1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,708 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,788 --> 00:00:21,708 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,508 --> 00:00:27,428 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football, great morning to talk about football, indeed 4 00:00:27,468 --> 00:00:30,588 Speaker 2: live in both LA and New York City. It is Tuesday, 5 00:00:30,708 --> 00:00:33,948 Speaker 2: Novernment twelfth. This is Isaiah Standback, ak Bar Baja Biamilla 6 00:00:33,988 --> 00:00:36,308 Speaker 2: in his seat, Peter Scheger and Kyle Brant holding it 7 00:00:36,348 --> 00:00:39,588 Speaker 2: down to New York and I'm Jamie Erdall back from Germany. 8 00:00:40,188 --> 00:00:43,668 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate Guten Morgan right. It was Guten 9 00:00:43,748 --> 00:00:45,028 Speaker 3: Dog when I did the show there. 10 00:00:45,588 --> 00:00:47,148 Speaker 2: I think the last eight days of my life though 11 00:00:47,188 --> 00:00:49,268 Speaker 2: I've lived the NFL fans dream because like I did, 12 00:00:49,268 --> 00:00:52,228 Speaker 2: the Minnesota thing eight days ago still rattling around my 13 00:00:52,268 --> 00:00:54,508 Speaker 2: head is like top five life moment. And then Germany 14 00:00:54,548 --> 00:00:56,548 Speaker 2: and I'm back. I'm not leaving again for quite some time. 15 00:00:56,588 --> 00:00:58,708 Speaker 2: No one can get rid of me now. But it 16 00:00:58,748 --> 00:01:01,308 Speaker 2: all provides good stories and good context for the show. 17 00:01:01,348 --> 00:01:03,548 Speaker 3: But I did miss everybody. I really did to see you. 18 00:01:03,668 --> 00:01:04,628 Speaker 4: That's very nice. 19 00:01:04,708 --> 00:01:06,868 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, here in New York we see the Jets and 20 00:01:06,908 --> 00:01:09,268 Speaker 5: the Giants on Sunday and it's a different kind of 21 00:01:09,268 --> 00:01:10,148 Speaker 5: fan experience. 22 00:01:10,428 --> 00:01:12,948 Speaker 4: Jamie, I hope you've lived a life. Now we're here 23 00:01:12,948 --> 00:01:13,388 Speaker 4: in New York. 24 00:01:13,428 --> 00:01:14,308 Speaker 6: It hasn't been so pretty. 25 00:01:14,468 --> 00:01:14,628 Speaker 5: Yeah. 26 00:01:14,668 --> 00:01:16,788 Speaker 2: Well, I had to watch the Giants and from behind 27 00:01:16,788 --> 00:01:18,348 Speaker 2: their bench, I was a sign of their sine line 28 00:01:18,388 --> 00:01:19,748 Speaker 2: and I took We had to go to a different 29 00:01:19,748 --> 00:01:22,068 Speaker 2: country to watch that unfold. We'll talk about it, Joe Shane, 30 00:01:22,108 --> 00:01:24,148 Speaker 2: their GM is speaking today. I'm sure we'll hear more. 31 00:01:24,348 --> 00:01:26,428 Speaker 2: But what happened last night on Monday Night football. 32 00:01:26,148 --> 00:01:27,628 Speaker 4: Kyle, Let's do it. 33 00:01:27,708 --> 00:01:32,428 Speaker 7: Guten tag Guten Morgan Gutenberg number five is alive. We 34 00:01:32,508 --> 00:01:36,468 Speaker 7: love Steve Guttenberg, we love Mahoney, and we love Maggie Stafford, 35 00:01:36,668 --> 00:01:38,428 Speaker 7: especially when he's winning, which is he has been doing 36 00:01:38,468 --> 00:01:38,988 Speaker 7: since the buy. 37 00:01:39,108 --> 00:01:42,948 Speaker 4: The Dolphins have been losing. This was not the game 38 00:01:42,988 --> 00:01:43,828 Speaker 4: of the year, I'm. 39 00:01:43,748 --> 00:01:45,348 Speaker 7: Going to put it that way, but it was an 40 00:01:45,348 --> 00:01:47,988 Speaker 7: important game for both teams. The Dolphins didn't play particularly well. 41 00:01:47,988 --> 00:01:50,028 Speaker 7: They scored twenty three points, but they won by eight. 42 00:01:50,468 --> 00:01:52,908 Speaker 7: No onside kick at the end, and the Rams are 43 00:01:52,948 --> 00:01:54,828 Speaker 7: real in trouble now. The Dolphins still are too, but 44 00:01:54,828 --> 00:01:56,668 Speaker 7: at least they stayed alive there afterwards. 45 00:01:56,908 --> 00:01:58,508 Speaker 4: Let's hear from both quarterbacks. 46 00:02:00,548 --> 00:02:03,268 Speaker 8: We've come a long way through, however, many losses in 47 00:02:03,308 --> 00:02:07,268 Speaker 8: a row. The resilience of this team, with the external noise, 48 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:11,228 Speaker 8: everyone counting us out. You know, hopefully this is an 49 00:02:11,268 --> 00:02:15,348 Speaker 8: opportunity for us to to not waste, you know, hopefully 50 00:02:15,348 --> 00:02:17,268 Speaker 8: we can go on a on a run with this 51 00:02:17,348 --> 00:02:21,468 Speaker 8: win and find our rhythm towards the back end of 52 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:21,908 Speaker 8: the season. 53 00:02:21,908 --> 00:02:25,108 Speaker 9: Now, tonight it was you know, a little bit of 54 00:02:25,108 --> 00:02:26,188 Speaker 9: this one, a little bit of that, right, we got 55 00:02:26,228 --> 00:02:27,908 Speaker 9: a sudden change. We turn it back over. I turned 56 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:31,348 Speaker 9: it over earlier with the tip you know, tip interception. 57 00:02:32,548 --> 00:02:34,348 Speaker 9: You know, did some really good things and then uh, 58 00:02:34,868 --> 00:02:36,828 Speaker 9: you know, weren't weren't good enough in samarias. So yeah, 59 00:02:36,828 --> 00:02:38,148 Speaker 9: I would say tonight we were inconsistent. 60 00:02:40,428 --> 00:02:42,308 Speaker 5: All right, Let's look at the playoffs here for the 61 00:02:42,428 --> 00:02:44,988 Speaker 5: for the NFC, because they got interesting. The Rams were 62 00:02:45,268 --> 00:02:47,188 Speaker 5: sneaking in there, three wins in a row, and then 63 00:02:47,188 --> 00:02:49,708 Speaker 5: this happens, and you're back to the to the Bears 64 00:02:49,708 --> 00:02:53,148 Speaker 5: and Seahawks level. Buccaneers have lost four straight. They're still 65 00:02:53,188 --> 00:02:55,108 Speaker 5: alive though at four and six. But you look at 66 00:02:55,108 --> 00:03:01,628 Speaker 5: that wildcard, those three teams there, Vikings, Commanders, Packers. 67 00:03:01,628 --> 00:03:02,308 Speaker 10: That over in the. 68 00:03:02,268 --> 00:03:06,948 Speaker 5: AFC, it's even more interesting because you've got three AFC West. 69 00:03:06,628 --> 00:03:07,468 Speaker 4: Teams in right now. 70 00:03:07,468 --> 00:03:09,068 Speaker 5: The Chiefs, of course, the one, but the six and 71 00:03:09,108 --> 00:03:12,908 Speaker 5: the seven, the Chargers and the Broncos. Broncos tough loss 72 00:03:13,228 --> 00:03:15,108 Speaker 5: the last two weeks they've lost, so the Ravens and 73 00:03:15,108 --> 00:03:16,628 Speaker 5: the Chiefs but are still the playoff team. 74 00:03:17,108 --> 00:03:19,388 Speaker 4: And the Dolphins still alive at three and six. 75 00:03:19,708 --> 00:03:22,188 Speaker 5: Heck, the Patriots and Jets are still alive at three 76 00:03:22,348 --> 00:03:23,948 Speaker 5: and seven. 77 00:03:23,948 --> 00:03:25,028 Speaker 10: Interesting playoff picher. 78 00:03:25,148 --> 00:03:27,588 Speaker 5: A lot of these teams squaring off not only this weekend, 79 00:03:27,748 --> 00:03:29,548 Speaker 5: but over the next several weekends. 80 00:03:30,028 --> 00:03:33,388 Speaker 2: All right, Clockett the start of the second hour on 81 00:03:33,428 --> 00:03:36,188 Speaker 2: a Tuesday, maybe the earliest we ever flipped. 82 00:03:35,868 --> 00:03:37,188 Speaker 3: The page to the next week. 83 00:03:37,228 --> 00:03:40,988 Speaker 2: But the thing is, there's so many matchups next weekend. 84 00:03:40,988 --> 00:03:44,228 Speaker 2: This is a quantity and a quality situation happening with 85 00:03:44,268 --> 00:03:47,708 Speaker 2: week eleven. Three massive games on the schedule. So we're 86 00:03:47,708 --> 00:03:49,948 Speaker 2: just gonna spin the bottle and you pick the game 87 00:03:50,068 --> 00:03:52,588 Speaker 2: that you want to snuggle up with this weekend. The 88 00:03:52,628 --> 00:03:56,228 Speaker 2: Commanders are at the Eagles Thursday night, the Steelers taking 89 00:03:56,268 --> 00:03:58,868 Speaker 2: on the Ravens, and the Chiefs are in Bills are 90 00:03:58,908 --> 00:04:01,748 Speaker 2: going to one hundred percent of the country on CBS. 91 00:04:01,748 --> 00:04:04,708 Speaker 2: So you've got those three games to look at. One 92 00:04:04,908 --> 00:04:07,668 Speaker 2: that you have your eye on to start our week Peter, 93 00:04:07,908 --> 00:04:10,708 Speaker 2: it is too early, never too early to talk about 94 00:04:10,708 --> 00:04:11,708 Speaker 2: one of these games. 95 00:04:12,348 --> 00:04:15,668 Speaker 5: How many chapters of Ravens Steelers do we need? Like 96 00:04:15,828 --> 00:04:18,868 Speaker 5: every year they play twice, and yet there is this 97 00:04:19,028 --> 00:04:23,028 Speaker 5: library of John Harball versus Mike Tomlin and this one, 98 00:04:23,068 --> 00:04:26,068 Speaker 5: of course, as we enter Week eleven, is maybe the 99 00:04:26,148 --> 00:04:30,828 Speaker 5: spiciest matchup of the NFL weekend. The Steelers have this 100 00:04:30,908 --> 00:04:33,308 Speaker 5: incredible seven to two record, yet they have not played 101 00:04:33,308 --> 00:04:36,068 Speaker 5: a single game in the division yet, so their whole 102 00:04:36,268 --> 00:04:40,468 Speaker 5: entire Divisional six games slate awaits them. They still have 103 00:04:40,508 --> 00:04:43,348 Speaker 5: to play all of those games as they come. And 104 00:04:43,468 --> 00:04:46,828 Speaker 5: yet the Ravens come in here fresh off one of 105 00:04:46,868 --> 00:04:51,628 Speaker 5: their best Divisional wins in many seasons, outlasting and coming 106 00:04:51,748 --> 00:04:53,828 Speaker 5: back over the Bengals on Thursday. 107 00:04:54,468 --> 00:04:56,468 Speaker 4: I love the Russ and Lamar matchup. 108 00:04:56,468 --> 00:04:57,948 Speaker 5: They do all have a long history, but they do 109 00:04:57,988 --> 00:05:01,628 Speaker 5: have a very very important game for Lamar Jackson's career. 