaker 1: the time. Now that we're pushing it back to the fifteen,
Speaker 1: are we going to get a better version of fantasy
Speaker 1: because of that?
Speaker 2: Oh boy? I mean, I don't know if that's necessarily
Speaker 2: going to be the case. I think you're gonna have
Speaker 2: similar arguments now. Okay to one thing I just thought
Speaker 2: about is they are so limiting calling up and down.
Speaker 2: There's not you can't do the Oliveris thing where you
Speaker 2: have three hundred and forty seven call ups in a
Speaker 2: season you're gonna be restricted to like five. So maybe
Speaker 2: if you take that on top of like really need
Speaker 2: to be discerning the iel stints, it actually could a
Speaker 2: little bit more. The only thing I worry about is
Speaker 2: you've got, you know, less of a spring that, especially
Speaker 2: maybe early on. I don't feel like that's necessarily going
Speaker 2: to be the case. I think teams are going to
Speaker 2: play it very saferly on. If there's anything lingering, I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna throw guys out. You've got your minor
Speaker 2: leaguers that can come up. I'm just not sure you're
Speaker 2: going to see a better fantasy early. I think the
Speaker 2: opportunity for a better fantasy game is in the back
Speaker 2: half of the year, as the playoff stretch comes in.
Speaker 2: There's more teams that are available to go call ups
Speaker 2: and call and senddowns. Might be at a limited point
Speaker 2: that I think that's the point where teams are going
Speaker 2: to be very discerning about il stons. But I'd also
Speaker 2: throw out, like, how much is it going to piss
Speaker 2: you off if a team doesn't want to put a
Speaker 2: guy on a IL and they skip a start because
Speaker 2: he can't pitch because he's hurt, But they don't want
Speaker 2: to put on the il for fifteen days, and now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you can't even do a pickup.
Speaker 2: So consider that where if a team like let's say
Speaker 2: let's just say cursh Off for example, you know he's
Speaker 2: got a little lingering thing, but they're like, we don't
Speaker 2: want to lose him for two weeks. We just want
Speaker 2: to push the start out. So instead of where before
Speaker 2: il stent you get a free guy for ten days,
Speaker 2: now you won't because they don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: So you know, it can go both ways.
Speaker 1: These are the important conversations we're having here. Another one too,
Speaker 1: is Toronto right now, if you're not vaccinated, you can't
Speaker 1: go play. Also, I just saw this come around too
Speaker 1: on Vaccined players from the Yankees and Mets would not
Speaker 1: be eligible to play home games under the current COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen rules in New York City. Now those rules could change,
Speaker 1: but Frank, as of right now, that seems like kind
Speaker 1: of a big deal to me. How about you trying
Speaker 1: to make your fancy lineup. Don't you kind of need
Speaker 1: those guys? Dude?
Speaker 3: What a mess?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing my TGFBI shirt right now.
Speaker 4: And recently wrapped up the draft and I think two
Speaker 4: of my first three picks for Fernando Tatis and Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4: So just a complete mess of a situation. And you
Speaker 4: know it's developing right now. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: There was another report that, uh, they the teams believe
Speaker 4: that this will be quote handled, the situation will be
Speaker 4: handled by opening day, which is.
Speaker 1: That also makes me want to make Robert de Niro face.
Speaker 2: That sounds like New York like that sounds like a
Speaker 2: manhandling the mofiel, Like, yeah, yeah, I handle this. When
Speaker 2: I handle this COVID vaccine stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Joey, we'll talk about me work it out.
Speaker 4: The problem is like there was a there was a
Speaker 4: video someone asked Aaron Judge today if he was vaccinated
Speaker 4: and his answer was like it's a yes or no question,
Speaker 4: and he just kind of like beat around the bush
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, you know, we'll handle it, you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: Look, I think we've all learned. I don't want to
Speaker 1: make there's not a political show here. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this is important to talk about from a fancy perspective,
Speaker 1: because if you can't play Aaron Judge because if let's
Speaker 1: just use him as an example. If he's not right,
Speaker 1: this is the easy question. If he asked me and
Speaker 1: I say, yes, I am right, it's very easy. And
Speaker 1: I have no one who hems in Hawes. Typically they
Speaker 1: either don't want to have a conversation about it for
Speaker 1: one reason or other, they don't want to stir up something,
Speaker 1: or they're not so if I can't play Aaron Judge,
Speaker 1: I agree, I think it's going to be handled. But
Speaker 1: it's certainly something right now that under the current rules,
Speaker 1: it's something we have to talk about because they've got
Speaker 1: have a huge impact, especially in Ina. Some of those
Speaker 1: daily transaction leagues try to move guys all over the place.
