Speaker 1: To get.
Speaker 2: Broadcast atom in Atlanta, Georgia. Welcome to the ball show.
Speaker 2: I go by the name of Ferri Simus.
Speaker 3: I go to the name you know, Bt, my.
Speaker 2: Favorite cousin, Young jobs of the building. Rise up, y'all
Speaker 2: over here, Hey man, people in Atlanta love wearing stop it.
Speaker 2: Let me let me correct you. When the Falcons win,
Speaker 2: the city wins. People are so festive and happy when
Speaker 2: Falcon football, not Braves baseball Georgia town. No, I'm just
Speaker 2: saying no, I'm just being honest, because the Braves won
Speaker 2: the World Series, right. I literally was gonna do a
Speaker 2: post Jack. I don't know if you agree on that.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you all the Falcons needed just one. We
Speaker 2: just need one super Bowl and watch how Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Gonna be when the last time you wear the Falcons jersey.
Speaker 2: First of all, I have several Facons jersey. I have
Speaker 2: three mic Vic jersey to Dion jersey. He ain't answered.
Speaker 2: I have a red Julio Jones jersey and a black
Speaker 2: Julio Jock jersey.
Speaker 1: He ain't answering the question.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a Michael and when the last on
Speaker 2: Sunday in the last time at home, when I watched
Speaker 2: the game, I put it, I get festive.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Bro, Hey bro, you answer the wrong person. I got
Speaker 2: a facus tattoo.
Speaker 3: And soon does the Falcons win?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ask the wrong person. Wait both of both
Speaker 2: they don't have I'm from Florida and I love the facus.
Speaker 4: When I was in Florida, well nothing, nobody told me
Speaker 4: to word my jersey.
Speaker 1: Today I was thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Told us, well, Jock, you you actually performed that all
Speaker 4: time out.
Speaker 2: It's called fabon Friday. Okay, you wear your father jersey
Speaker 2: on Friday. Okay, that's just what I'm telling, called father Friday.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jock for he was performing. This is
Speaker 3: not we just turned this.
Speaker 2: To well, you know, he's from the A but Jack
Speaker 2: is our guest host. But we are gonna pick his brain.
Speaker 2: Let's do that first and foremost. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we should tell your story over, but for those who
Speaker 2: don't know, you know this funny story. My kids, my
Speaker 2: younger kids was like, hey, yeah, he's on Love and
Speaker 2: hip Hop. I was like, you know, he was the rapper.
Speaker 2: He was like, it's going down. She was like I
Speaker 2: was like, I had to pull the music up, and
Speaker 2: she was like, oh yeah, Okay, I heard this before.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I just kind of had to.
Speaker 1: But some kids to be like that, some kids ain't.
Speaker 1: They're living in their times, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're on television and on the radio.
Speaker 5: But because like it's some kids that when they see me,
Speaker 5: their their their family or their parents. We're supporters, are
Speaker 5: supporters and fans. So it's just like passing it on down.
Speaker 2: It's you pass it down for you know, but everybody don't.
Speaker 5: And sometimes kids just into what they're into. But it'll
Speaker 5: be funny when people are like, hey, ain't you from
Speaker 5: Love and Hip Hop? I'm like, no, from Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That's what you say, that's what you say.
Speaker 1: I have to because no, I'm from Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Because I don't want you to just sum me up
Speaker 5: and that in reality and it's okay, you can't.
Speaker 1: Be like ain't you young job?
Speaker 5: And that? And then no, I don't expect you to
Speaker 5: do all that. But I don't want to be summed
Speaker 5: up as ain't you young job? Ain't you the guy?
Speaker 5: Or ain't you from Love and Hip No I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, Jock?
Speaker 4: I was on growing up hip hop and people be like, man,
Speaker 4: ain't you You was on love and hip hop growing
Speaker 4: up hip hop?
Speaker 1: No, I was on growing up hip hop.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I just think it's just a
Speaker 4: reaction for people.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they it's like they're trying to
Speaker 3: sun you.
Speaker 4: I just think that sometimes people Okay, I just think
Speaker 4: people are just kind of like.
Speaker 5: Shocked, like because that may be the most uh, that
Speaker 5: may be what they they're seeing you on recently, or
Speaker 5: the most recent thing or the most the thing that
Speaker 5: that gives off the most energy for your brand.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't think people majority come
Speaker 2: off in a in a malice way, like in a
Speaker 2: bad intent.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends.
Speaker 5: It depends, because if you're the type of person that
Speaker 5: gives off negative energy, someone always wants to contest you,
Speaker 5: whether it's over, whether it's via social media or in person.
Speaker 1: I see it all the times. And that's why, like, I.
Speaker 5: Never gave off a lot of negative energy in my music,
Speaker 5: and I'm thankful to God and I believe I believe
Speaker 5: that's why I have been able to have a successful
Speaker 5: music career where there weren't shootouts and always your music
Speaker 5: always been fun, and so I time that I bring
Speaker 5: out so it's just like it's just like when you
Speaker 5: see the tough the tough cats, whenever you see the
Speaker 5: tough niggas, like that's who they bring out. They bring
Speaker 5: out tough niggas, and tough niggas is like, I want
Speaker 5: to see he really tough. Now, now you got to
Speaker 5: face the energy that you give, and that's that's always
Speaker 5: you know what it is. But I definitely don't think
Speaker 5: it comes off of malice.
Speaker 1: Though. To back to that, I just I just be
Speaker 1: wanting people.
Speaker 2: But you said you kind of gave us a segue.
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to take it there. I feel
Speaker 2: like you've had an extremely successful tenure as a person.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why, because you evolved. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You evolved.
Speaker 2: You went from artists to platinum artists, to television to radio.
Speaker 2: But you've done everything successfully. That's not easy.
Speaker 3: Off camera, me and Jock was just having this conversation.
Speaker 2: Very difficult. It's extremely difficult.
Speaker 1: You know. It makes it extremely difficult.
Speaker 5: The wrong attitude, the wrong attitude and not enough gratitude.
Speaker 5: I think the wrong attitude. Some people feel like, NA,
Speaker 5: that ain't I don't want it. That's gonna be too
Speaker 5: much like work. But what I've come to realize, no
Speaker 5: matter what you do to make money or generate an income,
Speaker 5: there has to be some discipline.
Speaker 1: There has to be consistency. And if you know.
Speaker 5: What it's like to live a successful lifestyle or lavish lifestyle,
Speaker 5: then sometimes you get to the point where it don't
Speaker 5: matter what.
Speaker 1: You gotta do to get it, you just know how
Speaker 1: to get it.
Speaker 5: And that means if I gotta dedicate ten years to
Speaker 5: something to be successful, can I do it simultaneously with
Speaker 5: other things that I'm putting effort, energy, time, money into
Speaker 5: as well. And I think that's what most people fall off.
Speaker 5: Like man, I ain't got a little time for me,
Speaker 5: but I look at it like everything I do, it's fun.
Speaker 5: I don't do nothing I don't like to do.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tag you and BT, but I feel like
Speaker 2: you were one of the first of your kind. You're
Speaker 2: a legacy artists now like you're a legend in my
Speaker 2: eyes right.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that if you said that.
Speaker 2: Had a number one song in the world you I
Speaker 2: saw you on TV. I remember I was in I
Speaker 2: think college watching you. I saw you. The fall off
Speaker 2: could have been really, really bad, had you not evolved
Speaker 2: into doing something else, and there could have not have
Speaker 2: been a part two or part three of who we
Speaker 2: see you are today if you didn't align yourself appropriately,
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying, because how many artists have we
Speaker 2: seen fall off who have had such big records making money?
