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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what you're right about with winning,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, FP. I'm gonna put this one up super

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Speaker 1: That's not blunt. Michael Kopek is the probably sign him now.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, f P, this is one. This one's

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Speaker 1: If the Giants go five hunder once again in twenty

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Speaker 2: He's going to have some bumps. He's acknowledged as much.

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Speaker 2: all pointed out and obviously is that bullpen usage is

432
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Speaker 2: so much different in the big leagues from the college ranks, clearly,

433
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Speaker 2: but he is going to have an experienced bench coach.

434
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Speaker 2: He's going to have an experienced pitching coach, assistant bullpen coach.

435
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: This is I think this is not going to be

436
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Speaker 2: like a huge stumbling block for him, so but it's

437
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. You know. I will be on

438
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Speaker 2: him closely all year for one hundred percent.

439
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Speaker 1: When I managed the San Jose Giants and for a

440
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Speaker 1: three hundred people. I think I've mentioned this on the

441
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: podcast before. It moved so fast for me. I'm coaching

442
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: third base. I'm thinking about who's going to get up

443
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: in the bullpen. I'm thinking about who I'm going to

444
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: pinch hit for. I'm giving signs there's runners on second

445
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: and third. I'm checking the outfield. I'm trying to remember

446
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: the arm strengths of everybody to score the time of game,

447
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: and that's able in front of three hundred fans in

448
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: San Jose and it moves so fast. For me, I

449
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: was overwhelmed. I thought, I always want to be a

450
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Speaker 1: big league manager, That's what I want to do when

451
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: I retired, And it just it was wild. So I

452
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: can't imagine front of forty thousand people on the corner

453
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Speaker 1: of third and King, when every move you make is

454
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Speaker 1: scrutinized on social media, you're on TV every single day.

455
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Speaker 1: How fast it's going to move for him? But I

456
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Speaker 1: think he's going to adapt quickly.

457
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Speaker 2: Well, it's even faster now. Fans love to criticize bullpend decisions,

458
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: love it. It's so much hindsight, which always kind of you know,

459
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Speaker 2: no matter who the manager is or what the situation.

460
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, yeah, it's easy for you to say

461
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: this now because it didn't work out, But you can

462
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Speaker 2: go through all the reasons a manager makes a move.

463
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Speaker 2: But not only is it what you're saying. The game

464
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: is so fast when you're making the decisions, and things

465
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: can spiral quickly. But the game is faster now than

466
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: it was for a long time. With the pitch clock

467
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: and with a few other things. Bullpen usage is also

468
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: a little more tricky with the three batter rule, like

469
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: there are reasons where why sometimes when it seems like, oh,

470
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: maybe he didn't get a guy up early enough, or

471
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Speaker 2: why didn't he make this move sooner? Sometimes it's simply

472
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: things that fans don't know about, but we kind of

473
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: get tips on before the game. So and so has

474
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: a thing and he's just down for a day, or

475
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: he's pitched three games in a row. He's not available.

476
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: You know, that might be obvious to some fans, but

477
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: not to everybody. And as much as anything, sometimes it's

478
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: just things can spiral out of control so fast with

479
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: a reliever who's having a rough day. Ryan Walker comes

480
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: to mind. There are a few outings last year where

481
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Speaker 2: it was just within a span of a few pitch

482
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: the game completely changed. In the fans immediator, Why well,

483
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: why didn't they get someone else in there sooner? There

484
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: wasn't time. You got to get somebody up, and you're

485
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: not going to get somebody up at the start of

486
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: the ninth when it's your closer out there. That's just

487
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: not how things are done. It indicates you have no

488
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: confidence whatsoever in your closer. I spoke to Ryan this week.

489
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Speaker 2: He was at FanFest in San Jose, and so I

490
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: kind of reached out to kind of follow up on

491
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Speaker 2: some of the things that we had talked about with

492
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Speaker 2: Vitello on Saturday, and he I've got a story that's

493
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: going to be up on the chronicle if it's not

494
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: very soon, if it's not up now, He's very determined

495
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: to win back his closer job. By the way, So

496
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Speaker 2: that's a that's a topic for a future I've kind

497
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Speaker 2: of rambled here. I'm so sorry. We hope to get

498
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Speaker 2: some more questions.

499
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Speaker 1: Well, I want to I want to just address something

500
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Speaker 1: real quick that was mentioned on Cambre. In an interview

501
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Speaker 1: with Tony yesterday, my name was mentioned said that I

502
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Speaker 1: hope the Giants are the most hated team in baseball.

