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Speaker 1: know you guys got former Giant Matt Lacossa up there

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Speaker 1: that Sony Michelle being you know, the year that he

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Speaker 1: had last year. Um, now going into his second season

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Speaker 1: with a little bit more experience, Hopefully he can get

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Speaker 1: healthy that the offense for the Patriots might lean on

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Speaker 1: him a little bit more to take a little pressure

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Speaker 1: off of Tom Brady at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe let's segue into the defensive side of the football.

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Speaker 1: You've got a loss of Trey Flowers is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be the biggest thing in my opinion for that defense. Um,

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Speaker 1: where is the pass for us going to come from?

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Speaker 1: And now I know that we guys went out got

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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett talk to me a little bit about that

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Speaker 1: defensive line in particular. Yeah, Tree Flowers was an outstanding player,

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Speaker 1: uh in his in his time as a Patriots And

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Speaker 1: if you if you wanted to take a kid and

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Speaker 1: you know molden to be a Patriot, you you'd have

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Speaker 1: that player model himself after Followers came in as a

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Speaker 1: mid round pick, you know, injured in his first preseason

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Speaker 1: game when he flashed against the Packers, and really it

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Speaker 1: was a red shirt year for him as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: but tremendous work ethic technician who was really uh, someone

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Speaker 1: who played with great you know the coaches like to

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Speaker 1: say pad level uh and and used leverage. Was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a shorter guy for his position, but

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Speaker 1: great arm, arm strength and arm way and someone who

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Speaker 1: really developed from a technical standpoint of the ability to

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Speaker 1: to rush inside to get to the quarterback from the outside.

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Speaker 1: But by no means the kind of a player that

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Speaker 1: you know you look at and fail to He's a

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Speaker 1: von Miller. Uh. This is the Marcus where this is

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Speaker 1: a guy who who's going to be a twenty saki

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Speaker 1: or guy based on his ability to beat the tackle

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Speaker 1: and get to the quarterback. He's a guy that you

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Speaker 1: know did it a lot because of the way they

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Speaker 1: moved him around. And it's not to take anything away

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Speaker 1: from him. Uh. You know, you have to do a

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Speaker 1: lot on the Patriots defense. If you play on the edge,

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Speaker 1: you play inside, and also you have to do both

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Speaker 1: and you have to be able to set the edge

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Speaker 1: defend the run. Uh. They just don't turn guys loose

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Speaker 1: and have them get up feel and lush the paths

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Speaker 1: are um but most of the time. They did it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more last year against the Ramps to

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Speaker 1: get vertical, but typically, you know, as a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a much more multifaceted, faceted

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Speaker 1: role with the Patriots in the Belgic's defense than in

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Speaker 1: other places. So I think that they lose Flower, they

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Speaker 1: lose that sack production, but they can get him in

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Speaker 1: a different plays. Despite how well he played as a

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Speaker 1: pat and what he meant to just a great kid, humble,

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Speaker 1: hard working, kept his mouth shut. It's a great model

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Speaker 1: for the young players there. There's some guys have been

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Speaker 1: in the system for a couple of years, Adam Butler,

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Speaker 1: die church Wise, it was kind of in that same mold.

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Speaker 1: Who now maybe they get more reps and more opportunities.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Michael Benn I think he still has gas

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Speaker 1: in his tank. But there's Dante high Tower and Kyle

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Speaker 1: Van Noy and Jamie Collins as they resigned reacquired of

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Speaker 1: course this offseason, and he looks good. He high Tower

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Speaker 1: has lost a little bit away. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: they can move him around a bit more as well.

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Speaker 1: Uh And you know with bad Noi has become a

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Speaker 1: very good player in their defense and Collins. They have

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Speaker 1: taken an area that was a weakness this time last year,

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Speaker 1: and and that that that that linebacking corps, and they've

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Speaker 1: turned to into the strength and I think the versatility

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Speaker 1: of a couple of those guys. We may see a

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Speaker 1: lot more of high talent around the edge of Van Noy,

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Speaker 1: he kind of split his reps half and half last

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Speaker 1: year and being on the act, being an inside of

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Speaker 1: the linebacker. Uh. And I think that's where they're going

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Speaker 1: to get their sack production and their pressure on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of more minutes with Patriots radio

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Speaker 1: play by play voice of Bob Socie, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: will be calling the Patriots version of the October tenth