Speaker 2: I think I heard Geo wasn't Gee or or Sella
Speaker 2: and then he just got traded. You got to wonder like,
Speaker 2: did that play a little bit of a role and
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but it's not impossible. It's not impossible. Also,
Speaker 1: we have to use insider. Chris Welsh was at the
Speaker 1: field today. He's got some breaking news. He tweeted it earlier.
Speaker 1: But you've got a guy a prospect of the White
Speaker 1: Sox working out a different position. So this is why
Speaker 1: we love having Welsh on the show. You know, he
Speaker 1: is Ken Rosenthal without the bowt t or.
Speaker 2: Or maybe he does.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen you could pull off
Speaker 1: the boat tie. I think a lot of you think
Speaker 1: Welsh could pull off the boat tie. I think good.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll try it sometime if someone wants
Speaker 2: to send me a bow tie, like, I'll pub some coming.
Speaker 2: Like I wish I could pull more things off, like
Speaker 2: I barely think I can pull off hats like I've
Speaker 2: tried cowboy hats. It's awful. I don't think I'm a
Speaker 2: pull off type of guy.
Speaker 1: But boy hats. No baseball cap yet it's bow ties. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think we can agree on that.
Speaker 3: I did I give us.
Speaker 1: The inside scoop because we might have a guy who
Speaker 1: I don't say changing positions, but maybe might be getting
Speaker 1: a look to spring in a position.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was over at the White Sox facility today.
Speaker 2: I got to see Chris Rose by the way now
Speaker 2: with John Boy Media and talk with him for a
Speaker 2: little bit. All the guys are out there. They were
Speaker 2: doing hitting drills and they've got kind of a glut
Speaker 2: of corn field outfield players. They also just signed Josh Harrison,
Speaker 2: who was speaking with the media, and I go over
Speaker 2: to one of the side fields. It's there's like the
Speaker 2: big main fields and there's kind of like a private
Speaker 2: it's only an infield. A lot of the teams have
Speaker 2: these diamondbacks have them and it's just Ane and working
Speaker 2: over there is Pevin Smith at first and Andrew Vaughn
Speaker 2: at second base, and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: you know, because sometimes you get guys that just like
Speaker 2: go over to second during BP and they just doing
Speaker 2: But no, this was three coaches working with Vaughn, talking
Speaker 2: him through each one and they would hit it to
Speaker 2: Gavin that then could roll it over, you know, and
Speaker 2: Andrew Vaughn could play the full run. And I got
Speaker 2: some video of it. I tweeted it out and after
Speaker 2: it was asked, someone asked, Hey, are you going to
Speaker 2: be playing in the outfield this year? And he kind
Speaker 2: of himmed in hoddle over. He's like, you know, we'll
Speaker 2: see where they want to play me. And then he goes,
Speaker 2: I just want to play wherever the coaches want me.
Speaker 2: And this is literally him coming off of running second
Speaker 2: base drills where they talk with him. They were doing
Speaker 2: full grounders I mean, we were doing the full thing,
Speaker 2: So just something to consider out there that I don't
Speaker 2: think they're stuck or they really know what position he's
Speaker 2: going to play. Doesn't sound like outfield might be the lock,
Speaker 2: and I think they're just trying to get positioned flexibility.
Speaker 2: But I think they got Lori Garcia there and Josh Harrison,
Speaker 2: but Andrew Vaughn working at second base, So keep an
Speaker 2: eye on that, maybe some future flexibility or just major
Speaker 2: questions about, you know, how the hell they can get
Speaker 2: him in the lineup.
Speaker 1: We've still got Freddy Freeman, Carlos Correa, Chris Bryan, and
Speaker 1: a host of other free agents he had to sign.
Speaker 1: So make sure you have our Fantasy Pro's News Desk
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Speaker 1: the breaking news happens and that way you will stay
Speaker 1: up to date with this. All of this. Now, let's
Speaker 1: talk about your welshos. Get your Welsh bobs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we drop my Welsh bomb.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's right, Welsh bombs all over again. Look, you
Speaker 1: got the good footage out there. He's out there in
Speaker 1: Arizona in the heat. He could stand it. Lake Snell
Speaker 1: connot Welsh is still out there.
Speaker 2: Man, it was so hot, Joe. It was so hot, man.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll write a rap song about it.