503
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Speaker 1: I did say that, but in the context of I

504
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: hope they come out they play hard, they're scrappy, they

505
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: play the game the right way. They're not out there

506
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: to make friends. If they have a little bit of

507
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: swag or so be it. And if teams don't like that, fine,

508
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: and if they're the most hated team in baseball, that's fine.

509
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Speaker 1: But I just didn't throw it out there like I

510
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: hope the Giants of the most hated team in baseball,

511
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: and that's the way it was presented in an interview

512
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Speaker 1: to him yesterday, and there was some context to that.

513
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Speaker 2: I just want kind of rambling at this point, but yes,

514
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: you're right, that was on our last part, right, And

515
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Speaker 2: I mentioned when you said that, I mentioned Buster has

516
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: been clear he's not on board with a like everybody

517
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Speaker 2: hug before the game, like hang with your buds during

518
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: batting practice on the other team. He doesn't want to

519
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: see any of that. I think if Buster had heard that,

520
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: he would have been like, yeah, Pepe, you want to

521
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Speaker 2: be the most hated team, Like, there's nothing wrong with that.

522
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Speaker 2: You want to have your game face on long before

523
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Speaker 2: the game starts. So and neither of us have a

524
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Speaker 2: problem with that. So I don't know if that was

525
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Speaker 2: necessarily taken out of context, because I think it's a

526
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Speaker 2: good thing. All right, to another question, f P. This

527
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 2: is a mailbag, all right, bad Here you go some

528
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: of the minor moves that people wind up asking about.

529
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Speaker 2: But the overall question here, I think is a good one.

530
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Speaker 2: You go for it.

531
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Speaker 1: I'd argue their defense has gotten worse in the outfield

532
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Speaker 1: with a loss of two in the mid season trade

533
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Speaker 1: of yeahes. How do they address that issue just training

534
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: with new coaches or do they have a bigger plan

535
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: hopefully talking about the outfield defense, we've talked about it

536
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: a lot on the show, Susan, I'll let you take it. Yeah.

537
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Speaker 2: I think that's one of their biggest concerns. I know

538
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: there's some sentiment out there they need another starter, so

539
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: they can use another starter. It was sentiment that they

540
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: could use some earliers absolutely second base. To me, the

541
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Speaker 2: biggest need, and I've said this, I think you're all

542
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: sick of it. I'm sure I'm sick of saying it.

543
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: They need an extremely good defensive outfielder who can also

544
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: contribute offensively. If it's Drew Gilbert, fantastic, I would love that.

545
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Speaker 2: I think we'd all love that. We know Tony Vaitello

546
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: would love that. But to me, they need to go

547
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: out and add somebody I mentioned I've been banging the

548
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: drum on Bellinger for a long time. The guy that's

549
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: still left out there, who's available as Harrison Bader. Otherwise

550
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: he make a trade. Luis Robert gets traded finally from

551
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: the White Sox the other day. He would have been

552
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: a nice fit, but Obviously that didn't wind up being

553
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: a Giant's move. But I think this is there with

554
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: that outfield at Oracle and with the idea that this

555
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: is a team that will win with pitching in defense,

556
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Speaker 2: and I believe that's the case. I think this could

557
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: be a very good team if they go with that.

558
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: But you can't have the worst outfield defense and the Majors.

559
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: I know Oracle skews the numbers at one hundred percent does,

560
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 2: but that was not a good outfield defense, even if

561
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: you just look at the road splits. That was not

562
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: inadequate outfield defense last year. So fair question that. I

563
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: think they still need to go out and add somebody

564
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: to nail down an excellent outfield defense. And if you're

565
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: gonna you could do that right now with true but

566
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: if you have to get an established big league hitter.

567
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Speaker 2: In my mind, FP.

568
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Speaker 1: I like Jacob Young from the Nationals, and the Nationals

569
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Speaker 1: are trading everybody right now, so Mackenzie goreg got traded yesterday.

570
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: If you've ever watched Jacob Young play for Giants fans

571
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: that haven't, he really goes and gets him in center field.

572
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: He might be one of the best defenders going right

573
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: now I do like Harrison Vader too, and maybe not

574
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: as everyday guys, but like you know, if you have

575
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: a three run lead in the seventh inn, you put

576
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Speaker 1: your best defense out there and defensive replacements platoon against

577
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: lefties guys that get two hundred fifty three and fifty

578
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: at bats as bench guys that the lads some energy

579
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to the line up. It had some defense. But yeah,

580
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: A big fan of Jacob Young. I think he can

581
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Speaker 1: really go. Get him all right, you get another question,

582
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: how are we going on that?

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of an interesting one. I hadn't

584
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: really given this one much thought, so I'm actually curious

585
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: what you think with We've got a nice little Tristan back.

586
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Like the whole bullpen is a question at this point,

587
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: so I think this is an interesting little twist on

588
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: the bullpen question.

