WEBVTT - Power Hungry Democrats 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:16.480 You are entering the freedom hunt. Michael Cohen gets sentenced 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.360 to prison and General Flynn is asking for no prison. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.239 We will break down how these deep state machinations are 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.400 playing out against Trump's inner circle. Also, will there be 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.920 a shutdown or not? Will we get a wall or not? 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:33.640 Going to get into all that, I'm more coming up 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.159 on the buck Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.159 Show where the mission or mission is to decode what 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:47.319 really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, You're 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:52.400 a great American. Again, the buck Sexton Show begins as 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.920 Welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Everybody, quite a day 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:08.680 to day, quite a day. Indeed, we have more information 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.160 about General Flynn and what happened to him. And we 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:18.760 also have the at least for now final results in 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.160 of the whole Cohen Michael Cohen trial, right, the chief 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.640 advisor to President, chief legal advisor President Trump in his 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:34.240 private life for many years. But the Flynn, the Flynn 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.280 request for leniency today which was followed with the court. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.840 Does a MAMO read through it today? And we'll also 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.760 be joined by Andy McCarthy later to work through some 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.160 of us. I mean, this is this is appalling It's 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:53.120 disgusting what these Hillary Clinton loving leftist deep state petty 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.160 tyrants have done here to a good man who didn't 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.920 service country for like a day here or there, thirty 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:08.000 years multiple combat zone deployments against all odds, is an 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.040 early friend to President Trump in the campaign, joins with 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.680 Trump and then becomes the National Security advisor, and they 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.440 just can't take it, they can't accept it, so they 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.520 decide to go after him. I remember General Flynn went 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.080 and he had his show, I mean his book, Field 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.280 of Fight. We had him on this show early on 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.600 the campaign, but people didn't think that the Trump administration 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.280 was ever going to be a thing. He was right 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.240 there alongside the president and that's where and he gave 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.680 the president national security credibility, which the left just hated. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.799 And the establishment, you know, and the kind of centrist 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.840 quasi republican democrats, you know, people of the kind of 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.560 commist ilk if you will, those who have claimed to 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.040 be Republicans but really are no meaningful way conservative or 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:02.320 limited government constitutionalists. They're really just establishment terians. They hated Flynn, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.880 and now we see what they did. Now we have 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.040 a better sense of just how it is that they 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.919 set him up. Make no mistake about it. This was 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:22.000 a setup, okay. This was they intended. They intended to 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:26.000 get the result they did, which was a criminal prosecution 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.560 of the incoming national security advisor. Right away. This is 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.919 from the court document from Flynn's legal team, and none 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.560 of these facts are in dispute. None of this is 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.160 me just guessing, spitballing. No, no, this is a matter 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:47.000 of record. Here is what they did to this American 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:52.520 patriot as payback for being a part of the movement 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:58.800 that stopped Hillary Clinton from inflicting herself that just corrupt 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.920 lying roneist from inflicting herself upon us for another eight years. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.760 This is from the document file in court today. Quote 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.800 at twelve thirty five pm. On January twenty four, twenty seventeen, 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.920 the first Tuesday after the presidential inauguration, General Flynn received 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.560 a phone call from then the Director of the FBI, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.120 Andrew McCabe, on a secure phone in his office in 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.200 the West Wing. General Flynn had for many years been 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.279 accustomed to working cooperation with the FBI on matters of 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.640 national security. He and mister McCabe briefly discussed a security 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.760 training session the FBI had recently conducted at the White 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:44.200 House before mister McCabe, by his own account, stated that 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.919 he quote felt that we needed to have two of 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.360 our agents sit down with General Flynn to talk about 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:57.640 his communications with Russian representatives. This was a conversation among 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.560 government peers. This was supposed to be people on the 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.279 same team talking, and now we don't have a transcript 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:09.680 of what McCabe. Oh, by the way, a multiple liar 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.279 under oath and therefore should be multiple felon who wants 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.719 to guess whether they'll be criminal charmed is filed against 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:20.120 McCabe by the DOJ. I'm guessing no. But he lied. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.320 He liked three times. According to Inspector General. He lied 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.320 under penalty of perjury. Why isn't McCabe, Oh, that's right, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.000 McCabe won't get prosecuted because this is all about getting Trump. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:37.719 This is a disgrace. It's disgusting what these people are 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.599 doing to this administration and by extension, to all of 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.599 the people who voted for this administration, who believe in 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.320 it and hope for the best for our country. As 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:56.520 a result of Donald Trump's win over Shillary Clinton, General 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.840 Flynn was made to believe that he was just having 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.120 a normal casual talk as the National Security Advisor with 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:08.120 subordinate federal employees. I'm sure McCabe said something to belong. Yeah, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.840 you know, there's this thing about you and the ambassador. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.000 Let's you know, let's just let's just sit and just 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.039 you know, our guys just wanted we just need to 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.440 go on the record with that. Just tell us some 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.800 of the stuff and you know, no big deal, no 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.800 big whoop. Okay, mister mccab's this goes back now of 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.080 the court documents. Mister McCabe's account states quote, I explained 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.480 that I thought the quickest way to get this done 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.839 was to have a conversation between General Flynn and the 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.640 agents only. I further stated that if Lieutenant General Flynn 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.240 wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 White House Counsel, for instance, that I would need to 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.240 involve the Department of Justice. General Flynn stated that this 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.160 would not be necessary and agreed to meet with agents 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:58.599 without any additional participants. So KG McCabe here says, look, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.840 you know, we're just we're just gonna send over a 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.600 guys are gonna talk to you about this. Oh yeah, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.600 that training we did last week wasn't that great? You're 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.560 so great, Gennial Flynn. You know, is we gotta have 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.119 you know, our kids should go, should you know, get together. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.240 We should play little baseball in the weekend. Sometimes soon 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.960 we're just gonna send over a couple of FBI guys. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.280 They just kind of talk to you about this thing. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.120 Nobody dealing. Oh no, no no, you don't want to have 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.080 lawyers there, man, that's gonna make it because then I 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.680 gotta send the lawyers. And you know, we're just gonna 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.680 have a talk. It's fine, don't worry about it. It'll 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.960 be over in five minutes. Now you can say, well, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.559 Buck Flynn just shouldn't have Flint shouldn't lie. He should 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.200 know he should. First of all, Flynn's not a law 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.360 enforcement guy. Very different s guilty. He's a military man. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.320 He's about facing down our enemies on the battlefield and 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.880 you know, our side versus their side. He's not used to, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.160 you know what goes on here with these FBI types. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:52.280 He's not somebody who's dealing with the tools of law 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:59.440 enforcement that often involve dissembling, lying, presenting yourself under false pretenses. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.200 And this is all set up. Remember he's not accused 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.640 of treason. He's not accused of some serious crime. The 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.040 pretext for this need to talk to him in the 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:18.600 first place is that little Resistance Payne sally Yates with 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.320 their whole all the logan acting maybe the Russians can 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.880 can blackmail him because he lied about the conversation with 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.760 the ambassador, which they can't blackmail him over that. He'd say, Yeah, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:32.120 I misremembered that. Their whole premise here is bull. It's bull. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.120 They're gonna blackmail. I'm up. You'd better tell you better 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.599 give us all the secret nuclear colds or else we 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.240 are growing to tell people that you you lied about 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:47.080 your conversation about non criminal activity with the Kisel. Yet, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.240 he'd be like, all right, I just would say that 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.959 I you know, I misremembered that it was a conversation 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.120 on the phone. I didn't remember. It's no big deal. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.920 I didn't send uh, you know, I didn't think it 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.520 was it was going to be any issue. That's that's 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:06.040 not blackmailable, that's not blockmailable. It's just not. But so 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.440 why and the DJ would know that, So why would 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.240 they say it was They're worried up blockmail. They need 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:15.520 in an excuse this was all about the excuse to 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.000 put Flynn in a situation where they could get him. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.480 They don't do You don't do this too. He wasn't, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.240 by the way, Oh let me let me get into 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.200 the details here. But you know this isn't done within 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.480 the federal government to each other. Whenever, I mean, I 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.520 remember I had to sit through a couple of hearings 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.440 for a few different things, and MYPD side, CIA side, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.800 and whenever there was this, we got the security folks, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.720 internal watchdog folks talking to your Look, you were told, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.920 you were told. You know, they're not. They don't send 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.080 some guy undercover into your office to talk to you 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:49.959 with the water cooler and try to find out, you know, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.319 are you are you committing like time and attendance fraud 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.319 or something that that's not how they do this. All right, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.640 more into the so so, McCabe obviously tried to get 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.280 the situation to be exactly what it was, which was 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:10.120 that he sent struck McCabe a liar and a Hillary partisan, 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.520 Struck an anti Trump lunatic. These are the two people 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:15.959 that are involved in this so far, and some other 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.240 FBI agent that's not yet really named or known. But 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:25.280 he said Struck, the anti Trump freak, to go and 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:30.680 talk to Flynn, made sure that there was no counsel 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.120 in the room with him whatsoever. You know how many 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.560 you know how many lawyers when Struck, Oh, that's right. