Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: Pod with myself and Hi, I'm Eric. I love that
Speaker 2: we awkwardly say this at the beginning of every episode.
Speaker 3: It's okay, you know what, you need to introduce yourself.
Speaker 3: People who can't see us need to know it's us.
Speaker 2: I mean, our voices aren't recognizable enough.
Speaker 3: Tell me about it. I knew it was you.
Speaker 2: Hold on, how'd you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right.
Speaker 2: So it starts off with Alexis says Shannon only says
Speaker 2: negative things about John. Shannon says she actually defended John.
Speaker 2: Andy says Shannon canfide it in the women, but didn't
Speaker 2: want it on the show. Shannon says she paid for
Speaker 2: everything the first year of the relationship, and then Alexis
Speaker 2: said they did forensic accounting and John spent three hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand on Shannon, not including the seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand for the facelift. Andy asked Alexis why she went
Speaker 2: out of her way to be petty towards Shannon and
Speaker 2: her engagement announcement. Alexis says it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3: It does because Shannon is living rent free in Alexis's
Speaker 3: mind and in Alexis's engagement and future with John. I
Speaker 3: just like if I don't care, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I do also think that forensic accounting seems like something
Speaker 2: a little bit too serious for this group.
Speaker 3: It seems too serious for the show. I don't watch
Speaker 3: this show to know that, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't want. I got kind
Speaker 3: of bogged down in this. I didn't like this part.
Speaker 2: And also like it made me want to go through
Speaker 2: my finances.
Speaker 3: It made me not want to go through my finances.
Speaker 3: It made me want to do I tell you you
Speaker 3: want to what it really did? What it made me think,
Speaker 3: My god, I don't want a data man that knows
Speaker 3: how much money he spends on me. Like that's not cool,
Speaker 3: Like you spend this. I don't want to be in
Speaker 3: a relationship like that. I don't. If I am of
Speaker 3: means and I spent shoes to spend money on you,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to feel bad.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to count my pennies.
Speaker 3: Right when it's all over, things didn't work out, like,
Speaker 3: don't be cheap? Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But also like if you want to do something,
Speaker 2: do it out of your heart, and.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, you want to do it.
Speaker 2: And if you can't do it and you're both in
Speaker 2: a financial situation where you can't, then you just trade
Speaker 2: on and off.
Speaker 3: We're also talking about people at a certain age where
Speaker 3: it shouldn't matter, like if you're in your twenties and
Speaker 3: you're coming up together, like I get it, you're strapped
Speaker 3: or whatever. But we're talking about people that are in
Speaker 3: their fifties however old like guys, we're in a different
Speaker 3: place in life. If I want to buy you something,
Speaker 3: I never expect to hear anything about it.
Speaker 2: Other I can don't remember how much the Ferragamo shoes
Speaker 2: that I potentially bought John Janssen were that.
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you I don't remember, as you know, like,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I definitely am not.
Speaker 3: And if I'm in a relationship or in that mindset
Speaker 3: where I'm doing that, that's not a place I.
Speaker 2: Should be and it's not a good relationship.
Speaker 3: Now then it's I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2: Then Heather and Shannon agree that John wants to be
Speaker 2: in the spotlight.
Speaker 3: Agreed agreed of course he does.
Speaker 2: He's in his own Also, did you notice that confessional
Speaker 2: wasn't lit the same way as other confessionals?
Speaker 3: Good you have worse lighting or better?
Speaker 2: It was just like the ship lighting.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like the news star lighting, lighting or retouching.
Speaker 2: Uh is that happening now? Is that why you guys
Speaker 2: look so sparkly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we look so young. That lighting is
Speaker 3: still giving us over eyebags, under eye bags from overhead lighting,
Speaker 3: which is abusive, like Mariah Carey said, this abusive overhead lights.
Speaker 2: You know what. This is abusive lighting. And here, as
Speaker 2: we've talked.
Speaker 3: About before, at least it's semi even.
Speaker 2: No, you have the better light, fucker, what.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about? We have two lights?
Speaker 2: No, you know your light is the more expensive. Line.
Speaker 3: I am old, I am more stressed.
Speaker 2: No, you are not.
Speaker 3: You just started this stressful journey. I'm five years in hooker.
Speaker 3: Don't try me.
Speaker 2: Then, Shannon says John was texting her two months before
Speaker 2: he met Alexis.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then we had the whole friends with benefits shit, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If you've been together for five years and
Speaker 2: then you're still having sex afterwards, it's not friends with benefits.
