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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and

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Speaker 2: Pod with myself and Hi, I'm Eric. I love that

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Speaker 2: we awkwardly say this at the beginning of every episode.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, you know what, you need to introduce yourself.

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Speaker 3: People who can't see us need to know it's us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, our voices aren't recognizable enough.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about it. I knew it was you.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, how'd you know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Right.

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Speaker 2: So it starts off with Alexis says Shannon only says

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Speaker 2: negative things about John. Shannon says she actually defended John.

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Speaker 2: Andy says Shannon canfide it in the women, but didn't

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Speaker 2: want it on the show. Shannon says she paid for

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Speaker 2: everything the first year of the relationship, and then Alexis

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Speaker 2: said they did forensic accounting and John spent three hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand on Shannon, not including the seventy five

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Speaker 2: thousand for the facelift. Andy asked Alexis why she went

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Speaker 2: out of her way to be petty towards Shannon and

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Speaker 2: her engagement announcement. Alexis says it doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 3: It does because Shannon is living rent free in Alexis's

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Speaker 3: mind and in Alexis's engagement and future with John. I

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Speaker 3: just like if I don't care, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I do also think that forensic accounting seems like something

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Speaker 2: a little bit too serious for this group.

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Speaker 3: It seems too serious for the show. I don't watch

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Speaker 3: this show to know that, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't want. I got kind

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Speaker 3: of bogged down in this. I didn't like this part.

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Speaker 2: And also like it made me want to go through

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Speaker 2: my finances.

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Speaker 3: It made me not want to go through my finances.

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Speaker 3: It made me want to do I tell you you

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Speaker 3: want to what it really did? What it made me think,

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Speaker 3: My god, I don't want a data man that knows

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Speaker 3: how much money he spends on me. Like that's not cool,

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Speaker 3: Like you spend this. I don't want to be in

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Speaker 3: a relationship like that. I don't. If I am of

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Speaker 3: means and I spent shoes to spend money on you,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to feel bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to count my pennies.

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Speaker 3: Right when it's all over, things didn't work out, like,

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Speaker 3: don't be cheap? Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But also like if you want to do something,

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Speaker 2: do it out of your heart, and.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, you want to do it.

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Speaker 2: And if you can't do it and you're both in

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Speaker 2: a financial situation where you can't, then you just trade

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Speaker 2: on and off.

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Speaker 3: We're also talking about people at a certain age where

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Speaker 3: it shouldn't matter, like if you're in your twenties and

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Speaker 3: you're coming up together, like I get it, you're strapped

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But we're talking about people that are in

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Speaker 3: their fifties however old like guys, we're in a different

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Speaker 3: place in life. If I want to buy you something,

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Speaker 3: I never expect to hear anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Other I can don't remember how much the Ferragamo shoes

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Speaker 2: that I potentially bought John Janssen were that.

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Speaker 3: I can guarantee you I don't remember, as you know, like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 2: I definitely am not.

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Speaker 3: And if I'm in a relationship or in that mindset

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Speaker 3: where I'm doing that, that's not a place I.

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Speaker 2: Should be and it's not a good relationship.

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Speaker 3: Now then it's I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Then Heather and Shannon agree that John wants to be

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Speaker 2: in the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: Agreed agreed of course he does.

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Speaker 2: He's in his own Also, did you notice that confessional

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Speaker 2: wasn't lit the same way as other confessionals?

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Speaker 3: Good you have worse lighting or better?

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Speaker 2: It was just like the ship lighting.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like the news star lighting, lighting or retouching.

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Speaker 2: Uh is that happening now? Is that why you guys

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Speaker 2: look so sparkly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we look so young. That lighting is

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Speaker 3: still giving us over eyebags, under eye bags from overhead lighting,

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Speaker 3: which is abusive, like Mariah Carey said, this abusive overhead lights.

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Speaker 2: You know what. This is abusive lighting. And here, as

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Speaker 2: we've talked.

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Speaker 3: About before, at least it's semi even.

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Speaker 2: No, you have the better light, fucker, what.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about? We have two lights?

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Speaker 2: No, you know your light is the more expensive. Line.

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Speaker 3: I am old, I am more stressed.