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.480 Another time when he's at the nexus here, what does 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.400 the FBI only have four people? Because when you look 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.280 at Hillary and you look at Trump and the key 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.200 points here in these investigations, there's only a few people 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:52.560 that seem to matter, and they're anti Trump pro Hillary maniacs. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:59.439 What a shock. When Struck interviewed Hillary about her emails, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:05.520 she had nine lawyers at my account in the room. Okay, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:10.320 she had an army of lawyers with her. She was 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.120 allowed to have Cheryl Mills, who was her white i 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.960 mean her State department chief of staff, in the room 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:22.760 with her, coordinating with her as her lawyer. Meanwhile, she's 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.880 actually a part of the she should be a part, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.800 she should be a target of the investigation. They're treating 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.920 her like she's Hillary's lawyer. They bent over backwards to 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.319 make sure that Hillary would have no problems, and they 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.320 went in the complete opposite direction with Flynn and with 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.120 everybody associated with the Trump That much is Claire but 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.520 hearing more about the details here that came out. This 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.240 all just came out today in the Flynn in the 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:52.679 Flynn sentencing less than two hours later, this is after 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.719 the meeting FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Struck and a 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:57.840 second I'm sorry, this is right before the meeting, and 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.480 a second FBI agent arrived at the White House to 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.280 interview General Flynn. By the agent's account, General Flynn was 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.560 relaxed and jocular and offered to give the agents a 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.360 little tour of the area around his West Wing office. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 The agents did not provide General Flynn with a warning 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.040 of the penalties for making a false statement under eighteen 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.280 USC one zero zero one, before, during, or after the interview. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.959 Prior to the FBI's interview of General Flynn, mister McCabe 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.000 and other FBI officials decided the agents would not warn 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.880 Flynn that it was a cry to lie during an 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.840 FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.760 they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.679 the rapport. One of the agents reported, yeah, they were 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.760 setting him up before the interview. FBI officials also had 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.880 to decide that if Flynn said he did not remember 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.559 something they knew he said. They would use the exact 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.160 words Flynn used to try to refresh his recollection. If 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.680 Flynn still would not confirm what he said, they would 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.280 confront him or talk him through it. One of the 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.040 agent's reported that General Flynn was unguarded during the interview 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:09.320 and clearly saw the FBI agents as allies. They had 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:15.240 the transcript. They had the transcript of what comes from 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:21.000 counterintelligence collection that was leaked to the press, probably by 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.920 one of these names we already know in this whole debacle, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:30.800 one of these anti Trump deep state DOJ lunatics, and 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:36.360 then they use information from a counterintelligence investigation to try 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.360 and trap the incoming national security advisor, speaking to him 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:46.920 under at least softened, if not false pretenses. Why would 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.840 Why would if McCabe had any interest at all, any 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.800 interest at all in trying to protect a decorated war 0:13:54.920 --> 0:14:02.280 hero and veterans career and reputation and life. Because Flynn's 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:07.439 life is being ruined by this. McCabe is a decade 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.800 long FBI guy. He would know. Of course, you have 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.600 a lawyer in the room. Of course you have a 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:19.080 lawyer in the room. McCabe set him up. McCabe set 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.560 him up because him and his wife wanted Hillary to win, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.280 and Struck and these other little petty tyrants from within 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.600 the federal bureaucracy. They think that they're setting it all 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.560 right by stopping Trump, by taking down his people, but 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:40.000 in the process, you know, they've shown themselves to be dishonorable. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:46.520 These people have no honor. A person with honor would 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.400 not be able to do and as senior FBI officer, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.240 would not be able to set up General Flynn the 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:58.600 way they did. These individuals Struck McCabe and others involved 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.480 in this, Yates, comey, the whole crew. They are a 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.440 disgrace to this country, and along with Brennan, they have 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:10.000 disgraced law enforcement, the intelligence community. I don't even feel 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.160 as proud of my intelligence community service as I used to, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.280 because now everybody realized that these places are run by maniacs, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:24.760 by left wing collectivist tyrants. We'll have more on Flynn 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.880 with Andy McCarthy. You know, I'll put all my theories, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.320 all my thoughts on this to the test with Andy, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.240 will ask what he thinks about this. He's always very 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.880 fair minded, he was, He said, Okay, let's see what 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.000 the Special Council does in the beginning. Never forget that 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.160 Andy used to come on this show and he was 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.360 willing to give them a fair shot. And now he's 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.240 about as a pall as I am. And he worked 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.000 in the Southern District of New York for almost thirty years, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.520 and he used to tell me he was a hard prosecutor. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.120 You did not want to get Andy if you were guilty. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.080 He's told me that many times. We'll talk about the 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.280 con sentencing today, tell you how much time he got 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:58.720 in case you don't know, and what we can make 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.840 of that. And then we got the border and the 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.840 shutdown and show his jam. So stay right there, team, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:10.760 I'll be back. And I will also note, with great irony, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.520 Michael Cohen well report to federal prison exactly one year 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.880 after we filed the case on behalf of Stormy Daniels. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:26.240 Michael Cohen was sentenced today. Donald Trump is next. That's 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:32.480 right left wing hero Avanati having a let's taking a 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.280 little victory lap there while while Cohen's wife and children 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.160 are shattered and crying, you know, because remember Cohen didn't 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.720 murder anyone, he didn't kidnap anyone. He didn't you know, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:46.960 he didn't bludgeon anyone, didn't steal from anyone, lying, paperwork fraud, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.920 tax fraud, that's basic. That's basically what he's guilty of. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.080 I'm not saying that's okay, but I don't think you 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.280 have to, you know, hide, hide the women and children, folks. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.160 You know, Michael Cohen's out and about, Oh no, what 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.480 are we gonna do? Avanati? By the way, wasn't he 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.720 accused of felony domestic violence recently? Yeah? That guy also 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:11.400 the one who came forward with the incredibly fraudulent claims 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.240 of the third accuser, Julie Sweatneck, who was just a huge, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.680 crazy liar going after Brett Kavanaugh. That's right, she was 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.960 a liar, isn't it? Isn't it good to just be 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.119 able to say what's true? Doesn't it feel nice to 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.760 hear what's true? Oh? Are you calling her? Yes? She 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.119 was a liar? Yes, Christine blasi Ford either delusional or 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:37.520 a liar. Michael Cohen saying that or Michael Cohen rather 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.720 got got three years three years, which is, you know, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.959 thirty six months at the pretty low end of things here. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.680 People are saying that maybe he'll maybe he'll even have 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.960 more information for the Special Counsel. They're all hope, hope, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.960 hoping there's more information for the Special Counsel. I just 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.080 know that Muller's trying to drag this thing out as 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.560 long as possible. He at least has to wait until 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.600 the new Congress comes. And this is my thinking because 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.560 because then people will forget about. When you get Pelosi 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.760 and all the crazy Dems going after Trump and everybody 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.280 around him with subpoenas, then Muller can That's when Muller 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.440 can wind it down. Not gonna wind it down before then, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.920 not gonna wind it down before the end of January, 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.959 and probably not even for a month or two into it, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.679 because he's gonna wait until the Democrats, you know, then 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.560 they're the check on Trump. That's the way this is 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.880 going to be talked about. He doesn't have the goods, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.560 he doesn't have collusion. We all know it. This whole 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.640 thing is I'd just call it a farce, but it's 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:33.520 nothing funny about it. It's really just dangerous, destructive. Why 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.359 did Trump have a lawyer like Cohen near him? You know, 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.520 he liked the guy, and look, Colin was clearly a 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:44.040 liability but I can understand personal personal loyalties a liability 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.960 in my own life. Sometimes it's it's a thing that 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.040 you gotta deal with. So what really happened with General Flynt? 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.000 Why is he now in a position after decades of 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.640 serving his country, after being in multiple combat zones, after 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.440 running the Defense Intelligent saying she incoming natural security advisor, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.040 and now he's begging, essentially a judge not to send 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.959 him to prison. What really went down here? We've got 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.359 somebody who can look between the lines and through the 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.359 lines and tell you exactly what's happening here. Andy McCarthy 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.920 is with us now Scores, a Fox News contributor, also 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.160 of National Review, where he's doing a lot of great writing. Andy. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:25.760 Thanks for coming back. Andy, you know there's so much. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.040 Let me just give the floor to you first, because 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:32.119 I have some specifics about the Flynn sentencing request memo 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.040 that's out there. I read through. I read through it 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:35.520 today up to the point where it was all the 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.320 letters of people that are saying he's a great guy. