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Speaker 1: if you do if you look at it, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the ratio of African American women that are

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Speaker 1: signed enough for this procedure as opposed to their Caucasian cohorts,

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Speaker 1: we are the majority. So we have to stop underestimating us,

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Speaker 1: and and and and and focus on like I said,

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Speaker 1: focus on the people that wanted the most. I know

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Speaker 1: who wants this the most now me being African American

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Speaker 1: female and being the only player, a big player out there,

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Speaker 1: that Frican American woman. While Woden, I focused on that demographic.

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Speaker 1: But everybody everything else will fall in line. And that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. I focused on the demographic that one is

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Speaker 1: the most and guess what, I still have people from

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Speaker 1: all different races, nationalities from all over the world that

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Speaker 1: seek out my services. You know I focused in even

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Speaker 1: though I focused on African American woman's. Uh well, the

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Speaker 1: thing I like about is that you gave yourself a base.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of you know. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, any successful company, whether you Apple or you

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Speaker 1: Chick fil A, they have a base that they identify

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Speaker 1: and then they advertise to everybody. Because if your base

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Speaker 1: is gonna be there for you, then that's what you

445
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Speaker 1: can produce. You your your budgets, you'll you'll and your

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Speaker 1: quarterly what you're gonna be doing when you can start forecasting,

447
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Speaker 1: when you know who you're talking to and that's really important.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so so happy you was able to come

449
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Speaker 1: on the show just to convey that message consistently. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I you know, I could come

451
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Speaker 1: on here and let people know, because don't be afraid

452
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Speaker 1: to to target that audience that that other people are

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Speaker 1: going to tell you why are you targeting them? Don't

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Speaker 1: be afraid. If you have a distinct intuition that these

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Speaker 1: are the people that you want to drive to your business,

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Speaker 1: you need to go with that. You need to go

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Speaker 1: with that. And before we get on the phone, tell

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Speaker 1: us how we can reach out to you. Come on now, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So at fixture feed dot com you can reach me

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Speaker 1: at eight seven seven four zero three one nine two nine.

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Speaker 1: seven four zero three one nine to nine And I'm

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Speaker 1: on I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You know you can damn me. I'm here. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for you guys. You're fantastic. Also linked in. She's also

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Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. Uh, you know, it's a fourth quarter. I

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Speaker 1: gotta have you back. We're gonna do another two breaks.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take phone calls will make a big deal

469
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Speaker 1: about it because you're fantastic and I want to help

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Speaker 1: you build your brain because you're you're amazing every time

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Speaker 1: I speak to you, and I like to believe you know,

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Speaker 1: ra Sean mcdown the hip. All let's get started way

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Speaker 1: back at two thousand and five. That's right, That's that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Thank you, you know, thank you, thank you

475
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Speaker 1: and blessings to you. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 1: me on the show. And I'd love to let people

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Speaker 1: know about how I started to business is almost no money,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk about that too. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: starting back right, give her out of applause, doctor, you're

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Speaker 1: Notanda Raguling. She's based out of New York City on

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Speaker 1: Park Avenue in the DC area. Silver It Springs, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Fix your feet, make it happen. Will be right back

483
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Speaker 1: from my man, Alan Sean McDonald back with money making conversation.

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Speaker 1: Let's get your rolling right along, because he's on the

485
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Speaker 1: phone right now. He's one of my favorite actors. He

486
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Speaker 1: doesn't even know that then. I'm a big fan of his,

487
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Speaker 1: but he's about to find out now because he's on

488
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Speaker 1: my show. Talk about him being an entrepreneur, let's get

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Speaker 1: these credits out the way. My next guest as an actor, writer, director,

490
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Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. You've seen him on shows like Blackish on ABC, Survivors,

491
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Speaker 1: Remorse which is on Stars and had the finale last night.

492
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Speaker 1: You're the Worst films like Where's the Money? Straight out

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Speaker 1: of Competent, the Equalizes in case and developed the Injustry's

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Speaker 1: first digital for short films. Everybody digital, please work with

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Speaker 1: the money making conversation the very talented Talleidar Alan Maldonado, Alan,

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Speaker 1: how you doing? What's going on? Jim? And I'm doing

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Speaker 1: next with the man? Thank you for the fantastic intro.

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Speaker 1: Come on now, I'm telling the truth. I woul tell

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Speaker 1: you something, man. I'm a big fan of yours, all right, So,

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Speaker 1: oh man, that's love, you know. And and it's so

501
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Speaker 1: crazy because they only got me for one break with you,

502
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Speaker 1: and we got a lot of talk about but we're

503
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Speaker 1: gonna squeeze when we can, and it's one break. But

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Speaker 1: the first I gotta just talk about me being a

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Speaker 1: fan of yours. Okay, Okay, So I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many minutes they're gonna take, but we gotta talk about that, man,

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Speaker 1: because you're talented dude. We got Hey, we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to do what we do because first of all,

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Speaker 1: this this brother here man, because this is why I

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Speaker 1: like him, because see he's an actor, but he's also

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Speaker 1: a writer, and so you're writing on survivor's remorse right now? Correct? Correct, Okay,

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Speaker 1: which is important to here because see, you can see

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Speaker 1: the power of anything in the industry is behind the camera.

514
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Speaker 1: You can work, you can direct, you can put yourself

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Speaker 1: in front of the camera, just like I doing right now,

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Speaker 1: a writer, director, and producer. He understands that right now.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you, if you if you

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Speaker 1: google this young man right now and you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know that face. Oh that's what that is. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna say. I swear that they're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: because I consider myself around the way famous man. Because

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Speaker 1: everybody was like, no, I know, I know you can

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Speaker 1: comewhere living next to channel right and be like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now do other changes fish play on some days, man,

525
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Speaker 1: because you building your brand as a you know, lesuse

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Speaker 1: the word character actor, you know, because you're funny, you

527
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Speaker 1: could be dramatic. You know. Let's put this away a

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Speaker 1: young Samuel Jackson. You feel me, he come talking about it.

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Speaker 1: You feel so so his character on Survivor's Remort And

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Speaker 1: I'm mad because the finale was last night, and I

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Speaker 1: should have had you on the show last week to

532
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Speaker 1: promote the finalite. But you got stuff going on this week.

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Speaker 1: So we're in good shape because you're on Black Is

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Speaker 1: on this this week, and you've got the other stuff

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Speaker 1: coming up with Tracy Moore. You're gonna talk about all that.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, you should not have been one break

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Speaker 1: okay now on Black Is Man, I mean on Survivor's Remorse.

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Speaker 1: When you played this character, it was kind of like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some man. That character was so

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Speaker 1: funny and so real because he was a ghetto. You

541
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Speaker 1: were like a ghetto manager for this football player. Correct. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was ex drug dealer, turn manager, was a meth

543
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Speaker 1: It was a mess. Now. The only thing that maybe

544
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Speaker 1: mad because this character was so funny and was so good.

545
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Speaker 1: Break that character down right quick, because I don't want

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Speaker 1: anybody he started and played this character on Survivors Moore

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Speaker 1: and looked detail about it. Yeah. No, definitely, I mean

548
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Speaker 1: you definitely go to Stars and cat teas into a

549
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Speaker 1: Survivors the Morris Man played the character named the Shan Maybe,

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Speaker 1: the ex drug dealer turn manager of the number one

551
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Speaker 1: draft pick uh for the current NFL UH. And he

552
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Speaker 1: basically was everything that he wanted in the manager. That

553
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Speaker 1: was fun. He was crazy, he was sorry. He would

554
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Speaker 1: help get prostitutes to drugs like he was. He was

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Speaker 1: the worst. He was the worst of the best thing

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Speaker 1: for anybody trying to have a good job. Okay, we're

557
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Speaker 1: gonna take you to the mac. Go all the way right,

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Speaker 1: and and and rob Rico lead ain't into the picture

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Speaker 1: of rod Rico Lee. He's the manager of the star

560
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Speaker 1: of the series camp. And so the only part I

561
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Speaker 1: said you should have shot Rodrico Lee is when he

562
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Speaker 1: confronted you on that basketball court. Oh, your character would

563
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Speaker 1: have shot him. Your character in real life would have

564
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Speaker 1: shot Yeah. He would even leave gave a flat. You

565
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Speaker 1: would have leave flet You'd never thinking about something, Yeah, definitely,

566
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Speaker 1: because that character would. That character was that amazing to me.

567
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Speaker 1: It was funny. I hope to see it again. But

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Speaker 1: you're right up, so you know you're writing in the

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Speaker 1: writer's room, So let's see season five. I got to

570
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Speaker 1: see him pop up again. But man, yeah, every time

571
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Speaker 1: when I was in the writing's room of every pick,

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Speaker 1: it could be something that had to do with making,

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Speaker 1: you know, birthday cake through flowers, I was like aga

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Speaker 1: and delivering this. Yeah, both definitely, I was. I was

575
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Speaker 1: always you know, I love it and I hope you

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Speaker 1: don't mind. I hope you don't mind me. You know,

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Speaker 1: chill leading your own for a few is before we

578
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Speaker 1: get it too. Why you really got problem? I appreciate it. Okay, cool.