Speaker 3: And what is it just the continuation.
Speaker 2: Continuation of a toxic relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not the ending of it. You're just
Speaker 3: still kind of in and out.
Speaker 2: You're in and out, you're not you want to move on.
Speaker 3: But you're not right ready, so you're still Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 2: And that text said I love you.
Speaker 3: Yes, it did, And I wonder if that really resonates
Speaker 3: with Alexis.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I know he's telling you something different, but he wrote
Speaker 3: to her I love you. But then again he was
Speaker 3: telling Shannon and Alexis the same thing. So this man
Speaker 3: is a very interesting man.
Speaker 2: Then Emily Gina defend Shannon saying Alexis says, tweetled thee
Speaker 2: and tweedled dumb. Need to stay out of it.
Speaker 3: Come on, Emily, she fucking tore her ass up right here,
Speaker 3: living for it.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I like it when Emily all of a sudden turns,
Speaker 3: you know, because she's very thoughtful, you know, Lawyer puts
Speaker 3: on that and then all of a sudden she was
Speaker 3: like fuck that.
Speaker 2: No, But then when somebody she's like, you're the dumbest
Speaker 2: girl I've ever met, that's a big statement. It is,
Speaker 2: it is, and we know some dumb girls. We know
Speaker 2: some real fucking idiots, including ourselves.
Speaker 3: Including ourselves. This is why we thrive though ted, because
Speaker 3: we can admit that we're ding dark. We're self aware,
Speaker 3: very almost too self aware.
Speaker 2: You and I. Shannon says she and John broke up
Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving but still did things together. They were together
Speaker 2: until ten days prior before her do. UI.
Speaker 3: Okay, so again we're broken up, but we're still doing
Speaker 3: things together. Yeah, so we're still fucking.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, because Shannon says they were intimate, and
Speaker 2: then Tamra says John picked Shannon up from Jalen, took
Speaker 2: care of her.
Speaker 3: That's how you know it's real love. Man from Jalen
Speaker 3: take care of me and my broken arm in my face. Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm not bad for him, good for him? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I guess like it's deny.
Speaker 2: He probably knew that the paparazzi were going to be there.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's maybe Alexis said. Shannon lied about not
Speaker 2: knowing it was alone, claiming to have paid.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about this.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care. The audience doesn't care. Like John told Shannon, look,
Speaker 3: even if you hate me, you have to pay this
Speaker 3: loan back, basically okay.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon gets emotional. Emily doesn't understand why John didn't
Speaker 2: take Shannon's full offer. Alexis says, it's because of the
Speaker 2: non disparagement, which actually makes less sense to me, because
Speaker 2: if you're trying to move on.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't care about that. Just take the money,
Speaker 3: get the fuck on.
Speaker 2: Then he asks why John won't accept the money. Now,
Speaker 2: Alexis says, John had two days to decide on the lawsuit,
Speaker 2: and it happened to be when filming, was.
Speaker 3: Like he had two days for the statute to run
Speaker 3: or something, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like whatever. Then Alexis says John tried to get his
Speaker 2: money when they broke up, and Shannon says he never
Speaker 2: asked for his money back after they broke up. My
Speaker 2: favorite moment at this entire reunion is when Emily and
Speaker 2: Tarama were talking under their breath while Alexis and Shannon bought.
Speaker 2: Emily keeps asking Tama how she's friends with Alexis, and
Speaker 2: Tama goes, you're the one that brought her on.
Speaker 3: I regret it, and Emily responds, I regret it, I
Speaker 3: just love it. That's the whole show.
Speaker 2: Under the breath. Com are the best because of the
Speaker 2: best sometimes those and those are like the only things
Speaker 2: that actually kind of get you through at a reunion.
Speaker 2: It is that little small conversations that you're not sure
Speaker 2: if they're going to use because you're ready to cut
Speaker 2: your own face off.
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 2: Then John says he intends for no one to see
Speaker 2: the videos. It's unfortunate Shannon has not taken accountability for
Speaker 2: the people she's harmed that night. Alexis says she didn't
Speaker 2: know it was on camera when she spoke about please
Speaker 2: that was not Gavin's fucking iPhone. No, I'm sorry, we
Speaker 2: know Javins.
Speaker 3: Let's blame everything on Gavin if you're listening, But like
Speaker 3: you know, when it's iPhone footage, that was a full camera,
Speaker 3: full b crew.
