1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 2: It is a verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: with you, and I hope you had a fabulous fourth 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: of July. And it was a interesting fourth of July 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: at the White House. Now the White House saying that 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: the President did see a doctor days after the debate, 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: and they're also saying we ain't dropping out at least 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: as of now. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: Well, let me first of all say, for the fourth 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: of July, Happy birthday America. What an incredible country we 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: live in. What an extraordinary nation. I think, the most 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: consequential nation in the history of the world. I think 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: we were built with God's blessing, with divine providence. I 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: think America has been a force for good, for freedom, 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: for liberation, for peace, the greatest force for liberation, peace 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: and justice on the face of the earth. And so 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: July fourth is a great time to celebrate our nation, 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: to hug your children, to eat hot dogs and hamburgers 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: and backyard barberue, thank you, and play with your kids 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: and lovely. So that's number one. I hope your fourth 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: was fantastic. But number two, politics continues to roll on, 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: and in particular we're in day eight now of debate 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: mcgeddon the aftermath of the most consequential presidential debate in 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: American history eight days ago, the night of the debate, 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Ben and I did a special podcast that evening. That evening, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: we discussed how the disastrous performance from Joe Biden demonstrated 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: to the world this man is not fit to be 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: commander in chief. For many people, that raised the question 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: whether he was fit to tie his own shoes or 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: to drive an automobile. My prediction then, and that's what 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: I said the night of the debate, I think the 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: odds have risen to eighty percent that the Democrats will 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: pull Joe Biden off the ticket, They will abandon him 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 3: as their candidate, and they will place him with Michelle Obama. 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: This is something that I had predicted nine months ago. 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: Nine months ago, I said it was a possibility, it 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: was a real possibility. I now think the odds are 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: greater than eighty percent. And I also made another prediction 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: on Thursday night. I said I thought it was likely 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: to happen within the next twenty one days. We are 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: on day eight today. That means we have thirteen more 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: days within the window of when they are likely to 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: do it. And I think We're seeing every day growing 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: momentum as more and more Democrats are jumping ship and 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: saying we got to do something different. 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the excuses are getting truly incredible. We're going 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: to play one of them in just a moment that 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: deals with jet lag as the new excuse about why 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: he had a bad debate night. 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I mentioned a moment ago 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: that this White House is floundering on a level I 79 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: didn't even know was imaginable in their response to this debate. 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: And every time you think they can't get any worse, 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: they then do something that is even more incompetent in 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: the response. 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: I want to play for you Center. This. 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: This is the White House Press secretary floating the idea 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: that the reason why Joe Biden had a bad night 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: the other night is that he was suffering from jet 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: lag almost two two weeks, fourteen days after traveling. Here 88 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: is the White House Press secretary trying to sell this 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: to the American people. 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. There's no question that international travel can 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: be rigorous. I think the confusion is that he's still 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: suffering from the effects of that nearly two weeks later. 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: So he articulated a little bit about like, do you 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: guys usually have accommodations for him after he does a trip, 95 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: that he's going to have jetlag for that long a 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: period of time. 97 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: So can you can you when you say two weeks later, 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: what do you mean the debate? 99 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: days before the debate, So his explanation for a for 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: debate performance is jetlag. 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: So what I want to say is it's the jet 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 5: lag and also the cold, Right. It is the two things, 104 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 5: and that occurred, and you all heard it in his 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: voice when he did the debate, right, And it is 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: not even something that we shared ahead of time. You 107 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 5: heard it in his voice and we confirmed it, and 108 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 5: I think that's important to note as well, like it 109 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: is the jet lag and the cold. But I want 110 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: to be really I want to be really clear here. 111 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 5: This is not an excuse, right, This is not an excuse. 112 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're 113 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: giving it an explanation. It is not an excuse. I 114 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: don't want that to be the leading piece of this 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 5: ask for the only reason we're sharing this because it 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 5: was asked of me here and the President certainly wanted 117 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: to give an explanation himself, and that's what he did yesterday. 