579
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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about this app, this ultimately library for

580
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Speaker 1: License award winning film from across the world providing a

581
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Speaker 1: home for short film called Everybody Digital. Please tell everybody

582
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Speaker 1: what exactly is that Everybody Digital? Everybody Digital? Man, um,

583
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Speaker 1: it's a short film uh streaming app. Basically, we're the

584
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Speaker 1: um short film version of Netflix. So like, say that

585
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Speaker 1: one more time, A let's say that one more time. Man,

586
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Speaker 1: you you don't throw a brand like that and just

587
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Speaker 1: want that's right, that's right. We are the short film

588
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Speaker 1: version of Netflix, being that we have short films instead

589
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Speaker 1: of feature films and with an original content such as

590
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Speaker 1: original short films, original digital series. Basically everything that Netflix does,

591
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Speaker 1: but in the short form. Version. Um, the app is

592
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Speaker 1: available now uh in the Apple story, to be ready

593
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Speaker 1: in Google next month, but the next month and to

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Speaker 1: be ready um. And it's it's a it's a it's

595
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Speaker 1: a it's a feat that hasn't yet to be done,

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Speaker 1: being that short films have been looked over. They've been

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Speaker 1: only seen as a step of song. But I've been

598
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Speaker 1: in the industry where like music videos, um, even to

599
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Speaker 1: the point where like these Instagram short videos are and

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Speaker 1: make billions of dollars for individuals. So um uh, short

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Speaker 1: films have been left behind, being that they're a grandfather

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Speaker 1: to all of these Instagram videos and short skits and everything. Uh.

603
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Speaker 1: In the eighties, short films used to go before feature films, um,

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Speaker 1: and they were replaced by trailers. So at this current time,

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Speaker 1: before everybody did it, there was no distribution. There was

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Speaker 1: no way for the average consumer to even see or

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Speaker 1: even know these films existed. Um. It all came about

608
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Speaker 1: because I had a I'm a short filmmaker myself, so

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Speaker 1: I consider it like Foo Boo for us by us

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Speaker 1: a short film app by short filmmaker UM, where I

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Speaker 1: had a film that went on film festivals and won

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Speaker 1: countless awards. And gotten several film festivals, and after the

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Speaker 1: Twitter fifth team up window that you have with film festivals,

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Speaker 1: it was over. There was no distribution and the demographic

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Speaker 1: was so limited, being that the people that go to

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Speaker 1: these film festivals are usually friends of family, people are

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Speaker 1: part of the film are just people in the film industry.

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Speaker 1: The avid consumer that enjoys movies every weekend and watch

619
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Speaker 1: television has no clue to even film festivals eive exists.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know what they even do or consist of.

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Speaker 1: So I want to create a platform to to broaden

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Speaker 1: the exposure, uh for short films and also with everybody digital.

623
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Speaker 1: We're creating an industry. So in two years we would

624
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Speaker 1: have created an industry for short films to actually make

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Speaker 1: money with right right, right, right right what wich is

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Speaker 1: kind of like you know what YouTube is doing right

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Speaker 1: now now? They call it YouTube bread, correct right right?

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Speaker 1: That that's their originals, that's their original content format. Yea,

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Speaker 1: what is YouTube bread? Now? Let's let's talk about your

630
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Speaker 1: upcoming because I gotta I'll be remiss, I brag about

631
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Speaker 1: how challenge you are and not tell people what's happened

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Speaker 1: this week because you're on black is just on the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth of this week, right correct, Black tell us about

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Speaker 1: that character set up, and then we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: something that he shouldn't. So uh so, yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's black Man. Proud of the show. But on that

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Speaker 1: dream come true. Man to be, you know, being part

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Speaker 1: the executive producer, you know, he came back for me

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Speaker 1: on Moha. That's where I know him from. You know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I just tell you something, Alan, you

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Speaker 1: of me. The fact that you're going into the writing side,

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Speaker 1: you're going to the technical side, know that I'm always

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Speaker 1: there to support your brand. Is that, man? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate man. I love the support. Man. And and

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Speaker 1: we as a community, we definitely got to support each

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Speaker 1: other and support our dreams. And that's the way we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move forward as a as a as

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Speaker 1: for other people to do it for us. We got

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Speaker 1: to look within our own community and support each other.

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Speaker 1: And then then we can stand tall, and we can

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Speaker 1: And the great thing about it, Okay, let's let's back

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Speaker 1: up right quick. Everybody digital, how can they get that? Yes,

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Speaker 1: in the month Android, if you'd be good to go.

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Speaker 1: And now we've come back on the show and talk

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Speaker 1: about that, okay, because by then, think the Last O

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Speaker 1: that you're doing with Mike Epps and Tear Crews. I

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Speaker 1: gotta think cover here with your Alan. Yeah you did,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you did. Yeah you squeez squeeze it in squeeze.

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Speaker 1: I got you. I ain't an interview get out, but

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Speaker 1: my man, I wanna tell you this. We're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: tell people. Keep driving people to it, man, more important, man,

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Speaker 1: love you, man, People that need to hear Come on,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to You're gonna be back in November.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell everybody that puts you back home, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do We're gonna do tooth breaks. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: him out on Blackette with Jesus a regular. He's coming

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Speaker 1: ELPs Alan Maldonado, he's the man, and guess what we

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Speaker 1: got more to come. If you are a victim of

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Speaker 1: the Hurricane Harvard and you want to learn about disaster

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Speaker 1: relief loan, the deadline is coming up. Richard Jakins is

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Speaker 1: coming right back. Hi. This was Sean McDonald. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation. You're just getting rolled and just

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Speaker 1: wrapped up with Dr Dr Landa app Rockanda Adams, Dr

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Speaker 1: the Expert also just finished a great call over Man

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Speaker 1: Alan Maldonado, with the digital Uh, every everybody digital. You've

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Speaker 1: his napp that he's launched on the Apple platform is

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Speaker 1: free as Everybody Digital. Also coming up on the show

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Speaker 1: with my Man, dr Ian Smith, uh, number one New

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Speaker 1: York Times bestseller, write a new book every year. And

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Speaker 1: then also after that, CNN contributor political expert Van Jones,

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Speaker 1: another person I'm a Vick Fander. But before we go

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Speaker 1: in there further, I had another person on the show

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Speaker 1: talking about disaster recovery and it was tied to the

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Speaker 1: small busin this administration. That was Richard jenkins Um inviting

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Speaker 1: them back on the show. Got wrapped up to the meeting.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that the SBA they'll cover them sales.

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Speaker 1: They got back up for backup because they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: sure you get the information out there. Please. Working for

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Speaker 1: the first time on money making Conversations from the Small

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Speaker 1: Business Administration, Mark Randall Hayde on Mark, I'm Donna very well,

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Speaker 1: thank you with you, thank for having us on My Man.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. H Richard really set me up.

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Speaker 1: He gave me a lot of information. There's a deadline

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Speaker 1: coming up. Correct, That is correct. Cover is the deadline

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Speaker 1: to register with FEMA and to apply to the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Small Business Administrations for a federal low interest loan. So

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Speaker 1: it's a very important deadline. We really want people to

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Speaker 1: not miss out on anything and the assistance they may have.

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Speaker 1: So it's important to register with FEMA. In most cases,

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Speaker 1: they will refer you to s b A. Right, it's

742
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Speaker 1: important that to complete that SBA application for a number

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Speaker 1: of reasons. You know, it's really important that I that

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Speaker 1: you came back on because remember that as soon as

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Speaker 1: he hunk up the phone, we just say, really, I

746
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: should have mentioned about the deadline. Can you bring me back?

747
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Speaker 1: And I you know I'm not. I'm not doing this

748
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Speaker 1: show just for ratings. Let me don't get the information

749
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Speaker 1: out to change people's lives and impact them. Now, this

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Speaker 1: deadline is also for homeowners as well a small businesses. Correct,

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: that's correct. When there's a disaster, s b A offers

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Speaker 1: loans to businesses of all sizes as well as homeowners

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Speaker 1: and renters, so the residents. So if you if you

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Speaker 1: were impacted by Hurricane Harvey and you restro a FEMA,

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Speaker 1: then you need in a favor for the SBA. You

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Speaker 1: need to apply to SBA. There's no cost, there's no obligation,

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Speaker 1: no fees associated with applying to SBA. So at this

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Speaker 1: point you don't want to try, and you only got

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Speaker 1: to talk over twenty four you don't want to try

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Speaker 1: and make up your mind. If you think you need

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Speaker 1: or want to loan, go ahead and apply. If we're

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Speaker 1: able to prove you, You'll have plenty of time to

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Speaker 1: make that decision and you'll know if you have a

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Speaker 1: we're able to prove you to use that in your

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Speaker 1: planning for your recovery. That was interesting. I had a

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Speaker 1: really good conversation with my nephew and he's a he's

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Speaker 1: a very successful barbecue. I'm using as an example because

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Speaker 1: he need used to be using this example and his

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Speaker 1: his food trailer was damaged by Hurricane Harvey with uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, water damage came through the roof and uh.

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Speaker 1: He came to me for assistance and to help him

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Speaker 1: all and we're gonna partner up. And then I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I said, have you contacted the SBA? He said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I don't really want to go through

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Speaker 1: all that half, so and then he went over there.

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Speaker 1: I applied but then they turned me down, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I went so a month passed and now, and

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Speaker 1: then then when Richard told me the deadline was coming

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Speaker 1: back up, I went back to him. I go, okay,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me again exactly what happened with the SBA. Well,

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Speaker 1: they turned me down. I said, Uh, okay, why did

782
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Speaker 1: they turn you down when they're telling me they're clearing

783
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Speaker 1: people over there at an alarming rate? He said. Then

784
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Speaker 1: he did his homework and he realized that he had

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Speaker 1: filled out the paperwork incorrectly. So that's the that's the

786
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: people are kind of like stopping themselves. Correct. That's correct.

787
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Speaker 1: And we have uh SBA folks, and fifty three centers

788
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Speaker 1: throughout the damaged the counties that were declared, and they're

789
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Speaker 1: at the disaster recovery centers and that the business recovery centers,

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Speaker 1: and we will sit down and help you actually apply online.