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Speaker 1: game between the Patriots and the Giants up in Foxborough. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Quickly from me, Bob, I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: a typical Patriot That is Michigan's Chase Winovich, who comes

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Speaker 1: by way of the third round. We all know he

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Speaker 1: fits exactly what Bill Belichick likes in in that exactly

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Speaker 1: that kind of tweener guy who can practically do anything

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Speaker 1: he wants. And and also I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about the secondary to me getting a little bit long

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Speaker 1: in the tooth. Maybe not long long, but a little

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Speaker 1: bit long. Yeah. Well, I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: things you look at and and and I'll start with

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Speaker 1: the second day, and then when we'll get back to Panovich,

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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, Jason mccordy, Patrick and China and Devin of

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Speaker 1: course have been a long time Patriots, and Patrick Chung

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Speaker 1: and his second federation as a Patriot really has been

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Speaker 1: uh a player that's turned into I think one of

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Speaker 1: the more valuable players UH in the NFL to his

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Speaker 1: team because he's been one of those hybrid safeties who

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Speaker 1: can play linebacker, cover tight ends, defend well against the

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Speaker 1: rout and he was one of the first guys I

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Speaker 1: think in this trend now when we've seen these sub

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Speaker 1: defenses with extra safeties on the feud of extra dbs

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Speaker 1: use use there's their safeties as as linebacker hybrids and

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Speaker 1: try to defend the running backs that are that are

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Speaker 1: flexed in the formation or tight ends and slot receivers.

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Speaker 1: And China has been a terrific player since Patriots re

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Speaker 1: acquired him in two thousand fourteen, and Devon has had

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Speaker 1: a long career. Jason is up there in age. Well.

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Speaker 1: They really really like John Williams out of Aanderville so

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Speaker 1: much so that they moved up to draft him in

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Speaker 1: the second round. And there's a lot like about him

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Speaker 1: his playing. Then you look at Stefan Gilmore and then

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Speaker 1: the cornerback he's become. I think he's one of the

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Speaker 1: top two or three cornerbacks in the league. J C.

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Speaker 1: Jackson as a young man and a guy really is

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Speaker 1: a steel last year college free agent, had some problems

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Speaker 1: very early in his collegiate career that you know, led

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Speaker 1: to some red flags, transferred from Florida to Maryland. Became

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Speaker 1: a very good player for the Patriots by the end

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Speaker 1: of last year. And I think with those guys, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Jones has been a reliable quarterback for them. They resigned

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Speaker 1: him as a restricted free agent. These are guys that

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Speaker 1: I think give them a lot of death and ability

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Speaker 1: at the cornerback spot. H the same key position they

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Speaker 1: picked up over Melon Forman last year. Of course, get

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Speaker 1: out of Connecticut, tremendous athlete, didn't really have much of

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Speaker 1: a role for the Patriots. But we'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: with him this preseason and and and you know, if

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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that Belship acquires some somebody

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Speaker 1: again cost on off their scrap. He's the same way

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Speaker 1: he did with Van noyn Or a guy the Giants

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Speaker 1: had a few years ago. It was an impact player

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots on a Super Bowl Championship run. And

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Speaker 1: now Jonathan Cassius and you know, and and so I

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Speaker 1: think there's death. I think you unch there's age, but

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Speaker 1: I think there's talent, and I think there's young talent

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Speaker 1: at certain positions like cornerback. And I think there's enough

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Speaker 1: depth at the safety position as well. And regarding one

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Speaker 1: of it, Yeah, he's kind of cut from that same

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Speaker 1: cloth as Rob Nakeovich. Not just similar last name, in

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Speaker 1: similar ethnic backgrounds. Uh. You know, Belichick has as as

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Speaker 1: as a Croatian, has an affinity for those Eastern European guys,

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Speaker 1: and it takes Winovich is a is a guy that's

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Speaker 1: a high motor smart to know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: recognize that he's a bit of a free spirit off

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Speaker 1: the field, bite your head off as well. On the field.