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: We want to We understand that it wasn't his best night. 119 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: It wasn't a great debate. We understand that, and we 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: understand what supporters saw, what the American people saw, and 121 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: what you all saw, and so we wanted to give 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 5: an explanation. So I don't want to get into this 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: or are you giving this excuse? Not an excuse, We're 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: giving you what our explanation was. We want to continue 125 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 5: to make sure that we do everything that we can 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: to deliver for the American people. That's what we're going 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 5: to continue to want it. 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean Senator, you hear this, we're just you ask. 129 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: So we're just telling you fourteen days after international travel, 130 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: the president was suffering from jetwag. 131 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: So there's the story. 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 6: You know. 133 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: I got to say every time I hear kareein John Pierre, 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: I think she is the opposite of William Jefferson Clinton. 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: William Jefferson Clinton, you'll recall, was referred to as an 136 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: unusually good liar that he could lie and it was believable, 137 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: and he'd bite his lip and he'd you know, pointed, 138 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 3: pushes thumb together, and you just you believed he felt 139 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: your pain. He could lie better than anyone. I think 140 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: Kareem John Pierre is an unusually bad liar. Like when 141 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: she does it, it's laughably false. One of the things 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: if you're going to be in a job as a 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: media hack and trying to spend people, typically you learn 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: not to tell just brazen lies that are absurd. When 145 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: Kareean John Pierre stood in the White House Press briefing 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: room and said, you know, people are not just coming 147 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: across the border. It's not happening. They're not walking across 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 3: the border, it doesn't happen. That was such a wild 149 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: lie literally every reporter could pull up on their phone 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: videos of it happening while she was talking. That's a 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: bad lie here. This jetlag thing is a really bad lie. 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Like anyone who's actually flown internationally. Look, jetlag is a 153 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: sith thing. It's a reasonable thing. You feel it a 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: day maybe two when you fly from one place to 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: the other. You know, he was in Europe. He was 156 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: there for Normandy. I was there for Normandy. I got 157 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: to say the idea that I'd be complaining now you 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: know I've still got jetlag because several weeks ago I 159 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: was in Europe. That's just obviously stupid. And they don't 160 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: want the explanation to be the explanation that every person 161 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: with eyeballs and common sense saw, which is this is 162 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: an old man who's suffering from dementia. That's the answer. 163 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: And so well, you know he wasn't a plane a 164 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: few weeks earlier. Let's call it jetlag. Yeah, yeah, maybe 165 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: people out there are dumb enough to believe that. 166 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: Well, and they went on TV like a full court 167 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: press to try to sell this at the White House. 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: This was another one of their interviews outside of Jean Pierre, 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: where they're like all right, guys, everybody got on TV 170 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: and sell that the president is jet lagged. 171 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 7: Apparently, the President apologized to everyone in the room saying, 172 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 7: this is not an excuse, but it is an explanation, 173 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 7: and he blamed the extensive foreign travel that he did 174 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 7: in the lead up to the CNN debate for his 175 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 7: poor performance. Just a reminder for everyone. He did go 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 7: to France for the D Day anniversary, and then he 177 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 7: turned right back around and went to Italy for the 178 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 7: G seven summit. And he told the room, I didn't 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 7: listen to my staff, so the suggestion there being his 180 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 7: staff did not think this was a good idea. And 181 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 7: then he apparently said I almost fell asleep on stage. 182 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: I just want to unpack this. 183 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 7: New explanation for a second as the explanation for why 184 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 7: his debate performance was so bad. I find it a 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 7: little bit puzzling, and frankly, I'm not sure that a 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 7: lot of people are going to find this reassuring. If anything, 187 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 7: some folks might hear this and be even more concerned. Yes, 188 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 7: there were two foreign trips in the lead up to 189 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 7: the June twenty seventh CNN debate, but he returned from 190 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 7: Italy on June fifteenth. The debate again was on June 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 7: twenty seven, so we're talking about roughly twelve days in 192 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 7: between when he was back in the States. And remember 193 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: a part of those twelve days, about a full week, 194 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 7: he actually spent with his advisors at Camp David for 195 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 7: the sole purpose of really focusing on debate preps. So 196 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 7: why is the president falling asleep on the debate stage 197 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 7: at the hours of nine pm to ten thirty? 