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Speaker 1: And when we get it done, it's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be in right and accepted. So we'll

793
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Speaker 1: go over all the things you need to do. And

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00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: in this case, he could go back in the center

795
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Speaker 1: and say, Okay, what I need to make do different here?

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Speaker 1: What what do we need to do and we will

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Speaker 1: help him to get that submitted timely, right, And so

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I wanted to hear, because see, I

799
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Speaker 1: get so frustrated with people who just throw their arms

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Speaker 1: up and then they and then they kind of bad

801
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Speaker 1: off the government and bad off departments and say, you know,

802
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Speaker 1: the paperworkers endless or they're not gonna help you. Is all.

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Speaker 1: It is all mouthpiece activity that's going over there. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, from the time I sat down

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Speaker 1: with Tim jeff Co, I've never felt that way about

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00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: the the s p A. And I'm a champion of

807
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: what you guys do over there. With that being in mind, Mark,

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00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: how does one go online or what's some of the

809
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: steps just to qualify that is not complicated? There isn't

810
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: work involved. Isn't just click a button you say, you

811
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: have to do some work and provide information. Correct, That's correct.

812
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Speaker 1: And the best way is, like I said, you can

813
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: go online do it yourself, sir. Online where old mine? Where?

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00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: Where where would that website? You go to SBA dot gov.

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Speaker 1: That's just gonna be and there's gonna be a banner

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Speaker 1: across the top about Hurricane Harvey and said learn here,

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Speaker 1: learn more here, and you click on that button and

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Speaker 1: I'll take you right to the next place. It says

819
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: apply and you click that button. It takes your right

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00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: tire portal to apply online. Okay. Cool. Let me see

821
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Speaker 1: if I remember the homework that Richard put me on

822
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Speaker 1: the mark. Let me see if you can walk back

823
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: to ro Sean remembered everything. Now. Richard told me for

824
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: the homeowners that the interest rate was one point seven correct,

825
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: one point seven five correct. And he told me for

826
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Speaker 1: the small businesses the interest rate was three point three.

827
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Speaker 1: That's correct, okay. He also told me that the length

828
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Speaker 1: of the long was thirty years correct, can be up

829
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Speaker 1: to thirty years. Cool. And he also told me on

830
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Speaker 1: the small businesses that it could be up to two

831
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Speaker 1: million dollars correct, that's correct. And then he also said

832
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Speaker 1: on this homeowners up to two hundred thou correct, that's correct.

833
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Speaker 1: That's for their that's for their real estate, and forty

834
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: for their personal property including vehicles. Because a lot of

835
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: people hear the word small business administration, they don't know

836
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: that there's home recovery opportunities that they can apply for. Correct. Correct.

837
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Speaker 1: And he also told me the big thing right here

838
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Speaker 1: that there is no penalty if you pay off the

839
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Speaker 1: loan early. That's correct, simple interest. No penalties for paying

840
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: off early, no penalties or fees for a playing so

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Speaker 1: you have playing time to decide. You know how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna work and help you mark you let Richard no,

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald has done this hard work. And remember everything

844
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Speaker 1: that he told me, I'm not telling me. Give you

845
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Speaker 1: an A plus. That's you again, man. I appreciate everything

846
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: you guys are doing over there. I'm glad. I enjoyed

847
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: talking to you. I love your personality. But the bigger

848
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: thing we're trying to get out of here is that

849
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: a deadline is coming up October twenty four to apply

850
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: through through FEMA, and it will come through S B A.

851
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: You guys are making yourself available to come down and

852
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: sit down and get these applications, feel out correctly, and

853
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: get the money to the people who needed to recover.

854
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Because small businesses are needed, homeowners are needed because guess what, taxes.

855
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: That's how cities operate. That's how counties operate. They have

856
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: to tax people in order to give you good police service,

857
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: or to get you good schools, or to give you

858
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: services at the airport that that run time, and so

859
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: it's all one big three sixty. So the government needs

860
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: to get this out there and get you on board.

861
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Am I correct, absolutely, and we thank you. I appreciate

862
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: your helping us get the word out, my man. Uh

863
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: tell everybody, Tim, tell Richard and yourself. Man, anytime you

864
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: guys need me, I'll be at holsting to lift off

865
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Houston contest. Uh it's coming up November three. So I'm

866
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm engaged with you guys, and so I will not

867
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: I will not stop champion the Small Business Administration. Okay,

868
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: ain't thank you very much. I appreciate you. I told

869
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: it's a deadline. You heard it right here. Go to

870
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: n SBA dot gov. There's a banner across the top

871
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: that says learned Hurricane Harvey. Let's click it and change

872
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: your life. If your homeowner up to two hi thousand

873
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: dollars one point seven five interests, if you're small business,

874
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: three point three interests, up to two million dollars, thirty

875
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: year long mortgages, no penalty for early payoff. Do it

876
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: right now. We'll be back with more money making conversations.

877
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: My man. The King of weight loss, Dr Ian Smith

878
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: been knowing that. Guys, there's two thousand and seven he

879
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: has been in my life, that's almost ten years. Because

880
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun because I loved the East Sweet

881
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: and he loved and his new book is Last to

882
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Sugar Out, Last to Sugar Out, and I loved East Sweet. Boy.

883
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of like a collision of ignorance right there.

884
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: But we're right back with more money making conversations. Dr

885
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: Ian Smith coming up next. My guess is on the line.

886
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: I got to start talking and interviewing him first of all.

887
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: All right, it was in New York City at their

888
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: Circling Sisters Expo hosted by w BLS every year, just

889
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: a jam pack organization for hard man of women. And

890
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: now he was there. I didn't even know he was there.

891
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Walked by. Of course, every time you walk by him,

892
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: he talking to somebody, and he always has a crowd

893
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: of people around him. I tapped him on the should

894
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: and just kept walking. Wasn't gonna bother him, keep making

895
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: that money. And then I then I finished my photo

896
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: session and I walked in the room and here he

897
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: was on stage talking about five thousand people, just just

898
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: five to every seat was fair and he was on

899
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: stage talking about five to five thousand people. I do

900
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: want to such a stage of who I'm talking to

901
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: him far. This man is a motivator, he's a game

902
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: change and I've been knowing him almost ten years now.

903
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: So let me get this intro in so y'all can

904
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: hear why I'm excited to have him on money Make

905
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: a Conversation. My next dance writes a book a year,

906
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: a book a year. He at the author of the

907
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: number one New York Times best selling books Shred The

908
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: Revolutionary Diet, Super Shred, The Big Results Diet, The Shred

909
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: Diet cook Book. Dr Smith's hilly participated the newest book,

910
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Blast the Sugar Out, became an instant New York Times

911
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: best seller, happing hundreds of thousands of people produce bad

912
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: sugars from that diet, loose weight, little blood, sugar levels

913
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: and cut the cravis. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations.

914
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith. Hey, what's up with Sean? Hey? Man?

915
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear you because you are a

916
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: true go get a man. Well you are too, and

917
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: you know we're all in that orbit. But you know

918
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: when you know when you're blessed and when God has

919
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: blessed you with things and assets and abilities. I think

920
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: it's your obligation to try to pay it forward and

921
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: help others and and have a good time while you're

922
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: doing it. Well, you know, I'm familiar with your style.

923
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with all the way we go, all the

924
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: way back to the fifty million pound challenge which they

925
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: found back two we was in d C and it

926
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: was cold. We launched that giant campaign that was so

927
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: successful and the reason I always a happy on the show,

928
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about the thing that that I want to

929
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: say this correctly. It almost makes you made that people

930
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: are just out there just killing themselves because they don't

931
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: want to understand that necessary and that's what you trying

932
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: to do, trying to get them the tools to a

933
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle. Correct Yeah, well, you know, I do get

934
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: frustrated sometimes. Um luckily not all the time, but I

935
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: do get frustrated. And my frustration is not one where

936
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm upset at people. It's one feeling like if I

937
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: could just get more people to invest in themselves and

938
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: just turn the corner as far as the way they

939
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: think their mentality about the importance of leading just a

940
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: better life. I've never asked for sean for anyone to

941
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: eat perfectly, or to move perfectly, or to be perfect.

942
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: That's not what my messages. My messages. If you do

943
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: a few things just a little better, then they can

944
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: drastically proved not just the quality of your life, but

945
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: the length of your life. Now, Now, when I was

946
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: in New York and I'm seeing you on stage, you know,

947
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: and you're you're talking to like five thousand people in

948
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: this room, and like I said, it was not a

949
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: seat empty. People are standing against the walls listening to

950
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: you talk. When you're talking to a room that be

951
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: not everybody is understanding your message, and some of them

952
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: don't even know why they listen to what you have

953
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: to say. How do you take a room that b

954
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: and and and and craft your narrative so they can

955
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: understand that look at here, You're just there to provide

956
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: information and an opportunity for longer and better life. Correct. Yeah,

957
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: you know that's a good question. And when I'm in

958
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: a room of that size, of that many people, I

959
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: really focus on one or two people. I don't feel

960
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: like I'm talking to a whole room. I really try

961
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: to make that intimate connection with one or two people.

962
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: So I'll look people, I'll find people in the audience

963
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: and connect with them and I and I'm talking to

964
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: them directly, and everyone else is kind of ease dropping

965
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: on that conversation. And that allows me to a like

966
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: I am engaged. Uh. That allows me to get that

967
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: kind of connection. And you speak to a lot of

968
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: artists too. You know, it's important to be able to

969
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: read the temperature of the room. And that's important because

970
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: you want to get the head nodder. You know what

971
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The people who pointed you know, when you're

972
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: looking what they're smiling at you. I come back there

973
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: you go, there you go, doc. See see I thought, doctor.