110 00:05:01,668 --> 00:05:05,388 Speaker 5: I go back to twenty nineteen. It is a fourth 111 00:05:05,508 --> 00:05:08,948 Speaker 5: down back before everyone went on fourth down, and John 112 00:05:08,988 --> 00:05:11,588 Speaker 5: Harball looks at Lamar Jackson late in this. 113 00:05:11,588 --> 00:05:14,228 Speaker 6: Game and Lamar Jackson's like, I want to go for it. 114 00:05:14,268 --> 00:05:18,628 Speaker 5: Tied at thirteen thirteen, Lamar Jackson on a fourth down goes. 115 00:05:18,308 --> 00:05:20,548 Speaker 4: For it cool the Ravens convert. 116 00:05:20,628 --> 00:05:24,748 Speaker 5: This was during Lamar's MVP season up in Seattle. Lamar 117 00:05:24,828 --> 00:05:28,188 Speaker 5: would finish with the win, but Russell Wilson had an 118 00:05:28,188 --> 00:05:31,628 Speaker 5: outstanding game that day, going twenty forty with two hundred 119 00:05:31,628 --> 00:05:34,588 Speaker 5: and forty one yards. Also had three carries for twenty 120 00:05:34,628 --> 00:05:37,628 Speaker 5: seven yards the game. After that, words, Pete Carroll said 121 00:05:37,668 --> 00:05:40,188 Speaker 5: of Lamar, He's as good as we've ever seen. 122 00:05:40,508 --> 00:05:42,188 Speaker 4: He's as fast as we've ever seen. 123 00:05:42,308 --> 00:05:45,108 Speaker 5: He's tough, he's physically he's explosive, he's creative, and. 124 00:05:45,108 --> 00:05:46,388 Speaker 4: Now he's throwing the ball too. 125 00:05:47,028 --> 00:05:53,028 Speaker 5: That guy's was five years ago before another MVP season. 126 00:05:53,068 --> 00:05:55,348 Speaker 5: That was during the first one, and now you've got 127 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:58,868 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson who is now on his third team. I'm 128 00:05:58,908 --> 00:06:02,988 Speaker 5: here for Lamar versus Russell Wilson. It is Steelers Ravens week. 129 00:06:03,028 --> 00:06:04,828 Speaker 5: It can never be too early to hype this up. 130 00:06:04,988 --> 00:06:06,948 Speaker 5: I know it's just Tuesday morning, but if you are 131 00:06:06,988 --> 00:06:09,308 Speaker 5: a fan of football, this is when you are circling 132 00:06:09,388 --> 00:06:10,468 Speaker 5: nice one o'clock start. 133 00:06:10,548 --> 00:06:11,108 Speaker 4: Let's go. 134 00:06:11,308 --> 00:06:14,348 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm filling the energy from that game. 135 00:06:14,828 --> 00:06:17,548 Speaker 6: There's another game that's giving off a different type of energy. 136 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:20,028 Speaker 6: These are two top dogs who are facing up against 137 00:06:20,068 --> 00:06:23,428 Speaker 6: each other. It's the Kansas City Chiefs going to Buffalo 138 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:26,028 Speaker 6: to go up against the Bills. And we know right 139 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:28,428 Speaker 6: now at this point, they're undefeated at home, and I 140 00:06:28,548 --> 00:06:30,708 Speaker 6: know that they have their injuries at the wide receiver 141 00:06:30,788 --> 00:06:35,308 Speaker 6: position with a Coleman and of course Cooper, but the 142 00:06:35,508 --> 00:06:38,908 Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs, I am so concerned. I already and 143 00:06:38,948 --> 00:06:41,268 Speaker 6: I stand on the on the ground, on this ground 144 00:06:41,348 --> 00:06:43,148 Speaker 6: right now, and I'm telling you that I believe that 145 00:06:43,188 --> 00:06:44,428 Speaker 6: they will stay undefeated. 146 00:06:44,708 --> 00:06:46,908 Speaker 10: But I am concerned. I am concerned. 147 00:06:46,908 --> 00:06:49,388 Speaker 6: And the concern is that they've been playing sloppy and 148 00:06:49,628 --> 00:06:52,268 Speaker 6: they haven't been playing the way we are accustomed to 149 00:06:52,308 --> 00:06:55,828 Speaker 6: seeing the Chiefs play. We've seen some really some chinks 150 00:06:55,868 --> 00:06:58,548 Speaker 6: in the in the armor, and especially when you look 151 00:06:58,588 --> 00:07:00,828 Speaker 6: at the tackle position where they've got a young rookie 152 00:07:00,948 --> 00:07:01,948 Speaker 6: who's trying to fill in. 153 00:07:02,028 --> 00:07:03,548 Speaker 10: And then I think about the pass. 154 00:07:03,348 --> 00:07:06,468 Speaker 6: Rush that the Bill spring if they start to create 155 00:07:06,508 --> 00:07:08,748 Speaker 6: a little bit more havoc. Now, all of a sudden, 156 00:07:08,788 --> 00:07:11,388 Speaker 6: now we're at jeopardy. I'm at jeopardy because I know 157 00:07:11,508 --> 00:07:13,948 Speaker 6: I've said and I've said that they're gonna stay undefeated. 158 00:07:14,988 --> 00:07:16,988 Speaker 6: I'm concerned that they are not going to be able 159 00:07:17,028 --> 00:07:20,228 Speaker 6: to deliver up there in Buffalo with the type of 160 00:07:20,428 --> 00:07:22,348 Speaker 6: energy that they're playing with. I'm looking at this last game. 161 00:07:22,388 --> 00:07:24,028 Speaker 6: I'm looking at Josh Alla's got a chip on the 162 00:07:24,028 --> 00:07:26,988 Speaker 6: shoulder and he plays angry. He should be another angry runner. 163 00:07:27,068 --> 00:07:29,148 Speaker 6: The dude has something to prove, and I think going 164 00:07:29,228 --> 00:07:31,508 Speaker 6: up against Patrick Mahomes, I believe he's gonna bring his 165 00:07:31,548 --> 00:07:33,548 Speaker 6: a game, But ultimately it's gonna come down to the 166 00:07:33,628 --> 00:07:34,948 Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs defense. 167 00:07:35,068 --> 00:07:36,428 Speaker 10: Who will dominate this game? 168 00:07:37,588 --> 00:07:37,788 Speaker 8: Yeah? 169 00:07:37,988 --> 00:07:40,828 Speaker 5: So are you saying the defense is gonna dominate or 170 00:07:40,828 --> 00:07:41,708 Speaker 5: the Bills are gonna win? 171 00:07:41,788 --> 00:07:45,348 Speaker 10: Ocbar, I'm sound concerned. You said undefeated. 172 00:07:45,788 --> 00:07:49,788 Speaker 6: Yes, the Chiefs are gonna win, But I am concerned. 173 00:07:49,948 --> 00:07:52,668 Speaker 6: I am just concerned, like you can be concerned, right, 174 00:07:52,788 --> 00:07:56,108 Speaker 6: like you buy house insurance because you're concerned that there 175 00:07:56,148 --> 00:07:57,788 Speaker 6: could be a possibility. 176 00:07:57,188 --> 00:07:58,348 Speaker 10: To fund the going bad. 177 00:07:58,508 --> 00:07:59,908 Speaker 11: Right, that's good, that's good. 178 00:07:59,988 --> 00:08:03,508 Speaker 12: Right there, I'm gonna take this thing to the NFC East, Okay, 179 00:08:03,548 --> 00:08:07,388 Speaker 12: with the show down for the number one in that division, 180 00:08:07,628 --> 00:08:10,868 Speaker 12: the Washington Commanders versus the Philadelphia Eagles. 181 00:08:11,068 --> 00:08:11,988 Speaker 10: I personally think this. 182 00:08:11,988 --> 00:08:13,468 Speaker 12: Game is gonna come down to the battle of the 183 00:08:13,508 --> 00:08:16,268 Speaker 12: offenses and not just their quarterbacks. Okay, yes, we're gonna 184 00:08:16,268 --> 00:08:19,308 Speaker 12: be looking at Jayden Daniels versus Jalen Hurts, as we're 185 00:08:19,348 --> 00:08:22,588 Speaker 12: gonna be looking at the offensive coordinators and Cliff Kingsbury 186 00:08:22,788 --> 00:08:23,668 Speaker 12: and Kellen Moore. 187 00:08:24,028 --> 00:08:24,708 Speaker 10: Both of these are. 188 00:08:24,668 --> 00:08:26,108 Speaker 12: Gonna be matches that you guys need to be paying 189 00:08:26,148 --> 00:08:29,028 Speaker 12: attention to, especially the quarterbacks. Jaydon Daniels and Jalen Hurts. 190 00:08:29,068 --> 00:08:30,828 Speaker 12: I consider them both to be some of the best 191 00:08:30,828 --> 00:08:32,948 Speaker 12: bus drivers in the game right now. And that's not 192 00:08:32,988 --> 00:08:34,508 Speaker 12: the negative term. A lot of people go in and 193 00:08:34,508 --> 00:08:35,748 Speaker 12: put a negative connotation on that. 194 00:08:35,908 --> 00:08:36,228 Speaker 10: Obviously. 195 00:08:36,268 --> 00:08:38,428 Speaker 12: Here it's the officer coordinators right there. Since we're talking 196 00:08:38,468 --> 00:08:40,348 Speaker 12: the ocs, let's talking about the ocs. Both of these 197 00:08:40,348 --> 00:08:43,068 Speaker 12: guys are top ten and scoring. Kingsbury and the Commanders 198 00:08:43,068 --> 00:08:45,748 Speaker 12: are number three versus the Eagles are number nine. Okay, 199 00:08:45,788 --> 00:08:48,948 Speaker 12: they're scoring twenty nine points over in Washington, twenty six 200 00:08:48,948 --> 00:08:52,028 Speaker 12: points and over there for Philly. Eighteen rushing touchdowns for 201 00:08:52,068 --> 00:08:54,748 Speaker 12: the Commanders, sixteen rushing touchdowns for the Eagles. 202 00:08:54,788 --> 00:08:57,268 Speaker 10: Okay, they're both doing a heck of a job on 203 00:08:57,308 --> 00:08:57,868 Speaker 10: the ground. 204 00:08:57,988 --> 00:08:59,628 Speaker 12: So what happens when you have two teams that are 205 00:08:59,668 --> 00:09:01,508 Speaker 12: averaging over one hundred and fifty yards on the ground, 206 00:09:01,588 --> 00:09:03,988 Speaker 12: well you might want to turn to the qbs because 207 00:09:03,988 --> 00:09:05,628 Speaker 12: that's going to be the ones that are creating the 208 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:07,788 Speaker 12: difference there. I think both of these quarterbacks are gonna 209 00:09:07,788 --> 00:09:09,588 Speaker 12: have to do more than what's been asked of them 210 00:09:09,668 --> 00:09:12,868 Speaker 12: so so far this year over there, Jay Daniels has 211 00:09:12,948 --> 00:09:15,988 Speaker 12: nine touchdowns if through the air two interceptions. Jalen Hurts 212 00:09:15,988 --> 00:09:18,708 Speaker 12: has twelve and five. These guys got to do something 213 00:09:18,748 --> 00:09:22,028 Speaker 12: amazing because I think both running the rushing attacks are 214 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:24,308 Speaker 12: going to be stifled by their opposing defenses. 215 00:09:25,868 --> 00:09:28,228 Speaker 7: Listen, one of the games that we are actually not 216 00:09:28,228 --> 00:09:30,268 Speaker 7: talking about in this segment, what we will is Bears 217 00:09:30,268 --> 00:09:31,508 Speaker 7: Packers is this weekend. 