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Speaker 2: No, you are not.

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Speaker 3: You just started this stressful journey. I'm five years in hooker.

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Speaker 3: Don't try me.

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Speaker 2: Then, Shannon says John was texting her two months before

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Speaker 2: he met Alexis.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then we had the whole friends with benefits shit, Like.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If you've been together for five years and

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Speaker 2: then you're still having sex afterwards, it's not friends with benefits.

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Speaker 3: And what is it just the continuation.

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Speaker 2: Continuation of a toxic relationship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not the ending of it. You're just

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Speaker 3: still kind of in and out.

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Speaker 2: You're in and out, you're not you want to move on.

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Speaker 3: But you're not right ready, so you're still Yeah. I agree.

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Speaker 2: And that text said I love you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it did, And I wonder if that really resonates

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Speaker 3: with Alexis.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know he's telling you something different, but he wrote

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Speaker 3: to her I love you. But then again he was

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Speaker 3: telling Shannon and Alexis the same thing. So this man

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Speaker 3: is a very interesting man.

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Speaker 2: Then Emily Gina defend Shannon saying Alexis says, tweetled thee

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Speaker 2: and tweedled dumb. Need to stay out of it.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Emily, she fucking tore her ass up right here,

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Speaker 3: living for it.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I like it when Emily all of a sudden turns,

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Speaker 3: you know, because she's very thoughtful, you know, Lawyer puts

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Speaker 3: on that and then all of a sudden she was

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Speaker 3: like fuck that.

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Speaker 2: No, But then when somebody she's like, you're the dumbest

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Speaker 2: girl I've ever met, that's a big statement. It is,

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Speaker 2: it is, and we know some dumb girls. We know

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Speaker 2: some real fucking idiots, including ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Including ourselves. This is why we thrive though ted, because

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Speaker 3: we can admit that we're ding dark. We're self aware,

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Speaker 3: very almost too self aware.

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Speaker 2: You and I. Shannon says she and John broke up

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Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving but still did things together. They were together

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Speaker 2: until ten days prior before her do. UI.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so again we're broken up, but we're still doing

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Speaker 3: things together. Yeah, so we're still fucking.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, because Shannon says they were intimate, and

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Speaker 2: then Tamra says John picked Shannon up from Jalen, took

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Speaker 3: That's how you know it's real love. Man from Jalen

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Speaker 3: take care of me and my broken arm in my face. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm not bad for him, good for him? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess like it's deny.

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Speaker 2: He probably knew that the paparazzi were going to be there.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's maybe Alexis said. Shannon lied about not

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Speaker 2: knowing it was alone, claiming to have paid.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. The audience doesn't care. Like John told Shannon, look,

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Speaker 3: even if you hate me, you have to pay this

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Speaker 3: loan back, basically okay.

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Speaker 2: Then Shannon gets emotional. Emily doesn't understand why John didn't

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Speaker 2: take Shannon's full offer. Alexis says, it's because of the

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Speaker 2: non disparagement, which actually makes less sense to me, because

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to move on.

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Speaker 3: Right, I don't care about that. Just take the money,

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Speaker 3: get the fuck on.

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Speaker 2: Then he asks why John won't accept the money. Now,

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Speaker 2: Alexis says, John had two days to decide on the lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: and it happened to be when filming, was.

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Speaker 3: Like he had two days for the statute to run

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Speaker 3: or something, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like whatever. Then Alexis says John tried to get his

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Speaker 2: asked for his money back after they broke up. My

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Speaker 2: favorite moment at this entire reunion is when Emily and

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Speaker 2: Tarama were talking under their breath while Alexis and Shannon bought.

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Speaker 2: Emily keeps asking Tama how she's friends with Alexis, and

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Speaker 2: Tama goes, you're the one that brought her on.

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Speaker 3: I regret it, and Emily responds, I regret it, I

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Speaker 3: just love it. That's the whole show.

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Speaker 2: Under the breath. Com are the best because of the

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Speaker 2: best sometimes those and those are like the only things

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Speaker 2: It is that little small conversations that you're not sure

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Speaker 2: if they're going to use because you're ready to cut

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Speaker 2: your own face off.

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Speaker 1: You are.