974
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: We've been sitting in my office. We've laughed, man, We've

975
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: been sweet laughing because see, what I want to take

976
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: away from this show is that like I had the

977
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: doctor alt the Ragling on the show. Successful for doctors

978
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: out of New York City and d C Y very

979
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: popular foot surgeon. And it's personality. Man. You know you

980
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: write all these books, but in the end, man, you're

981
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: not controlling five thousand people unless you have a personality. Correct. Well, yeah,

982
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: and I think that you know one of the reasons

983
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: why I got into television, Um was because I felt

984
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: it though I wanted to be more than just a

985
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: doctor in the white coat, because doctors are people too.

986
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, we got bills to pay, We'd like to

987
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: go to the movie. You know, we like the ball game.

988
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: So I think that my me being able to take

989
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: off the white coat and being able to relate to

990
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: people on their level and about issues that are important

991
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: to them has been really, really rewarding to me, and

992
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: hopefully along the way I helped a few people. Now

993
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: here's when I when I'm reading this book and now

994
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: I've read several of your books in the past, and

995
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you because he's been on talk shows

996
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: with me or my talk show radio shows, or I

997
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: have to know when people come on the show what

998
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: they're talking about, so I can be able to make

999
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: sure Steve on Steven and Steve Harvey knew what was

1000
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: talking about. So when I say I've read some of

1001
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: the books and path, I'm telling you the honest truth now.

1002
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: But this book felt a little more personal because you

1003
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: talk about your twin brother, okay, and then you also

1004
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: talk about you know, I believe your grandmother correct, yes,

1005
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: and and how this changed her life. So there are

1006
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: two different age groups that you're discussing in this book,

1007
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: and then you know you're also talking younger. But those

1008
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: were specific to me, and I never heard you talk

1009
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: like that in your books. So was this a more

1010
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: personable book to you? Yeah, it definitely was more personal. Uh.

1011
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: You know the tile the book is called Last the

1012
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: Sugar Out, And I decided this year that I was

1013
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: going to take on sugar for several reasons. One because

1014
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: sugar is everywhere. Manufacturers are putting sugars in our foods unnecessarily.

1015
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Now Listen, I like sweet things as much as the

1016
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: next person. So I'm not trying to say get rid

1017
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: of sugar or leminated. I'm saying we need to reduce

1018
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: the amount of excess added sugars that are doing nothing

1019
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: to us. And my brother, ironically, my twin brother, I

1020
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: happened to be writing this book and here I were

1021
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: just in the conversation list in l A. We were

1022
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: just talking on the phone and he was just telling

1023
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: me how much better he felt. I said, why do

1024
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: you feel so so good? He said, well, I cut

1025
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: sugar out. And I couldn't believe it. Here I was

1026
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: writing a book about reducing sugar, and here he was

1027
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: doing it, and neither one of us that communicate to

1028
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: each other that we were both attacking the same thing

1029
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. But you know what's interesting is I learned

1030
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: from his experience, and I incorporated in my introduction, is

1031
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: that he said that it's not that he was feeling bad,

1032
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: but he was feeling slugging. She's a Brason runner. He

1033
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling like himself. And then he realized on his

1034
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: own that he was eating too much sugar. That sugar

1035
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: was everything. And so you know that in combination with

1036
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: my grandmother who was diagnosed with type two diabetes, uh

1037
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: and their sixty and I was a medical student at first,

1038
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: your medical student at the time, and you know when

1039
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: I went home for spring for semester break, you know,

1040
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: I really worked with her, trying to change how she

1041
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: ate and how she moved. My grandmother even joined the gym.

1042
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: So here you can imagine a six some of your

1043
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: old black woman from the South who's never been in

1044
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: gym in her life. You know, I had I had

1045
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: her in the gym, working out and stuff like that.

1046
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: But here's the good news, though, two weeks later she

1047
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: went to her doctor. Her doctor said, what have you

1048
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: been doing? And she said, why do you say that?

1049
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna have to cut your medications, your

1050
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: diabetes medications and half because your blood sugars have dropped precipitously.

1051
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: And she said, well, my grandson has to eat a

1052
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: little better and I'm exercising. And that was way back

1053
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: to the day that I learned that, And so when

1054
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: I wrote this book, I wanted that to be my

1055
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: guiding spirit about how I can talk to people on

1056
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: their level about how small changes can yield big differences.

1057
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: And that's really funny. Did you say that because I

1058
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: was I was doing because I was doing the money

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00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: making conversations a seminar at W. B. L Elis, And

1060
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: I told people that your your whole goal in life

1061
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: is for your resume and the things that you hyper

1062
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: about yourself to become one that where you understand your future.

1063
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: And I say, in order to understand your future, you

1064
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: have to look in your past, because as the foundation

1065
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: and information that you've actually gained up being given in

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: your past that was set forth economic money making the

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: conversations for you in the future. And you just answered

1068
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: that question right there. You said It's something that you

1069
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: knew about when you and with your grandmother. Now you

1070
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: now that kind of like the light bulb went off,

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00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, And you know what

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00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: essentially said that, because you talk about economic paths, and

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very blessed now and I'm in a

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: great position in life. But like everyone else, I had

1075
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: economic issues like anybody else, by the way, and I

1076
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: learned a valuable lesson many many years ago when I

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00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: had spent more than I you know, owned, and when

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I was making and found myself and you know, like

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: everyone does, and I found myself in a very very

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00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: precarious situation. And I'll never forget that day. It was

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: the middle of the day and I was wiped out

1082
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: and I said, to God, I've looked this at the truth.

1083
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: I got all my need I live in New York City,

1084
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: the epreast side. I got all my needs and said

1085
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: to the Lord, if you help me get out of

1086
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: this financial depocle that I'm in right now, I will

1087
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: never ever ever return to it. I will pay my

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: bills on time, I will not overspend. And I made

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00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: this commitment to him, And I'm telling you guys, my

1090
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: witness two weeks later. Two weeks later, I got a

1091
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: check in the mail for twenty five thousand dollars from Germany.

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00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea why I got this check. This

1093
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: this is the truth. It's crazy. Was shot. And what

1094
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: happened was I had written the book that did not

1095
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: sell in the US. But someone saw the manuscript and

1096
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: the and the book market in Germany and they bought it.

1097
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to me, they bought it, and so I didn't

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00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: know that Soul and then being sold in Germany. And

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: here I got this check for twenty five thousan dollars.

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: And I know, I hear the first thing I did,

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I said the guys, I'm a George. I told you

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna do it. I give all that money

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00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: to all that money. I kept five hundred dollars in

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00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: the bank for myself, took the rest of twenty five

1105
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and paid off my debt, like I told

1106
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 1: him I was gonna do. And I've been straight every since.

1107
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: But that's but the thing about it is that you said,

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: you asked, and then you did. A lot of people

1109
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: get it, and they go, well, you know, you know,

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna change the plan just a little bit,

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00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: but you can't change playing a little bit. No, No,

1112
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: you gotta say truth to the game. You gotta say

1113
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: truth to the gain, absolutely and and that's the that's

1114
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. And and so so you know,

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00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna do two breaks there, doc So,

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: but I wanted to, you know, let my listener on it.

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: And guess what, we know, we we we you you're

1118
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: back in the Rashan McDonald family now, so you know,

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: just over the first time and the last time you're

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01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna be on my show. It's heard on you know,

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Speaker 1: my I part's holding in the Houston, Texas of course,

1122
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: but also I Party, I have a podcast on radio,

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: so you know millions of people listening to this as well.

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: So my whole thing with you is that, you know,

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: just watching your brand, like I said to know somebody

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01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: teen years, you know, you've seen a journey and I'm

1127
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: not saying your journey is over with and now you

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: own right to rate tell me about that. Well, it's great.

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01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: So you know they called me, uh this is my

1130
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: ninth season with them. They called me randomly and said

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01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: would you come on and do some segments with us?

1132
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: And I said sure, and that was the executive producer

1133
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: you know about that, and the et brought me in

1134
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: and we have just had a tremendous relationship. I am

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: her head medical contributor. I'm also like cost but here

1136
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: also so I'm on the show where her right con

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: show where her. It's just a great relationship. She's great.

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: In fact, you gotta come on the show. She's great.

1139
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: We have a good time. I'm flying out there today

1140
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: to do a segment and if your posish, but it's

1141
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: really a good shows, a lot of fun and uh,

1142
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed it. I enjoy it. Let's let's get talking.

1143
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your book now, because we're gonna talk

1144
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: about you book, but first you gotta talk about Rashwan

1145
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: in this book. I gotta let you know who you're

1146
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: talking to because your cattle Blast Sugar Out is so

1147
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: funny that I'm talking to you now. You're talking to

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01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: a guy who when he goes out to eat in

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: the restaurant, I ordered my dessert before my meal. Okay,

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: that's one too. If you pick up my phone right

1151
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: now and you went through my apps, I have the

1152
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: Crispy Cream Hotlight app so that means that I pressed

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: that button. It tells me wherever I'm at in the

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: country that has the Crispa cree and the hot light

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01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: is own. They hot and guess what you're board? Do

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: I pull over? I pull over. I'm just letting you know.

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: Dr I am crazy about my sweets. Now my wife

1158
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: would tell you this, Uh, butter pecans my ice cream. Now,

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go, but see you blue

1160
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Bell ice cream from Texas not blue Bell ice cream.

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: I will eat a half gallon of ice cream in

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01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: a week. Now, I will eat that in a week.