Speaker 2: Like one time, I remember Jack was the big feature
Speaker 2: man in the music industry. You had to have a
Speaker 2: young job.
Speaker 1: It's happening a lot, and I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: it's happening, it's happening. Was you like finally?
Speaker 5: I never was like finally, because finally was when we
Speaker 5: did this going down and before the world heard it.
Speaker 5: We were inviting people to the studio and Nieddy kept
Speaker 5: bringing people in and I had been around, but I
Speaker 5: was just known as Miss Bee's hype man.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, not knowing that I'm.
Speaker 5: A producer, I'm a writer, I'm a creative and I'm
Speaker 5: sitting back and I'm helping do management too, but I'm
Speaker 5: doing it quietly.
Speaker 1: But I had this.
Speaker 5: I still had a good personality, so people still rock
Speaker 5: with me. But I just never said this is what
Speaker 5: I'm doing, this is what I got going on, because
Speaker 5: I would always just listen because I like no sense
Speaker 5: and telling all what I got.
Speaker 1: Going on because I don't think I'm there yet. Why
Speaker 1: am I shared?
Speaker 5: And when everybody walking me up to me shares with
Speaker 5: what they got going on?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let me listen, somebody gonna tell me
Speaker 1: what you know? You know?
Speaker 5: When they stuck with do you know? I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I want to say, Okay, I know. And when
Speaker 5: people were coming in that studio alright and they'd be
Speaker 5: like you need to play, they be like, ooh, ship,
Speaker 5: what that is?
Speaker 1: Who are that? Right?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: It was everybody had the same reaction.
Speaker 5: Just it's just like something so new, but you know
Speaker 5: it instantly and it's like who was that? And be
Speaker 5: like hip And it's not a slow turned whistle. It's
Speaker 5: like it's like walking in saying.
Speaker 1: What y'all are y'all?
Speaker 5: Justy'all the lottery because that's how people reacting or who
Speaker 5: or who cooked that food?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Instantly? Who who? Who?
Speaker 5: So instantly in that moment. Finally, for me, I was
Speaker 5: like finally because I knew then. I was like, I
Speaker 5: don't know how.
Speaker 2: Far down didn't even come out yet.
Speaker 5: No, we had just recorded it, which is just a mess,
Speaker 5: like we just do this on to that boom, and
Speaker 5: then the next couple of days people coming through because
Speaker 5: we're still working on it, working on other stuff we're
Speaker 5: trying to build, and we're like, let me play the
Speaker 5: for your boom.
Speaker 2: Dude. I remember seeing you on MTV Cribs. I remember that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember it all. Now, which career do you did
Speaker 2: you have the most fun, because I feel like you
Speaker 2: have three careers.
Speaker 1: Like five career movies now movies, So it was funny.
Speaker 2: You're you're shooting movies or you're playing.
Speaker 1: Your investing in them as well. It's fun. You know.
Speaker 5: When I think of the music industry, I mean, it's
Speaker 5: kind of keep it a hunted man, it's kind of Ah.
Speaker 5: It's one of the most adventurous career paths you could
Speaker 5: take because the word celebrated. Everywhere you go, you're celebrated.
Speaker 5: That's why you call it celebrity, right, So everywhere I go,
Speaker 5: I'm celebrated.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: It never feels like work until you're doing stuff.
Speaker 5: That you don't want to do, like interviews. I like
Speaker 5: doing interviews because I like people, right, A.
Speaker 2: Lot of artists don't I see, I see. It's like
Speaker 2: a hipper. So it's like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: No, because the thought process of it all is once
Speaker 5: I'm rich, I don't have to work, or when I
Speaker 5: get on, it's not going to be work because you
Speaker 5: never see in the music videos. You never see the
Speaker 5: artists showing you the work schedule, that the work low.
Speaker 1: You don't see that. You see.
Speaker 2: You see you know the fun money, you see you.
Speaker 1: See the yeah baby, we we mm hmm. What's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is we don't. We don't see that work.
Speaker 5: So when they get faced with it's like, oh, I
Speaker 5: tell people all the time, when I first went to
Speaker 5: Diddy Studio, Daddy's house, right, it wasn't the first time.
Speaker 5: It was the it was like the third time. It
Speaker 5: was like the first time. As I'm signed, young Jack,
Speaker 5: you officially have a hit.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 5: We can't even stop it if we wanted to. They're
Speaker 5: having a party. In the middle of a party. And
Speaker 5: I told the story before. It's a booth. It's a
Speaker 5: recording booth. Niggas is in hip hopping bottles and joining themselves,
Speaker 5: no crazy shit, just like a mixer.
Speaker 1: People, the DJ's and the pds, whatever, come make me.
Speaker 1: And I'm in this booth doing five thousand drops for.
Speaker 5: They whole everybody from radio is sending in all the
Speaker 5: dropping from all these radio stations. And I see that,
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I supposed to do that. Once you
Speaker 5: go ahead knocked that out, I'm like, oh, y'all think
Speaker 5: this is making the band for real? Huh well, let
Speaker 5: me show you we're gonna make these bands. Come on,
Speaker 5: I got it, and I'm willing to do the work
Speaker 5: because every part of it, I know, it's me sowing
Speaker 5: into my future. It's me sowing into what I expect
Speaker 5: out of it. You know what I'm saying, Like, if
Speaker 5: I hit you out that bad black, I can't expect
Speaker 5: to knock you out and I get the prize, I
Speaker 5: get the purse, I get the belt.
Speaker 1: No, I got to put everything in it, for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's just how we got to be. So I've
Speaker 1: had fun doing all this shit.
Speaker 2: Now, you were signed to bad Boy South, correct, Now,
Speaker 2: what was your first deal? Was your first deal through
Speaker 2: bad Boy South?
Speaker 5: My first deal was me and Chino Dollar with Mastermind Music,
Speaker 5: and I signed myself to my label, right, and so
Speaker 5: we went in to do a furnishing deal with Block.
Speaker 5: It was Block Block Entertainment be a bad Boy via Atlantic.
Speaker 5: And so that's where the confusion came in early on
Speaker 5: in my career because I signed myself to myself and
Speaker 5: me and Chino, right, So when we did this deal,
Speaker 5: Block and I don't want to I don't want this
Speaker 5: to be like I'm bashing, but this is how the
Speaker 5: business go. The way the paperwork look, Block and Chino
Speaker 5: had to split the proceeds. But that's Block, Chino and
Speaker 5: Jock who got to split these proceeds. So in the
Speaker 5: process of that, now we're furnishing out with Bad Boys South.
Speaker 3: And so it's a lot of hands in the pot, right,
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: What happens is it's a bust down, bust down, bus down.
Speaker 5: But when you started feeling like, man, he good because
Speaker 5: he with Yack and you know, that's what Block and
Speaker 5: Chino fell out at. So that's how I was able
Speaker 5: to get out of my deal. People don't notice, but
Speaker 5: I was able to go back and say, hey, I
Speaker 5: was never just signed to Block Entertainment and if y'all
Speaker 5: not gonna honor that, then we can't under young Jock
Speaker 5: being signed to.
Speaker 1: Bad Boy or Atlantic. Mm hmmm. It was real crazy
Speaker 1: and they let you go. I had to what do
Speaker 1: you mean?
Speaker 4: So how how did that conversation go? It was crazy, man,
Speaker 4: it was, it was, It was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was interesting because I was doing every
Speaker 1: thing I could too.
Speaker 2: And what song is currently out right now it's going down,
Speaker 2: is already out and we're doing big features around.