218 00:09:31,588 --> 00:09:32,668 Speaker 4: You know what's going on with the Bears. 219 00:09:32,948 --> 00:09:36,148 Speaker 7: If you watched Matt Eberflus yesterday in his press session, he. 220 00:09:36,108 --> 00:09:38,068 Speaker 4: Didn't give any answers and you give any conclusions. 221 00:09:38,108 --> 00:09:41,148 Speaker 7: You just kept saying, we're evaluating, we're evaluating, we're evaluating. 222 00:09:41,468 --> 00:09:44,588 Speaker 4: Apparently the evaluating is finished because we have Mike Garriffolo here. Mike, 223 00:09:44,628 --> 00:09:47,588 Speaker 4: what's in the news right now? Yeah, this is the 224 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:48,308 Speaker 4: expected move. 225 00:09:48,348 --> 00:09:51,348 Speaker 13: After you heard eber Flewis talk to the media yesterday. 226 00:09:51,428 --> 00:09:52,468 Speaker 4: Kyle, you are correct. 227 00:09:52,948 --> 00:09:56,388 Speaker 13: Shane waldron out as offensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears. 228 00:09:56,428 --> 00:10:00,628 Speaker 13: That's according to our Tom Pellisero Thomas Brown, formerly a 229 00:10:00,628 --> 00:10:02,908 Speaker 13: play caller with the Carolina Panthers, there was a little 230 00:10:02,908 --> 00:10:04,228 Speaker 13: bit of an in and out with him when he 231 00:10:04,588 --> 00:10:07,308 Speaker 13: was in Carolina, will take over as. 232 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:07,828 Speaker 4: The play caller. 233 00:10:07,868 --> 00:10:10,548 Speaker 13: This is the thirtieth ranked offense in the league when 234 00:10:10,548 --> 00:10:12,468 Speaker 13: they put up three points the other day against the 235 00:10:12,468 --> 00:10:14,948 Speaker 13: New England Patriots. And it's not just hey, you've got 236 00:10:14,988 --> 00:10:17,548 Speaker 13: a rookie quarterback. You've got the number one overall pick 237 00:10:17,588 --> 00:10:20,508 Speaker 13: who was deemed by many to be a pro ready quarterback, 238 00:10:20,548 --> 00:10:22,268 Speaker 13: and you also have a ton of weapons around them. 239 00:10:22,308 --> 00:10:23,548 Speaker 4: They already started to build. 240 00:10:23,308 --> 00:10:27,108 Speaker 13: This offense before Caleb Williams arrived and only continued to 241 00:10:27,108 --> 00:10:27,748 Speaker 13: add to it. 242 00:10:27,708 --> 00:10:28,788 Speaker 4: This past offseason. 243 00:10:28,868 --> 00:10:31,628 Speaker 13: So the fact that the performance has not been there 244 00:10:31,708 --> 00:10:35,188 Speaker 13: and Caleb Williams has not performed up to some of 245 00:10:35,228 --> 00:10:37,388 Speaker 13: the other rookie quarterbacks. It's talking about Jayden Daniels. The 246 00:10:37,388 --> 00:10:39,308 Speaker 13: fact that he is off to a hot start with 247 00:10:39,348 --> 00:10:43,508 Speaker 13: the Washington Commanders made ibra Flus finally decide to get 248 00:10:43,588 --> 00:10:45,948 Speaker 13: rid of Shane Waldron. In this case, Waldron one of 249 00:10:45,948 --> 00:10:50,348 Speaker 13: the first offensive coordinators hired this past offseason. The performance 250 00:10:50,428 --> 00:10:53,668 Speaker 13: has not been there for the former Seattle Seahawks play caller, 251 00:10:53,748 --> 00:10:56,908 Speaker 13: so a change in play caller for the Chicago Bears, 252 00:10:56,748 --> 00:10:59,468 Speaker 13: as Matti Ebraflus tries to make a statement to retain 253 00:10:59,508 --> 00:11:00,628 Speaker 13: his job here down the. 254 00:11:00,548 --> 00:11:02,428 Speaker 11: Stretch of the twenty twenty four season. 255 00:11:03,628 --> 00:11:06,228 Speaker 7: Thank you Mike News, of course, and we go when 256 00:11:06,228 --> 00:11:08,268 Speaker 7: to football, they're not celebrate firings, but none of us 257 00:11:08,308 --> 00:11:10,748 Speaker 7: are surprised by this at all. Three points for the 258 00:11:10,788 --> 00:11:13,948 Speaker 7: Bears against the Patriots, nine points against the Cardinals. Fifteen 259 00:11:13,988 --> 00:11:16,108 Speaker 7: points is all they scored in the hil Mary loss. 260 00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:17,748 Speaker 7: And a lot of people say that Waldron should have 261 00:11:17,748 --> 00:11:19,988 Speaker 7: been let go after the offensive lineman got the carry 262 00:11:19,988 --> 00:11:20,868 Speaker 7: on the goal line. 263 00:11:21,308 --> 00:11:22,028 Speaker 4: I will just say this. 264 00:11:22,108 --> 00:11:25,908 Speaker 7: There's a very popular meme with Baine from Dark Knight 265 00:11:25,988 --> 00:11:28,388 Speaker 7: Rises where he says one of us has to stay 266 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:30,828 Speaker 7: in the wreckage, brother, and he leaves one behind. So 267 00:11:30,948 --> 00:11:33,228 Speaker 7: Shane Waldron has now stayed in the wreckage. And you 268 00:11:33,268 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 7: look to the head coach and the Bears are very 269 00:11:35,908 --> 00:11:37,868 Speaker 7: proud in their history that over a century they have 270 00:11:37,948 --> 00:11:41,908 Speaker 7: never let go of a head coach midseason. Mattyberflus remains 271 00:11:42,228 --> 00:11:44,388 Speaker 7: he will undoubtedly. 272 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:44,468 Speaker 4: Finish the season. 273 00:11:44,468 --> 00:11:46,708 Speaker 7: They could probably lose by fifty of the Packers. 274 00:11:46,308 --> 00:11:49,108 Speaker 4: This weekend, and he will stay on. You needed to 275 00:11:49,148 --> 00:11:51,588 Speaker 4: do something that doing nothing would have been lit. 276 00:11:51,348 --> 00:11:53,268 Speaker 7: Torches at Soldier Field and Hellas Hall. 277 00:11:53,428 --> 00:11:56,028 Speaker 4: So maybe there'll be a massive change. They're four and five. 278 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:57,268 Speaker 4: You try to spin it positive. 279 00:11:57,468 --> 00:11:59,348 Speaker 7: They never beat the Packers, but if they come in 280 00:11:59,348 --> 00:12:01,428 Speaker 7: and the offense looks fresh, maybe this is the move 281 00:12:01,708 --> 00:12:02,868 Speaker 7: that the kick starts them. 282 00:12:02,948 --> 00:12:03,148 Speaker 14: Yeah. 283 00:12:03,228 --> 00:12:06,508 Speaker 5: Thomas Brown was a running back at Georgia. He's had 284 00:12:06,508 --> 00:12:09,028 Speaker 5: an NFL career where he was with McVeigh in LA 285 00:12:09,308 --> 00:12:11,828 Speaker 5: and he was a hot name as the running backs 286 00:12:11,828 --> 00:12:12,548 Speaker 5: coach and the tight. 287 00:12:12,468 --> 00:12:13,988 Speaker 4: Ends coach with the Rams. 288 00:12:13,988 --> 00:12:16,268 Speaker 5: Got a lot of buzz when to Carolina when Frank 289 00:12:16,308 --> 00:12:18,948 Speaker 5: Reich built that crew's kind of bounced around. Since I 290 00:12:18,988 --> 00:12:21,828 Speaker 5: will say this, and this just goes back to the 291 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:24,868 Speaker 5: January hiring process, when you're doing all of this and 292 00:12:25,148 --> 00:12:27,308 Speaker 5: we don't pay much attention to who goes where as 293 00:12:27,348 --> 00:12:28,548 Speaker 5: far as coordinators go, we. 294 00:12:28,508 --> 00:12:31,268 Speaker 4: Focus on the head coaches. Get off of all this footage. 295 00:12:31,308 --> 00:12:33,028 Speaker 5: I want to talk to the camera because I want 296 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:36,428 Speaker 5: to tell you this. You give these three year deals 297 00:12:36,428 --> 00:12:39,068 Speaker 5: out for these coordinators, and you go through this whole thing, 298 00:12:39,068 --> 00:12:40,628 Speaker 5: and you let the head coach do the process and 299 00:12:40,628 --> 00:12:44,948 Speaker 5: what's comfortable. The Las Vegas Raiders had Cliff Kingsbury interview 300 00:12:45,028 --> 00:12:48,508 Speaker 5: twice in Las Vegas, and he sat with them twice. 301 00:12:48,628 --> 00:12:51,828 Speaker 5: The Chicago Bears traveled out to Chicago to LA to 302 00:12:51,828 --> 00:12:55,108 Speaker 5: meet with Cliff Kingsbury, who was with Caleb Williams at 303 00:12:55,188 --> 00:12:57,708 Speaker 5: USC and had a great relationship with Caleb. They did 304 00:12:57,748 --> 00:13:00,108 Speaker 5: an eight hour interview with Cliff Kingsbury in a suit 305 00:13:00,508 --> 00:13:02,988 Speaker 5: in Marina del Rey and thought, now you know what. 306 00:13:02,908 --> 00:13:05,028 Speaker 4: Shane Waldron's the better higher for us. 307 00:13:05,468 --> 00:13:07,788 Speaker 5: And then the Washington commanders were the ones who hired 308 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:09,948 Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury, who were doing flips about talking about who 309 00:13:09,948 --> 00:13:11,548 Speaker 5: he's going to be the next head coach of an 310 00:13:11,588 --> 00:13:14,868 Speaker 5: NFL team. It matters who these guys hires. It matters 311 00:13:14,908 --> 00:13:18,508 Speaker 5: when it's young quarterbacks. As we see Luke Getzi already 312 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:21,668 Speaker 5: fired in Vegas and we see now over here Shane 313 00:13:21,708 --> 00:13:22,948 Speaker 5: Waldron already. 314 00:13:22,588 --> 00:13:23,748 Speaker 4: Fired in Chicago. 315 00:13:24,148 --> 00:13:27,308 Speaker 5: The coordinators matter with these young quarterbacks as much as 316 00:13:27,308 --> 00:13:30,868 Speaker 5: the head coaches. Shane Waldron lasted just ten weeks with 317 00:13:30,908 --> 00:13:33,428 Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears, and they hired him to a three year, 318 00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:35,788 Speaker 5: guaranteed contract with hopes that he was going to be 319 00:13:35,828 --> 00:13:39,108 Speaker 5: Caleb's muse. It matters, guys, it matters who you hire, 320 00:13:39,148 --> 00:13:40,988 Speaker 5: and that's almost as important as a decision with a 321 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:42,668 Speaker 5: young quarterback as it is head coach. 