1163
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: So so when you when you write a book called

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: Blasted Sugar Out, you and me got to talk because

1165
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly what your brother was feeling, because whenever

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: I get off of sugar man, I feel bad. I

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: will because every because, like in the first quarter of

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: every year, I go on a non sweet diet, a

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01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: non salt diet, and I lose about anywhere from fifteen pounds.

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. I was diagnosed with cancer,

1171
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: successfully went through surgery. It was pyroar and I've been

1172
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: given a clean bill of hell three years ago. So

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: I do look at my health now. But I wanted

1174
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: to tell you exactly who you talking to the story

1175
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: talking about your book in the next break, So you

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01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: want to go because people always go, well, he's he

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01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: looked healthy, He's he probably eat good all the time. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't know. And so before we

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: go to the next break, what do you say to

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01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: idiots like me that that out there and just got

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: a Crispy Cree hotlight app on his phone. Before we

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: eat a meal in a restaurant, he all just deserts.

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: He eats a half a gallon of blue Bell butter

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01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: become ice cream in a week? What did you say

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: to people like me? Dude? Well, first, the first day

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01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: I would say to you is that you're not an idiot,

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01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: because there's the people are addicted to week and I

1188
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: was addicted to and I got I got fifteen thousand

1189
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: people who are on our Facebook page is called sugar Blasters,

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: and these guys all share the same thing you talk about.

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: And you know what, the average weight loss for experiencing

1192
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: is twenty down in five weeks on the program. So

1193
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: you're not an idiot. You're like everybody else. And I'll

1194
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: tell you this before we go done it. By the way,

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01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: has less added sugar in it than a coke or

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01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: a snaffle. I too. You know something we're gonna talk

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01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: about when they get back, about lemonade, you know in

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: the restaurant to give you all you can drink and

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Speaker 1: we free refills. We're gonna talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: come back, right back. We're gonna be more. My man,

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: I love you, man. I'm so happy you called them. Brother.

1202
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna have We're gonna do this. Last Last cigar

1203
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: Out is the name of the book. He's traveling to

1204
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: New York to do another episode of Rachel Ray. We

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: were back with more of Dr e n Jack N. Smith,

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01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: number one New York Times best selling author Shred, but

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: last the siguar Out. This is New Buk. We're right

1208
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: back for more money making conversations. Hi, this is Sean McDonald.

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm back. You're host of money Making Conversations on the phone.

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: I have Dr Ian Smith, longtime relationship over ten years,

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: co host of the nationally syndicated Rachel Ratio and then

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: New York Times. I'm just talking about he owns New

1213
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller Shred. Uh, we'll talk about that a

1214
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: little bit. But what we don't show to talk about

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: right now. It's this new book called Blast to Sugar Out.

1216
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: And already told Alur maybe my confessions about who I

1217
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: was and who he was talking to, and he said,

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: ra Sean, don't feel bad. There are a lot of

1219
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: people out of you. That's why I wrote this book. Now,

1220
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about that book, this book without you know,

1221
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: you talk about books. You gotta be able to talk

1222
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: about the book, but not give away the books, so

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: people go buy the book. Tell us about Blast to

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01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: Sugar Out. So and so. This book basically is a

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01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: book that helps people reduce the amount of circus that

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01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: they're consuming. It doesn't ask them to eliminate, it doesn't

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: ask them to eat perfectly. It's regular food. By the way,

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01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: when you go, every day is spelled out for you

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: five weeks. The average weight loss is up to twenty

1230
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: pounds in five weeks. But it's regular food, so you know,

1231
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: day one, day two, all the way through the end.

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01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: People can buy this and grocery stores anywhere near them

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be gourmet. This is a book that

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: the whole family can do. I have families for doing

1235
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: this together because their foods that kids eat and adults eat.

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Speaker 1: This is something I want your listeners to really take away. Sir. First,

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: you have to know how much you're eating, how much

1238
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: sugar you're eating. And this is how you figure it out.

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01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: When you see the numbers on the back of a label,

1240
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: the grams of sugar. You divide that number by four.

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: The number you get as a result of that division

1242
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: is how many teaspoons are in one serving of that product.

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01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: So it it says, for example, that the soda has

1244
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: sixty five grams of sugar, which, by the way, a

1245
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: twenty ounce bottle of of of Cola can do that

1246
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: sixty five grams of sugar. You divide that by four.

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01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: That's almost sixteen teaspoons of sugar and that one bottom

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: m hm. This is very important for people to listen. Son.

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Take the number on the back of the label of

1250
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: grams of sugar divided by four. The number you get

1251
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: is how many teaspoons you are consuming and one serving

1252
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: of that product. M Because the reason is important because

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01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: to see when I do gain weight, Doc, it's when

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01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: I am I'm a big water drinker. When I go

1255
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: to at home, I drink waiters are waitresses. They just

1256
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: look at me. Go for real dude, I would just

1257
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: drink water water field please, I mean big glasses of water.

1258
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: And so I just love water and and so sometimes

1259
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: I go in a restaurant and they say free lemonade refields. Okay,

1260
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: then I'm sitting up there drinking four to five glasses

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: of lemonade. And that's just like what you just say,

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm just drinking. I'm just eating teaspoons of sugar when

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, correct. Yeah, absolutely, And if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do that, by the way, just as a tip. I

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Speaker 1: like lemonade too, by the way, But what I do

1266
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: when I go to a restaurant get lemonade, I then

1267
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: take my water and I dilute it so that it

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01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: reduces the concentration of a sugar that's in there. So

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: I diluted. So that's one thing people can do. But

1270
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Speaker 1: when it comes to soda, the studies show that the

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: number one source of excess or added sugars come from

1272
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: sugary drinks like soda. So I people, the first thing

1273
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: you should do is this. If you drink let's just

1274
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: say six cans, some people do, by the way, six

1275
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: cans or soda the course of the day, divide it

1276
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: in half. Okay, so reduce it down the three cans,

1277
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: and then for the other three that you're taking away,

1278
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: drink some carbonated or seltzer water and then squeeze some

1279
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: shitchs in it, some lime or some lemon to give

1280
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: you a little kick. But that is a that's something

1281
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: you can do right away to cut down on some

1282
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: of these excess sires. Because my wife she does decarbonated water.

1283
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: I n she come on me. I said, oh no, no,

1284
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: don't no, your boy, don't do that. I'm gonna ride

1285
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: this one outlet. See, here's the funny point about I'm

1286
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: hearing all your advice, but I'm kind of like, Okay,

1287
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm fighting it. I'm fighting it. But you're telling the

1288
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: truth though, you know, like dilute that good, that good lemonade.

1289
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: He wants me to dilute that good, that good Chick

1290
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: fil A lemonade. You want me to dilute that chickfilades good?

1291
01:08:53,320 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Be honest with your honestly hour, Go forget

1292
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: the sandwich. I give me a large lemonade, and I

1293
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: give me a large waffle five hop in my car.

1294
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't even catch up. They asked me for sauces

1295
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: and men. Y'all don't know who you're talking to. Get

1296
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: my womade and my five and I'm a food that

1297
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: the duty. That's why I know I gotta get you back,

1298
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: because see, I want to bring this side. I think

1299
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: through humor, through personality, people are listening more because we're

1300
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 1: not asking people to suddenly become boring. You're not asking

1301
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: people to say, hey, man, whoa whoa boa do this? Man,

1302
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: I gotta change my luck. I can't watch TV no more.

1303
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing. I can't eat good food no more.

1304
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: That's not the true you're talking about. Hey, you want

1305
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: people understand what's the different between brown sugar versus white sugar? Why?

1306
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: There's why when you use honey the advantages and with

1307
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: that transition, tell people the difference between brown sugar and

1308
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: white sugar. And when you see, you know these different alternatives,

1309
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: they're are listed in your books. They're are listed in

1310
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: great detail in your book. Yeah, let me break it down.

1311
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: So brown sugar and white sugar from a nutritional standpoint,

1312
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: there is no difference. And that's what people don't understand.

1313
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: Marketers and manufacturers and advertisers have done such a great

1314
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: job of leading the public to believe that because it

1315
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: says raw sugar or brown sugar that it's healthier. The

1316
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: only thing making the sugar brown is that it has

1317
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: molasses on it, and so sugar typically the regular cane sugar,

1318
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: natural cane sugar is brown because of the molasses. And

1319
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: what typically happens is through the through the process of

1320
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: processing sugar, we then remove the molasses, we crystallize the

1321
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: sugar cubes, and we get this this white crystal. This

1322
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: not fine white crystal. So when people say, well, brown

1323
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: sugar is better, no no, no, no, no. Brown sugar

1324
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: and white sugar have the same nutritional value. But if

1325
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: you want to try something different, you should try something

1326
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: like organic stevia. Stevia comes from the stevia plant. It's

1327
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: very sweet, sometimes sweeter than sugar, but just make sure

1328
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: it's organic because sometimes manufactured or put a lot of

1329
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: other chemicals in a mixed stevia product. The other thing

1330
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: to try is honey. Honey fantastic. Yes, honey still is sweet.

1331
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: Honey does have some calories in it, but honey also

1332
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: has other good nutritional values to it outside of the sweetness.

1333
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: So the book goes through all the different types of sweeteners.

1334
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: It talks about artificial sweeteners. I am not a fan

1335
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: of artificial sweeteners because the word artificial to me means process,

1336
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: means it could be damaging to your body. The studies

1337
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: are mixed right now as to whether or not their

1338
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: long term consequences. But I'd rather have a little bit

1339
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: of the real stuff. They take the artificial stuff that's

1340
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: been created in a lab. And I've just talked about

1341
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: this honey right quick. I'm a big pancake guy, you know.