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Speaker 2: Then John says he intends for no one to see

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Speaker 2: the videos. It's unfortunate Shannon has not taken accountability for

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Speaker 2: the people she's harmed that night. Alexis says she didn't

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Speaker 2: know it was on camera when she spoke about please

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Speaker 2: that was not Gavin's fucking iPhone. No, I'm sorry, we

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Speaker 2: know Javins.

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Speaker 3: Let's blame everything on Gavin if you're listening, But like

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Speaker 3: you know, when it's iPhone footage, that was a full camera,

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Speaker 2: They were all there, b C. I mean, I do

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Speaker 2: think that the Lake Arahead is it Lake Arahead or

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Speaker 2: Big Bear? Yeah, I think that was be camera and

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Speaker 2: Palm Springs was.

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Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah you can.

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Speaker 2: But either way, she knew she was sucking on camera.

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Speaker 2: Shut every time. The only time that you think you're

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Speaker 2: off camera is when your mics are off and there's

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Speaker 2: no camera man standing there. Like, it's very clear when

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Speaker 3: Very clear. It's also it can be confusing when you

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Speaker 3: go to pee and audio is still on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like. I don't love it because like

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Speaker 2: you know, they can hear it.

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Speaker 3: They can and I just always go, I gotta go

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Speaker 3: to the bathroom. Guys, can I please not have my

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Speaker 2: But also now I've taken to like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if this is like a PTSD thing where I have

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Speaker 2: to whistle when I pee.

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Speaker 3: That is PTSD.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't even do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know what, I'm a pee right here.

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Speaker 3: I always just get guys, I'm going to go pee.

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Speaker 3: I just I can't. I do remember one time when no,

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Speaker 3: I don't poo poop it home. I'm a home pooper.

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Speaker 2: In the mornings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a very regular person. I mean, you have

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Speaker 3: a good gut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right in the morning. But sometimes with nerves you

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Speaker 2: can't control.

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Speaker 3: It is true.

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Speaker 2: Then Emily says every trash can needs a lid, and

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Speaker 2: John Jansen Now Emily Emily asks why Jen, ask Jen

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Speaker 2: why she refers to Tamar and she said, I don't

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Speaker 2: subscribe to mean girl behavior.

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Speaker 3: You're on a show with nothing but mean girls babes.

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Speaker 2: And then Jen says watching this with Shannon as horrible,

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Speaker 2: and she asked Alexis when she was about out of the.

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Speaker 3: Lawsuit, Yeah, I just I'm bored with this actually.

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Speaker 2: Then Tarmra says when she found out Alexis was dating John,

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Speaker 2: she reached out to Shannon, which.

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Speaker 2: You're going to kick ass and win that thing. I know,

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Speaker 3: It a heart. What I have to do with this

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Speaker 2: I'm still going to need you when you get home.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is some Come on man, I know you

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Speaker 3: for a million fives we have never talked like this.

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Speaker 2: Well we are now. This isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a while, I know, please, and

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Speaker 2: But I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I guess we got fuck.

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Speaker 2: I was ready to keep going and yeah, no.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyways, all of you days of our lives? If

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Speaker 3: Are they still on Young and the Restless?

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Speaker 2: Fine? Whatever?

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Speaker 3: Final thoughts? Here we are. Shannon said she's glad it's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Then Tarma says she wants to move

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Speaker 3: Heather is happy that they were able to resolve a

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Speaker 3: Okay, now this is what I need help with because yes,

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Speaker 2: No? So this it's very confusing. But what we have

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Speaker 3: It as a viewer and not tamors. You know, I think, yes,

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Teddy, you can walk me through this because

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Speaker 3: So they all know what John Jansen has said at

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Speaker 3: And the reason for that is why.

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Speaker 3: This is true.

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Speaker 3: I always went home, but yeah, no, you didn't.

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Speaker 2: We went to Kyle's the year of you did Lie Lie?

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Speaker 3: No, okay what oh after the home reunion?

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Speaker 3: After yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I go back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, pretend amnesia, but I can't remember who the

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Speaker 2: this happened after the reunion, After the final party, one

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Speaker 3: How did that get back to production?