198 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe by the way that CNN saying that 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: they have all turned on him, like they have just 200 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: completely turned on him. With Mjlee, they're saying, I find 201 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: it a little bit puzzling that this guy's at Camp 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: David for a whole week and you've done debate preps. 203 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: So let's pull back the curtain on that. When you've 204 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: done your most vigorous debate prep, Senator, and I've been 205 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: blessed to be in several different debate preps for different 206 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: major races, it doesn't last twelve hours a day, are 207 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: the ones I've done. Certainly not for seven days straight. 208 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: It's usually two or three hours of intense debate prep 209 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: and then you take a legit break. 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 211 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: Look, and I've never done a week of debate prep. 212 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: Typically what I do debate prep, it is one to 213 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: two days. Is what's involved. 214 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 8: You know. 215 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: The irony of the of their jet lag explanation is 216 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: the fact that we know he spent a week at 217 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: Camp David where the only thing on the plate was 218 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: getting ready for debate prep. And I am certain he 219 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 3: slept a lot of hours that week, and listen, he 220 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: should one of the things I do for debate prep. 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: You know, you know there are studies that have been done. 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: This is something when I was arguing cases at the 223 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, I looked at there were medical studies that 224 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: are done that show the more sleep you get, the 225 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: faster your brain thinks, the faster your neurons fire. Before 226 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: a Supreme Court argument, I used to the night before 227 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: try to get nine to ten hours sleep, which is 228 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: a lot more sleep. I typically get six to seven 229 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: hours sleep a night. Before a Supreme Court argument, I 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: would try to get nine to ten hours sleep a night, 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: and I'd do that both the night before the argument, 232 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: and I'd do that two nights before the argument. 233 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 8: The reason two nights before the argument. 234 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: Years ago in college, I used to teach at Princeton 235 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: Review the test prep class that helped students. I taught 236 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: the SAT and I taught the l SAT, and when 237 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: I was teaching at Princeton Review, we would teach teach 238 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: students to do the same thing. Get a ton of 239 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: sleep the night before your exam, and get a ton 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: of sleep two nights before your exam, because there's scientific 241 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: studies that show the sleep you get two nights before 242 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: an event affects your brain speed. And what I found 243 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: in Supreme Court arguments is that if I had two 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: nights of supercharging sleep, nine to ten hours of sleep, 245 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: two nights in a row, that when I'd stand up 246 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: there for the argument at the podium, my brain was 247 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: a half second faster, a half second quicker to respond 248 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: to a question, to think about a line of argument, 249 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 3: to anticipate where the other side was going, to anticipate 250 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: where a justice was going. When I prepare for political debates, 251 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: I do the same thing. I try to have two 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: nights of nine to ten hours sleep the two nights before, 253 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: and it makes a real difference. Your brain is fast 254 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: and quick. Biden had an entire week where he could sleep. 255 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: He could have slept twelve hours a day every day 256 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: for a week, and so the idea that they're saying, well, yeah, 257 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: but two weeks earlier, he was on a plane, so 258 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: it's jetlag. 259 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 8: Nobody who's ever flown an airplane believes that. 260 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: There's also this big interview that's about to take place, 261 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: and it's become actually even bigger since when you and 262 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: I mentioned it. There is George Stepanopolis, and I think 263 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: we should remind people who he is. He is a 264 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: hardcore lefty that acts like he's now some sort of journalist, 265 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: even though he was best known for defending Bill Clinton 266 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: and giving Bill Clinton some of the best spin lines 267 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: in history. 268 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: It's the friendliest person I look. 269 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: He was basically Kareem John Pierre for Bill Clinton. Yeah, 270 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: he was a press staffer, staffer. He was in the 271 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: White House. He was on the Clinton White House staff. 272 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: I think his title is communications director. So he wasn't 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: actually the press secretary, but he was the press flack. 274 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: He was the person, he was the Jensaki. He was 275 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: the one who was in charge of communications for Bill 276 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: Clinton for years. He was very close to Bill Clinton. 277 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: And then he jumped over, as many dem communication hacks do, 278 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: they leave that role and they jump over and they 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: become like Jensaki, they get their own show. Well, George 280 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: Stephanopoulos went from being the official spokesperson for the Democratic 281 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: president to being at abs ABC acting as effectively the 282 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: official spokesperson for the Democrat president. 