589
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: Kirk and Kype have said they believe Tristan Beck could

590
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: be a starter, but he hasn't advocated for himself, leading

591
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: to the Giants relegating him to the bullpen. Do you

592
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: think there's an opportunity for him to become a starter.

593
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I absolutely do, whether it's with the Giants or some

594
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: other team, I think he's got starter stuff starter's mentality.

595
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: He does have a bullpen mentality. I'm probably not really

596
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: qualified to answer this question in an appropriate manner because

597
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players on the team. He's

598
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: just a wonderful human being. We've talked about a lot,

599
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: probably closest to him of any of the players on

600
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Speaker 1: the team. I just think he's a wonderful person. Yeah,

601
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: he could be a starter for a lot of teams.

602
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: He could be a starter for the Giants. I don't

603
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: think it's advocating for yourself. I think as a young player,

604
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: you just take whatever role is given to you, and

605
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: you just put that hat on and say, I'm going

606
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: to be the best at this on this day, and

607
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: if that opportunity presents itself, then you go with it.

608
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: But if you remember a few spring trains, a Goo Susan,

609
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: he was all the talk in camp. I mean, he

610
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: looked the part. I had never seen him pitch before.

611
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's a stud. But yeah, he's he's

612
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: been relegated. I don't I don't like to use relegated

613
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: to the bullpen because as we know, that's that's probably

614
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: that's probably just as important, even more important as starting

615
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: pitching nowadays.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm biased when it comes to Tristan too.

617
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: He's fantastic. He's a Stanford guy, He's very smart, he's

618
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: he's might be the Giant's best asset in terms of

619
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Speaker 2: community relations. He is heavily involved in all their outreach.

620
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: It's wonderful. At the San Jose FanFest last way, it's

621
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Speaker 2: a joy to watch him interact with fans.

622
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Speaker 1: He was.

623
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Speaker 2: I was watching him at the There was a photo

624
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: station and people were lined up waiting to come in,

625
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: like sort of little groups at a time to get

626
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: their photos taken with Tristan, and he was greeting them

627
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: like they were all his long lost best friends. He

628
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: was like, you gonna be a big hug, and oh

629
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Speaker 2: my gosh, it was it was it was really He's

630
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: he's so phenomenal. So yeah, I think we would all

631
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: like to have him, see him have a regularle But

632
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: he's also dealt with so many injuries, including that aneurysm

633
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: that required surgery, and I think that has like I'm

634
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: not I'm not sure what we know, how they view

635
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: him or what sort of role he might because of that,

636
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: because he's had some interruptions here, so.

637
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: I think Susan disappeared for a second. She'll probably try

638
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: to get herself back on here and I'll vamp for

639
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: a second. Susan got detained at customs for a second.

640
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: Too many buttons here, man, Yeah, let's finish with a

641
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: fun one. This is one for all the you know,

642
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: sort of like none of your really haters, but semi

643
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: haters like we get the like you guys are homer stuff, right,

644
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: which I would argue, I'm a beat writer, objective and

645
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Speaker 2: I don't care he's a homer. So here's one for you.

646
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Speaker 1: Amy, a broadcaster that criticizes his team on a daily

647
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: basis that keeps his job. I'll just leave it at that.

648
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Uh Am. I crazy for thinking this roster has potential

649
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: to help them make the playoffs like they did in

650
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Go first, Susan.

651
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think that if you look at this purely

652
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: objectively as a reporter, would you can go? They finished

653
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: two games out last year. Devers wasn't there the whole season.

654
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: He was still getting comfortable. Adamas was dreadful for two months.

655
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: He will be better. He's you know, it was brand

656
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: new to the team. It can sometimes take guys that

657
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: sign big deals a while to really feel comfortable, and

658
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: clearly that was the case with him. You could almost

659
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: say that having them for full season the way they

660
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: normally play and Chapman healthy, the offense was so miss

661
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: not as many hits as missus. Really it was not

662
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: a reliable offense a lot of the year. I think

663
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: this year it will be better. You can even throw

664
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Bailey in there. If he continues doing what he

665
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: did in the second half last year, they should score

666
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: more runs. Still concerned about that outfield defense, and I

667
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: think that could continue to be an issue. So I'm

668
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: not going to bang that drug too much. And I'd

669
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: like to see a little more starting pitching. Sure, but

670
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: if you missed her by two games and you improve

671
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: your roster a little bit or have guys who will

672
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: improve from last year, yeah maybe.

