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Speaker 1: there's Josh. Let's get it started. Yeah, let's get it started.

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Speaker 1: And here got timely episode. We are rarely recording to

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Speaker 1: that's not impeachment? And uh, it turns out that the

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Speaker 1: Iowa caucus is getting a little news. Yeah, just a tad.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, like we thought that we would have the

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Speaker 1: this yesterday and the day of the caucus, woke up

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Speaker 1: cluster f crazy. Yeah, but um, we're talking about caucuses

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Speaker 1: in the Io caucus, uh, and why it's important and

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Speaker 1: where it came from. We should define caucus because a

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Speaker 1: It's kind of an old timey thing, a relic, and

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Speaker 1: that's hill still in use in Iowa. Uh, caucus that

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Speaker 1: find caucus as a meeting in which local members of

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Speaker 1: uh or select delegates to attend to convention. Right. But

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Speaker 1: the thing about a caucus is it's not like just

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Speaker 1: going to vote, that's a primary. A caucus is where

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Speaker 1: you are physically present in the room, like that meeting

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Speaker 1: you described, and the way that you show at least

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Speaker 1: most normal people would call it for a candidate is

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Speaker 1: been set aside for that candidate supporters and their names

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Speaker 1: needs to go away. Okay, that's just step one. That's

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Speaker 1: under some serious threat of not more, it's more it's

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Speaker 1: ironically by trying to modernize caucus. Right, So we'll get

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Speaker 1: to all that. Okay, So so you go stand by

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Speaker 1: your delegates name, and if enough other people who are

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Speaker 1: a right, that was my candidate. Right, there's only like

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Speaker 1: eight other people here standing under the Yang team sign.

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Speaker 1: Yang had more than they. Yeah, of course you did.

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Speaker 1: how they run. The Democrats run the Iowa Caucus, Republicans

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Speaker 1: it is artificially important. The Iowa Caucus is not actually,

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Speaker 1: Did what? What place did he come in? Chuck, Well,

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Speaker 1: why Iowa is actually important. But again this is artificial

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Speaker 1: That actually causes funding to dry up for the campaign.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give money to someone who's not viable, right,

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Speaker 1: the media said they're not viable. And then conversely, like

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Speaker 1: pain can just take off. That's what happened to Obama

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Speaker 1: this stuff, again is just self fulfilling prophecy, which is

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Speaker 1: which rendered the Iowa caucus totally unnecessary. The whole thing

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Speaker 1: coming in second. Yeah, everyone kind of claimed victory because

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Speaker 1: no one could not. Everybody claimed victory. Well, some people

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Speaker 1: clearly could not. The people are in that gym uncommitted. Yeah. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: if you want to know more about the Iowa Caucus,

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Speaker 1: you better find out about it now because it might

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Speaker 1: not be around next time. Maybe not. We'll see what happens.

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