283 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: And he's the guy that's going to get this interview. 284 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: We now have word that they've decided to change this 285 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: interview to a quote prime time special on Friday night 286 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: to save in essence. I think his presidency and Democrats 287 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: aren't even buying that. MSNBC and one of the hardcore 288 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: lefties out there, Debbie Dingle, she said this on MSNBC 289 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: on July fourth. 290 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 9: They've been after Joe Biden all week. So he's got 291 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 9: one thing to do, which is to get up and 292 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 9: go out to prove to people that he can do 293 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 9: the job. 294 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 5: We'll do the job, and. 295 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 9: Has the stamina. Took too long to make some of 296 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 9: the phone calls he showed up. I think he's in 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 9: a bubble wrap. I'm men Seamen's dad, and I think 298 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 9: he's starting to do what he has to do. One 299 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 9: interview tomorrow, he's not going to fix this. 300 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: One interview tomorrow is quote not going to fix this. 301 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 2: This is one of the most extreme lefties on MSNBC 302 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: saying that. 303 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: Well and listen, one of the most revealing things that 304 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: ABC interview is taped. It's not live. If they were 305 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: real journalists, you know what ABC should do. You know 306 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: what George Stephanopolis should insist on doing. The debate was live. 307 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: Let's have this interview be live. The American people need 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: to see how you answer real time, which means we ABC, 309 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: We're not going to edit out when you stare blankly 310 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: out at the wall and don't know what I say. 311 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: We're not going to edit out when you stumble. The 312 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: fact that it is taped means that George Stephanopolis can 313 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: go in and say, okay, oh, this exchange looked really 314 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: bad for Joe Biden. 315 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 8: Let's cut that out. Hmm. 316 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay, he's staring off at the ceiling and doesn't know 317 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: what's going on. Let's definitely not air that. And let's 318 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: find snippets where he seems cogin and let's piece them together. Now, 319 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: if George Stephanopolis was wearing his hat as Democrat operative 320 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: putting together a TV campaign for Biden, that would be 321 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,479 Speaker 3: a reasonable thing to do. But he's at least pretending 322 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: to be a journalist, and ABC is pretending to be 323 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: an actual news organization, and so anyone who actually cares 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: about journalism or news should insist the thing be live. 325 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: Let the American people see how he acts in real time. 326 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Let's take a step back from this, and I want 327 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: to ask you another question. You and I actually haven't 328 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: even talked about this yet, so I'm intrigued to know 329 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: what you think, and that is, are we going to 330 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: look back weeks, months, years from now and are we 331 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: gonna look at this moment in history and say, was 332 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: this the biggest political cover up in history? That we 333 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: had an incapacitated president, that the American people were sheltered from, 334 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: that the White House was covering for and lying for, 335 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: that the media was covering for and lying for. I 336 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: go back to November, Okay, not that long ago. White 337 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: House pres Secretory Jean Pierre said this to the American people. 338 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: I would put the president's domina, president's wisdom ability to 339 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 5: get this done on behalf of the American people against anyone, 340 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: anyone on any day. 341 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Of the week. 342 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean that was that was November, Senator, And I 343 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: think this is one of the biggest polists. 344 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: That she's really witness. 345 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: Yes, she is a really bad liar, But I mean 346 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: this is this is one of the biggest political cover 347 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: ups I've ever witnessed. 348 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 8: Yes and no. 349 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 3: Of course it's a cover up. Of course everyone is 350 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: complicit in. And of course the Democrats all know and 351 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: they're lying. Of course the media all know and they're lying. 