Speaker 2: They were all there, b C. I mean, I do
Speaker 2: think that the Lake Arahead is it Lake Arahead or
Speaker 2: Big Bear? Yeah, I think that was be camera and
Speaker 2: Palm Springs was.
Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 2: But either way, she knew she was sucking on camera.
Speaker 2: Shut every time. The only time that you think you're
Speaker 2: off camera is when your mics are off and there's
Speaker 2: no camera man standing there. Like, it's very clear when
Speaker 2: you're on and off camera.
Speaker 3: Very clear. It's also it can be confusing when you
Speaker 3: go to pee and audio is still on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like. I don't love it because like
Speaker 2: you know, they can hear it.
Speaker 3: They can and I just always go, I gotta go
Speaker 3: to the bathroom. Guys, can I please not have my
Speaker 3: mic on right now?
Speaker 2: But also now I've taken to like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is like a PTSD thing where I have
Speaker 2: to whistle when I pee.
Speaker 3: That is PTSD.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't even do that.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know what, I'm a pee right here.
Speaker 3: I always just get guys, I'm going to go pee.
Speaker 3: I just I can't. I do remember one time when no,
Speaker 3: I don't poo poop it home. I'm a home pooper.
Speaker 2: In the mornings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a very regular person. I mean, you have
Speaker 3: a good gut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right in the morning. But sometimes with nerves you
Speaker 2: can't control.
Speaker 3: It is true.
Speaker 2: Then Emily says every trash can needs a lid, and
Speaker 2: John Jansen Now Emily Emily asks why Jen, ask Jen
Speaker 2: why she refers to Tamar and she said, I don't
Speaker 2: subscribe to mean girl behavior.
Speaker 3: You're on a show with nothing but mean girls babes.
Speaker 2: And then Jen says watching this with Shannon as horrible,
Speaker 2: and she asked Alexis when she was about out of the.
Speaker 3: Lawsuit, Yeah, I just I'm bored with this actually.
Speaker 2: Then Tarmra says when she found out Alexis was dating John,
Speaker 2: she reached out to Shannon, which.
Speaker 3: She did, and it was really nice to have the text.
Speaker 3: Although when she said I've blown these up, I thought
Speaker 3: we were going to get the Lisa Vana HEALVP thing.
Speaker 3: I was like, here we go.
Speaker 2: I was like, let's go. Shannon gets emotional, saying watching
Speaker 2: those videos was difficult, and Tamra acknowledged acknowledge her. Shannon
Speaker 2: and Tamra hug and then Tamar apologizes to Shannon.
Speaker 3: Tamar reads her text messages, Yeah, well, I got to
Speaker 3: tell you something. I think that, like blowing up these
Speaker 3: texts does two things for me. Number, when it makes
Speaker 3: us look old, it just does it just makes it
Speaker 3: not us but them, you.
Speaker 2: Know on the show, like if your ties are this big,
Speaker 2: it means that you're old and you can't see.
Speaker 3: And but I get having to show it because then
Speaker 3: otherwise people would say nanny, you can do it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and talk about some text messages
Speaker 2: that Erica got to see because she watched the Peacock
Speaker 2: version of the reunion and I watched the Bravo version
Speaker 2: of the reunion. So when she brought these up today,
Speaker 2: I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: That's right, I'm a company girl in case Bravo Peacock
Speaker 3: in BCU is listening, I'm a good I'm a good girl.
Speaker 3: And I watched it on Peacock and it had these
Speaker 3: extra texts and it does give a lot of context
Speaker 3: to what Tamara was saying. It proves that she did
Speaker 3: reach out to Shannon. These texts are really big and
Speaker 3: it looks like we're old. But it does show that Tama.
Speaker 2: Want to be Shannon or Tarma.
Speaker 3: I don't want to I want to be Erica.
Speaker 2: No, we're gonna have to read through the Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh god, all right, all right, you go. You're
Speaker 3: you're the one on the left.
Speaker 2: I know you are off now. Thank you for talking
Speaker 2: to me today. Save travels. I will miss you. Please
Speaker 2: send me the info so I can book your travel.
Speaker 2: You are going to kick ass heartface.
Speaker 3: I'm crying right now I can't stop. I hate leaving
Speaker 3: right now. I want to come over and lay in
Speaker 3: bed and talk with you. Is there?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: This is sh I know? Who are you?