Speaker 1: Dang, he was so hot. Well, Frank, you know how
Speaker 1: hot it was out there?
Speaker 2: Getting hot in her sounds hot?
Speaker 1: Right? All right, let's go with some draft day bargains
Speaker 1: right now, Frank, let's start with you. Who is a
Speaker 1: draft day bargain. We'll get ten of these, five each
Speaker 1: for the boys. Here, give me your first one that
Speaker 1: you think is going a little later than he should
Speaker 1: and you think is actually a good return on investment.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go with the old, boring veteran,
Speaker 4: Charlie Morton, who has an ADP of eighty six point
Speaker 4: two and feels like he's just being undervalued because he's
Speaker 4: thirty eight years old. But you look at what he
Speaker 4: did last year three point three four Era one oh
Speaker 4: four whip over two hundred strikeouts, and really from twenty
Speaker 4: seventeen on he's been fantastic.
Speaker 3: Three three four.
Speaker 4: Era one one three whip well over a strikeout per ending.
Speaker 4: He did have that blip in the short and twenty
Speaker 4: twenty he dealt with the shoulder injury, but he bounced back.
Speaker 4: Last year velocity was fine swinging strike rate was awesome
Speaker 4: back with the Atlanta Braves. Yes, he's coming back from
Speaker 4: the broken leg, but so far he's been good in
Speaker 4: training camp. He's been throwing bullpens, and I think that
Speaker 4: we're gonna start to see his price actually rise.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 4: I think people were worried about, you know, where's the
Speaker 4: health with Charlie Morton at his age. But I think
Speaker 4: as people start to see him healthy in inspring game,
Speaker 4: so he's probably even gonna rise a little bit. So
Speaker 4: if you're drafting now, I would say, try and get
Speaker 4: as much Charlie Morton as you can.
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton I feel better about than Zach Wheeler. I
Speaker 1: don't care you've broken leg and all. I feel more
Speaker 1: at ease with Charlie Morton towards the top of my
Speaker 1: rotation than I do Zach Wheeler. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: because I'm a Mett fan and I've seen so much
Speaker 1: bad Zach Wheeler in my life. But where was this
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton in his twenties and early thirties. This is
Speaker 1: the thing I want to know, Frank. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is stunning, right, This was a guy who's you know,
Speaker 1: going one hundred and fifty seven innings, he could barely
Speaker 1: strike out one hundred and twenty five guys, and then,
Speaker 1: as you were saying, twenty seventeen happens, and ever since then,
Speaker 1: we're looking a one hundred and sixty three k's two
Speaker 1: oh one, two forty last year, two sixteen. Just a
Speaker 1: stunning turnaround of a career so late.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he had a huge uptick in velocity. I
Speaker 4: think that the Houston Astros, I mean, they've done this
Speaker 4: with a few other pitchers, but they really just found
Speaker 4: a way to get the most out of him. And
Speaker 4: he's always had that ridiculous curve ball too, So those
Speaker 4: things in conjunction together, I mean, uh, this is the
Speaker 4: best that we've ever seen a pitch for really the
Speaker 4: twilight of his career. So yeah, the velocity and that
Speaker 4: big hook together, it's it's worked very well for Charlie Morton.
Speaker 1: So I'm in SPA T twenty six on the board. Gimme, gimme,
Speaker 1: I'm all over it all right, Welsh, give me your
Speaker 1: first guy for a draft day bargain.
Speaker 2: So I've actually kind of teetered around with this guy
Speaker 2: because there's this guy, and then I kind of think
Speaker 2: there's another version of him forty picks later, which makes
Speaker 2: him an even better bargain. But just follow me here.
Speaker 2: The guy I picked kind of trying to follow Frank's
Speaker 2: model as well, of like little high, little medium, a
Speaker 2: little bit low. I kind of like how he did
Speaker 2: that with the bargains, because bargains are completely different for
Speaker 2: all of us. But a draft day bargain I feel
Speaker 2: like is Ela Jmenez, Eloy Jimenez. We've talked about Joe
Speaker 2: just because this is a high four category player that
Speaker 2: you're getting into the fifties or the sixties. I believe
Speaker 2: he was fifty seven fifty six last I looked on
Speaker 2: the ECR on Fantasy Pros. Then he can go even past.