Speaker 4: The when when you was getting out of the contract,
Speaker 4: this year is on end.
Speaker 1: This is like so you already jocked, like.
Speaker 2: It's already lit Heaven, Heaven.
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, y'all crazy, and I'm like, we gotta
Speaker 5: do something because yo, I can't keep sitting around playing.
Speaker 2: Now you're saying sit around playing? Is this because like
Speaker 2: money is coming in and like people are like, all right,
Speaker 2: how does this break down? No money slowing, No, not slowing.
Speaker 1: It's just like we can't come to an agreement to
Speaker 1: move forward, you know what I'm saying. That's all it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, just imagine before I, before I
Speaker 5: did the deal with any of them ahead, I know
Speaker 5: you see it, I had this going down, so you like,
Speaker 5: I already got he already got these records. And so
Speaker 5: now after we do our first deal, you know it's
Speaker 5: you know, it's a half me and all the budget.
Speaker 1: I ain't really getting no real signing bonus for real?
Speaker 1: For real. It was like a little bit right.
Speaker 5: And I know it didn't take all, but it kind
Speaker 5: of did, but it kind of didn't because I didn't
Speaker 5: record no wether blocked studio for my first album for real,
Speaker 5: because I had it already came with the other the
Speaker 5: records that I had, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: now I'm like, second album, Come now, I got a
Speaker 5: million dollar budget and I get no advance. I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: we got no advance time about what we're doing.
Speaker 1: No? No? Oh, So you know sounds like okay.
Speaker 5: So I had to already start preparing myself to look
Speaker 5: at the legal ramifications of my paperwork, and I just
Speaker 5: started putting money into that quietly because I saw where
Speaker 5: that was about to go.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, okay, you like, this ain't right.
Speaker 4: A million dollars, bro, and I don't see no money
Speaker 4: and I'm already lit.
Speaker 5: Bro, I'm looking like and so now you want me
Speaker 5: to only record at your studio? And again I understood
Speaker 5: it because it's like, hey, dog, I built this house,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, This studio, this block entertainment.
Speaker 1: You're gonna come here and you're gonna do this here.
Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna this budget gonna feed But the budget
Speaker 5: only feeds your family. What about other people? And it's
Speaker 5: not just about feeding their family. It's other spaces I
Speaker 5: want to record, and it's other synergies I want to experience.
Speaker 1: And be a part of.
Speaker 2: And you may want to go to patch work, you
Speaker 2: may want to go billboard.
Speaker 5: Guess what if I go to some of these studios,
Speaker 5: I walk in and oh man, what's happen?
Speaker 1: And it's just like, I ain't even think of that?
Speaker 5: And nothing like I got a tone when you producers,
Speaker 5: you you know, unknown the synergy you walk in, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh man, what in crossing? And I couldn't do that
Speaker 5: there because he didn't have question?
Speaker 2: How is your relationship with Block?
Speaker 1: Now? It's cool? I said, I'm not wanting for grudges.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Was there a fallout when you of.
Speaker 5: Course it was, of course it was. But we got
Speaker 5: past that ship. Man, ain't look man, you're rich. You
Speaker 5: know we're rich, but what what you what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: Oh y'all?
Speaker 5: So and when I started seeing things that you know,
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too deep in all that
Speaker 5: ship because I'm so far removed from it. But when
Speaker 5: I started feeling those negative energies, that is one of
Speaker 5: those moments in my life where I said, oh, y'all
Speaker 5: want me to show y'all how many different hats I
Speaker 5: could wear? Oh, I got to do this, then let
Speaker 5: me show you. So I started putting out other artists.
Speaker 2: Was this the was this the the evolution to go.
Speaker 5: Into This was the evolution of Okay, it's not about
Speaker 5: me showing y'all, it's about me showing myself.
Speaker 3: I got a challenge job, like bro, because they thought
Speaker 3: you was just an artist.
Speaker 5: Well, no, they knew it. They knew I wasn't just
Speaker 5: the artists. They knew I wasn't just an artists. And
Speaker 5: that was the issue. It's like we can't let him
Speaker 5: move too fast. It was almost like like like a
Speaker 5: little bro, Like, little Bro, just slow down, let me
Speaker 5: show you the way.
Speaker 1: Hey, I see your way.
Speaker 5: And because everybody's benefiting all you, so we don't need
Speaker 5: need you to we don't need you to go off
Speaker 5: and be like man, I can do my own label,
Speaker 5: put out, do this, do this, do this, and and
Speaker 5: I'm like that's cool. But if you planing me on this.
Speaker 1: I'm not no dummy.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 5: Bro, If I'm hungry and somebody bring in to hamburgers
Speaker 5: and you hungry, and I'm hungry, and I'm telling I'm starving,
Speaker 5: and you eat both of them hamburgers knowing I'm starving.
Speaker 1: We ain't gotta fight.
Speaker 5: Just know I can never eat with you again. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna just wait till you go to sleep, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna be sleepy after over. Consumer, that's what greed. Does
Speaker 5: you get comfortable and relaxed, That's what greed.
Speaker 1: Does.
Speaker 5: You get comfortable, you relax and you let you go
Speaker 5: down cool, and I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: That's a very That's an interesting way to think.
Speaker 1: Because most people want to fight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know Florida. If you Florida, people like to fight.
Speaker 5: But it's it's it's not just human nature. It's just
Speaker 5: it's just the nature of the kingdom. Put your let's get.
Speaker 1: A hungry dog. Put your hand in plate, gonna bite
Speaker 1: you and bite your do a baby. Let the baby
Speaker 1: trying to pull the food back.
Speaker 2: I got one of the house, like damn in the morning, bro,
Speaker 2: she is she lit? Yeah, don't let the milk run out.
Speaker 1: Like all right, So wait, John instincts right here, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So when is there any moment in this path I'm
Speaker 2: trying to stay make sure we stay on the chronological
Speaker 2: order where you were like, damn, the sack is going down.
Speaker 2: I gotta pivot out of this.
Speaker 5: Was that after the Forbes when you announced on so
Speaker 5: so you know, once they did the Ford ship Man,
Speaker 5: it was really like.
Speaker 2: Was that bad for you?
Speaker 1: It was good and bad? Okay, because somewhere there was
Speaker 1: certain people.
Speaker 2: Grabbing for wrong. Sixteen million in one year is a lot?
Speaker 1: Well, it was. It was it was ten ten right,
Speaker 1: damn but that but that's.
Speaker 2: Just it's everything. It's allocations.
Speaker 5: They that may have been reported, got it what they
Speaker 5: think because if you if you came and gave me
Speaker 5: right now a million dollars and then you gave it
Speaker 5: to me cash.
Speaker 2: How they know facts?
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: It's basically what's in your name and they can sert
Speaker 2: your name and look it up.
Speaker 3: This would always say.
Speaker 4: I always say Forbes numbers is always off in my opinion,
Speaker 4: because it's just like you said, it might say on
Speaker 4: paper that he made ten.
Speaker 1: Million, but he could have made fifteen million that year.
Speaker 4: And I've seen an interview where you said that was
Speaker 4: one of the worst mistakes that you made, was.
Speaker 3: Allowing that to be published.
Speaker 5: I think just what happens is bro sometimes, you know,
Speaker 5: because think about it.
Speaker 1: Football player, athlete.
Speaker 5: We know their salary, sure do now the artist, we
Speaker 5: know how much your deal was worth. And then to
Speaker 5: break it even further down, it came to a point
Speaker 5: where how many uns you did in the first week,
Speaker 5: But before that that was still always a plaque to
Speaker 5: solidify your numbers. That's why you end up with a platinum,
Speaker 5: gold or diamond. You know what I'm saying. Because people
Speaker 5: we also market the success in numbers and money will
Speaker 5: market that.