352 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not a cover up. 353 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: Anyone whose head is not plunged into the sand. You 354 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: knew before the debate last week that Joe Biden was 355 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: mentally incapacitated. You knew that it was obvious. Anyone who's 356 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: ever had an elderly relative, a loved one, dealing with dementia, 357 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: dealing with Alzheimer's, You've seen that distant look, that shuffle, 358 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: that look of confusion. We see that every week. It's obvious. Look, 359 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: we've never seen a president do what Joe Biden does, 360 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: which is not talked to anyone in the Senate. In 361 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: three and a half years, I've had no conversations with 362 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. He has had no conversations with virtually any 363 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: Republican senator. We sit around at lunch and talk about 364 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: how weird that is because a major part of the 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: job being in the Senate is dealing with the President, 366 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: working with the president. You know, just over a month ago, 367 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: I passed the FA Reauthorization Bill. That is a huge bill, 368 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten billion dollars investment in infrastructure, in 369 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: safety for aviation, Enhancing safety for the flying public, Hiring 370 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: new air traffic controllers to keep people safe when they fly, 371 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: Investing billions in airports, putting collision detection technology on runways 372 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: to keep people safe, also expanding competition. Just Texas alone, 373 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of jobs depend upon aviation. We have 374 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: major airlines based in Texas. Millions of jobs depend indirectly 375 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: on aviation. It was a huge bipartisan victory. I was 376 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: the lead author along with Maria Cantwell. We passed it, 377 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 3: We passed it on the floor of the Senate eighty 378 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: eight to ford. Includes within it, finally, finally, finally, a 379 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: direct flight from San Antonio to Reagan Washington National Airport, 380 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: something San Antonio that entire community has been fighting for 381 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: for twenty years. That was a victory I wrote into law, 382 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: and we want it now. You know what would normally 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: happen when you pass major bipartisan legislation. 384 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you'd say the President might get in contact with. 385 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: You, you'd have a signing ceremony. In a typical, normal 386 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: functioning administration when there's big bipartisan legislation, the next step 387 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: is the White House contacts you and says we're gonna 388 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: have a signing ceremony. The signing ceremony, you go. Both 389 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: the Democrats and Republicans who are the authors of the 390 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: bill go and the President signs the bill into law 391 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: in the Oval office, and there are people there'd be 392 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: in this instance, you would have people from the airlines there. 393 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: You'd have people from airports there, You'd have the pilots 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: unions there, you'd have the flight attendance unions there, You'd 395 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: have everyone impacted by the bill there in the Oval office. 396 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: I've been to a lot of signing ceremonies. It's pretty typical. 397 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: You know what the Biden White House said. 398 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't even be surprised. They didn't even know 399 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: you guys were doing it. 400 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, they knew. They knew, and Biden signed the 401 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: bill when it came over. He signed it into law. 402 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: But there was no ceremony. And the reason there's no 403 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: ceremony They cannot have him interact with other people because 404 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: it is blazingly obvious this man is incapacitated. That has 405 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: been the way the administration is operated from day one. 406 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: They don't do signing ceremonies like other administrations. They hide him, 407 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: and so, yes, it's a cover up, but at another level, no, 408 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: it's not really a cover up because everybody knows the 409 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: thing that is studing Ben. 410 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 8: On the Democrat side of the aisle, nobody cares. 411 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: I have yet to speak to a single Democrat senator 412 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: or a single Democrat House member who's expressed genuine concern 413 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: that the commander in chief does not know what type 414 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: of day it is, that the commander in chief can't 415 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: find his way out of a locked box. I haven't 416 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: heard any concern from a single Democrat that America is 417 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: much less safe because our commander in chief is mister Magoo. 418 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 8: He is a confused. 419 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: Individual with serious disabilities who is not able to handle 420 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: a difficult situation. Look when you see the g eight 421 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: leaders gathered together and Joe Biden starts wandering off and 422 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: the Italian Prime Minister has to go and grab his 423 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: hand and lead him back. That's not good. It's not 424 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: good for the American president to be treated as the 425 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: elderly uncle everyone needs to take care of and cut 426 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: his food for and make sure they're no big pieces 427 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: so that he can, you know, we can steer the 428 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: airplane into the mouth. That is horrible for America and frustratingly, 429 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: ben no Democrat cares. The only reason anyone's discussing this 430 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: now is suddenly on the debate. The American people saw it, 431 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: and the Democrats are afraid they might lose. 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He said this about the President trying 485 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: to reassure Americans he's really fine, there's no cognitive decline, and. 486 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 10: The people who are with him every day have indicated 487 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 10: as well that it. 488 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Was an aberration, that it is an anomaly. 489 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 6: And if that is the case, then we will see that, 490 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: and we will see that over the next week, and 491 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: he will restore our faith and confidence in his fitness, 492 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 6: and then everything else between the two of them. 493 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 8: Cuts in favor of Joe Biden. 