Speaker 1: Nine today Welsh, if you could believe it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he went down three spots from when I
Speaker 2: last checked it this which is literally last night. But
Speaker 2: we're talking like mid thirty homers. You got the good
Speaker 2: runs in the RBI. Now the difference the guy I
Speaker 2: wanted to pick, and I kind of want to throw
Speaker 2: him in here because I don't believe I want to
Speaker 2: make sure I didn't incept any brains here yet I
Speaker 2: know we're not talking about him is fran will Reys,
Speaker 2: Because fran will Reys, to me is one of the
Speaker 2: most absolute power targets you need to have in your draft.
Speaker 2: The problem he has is not every format pretty much
Speaker 2: just Yahoo. Is he going to qualified outfield? Uh? If
Speaker 2: you get the outfield eligibility, then I think you're looking
Speaker 2: at like the cheaper bargain version of Eloy with a
Speaker 2: little bit of batting average risk but his util. So
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't jump onto it. You get more
Speaker 2: batting average and you get an actual fielder with Eloy
Speaker 2: right now, where fran Mil you're stuck to util. That
Speaker 2: takes away Otani, or if you take Otani, you can't
Speaker 2: have fran Mill and that also takes one of Nelson Cruz,
Speaker 2: who's kind of a bargain. So I didn't mean to
Speaker 2: like add two in here, but I wanted it to
Speaker 2: be frand Mill because it's like, holy crap, this is
Speaker 2: a solid three category high category guy with a little
Speaker 2: sub fourth. Eloy is four solid categories and probably one
Speaker 2: of the better offenses. And if he's healthy, he's still young.
Speaker 2: He's by the way, Eloy, he is a younger than
Speaker 2: franmil Reyis, which is like unbelievable to think about.
Speaker 1: Eloy is still so young and we haven't even scratched
Speaker 1: the surface of how good that kid is. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, last year, people just kind of rote them
Speaker 1: off because of the injury, I feel like, and he
Speaker 1: didn't talk about him and Robert was all the buzz instead.
Speaker 1: But Jimenez is an incredible talent. I love friend mil too.
Speaker 1: I wish the run score was a little higher. It's
Speaker 1: the only thing, like even a couple years ago when
Speaker 1: he had thirty seven bombs, he only scored sixty nine runs.
Speaker 1: And even last year thirty Dingers one hundred and fifteen games,
Speaker 1: fifty seven runs scored. But I'm with you. I like
Speaker 1: both these guys. I want both of them on my team.
Speaker 1: And just to get an idea to fran mil Reyis
Speaker 1: is at one fifty one thirteen excuse me overall in
Speaker 1: the ECR Oh.
Speaker 2: It's a really I thought he just looked and he
Speaker 2: I had him at ninety six. What am I looking at?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm looking I'm looking at the ECR ADP consensus
Speaker 1: right now. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I see on the Fantasy Baseball rankings for
Speaker 2: mixed leagues. I see him at ninety six, regardless of
Speaker 2: the point he's there. And you know what, I look
Speaker 2: at Eloy as I look at Eloy as the backstop
Speaker 2: to Jordan Alvarez, like everybody wants Jordan Alvarez in the
Speaker 2: second round it with a give me, give me four
Speaker 2: category that's Eloy, Like Eloy was Jordan before Jordan was
Speaker 2: And you can get that thirty picks later. And I,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to prioritize speed as much as
Speaker 2: I can on the early front of drafts. So you know,
Speaker 2: let's say I get a top hitter, I'd like to
Speaker 2: get another speedy type of guy in the second round.
Speaker 2: I might start looking at pitchers, starting pitchers and closers
Speaker 2: in the third and fourth, and you might have Eloy
Speaker 2: sitting there in the fifth or sixth.
Speaker 1: For you.
Speaker 2: I think I registered the absolute best bargain pick of
Speaker 2: him in TGFBI. I got the lowest of any in
Speaker 2: any single league at ninety three. It's an absolute steal.
Speaker 2: It's it's everything you want out of Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 1: But just cheaper. All right, Frank, give me another name
Speaker 1: on your list of draft day bargains.
Speaker 4: All right, So I'm gonna go with a first basement,
Speaker 4: and he's part of a quartet, a group that I
Speaker 4: have dubbed the profit pocket.
Speaker 3: So these are just undervalue.
Speaker 4: All four stable, all more of these first basement, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, are undervalued. It's Reese Haskins, It's Joey Vado,
Speaker 4: It's Josh Bell, and it's CJ.
Speaker 3: Crohn.