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Speaker 1: He is, he's he's he's a Patriot prototype. Well, I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you something, Uh, no matter what it is

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Speaker 1: that that you said about any of these guys, if

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Speaker 1: you add up the equation, that turns into an a

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Speaker 1: f C Division title once again, because that's the way

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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be. Bob from here to eternity. It's

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Speaker 1: it's an a f C East Division title, positive so

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Speaker 1: negatives when you add it up, it still comes out

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Speaker 1: the same. You know, Paul, it's been an amazing one

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots with Belichick and Brady. I mean, any

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Speaker 1: time this is this is tried to say, and any

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Speaker 1: time Belichick and Brady are on the sideline and in

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Speaker 1: the huddle, this team's got a chance. But you have

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Speaker 1: read about the N East struggles. You mentioned Briant Floors.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see how they

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Speaker 1: overcome some of the coaching departs they've They've had so

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Speaker 1: many through the years, but Brian floor has had an

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Speaker 1: impact last year and we saw that aggressiveness manifest itself

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Speaker 1: in a couple of different games. And I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna connected with players. Uh, you got young coaches now

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Speaker 1: in some cases coaching position for the first time. Belitics

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Speaker 1: gonna run the defense, and he's always had a strong hand,

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Speaker 1: as you know, in the defense, but now you know

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Speaker 1: he may be making the calls. We saw to Ron Mayo,

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Speaker 1: who just came back into football after a couple of

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Speaker 1: years away from the field in the business world, and

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Speaker 1: in broadcasting, and he was calling a lot of the

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Speaker 1: defensive plays during the O T A S. But I

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Speaker 1: had to be Belichick this year, who will be running

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Speaker 1: that defense and presumably calling the defense without Mac Patricia

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Speaker 1: and when out Brian Floores. Uh. There, they lost a

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Speaker 1: lot on the offensive side. To a long time about

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Speaker 1: the super coach Chad O'Shane and they lost. Uh there's

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Speaker 1: their quarterback coach, Josh Blair, who did a great job

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Speaker 1: in developing some of the people that that that I

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Speaker 1: talked about like j C. Jackson and Jonathan Jones and

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Ball are all undrafted free agents who became starters

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots defensively at the cornerback position. So it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they overcome those losses because

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have young coaches that are learning on the

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Speaker 1: fly as well. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that right now, because you know what.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of it and you're gonna agree with me.

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Speaker 1: I know this. Nick Saban loses all his coaches every

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Speaker 1: single year, correct, and look what happened. They just continue

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Speaker 1: to win, to win, to win one of the same.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So I just feel like there's that

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Speaker 1: that there's some common link there. And I will tell you,

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Speaker 1: I don't care who you look at, all these guys

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Speaker 1: that leave, they still do well. That's because Belichick is there.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's running the show. You know he's in

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Speaker 1: those meetings. He's putting game plans together. No matter what

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Speaker 1: anybody says, he's doing a lot of it. He's teaching

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Speaker 1: a lot of those young coaches. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: from a player's perspective, there's guys that would would love

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Speaker 1: to come up to New England to play. So there's

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Speaker 1: also a lot of guys that would fear to go

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Speaker 1: play in New England just because of Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 1: the way he does things. So we would have We

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Speaker 1: forgot to mention the kicker could Becauskowski is as automatic

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Speaker 1: as they come, so he knows he's getting his points

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Speaker 1: whenever he gets across the fifty. Anyway, Bob So's he

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Speaker 1: probably Patriots Radio Voice of the Pats. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us today. We'll see you on August

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Speaker 1: twenty nine for the preseason game, and then back on

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Speaker 1: October tent for the regular season game in Foxboro. Bob,

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate you to Thank you Bob. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it to And it's good to know

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Speaker 1: that the feeling is mutual between punters and Bill Belichip,

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Speaker 1: because we hear more about the great punters around the

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Speaker 1: NFL and the stories about guys like Dave Jennings than

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Speaker 1: we do anybody else. Bui, it's beautiful. You tell him

643
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Speaker 1: to keep up the good work for me. Will you

644
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: tell him to keep running out those those punters uh

645
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Speaker 1: stories in there for those press conferences. Everybody loves to

646
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: hear about the punters. Thank you, Bob, Thank you, Bob.

647
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Speaker 1: All the best, just because you don't understand how important

648
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Speaker 1: it is. See, that's the one thing that people just

649
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: do not understand. Relax they I mean, listen, you've got

650
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest, if not the greatest coach in

651
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Speaker 1: the history of football, and he brings up punting all

652
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Speaker 1: the time. Just bella chick started out as a special team.

653
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Speaker 1: Show that he knows what he's talking about. Tell you that, Wow,

654
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Speaker 1: you don't have to sell this to me. I love

655
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Speaker 1: special teams. It's one throw of the game. I understand that.