322 00:13:42,748 --> 00:13:44,628 Speaker 2: I'm not Cliff Kingsbury, but that happened to me. I'd 323 00:13:44,628 --> 00:13:47,268 Speaker 2: be real annoyed. Why waste my time? 324 00:13:47,668 --> 00:13:48,428 Speaker 3: Would that be? 325 00:13:48,468 --> 00:13:50,508 Speaker 2: Soow the fact that Peter they're trying to reinvent the 326 00:13:50,508 --> 00:13:52,828 Speaker 2: wheel with Caleb Williams and they go with Shane Waldron instead, 327 00:13:52,988 --> 00:13:54,468 Speaker 2: and this is how it's panning out for them. 328 00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:58,188 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a big difference between coaching and teaching. And 329 00:13:58,228 --> 00:14:01,108 Speaker 6: I say this often in that people just think, hey, 330 00:14:01,148 --> 00:14:02,788 Speaker 6: you can coach a guy, and that just means you 331 00:14:02,908 --> 00:14:05,348 Speaker 6: understand the concepts and you can just throw it out 332 00:14:05,348 --> 00:14:07,628 Speaker 6: there and may here's the playbook. But when it comes 333 00:14:07,668 --> 00:14:09,708 Speaker 6: down to teaching the game and being able to put 334 00:14:09,748 --> 00:14:13,308 Speaker 6: your your star quarterback, your star player, your franchise guy 335 00:14:13,908 --> 00:14:16,948 Speaker 6: in position to teach him the game. Because as everyone 336 00:14:17,028 --> 00:14:20,668 Speaker 6: started to adjust to Caleb, we started to see the decline, 337 00:14:20,668 --> 00:14:22,908 Speaker 6: but also too, he needs to support when you look 338 00:14:22,948 --> 00:14:26,228 Speaker 6: at how they've been attacked offensively, like the dude is 339 00:14:26,308 --> 00:14:30,028 Speaker 6: constantly under duress. They have given up the second most 340 00:14:30,108 --> 00:14:32,788 Speaker 6: sacks this season, like thirty eight sacks. The dude can't 341 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:35,188 Speaker 6: stay off of his back. I mean, it's incredible. And 342 00:14:35,228 --> 00:14:37,668 Speaker 6: then you think about the passing yard they he doesn't 343 00:14:37,668 --> 00:14:39,468 Speaker 6: have enough time so he can't get the ball out. 344 00:14:39,628 --> 00:14:42,708 Speaker 6: They're averaging one hundred and sixty nine yards a game 345 00:14:42,868 --> 00:14:45,788 Speaker 6: in the air. That's just not elite enough, especially when 346 00:14:45,828 --> 00:14:48,188 Speaker 6: you have a Dooms, when you have Keenan Allen, when 347 00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:50,988 Speaker 6: you have these star wide receivers and more, not being 348 00:14:50,988 --> 00:14:53,148 Speaker 6: able to do that, to me, that's problematic. And I 349 00:14:53,188 --> 00:14:55,388 Speaker 6: think it has a lot to do with teaching than 350 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:58,028 Speaker 6: it does quote unquote coaching, and I separate the two. 351 00:14:58,188 --> 00:15:00,028 Speaker 6: Coaching is just that you know the game and you 352 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:02,868 Speaker 6: go here it is. Teaching is actually taking the players 353 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:06,148 Speaker 6: that you have and showing them how to work within 354 00:15:06,228 --> 00:15:08,268 Speaker 6: your system and developing their skills. 355 00:15:09,188 --> 00:15:11,388 Speaker 12: Yeah, when they when the Bears approach this offseason, they 356 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,068 Speaker 12: had one thing that they needed to address and that 357 00:15:13,148 --> 00:15:15,788 Speaker 12: was the offense. Right there, there there was questions revolving 358 00:15:15,788 --> 00:15:18,508 Speaker 12: around a quarterback position. There is questions revolving around the 359 00:15:18,628 --> 00:15:20,628 Speaker 12: around the running game, and whether or not they're gonna 360 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:22,148 Speaker 12: be able to move the ball. The one question they 361 00:15:22,148 --> 00:15:25,028 Speaker 12: didn't have was on defense. Defense was taking care of business, 362 00:15:25,108 --> 00:15:27,308 Speaker 12: and again this year, defense is taking care of business. 363 00:15:27,348 --> 00:15:30,188 Speaker 12: This is one of the least best defenses that are around. 364 00:15:30,428 --> 00:15:32,948 Speaker 12: So when you have all the issues that you need 365 00:15:32,948 --> 00:15:35,988 Speaker 12: to address offensively, and as a gym general manager in Chicago, 366 00:15:36,148 --> 00:15:36,948 Speaker 12: you address those. 367 00:15:36,988 --> 00:15:37,548 Speaker 10: You go out there. 368 00:15:37,548 --> 00:15:40,668 Speaker 12: You draft Capabiliams, you draft Romo Dunze, you go ahead 369 00:15:40,668 --> 00:15:44,068 Speaker 12: and you add veterans like Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, DJ Moore. 370 00:15:44,308 --> 00:15:46,828 Speaker 12: You add all these weapons. This is the most loaded 371 00:15:47,148 --> 00:15:49,308 Speaker 12: offense in the league when you start talking about personnel 372 00:15:49,388 --> 00:15:52,468 Speaker 12: on paper. So to have a defense that's playing lights out, 373 00:15:52,628 --> 00:15:54,708 Speaker 12: and to have an offense that on paper has all 374 00:15:54,748 --> 00:15:57,148 Speaker 12: the all the personnel that you need, then all you 375 00:15:57,148 --> 00:15:58,788 Speaker 12: can do is turn to the development. 376 00:15:58,828 --> 00:15:59,828 Speaker 10: All you can do is turn. 377 00:15:59,748 --> 00:16:02,588 Speaker 12: To the lack of production offense with the offensive play calling, 378 00:16:02,868 --> 00:16:05,028 Speaker 12: this has to be addressed. If they had addressed this, 379 00:16:05,028 --> 00:16:06,748 Speaker 12: this team is dangerous, but we haven't been able to 380 00:16:06,748 --> 00:16:08,988 Speaker 12: talk about it yet because offense never got off the ground. 381 00:16:09,508 --> 00:16:12,068 Speaker 2: Listen, it was not that long ago that Kayler Williams 382 00:16:12,108 --> 00:16:14,828 Speaker 2: had four touchdowns in London. He has not thrown a 383 00:16:14,868 --> 00:16:17,148 Speaker 2: touchdown since then. If anything, you got a coach up 384 00:16:17,188 --> 00:16:20,188 Speaker 2: consistency as well. So Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator for 385 00:16:20,228 --> 00:16:22,948 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, let go of his play calling duties 386 00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:24,148 Speaker 2: and his job in Chicago. 387 00:16:24,668 --> 00:16:25,788 Speaker 3: Att ebu Flus. 388 00:16:25,508 --> 00:16:28,388 Speaker 2: Makes that decision, as Peter said, ten weeks into the season, 389 00:16:28,428 --> 00:16:31,828 Speaker 2: that's it for Waldron. Thomas Brown, previously with Carolina now 390 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:34,228 Speaker 2: takes over for the Bears and working with Kayla Williams 391 00:16:34,348 --> 00:16:36,588 Speaker 2: and working to get that quarterback back on track. 392 00:16:36,748 --> 00:16:37,988 Speaker 3: Hey, we've got our head coach at. 393 00:16:37,908 --> 00:16:40,948 Speaker 2: The table, Ron Rivera, joining GMFB next. We had some 394 00:16:40,988 --> 00:16:43,028 Speaker 2: other topics, but I feel like we're going to do 395 00:16:43,028 --> 00:16:45,068 Speaker 2: a reroute and talk about this one with Ron Rivera. 396 00:16:47,708 --> 00:16:49,628 Speaker 2: This past weekend, the New England Patriots host of the 397 00:16:49,668 --> 00:16:52,268 Speaker 2: biggest flag tournament yet this season. There were nearly one 398 00:16:52,348 --> 00:16:55,988 Speaker 2: hundred total teams that competed in the event. The LFFL 399 00:16:56,108 --> 00:17:00,668 Speaker 2: High school girls out of Lemonster, Massachusetts dominated the competition, 400 00:17:00,708 --> 00:17:03,508 Speaker 2: scoring over one hundred points on opponents. Now and we'll 401 00:17:03,548 --> 00:17:07,028 Speaker 2: return to the champion ships present representing the Patriots to 402 00:17:07,228 --> 00:17:12,228 Speaker 2: find the league near you visit nflflag dot com. Here 403 00:17:12,268 --> 00:17:15,428 Speaker 2: we go breaking news at the table on GMFB, and 404 00:17:15,428 --> 00:17:17,828 Speaker 2: of course we have Ron Rivere here who at times 405 00:17:17,908 --> 00:17:20,228 Speaker 2: you show up, things happen moments. 406 00:17:19,828 --> 00:17:21,388 Speaker 3: Before you're supposed to be on the show. 407 00:17:21,668 --> 00:17:24,068 Speaker 2: And now we've got to talk about the Chicago Bears 408 00:17:24,068 --> 00:17:27,228 Speaker 2: and they've moved on from their offensive coordinator in Shane Waldron. 409 00:17:27,428 --> 00:17:29,108 Speaker 3: Is this a move that you expected and why do 410 00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:29,708 Speaker 3: you think they did? 411 00:17:30,068 --> 00:17:32,028 Speaker 15: You know it was something that was kind of expected. 412 00:17:32,308 --> 00:17:34,108 Speaker 15: The big reason, more so anything else, is they've got 413 00:17:34,148 --> 00:17:35,788 Speaker 15: to do something to live it up. If you don't 414 00:17:35,828 --> 00:17:38,188 Speaker 15: do anything at this point in time, players begin to wonder, 415 00:17:38,268 --> 00:17:40,788 Speaker 15: do you care about us? You know, we need to 416 00:17:40,828 --> 00:17:43,028 Speaker 15: do something, Do something that's going to be stark, something 417 00:17:43,028 --> 00:17:44,028 Speaker 15: that's going to get our attention. 418 00:17:44,268 --> 00:17:45,868 Speaker 14: And let's go forward. Look at what happened at New 419 00:17:45,948 --> 00:17:47,748 Speaker 14: Orleans this past weekend had. 420 00:17:47,588 --> 00:17:49,748 Speaker 15: A lot of energy so on I wish when you 421 00:17:49,748 --> 00:17:51,788 Speaker 15: guys mentioned the fact that this could be a spark 422 00:17:51,868 --> 00:17:54,228 Speaker 15: that gets them going, that's important. 