Speaker 3: And who am I?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I want to come over and lay
Speaker 3: in bed and talk with you.
Speaker 2: Are you know? Seddy?
Speaker 3: I love you and I know that you're going through
Speaker 3: a really hard time right now.
Speaker 2: But no, you wouldn't lay in bed and watch shows
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: I will lie, I will, I will, I mean I
Speaker 3: you do it on.
Speaker 2: The couch or I was gonna.
Speaker 3: I was kidding. Should we get like a hotel room
Speaker 3: and like just totally you know, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2: Oh stop, now you're making me cry. And I literally
Speaker 2: been crying all day cry because you're gonna miss your family.
Speaker 2: I fucked up anyway to do everything I can to
Speaker 2: make it right. But I'm gonna read it with typos.
Speaker 2: Oh stop, now you're making me cry. I literally been
Speaker 2: crying all day cry because you're gonna miss your family.
Speaker 2: I fucked up anyway to do everything I can to
Speaker 2: make a rite. I'm really gonna miss you.
Speaker 3: It's a combination. I just don't feel right. Leaving.
Speaker 2: Sorry, the auto I can't do it is horrible. Sorry
Speaker 2: the auto correct didn't listen to my words properly. I
Speaker 2: just have to deal with it, and I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Speaker 3: You'll get through it and it'll all be better.
Speaker 2: You're going to kick ass and win that thing. I know,
Speaker 2: as you said today, this is going to force me
Speaker 2: to make important life decisions for the next chapter of
Speaker 2: my life. I know God has a plan. It will
Speaker 2: all come together, and I give.
Speaker 3: It a heart. What I have to do with this
Speaker 3: shit right Just know if I wasn't leaving, i'd be
Speaker 3: at your house right now.
Speaker 2: Of course, I know that.
Speaker 3: I wish I could just pick you up and take
Speaker 3: you with me, get you out of this shit storm.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to need you when you get home.
Speaker 3: Oh this is some Come on man, I know you
Speaker 3: for a million fives we have never talked like this.
Speaker 2: Well we are now. This isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a while, I know, please, and
Speaker 3: I'll be there. I found Oh, hold on, I found
Speaker 3: out while I was on the podcast and started crying
Speaker 3: as they aired. Is that true? It was okay?
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I be strong, my friend. I know it's going to
Speaker 3: be tough. I can't you know.
Speaker 1: That's where it ends.
Speaker 3: I guess we got fuck.
Speaker 2: I was ready to keep going and yeah, no.
Speaker 3: Quit.
Speaker 2: Well, anyways, all of you days of our lives? If
Speaker 2: you would like to hire us?
Speaker 3: Are they still on Young and the Restless?
Speaker 2: Fine? Whatever?
Speaker 3: Final thoughts? Here we are. Shannon said she's glad it's over.
Speaker 3: Guess what we are too? I mean, I've never been
Speaker 3: happier for someone else's lawsuit to be over myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Then Tarma says she wants to move
Speaker 2: forward with Shannon and she didn't like what she saw
Speaker 2: from herself this season. We didn't either, but I liked
Speaker 2: what I saw. At the reunion of TAM, Tamar pulled
Speaker 2: episode three for TAM. At the reunion, she pulled she.
Speaker 3: Pulled the Tamar that you know together and that's important.
Speaker 3: Heather is happy that they were able to resolve a
Speaker 3: lot of things. Heather, you're good, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Then Katie thinks Heather for what she said to her
Speaker 2: during the break but for some reason, I don't even remember.
Speaker 3: Okay, now this is what I need help with because yes,
Speaker 3: I watched it on Peacock, Thanks guys. But and so
Speaker 3: you know, I still know what the fuck am I watching?
Speaker 3: Thirty six hours later, everybody gets together, Now, what is this?
Speaker 3: Heather saying the night of the finale party? What night
Speaker 3: was that?
Speaker 2: No? So this it's very confusing. But what we have
Speaker 2: gathered allegedly.
Speaker 3: So here I want to make something very clear for
Speaker 3: the audience listening and watching. The difference between the finale,
Speaker 3: which is the final episode, right, is the episode the
Speaker 3: final reunion shoot comes much later. So these two things
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense here.
Speaker 2: It's important, Okay, it's important for the timeline that we understand.