656
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people that would not want

657
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Two oh one nine three nine

658
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Speaker 1: four five one three your phone calls for the final

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Speaker 1: half hour of the show two oh one nine nine

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Speaker 1: four five one three, or hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter.

661
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Speaker 1: Will be glad to get your comments on the internet

662
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Speaker 1: as well. Tomorrow, by the way, as we continue our

663
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Speaker 1: Giants opponents previews, we will be talking about the Tampa

664
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Another one on the NFC. An NFC team

665
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Speaker 1: on the Giant schedule. I'm gonna have to check my

666
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Speaker 1: schedule because these things are changing all the time. What

667
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Speaker 1: they What were we supposed to do Philly today or something?

668
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Speaker 1: Just no, no, non. Philadelphia is going to be Monday.

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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow and UH and uh. John Schmilk will be

670
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Speaker 1: in on Monday as they preview the Philadelphia Eagles. I'll

671
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Speaker 1: be with Lance tomorrow to preview the Buccanteers. So the

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Speaker 1: Patriots are in the book, aren't you glad? You one

673
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Speaker 1: of your teams, by the way, that you had a

674
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Speaker 1: helmet for I did. It's the only team that ever

675
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Speaker 1: fired me too, got him back, you know? Seven? I

676
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Speaker 1: think so yes. I will two oh one nine three

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Speaker 1: nine four five one three. Our phone number here on

678
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Speaker 1: Big Blue kick off live. As always, we are here

679
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Speaker 1: Monday through Friday during the course of the season. In

680
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: the summertime, we do have a Friday hiatus, so this

681
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Friday we will be off. But beginning next week I

682
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Speaker 1: believe we are back onto our regular Monday through Friday schedule. Yeah,

683
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: because people have to get back in the building and

684
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Speaker 1: get ready for training camp, which, by the way, it

685
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Speaker 1: starts very very soon, folks. Players have come in rookies

686
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Speaker 1: on the twenty second. By the way, I was driving

687
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: into the facility today, I haven't been here over a week,

688
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: and notice that everything is up, the stands, the covered stands,

689
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Speaker 1: everything is ready to Canapeah, just f y I top

690
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: ten Giants players of the one century. Charlie from Maine says,

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Speaker 1: Will beat he needs to be on the list. Of

692
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: course he does. You know he's he's a big Will

693
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Speaker 1: Beatie fan. So we just wanted to let everybody know

694
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Speaker 1: that Charlie's alive and well and still standing up for

695
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Speaker 1: his favorite player. UH Sport fan thirty three responds again

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Speaker 1: and wants to say, I kill heard had a better

697
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: Giant's career than Oldell. Beckham says sorry, but not sorry.

698
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: More longevity played in the Super Bowl, of course, Super

699
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Speaker 1: Bowl thirty five against the Ravens. Was reliable and liked

700
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: his attitude a lot better. Reliable. Oh, Beckham was pretty reliable.

701
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Speaker 1: I mean he scored a lot of touchdown, did a

702
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Speaker 1: lot of good things. I would I would say, I

703
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Speaker 1: would not. I would not dismiss what I kill you

704
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: did for this franchise. I'm not gonna dismiss. And by

705
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Speaker 1: the way, in the NFC Championship Game of two thousand

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Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings, forty one nothing, the Giants beat

707
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Speaker 1: them in the most lopsided historic NFC championship game in history.

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Speaker 1: I kill your had double digits and catches with two

709
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes from Carry Collins. How do I think a

710
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards alone on eight grabs in

711
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: the first half of that game. I mean, well, let's

712
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: just say that he played better than Odell Beckham did

713
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: in any playoff game. That's true. He didn't drop, that's true.

714
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Speaker 1: So we'll put him on the list because of that.

715
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: His postseason record was better than Odell's. That is absolutely true,

716
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: no question about that. And I kill you as far

717
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Pound the pound one of the toughest

718
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Speaker 1: five guys I have ever met, my cool question, and

719
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: probably top five nicest guys you'll ever meet. Um as

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Speaker 1: you know, and teammate of mine and two thousand and three,

721
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Speaker 1: so I got to play with him one year. So Schmick,

722
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: if you're watching the show, don't ever ask me about that.