1342
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: I go to crack a barrel. Let me tell you something.

1343
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: Them become pancakes that they throw out the back of

1344
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: that kitchen and put up that I give by three

1345
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: or four of them, and I do it up right.

1346
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: I accidentally put honey on my pancakes. And I would

1347
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: have never I would have never ever put honey on

1348
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: my pancakes. I can. I grabbed that maple syrup, my friend,

1349
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: gotta be thick, you know, put a little better old top,

1350
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: and I put it on that on those pancake. And

1351
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: I looked at my wife, I go, what's that. She's like,

1352
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: You're eating hone echo. Wow, It's pretty cool, pretty good, right,

1353
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good. It's pretty good, and so so I

1354
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: say that to say that we will tell ourselves, we

1355
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: will deny ourselves before even trying because I accidentally tried honey,

1356
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: it's changing my diet. Rashan, you have hit on such

1357
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: an important point, not just about food but life in general,

1358
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: about particularly when I talked to African Americans, as I say,

1359
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: you guys, don't say no yet based on the name

1360
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: of it or based on the comfort, give it a try,

1361
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: and people get surprised that once they try something they

1362
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: thought they would never like, say, well, I don't want

1363
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: to eat that keen? What's that keen? Walk? Then people

1364
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: try it in a dish like what is this? I'm like,

1365
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: that's keen hummas, I'm not gonna eat any hummus. They

1366
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: try some hummus, They're like, whoa, this is good? What

1367
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: is this hums? So one of the thing I try

1368
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: to do all my books. The book has more than

1369
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: forty recipes that has all kinds of snacks in there.

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01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: What I try to do with my books is to

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: open up people's palate to try something they have to

1372
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: tried before. And I think that that's why I'm so

1373
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: happy to have you on the show because I'm that person.

1374
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm that person. I'm gonna in some cases the extreme because,

1375
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think everybody rolling around with

1376
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: a with a Crispy krean hotlight app on there and

1377
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: it supposed to be one of these polished professionals. You

1378
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I gotta do and probably used it.

1379
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: On Saturday when I landed in Atlantic, landed at nine o'clock,

1380
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: hit that app light was all drove over. There has

1381
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: some has some blueberry cake donbnuts coming down the line

1382
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: and had the classic glaze. I said, give me six blaze,

1383
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: give me too blueberry, and give me some two percent

1384
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: milk your milk right and that, And that's the beauty

1385
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: of of of doing it right and doing it wrong.

1386
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: But in the process of hearing and reading your book,

1387
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, guys, read this book. He's let

1388
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: me know. Okay, there's a five week program. Let's talk

1389
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: about that five week program and the first week of

1390
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: getting started, let's talk about that. So it's five weeks,

1391
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: every days stared out for you. So breakfast, snacks, launch, snack,

1392
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: dinner with optional snack, all those things are laid out

1393
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: for you with options. So if you're someone who doesn't

1394
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: eat fish or meat or your vegetarians, there are enough

1395
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: options you can swap in it out very easily. There's

1396
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: also some exercise, so I give you some exercises you

1397
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: can do. By the way, I never asked you to

1398
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: work out for an hour in the gym. You don't

1399
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: need work out for an hour in the gym. In fact,

1400
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: mostly exercise you don't need a gym to be able

1401
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: to complete them. So every day you will get your

1402
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: meal plan, and if it's an exercise day, there are

1403
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: rest days. If it's an exercise day, I'll give you

1404
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: a suggestive amount of exercise and some exercises to do,

1405
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: and you go day by day by that and what happens.

1406
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: What you don't really, if you don't realize, is that

1407
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: they don't have to count calories in my program. Nothing.

1408
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: Why do you have to be able to measure or

1409
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: look at something like if I say a cup or

1410
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: half a cup, that's all you gotta do. But the

1411
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: idea is this, over the course of five weeks, I'm

1412
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: slowly weaning you off of excess circus. I'm not taking

1413
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: you off this completely, by the way, I'm just lowering

1414
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: it down. And the reason why I do it gradly

1415
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: is because if you stop consuming sugar cold turkey. Hello,

1416
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: we lost him? Cool, Well he just dropped off. About

1417
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: to go through that big ending and then he just

1418
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: dropped off. Okay, cool, let me just wrap this over

1419
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: real quick. Dr Yn Smith was basically what he's saying

1420
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: is that in this book The Blaster Sugar Out, his

1421
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 1: brother did that. He dropped cold turkey and it just

1422
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: really affected his body. So he's talking from a lane

1423
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: of experience, a lane of understanding that you can't do anything.

1424
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: And I've done that. I've just stopped, you know, just

1425
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: stopped you those doughnuts that you've heard me talk about

1426
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: for the last thirty minutes on the air with dr

1427
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: Yn Smith. All these things I've done and guess what

1428
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: is not good? To do it that way? You have

1429
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: to have a plan, you have to have a process.

1430
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: You have to be able to talk to people to

1431
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: be able to say this is how it is supposed

1432
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: to be done. And that's what Dr N Smith is saying.

1433
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: Dr N Smith is saying right now? Is he back

1434
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: on the line, Doctor, You're back. You're about the end

1435
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: that you you you you rolling up to a big

1436
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: moment and then you then you left me, so I

1437
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: was saying. So I'm saying, what happens is that every

1438
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: day you don't go through the withdrawal because I slowly

1439
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: reduced your sugar and you don't have that rebound that

1440
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: people do who cut off cold turkey, and you don't

1441
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: have those urges because you're still getting sugar us not

1442
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: too much. And that's really important because, like I was saying,

1443
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: in your book, you talk about your twin brother who

1444
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: did that, and I really made him miserable, you know,

1445
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: made him made his days longer, and his energy was

1446
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: bad because he did that and and and not he

1447
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: stopped cold turkey. And that's not small. You know, we're

1448
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: not trying. You know this ain't buy no drug. You

1449
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: know you're over there guard. You know. It's just about

1450
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: just about slowing it down. And I've done the cold

1451
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: Turkey thing, cold turkey too, And what happens is I

1452
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: would start vibrating. You know, I'll get nervous a lot

1453
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: because my nervous jittery, jittery. So I know for a

1454
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: fact what he's saying. That's why it's important to buy

1455
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: this book, is it tells you how to do it correctly.

1456
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: He's trying to wean you all, trying to not drastically

1457
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: change your diet, but educate you and change your diet

1458
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: so you can learn and then feel comfortable and strong

1459
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: every day. Dr Smith, it's been amazing, man. I appreciate

1460
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: you coming on the show. Any any part in words

1461
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: where you get out of here, my friend. Absolutely, I

1462
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: want to say this. And plus Americans who are type

1463
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: two diabetics, there are eighty six million Americans who are

1464
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,879
Speaker 1: pre diabetic. I mean they're on the verge of diabetes.

1465
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: With my plan Blast to Sugar Out, we were able

1466
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: to reduce people's blood sugars by thirty percent. People are

1467
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: coming off of their their medications. They are preventing diabetes

1468
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: from happening. So this is not just a book for diabetics.

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Speaker 1: This is a book for all of us, myself included,

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Speaker 1: because all of us are eating too much sugar. We

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Speaker 1: you do that, life will never be the same. Join

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Speaker 1: me on social media. On Instagram it's at Dr Ian

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Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith d r I A. N. Smith. And

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Speaker 1: our Facebook group is called sugar Blasters. I love you, man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, man, and good luck. On Rachel Rador's weekday.

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Speaker 1: We're talking soon. I'm telling them sending the links so

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Speaker 1: we can post you on our money Making Conversations Facebook

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Speaker 1: page and Twitter account. Let's get the word out. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk soon, man, and good luck. Hi. This is Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Sean mcdown. I'm gonna host of money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations to show where I interviewed industry decision makers, CEO's,

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Speaker 1: small businesses and celebrities. They tell you about the secrets

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Speaker 1: to success. My next case, he's on the line. Correct, awesome,

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Speaker 1: Ready to bring him right up. I'm a fan. He

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Speaker 1: don't even know that because I'm a big fan of his.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a very just a very popular

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Speaker 1: seeing in political contributor and hopefully of the recurring CNN

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Speaker 1: Prime Time special The Messy Truth. He's a new book

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Speaker 1: autum Beyond the Messy Truth, How we come apart, How

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Speaker 1: we came apart, and how we come together. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. Van Jones, My man, I know

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Speaker 1: I've had you on my radio show with Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 1: Several times, and I appreciate you calling it on my

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Speaker 1: show because I'm big fan of Big Fan, Big Fan,

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Speaker 1: And I read the book and let's let's uh, but

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Speaker 1: before we get into the book, let's talk about you.

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Speaker 1: You know, your growth as a as a brand, your

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Speaker 1: growth as a person that because he kind of like,

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Speaker 1: was similar when Steve and I was in New York

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01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five and I thought, I started

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Speaker 1: seeing you more and more on TV, growing as a

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Speaker 1: brand and creating a voice out there. What was the

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: goal when? When? When when individuals were bringing you on

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: the on TV asking your opinions, was there a goal

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Speaker 1: behind it? Or you just taking advantage of the media opportunity. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been a committed justice activists for twenty

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Speaker 1: five years or more. I was born in rural West Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on the edge of a small town.