494 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 10: So people are right to have some concerns after that performance. 495 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 10: And I don't think there's any excuse that Joe Biden offered. 496 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 10: I think he was trying to explain how he had 497 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 10: such a poor performance. But he's accepted it, he's owned it, 498 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 10: he's acknowledged it as we all have. And what we 499 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 10: need to see from him is that vibrant and whip 500 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 10: smart president that we have had for the last three 501 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 10: and a half years. 502 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: And the people, I mean, you listen to him, and 503 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: then you go to the facts. Biden's post debate checkup 504 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: actually contradicts what the White House said. They have now 505 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: confirmed that and President Biden confirmed and again I'm quoting 506 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: reports coming out of the White House to the Democratic governors. 507 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: Remember they had this nine to one to one, you know, 508 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: all hands on deck meeting with Democratic governors to try 509 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: to reassure them that he had a medical checkup following 510 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: the president of debate. Despite earlier statements from the White 511 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: House pres secretary on multiple occasions that he had not 512 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: received any medical exam since February. We played some of 513 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: that in the last show. The White House later clarified 514 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: that Biden was seen by a doctor for a brief 515 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: quote brief checkup due to the lingering symptoms from a cold, 516 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: which did not include any major tests. So even when 517 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: they lie to you, they still can't. They're now lying 518 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: to either the governors or the American people, or they're 519 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: just lying about all of it. 520 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, Look, the cold is nonsense, the jet 521 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: lag is nonsense. Everyone knows that the issue is that 522 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: he's too old and he's suffering from dementia. That that 523 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: is blazingly true. They're trying to distract from this. Look, 524 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: I'll give you a sense of how bad it is. 525 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: Even the Praetorian Guard, even the most zealous defenders of 526 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, the Democrats, and by that I mean the 527 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: New York Times, even there turning on her. On Wednesday 528 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: of this week, The New York Times wrote a story, 529 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: the headline of which is Biden tells allies he knows 530 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: he has only days to salvage candidacy. Here's what The 531 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: New York Times wrote, by the way, this is not 532 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: an editorial, This is a news story. President Joe Biden 533 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: has told key allies that he knows the coming days 534 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: are crucial and understands that he may not be able 535 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: to salvage his candidacy if he cannot convince voters that 536 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: he is up to the job after a disastrous debate 537 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: performance last week. According to two allies who have spoken 538 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: with him, Biden has emphasized that he is still deeply 539 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: committed to fight for his reelection, but understands that his 540 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: viability as a candidate is on the line. The President 541 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: sought to project confidence Wednesday in a call with campaign staff, 542 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: even as White House officials were trying to calm nerves 543 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: inside the ranks of the Biden administration. Quote, no one's 544 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: pushing me out, Biden said in the call, I'm not leaving. 545 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: Vice President Kamala Harris was also on the line. Quote 546 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: we will not back down and we will follow our 547 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: president's lead. She said, we will fight and we will win. 548 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 3: Rah rah rah. Still, Biden allies said the President had 549 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: privately acknowledged that his next few appearances heading into the 550 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: July fourth holiday weekend must go well, particularly in an 551 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: interview scheduled for Friday with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News 552 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: and campaign stops in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Quote, he knows 553 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: that if he has two more events like that, we're 554 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: in a different place by the end of the weekend, 555 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: said one of the allies, referring to Biden's halting and 556 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: unfocused performance on the debate. That person who talked to 557 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: the President in the past twenty four hours spoke on 558 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive situation. The 559 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: accounts of his conversations with allies are the first indication 560 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: to become public that the president is seriously considering whether 561 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate 562 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: stage in Atlanta last Thursday. A new poll from The 563 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: New York Times in Siena College, the former President Donald 564 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: Trump now leads Biden forty nine to forty three percent 565 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: among likely voters nationally, a three point swing towards the 566 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: Republican from just a week earlier before the debate. This 567 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: is they're terrified, and note they're terrified about one thing. 568 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: They think Biden's going to lose. If they thought a 569 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: mentally incompetent person was going to win, they'd be fine, 570 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: but they're terrified that there at least some people who say, gosh, 571 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: maybe the commander in chief should should be aware of 572 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: what's going on around it. 573 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. 