Speaker 1: We have to explore it. Hey man, he.
Speaker 2: Did X y Z was to justify the yeah I
Speaker 2: got you.
Speaker 5: And it's also propaganda. So when the Forbes hit that
Speaker 5: was the first time they did it. I'm number I'm
Speaker 5: the bottom of the list, but I'm like, damn, I'm
Speaker 5: on the list. So now some people who actually might
Speaker 5: want to help you now they looking more like.
Speaker 1: Shit, man, you can help it, can help you, help me?
Speaker 1: You good, So it.
Speaker 5: Ain't somebody might not call you yo, I just yo,
Speaker 5: I got ten thousand can you come through and do
Speaker 5: two songs at this wedding?
Speaker 1: And it's like.
Speaker 5: You already in the city. You gotta show that night.
Speaker 5: If you can be in the sit there, you can
Speaker 5: do shit. Ain't no real cool team come through and
Speaker 5: I could do that, but they don't think. They don't
Speaker 5: expect you to take it, so they don't. They don't
Speaker 5: call you with it. Now you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying because now people now people
Speaker 4: are pocket watching, so now they're like, if he made
Speaker 4: ten million dollars, why am I gonna get him ten thousand?
Speaker 1: Or it ain't even that. I don't want to insult you
Speaker 1: know that too.
Speaker 5: You ever you ever seen your you never played yourself
Speaker 5: out of a deal when you you shot yourself in
Speaker 5: the foot because you're thinking, well, you know what you
Speaker 5: will take, man, I'll take what.
Speaker 1: They like, all right, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Damn.
Speaker 1: I was like, hell, I'm fucking witch. But you just
Speaker 1: gotta be that type of.
Speaker 5: Dude on your Yeah, if you because if you hit him,
Speaker 5: if they hit you with that, your quick drug out
Speaker 5: to be like I'm talking shit, bro, for real, is
Speaker 5: actually double that you let that's it come out to
Speaker 5: your mouth. If that's it, that's the indication that you
Speaker 5: got more. So give me more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But anyway, it did come to a point where it's
Speaker 5: just like people felt like, so.
Speaker 2: When did Love and Hi want to bring him this bag?
Speaker 1: It ain't even that.
Speaker 5: It's just sometimes it turned into like damn even your family,
Speaker 5: You're like, you make that kind of money, You ain't
Speaker 5: gave me nothing, or like you, bro.
Speaker 1: You brought my kids a PS three for Christmas?
Speaker 5: Bro, you could about a PS three the sound system
Speaker 5: for that shit and a eighty ch TV.
Speaker 1: And you could have gotten a car.
Speaker 2: You got it. They think you got it on your
Speaker 2: account too.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: So so when did Love and Hip Hop Atlanta approach you?
Speaker 2: And was it something that you had to consider?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, someone had to consider.
Speaker 2: Did you at what first? Did you not want to
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: You know, And funny story, guys, I've never publicly said this.
Speaker 2: I approached me about doing a Love and Hip Hop
Speaker 2: one night at the wife house.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that night? What were I do?
Speaker 2: He was like, hey man, you'd be perfect.
Speaker 5: I was like, hell no, yeah, but you got the
Speaker 5: personality I know.
Speaker 2: I feel you. But I just was like, nah, I
Speaker 2: was going through something at the time.
Speaker 1: To yeah, you can't be drama was televisionable because they
Speaker 1: don't want you. Its real, A lot of it's real.
Speaker 2: I didn't want none of that smoke.
Speaker 5: But again, that's what we were talking about. What how much?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: I don't want the exaggeration?
Speaker 1: What are you willing to see?
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it, and I was just trying to
Speaker 2: protect the parties involved.
Speaker 1: Bro I was I said, I wouldn't do it either.
Speaker 2: You would.
Speaker 5: You would have made it so much, man said, I
Speaker 5: didn't want to do it either.
Speaker 2: Listen, bro Bro. First of all, shout out to the
Speaker 2: mothers of my kids. Shout out to my wife Tis.
Speaker 2: I wasn't with my wife Tenniche at the time. I
Speaker 2: just had a lot of drama going on and it
Speaker 2: was real. I was just outside. I was doing too much.
Speaker 1: No, what do I see? That's that?
Speaker 4: That's that, that's that that Jock agency in his mind, like, hey,
Speaker 4: what definitely.
Speaker 2: Cub I'm going to the waffle house to get some food.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh you. I was like what.
Speaker 1: He was like, no you.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, what are you talking about? He
Speaker 2: was like you're perfect. I was like, nah, because yeah,
Speaker 2: how did you consider saying you know what, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do this.
Speaker 1: Because I was at the point where I realized y'all.
Speaker 2: So you didn't do it for financial reasons.
Speaker 5: Not necessarily because you know, I was, man, please, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. When I got on there, I
Speaker 5: was getting it. But it was at a point where
Speaker 5: I was going through a divorce, so sh it will
Speaker 5: split then here I am while I'm going through this,
Speaker 5: because I was already separated, illegally separated, because the divorce
Speaker 5: had already been you know, we had already signed the
Speaker 5: voice settled. No, it wasn't settled, but I accepted the service,
Speaker 5: and she accepted the service so legally that that could
Speaker 5: be considered legal separation. I think, in my heart of hearts,
Speaker 5: I'm right on that, because no, I'm serious. Once I
Speaker 5: say I served you, I don't want to be with
Speaker 5: you no more. I'm not lying to you. I'm not
Speaker 5: misleading you. I'm honest. I don't want to be with you.
Speaker 2: And did you move out and have your own place?
Speaker 5: It took a minute. It took a minute because I
Speaker 5: still that was my family, you know, that was my unit.
Speaker 5: And I wasn't because I didn't really want a divorce,
Speaker 5: but I just realized at that point in my life.
Speaker 1: How do I say this, man? Because I believe in.
Speaker 5: Giving yourself time to heal and have better understanding the ship,
Speaker 5: because it took me ten years to really heal from
Speaker 5: some of the.
Speaker 1: Things that I went through. Ten years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because most of the time, you know, think about
Speaker 5: it when you're going through with a baby mama or something, right,
Speaker 5: y'all don't really get cool where y'all can kind of
Speaker 5: talk to y'all child about ten think about it because
Speaker 5: then another you know, it's like feelings far removed, the
Speaker 5: resentment is gone from both sides kind of dissipates and ass.
Speaker 3: Kind of like we can be friends. We can be
Speaker 3: friends now, and now we can see.
Speaker 1: What we're doing.
Speaker 2: Are extremely cordial to a point where the communication is
Speaker 2: extremely good.
Speaker 1: It's healthy.
Speaker 2: It's healthy and communication.
Speaker 5: And it didn't take me that long for my process
Speaker 5: of healing to start with me and my wife or
Speaker 5: me and anybody else. It was just like ali because
Speaker 5: none of that's new people you're getting involved with and
Speaker 5: ask like, who's around my kids?
Speaker 1: So you start going through certain stuff like that.
Speaker 5: And then after awhile, you know, you slow down, it
Speaker 5: was just one person or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So long as.
Speaker 5: I say ten years, because with you know, that's about
Speaker 5: the time we start celebrating people.
Speaker 1: We think of anniversary ten thirty, forty fifty years.
Speaker 5: You know, you know what I'm saying, Oh, I mean
Speaker 5: in this job for ten years, ten years, that's a decade.
Speaker 1: What do you even call five years? Nothing? See what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, but I see what I'm saying. There's nothing.