Speaker 4: And if I miss out on you know the Matdilson's,
Speaker 4: which I'm very likely to do. Pete Alonzo, this is
Speaker 4: typically the group that I target and Reese Hoskins. For him,
Speaker 4: it's really just been health. But when he's played, especially
Speaker 4: last year, he was very good. He hit two forty
Speaker 4: seven lower batting average. But if you play in OBP
Speaker 4: or any type of points league, Hoskins excels in that format.
Speaker 4: He hit twenty seven homers in one hundred and seven games.
Speaker 4: That is a one hundred and fifty game pace of
Speaker 4: thirty seven homers ninety nine RBI. I just think that
Speaker 4: he provides a similar skill set to what you're asking
Speaker 4: Pete Alonzo or Matt Olsen to do, and you're getting
Speaker 4: him about sixty seventy picks later. So give me the
Speaker 4: profit pocket, give me Reeese Hoskins, Vodo Josh Bell.
Speaker 3: I think they're all undervalued right now.
Speaker 1: I would agree with Hoskins too. I think it's unfair.
Speaker 1: I think the negativities arounding him is lingered longer than
Speaker 1: it should have because last year was a pretty darn
Speaker 1: productive season for him. All right, let's go to another
Speaker 1: one for your list. Wells, who you.
Speaker 2: Got in the ever you know, crazy chase of closers
Speaker 2: that we're doing this year. I'm trying to help the
Speaker 2: Fantasy procr and if you draft early closers, just a hint,
Speaker 2: you're the ranker is probably gonna be me. That's gonna
Speaker 2: like it. I drafted closers early in ours and it
Speaker 2: was like, guess what the Welsh likesure draft. I'm like, oh, thanks, man,
Speaker 2: that's really cool. I'm trying to push those up because
Speaker 2: you got to get them. Especially if it's rodo head
Speaker 2: to head, You've got a little bit more wiggle room.
Speaker 2: There's so many question marks, and I'm not going to
Speaker 2: deny that there isn't a question mark with this guy
Speaker 2: simply because the team, but he performed well, and the
Speaker 2: closer I'm talking about I see at least and you
Speaker 2: can tell me if I'm wrong. Here a one thirty
Speaker 2: seven ECR right now of Jordan Romano with the Blue Jays,
Speaker 2: and the blue Jays are going to be primed and
Speaker 2: ready for wins, wins, wins, and that is what you want.
Speaker 2: You want closers with stability, you know, you want closers
Speaker 2: with great stuff, obviously, and you want closers on teams
Speaker 2: that are going to put him in save situations, so
Speaker 2: where people are paying up sickly for Mark Malanson with
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, where he might save ten by the time
Speaker 2: the trade deadline comes because the dim actually going to
Speaker 2: be atrocious. I guy like Jordan Romano is cheaper. He's
Speaker 2: not being drafted as a top five closer. He's more
Speaker 2: likely than not going to be outside the top one hundred.
Speaker 2: If you got a league that's, you know, pushing up closers,
Speaker 2: it might change. I've seen people take Diegos ahead of him.
Speaker 2: I think Romano is a super super value closer if
Speaker 2: you don't want to pay the high price, or if
Speaker 2: you do pay the high price atc Ario, Cohen's projection
Speaker 2: system hasn't projected at twenty eight saves five wins. You're
Speaker 2: looking at eleven and a half k per nine on
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the league, and they
Speaker 2: got pitchers that can take him deep. I like Jordan Romano.
Speaker 2: I think in a crazy closer market, he is a
Speaker 2: target and he's a bargain.
Speaker 1: Now we tease this earlier, Frank Stamfel, this is your
Speaker 1: opportunity to defend the honor of Willia doms And I
Speaker 1: am right behind you.
Speaker 2: I like him for I like him.
Speaker 1: Just no, you don't, No, you don't. Don't pretend him
Speaker 1: is your guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, adp on Willia Domas one thirty six point eight
Speaker 4: would not surprise me one bit if he he outperforms
Speaker 4: Carlos Correa, who's going fifty spots ahead of him right now.