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Speaker 1: I wound up going to Yale for law school, so

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Speaker 1: that was a big leap. I was the first want

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Speaker 1: of my family to go to a law school in

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Speaker 1: any Ivy League institution. And when I got out in

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Speaker 1: the early nineties and police brutality was off the hook,

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Speaker 1: prison boom was going down. They were doubling the number

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Speaker 1: of people behind bars and destroying our communities. And so

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Speaker 1: I spent ten fifteen years on the front lines as

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Speaker 1: an activist with a law degree, trying to do something

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Speaker 1: about police brutality. We we wound up closing some youth

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Speaker 1: prisons and um and and creating some job programs for

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Speaker 1: young people, especially in the solar industry. And that's how

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Speaker 1: I wound up working for President Obama as his special

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Speaker 1: advisor on green jobs and clean energy. And when the

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Speaker 1: right wing came after me for having been such a

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Speaker 1: left wing radical in my in my past, um, I

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01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: wound up as many people do when they leave government.

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Speaker 1: I wound up showing up on TV a little bit

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Speaker 1: and wound up with what they roll at CNN, right.

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Speaker 1: And with that, with that being said, you know your

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Speaker 1: fantastic role, and I've seen you. Now this to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking some just some artists, coution observational question. I

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Speaker 1: got cautious. I'm gonna ask you about the book and

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Speaker 1: things like that, because I've read the book. But I

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Speaker 1: gotta ask observational question because I when I see an

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Speaker 1: individual like it, because you're such a passionate guy. You are,

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: You're one of these guys who wears your feelings on

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Speaker 1: your sleeve, as they say, correct because I see it now.

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: Is that good or bad? Well? Um, it depends. Um

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think we live in an era

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Speaker 1: where credibility used to be the most important thing, but

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Speaker 1: now I think authenticity is the most important things. And

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Speaker 1: you know Hillary Clinton was very credible that many people

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01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: didn't think that she was authentic enough. Uh. Donald Trump

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: completely not credible. But he's an authentic If you're gonna

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: be a fool, he's an authentic fool, consistent about it.

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Speaker 1: Because so you know I am. You know, what you

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Speaker 1: see with me is what you get. I love my people,

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Speaker 1: I love all oppressed mistreated people. I'm not a Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party hack. And the Democrats are wrong. I won't call

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Speaker 1: them wrong. And the Republicans get something right every now

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Speaker 1: and again. I'll get them them some credit too. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know I can't. I can't be something. I'm not

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01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: the interesting thing. When the when the idea of coming

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: on my show, because my show is about its money

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01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: making conversations about entrepreneurship about it and it's not a

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: political show. And and so I all wanted to get

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Speaker 1: that clear of my staff. But then when he sent

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Speaker 1: me the book, I'm gonna read this quote that you

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Speaker 1: had that let me know that I had to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show. And this is a Nelson Mandela

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Speaker 1: quote that's in his book, and it reads, I have

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Speaker 1: fought against white domination, this is said by Nelson Mandela,

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Speaker 1: and have fought against black domination. I have cherished the

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Speaker 1: ideal of democratic and free society in which all persons

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Speaker 1: live together in harmony and will equal opportunities. It is

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Speaker 1: an idea which I hope to live for and to achieve,

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Speaker 1: but if needs be, is an ideal for which I

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Speaker 1: am prepared to die. That was stated by Nelson Mandela

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Speaker 1: on trial facing possible execution, April twenty four. That quote,

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Speaker 1: to me, let me know. This is a book not

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Speaker 1: trying to blast one side, not trying to blast the

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Speaker 1: other side, but trying to say, I'm gonna tell both

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Speaker 1: sides of the story and then then here's a plan

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Speaker 1: that we can come together. Is that correct? Well, you

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Speaker 1: said a better than I can say for myself. If

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Speaker 1: that really is um. The purpose of my book is

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Speaker 1: called Beyond the Messy Truth. How we came apart and

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Speaker 1: how we come together, and you know, it's tough love

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Speaker 1: for both political parties because you know, even even though

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm anti Trump, um, you know, the Democrats have

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01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: not been perfect by any stretch, and we have to

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Speaker 1: really look in the mirror and you know, across the

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Speaker 1: board to figure out how we can do something. A

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Speaker 1: whole third of the book is nothing but resources, um.

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Speaker 1: You know, books, documentaries, organizations. You can join, left or right, Republican, Democrat, black, white, white,

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Speaker 1: or Latino, um, because we all just have to get

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Speaker 1: me more involved. We need better conservatives, we need better

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Speaker 1: progressive We need you know, we need everybody to to

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Speaker 1: up level because the direction that we're headed in is

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01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 1: so negative and so nasty. We gotta messed around not

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Speaker 1: even have a country. And that's very true. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's why we read they quote because you know,

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Speaker 1: because some people can you know that, because because the

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: media paints their pictures. You know, boxes over here got

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Speaker 1: this point of view. And everybody over there is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be news at CNN and supposed to be anti

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Speaker 1: Trump over CNN, they will not. But your book, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to everybody who listened to the show shows also

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Speaker 1: heard on our heart radio podcast as well to millions

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Speaker 1: of other people. But I wanted to let everybody know

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Speaker 1: that this quote is the first thing they caught my attention.

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Speaker 1: And then when I went through the book and when

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Speaker 1: you did an example of the liberal family and you

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Speaker 1: did an example of the conservative family, it was it

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Speaker 1: really laid the picture about you kind of say, this

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Speaker 1: is why we got in trouble. You know, this is

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01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: this would lead to this problem if you if you

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: upset by why Trump won this election, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what happened. And that's what you laid the groundwork.

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01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: You you kind of like, this is what happened, so

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Speaker 1: before you get mad and act like it was by accident,

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: the groundwork was laid, you know, when the housing crisis

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Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight, you know the groundworker lad

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01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: when you know when Bill Clinton was in office and

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Speaker 1: he was baby in Wall Street and then he was

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Speaker 1: turning around creating these prison system where it just just

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Speaker 1: put an African American man in jail. And that's really

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Speaker 1: what you were talking to. You know, you talk about

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Speaker 1: Ralf Nato, you talk about how the impact of Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders was he was he another version of Raf Nader.

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Speaker 1: Way back then, and all. This was just a really

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Speaker 1: not so much a complex version, but a good read

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01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: that really enlightened me but also confirmed a lot of

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01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: things that I knew. But here and here, and you

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01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: write it in such great detail and what's such great

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01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: passion and motion. I was uplifted by your book, my friend. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And you know when when I wrote

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Speaker 1: the book, and know, it's called Beyond the Messy Truth

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01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: um for a reason, you know, because the truth is

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: messy if you really anytime somebody come and tell you

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Speaker 1: a story and it's all they're perfect, and everything they

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01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 1: did was correct, and there's other person. Man, they just

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01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: the devil. You know they're lying because you never you know,

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: the truth is always messy. It's always well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could have done this, but she didn't have to

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Speaker 1: do that. And you know, well sure, you know, I

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Speaker 1: wish I had and said this now, but I did,

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01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: and then we stuck with that. But but then then

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Speaker 1: they did this. Now somebody is telling you the truth

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01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: because it's messy, they're putting their mess on the table

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01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: well as the other person's math. And that's and and

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01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: that's what I just feel like we need more of

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01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: that well, you know, that's that they were messy. That's

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01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: that's that's the neighborhood turn. You're just missy. You're just

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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: always up in somebody's face. Man, mess messy, MESSI messy.

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Speaker 1: That's why I really that's why I knew you from

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Speaker 1: the South, you know, Jackson, Jackson Tendnessee South because we

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01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: used to worry messy. But but when people see it

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01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: out there, that that the urban spin on messy is

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: basically what you're talking about. This is the adjective. It's

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: how people just take what they want to say and

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: how they spin it and use it to their advantage.

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01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 1: That's not what this book is about. This book is

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01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: an information book, and I just want to sell my

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01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: side because you know, I can let you come on

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01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: the show and you can talk about at certain levels.

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01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: But they also got to know that I read the

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Speaker 1: book and how it affected me. I think that's important. Man.

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Speaker 1: Well look, I appreciate that, and I hope that people

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Speaker 1: who are listening will um, you know, we'll we'll get

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Speaker 1: this local order this book. We'll find this book beyond

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01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: the messy truth because there's so much upset. People are

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01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: just upset. I know people I think. They get up

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: in the morning, they look at their phone and then

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Speaker 1: they look at you know, well he, you know, Donald

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01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: Trump tweeted this, and then they spend the whole day

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01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: just miserable and mad and they do. What they don't

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01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: understand is that's a part of his plan and his

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: strategy to keep everybody distracted and divided. And the problem

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01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: is not that we have you know, too many bad

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01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: people doing bad things. We have too many good people,

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01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: millions and millions, tens of millions more good people who

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01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: just don't know what to do at all. And that's

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: the real problem is that we're trying to empower people.

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01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: And you know, I know this show is for people

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01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: who are looking to make money. Part of the thing

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to say at the outset was that

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01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: you need a stable political and legal environment to make money.

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01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: Democracies can fail, and whenever you've seen a failed state

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01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: or failed democracy, you nobody's making me money except maybe

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01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: the arms, you know, dealers. But you know, what we

1683
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: have to do is to be whole people. We need

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01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: to be you know, making money. We need to be

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01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: making a difference as well. We need to be good

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01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: consumers and good entrepreneurs. We also need to be good

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01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,560
Speaker 1: community members and citizens as well. And right now I

1688
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: think that both sides are so comfortable just pointing out

1689
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: the other person's laws. You know, it's almost become a

1690
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: politics of accusation and no confession. It's all projection as

1691
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: of what you did wrong, no reflection on what I

1692
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: could have done better, and that that you can't even

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01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: have a family that way, You can't even have a

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01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: kindergarten class that way. And we're trying to have a

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01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: whole country that way. It's not gonna work. And so

1696
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: and the business leaders honestly need to be the one

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01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: stepping up to the plate even more, not necessarily running

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01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: for office, but just you know, up leveling and saying, hey, listen, um,

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01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: you know America is about the business of business of

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01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: anything else, and y'all about to mess around here and

1701
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: make it nobody can get ahead because you know, it's

1702
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: just so negative, it's so nasty. Right now, that's painful.

