1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is short stuff, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: the shortest stuff of all about Jack Lopes. Do you 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: hear that siren? No? Do you hear now? No? Do 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: you hear it now? No? Now I do? Yeah. Do 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: you remember, Chuck? There was a period of time where 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the fire department would layer down the street every time 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: we recorded. It was weird, like there was either somebody 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: who kept like faking a sprained ankle at the same 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: time on the same day every week, or they were 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: testing something out that we're not familiar with, but it 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: happened a lot. Yeah. That that was when we just 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: started podcasting, and they were like, go in that closet. 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: And then it got to be a little bigger and 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: they were like, well, I guess you guys should at 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: least be in that dumb office. And then after a 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: little while longer, eventually they're like, Okay, I guess we'll 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: put up a studio. Yeah, they said, it's just like 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: that too. They're so upset, And now look at us. 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: Now we're like podcasting from home, speeding towards twenty years 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: in our basement, yeah, that's right. All right, So jackal opes. Uh, 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: if you listen to our Taxidermy episode Taxidermy, no, no, no no, 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: it was regular Taxidermy. Oh well, we've done one on 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: rogue Taxidermy too, haven't we. We covered that in Taxidermy. 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: I don't know if we did a stand alone we 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: may have. All right, okay, go ahead, I'm sorry. But 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: either way it was in both, then this might be 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: take three. But if you've never seen a jackalope, just 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: pull your car over. If you're at home, just type 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: in jackalope. They're fairly familiar here in the United States 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: as sort of kitchy um art that you can hang 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: on your wall. Jackallyps are not real. It is a 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: combination a taxidermy combination of a rabbit or a hare 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: with antlers. And I grew up seeing them here and 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: there at roadside diners or if you travel out west 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: or something like maybe a hotel lobby wall, and and 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing with jacolypse is always that you try 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: to convince somebody that it's a real thing. Yeah, it's 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: very annoying, like that's a really annoying, unnecessary part of 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But it's a Wyoming tradition. From what 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I understand, it's the snipe hunt of wall Art. That's 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: exactly right. Um. And there's lots of legends and tall 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: tales about the jaclopes that they have really nice singing voices, 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: and that in particular, if you're out on the range 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and you have a campfire going, you start singing cowboys 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: songs that from out in the out in the bush brush, 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: they'll start singing in. They'll join in on the course 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: and everything, which is kind of adorable. They're also supposedly 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: cousins to big Foot. Um. They're pretty great and probably 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: the cutest mythical creatures there are. Um. But they actually, 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: as far as the New York Times I think reported 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen, there's actually like a real life origin story 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: to them that we may or may not have discussed before, 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: but we're definitely going to again here. That's right. The 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: origin story is I think very well vetted. Uh. This 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing where it seems like it 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: could be because there's just so much, um, so many 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: tall tales surrounding jackalopes. That seems like the kind of 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: thing where the origin could be very highly suspect. But 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: it seems like, this is totally real. And the Herrick 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: brothers H E, R, R, I, C K and Wyoming, 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: And we should mention Wyoming is very much into their 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: jackalopes because of this, because they were where it all started. Yeah, 64 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: if you look at the Wyoming Lotteries logo, there's a 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: jackalope on. Yeah, it's a big deal in Wyoming. As 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, there's at least five times. Uh, 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: the Wyoming legislature has tried and failed for some reason. 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't get it to make the jackalope Wyoming's official 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: state mythological creature. Maybe they're trying to really govern and 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: do something that matters. I guess so. I suspect Liz 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Cheney is killing this every time. I don't know why, 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: but I do. Uh. So the Herrick brothers, you know what, 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: maybe we should take a break and leave a cliffhanger 74 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: as to what they actually did. Okay, it's short stuff. 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: Why not? Well, now we're on the road driving in 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: your truck. Want to learn a thing or two from 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Josh can Chuck. It's stuff you should know, all right, 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: all right, it's quite a cliffhanger. I know about the 79 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Herrick brothers, H Douglas Herrick. He was born in Douglas, 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Wyoming in nine. He's in the Air Force during World 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: War Two and then worked as a pipe fitter and 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: was a big hunter because he is in Wyoming and 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of people that are into that there. 