574 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 2: In the poll numbers that you just mentioned also connect 575 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: to some other polls that have come out, and that 576 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: is they're pulling every name against Donald Trump. There is 577 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: only one name right now that in the polling shows 578 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: that it could that they could quote beat Donald Trump. 579 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: That is the name that you gave nine months ago 580 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: that we've been talking about ever since. In Michelle Obama. 581 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: There have been pretty queer messages coming from her camp. 582 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: She's not interested. And then the next person that everyone 583 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: now seems to be thinking is probably the one that 584 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: would replace them is Kamala Harris. And that's just from 585 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: the money aspect of things. She's the one that can 586 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: use the money they've raised. She's the one that's already 587 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: set up to just keep walking forward. The same team 588 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: would be there, the same campaign manager, all the staff 589 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: is around there, so she would be the quote easiest choice. 590 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: You look at this, it doesn't say she could win, 591 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: but is she the front runner or is it Michelle 592 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: Obama or who is it in your opinion. 593 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: Look, I still think it's Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is 594 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: the only candidate the Democrats could push Kamala aside for. 595 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: They know Kamala is a terrible candidate. They're really scared. 596 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: They don't want her at the top of the ticket. 597 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: But they're bean counters. The way their party is. Whatever 598 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: your race, whatever your gender, whoever you are, that is 599 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: the dominant feature about you. It matters more than anything else. 600 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: The people who talk about putting Gavin Newsom in and 601 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: pushing Kamala aside, the Democrat Party would would would spontaneously 602 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: explode if they pushed a black woman aside for a 603 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: rich white man. 604 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 8: They're not going to do that. 605 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: There is the number of people who can push Kamala 606 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: aside in the Democrat Party. It is a set of 607 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: one and the only one is Michelle Obama. She too 608 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: is an African American woman. She could push Kamala aside. 609 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: Look the polling we've seen where there's a poll that 610 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 3: came out this week that showed Michelle Obama with a 611 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: double digit lead over Donald Trump. She would be a 612 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: very very dangerous candidate. If it's not Michelle Obama. If 613 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: Michelle says no, she might I hope she says no. 614 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: You know, I want to speak directly to Michelle. Well, hey, 615 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: you're really rich. You're enjoying the life of a movie star. 616 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: Private jets are fun, the Hamptons are fun. You're palide 617 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: around with people who are famous, with rock stars. You 618 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: don't need to go to work. You don't need to 619 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: bother yourself with pushing a Marxist agenda to destroy America. 620 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: Leave it to others to destroy America. You and your 621 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: family have done enough to damage the world. Enjoy the 622 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: life of a gazillionaire. I don't know that my pitch 623 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: is persuasive, but I hope it is because it would 624 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: be very good if she decides not to run. If 625 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: she does decide not to run, then I think the 626 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: person that replaces Biden probably is Kamala because I don't 627 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: think anyone else can. I think Kamala is a really 628 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: weak candidate. She is a very unpopular vice president. There's 629 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: a reason when she ran for president in twenty twenty 630 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: she got zero delegates. She couldn't even make it to 631 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: Iowa and get any support. But if she becomes the nominee, 632 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: they probably plugs someone in there as a VP to 633 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: try to balance it. It wouldn't surprise me to see 634 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: I could see Gavin Newsom as a VP to either 635 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris or to Michelle Obama. I think Gavin Newsom 636 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: is very much on the VP train, you know. I 637 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: could see a Gretchen Witmer, the governor of Michigan, as 638 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 3: a VP to either one of them as well. Both 639 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: of those I think are real possibilities. But at the 640 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: end of the day, I think the only two nominees 641 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: who have a credible chance replacing Biden or Michelle Obama 642 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris. And if I were a Democrat, I'd 643 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: be all in on Michelle because the polling shows she 644 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: wins and Kamala loses. 645 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: Final two questions for you. 646 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: One, when do you think the media has to stop 647 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: this onslaught of attacks on the president because they're going 648 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: full court press is in another week and then they 649 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: got to dial it back in case he does continue 650 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: to be the nominee, they can't push him out. And 651 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: number two, how important is this prime time taped interview 652 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: Friday night for Joe Biden's future? 