Speaker 5: But we we don't start stamping into this about a decade, right,
Speaker 5: and this we call it right. And I realized that
Speaker 5: after about a decade, I had a better understanding of
Speaker 5: my wrongs. And even when I thought I was right
Speaker 5: or whatever, I felt like my wife put me through
Speaker 5: or whatever. I felt like she didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 5: She just didn't know it took me. And it wasn't
Speaker 5: like I'm seeing his searching for that. You know, you're
Speaker 5: just sitting that the light one day and then you
Speaker 5: hear something You're like, damn, that's the same thing that
Speaker 5: I went through. But hearing it like this that it's
Speaker 5: just you're not looking for you know, shit, You never forget.
Speaker 5: It's in your subconscious realm. You're subliminal, and some things
Speaker 5: just pop out and you see it like, oh you
Speaker 5: never had an idea, Well, you thought about it one
Speaker 5: day and you just didn't know how to answer it,
Speaker 5: and then it took some time.
Speaker 1: One of that shit just pop hopped up and.
Speaker 2: Happens all the time, though.
Speaker 5: Think about this songs you hear ten years later, you
Speaker 5: riding one day and you hear the part of it. Nah,
Speaker 5: you just be like, oh, that's what he said. All
Speaker 5: this time, I thought he said X Y Z it
Speaker 5: sums to be about I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, it's more, it's more clarity.
Speaker 1: I think it's like it's like more clarity.
Speaker 5: I think maybe you get into a new generation of
Speaker 5: a new tier of life, and and it's evolving as evolution.
Speaker 5: So it's like some some music like you said, you
Speaker 5: are heard, but you ain't. You don't really hear it,
Speaker 5: and you look up ten years now, he was like.
Speaker 1: That's exact. I know what he mean. I ain't know
Speaker 1: what he meant ten years ago. I knew what he
Speaker 1: meant now though, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like that, So okay.
Speaker 2: Love and Hip hop is going well. Uh, young Jock
Speaker 2: is on TV and at the time all three of
Speaker 2: us was working at the same station. And Young Jock
Speaker 2: is now a radio morning show host. And I remember
Speaker 2: Jack oversleeping a little bit, coming to work late. I
Speaker 2: remember it wasn't sounding as well oiled as it is now.
Speaker 2: And I think always with new shows, that's just how
Speaker 2: it goes. That's just how radio works. But I do
Speaker 2: remember the best thing about your show and currently, now
Speaker 2: here's your voice. It's a recognizable voice. Yeah, everyone knows
Speaker 2: your voice. Why music, television, radio, You're covering all three bases.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to might.
Speaker 2: Be the smartest thing I've ever seen a radio host.
Speaker 1: Dude, ain't the first, but one thing about.
Speaker 2: The first, correct, However, I feel wait, yes you are no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's what he's done, but not you do it.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying what what're.
Speaker 2: Weekly on television, daily on the radio, and music is
Speaker 2: just everywhere everywhere other otherise that's what But see, that's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What what artists? Then we know artists Steve Harvey not a.
Speaker 2: Rapper, but Steve comedy but so so it's a sign
Speaker 2: I feel like comedy radio people and like artists. I
Speaker 2: think we're all like we have the same techniques on
Speaker 2: how we do things, even content people like well shout
Speaker 2: out to Lisa. I feel like we have to be
Speaker 2: creative and you can't just do one thing. If you
Speaker 2: just do one thing, you're you'll get stuck in your fail.
Speaker 1: Well let's let's let's be for real.
Speaker 5: Most of the things we consume are byproducts of something else,
Speaker 5: an attempt to do something, achieve something else, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like they didn't like like like coca
Speaker 5: cola wasn't meant to be consumed as a refreshing beverage.
Speaker 5: It was a ton of It was trying to like,
Speaker 5: hey man, you're feeling bad, to drink some of this ship.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna even if.
Speaker 5: It don't heal you, it's gonna take your mind off
Speaker 5: this ship and you're gonna feel good.
Speaker 1: Give me some of that. Yeah, So I think that's
Speaker 1: what happens that radio. Man, that radio one thing I knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Like what really made you just because make up and
Speaker 4: be like I want to do radio and not only
Speaker 4: that mornings, cause bro, you got to get up and
Speaker 4: foe and you don't be going to sleep.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, let me let me give you this
Speaker 1: game ready.
Speaker 2: Go ahead? So did you even sleep from last night?
Speaker 1: Right now? Nah? I performed in this yesterday.
Speaker 2: Last night because I seen your risks bad.
Speaker 1: And you know they always be like bro.
Speaker 5: I was like, look, as long as I don't stink,
Speaker 5: don't worry about what I had on yesterday, because if
Speaker 5: I stink, then I'm offensive and I should never be offensive. Motherfuck,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go brush my teeth. Wah, yeah, this is
Speaker 5: what I had on you man, you know not mad Well,
Speaker 5: let's not even talk about this.
Speaker 1: Ship work go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm bad show though.
Speaker 1: But I just been saying it for a minute.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I need a stability. And it wasn't about financial stability.
Speaker 5: It was about something that I could dedicate to that
Speaker 5: would still create or generate income and I can still
Speaker 5: be in entertainment, but I could be home because I
Speaker 5: got to a point man, when I met once I
Speaker 5: met Kendred, not met Yeah, shouts out to that one.
Speaker 5: Once we started being like, you know what I like
Speaker 5: being around this woman.
Speaker 1: I like, I like what we do.
Speaker 5: We get together, We get we get together, we start
Speaker 5: talking about making some money and then we'll go do
Speaker 5: that shit and make the money and be.
Speaker 1: Like, well, was that right, buddy? You know?
Speaker 5: And then it started turning like when I'm gone, she's
Speaker 5: concerned with me, and when I'm gone, I'm concerned with her.
Speaker 5: So then you know, we started living together and it's like, shit,
Speaker 5: I don't want my lady at home by myself like that.
Speaker 5: Even though when I was married it was the same way,
Speaker 5: but of course it was super security, even though we
Speaker 5: got super security now. But it's like lessons that you learned. Yes,
Speaker 5: and now I'm like, you know what I want to be.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 5: Correct my wrongs. I don't want to make the same mistakes.
Speaker 5: So now I'm like I want to put more time
Speaker 5: into my relationship and build.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, you know what.
Speaker 5: It's something I saw YO gotta do whenever I would
Speaker 5: go to Memphis. God, he would get so much loved.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I was like, this is crazy,
Speaker 5: like right, and so when.
Speaker 1: We did, I know what she liked. Let's just ask him.
Speaker 1: Get on it.
Speaker 5: Brian Leaps put it together. God, he did it, and
Speaker 5: I was like, appreciate it. Now she just took off
Speaker 5: and whenever, because he's the He was the type of
Speaker 5: artist that in his hometown. He live in legend, so
Speaker 5: you know what I feel like. And I remember they
Speaker 5: wanted to do They wanted me to do the car
Speaker 5: and bike show here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He wanted me to do it, and.
Speaker 5: I was a little hesitant because I knew that that
Speaker 5: record hadn't popped here in our city. I wasn't getting
Speaker 5: the same support at home as God he was getting
Speaker 5: in Memphis, so I knew that it could look different.
Speaker 5: And I remember that, and I didn't wanna do that show.
Speaker 5: And when we did that show, I remember the crowd
Speaker 5: not reacting like that for that song, and I remember
Speaker 5: Gody looking back like confused, like damn if you could tell,
Speaker 5: And it was a natural thing. It wasn't a hate,
Speaker 5: it wasn't nothing. It was just like it was like
Speaker 5: he looking at the DJ. And I had to do
Speaker 5: extra to get the crowd involved cause that worker hadn't
Speaker 5: popped here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that made me say.