Speaker 4: As a member of the Rays, Adamis hit two nineteen
Speaker 4: with a six twenty four OPS at home, and he
Speaker 4: spoke about how he couldn't see the ball in Tropicana
Speaker 4: Field and it really affected him. He hit two ninety
Speaker 4: one with an eight fifty eight ops everywhere else while
Speaker 4: he was a member of Tampa Bay. Then last year
Speaker 4: ninety nine games with the Brewers, he basically just picked
Speaker 4: up where he left off. When he was on the road,
Speaker 4: he hit two eighty five twenty homers, four steals in
Speaker 4: eight eighty six ops. And from the point that he
Speaker 4: joined the Brewers on May twenty second on, here's where
Speaker 4: he ranked among short stops seventh and batting average tied
Speaker 4: for third, and home runs fourth and ops. So maybe
Speaker 4: it's I'm just trusting a small sample sized thing. You know,
Speaker 4: it's right around one hundred games. But regardless, I like
Speaker 4: the ballpark. I like the lineup. They've lengthened it, They've
Speaker 4: added Andrew McCutcheon and just overall a lot of players
Speaker 4: there that I like. Colton Wong, Luis Arius, I like
Speaker 4: him there too, Christian Yellich if he can bounce back.
Speaker 3: So I'm buying the adjustments.
Speaker 4: How great he was with the Brewers all park line up,
Speaker 4: Give me Willia Damas and.
Speaker 2: Let me throw in this as well, with all the jokes.
Speaker 2: Aside Willia Domas, what could be a winning strategy is
Speaker 2: if you want to reach a little bit to ensure
Speaker 2: yourself to get Fernando Tatis Junior. Yeah no, you get
Speaker 2: William Domas, you get Dansby Swanson, or if you really
Speaker 2: screw up, you get Brandon Crawford. That's how you cover yourself.
Speaker 2: If you want to take Tatis earlier than the rest
Speaker 2: of your league mates, beware it might not happen, but
Speaker 2: they are the prime that's the prime guy to pair with.
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis took the words right out of my mouth,
Speaker 1: gotcha exactly. Once again, we're in lockstep. So now that
Speaker 1: Welsh went to go get his Willia Doms shinebox, you
Speaker 1: can come back and give us another player here, because
Speaker 1: I'm with Frank, Let's go Willia Doms all day.
Speaker 2: My number three actually talked about him last week going
Speaker 2: through it's really hard trying to find like your best
Speaker 2: best bargains. But I'm gonna just kind of come back
Speaker 2: to a guy that we talked about in last episode
Speaker 2: or with spor I'm sorry the Sport episode where you
Speaker 2: would say, like, who's the next Cedric Mullen and that's
Speaker 2: like a really big undertaking and task. But I had
Speaker 2: mentioned this guy from July to September had the six
Speaker 2: most hits in baseball during that period. I believe it
Speaker 2: was a six Sommers, seven stolen bases or seven and
Speaker 2: eight Amitrosario with the Guardians. I just think post two hundred,
Speaker 2: a guy that's got twenty stolen based potential, fifteen plus
Speaker 2: homer potential. He had a great end of the season
Speaker 2: as far as hits. He might be at the top
Speaker 2: of a lineup with guys hitting behind him like Jose
Speaker 2: Ramirez and franmil Reyis. I think he's a bargain and
Speaker 2: I think he's a target, especially when you're trying to
Speaker 2: play around with stolen bases, depending how you did earlier
Speaker 2: in draft. Guys like I almost put Andrew Benintendi on
Speaker 2: this list, but I kind of like Amitersari just like
Speaker 2: a notch higher position flexibility. You're probably gonna get short
Speaker 2: stop and outfield, and you know, I mean, bad things
Speaker 2: could happen. You might not get the great counting stats,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think worst case scenario, you're
Speaker 2: probably touching the twenty stolen bases power. That'll be a
Speaker 2: major question. But you know, people are paying like top
Speaker 2: one hundred almost for Miles Straw and I know he's
Speaker 2: elite stolen bases, but a metroso kind of covers you.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more of a five tool player.
Speaker 2: So post two hundred amedros Ario draft day bargain in
Speaker 2: my eyes, that's.
Speaker 1: Another good one. All right, Frank, back to you, who's
Speaker 1: number four on your list of draft day bargains.
Speaker 3: So I'm going with Lord Escuriel.
Speaker 4: He's got an ADP of one forty point two and
Speaker 4: he's been very inconsistent throughout the course of his career.
Speaker 3: Same thing. Last year. He got off to a slow start.
Speaker 4: First two months, he hit two forty nine just four
Speaker 4: homers six thirty two OPS.
Speaker 3: Turns out he was actually playing through a knee injury.
Speaker 4: From June on, he hit two ninety one seventeen homers
Speaker 4: in eight sixty seven OPS, hitting the ball much harder.
Speaker 4: He was doing a better job lifting the ball during
Speaker 4: that time. He makes a lot of contact. That was
Speaker 4: even better last year, right around a nineteen percent strikeout rate,
Speaker 4: and he showed his glimpses right So in.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty he was awesome.