653 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let me start with number two. The 654 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: interview on Friday is very important. If he goes and 655 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: just craps the bed, that could be fatal. I think 656 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: ABC and Stephanopoulos are going to do everything they can 657 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: to prevent that from happening. I think they're going to 658 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: edit the heck out of the interview. They should run 659 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: it live, and anyone who cares like ABC should be 660 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: embarrassed about itself that it's not running it live because 661 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: their editing will be designed to create a false impression, 662 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 3: to protect Joe Biden, to turn it into a campaign video. 663 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: If they're a real journalistic outlet. You know when I 664 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: do interviews, I do them live, and if I say 665 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: something dumb, you know what, the camera catches it and 666 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: all the world can hear. And it's not ABC's job 667 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 3: to be doing the pr and damage control for the Democrats, 668 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: but that's what they're doing. I think the interview matters 669 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: a lot. I also think it's interesting you're seeing Democrats 670 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: publicly breaking ships. So Lloyd Doggett, very liberal Democrat from Austin, Texas, 671 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: became the first Democrat member of Congress to say the 672 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: president should step aside. Two others, Jared Golden and Maine 673 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: and Marie Glosen camp Perez of Washington, both Democrats, both 674 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: said they believe Biden will lose in November. That's significant 675 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: that you're seeing elected Democrats coming out saying that. Another one, 676 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: Seth Moulton, another Democrat from Massachusetts, raised real questions about 677 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 3: whether Biden can win. He said, quote, I deeply respect 678 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: President Biden and all the great things he's done for America, 679 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: but I have grave concerns about his ability to defeat 680 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Winning will require prosecuting the case in the media, 681 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 3: in town halls and at campaign stops all over the country. 682 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 3: President Biden needs to demonstrate that he can do that. 683 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: The unfortunate reality is that the status quo will likely 684 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: deliver us President Trump. We're seeing that happening more and 685 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: more and more. 686 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 10: Now. 687 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 3: Your first question was how long will the media continue 688 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: to attack? Listen on the debate night, I predicted if 689 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 3: this is going to happen, it's going to shake out 690 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: in twenty one days. So we're a week into it. 691 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 3: I think we have two more weeks ahead of us. 692 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: We will go into the Republican Convention in two weeks. 693 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: I think we'll know what happens by then a final 694 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: point in one that has not been discussed a great deal. 695 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: I think all of this drama impacts President Trump very significantly, 696 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: and in particular, it impacts his vice presidential choice. Trump 697 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: is in the middle of presumably picking who he wants 698 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: to be VP. Lots of names have been floated, there 699 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 3: are lots of short lists, lots of things discussing. Well, normally, 700 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: when you're picking a VP, can you know who your 701 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 3: opponent is? You know what you're fighting against. In this instance, 702 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: it's a very difficult situation for Trump because the kind 703 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: of VP he might pick if he's running against Joe 704 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris could be a very different VP 705 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 3: than if he's running against Michelle Obama. I think right 706 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: now the Trump team is feeling incredibly confident. I think 707 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: they think they're gonna win, They're gonna beat Joe Biden. 708 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 3: I think they're feeling on top of the world. I 709 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: can tell you if the news broke tomorrow that Biden 710 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: was not the nominee anymore and it was going to 711 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: be Michelle Obama, the Trump team, if it were not 712 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: at a major emergency mode level of this is serious, 713 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 3: then they'd be misreading the situation because Michelle Obama's the 714 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: Democrat nominee is incredibly dangerous and that could easily impact 715 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 3: the vice presidential nominee. So, for example, if it's Michelle Obama, 716 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: may Trump picks Tim Scott deciding that he wants to 717 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 3: go fight and fight more aggressively for African American votes. 718 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 3: That's one possible consideration that maybe that's a little bit 719 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: less of a consideration if Joe Biden is at the 720 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 3: top of the ticket. So there are complicated, complicated chess 721 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: moves that are playing out right now because of the 722 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: uncertainty of who's going to be the nominee. 723 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep covering it all. Don't forget. We do 724 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: this show Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. We have our weekend 725 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: review on Saturday for what you may have missed during 726 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: the week. 727 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna be covering this. 728 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: We'll have a lot to say, I'm sure after this 729 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 2: interview on Friday night with the President and George Stepanopolis. 730 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 731 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: Share this wherever you are on social media and the 732 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: Center and I will see you back here in a 733 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: couple of days.