1703
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I will be right back. I'm gonna take a break

1704
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: and hold on, um Van, because I want to talk

1705
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: about you got arrested in eighteen eighty three. That shock,

1706
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you know, no justice, no peace. I

1707
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: was in I was in l a at n eighteen

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01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: eighty two when they dropped off with Rotten the Key

1709
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: that had a profiled effect on you and your political views. Today,

1710
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that Brights family, you know,

1711
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: that that liberal family, when you realized that they suddenly

1712
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: had conservative values because He's what they just wanted the job, Man,

1713
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: they wanted the job. We've been right back with Man

1714
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: seeing their contributor. I'll tell you I love this dude.

1715
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm happy to spend six times to call my show

1716
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: more with money making conversations. We'll be right back Sean McDonald. Hi,

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01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: this for Sean McDonald. I'm back on whole is my

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01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: man Van Jones, CNN contributor. His latest book. His latest

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01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: book is Beyond the Messy Troup. How We Came Apart,

1720
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: How We Came Together. It's now since October tenth. I

1721
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: got him on the phone right now and we're gonna

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01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: discuss that in disappoint How you doing, Van? Very good?

1723
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: Very good? But how are you pretty good? I appreciate

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01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: you now read this book and a good read. Learned

1725
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: a lot because you break it down in chapters. You

1726
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: you label, you label people liberals you label conservatives, you said,

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01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: this is what just what's wrong, and this is how

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01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: we can fix liberal hear me out, you go with

1729
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: the conservative this is who you are, you label them,

1730
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: and you said, this is how we can fix it.

1731
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: And then you talk about how we can come together,

1732
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: and you lay out different different informational ports that they

1733
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: can go, websites, all that stuff they can go to

1734
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: get information, to get the truth. Because that's what this

1735
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: book is all about, is the truth correct absolutely um.

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01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: And and you know it's some of these issues that

1737
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: we forget. Um. Look, there's some issues we just gotta

1738
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,879
Speaker 1: fight over. I mean, we just there's not enough agreement.

1739
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: There's and and people are too passionate on either side.

1740
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna, uh, you know, abandoned the Muslims in America.

1741
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: American some of the best Americans that we have. I mean,

1742
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: they got the lowest crime rate, the lowest divorce rate,

1743
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: the highest educational attainment for women in many cases, entrepreneurship.

1744
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean every muzzle might know got a job, of

1745
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: college degree or a business. I don't know why we're

1746
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be mad at them. So I'm never gonna

1747
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: be gonna back off defending Muslims or Dreamers or l

1748
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: g B t Q or Black Lives Matter, and we're

1749
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: just not gonna agree on that across these different divides,

1750
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: but there are. But so we have to fight. But

1751
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: you can't only fight and still have a country. Even

1752
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: if you're gonna fight from nine to noon, you should

1753
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: find something between you know, noon and one to work

1754
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: on together to make something positive happen for the country. So,

1755
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, you have this addiction crisis across the country,

1756
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: especially these opioid pain killers that people are just dropping

1757
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: like flies. And you know, my good friend Prince of

1758
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 1: the late rock star he was killed, um by his

1759
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: addiction to opioids. And yet coal miners are dying of

1760
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: the same thing. We should be able to come together

1761
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: behind stuff like that. But but but corporations are selling

1762
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: it and it's legal. Yeah. Well, and and that's the thing.

1763
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: We have some ideas in the book though that would

1764
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: come up with the safer alternatives to help people get

1765
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: off that stuff, um and and and not do the

1766
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,520
Speaker 1: detox and die thing, because a lot of people they

1767
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: do the detox thing, but there's no supportive drugs, you know,

1768
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: to help them stay off and get off in a

1769
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,879
Speaker 1: safe way, and they wind up relapsing and they overdose

1770
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: because that old dose is too high form. Now these

1771
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: are type of things is real. See, I'm I'm dealing

1772
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: with real stuff. I'm not dealing with tweets. I'm dealing

1773
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: with real life issues that people need to be focused on. You.

1774
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: We've got too many funerals in America for dumb reasons,

1775
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: and we need to be able to no matter how mad.

1776
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: I am um at Donald Trump, and I'm mad at

1777
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: him every day, and you get mad, you get mad,

1778
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I get mad. I get mad. But at the same time,

1779
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump's wanted his closest advisors and new

1780
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: grige and you you see in the book I talked

1781
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: about how I work with newt on opioids. I work

1782
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: with newt on um the criminal justice reform, you know,

1783
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: And you know, it used to be the case that

1784
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: you could you fight where you don't agree, and you

1785
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: work together where you do agree. Now we fight where

1786
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: we don't agree and we won't even speak, so we

1787
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: can't work where we do agree. And that's that's and

1788
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: that really is the problem. So I wouldn't get a

1789
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 1: quicker feedback because I thought this is important to you

1790
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: book twenty five years ago, you know the Rodney King video,

1791
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: because that had a profound effect, and that also led

1792
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: to you doing a peaceful march at Dolores Park and

1793
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: and then you was why am I being arrested? It's peaceful,

1794
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: so and that kind of like set the stage a

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01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: little bit. This is a lots of different I wok.

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01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 1: It's a lot of different things in life to make

1797
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: who you are today. But that was a profound moment

1798
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: in the book, and it was a relatable moment for

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01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: me because I was living in l A at the

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01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: time and I was in the heart of it. I

1801
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: saw it live. I drove around it, I drove through

1802
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: the community's black home signs were popping up on all

1803
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: these business so they wouldn't be impacted by any damage.

1804
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: And it was really crazy. And but you were not there,

1805
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: so I WI wanted to see how it affected you.

1806
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: And I was right in this to say the jouncle

1807
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I was in the war zone. Well, you know, I

1808
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: was in northern California, um that spring of UM and

1809
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, um, I was a young, idealistic law student

1810
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: and I have working for a civil rights organization and

1811
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: some of the you know, they were even though you

1812
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: were in the middle of everything in l A. There

1813
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: were rallies and protests all across the country, maybe all

1814
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 1: around the world behind Rodney King, because you know, you

1815
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: have un armed black man being beaten in videotape, will

1816
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: being beaten by the cops in videotape. Back then, videotape

1817
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: was hard to come by. It wasn't right now everybody

1818
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: got a phone, I mean you know that it was.

1819
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: It had never been captured before what we were going through,

1820
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: and we just knew these cops were gonna go to jail,

1821
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: and none of them went to jail. So people took

1822
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: to the streets. And I was in the Bay Area

1823
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: and had been asked by my boss to go and

1824
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: just do legal observation and make sure the cops were

1825
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 1: being the rules. And nothing got in and they slept

1826
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: everybody up, included my little you know, educated I thought

1827
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: I was above it all. No justice, no piece, no justice,

1828
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: no piece exactly. And then I wasn't even yet and

1829
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: I was just walking alongside with my little clip forward,

1830
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to take note and um, then I looked around,

1831
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: I said, Jesus, then you know my my uh communities,

1832
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: free speech rights are being trampled on. Nobody do anything violent,

1833
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: um in in in you know that march, And it

1834
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,839
Speaker 1: just underscored to me the need to work on criminal

1835
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: justice and policing issues. And that's really what I focused on,

1836
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: and and I learned so much doing that, because when

1837
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: you're working on policing issues and criminal justice, you really

1838
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: have to work at the grassroots level. Most top level

1839
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: politicians are not going to deal with you. And so

1840
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna be dealing with grandmama's and preachers and and

1841
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: youths and other folks until you get some victories going

1842
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: and and and and I'll never forget what it's like

1843
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: when you're fighting the whole system with just you know,

1844
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: a few allies. Then to be able to win sometimes

1845
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: and just shows you the power of the people. Man.

1846
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for calling my show. I

1847
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: hope it was a good time, good ride for you there, man, Yeah,

1848
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 1: it was. I just want to ask everybody, you know,

1849
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 1: beyond the Messy Truth, that's the name of my book.

1850
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: You know, get the book. It's gonna it's I promise you.

1851
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: However you're feeling, we get done with the book, you're

1852
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna feel better and join the Love Army Love Army

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Speaker 1: dot org and let's let's le's let's try to get

1854
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: us to a better place. I'm not gonna let this

1855
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: orange weirdo steal my joy. We're gonna keep moving. But man,

1856
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: I love you, I watch you. Your passion is what

1857
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: would drive to me to continue to be a fan

1858
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: of yours. Keep doing what you're doing, don't stop. And

1859
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put poster on our money making conversations on

1860
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Facebook page and our Twitter account, and we're gonna keep

1861
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: building and selling the brand of Van Jones. Okay, thank

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01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: you very much. Appreciate that. That's Bevan Jones. You heard

1863
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith heard my man Mark Randall from the

1864
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: SBA talking about disaster relief. Alan Mauldonaldo he would be

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Speaker 1: on Blackish this tomorrow. In fact sev he also will

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Speaker 1: be cast as a consistent role player and the Last

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Speaker 1: O G starring Tracy Morgan Centric the Entertainer has another

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Speaker 1: movie coming out with Mike Epps and Terror Crew onlins

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Speaker 1: Gate or more importantly closing it out, Dr Ya Lander

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Speaker 1: Ragley the best foot doctor in the world. I'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Monday. Great show. I appreciate everybody who listens.

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