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.560 Because okay, he's a great guy. But there were some 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:45.480 interesting takeaways. What was your biggest takeaway? Well, obviously, one 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.879 of the things that I've been complaining about since the 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.720 beginning of the Flynn investigation is what was the basis 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.879 for investigating him? And I think what we saw was 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:00.000 that there was not only you know, no real basis 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.720 for an investigation. In fact, when the Senate or I'm sorry, 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.720 the House Intelligence Committee looked at this, they asked a 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.560 bunch of different witnesses, I think three or four different witnesses, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.960 what was to predicate for the Flynn investigation. They got 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.359 three or four different answers. Nobody can nobody can seem 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.479 to give a good reason for it, and that I 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.040 think shows in the way they treated him. But at 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:29.479 the beginning, by basically deciding that they were going to 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.919 orchestrate an interview that would have been in pursuit of 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.640 a criminal investigation without a crime, but try to make 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.760 him think it wasn't a criminal interview. It was just 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.960 going to be him talking to a couple of veteran agents, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.600 no problem, just the basic information thing to clear up 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:54.040 a few things about Russia. And he was obviously discouraged 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.000 even from involving White House lawyers, let alone his own lawyers. 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:02.560 And it's a real departure from the FBI's normal procedures. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.360 Where when they're going to conduct the criminal investigation, everybody 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.960 acts on the up and up, and they tell the 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.199 person they're in interviewing, here's the reason why we're talking 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.800 to you today, that it's a criminal investigation. They make 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.160 it clear to him that, you know, among other things, 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.720 he's got a right to talk to council and to 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.320 have somebody else's presence at the interview. That's pretty standards fair. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.760 But here they essentially, as I see it, discourage him 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:34.199 from having any help at the interview. And is it 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.600 fair in your estimation to say, and this is a 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.760 conclusion that I've drawn in this, but now I feel 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:41.239 more strongly about it. But I want to know if 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.880 I'm getting ahead of where this is that if Sally 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:48.920 Yates helped push this along at DJ under the Logan 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:53.680 Act theory, that that's just acting in bad faith. Yeah, 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:58.040 I agree with that. I think fuck that. As I've 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.240 said all along, the Logan Act is not only utimate 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:05.520 reason to open a criminal investigation against anyone because they 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.640 don't prosecute it. It's been on the books for more 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.080 than two centuries. It's never been successfully used in a 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.920 criminal prosecution. But if you're going to dust it off 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.480 and try to use it despite all the constitutional objections 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.080 to it. The place not to use it, and let's 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.359 make sure our listeners know the Logan Act purports to 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:30.560 make it basically illegal for American citizens to involve themselves 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:35.600 in foreign relations without the government's permission. The one place 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.760 that you wouldn't want to invoke it if you were 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.760 going to, in a novel way invoke it, would be 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:47.159 a situation where you have a transition official for an 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.159 incoming administration who's not only the high transition official, but 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:56.159 is actually the designated incoming National security advisor whose sub 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.639 is to deal with foreign governments, among other things. And 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.919 now you're going to say it's illegal for him to 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:06.320 be having contacts with foreign portance. That's insane. It is 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.959 insane and that and we're at the insanity level here, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.719 which is I think so important for everybody to know. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.679 And with more facts, I would note this whole effort 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.400 to get Flynn looks even worse. There's been nothing ever 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.639 since they brought this charge that makes me think, oh wow, 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.680 maybe maybe Flynn, you know, really did do something here 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:27.159 that was egregious instead of misrememory. You know, Andy, A 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.320 question I have for you. You know, so when I 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.880 was in the CIA, if I lied to somebody else 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.080 in the CIA, as far as I knew, I probably 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.600 wasn't going to be guilty of of of a crime. Right, 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.280 So if I lied to one of my colleagues when 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.040 about some issue of work, Um, you know, if I 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:44.920 said I told the President this, and I actually didn't 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.000 tell the President this, and they're not gonna they're not 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.200 gonna jam me up for that. How do they draw 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.280 this line? You know, when when are you in jeopardy 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.119 speaking to a federal And I wasn't law enforcement obviously 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.919 in that capacity, But when when do you actually have 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.879 that jeopardy in place? Because what it sounds like to 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.280 me is that they made it seem like Flynn was 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.879 talking as an FBI guys to just set something straight, 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.280 and so he thought he was talking to colleagues. Yeah, 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.399 that's exactly right, And in fact, it's in some ways 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.720 worse than that, Buck, because this is if I'm remembering right, 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.439 this is like the third or fourth day on the 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:24.040 job for Flynn. Yep, the first Tuesday after the transition, right, 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:28.560 So he's having the you know, he's having multiple meetings 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.520 as the new national security advisor. So who does he 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.000