Speaker 5: I gotta work on my roots, cause I need to
Speaker 5: be able to always get some money at home. If
Speaker 5: I can't get no money nowhere else right about what
Speaker 5: I'm saying right, and and and after that, I started
Speaker 5: asking myself what could I do to generate more of
Speaker 5: that type of love and that capacity.
Speaker 1: And I just started trying. Shit.
Speaker 5: Man, I had a got them, I had a car shop.
Speaker 5: I was paying cars like. I was paying cars like. Bro,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, like you.
Speaker 1: Don't even know.
Speaker 5: I would go and buy a car off Craigslist, old
Speaker 5: school right, fix it up. I would go get that car.
Speaker 5: I had a paint man. I had the interior.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I had a badass motor man right, So I go
Speaker 5: buy the car, thirty five hundred shell. I gonna put
Speaker 5: a motor in it, motor tradmis if it don't already
Speaker 5: have I. If it got it, I rebuild it. Someone
Speaker 5: was cool, just had to do some work to him.
Speaker 5: But I would dress that motor up. I would go in.
Speaker 5: I would paint that more because I got my interior. Man,
Speaker 5: everything gonna get painting because ain't gonna be nothing in it.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be the shell. So it's almost like frame off,
Speaker 5: but it's not frame. So then by the time I'm
Speaker 5: finished and I paint that car and I put everything together. Bro,
Speaker 5: I will go take the cars to the title point.
Speaker 5: Because it's an old school call, the value is up higher.
Speaker 5: You know, it's old schools. They don't appreciate like a
Speaker 5: new car. So if I can take a car, and
Speaker 5: I spent nine thousand, well about ten thousand dollars doing it,
Speaker 5: just to make it look like.
Speaker 1: They took care of this goddamn car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gonna get quecially depending on the style and
Speaker 2: make models.
Speaker 1: So I did.
Speaker 5: About after I did a few of them, I started realizing, like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm just do whatever I want to do.
Speaker 2: And radio was one of them.
Speaker 5: I started promoting clubs, so when I walked in the
Speaker 5: radio I had. I only went to radio because I
Speaker 5: was paying for a commercials to do a club I.
Speaker 2: Was promote on the South Side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually I was downtown.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I went to the I went to your club
Speaker 3: on the South side.
Speaker 2: What was it called?
Speaker 1: I think it was Miami No Southeast Venue South.
Speaker 2: I was is now called KOD Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 5: And I like what they've done with KOD, but I ain't.
Speaker 5: I don't think nobody made well. They've been a long.
Speaker 2: And when it was venue, it was lit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's little kod I was just saying Venue. I remember
Speaker 2: going to venue I used to go.
Speaker 1: I was doing that money drop. Yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 1: I remember. I went there with the money drop. Was crazy.
Speaker 2: I was crazy, that was it. You was paying for
Speaker 2: radio well.
Speaker 5: I was paying I was going to pay for radio ass.
Speaker 5: And I was just like, damn, what if I could
Speaker 5: talk to the people every goddamn day. Because when I
Speaker 5: went in there to talk on the mic, I'm in
Speaker 5: my I'm in my zone.
Speaker 1: I'm on the mic. And more Quick was doing the
Speaker 1: commercial and I'm.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, woo woo woo. And I told
Speaker 5: Charlotte shot, come whit me to do the commercial. I
Speaker 5: wanted to have like, you know, a funny edge to it.
Speaker 5: And as I was doing it, when she was playing
Speaker 5: it back, I was like, this, this ship is better
Speaker 5: than the music business because the city can hear what
Speaker 5: I'm talking about every day. Instantly, I said, hold on,
Speaker 5: I said, with Steve in his office, can go speak
Speaker 5: to him?
Speaker 1: So long? Yeah? What else? Steve jock Jock?
Speaker 2: What up?
Speaker 1: Man? I said, Hey, man, give me a show. Let's
Speaker 1: take over city. That is it was later so and
Speaker 1: the rest was history. It was hard it's been hard.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't just no easy thing because niggas was
Speaker 5: laughing at me, not because it was a good show.
Speaker 1: There was like why are you tripping?
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people was very confused because they
Speaker 4: was like, we never seen a rapper, a platinum selling
Speaker 4: rapper get a morning show. Yeah, it's just but it
Speaker 4: was kind But you know what, I think you kind
Speaker 4: of started something because now what I'm seeing is radio
Speaker 4: is trying to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not even just not even maino. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about just in general. Like I've seen morning shows in
Speaker 3: different other places where they like they try to get
Speaker 3: influencers now because remember.
Speaker 4: Radio used to be you gotta be good, you gotta
Speaker 4: you know it was it was a process. But now
Speaker 4: it's like when you stepped into it, I feel like
Speaker 4: you kind of changed, like the algorithm with Ready.
Speaker 5: I think it was some things already in place happening.
Speaker 5: I think people started the podcast thing was slowly just
Speaker 5: starting to try to just kind of like really have
Speaker 5: some real presence in our culture. And I think what
Speaker 5: it did was when I was able to go and
Speaker 5: get on radio every day, it made other people feel like.
Speaker 1: Not saying it helped the podcast thing.
Speaker 5: But I think I really feel like it did because
Speaker 5: people was thinking I was on the podcast. So every
Speaker 5: day that black Man, I heard you on that podcast
Speaker 5: because people see clips, they think the podcast, right. But
Speaker 5: then what it did? I think it made like you said,
Speaker 5: it made other people be like, well, you know what,
Speaker 5: I got stories, you know what I understand.
Speaker 1: Money. I done made a lot of money, man.
Speaker 5: I know people, I got relationships. So now that I think,
Speaker 5: I do feel like it may have had some influence.
Speaker 5: It did, for sure, you know, I just I just don't.
Speaker 5: I don't want to see him be like I had
Speaker 5: something to do with.
Speaker 1: That you did. But I said, person, well.
Speaker 5: You're the first person to say that to me, so
Speaker 5: I would accept it and say that maybe I was
Speaker 5: a part of that, because.
Speaker 3: I think you are very influential in just the landscaping
Speaker 3: of you know, at that period of time, like you said,
Speaker 3: the culture was starting to change.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we wasn't doing podcasts when I jumped on radio
Speaker 5: like that. It's not it was not, and that everybody came.
Speaker 2: It was very few. I remember we were doing this
Speaker 2: ball Up Show podcast twenty sixteen. It wasn't nowhere to
Speaker 2: where it is now. This is like a full television show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all have definitely grown and solutes y'all. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it like and your success too, because when
Speaker 4: John came in, I was like, man, how does it like,
Speaker 4: how does it feel to like have this success?
Speaker 3: And like did you expect to have this success?
Speaker 4: You know, getting into radio because you off said that
Speaker 4: radio in Atlanta for real, for real, like when you
Speaker 4: got on radio.
Speaker 2: Upset the ligarithm of normal morning radio. But again, I
Speaker 2: don't even know if you plan to do to.
Speaker 3: That's what he was talking about. I was talking about
Speaker 3: off camera.
Speaker 2: But again, like you're extremely valuable. Why you're on television weekly,
Speaker 2: you're on the radio daily. Your music can be heard global,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, and you're not afraid
Speaker 2: to win. How about this? Your music that you released
Speaker 2: over ten years ago is now being re reintroduced in
Speaker 2: the market on all radio stations. All stations have to
Speaker 2: play your record, So you're being heard on all four stations,
Speaker 2: whether you you know what I'm saying. We have four
Speaker 2: urban radio stations in Atlanta that play It's Going Now.