423 00:17:54,268 --> 00:17:54,868 Speaker 14: It really is. 424 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,428 Speaker 15: And it's not just you know who you hire, but 425 00:17:57,588 --> 00:18:00,268 Speaker 15: is what do they do once you hire them? Okay, 426 00:18:00,548 --> 00:18:02,868 Speaker 15: we went through this with the number one pick. We 427 00:18:03,348 --> 00:18:09,868 Speaker 15: drafted Cam Newton, Okay, Rob Sazinski, Okay, Mike Shula, Scott Turner. 428 00:18:10,108 --> 00:18:12,908 Speaker 14: They go down to Auburn, They meet with Auburn. 429 00:18:12,708 --> 00:18:15,148 Speaker 15: They talk about what they did, how they did it, 430 00:18:15,348 --> 00:18:17,148 Speaker 15: and then they took what they believe were the best 431 00:18:17,188 --> 00:18:21,228 Speaker 15: things from that that Cam Newton did and integrated them into. 432 00:18:20,988 --> 00:18:22,988 Speaker 14: Our offense, the offense that we were going to use. 433 00:18:23,028 --> 00:18:25,388 Speaker 15: So we're taking guys and we weren't putting them in 434 00:18:25,468 --> 00:18:27,908 Speaker 15: something that was new and different. We were putting him 435 00:18:27,908 --> 00:18:30,468 Speaker 15: in something that was familiar. And then we added to 436 00:18:30,508 --> 00:18:33,148 Speaker 15: it as well, and he adapted very very quickly. 437 00:18:33,468 --> 00:18:35,548 Speaker 14: I'm not saying Shane didn't do that. Maybe he needs 438 00:18:35,588 --> 00:18:36,508 Speaker 14: to do that. Maybe that was. 439 00:18:36,508 --> 00:18:39,788 Speaker 15: Something that you should have done, because once you get there, now, 440 00:18:39,828 --> 00:18:41,228 Speaker 15: how are you going to handle them? Are you going 441 00:18:41,308 --> 00:18:44,388 Speaker 15: to try and put somebody into a into something he's 442 00:18:44,428 --> 00:18:46,708 Speaker 15: not comfortable with and teach them all over again. 443 00:18:47,188 --> 00:18:47,748 Speaker 14: You know, it's interesting. 444 00:18:47,788 --> 00:18:51,748 Speaker 15: I had a conversation with with Cliff Kingsbury about what 445 00:18:51,788 --> 00:18:54,588 Speaker 15: he did and how they did things with Jayden. 446 00:18:54,628 --> 00:18:55,548 Speaker 14: That's exactly what he did. 447 00:18:55,588 --> 00:18:58,508 Speaker 15: He goes down to LSU, he looks at a bunch 448 00:18:58,508 --> 00:19:01,108 Speaker 15: of their tape, talks to the coaches, and he took 449 00:19:01,188 --> 00:19:04,268 Speaker 15: those things that he did there and integrated into his 450 00:19:04,748 --> 00:19:07,988 Speaker 15: He also took the virtual reality stuff and they used 451 00:19:08,028 --> 00:19:09,908 Speaker 15: that and got it for him as well. And now 452 00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:11,748 Speaker 15: all of a sudden, you've got a young man who's 453 00:19:11,788 --> 00:19:14,188 Speaker 15: growing and developing very very quickly because he's in some 454 00:19:14,268 --> 00:19:16,988 Speaker 15: familiar surroundings, even though it's a new staff that he's 455 00:19:17,028 --> 00:19:17,508 Speaker 15: working with. 456 00:19:18,988 --> 00:19:21,908 Speaker 5: Hey Ron, I look at the situation now. Look, Shane 457 00:19:21,908 --> 00:19:25,388 Speaker 5: Waldron and Thomas Brown were together with the Rams under McVeigh, 458 00:19:25,428 --> 00:19:28,028 Speaker 5: so they have a great relationship. And Thomas Brown was 459 00:19:28,068 --> 00:19:30,868 Speaker 5: one of Shane's hires. He came in with him. Is 460 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:33,588 Speaker 5: there like I look at last year for example, when 461 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:36,588 Speaker 5: the Bills and Brandon Bean was the GM, but of 462 00:19:36,588 --> 00:19:39,428 Speaker 5: course Sean McDermott had to let go of Ken Dorsey. 463 00:19:39,348 --> 00:19:41,788 Speaker 4: But Joe Brady, who was assistant, was elevated and they 464 00:19:41,828 --> 00:19:42,908 Speaker 4: got a kind of a kickstart. 465 00:19:43,148 --> 00:19:45,188 Speaker 5: Is there as a coach like a survivor's guilt when 466 00:19:45,668 --> 00:19:48,108 Speaker 5: one of the coordinators is fired but the guy he 467 00:19:48,188 --> 00:19:50,748 Speaker 5: brought in now gets the big job. What's the feeling 468 00:19:50,748 --> 00:19:53,268 Speaker 5: in the building amongst the coaches when that goes down? 469 00:19:53,908 --> 00:19:55,628 Speaker 15: Well, you know, there really isn't that much of a 470 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:59,348 Speaker 15: feeling unless somebody feels somebody undercut somebody, and that's probably 471 00:19:59,348 --> 00:20:01,468 Speaker 15: not what I'm not saying that happen here. What I'm saying, 472 00:20:01,508 --> 00:20:03,708 Speaker 15: more so than anything else, is you have to do 473 00:20:03,788 --> 00:20:07,108 Speaker 15: something to get it kickstarted. Maybe Thomas will look at 474 00:20:07,148 --> 00:20:09,268 Speaker 15: things differently, look at from a different angle. I know 475 00:20:09,388 --> 00:20:11,708 Speaker 15: I did that at one point in my career when 476 00:20:11,748 --> 00:20:15,428 Speaker 15: I was in San Diego. We let the defensive coordinator 477 00:20:15,508 --> 00:20:19,148 Speaker 15: go and they promoted me to defensive coordinator, And first 478 00:20:19,148 --> 00:20:21,948 Speaker 15: thing I did was approached it differently. You know, we 479 00:20:22,028 --> 00:20:23,828 Speaker 15: got together and we talked about the things we felt 480 00:20:23,828 --> 00:20:25,868 Speaker 15: our players did best. We talked about things that we 481 00:20:25,868 --> 00:20:28,988 Speaker 15: didn't feel they did very well, and we eliminated those things. 482 00:20:29,068 --> 00:20:33,148 Speaker 15: And we also compacted the playbook. You know, we cut 483 00:20:33,148 --> 00:20:35,348 Speaker 15: out probably two hundred pages and just say these are 484 00:20:35,388 --> 00:20:37,548 Speaker 15: the things we're going to do. And then our approach 485 00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:39,948 Speaker 15: was different because we talked about how we want to 486 00:20:40,068 --> 00:20:41,428 Speaker 15: use players differently. 487 00:20:41,668 --> 00:20:42,708 Speaker 14: So I think when you do. 488 00:20:43,148 --> 00:20:45,988 Speaker 15: Something like that, you know, the focus really is on 489 00:20:46,108 --> 00:20:47,628 Speaker 15: how are we going to handle it, how are we 490 00:20:47,668 --> 00:20:49,508 Speaker 15: going to grow, how are we going to do things 491 00:20:49,548 --> 00:20:50,828 Speaker 15: going forward? 492 00:20:50,908 --> 00:20:51,388 Speaker 14: Differently? 493 00:20:51,868 --> 00:20:55,228 Speaker 15: We can't keep doing the same thing because Albert Einstein said, 494 00:20:55,228 --> 00:20:57,388 Speaker 15: that's insanity if you're expecting something different to happen. 495 00:20:57,428 --> 00:21:00,268 Speaker 12: Yeah, Coach Katy, there's something that I want to bring 496 00:21:00,428 --> 00:21:02,068 Speaker 12: up that I'm not sure that most people are really 497 00:21:02,108 --> 00:21:04,388 Speaker 12: aware of right inside the locker room, and you always 498 00:21:04,428 --> 00:21:07,028 Speaker 12: you can speak to this, the challenge of having a 499 00:21:07,108 --> 00:21:12,588 Speaker 12: rookie quarterback with veteran weapons and the pressure not only 500 00:21:12,788 --> 00:21:15,988 Speaker 12: on Caleb Williams to come in as a number one 501 00:21:15,988 --> 00:21:18,988 Speaker 12: overall pick right that pressure alone, but now stepping into 502 00:21:19,068 --> 00:21:23,308 Speaker 12: that huddle and having failed no success at all offensively 503 00:21:23,788 --> 00:21:26,548 Speaker 12: with veterans looking back at you, it's trying to figure 504 00:21:26,548 --> 00:21:29,028 Speaker 12: out exactly why is it that you're struggling. Did they 505 00:21:29,068 --> 00:21:31,188 Speaker 12: have to make this move not only for the lack 506 00:21:31,228 --> 00:21:33,508 Speaker 12: of production but also to try to retain this locker room? 507 00:21:33,748 --> 00:21:35,908 Speaker 15: Yes, I think they did, because again, if you're not 508 00:21:35,948 --> 00:21:38,508 Speaker 15: showing that what you're trying to do is win and 509 00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:41,108 Speaker 15: we'll do whatever it takes to win, you're going to 510 00:21:41,188 --> 00:21:43,148 Speaker 15: lose people. And this is something you have to be 511 00:21:43,148 --> 00:21:45,428 Speaker 15: concerned about. And you know you brought some of it. 512 00:21:45,588 --> 00:21:48,708 Speaker 15: Very interesting is you take all these tools, all these weapons, 513 00:21:48,868 --> 00:21:50,508 Speaker 15: and you surround the young guy around. 514 00:21:50,788 --> 00:21:51,828 Speaker 14: Did they give them too many. 515 00:21:52,268 --> 00:21:54,228 Speaker 15: I mean, look at the quality of players that they've 516 00:21:54,228 --> 00:21:57,388 Speaker 15: brought in, and can you keep everybody happy? Can you 517 00:21:57,428 --> 00:22:01,188 Speaker 15: spread the ball around enough, you know, to keep those 518 00:22:01,228 --> 00:22:03,668 Speaker 15: guys happy. So again, you could be putting pressure on 519 00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:06,508 Speaker 15: your quarterback with realizing that you've got too many weapons. 