84 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: And his brother Ralph, they got into taxidermy at an 85 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: early age and had their own taxidermy shop. And as 86 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: legend goes, one day, one of these brothers, and it 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: was the year is kind of um debatable, could be 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty nine or forty is what I've heard. 89 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: One of them came back from a hunt, had this 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: jack rabbit slid it across the table and it hits 91 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: little dead head slid and perfectly met a pair of antlers, 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: and one of them said they check that out, and 93 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the other one said that's awesome, and that was it. 94 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: That was it. They said, well, we're taxidermists, we might 95 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: as well make this happen, and they did. It's a 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: very sad origin story because of the dead rabbit, but 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: other than that, it's pretty cool. They made one. They 98 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: actually just made one, I guess from that rabbit and 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: those antlers and um, there was a guy named Roy Ball, 100 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: who had a hotel in Douglas, Wyoming, who got wind 101 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: of the brother's little invention, and he bought it off 102 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: of them for ten bucks back in again nineteen thirties 103 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: at the latest, which is substantial um. And he put 104 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: it up in his hotel and it became uh basically 105 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: a little legendary piece of like you call it wall 106 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: art uh. And it stayed there for a good three 107 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: maybe four decades, and then someone actually stole it off 108 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the wall and was it was never never found out 109 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: who did it. It was never recovered. The original jackalope 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: maybe in somebody's garage or attic or even maybe on 111 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: their wall somewhere out there, and they may not even 112 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: know that this is the original jackalope that the Herrick 113 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: brothers created. So this is where I have to confess, 114 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: because every time I was researching this, when we got 115 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: to this part, I kept thinking of the story. In college, 116 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: I stole something with my friends and I in college 117 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: one time when we were out doing bad things and 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: a night out and Athens, we took a stuffed porcupine 119 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: from a bar that was hanging on the wall, and 120 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: that porcupine lived in our apartment for about six months 121 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: before we returned it. Oh you did return it? Huh yeah, 122 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: we read it well. When we moved out, we're like, 123 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: what do we do with the porcupine? What bar was it? 124 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I want to say it was Gus Garcias. Do you 125 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: remember that place? No? I remember it was that the 126 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: same thing as Guesses maybe, I think so. I've only 127 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: heard of it referred to as Gusses. Yeah, that's probably 128 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: one of those things where you knew the cool kid 129 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: name and I was older and more square, so I 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: called it by It's a given name. So so how 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: did you guys return it? We have to know. I 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: believe it was like, um, you know the fine upstanding 133 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: thing that you do when you go and throw it 134 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: at the front door and run with a note through 135 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: one of the quills that said like, you know, we 136 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: took this six months ago, sorry, signed anonymous. At least 137 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: you gave it back to Gus Garcia. Yeah. So somebody 138 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: stole that original jackalope and did not even have the 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, the fourth rightness to throw it on the 140 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: front porch at that hotel. So it remains gone. Man, 141 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: do you remember Uptown Lounge in their happy hour with 142 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: fish bowl Margharita's. I don't remember going to the happy 143 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: hour there. Oh it was insane. Athens is a lot 144 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: different now, Yeah, I know when you were there. Oh, 145 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember what we passed through there for about 146 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: three or four years ago. Okay, not too bad. I 147 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: still go occasionally, and um, yeah, it's a lot different 148 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: grown up, A lot can still porcupines willy nilly anymore. No, 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: there's no college shenanigans. Everybody's like an activist and interested 150 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: in like important things, and we're like basically like animal 151 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: house or something. Pretty much. That was what we were 152 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: like in college. Uh So, Yeah, this original Jackalope was stolen, 153 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and like you said, they never caught the thief. But 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: this kind of kick started a thing for the Herrick 155 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: family and they started making and selling these things. I 156 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: don't I tried to find out if they held any 157 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of weird patent or not, or if they were 158 