Speaker 3: It as a viewer and not tamors. You know, I think, yes,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Teddy, you can walk me through this because
Speaker 3: I'm confused about what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we need to make things very clear. There
Speaker 2: is the finale, right, which is the final episode where
Speaker 2: we see Emily Schlocker falling off, trying to look over
Speaker 2: the hedges, whatever, Jen's engagement, yeah, whatever with the money
Speaker 2: laundering bestie allegedly whatever it is. So that night Heather
Speaker 2: and Terry Tamera and Eddie and Alexis and John went
Speaker 2: to dinner after filming. After filming, okay, so after that party,
Speaker 2: the reason Emily wasn't there is because she was drunk
Speaker 2: allegedly love you, Emily, but you looked pretty drunk. And
Speaker 2: they went to dinner and this information was shared allegedly
Speaker 2: by John Janssen that he heard it happen. He heard
Speaker 2: what happened the crash, the house crash, the house crash,
Speaker 2: so he heard Shannon crash allegedly into whatever the partition
Speaker 2: or the house.
Speaker 3: So now we cut to the reunion where both Heather
Speaker 3: and Alexis and who else was at that.
Speaker 2: Ten Heather, Alexis, and camera.
Speaker 3: So they all know what John Jansen has said at
Speaker 3: the dinner, but they don't say this at the reunion.
Speaker 2: They don't say it.
Speaker 3: And the reason for that is why.
Speaker 2: My guess is because it happened off camera. Whoa all yeah,
Speaker 2: whole hey, okay, So because this information was shared after
Speaker 2: the finas friends, this get right, they are the friends,
Speaker 2: but they're trying to I think this is the part
Speaker 2: where it gets very confusing when it comes to show
Speaker 2: versus reality. I think even if you dislike somebody, you
Speaker 2: don't want to tear them completely down on the show
Speaker 2: unless you're like a disgusting human being.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 2: So my guess is they get the reunion. And what
Speaker 2: I'm starting to understand because I'm looking at the timeline,
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure on this. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that after the reunion, you know how, all the girls
Speaker 2: break up and go to dinner together.
Speaker 3: I always went home, but yeah, no, you didn't.
Speaker 2: We went to Kyle's the year of you did Lie Lie?
Speaker 2: That was the show?
Speaker 3: No, okay what oh after the home reunion?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: After yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I go back
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, pretend amnesia, but I can't remember who the
Speaker 2: girls were by the paparazzi picks. But like eighty percent
Speaker 2: of the cast is eating dinner around that same time,
Speaker 2: Shannon comes in with her glam team to the same
Speaker 2: dinner location. This is after the reunion. What I heard,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true, is that one
Speaker 2: of the women went up to Shannon and told her
Speaker 2: what they had heard after the finale. Oh god, so
Speaker 2: this happened after the reunion, After the final party, one
Speaker 2: of those women slipped up. Okay, it's not my co host,
Speaker 2: That's all I can say. And then.
Speaker 3: How did that get back to production?
Speaker 2: Well, because you can imagine this would upset Shannon, of course,
Speaker 2: and that's how I think that brought us to our
Speaker 2: final scene, which I actually loved. I wish that scene
Speaker 2: would have happened a long time ago during the season.
Speaker 2: I'm glad they picked cameras back up because you know,
Speaker 2: they show Heather, Gina, Emily, Tamara, and Shannon. They all meet.
Speaker 2: Heather says the night of the finale party, she terry Tamar,
Speaker 2: exactly what I said, go to dinner. Heather says. John
Speaker 2: said he heard the crash. Tarmra says, John said he
Speaker 2: went to run after Shannon, but his daughter said stopped him.
Speaker 2: Then the daughter went around the corner and saw Shannon
Speaker 2: pulling out. Tamra says, John claimed that Shannon hit him.
Speaker 2: Shannon says she doesn't know what she did that night.
Speaker 3: And then and then Tamar whispered to her, you punched
Speaker 3: him in the face. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Tamra tells Shannon she loves her and that's
Speaker 2: why she was so mad. And then Tamra says being
Speaker 2: friends with Alexis was not to get back at Shannon,
Speaker 2: and then you see Shannon kind of cry and she's like,
Speaker 2: maybe I did punch him. And I think that is
Speaker 2: a really freaking real moment, and it's sad and it's heartbreaking,
Speaker 2: and I think.
Speaker 3: How does that make you now that you have this
Speaker 3: new information, How does it make you see things? How
Speaker 3: does it change your perspective? Does it matter? It does matter?