520 00:22:06,788 --> 00:22:08,388 Speaker 14: And one thing you got also understands they. 521 00:22:08,348 --> 00:22:10,428 Speaker 15: Got to protect him better though, because if you bring 522 00:22:10,468 --> 00:22:12,868 Speaker 15: in a quarterback and he's your franchise guy, you've got. 523 00:22:12,708 --> 00:22:14,788 Speaker 14: To be able to protect him. 524 00:22:14,468 --> 00:22:16,468 Speaker 15: And then you've got to have playmakers around him to 525 00:22:16,508 --> 00:22:17,508 Speaker 15: get the ball to him. 526 00:22:17,708 --> 00:22:19,588 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they can't protect him right now, coach, I 527 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:22,068 Speaker 6: mean thirty eight sacks, like second most in the league 528 00:22:22,148 --> 00:22:23,748 Speaker 6: right now. Like the dude just doesn't seem like he 529 00:22:23,748 --> 00:22:26,668 Speaker 6: has an opportunity. But like I guess, you know, at 530 00:22:26,668 --> 00:22:29,268 Speaker 6: the risk of sounding like, you know, the cynical dude, 531 00:22:29,308 --> 00:22:32,428 Speaker 6: like it just feels like, you know, sometimes coaches get 532 00:22:32,468 --> 00:22:35,428 Speaker 6: fired and they seem like a scapegoat and it doesn't 533 00:22:35,428 --> 00:22:37,668 Speaker 6: necessarily change it. I've been a part of these changes 534 00:22:37,668 --> 00:22:41,668 Speaker 6: whereas it's like you just elevated the homie and say, yo, linebacker, coach, 535 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:44,148 Speaker 6: you're this, or offensive coordin and you just bring them 536 00:22:44,148 --> 00:22:46,228 Speaker 6: in and it doesn't change, and it's just like, Okay, 537 00:22:46,268 --> 00:22:48,948 Speaker 6: maybe for the next couple of weeks, everybody's riding on 538 00:22:48,988 --> 00:22:51,988 Speaker 6: the high that there's a change, but ultimately you're running 539 00:22:52,028 --> 00:22:53,908 Speaker 6: the same offense, you have the same type of thing, 540 00:22:54,228 --> 00:22:56,028 Speaker 6: and you're not doing the same type of teaching. Where 541 00:22:56,068 --> 00:22:58,268 Speaker 6: does the teaching come in to take because there's a 542 00:22:58,348 --> 00:23:00,948 Speaker 6: lot of teaching and correction that needs to happen if 543 00:23:00,988 --> 00:23:04,188 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is going to live up to the hype 544 00:23:04,228 --> 00:23:06,668 Speaker 6: that came in, you know from the very beginning. 545 00:23:06,748 --> 00:23:08,828 Speaker 15: Well again, is one of the things I talked about 546 00:23:08,828 --> 00:23:11,628 Speaker 15: earlier was are they doing too much? Are they asking 547 00:23:11,708 --> 00:23:14,268 Speaker 15: him to do too much? It's interesting because you look 548 00:23:14,308 --> 00:23:17,188 Speaker 15: at you look at what's happening and with the commanders 549 00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:19,708 Speaker 15: and how they've handled that, and that's been spectacular early 550 00:23:19,748 --> 00:23:22,268 Speaker 15: has and it's very simple though when you look at 551 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,908 Speaker 15: it and break it down on tape. So are they 552 00:23:24,948 --> 00:23:27,988 Speaker 15: doing the same in Chicago? Is it too complicated? Is 553 00:23:28,068 --> 00:23:30,068 Speaker 15: eliminating some of the things and saying listen, you know, 554 00:23:30,148 --> 00:23:33,228 Speaker 15: let's tighten up the call sheet and let's give him 555 00:23:33,228 --> 00:23:35,268 Speaker 15: a limited number of things and have ask him to 556 00:23:35,308 --> 00:23:36,908 Speaker 15: do these things very very well. 557 00:23:37,468 --> 00:23:39,268 Speaker 6: Okay, well, let me ask this then, because when I'm 558 00:23:39,268 --> 00:23:41,788 Speaker 6: watching Caleb, the one thing I always noticed, it just 559 00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:44,268 Speaker 6: feels like he's always trying to make things happen. When 560 00:23:44,388 --> 00:23:47,068 Speaker 6: you got dogs around you, you've got a bunch of 561 00:23:47,148 --> 00:23:50,108 Speaker 6: star players around you, and yet he's he's dancing and 562 00:23:50,148 --> 00:23:52,228 Speaker 6: wiggling around and just trying to make things happen. Like, 563 00:23:52,268 --> 00:23:54,468 Speaker 6: where does that come from with the quarterback? Like when 564 00:23:54,468 --> 00:23:55,668 Speaker 6: he's in that type of situation. 565 00:23:55,748 --> 00:23:57,428 Speaker 15: Well, one of the things that that that you know, 566 00:23:57,468 --> 00:24:00,268 Speaker 15: we knowed talking about young quarterbacks because again believing when 567 00:24:00,268 --> 00:24:02,268 Speaker 15: we were in Washington, we were looking for him. You 568 00:24:02,348 --> 00:24:03,908 Speaker 15: watch a lot of these guys and one of the 569 00:24:03,948 --> 00:24:05,908 Speaker 15: things that you sit there and you say, man, you 570 00:24:05,908 --> 00:24:09,668 Speaker 15: know he extends plays, he starts moving around too soon. 571 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:10,868 Speaker 14: He's not letting him develop. 572 00:24:10,908 --> 00:24:13,388 Speaker 15: If he hold himself in the pocket, just one more tick, 573 00:24:13,708 --> 00:24:15,988 Speaker 15: that guy's going to come open. So again, part of 574 00:24:16,028 --> 00:24:18,028 Speaker 15: it is, as you said, is the development, the growth, 575 00:24:18,028 --> 00:24:21,268 Speaker 15: the learning, the understanding, so that the offense as it 576 00:24:21,348 --> 00:24:24,908 Speaker 15: goes and it's out they're working. Are these progressions being 577 00:24:24,948 --> 00:24:29,148 Speaker 15: able to be completed? Are the routes being run completely? 578 00:24:29,748 --> 00:24:32,748 Speaker 15: So now as I'm sitting there and reading through my progressions, 579 00:24:32,748 --> 00:24:33,828 Speaker 15: I'm looking at the defense. 580 00:24:33,908 --> 00:24:36,028 Speaker 14: I can say, hey, I can wait for the spin Dick. 581 00:24:36,068 --> 00:24:36,628 Speaker 14: I can wait for the. 582 00:24:36,628 --> 00:24:38,388 Speaker 15: Guy to curl up in front of the linebacker so 583 00:24:38,468 --> 00:24:40,388 Speaker 15: he drives down and then all of a sudden you've 584 00:24:40,388 --> 00:24:42,348 Speaker 15: got to dig the in route coming. 585 00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:42,628 Speaker 14: In behind it. 586 00:24:42,668 --> 00:24:45,268 Speaker 15: So these are all these kinds of things that you've 587 00:24:45,308 --> 00:24:47,068 Speaker 15: got to ask and you've got to go through. Now 588 00:24:47,108 --> 00:24:49,428 Speaker 15: as the new coordinator, you've got to be able to 589 00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:52,308 Speaker 15: have broken down this tape, understand what your quarterback needs, 590 00:24:52,468 --> 00:24:54,108 Speaker 15: and then go out and get it corrected. 591 00:24:54,788 --> 00:24:57,068 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you're all over this move. To me, 592 00:24:57,508 --> 00:25:00,988 Speaker 7: the Bear season is deeply secondary to some other things. 593 00:25:01,028 --> 00:25:02,828 Speaker 7: Maybe they finished seven to ten eight, now, who the 594 00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:03,508 Speaker 7: hell knows. 595 00:25:03,908 --> 00:25:04,628 Speaker 4: The offense is. 596 00:25:04,628 --> 00:25:07,308 Speaker 7: Broken, the team has broken. This is all about making 597 00:25:07,308 --> 00:25:10,508 Speaker 7: sure the quarterback is not broken. Caleb needs to be 598 00:25:10,548 --> 00:25:13,468 Speaker 7: protected and insulated and never mind passed block And of course, 599 00:25:13,548 --> 00:25:16,188 Speaker 7: yes I'm talking about here. And if you saw this week, 600 00:25:16,228 --> 00:25:19,268 Speaker 7: Bears fans, especially Daniel Jeremiah, who does this thing for 601 00:25:19,308 --> 00:25:22,188 Speaker 7: a living, was watching all the Caleb tape and he's like. 602 00:25:22,628 --> 00:25:25,148 Speaker 4: He just looks super rushed, super. 603 00:25:24,908 --> 00:25:28,388 Speaker 7: Uncomfortable, as if it's being pounded into his head. Don't 604 00:25:28,388 --> 00:25:31,548 Speaker 7: mess up Okay, that is why you make a coaching change. 605 00:25:31,588 --> 00:25:33,548 Speaker 7: We need a fresh voice, we need a fresh angle. 606 00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:36,588 Speaker 7: And if the good news is for Thomas Brown, the 607 00:25:36,628 --> 00:25:40,068 Speaker 7: bar is so low, so low. No one is expecting 608 00:25:40,108 --> 00:25:42,108 Speaker 7: you to beat the Packers this week. It would be 609 00:25:42,188 --> 00:25:44,668 Speaker 7: nice if you could just get sacked three or four times, 610 00:25:44,708 --> 00:25:46,188 Speaker 7: and that's a massive improvement. 611 00:25:46,428 --> 00:25:49,228 Speaker 4: It would be nice if you could score a touchdown. 612 00:25:49,508 --> 00:25:53,348 Speaker 7: They have over twenty plus drives without a touchdown. It 613 00:25:53,388 --> 00:25:57,508 Speaker 7: goes way back to that Washington game. So simple, baby steps. 614 00:25:57,508 --> 00:25:59,108 Speaker 7: I think Bears fans have to take a step back 615 00:25:59,148 --> 00:26:01,748 Speaker 7: from thinking we're gonna make the playoffs, maybe we can 616 00:26:01,788 --> 00:26:05,068 Speaker 7: make a run at the North to saying, let's just 617 00:26:05,148 --> 00:26:08,668 Speaker 7: get this guy standing upright running the offense. Thomas Brown's 618 00:26:08,708 --> 00:26:11,748 Speaker 7: background is. I mean, it's interesting. He's a really good 619 00:26:11,748 --> 00:26:14,348 Speaker 7: college player. He was with McVeigh for a while. I 620 00:26:14,348 --> 00:26:16,428 Speaker 7: don't think it's some sort of Gangbusters thing where now 621 00:26:16,468 --> 00:26:18,228 Speaker 7: they're going to score thirty points a game. I'm not 622 00:26:18,308 --> 00:26:21,108 Speaker 7: blown away by the higher they need somebody, but if 623 00:26:21,148 --> 00:26:23,348 Speaker 7: they can just keep him upright and keep him in 624 00:26:23,428 --> 00:26:26,388 Speaker 7: a sane place for at least one game, at least 625 00:26:26,388 --> 00:26:28,668 Speaker 7: this improvement, I find myself angry about it this time. 626 00:26:28,708 --> 00:26:31,588 Speaker 5: I go back to the draft and they drafted a 627 00:26:31,748 --> 00:26:34,628 Speaker 5: quarterback with the first overall pick and a wide receiver 628 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,628 Speaker 5: with the ninth overall pick, and they had DJ Moore 629 00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:37,388 Speaker 5: and Keenan Allen. 630 00:26:37,468 --> 00:26:38,428 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about. 