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Speaker 2: Well, because you can imagine this would upset Shannon, of course,

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Speaker 3: And then and then Tamar whispered to her, you punched

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Speaker 2: And then Tamra tells Shannon she loves her and that's

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Speaker 3: How does that make you now that you have this

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Speaker 2: well spoken at this. She really was, yeah, like, we

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Speaker 2: do fucked up shit when we're upset, when we're hurt.

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Speaker 2: And I think it took it more away from what

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Speaker 2: we had seen on the show and actually made it

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Speaker 2: more real, like this is this isn't a television show anymore.

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Speaker 2: This is two really flawed people in a fucked up relationship.

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Speaker 2: Children are involved, drinking is involved, and yeah, and imagine,

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Speaker 2: I mean I've blacked out in my life, have you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah on camera?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, me too, Provence, But blacking out

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Speaker 2: and then not knowing what those videos are Like I

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Speaker 2: knew even blacked out and Provence, I knew I was

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Speaker 2: an asshole about you.

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Speaker 3: But you didn't do anything that was gonna like affect

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Speaker 3: the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I may have hurt your feelings. I may have been

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Speaker 2: an asshole, that's it. But I know I didn't do

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Speaker 2: anything physical to you.

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Speaker 3: And you didn't get a d ua. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you weren't behind the wheel or do

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Speaker 3: you say the thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I couldn't imagine that feeling.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's terrorizing. Yeah, it's the terror.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why he wouldn't sign the non

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Speaker 2: disparagement agreement, because he knows he can hold that terror

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Speaker 2: over her. But I think her showing emotion about it

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Speaker 2: and saying she doesn't remember shows her being a human

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Speaker 2: about it and being being able to be okay to

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Speaker 2: say I'm flawed and I made a mistake yep, and

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Speaker 2: I'm scared. It was the first time this season I

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Speaker 2: felt fully that from her, but she was afraid because

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Speaker 2: she had to have her defenses up because of Alexis

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Speaker 2: everywhere else. But in this moment, it was just the

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Speaker 2: women that care about her.

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Speaker 3: And what do you think about them holding withholding that information?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they should have said that, like, do

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Speaker 3: you think that was reunion worthy or.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think the show probably would have appreciated

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Speaker 2: them sharing that about.

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Speaker 3: The show got mad. Yeah, yeah, let me tell you

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Speaker 3: the show got mad upon learning this.

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Speaker 2: But as a viewer, I think if that would have

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Speaker 2: come out at the reunion, I think it would have

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Speaker 2: come out differently, and I don't think it would have

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Speaker 2: helped women the way that what we just saw possibly did.

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Speaker 2: At the union. It would have been a fight you

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Speaker 2: said this, and you said this, and you didn't tell

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Speaker 2: me this in that setting with those women all talking

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Speaker 2: to Shannon for the first time.

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Speaker 3: But Alexis skits kind of off the hook here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: do you know at least at the reunion they would

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Speaker 3: have been able to say, Hey, Alexis, what do you

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Speaker 3: have to say about this?

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Speaker 2: But what is Alexis going to say about it?

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Speaker 3: But it's just kind of points to the fact that

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Speaker 3: they're being mean to Shannon, you know that they're doing this?

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Speaker 3: He knew.

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Speaker 2: I know. Well, that marks the end of the season, guys.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what happens now.

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Speaker 2: I would guess if they have a two to three

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Speaker 2: month break and then they will resume filming and probably

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Speaker 2: have like one or two new cast members. I would

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Speaker 2: guess that we no longer see Alexis and possibly Katie.

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Speaker 3: Do you think she's gonna go the old ditch, Katie

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Speaker 3: the ditch? That's a rude cut.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I I have like this gut feeling

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Speaker 2: that Joe from season one of Orange County is going

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Speaker 2: to be back, okay, because I've been seeing she was

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Speaker 2: up twat Con, She's been at all of our things.

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Speaker 3: Just that name is just.

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Speaker 2: You should have come up with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's like something I might.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys, thank you for tuning in always, And

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Speaker 2: just so you know, for those of you guys who

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Speaker 2: are loving the podcast with me and Erica, this isn't

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Speaker 2: the last you're going to hear from us.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not the end.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,