Speaker 2: All four of them play that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think man a PD.
Speaker 2: Can't even a boss can't say nothing about that.
Speaker 1: That's just a part of it. It's a real current here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: I just think, honestly, man, it's one of those things
Speaker 5: that I think I got a chance to see early on.
Speaker 5: Lead by example, do not be afraid. And I think
Speaker 5: having a father, the specialist type of father and mother
Speaker 5: that I had, but in this particular instant instant my
Speaker 5: father because I remember doing things that my older brothers
Speaker 5: and uncle wasn't doing. What they weren't doing, and I
Speaker 5: didn't like y'all not doing this. It's just like were
Speaker 5: sitting around doing it. They playing, they playing video games.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to play no video games. I want
Speaker 5: to make some money. So you know, I'm doing whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm selling shit, I'm going I'm cutting grass, I'm taking
Speaker 5: our people trash, I'm watching your car.
Speaker 1: Is it anything you need help with that you can
Speaker 1: pay me for?
Speaker 5: And I just started to realize that it was okay
Speaker 5: to work because, believe it or not, the time it's
Speaker 5: gonna take me to put it in work. It may
Speaker 5: seem like a long time, but at the end of
Speaker 5: my time, if it takes me eight hours, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have some of the show for my time. At the
Speaker 5: end of your time of being lazy and not doing
Speaker 5: anything or putting.
Speaker 1: Forth effort, you ain't gonna have shit. Hmm. So that's
Speaker 1: what made work easy for me. All right.
Speaker 2: So we got we got like less than to him
Speaker 2: minutes left. Let's do uh love versus money? Okay, you're good. Hell,
Speaker 2: it is great, all right, appreciate you, John pulling up
Speaker 2: on this. Gonna do balling at first, Yeah, let's do first.
Speaker 2: All right, it is now time for ball of mal
Speaker 2: dear ball alert. I recently got married to my lady.
Speaker 2: I have one child from a previous relationship. She has
Speaker 2: two from a previous relationship. We have one on the
Speaker 2: way together. So I'm gonna say it again. I have one.
Speaker 2: I have one child from a previous relationship. She has
Speaker 2: two from a previous lationship. That's three already. They got
Speaker 2: one on the way. So that's faulk, damn. Okay. The
Speaker 2: father of her two kids reached out because he had
Speaker 2: received an eviction notice because he has been out of
Speaker 2: work for the past two months due to a terrible
Speaker 2: work accident. She asked me to help him. I am
Speaker 2: looking at her crazy what should I do.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pass that the you jock help him and
Speaker 5: work capacity financially.
Speaker 2: Financially, Hey man, I'm a real man.
Speaker 5: And if you're a real man, if you done got
Speaker 5: to the point where you're married now, you don't have
Speaker 5: been through some changes in your life. And if you
Speaker 5: could see past the insecurities of me helping out this
Speaker 5: man that used to be inside of my wife, I
Speaker 5: got these kids. You got to see past that because
Speaker 5: it's still gonna affect me six degrees of separation. It's
Speaker 5: gonna affect me because his kids live with me.
Speaker 2: I would say, because anything I help him.
Speaker 1: Do, it's got to come right back to you.
Speaker 5: Not all of it, but a percentage got to come
Speaker 5: back to support these kids.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, you know, as long as it's
Speaker 2: a healthy co parenting style situation. If my wife this
Speaker 2: is a good idea, I trust my wife. My wife's
Speaker 2: an accounting bro, so like I actually trust her. So
Speaker 2: if she thinks this is a financial smart decision that
Speaker 2: I should make, I'm I'm gonna follow her lead, unless
Speaker 2: if it backfires, then I don't. Like I've been it's
Speaker 2: ain't a good idea.
Speaker 1: I've been double before.
Speaker 3: For me, it depends on the relationship that you have
Speaker 3: with this person.
Speaker 2: Facts.
Speaker 4: If we ain't partners, if I ain't never spoke to you,
Speaker 4: we're not cordial. Like I ain't helping you, bro, I
Speaker 4: ain't the only person you know here anyway. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I'm taking care of you, I'm
Speaker 4: technically taking care of your kids anyways.
Speaker 1: If he's been taking care of his children, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That's the variable you can't leave out if he's been
Speaker 5: financially sound here.
Speaker 2: But let's just say it's in there because if she
Speaker 2: if she has to ask for that, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: trusting my wife. I'm just gonna trust my wife. That's
Speaker 2: about it. Do I want to do it? No, But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna trust my wife if she's calling, if she's
Speaker 2: talking to me about this, and this is bad and
Speaker 2: this is a long cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a lot of people see see my mind. Yeah,
Speaker 5: my mind didn't go to give him money. My mind
Speaker 5: said to give him the resources to get his own money.
Speaker 3: In this particular situation, I think he asked for money.
Speaker 1: If he asked for money, Okay, how much you need?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man's too many people.
Speaker 2: We add we added to it, but too many people
Speaker 2: tear around like.
Speaker 5: He needs ten racks, keep him getting evicted. Do my
Speaker 5: kids go and stay with him?
Speaker 2: So he asked a question. I'm just like you, I mean,
Speaker 2: do my.
Speaker 1: But these are my questions.
Speaker 5: But does these two kids that y'all have do they
Speaker 5: spend time with him?
Speaker 1: Do they Is this a normal routine? Does he go?
Speaker 1: Do they go and spend time?
Speaker 5: I feel like to be had he gonna come and
Speaker 5: spend time with his kids. It's kind of like baby
Speaker 5: out because I'm taking care of his responsibility already.
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't take care of his responsibilities
Speaker 1: and him.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's well, my wife has the discernment to even
Speaker 2: know that before she bring that to me. First of all,
Speaker 2: my wife wouldn't even bring it. In fact, man, I'm no,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of variables to it. But no, no, no,
Speaker 2: the appreciate you. We got love versus money?
Speaker 4: Yep, all right, it is time for love versus money.
Speaker 4: This is my favorite part of the show. This is
Speaker 4: when I give you a couple and you decide is
Speaker 4: they there for the love or for the money. So
Speaker 4: we have Hailey Bailey and d d gyas both.
Speaker 5: I think they were in a relationship for both reasons.
Speaker 5: They both were successful. Apparently they were attracted to each other.
Speaker 5: I felt like they loved each other. It seem like
Speaker 5: they don't broke up.
Speaker 1: No, but I don't know what. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a ploy. I don't know if this is bait. Well,
Speaker 1: they deleted all day, she deleted.
Speaker 2: Man, I wonder what happened. Man, I will say it's
Speaker 2: for love. I could tell they really loved each other.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can I be honest, Can I tell
Speaker 1: you what?
Speaker 2: I don't know what they say in this this movie.
Speaker 2: The eyes Chico, they never lie, the eyes Chico.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's he really loves her.
Speaker 1: I believe, and she like a good girl, she's successful.
Speaker 2: They're so they're super young, and I feel like that's
Speaker 2: super young love. It's hard to really stay on the
Speaker 2: course of you know what. I'm just with you. You're
Speaker 2: still learning yourself, you're changing, you're involving, especially when you
Speaker 2: have a kid. A woman goes through a lot of
Speaker 2: body changes. Mental man, I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: handle this.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's real love because I feel like
Speaker 3: it may not be Okay, go ahead, this this is
Speaker 3: just my take.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 3: She kind of catapulted his career and to a mainstream
Speaker 3: level because he was just a YouTuber.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, he was just a YouTuber, Yes he was.