631 00:26:38,548 --> 00:26:40,668 Speaker 5: You know, the offensive line isn't holding out. There is 632 00:26:40,788 --> 00:26:43,228 Speaker 5: no excuse for this team not to be an offensive Juggernut. 633 00:26:43,428 --> 00:26:45,708 Speaker 5: I know he's a young quarterback. I know it has 634 00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:47,548 Speaker 5: to be better than what it's been. And I think 635 00:26:47,588 --> 00:26:49,388 Speaker 5: even Shane would say this is as bad as it 636 00:26:49,428 --> 00:26:52,068 Speaker 5: could have been, even though he had high expectations coming 637 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:52,588 Speaker 5: into this thing. 638 00:26:53,108 --> 00:26:55,468 Speaker 15: Well, I think everybody had high expectations, to be honest 639 00:26:55,508 --> 00:26:57,228 Speaker 15: about it. But the truth of the matter is you 640 00:26:57,348 --> 00:26:59,748 Speaker 15: also have to look at what are the play calls. 641 00:27:00,388 --> 00:27:02,148 Speaker 15: Is everything designed for him to get the ball out 642 00:27:02,148 --> 00:27:04,868 Speaker 15: of his hands quickly? Are these routes being run in 643 00:27:04,948 --> 00:27:07,588 Speaker 15: situations where now he can make a quick read and 644 00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:10,308 Speaker 15: deliver the ball. You know, you go back and you 645 00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:12,308 Speaker 15: chart this, and that's what I was doing for quite 646 00:27:12,348 --> 00:27:16,068 Speaker 15: some time this season. I've charted the time to catch 647 00:27:16,108 --> 00:27:20,188 Speaker 15: to release, and Jaden Daniels has the best. He gets 648 00:27:20,228 --> 00:27:22,348 Speaker 15: the ball and he's getting the ball out. 649 00:27:22,148 --> 00:27:22,668 Speaker 14: Of his hands. 650 00:27:22,668 --> 00:27:26,148 Speaker 15: Why Because Cliff Kingsbury's calling the plays that way. So 651 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:27,908 Speaker 15: now you've got to take a look at what are 652 00:27:27,908 --> 00:27:30,348 Speaker 15: they doing. Are they trying to get the ball downfield 653 00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:33,268 Speaker 15: in a hurry or are they trying to systematically grind 654 00:27:33,308 --> 00:27:36,708 Speaker 15: it out quick throws let your receivers make plays. When 655 00:27:36,748 --> 00:27:38,948 Speaker 15: you have these type of guys we've talked about, you 656 00:27:39,028 --> 00:27:42,828 Speaker 15: talk about DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and rom and 657 00:27:42,868 --> 00:27:44,948 Speaker 15: Doon Day. These are guys that you get the ball 658 00:27:45,028 --> 00:27:47,708 Speaker 15: to them in space and allow them to work. I mean, 659 00:27:47,748 --> 00:27:49,668 Speaker 15: are these the type of things that you're doing with 660 00:27:49,788 --> 00:27:52,068 Speaker 15: your offense or are you asking the quarterback to go 661 00:27:52,148 --> 00:27:54,988 Speaker 15: through a series of progressions and get the ball downfield 662 00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:57,668 Speaker 15: and at the same time you've got this pass rush 663 00:27:57,708 --> 00:28:00,628 Speaker 15: that's getting into your lap. So again, are we doing 664 00:28:00,668 --> 00:28:02,268 Speaker 15: what we need to do to give our guy a 665 00:28:02,388 --> 00:28:03,348 Speaker 15: chance to be successful? 666 00:28:03,388 --> 00:28:04,348 Speaker 3: All right, Bears make move. 667 00:28:04,508 --> 00:28:07,308 Speaker 2: They fire their play caller offerens coordinator Shane Waldrin today. 668 00:28:07,348 --> 00:28:09,228 Speaker 2: They are moving on to have Thomas Brown do so 669 00:28:09,348 --> 00:28:11,708 Speaker 2: the way he did last year with the Carolina Panthers. 670 00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:14,708 Speaker 2: Just hoping for a spark to get Caleb Williams right 671 00:28:14,788 --> 00:28:16,308 Speaker 2: and the rest of this Bears offense. 672 00:28:16,508 --> 00:28:17,508 Speaker 3: I know one thing's for sure. 673 00:28:17,588 --> 00:28:20,148 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is happy that our next guest on GMFB 674 00:28:20,348 --> 00:28:22,748 Speaker 2: is still not playing for the Packers, as he was 675 00:28:22,828 --> 00:28:25,468 Speaker 2: one of the most feared pass rushers of his generation, 676 00:28:25,588 --> 00:28:26,348 Speaker 2: the six time. 677 00:28:26,188 --> 00:28:29,428 Speaker 3: Pro Bowler, a Super Bowl champion, the hair of a god. 678 00:28:29,748 --> 00:28:32,068 Speaker 2: Clay Matthews coming on the show in a couple of minutes. 679 00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:35,388 Speaker 3: We're fired up. 680 00:28:35,308 --> 00:28:38,428 Speaker 2: About this next guest on GMFB. It is Clay Matthews, 681 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,308 Speaker 2: the Packers and Rams linebacker. 682 00:28:40,428 --> 00:28:41,948 Speaker 3: Now he's in partnership with. 683 00:28:41,988 --> 00:28:44,988 Speaker 2: The NFL and Crown Royal to drive generosity. 684 00:28:45,108 --> 00:28:46,068 Speaker 3: Clay, what's happening? 685 00:28:47,108 --> 00:28:47,708 Speaker 4: Not a whole lot. 686 00:28:47,708 --> 00:28:49,188 Speaker 11: I appreciate you streaming me on this morning. 687 00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,028 Speaker 3: Always great to see you. 688 00:28:51,148 --> 00:28:53,228 Speaker 2: Always a ponytail of envy or a bond if you 689 00:28:53,308 --> 00:28:54,628 Speaker 2: will listen. 690 00:28:54,668 --> 00:28:56,708 Speaker 3: There it is exactly, we know it. We love it. 691 00:28:58,028 --> 00:28:59,308 Speaker 3: The Bears they made. 692 00:28:59,068 --> 00:29:01,428 Speaker 2: Moves this morning, and oftentimes it's because they're trying to 693 00:29:01,468 --> 00:29:03,588 Speaker 2: get right within this division that they play in, and 694 00:29:03,588 --> 00:29:06,588 Speaker 2: the Packers are constantly on top, constantly a juggernaut that 695 00:29:06,628 --> 00:29:09,068 Speaker 2: the Bears have to reckon with. Let's talk about your Packers. 696 00:29:09,068 --> 00:29:10,748 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about them? Right now, just over 697 00:29:10,828 --> 00:29:12,188 Speaker 2: halfway through the season. 698 00:29:13,068 --> 00:29:14,668 Speaker 11: I'm feeling good. I think they look good. 699 00:29:14,788 --> 00:29:17,228 Speaker 16: Jordan Love continues to take that next step that we 700 00:29:17,228 --> 00:29:18,988 Speaker 16: were hoping we would see. Obviously, he's had a few 701 00:29:18,988 --> 00:29:22,468 Speaker 16: injuries that have limited them. I mean, the Lions are 702 00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:25,788 Speaker 16: rolling so obviously they dropped that last game and now 703 00:29:25,788 --> 00:29:27,748 Speaker 16: they're coming off a bye, so we'll see if they 704 00:29:27,748 --> 00:29:29,948 Speaker 16: can finish the season strong. But they've been fun to 705 00:29:29,988 --> 00:29:32,948 Speaker 16: watch this year. I'm hoping they can just keep the 706 00:29:33,028 --> 00:29:35,188 Speaker 16: momentum in that tough NFC North Division. 707 00:29:36,668 --> 00:29:38,868 Speaker 5: You know, we watch a lot of media, We consume 708 00:29:38,908 --> 00:29:41,468 Speaker 5: a lot of media. And as I covered you guys 709 00:29:41,508 --> 00:29:43,548 Speaker 5: for all those years when you were at the Packers 710 00:29:43,588 --> 00:29:47,108 Speaker 5: with Farvan Rogers, I didn't see AJ Hawk being a 711 00:29:47,228 --> 00:29:50,588 Speaker 5: media sensation he is now on that McAfee show. 712 00:29:50,868 --> 00:29:52,068 Speaker 4: Did you envision this. 713 00:29:51,988 --> 00:29:53,868 Speaker 5: When he was lining up at linebacker with you, that 714 00:29:53,948 --> 00:29:56,268 Speaker 5: Aj would be like the face of sports media. 715 00:29:57,468 --> 00:30:00,188 Speaker 16: He didn't like the media, he didn't like being, you know, 716 00:30:00,268 --> 00:30:04,148 Speaker 16: on camera. So now it's pretty ironic where I me, 717 00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:06,708 Speaker 16: you just couldn't turn on the TV without seeing a 718 00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:10,588 Speaker 16: million commercials and whatnot of me. I'm you know, hiding 719 00:30:10,628 --> 00:30:12,948 Speaker 16: away and he's the one front and center, but good 720 00:30:12,948 --> 00:30:15,828 Speaker 16: for him, him and McAfee and they're all doing they're 721 00:30:15,868 --> 00:30:18,308 Speaker 16: all doing fantastic and they're fun to watch. 722 00:30:19,828 --> 00:30:22,628 Speaker 7: They are fun to watch. You know, you were amazing 723 00:30:22,668 --> 00:30:24,748 Speaker 7: to watch too. I really mean that it was awesome, 724 00:30:24,868 --> 00:30:26,348 Speaker 7: awesome to cover you back. 725 00:30:26,148 --> 00:30:26,588 Speaker 14: In the day. 726 00:30:27,188 --> 00:30:30,668 Speaker 7: You are standing up there on that pedestal with Aaron 727 00:30:30,668 --> 00:30:32,748 Speaker 7: when the Super Bowl and you got the heavyweight championship 728 00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:35,948 Speaker 7: belt and the T shirts and stuff. Talking about Aaron 729 00:30:36,148 --> 00:30:39,268 Speaker 7: just after, You've felt after you retired, kind of a 730 00:30:39,308 --> 00:30:41,708 Speaker 7: different era for him with the media. You know, he 731 00:30:41,828 --> 00:30:45,228 Speaker 7: got into his eccentricities and he's doing the Darkness Retreat 732 00:30:45,268 --> 00:30:48,668 Speaker 7: and the ayahuasca and just really fearless opinions some that 733 00:30:48,748 --> 00:30:50,628 Speaker 7: really pissed a lot of people off. Just a different 734 00:30:50,668 --> 00:30:52,428 Speaker 7: than how he was as a young player. What have 735 00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:54,948 Speaker 7: been your perceptions of how Aaron's been in the media 736 00:30:55,108 --> 00:30:56,468 Speaker 7: since you retired. 