723
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Speaker 1: When did you play with I kill? You might ask

724
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: me that when I'm sleeping one time, like you might

725
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Speaker 1: catch me. But just just a great guy. And actually

726
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I know he's coaching in the NFL now. He has

727
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: been with a number of teams, including the Bills, the Washington's,

728
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Speaker 1: the Redskins. I'm not sure where he is at this moment,

729
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this. I see Ike every

730
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: year either when they are his his team is playing

731
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Speaker 1: the Giants or at the Combine. I see him every

732
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: year at the Combine as well. He is still a

733
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Speaker 1: blue blooded Giant through. Yeah, listen, there's something about this

734
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Speaker 1: building and this organization, folks. I can tell you, even

735
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: though when you move on professionally to it, maybe another team,

736
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: but this team, it gets in your blood and that

737
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: and I is a true definition of that. And he

738
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Speaker 1: really does love the Giants absolutely. Jeff, Let's go to

739
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: the calls. Sure, let's go for Peter from the Florida

740
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Speaker 1: Keys first on Big Blue Kickoff Live. Hello, Peter, where

741
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Speaker 1: are you at the Keys? Underwater? It sounds like, Peter,

742
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: we're having a lot of trouble with your phone line.

743
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Speaker 1: If you can make a quick point, we'll try to

744
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: comment for you, but please be brief because we have

745
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: a lot of static. Sure. Sure, So this is a

746
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Speaker 1: specialty program. I would love to ask questions actually last

747
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: year and due to the fact that there is probably

748
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Speaker 1: going to be some tnal though with the special teams, guys, Yeah,

749
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Speaker 1: who do you feel would be the most indispensable people?

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00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: If you would special kind of last year? Peter, thank

751
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Speaker 1: you so much for the call. Please call again on

752
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: another program. We'd love to talk to you. So the

753
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: most indispensable members of the Giant Special Team's corps going

754
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: into this season, that's a good question. I don't know.

755
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who led the team in tackles last year.

756
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: Then it was Michael Thomas who went to the Pro

757
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: who went to the Pro Bowl. So that that to

758
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Speaker 1: me right, We're right there, Michael, there has to be

759
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: my Michael Thomas for many reasons. Number one, because he's

760
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Speaker 1: a player. But the two he's also went to the

761
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl too, well, I mean I think that I

762
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: think there's more a propensity for them to lose Michael

763
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Speaker 1: Thomas than there would be after Gross has. You know

764
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because there's only one kicker. Um my

765
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: point is that he's so good, plus he's very valuable

766
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Speaker 1: on defense, and he's a captain. So I would go

767
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Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas. Good. Thank you, Paul, thank you for

768
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Speaker 1: answering the question for me. Okay, no mean to. I

769
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Speaker 1: know I'm thanking you because I had to go through

770
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Speaker 1: my mind. I I really have to think about that one. Um,

771
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of somebody else that just pops

772
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: off the page for I will tell you one guy

773
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: who has has left the Giants be a free agency

774
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: to the Bengals and they will probably miss him, although

775
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: we will see if they can come up with somebody

776
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: else to take his spot. Was Carrie Winn, who was

777
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, yeah, I was wondering where Carrie Winn

778
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: had gone to and he's the Bengals. Okay, how many

779
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: times we would sit on arm in the press box

780
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: and you would watch him making a hit on a

781
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: block or well the effort much dirty work he did.

782
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: It was the effort that he gave on every single

783
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: play that just was so so nice to see. You know,

784
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: never took a playoff. Um. I'll tell you what the

785
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: special teams last year for the Giants collectively was a unit.

786
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, yeah, Michael Thomas

787
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl as one specialist guy. Aldrick

788
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Rosas did too, but collectively that unit did very well

789
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Speaker 1: last year because they played as a team and there

790
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: wasn't really one guy or two guys that really really

791
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: stood out in my mind. They just collectively played all together. Um.

792
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Speaker 1: I think the one guy you know that's important to

793
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: the specialist position would be disc because he's so he

794
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: makes tackles, Okay, he plays, he doesn't get hurt, and

795
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, but he still plays. And also it's

796
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: he's just so important to that that kicking combo, the snap,

797
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: the hole in the kick and and with the punting

798
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: is the coverage not to mention the snap. So Zach

799
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: is a guy that you know. I think that even

800
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: though that everybody can be replaced, that would be one

801
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: position that I would think there would be a tough

802
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: one to transition to because, let me tell you, the

803
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: holder and the kicker worked together so much that when

804
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: one of those parts goes missing, well maybe the punter

805
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: gets let go and now he's the new holder or

806
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: the long snapper or whatever it is. There is some

807
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: transition to it. So those guys, the longer they played together,

808
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: the more years they played consistently, the better they're going

809
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: to get as far as timing and comfortable with each other.