Speaker 4: Shortened season three to zero eight batting average and eight
Speaker 4: eighty two OPS. And he's really the last opportunity to
Speaker 4: grab an everyday starting player in one of the best
Speaker 4: lineups in baseball with the Toronto Blue Jays, and I
Speaker 4: think he's going to hit right in the middle of
Speaker 4: that lineup.
Speaker 3: Lots of RBI opportunities.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe not a ton of power you're talking about,
Speaker 4: like twenty five to twenty eight homers, but if he
Speaker 4: does that and hits for the good batting average, the
Speaker 4: counting sets are going to be awesome as well. So
Speaker 4: Lord is Gurriel, I'm in at the ADP one forty
Speaker 4: point two.
Speaker 1: Good offensive ecosystems are important. It's important in football, it's
Speaker 1: important baseball. Toronto's one of them. Last year is the
Speaker 1: first year he got five hundred bats too, So like
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one games from Guriel, that's what
Speaker 1: you want to see again. If you can repeat that
Speaker 1: number of games you're looking at, I think another twenty
Speaker 1: home runs, eighty RBI and like you said, maybe there's
Speaker 1: room for even more, potentially two seventy six last year.
Speaker 1: If you can get closer to that three to zero
Speaker 1: eight number and twenty twenty man, what a value he
Speaker 1: would be in the one forty range right now on
Speaker 1: Fantasy pros. The Welsh number four on your list of
Speaker 1: draft Dave Bargains is a pitcher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a guy that I just seem to
Speaker 2: be targeting a whole lot, and he was kind of
Speaker 2: an anomial last year and it's John Gray who is
Speaker 2: with the Texas Rangers. Now, I like, I mean, what
Speaker 2: a difference of ballparks you're going to go through from
Speaker 2: Colorado to Texas. You've got a lot of offensive port,
Speaker 2: great defensive support, I think as well. And he's the
Speaker 2: anomaly because he was worse on the road than he
Speaker 2: was at home. He was able to maintain a four
Speaker 2: era in Colorado where he was five on the road.
Speaker 2: Really bad run support as well. That and I think
Speaker 2: you get him in Texas, you get him to be
Speaker 2: the lead dog. He was really keeping the home run
Speaker 2: ball down even in Colorado. I think he had a
Speaker 2: home run rate. What was it, It was, yeah, one
Speaker 2: point two seven per nine, which is solid. He was
Speaker 2: a little bit walk heavy, But I like the destination change.
Speaker 2: He's a number one starter, going to get more starts
Speaker 2: in there if they pick up some cheap wins. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about the division as well. Oakland is just going
Speaker 2: to be taking it out right. John Gray, I think
Speaker 2: is a bargain at almost two point fifty to round
Speaker 2: out your rotation.
Speaker 1: I got John Gray shares everywhere. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a great value because it doesn't cost you
Speaker 1: anything to find out. If he has a good April awesome,
Speaker 1: maybe you found a gym here and he's been able
Speaker 1: to turn things around at very least be an Inning
Speaker 1: Zeter kind of guy for you. And if he's terrible,
Speaker 1: you caught him in April and you move on to the.
Speaker 2: Prospect pitch, go get like Nicolo Dolo or Hunter Green.
Speaker 2: If he didn't get drafted, those guys are probably gonna
Speaker 2: break camp.
Speaker 1: So exactly exactly, and that great point too, about as
Speaker 1: Oakland is starting to Jennison players. Also, all right, back
Speaker 1: to you, Frank, give me the last get on your
Speaker 1: list of draft day bargains.
Speaker 3: All Right'm gonna save the best for last.
Speaker 4: My favorite breakout candidate this entire fantasy baseball season it
Speaker 4: is Patrick Sandoval, who was inserted into the Angels rotation
Speaker 4: on May seventeenth last year. He made fourteen starts during
Speaker 4: that time, three point three to nine ERA one, pin
Speaker 4: one eight, with eighty six strikeouts over seventy nine and
Speaker 4: two thirds endings pitched. His fifteen point three percent swinging
Speaker 4: strike rate in those fourteen starts second best in baseball
Speaker 4: behind only Corbyn Burns. So the swing and missus filthy,
Speaker 4: and a lot of it has to do with this
Speaker 4: changeup that he has. It posted a one thirty nine
Speaker 4: batting average against with a near twenty nine percent swinging
Speaker 4: strike rate on that change up alone. So he's got
Speaker 4: to work on the fastball compan and he struggles a
Speaker 4: little bit with Walks. Slider is a serviceable pitch. I
Speaker 4: think the repertoire is there. He's coming off of a
Speaker 4: stress reaction in his back, so there are some question marks.