Speaker 2: He had he had a wreck, He had a record
Speaker 2: on the radio. What songs I can't name.
Speaker 3: The name three d G d d G songs.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's that one song that was took to it
Speaker 2: and off.
Speaker 1: What we can't do?
Speaker 2: What we can I feel like he had some good record.
Speaker 5: We can't some people look by us if we can
Speaker 5: uh name the song name of the song. Because apparently
Speaker 5: whatever he did, he got past a lot of other
Speaker 5: niggas with money and got to her who was who
Speaker 5: was having real big motion and money.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind she was, she was.
Speaker 4: She was a fan of his YouTube show, and that's
Speaker 4: how they ended up getting together.
Speaker 2: But that, okay, so whatever I was just saying, that
Speaker 2: wasn't just his only occuation.
Speaker 4: Okay, what I'm saying was she was in a Little Mermaid,
Speaker 4: you know the Little Mermaid.
Speaker 2: Okay, she hasn't been motion just was what.
Speaker 1: We gotta be got damn. In the Marvel movie facts Okay.
Speaker 4: If that ain't the case, then I'm saying, I'm saying,
Speaker 4: but why she why she ain't going date a regular guy?
Speaker 5: Well, maybe let's say this, that's that's the same thing
Speaker 5: I just said. Maybe because look at the people that
Speaker 5: she's around. You think that these other guys weren't trying
Speaker 5: to get to it. They also them girls was protected.
Speaker 5: It was very protected for a long time for a
Speaker 5: long time. So people that might have been trying to
Speaker 5: get it her, they probably couldn't even penetrate for real,
Speaker 5: for real. But were her interests lied? Were her true
Speaker 5: interests lie like you just said, because I don't know,
Speaker 5: but she really liked him, and she always like then
Speaker 5: she's gonna gravitate to what she likes.
Speaker 1: And if that is like, oh hell yeah, boom, we
Speaker 1: got hey, we gotta assume.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but you know what, last thing I would saying.
Speaker 4: Last thing I would say is I really hope that
Speaker 4: they didn't that they didn't break up, because we have
Speaker 4: this whole narrative of black man. As soon as the
Speaker 4: girl get pregnant, we leave, after the baby, come, we out,
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 1: So I just I just hope that's that's that's not
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Think that's a race specific because boy, I know a
Speaker 2: lot of races be doing the same. It'd be a lot.
Speaker 2: I think that's ill.
Speaker 4: Just be looking at the you know, I'd be looking
Speaker 4: at the comments and saying, you know, listen, bro, one kid,
Speaker 4: having one kid, Bro, it changes things.
Speaker 2: It does it changes everything.
Speaker 1: Sleep, and then how you view each other, how you rock.
Speaker 2: Let's say quality time.
Speaker 1: Say you my partner and were rocking out. Just what
Speaker 1: we do. Me and my girl we go and gets
Speaker 1: we go, get fucked up. That's what we do.
Speaker 2: We gonna do the money.
Speaker 1: No, we can't do that no more.
Speaker 5: And then and then what happens is now I even
Speaker 5: got to slow down doing what I'm doing because with my.
Speaker 2: Camera, my camera on. You know, I had a whole
Speaker 2: family t you know, I was on vacation, on vacation
Speaker 2: with the kids and call that. You can hear me
Speaker 2: in there. Did you know I had no cudding. I
Speaker 2: was on vacation in Disneyland, no cudding, and my wife
Speaker 2: got a nice little little little Georgia peak back then.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I could barely get a
Speaker 2: feel why because my babies was crying all the middle
Speaker 2: of night.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry.
Speaker 2: The other one, Daddy, I need some ran out of
Speaker 2: robus here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta prepare for you got you gotta get your.
Speaker 2: Had some kids, situationships in that house. And he over
Speaker 2: here like damn, what the hell going on?
Speaker 1: So you said he He's like, I gotta go.
Speaker 5: No, because I'm just saying automatically that he left on
Speaker 5: his own.
Speaker 1: What if? What if the whole concept happened.
Speaker 5: I had the child in the first place because of
Speaker 5: a Disney contract. That was a major blow to her.
Speaker 5: That was I said, maybe, no, no, maybe maybe because
Speaker 5: idea that's right on the surface level. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 5: like baby, but it could be like no, it wasn't that.
Speaker 5: It was something else.
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, hey, I gotta I gotta do something. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I gotta do something the kid.
Speaker 5: I gotta do what you're gonna go?
Speaker 1: Shoot the move.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm making money every day doing these podcasts
Speaker 5: because he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, many fact and what happens.
Speaker 2: I got twenty thousand dollars play tomorrow.
Speaker 5: But not only that, I got your lifestyle and my
Speaker 5: lifestyle is combined. Right, But guess what I got These
Speaker 5: two cars out here, they farms, They costs and the
Speaker 5: insurance on the costs and the gads go with them
Speaker 5: is premium and my clothes.
Speaker 1: So now it turns into what we're doing.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, Like it's so many variables.
Speaker 2: I just be like, you know, a kid.
Speaker 5: Right, it's a lot, because a lot to say if
Speaker 5: it ain't the kid, Yeah, what if it just turns
Speaker 5: into like, you know what, we're just bad office friends.
Speaker 5: We've we've grown, we've evolved, we've been talking about.
Speaker 2: That's what I said. When you're young, When you're young,
Speaker 2: I feel like when you have a when you're a
Speaker 2: lot older age or very seasoned, you've done been through
Speaker 2: some ship right right, you know exactly what you want.
Speaker 2: You know what you'll put up with. You'll know what
Speaker 2: you'll deal with when you're a kid. When that kid,
Speaker 2: when you're younger, you you don't even know who slick,
Speaker 2: who you're going to become until you be coming. Yeah
Speaker 2: and I listen, I'm gonna give your flowers. Bro, you
Speaker 2: have matured so much since I've known you, know you
Speaker 2: just like, hey, now this guy right here, job bro,
Speaker 2: Like like from when I first met you to now, Bro,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think you would be as mature as
Speaker 2: you are now. You still got a lot of work
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Me neither.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying you're doing a great job. But yeah, man, John,
Speaker 2: we appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you job. My pastor was calling, we gotta get
Speaker 1: to work anyway.
Speaker 2: We're on the radio too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everything everything good at home now, Everything is good.
Speaker 2: Wife is cool. Yeah. I do like how you're smart.
Speaker 2: Smart man. You talk about your family, talk about your wife,
Speaker 2: you talk about your things on.
Speaker 1: Your radio show, and you're in control of your own narrative. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: good job. I just think, thank you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know what, sometimes man, we
Speaker 1: we we we lose out.
Speaker 5: We lose out on the real of what we're really
Speaker 5: going through because we're trying to go through so many
Speaker 5: filters in this filtration process of what I think the
Speaker 5: world want to hear about.
Speaker 1: Well, the truth of the matter. We could talk about all.
Speaker 5: The good ship that happens in your life on a
Speaker 5: day to day basis, but everybody ain't experiencing good ship
Speaker 5: on a.
Speaker 1: Day to day basis, right about the one thing? One
Speaker 1: thing about it is. People do go through hardships, people
Speaker 1: do go through heartbreaks, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And if you could be open, honest, and transparent about
Speaker 5: those very common things that we all go through as
Speaker 5: coming people, you will see that more people can relate
Speaker 5: to you than trying to filter it out because then
Speaker 5: you get it's this mystique and some people like I
Speaker 5: like to keep them guessing. Yeah, okay, Well while they're guessing,
Speaker 5: somebody over here is fucking winning because they're being open
Speaker 5: and honest.
Speaker 1: For sure.
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