673
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Speaker 1: Just you know you've been around teams. Baseball is a

674
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: funny sport, like you just never know what's going to

675
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: happen during the season. I know Giants fans are really

676
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: pestimistic right now based on what's happened in the offseason

677
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: or what hasn't happened in the off season. But I'm

678
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: the internal optimist and I am a homer man, I'm

679
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: a Giant, so I always think to have a chance,

680
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see how this whole thing goes. You start

681
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: to play well, you get that confidence going in the clubhouse,

682
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: you start to play music and get the fogger going.

683
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Every single night, all of a sudden, great things are

684
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: happening that you didn't expect to happen. That's the beauty

685
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: of the game. And I think maybe the hope has

686
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: been kind of drained a little bit based on a

687
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: lot of teams spending a lot of money and the

688
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Giants haven't made a lot of moves this offseason. But

689
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always go into a season thinking

690
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: my team has a chance. Even I was in Montreal

691
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: and we didn't have great teams. You look around camp

692
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: and you start to see guys you're like, well, you

693
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: know who knows And we were picked to finish last

694
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: one year and we were eliminated from the wild card

695
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: I think in nineteen ninety six on the last day

696
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: of the season. So you just don't know what's going

697
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: to happen.

698
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: I always try to remember FP that, especially when you're

699
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: going with either comments online on any social media forum

700
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: or callers in say to a radio show, these things

701
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: run toward the negative, right, People don't go like I

702
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: am happy with everything. I think everything's great. Let me

703
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: call in a show, let me throw in a comment.

704
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: It's people you know who have either. It just it

705
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: tends to be a little more complain me. I mean

706
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: that's just the nature of sort of online comments and

707
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: radio talks. So and no offense to everybody, I think everybody.

708
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: It shows how much fans care and they should. But

709
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: the beauty of a new baseball season, spring training opening day,

710
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: that is an optimistic time. And I feel like even

711
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: if you've got a team that's finished at the bottom

712
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: years in a row, that it's that's you should still

713
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: have optimism. You never this is the point where you

714
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: still don't know. There could be some new guys that

715
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: you really love or take a shine to. They could

716
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: get hot. Who knows. I love this time of year

717
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: because it's all it's all sort of positive and fun.

718
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're going. Nobody knows, like.

719
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: Right not right now, giants. If you if you read

720
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: the comments, uh, I always found it funny that when

721
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I do the postgame show on cambr if the Giants win,

722
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: the phones are dead, and when they lose, I get

723
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: tons of calls.

724
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: That's just kind of how it's a spirit when things

725
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: aren't going well.

726
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's a good mail bag. I like

727
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: doing the mail bags. That was fun today. So if

728
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, you have a show here that

729
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: has a reporter that's in the clubhouse every single day,

730
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: that travels with the team. You have a show here

731
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: with a member of the broadcast team that actually played

732
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: for the Giants, And I'll give you a little bit

733
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: of insight, especially once the season starts, I'll start breaking

734
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: stuff down. I'll tell you why things happen. So this

735
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: isn't a podcast or a show where we're gonna have

736
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: hot takes. So if you guys, just tell your friends

737
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: about it. We're trying to grow this big time. It's

738
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: not about liking and subscribing. It's about a podcast that's

739
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: not gonna scream and yell at you, that's not gonna

740
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: have hot takes. It's just going to be sensible and

741
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: try to explain to you why things are happening or

742
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: give you different perspective based on we're boots on the ground, man,

743
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: We're there every single day. We're not just like flipping

744
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: a switch in our living room or our basement with

745
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: hot takes like this is good right now. It's gonna

746
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: get way better and it's gonna be great during the season.

747
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: So we'd love for you guys to check us out.

748
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you are, so you really are a positive presence. Yeah,

749
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: and it's such a good I don't know, walking advertisement

750
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: for this.

751
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: For this well anyways, And sometimes I say really stupid

752
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: things on here that when we shut this down.

753
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Really the reason to listen.

754
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: Why did I say that? When you when you're on

755
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: like KMBR and you say something stupid, you come back

756
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: from a commercial break and say, well, what I meant

757
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: by that is because you think about it for a second.

758
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: And on here it's just like clipped and put on

759
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: the internet and it's forever. So you got to be careful.

760
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: But we're having fun.

761
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Well, don't be careful, FP. That's that's the good stuff.

762
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm not losing my job over I'm not losing my

763
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: job over there for this. I'll tell you that right now.

764
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: That's never going to be the case. Susan, thanks so

765
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: much for joining us today. That was fun. I love

766
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: doing the mail bag. You're always so great at this

767
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's always a pleasure to talk to you and

768
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: see you.

769
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: Thanks FP, until next time.

770
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Until next time. All right, it's time to sign off, folks.

771
00:37:49,320 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: Swing hard in case you hit it on Splash Hit Territory.

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Speaker 1: The first