Speaker 4: Is the reason why he's going outside the top two
Speaker 4: hundred picks. But if he could stay healthy put everything together.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's legit like top twenty starting
Speaker 4: pitcher upside here for Patrick Sandoval.
Speaker 1: I love when we bring in an analyst and they
Speaker 1: all say the same thing. So we had Fast and
Speaker 1: Pollock on a couple weeks ago they were talking about Sandival.
Speaker 1: We've got Paul spor on last week talking about Sandaval,
Speaker 1: and now Frank Stanfaal talking about Sandoval. So Welsh, do
Speaker 1: you like Sandoval too?
Speaker 2: I just sure, why not?
Speaker 1: Let's go all all in, everybody, all of us, We're
Speaker 1: gonna all held hands with the Patrick Sandoval. But look,
Speaker 1: if they can get thirty stars out of him and
Speaker 1: Tani's very good again, and maybe Cinderguard bounces back, maybe
Speaker 1: just maybe finally get some of those Angels guys finally
Speaker 1: finally into the playoffs. That'd be nice. All right, Welsh,
Speaker 1: give us your last guy on your list.
Speaker 2: Let's turn this hat around. Let's get serious here for
Speaker 2: a minute. Let's turn this around on baseballs. I'm going
Speaker 2: with a rookie at two eighty nine on the ECR,
Speaker 2: a guy that I think legitimately can break up with
Speaker 2: their team. And it's not Bobby Witt Junior. It is
Speaker 2: Spencer Torklsen. Spencer Torklsen, whom Miguel Cabrera was just asking
Speaker 2: camp the other day about playing first base and he
Speaker 2: was just like, I don't know. He's like, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I will play DH because I want Torkosen in the lineup.
Speaker 2: You hear Miguel Cabrera is say, I want Torklsen in
Speaker 2: the lineup. Now, add incentives to baseball for a guy
Speaker 2: to break camp on the opening day roster, to get
Speaker 2: extra picks if they finish in the top two of
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. And guess what's really interesting. Bobby
Speaker 2: Witt and Spencer Torklsen sure would seem like likely candidates
Speaker 2: to finish one and two if they do. Though I
Speaker 2: do think Riley Green is a guy who was just
Speaker 2: as worthy of breaking camp. Torklsen is like, he's not
Speaker 2: a big, crazy strikeout guy. He didn't do it in
Speaker 2: the miners last year. He was sub twenty five percent,
Speaker 2: which you want. He could walk. He's had some struggles
Speaker 2: with like low end breaking pitches kind of since he
Speaker 2: was at ASU. It was the first time I saw
Speaker 2: him at ASU versus Nick Nonzales just before the pandemic hit.
Speaker 2: But tork has got in sane rob power, insane thirty
Speaker 2: thirty five plus home run power. You don't know what
Speaker 2: the adjustments are going to look like. They could be
Speaker 2: a little bit wonky, but they got Candelario that can
Speaker 2: play third. Torkalsen it was playing third, but he's a
Speaker 2: Natural's a gold glove natural third, first basement. He can
Speaker 2: play that spot, and you might be throwing him in
Speaker 2: at five or six in the Tigers lineup early on
Speaker 2: to break camp. So I think when you talk about speculation,
Speaker 2: what better thing to do than to speculate on Torque
Speaker 2: at this point, this late in the draft, even though
Speaker 2: rookies can be a little bit dicey. That's like a
Speaker 2: pros pro type of guy. Like, this guy is ready.
Speaker 2: He is bat ready with a position that's there, with
Speaker 2: a decent amount of support at least leadership that's around him.
Speaker 2: So I like speculating on Torkalsen on the back end
Speaker 2: of drafts. Why not?
Speaker 1: I agree? So the names on Welsh's list Eloja Menez,
Speaker 1: Jordan Romano, A mod Rosario, John Gray, Spencer Torkolsen, on
Speaker 1: Frank's list, Charlie Morton, Reese Hoskins, Willia Doms, Lauras Guriel
Speaker 1: and Patrick Sandoval. Great stuff, guys. As ways, you could
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Speaker 1: of your time today.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to spring training game on Thursday. By
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Speaker 1: and frank Stanfel, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time. Kids,