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: knockoff jacko loobes. But they sold tens of thousands of these, 159 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: which I really have to point out here. We're talking 160 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: about tons of thousands of dead rabbits and dead deer, 161 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: some of which may never have been otherwise dead had 162 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: it not been for the jack Lope craze. Yes, I 163 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: think it had it's worth remarking. I don't want to 164 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: be a downer here because I know it's all sweet 165 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: and cute and hot like they like to to to 166 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: put the hurt and on tourists brains with, you know, 167 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about it's real or whatever. But a lot of 168 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: rabbits and and Dee or died because of this, this 169 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: whole idea like it's real dead is what it is 170 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: exactly just for this rogue Taxadermy No, I agree. I 171 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: love those rabbits. I don't want to see him hanging 172 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: on a wall with antler sticking out of their heads. No, 173 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: let the rabbits live. But Douglas, I think, uh wall 174 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: drug in Wyoming, which has a giant jackalope. There no 175 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: wal drugs in North Dakota. Oh it is okay. So 176 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: they became a distributor and they have a giant jackalope. 177 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: So eventually, when Douglas Herrick, the initial jackal oper died 178 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand three, I think his son was interviewed 179 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: by the New York Times and said that they were 180 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: selling it looks like, you know, fifteen to two thousand 181 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: of these a year just a wald drug. Yeah, yeah, 182 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: it's a lot of rabbits. It is a lot of 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: I feel like we've really kind of taken this thing 184 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: on a nose dive, but um, I feel like we 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: could also take it on an even bigger nose dive 186 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: in a second, chuck, let's do it with the shop 187 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Papioma virus. Uh. It's so sad to look at these pictures. 188 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: It is sad, but it's also fascinating. It's much more 189 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: gratifying to look at um botanical or not botanical biological 190 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: um Yeah, botanies just plants, biological um or like nature 191 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: illustrations of it. Yeah, the um it's related to HPV 192 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: and it's an affliction that can cause rabbits to develop 193 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: these horns, their tumors basically, and they can come out 194 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: of their face looking like a little horns. So there 195 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: are pictures of rabbits with all these horny spikes thrusting 196 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: from their face and heads, and it's just look a 197 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: lot like war hogs. Yes, sort of like a rabbit 198 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: war hoog. And like, what's what's interesting to me? There's 199 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: actually one in the Smithsonians collection, their animal collection, dead 200 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: animal collection, I should say, um and that they that 201 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have informed the Herrick brothers creation of 202 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: the jackalope. Those are two different things, but there was 203 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a period of time. I think the first sightings are 204 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: described in the sixteenth or seventeenth centuries. Yeah, the seventeenth 205 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: century um that that people wondered if there was a 206 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: species of rabbit out there that had horns or antlers. 207 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: And it's just totally tangential to the invention of the jackalope, 208 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, and even tangential not even 209 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: connected in any way. And that's jack galobes, that is 210 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: jack lops. If you want to know get to know jacklebs. 211 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: You could do worse than traveling to Douglas, Wyoming, which 212 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: is the official, as proclaimed by Wyoming Governor Ed Herschler, 213 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: home of the jacklope. That's where they hail from. And again, 214 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: you could go play some scratch offs in Wyoming with 215 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: their lottery and see jackalope. Yeah, and you can even 216 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: buy a little fun fake jackalope hunting license. Yeah. I 217 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: thought that was kind of adorable, which is not real obviously. 218 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I think they grant hunting from sunrise to sunset on 219 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: one day a year. Yeah, but it's a day that 220 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: doesn't even exist June thirty one, but it coincides with 221 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: Douglas is Um Jackalope Days festival, which I think is 222 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: held in June as well. So if you're all about 223 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: the Jackalopes, yeah, killing rabbits, they do. And we also 224 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: have to give a shout out, which we probably did 225 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: in the Taxidermy episode two to our from Van Nostrin 226 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: who once had a band called the Jacklyps. Remember that's right, 227 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and also shout out to one of the nicest hotels 228 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: I've ever stayed in on our Australia tour on our 229 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: down days, the Jackalppe Hotel. Oh is that right? Yeah? 230 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: That was amazing. I could see Australians loving the jack Lope, 231 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: but it's probably actually real in Australia. That's right. Um, 232 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. Chuck doesn't have anything more. 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