737 00:30:58,188 --> 00:30:59,468 Speaker 11: I think he's being authentic. 738 00:30:59,668 --> 00:31:01,228 Speaker 16: You know, a lot of times when you get in 739 00:31:01,308 --> 00:31:05,228 Speaker 16: front of the camera, it's difficult to share your true opinions, 740 00:31:05,268 --> 00:31:09,988 Speaker 16: whether you know you just you're you're ostracized. So I 741 00:31:10,028 --> 00:31:14,068 Speaker 16: think he feels a little liberating and freeing to say 742 00:31:14,108 --> 00:31:15,788 Speaker 16: what he wants to even if that goes against the 743 00:31:15,788 --> 00:31:17,868 Speaker 16: grain or goes against the norm, and I think he 744 00:31:17,948 --> 00:31:20,068 Speaker 16: understands at this point that it's not always going to 745 00:31:20,108 --> 00:31:21,508 Speaker 16: be received like a. 746 00:31:21,468 --> 00:31:23,828 Speaker 11: Lot of the raw Rock quarterbacks. So I mean, I 747 00:31:23,828 --> 00:31:24,908 Speaker 11: don't have a problem with it. 748 00:31:24,948 --> 00:31:26,228 Speaker 16: I think at the end of the day, it comes 749 00:31:26,268 --> 00:31:27,988 Speaker 16: down to the product you put on the field, and 750 00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:30,628 Speaker 16: Aaron will go down as one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. 751 00:31:30,828 --> 00:31:34,068 Speaker 16: And I was fortunate to play with him obviously, one 752 00:31:34,108 --> 00:31:36,348 Speaker 16: of the main reasons we had so much success for 753 00:31:36,388 --> 00:31:37,588 Speaker 16: ten years out there. 754 00:31:37,628 --> 00:31:40,948 Speaker 11: But I mean, Aaron's Aaron. 755 00:31:41,388 --> 00:31:42,828 Speaker 16: I love him, I love the time we got to 756 00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:46,628 Speaker 16: spend together, and I still enjoy the conversations we have now. 757 00:31:46,708 --> 00:31:48,428 Speaker 12: Clay, you and I are both one of the same 758 00:31:48,468 --> 00:31:50,308 Speaker 12: as we both are part of the long Hair Don't 759 00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:52,228 Speaker 12: Care crew. You see, I got minds down, you got 760 00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:54,268 Speaker 12: your pool back. You were at the top of the 761 00:31:54,348 --> 00:31:56,828 Speaker 12: league with in terms of NFL history, best hair competition. 762 00:31:57,108 --> 00:31:59,548 Speaker 12: But for the linebackers that are playing right now, if 763 00:31:59,548 --> 00:32:01,788 Speaker 12: you had to choose between these two, you got the 764 00:32:01,868 --> 00:32:04,708 Speaker 12: Vikings Andrew Van Ginkel, or you have the Lions Alex 765 00:32:04,828 --> 00:32:05,348 Speaker 12: ends alone. 766 00:32:05,508 --> 00:32:06,028 Speaker 14: Which one of. 767 00:32:06,028 --> 00:32:08,628 Speaker 12: Those two have the best hairy. 768 00:32:08,788 --> 00:32:12,148 Speaker 16: With the way Van Ginko has been playing, he's gotta 769 00:32:12,188 --> 00:32:14,668 Speaker 16: have the best hair right now. But I like to 770 00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:17,988 Speaker 16: think I inspired this right here. You know, obviously Joy 771 00:32:18,148 --> 00:32:20,348 Speaker 16: was you know, he was the first, but you know, 772 00:32:20,468 --> 00:32:22,628 Speaker 16: rocking the blonde locks. I don't know if these guys 773 00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:26,908 Speaker 16: really Southern California, Malibu's most wanted. 774 00:32:26,948 --> 00:32:33,828 Speaker 17: Like I was, oh, man, that looks good man. You know, 775 00:32:34,108 --> 00:32:36,308 Speaker 17: like I wish I had hair like that. I really do, 776 00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:38,708 Speaker 17: But there's nothing for me. It's not in my future. 777 00:32:38,908 --> 00:32:40,308 Speaker 17: But you know, you come from. 778 00:32:40,148 --> 00:32:44,628 Speaker 6: One of the most successful NFL families in history. Your grandfather, 779 00:32:44,748 --> 00:32:47,908 Speaker 6: your dad, your uncle, your brother, your cousins, all of 780 00:32:47,948 --> 00:32:50,828 Speaker 6: them aunties and everybody. They all played in the league. Man, 781 00:32:51,188 --> 00:32:53,228 Speaker 6: have some fun with this. Why do you think the 782 00:32:53,348 --> 00:32:58,108 Speaker 6: Matthew family is superior in the NFL over the Mannings 783 00:32:58,188 --> 00:32:59,988 Speaker 6: and the Lungs or Watts. 784 00:33:00,428 --> 00:33:02,788 Speaker 16: Well, I'm not gonna say, you know, we're superior to them, 785 00:33:02,788 --> 00:33:05,108 Speaker 16: because they're all amazing families. 786 00:33:05,148 --> 00:33:06,268 Speaker 11: The Wats are fun to watch. 787 00:33:06,348 --> 00:33:09,908 Speaker 16: The Lungs haven't played against them and watched them as well. 788 00:33:09,908 --> 00:33:12,468 Speaker 16: But I think it's a multitude of reasons. I think, 789 00:33:12,548 --> 00:33:16,348 Speaker 16: first and foremost, God blessed us with the ability to 790 00:33:16,388 --> 00:33:19,428 Speaker 16: take punishment and dish it out and continue to sustain that. 791 00:33:20,348 --> 00:33:22,948 Speaker 16: On top of that, I think it's a mentality just 792 00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:26,628 Speaker 16: kind of born into this family and understanding what's expected, 793 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:29,588 Speaker 16: what came before us, how to behave. 794 00:33:30,988 --> 00:33:33,628 Speaker 11: That's why you don't really see too many distractions from us. 795 00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:36,788 Speaker 16: You look at Jake still just doing his thing down 796 00:33:36,788 --> 00:33:40,268 Speaker 16: there in Atlanta, the last of this generation of Matthews 797 00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:43,908 Speaker 16: in the NFL. But you know, we've just we've been fortunate, 798 00:33:43,948 --> 00:33:46,668 Speaker 16: We've gotten after it, and I mean we love the 799 00:33:46,668 --> 00:33:49,108 Speaker 16: pressure of the expectations. 800 00:33:48,228 --> 00:33:51,908 Speaker 2: And the spotlight well, and the expectation is oftentimes fulfilled 801 00:33:51,948 --> 00:33:53,948 Speaker 2: by the Matthews. And when you have to celebrate, I'm 802 00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:56,348 Speaker 2: sure you reach with a purple bag. You are partnering 803 00:33:56,348 --> 00:34:00,228 Speaker 2: with Crown Oil Whiskey for their Purple Bag project. I 804 00:34:00,268 --> 00:34:02,828 Speaker 2: know what that fancy means. I see that purple bag. 805 00:34:02,868 --> 00:34:04,548 Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. Tell us more about this 806 00:34:04,548 --> 00:34:05,468 Speaker 2: partnership though. 807 00:34:05,948 --> 00:34:06,908 Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely so. 808 00:34:07,108 --> 00:34:09,908 Speaker 16: Crown Royal is the official whiskey sponsor of the NFL. 809 00:34:10,068 --> 00:34:13,548 Speaker 16: I'm excited to team up on their NFL Legend roster 810 00:34:13,668 --> 00:34:16,428 Speaker 16: this year and the Royal rig as you see right there, 811 00:34:16,468 --> 00:34:19,468 Speaker 16: it's a larger than life. Eighteen wheelers got two giant 812 00:34:19,908 --> 00:34:22,788 Speaker 16: white oak barrels on the back and the iconic Crown 813 00:34:22,868 --> 00:34:26,988 Speaker 16: Royal purple. We'll be stopping by ten different NFL cities tailgating, 814 00:34:27,228 --> 00:34:29,588 Speaker 16: and I'm going to be at lambeau Field on Thanksgiving, 815 00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:29,948 Speaker 16: so I. 816 00:34:29,908 --> 00:34:31,148 Speaker 11: Encourage you to stop by. 817 00:34:31,708 --> 00:34:34,708 Speaker 16: We'll have some drinks, give away, some merge, you can 818 00:34:34,788 --> 00:34:36,868 Speaker 16: chat with me. But yeah, even bigger than that, which 819 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,988 Speaker 16: I think is cooler, is how Crown is supporting the 820 00:34:39,068 --> 00:34:43,468 Speaker 16: active and deployed military with their Purple Bag project by 821 00:34:43,468 --> 00:34:47,868 Speaker 16: sending off morale boosting items to packages from home. On 822 00:34:47,908 --> 00:34:50,228 Speaker 16: top of that, I'm donating one of my game used jerseys, 823 00:34:50,228 --> 00:34:52,948 Speaker 16: so the proceeds from that will also go to packages 824 00:34:52,988 --> 00:34:53,388 Speaker 16: from home. 825 00:34:53,428 --> 00:34:54,708 Speaker 11: So really just an exciting time. 826 00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:57,628 Speaker 16: You can find out more about that on the Network 827 00:34:57,628 --> 00:35:01,028 Speaker 16: app as well as Crown Royals Instagram. So just an 828 00:35:01,068 --> 00:35:05,348 Speaker 16: awesome coming together and doing some So I'm excited to 829 00:35:05,348 --> 00:35:07,588 Speaker 16: get back to Green Bay watch that game on Thanksgiving 830 00:35:07,668 --> 00:35:09,428 Speaker 16: and and have some fun doing it. 831 00:35:09,468 --> 00:35:11,348 Speaker 2: Well, those are the people that deserve it, Clay, So 832 00:35:11,388 --> 00:35:13,148 Speaker 2: that's an awesome partnership that you're doing. 833 00:35:13,508 --> 00:35:14,748 Speaker 3: That rig is. 834 00:35:14,828 --> 00:35:17,868 Speaker 2: Ridiculous and I certainly expect you to pull up to 835 00:35:18,108 --> 00:35:21,508 Speaker 2: Lambeau driving that thing because that is the best way to. 836 00:35:21,468 --> 00:35:21,948 Speaker 3: Send it home. 837 00:35:21,988 --> 00:35:24,708 Speaker 7: It's an awesome right, it is, it is, it is. 838 00:35:24,748 --> 00:35:25,468 Speaker 11: I appreciate it. 839 00:35:25,508 --> 00:35:25,788 Speaker 10: Guys. 840 00:35:25,948 --> 00:35:28,268 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Clay, awesome to see you today. We appreciate you 841 00:35:28,348 --> 00:35:30,028 Speaker 2: joining GMFP, appreciate you stuff. 842 00:35:30,188 --> 00:35:30,428 Speaker 4: Thank you.