Speaker 3: All of this to me matters, it puts.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it shows the toxicity of the
Speaker 2: relationship between Shannon and John. I think it also shows
Speaker 2: that Tamra and Shannon do have a love for one another. Yes,
Speaker 2: maybe their relationship is also flawed because they are years
Speaker 2: and years of putting on a television show, of course,
Speaker 2: but I think in that moment you could see like
Speaker 2: I've got you there. I also think Gina was very
Speaker 2: well spoken at this. She really was, yeah, like, we
Speaker 2: do fucked up shit when we're upset, when we're hurt.
Speaker 2: And I think it took it more away from what
Speaker 2: we had seen on the show and actually made it
Speaker 2: more real, like this is this isn't a television show anymore.
Speaker 2: This is two really flawed people in a fucked up relationship.
Speaker 2: Children are involved, drinking is involved, and yeah, and imagine,
Speaker 2: I mean I've blacked out in my life, have you.
Speaker 3: Yeah on camera?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, me too, Provence, But blacking out
Speaker 2: and then not knowing what those videos are Like I
Speaker 2: knew even blacked out and Provence, I knew I was
Speaker 2: an asshole about you.
Speaker 3: But you didn't do anything that was gonna like affect
Speaker 3: the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I may have hurt your feelings. I may have been
Speaker 2: an asshole, that's it. But I know I didn't do
Speaker 2: anything physical to you.
Speaker 3: And you didn't get a d ua. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you weren't behind the wheel or do
Speaker 3: you say the thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I couldn't imagine that feeling.
Speaker 3: Well, it's terrorizing. Yeah, it's the terror.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why he wouldn't sign the non
Speaker 2: disparagement agreement, because he knows he can hold that terror
Speaker 2: over her. But I think her showing emotion about it
Speaker 2: and saying she doesn't remember shows her being a human
Speaker 2: about it and being being able to be okay to
Speaker 2: say I'm flawed and I made a mistake yep, and
Speaker 2: I'm scared. It was the first time this season I
Speaker 2: felt fully that from her, but she was afraid because
Speaker 2: she had to have her defenses up because of Alexis
Speaker 2: everywhere else. But in this moment, it was just the
Speaker 2: women that care about her.
Speaker 3: And what do you think about them holding withholding that information?
Speaker 3: Do you think they should have said that, like, do
Speaker 3: you think that was reunion worthy or.
Speaker 2: I mean I think the show probably would have appreciated
Speaker 2: them sharing that about.
Speaker 3: The show got mad. Yeah, yeah, let me tell you
Speaker 3: the show got mad upon learning this.
Speaker 2: But as a viewer, I think if that would have
Speaker 2: come out at the reunion, I think it would have
Speaker 2: come out differently, and I don't think it would have
Speaker 2: helped women the way that what we just saw possibly did.
Speaker 2: At the union. It would have been a fight you
Speaker 2: said this, and you said this, and you didn't tell
Speaker 2: me this in that setting with those women all talking
Speaker 2: to Shannon for the first time.
Speaker 3: But Alexis skits kind of off the hook here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you know at least at the reunion they would
Speaker 3: have been able to say, Hey, Alexis, what do you
Speaker 3: have to say about this?
Speaker 2: But what is Alexis going to say about it?
Speaker 3: But it's just kind of points to the fact that
Speaker 3: they're being mean to Shannon, you know that they're doing this?
Speaker 3: He knew.
Speaker 2: I know. Well, that marks the end of the season, guys.
Speaker 3: I wonder what happens now.
Speaker 2: I would guess if they have a two to three
Speaker 2: month break and then they will resume filming and probably
Speaker 2: have like one or two new cast members. I would
Speaker 2: guess that we no longer see Alexis and possibly Katie.
Speaker 3: Do you think she's gonna go the old ditch, Katie
Speaker 3: the ditch? That's a rude cut.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I have like this gut feeling
Speaker 2: that Joe from season one of Orange County is going
Speaker 2: to be back, okay, because I've been seeing she was
Speaker 2: up twat Con, She's been at all of our things.
Speaker 3: Just that name is just.
Speaker 2: You should have come up with it.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's like something I might.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys, thank you for tuning in always, And
Speaker 2: just so you know, for those of you guys who
Speaker 2: are loving the podcast with me and Erica, this isn't
Speaker 2: the last you're going to hear from us.
Speaker 3: No, it's not the end.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Thank you,