810
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Speaker 1: To a one nine four five one three. Back to

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Speaker 1: the phones line one has Jeff from Rhode Island next

812
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Speaker 1: on the show. Hello, yeah, it is absolutely Hey, we'll

813
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: turn back the hands of time a little bit with

814
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Henry Gods to the Giants and Patriots, uh, preseason games

815
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: and whatnot. I was I was up with my buddies

816
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: at the first game of a play that was then

817
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: known as Shape of State. You remember it, well, have

818
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: anyone the Giants and the Patriots, and believe it or not,

819
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: after the game back in those days, you could actually

820
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: go and talk to the players out in the pocket lot.

821
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know it would never happen today, but

822
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cool and uh yeah, I

823
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: was still enjoy years ago. The Patriots Giants and Patriots

824
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: were playing the Giants that come up and they practiced

825
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: at what was then Brant College was now called Briant University. Yes,

826
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: that's your island, you know, just around the corner for me.

827
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, they'd come up and you know, I

828
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: practiced for the whole week. I mean you could get

829
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: right up close to everybody. It was. It was really

830
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: a nice experience. So I kind of missed that. And

831
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Speaker 1: I also enjoy driving up to Albany as well. It

832
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: was a nice ride and uh that, and I set

833
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: up there too. Two weeks. Man, we got the training

834
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: camp going and uh I'm ready, you know, I'm sure

835
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: you guys are too. So the Giants are at Foxboro

836
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: twice this year, not only for the preseason but also

837
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: the regular season game. So you've got you've got two

838
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: chances to see him in person this time around. Yeah,

839
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: I know, I think I'll be doing it on TV

840
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: because it's a little out of my price range. Well, well,

841
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe you'll get lucky in a neighbor

842
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: will will have an extra ticket. You can watch one.

843
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: You can watch one of them. But I don't think

844
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. So that's what I got for you.

845
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: So thank you for listening and I'll talk you. So

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00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Jeff. Let me let me comment on on

847
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Jeff's comment. It's the Jets of the Bears, the preseason

848
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: games that will be in on NFL Network, the Patriots

849
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: regular season game Nework because that's a Thursday night, a

850
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: national television game. So h you know. Bottom line is, uh,

851
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie, not Charlie. Jeff is is a big

852
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: time Giants fade has been around a long time and

853
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: that's cool. Well, let me give you a quick story. Yes,

854
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: he threw me back to the age of time when

855
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I was there. I went to Smithfield, Rhode Island, to

856
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Bryant College when I was with the Patriots, and the

857
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Giants came to camp when Sean Lindetta was the punter. Okay, um,

858
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I think that Matt Barr must have been the kicker. Maybe, Um,

859
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I don't remember who it was, but

860
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: let me I gotta get my store. So here, I

861
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: am coming from Miami. I am just just raw and

862
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: green around the gills as you can get, trying to

863
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: make the team. And the Giants are in town and

864
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm up there and I'm looking at these players and everybody,

865
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, the giants, guys and me come on. But

866
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the one guy that I was more fascinated was with

867
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels. He scared the living crap out of me.

868
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: That guy. I mean, he was yelling at guys. In

869
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: my favorite term that I heard Bill parcel say one

870
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: day in practice is this running back was running the

871
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: play totally wrong play. And he ran up to him

872
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: and got his face and he said, you know what

873
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know what you are? And you know

874
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: how Bill Parcels is. His voice just just all and

875
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I must have been a hundred yards away

876
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: and I heard him say that. He goes, you know

877
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: what you are, son, You're like a ball in high grass.

878
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what that is? You are lost, totally lost.

879
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: Get off of my field. He kicked him off the field,

880
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I just that

881
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: was my first time that I realized how mean Bill

882
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Parcels was. However, years, years years later, when he was

883
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, I remember coming out to pregame and

884
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: he met me at the Star and he walked up

885
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: to me and he said, I gotta tell your son,

886
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: he calls me son. Yeah, you are one of the

887
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: best players that that that I have ever seen at

888
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: this position. So this is a guy that I feared

889
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: why to be twenty years prior to That's so cool

890
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: and that meant a lot to me because I thought

891
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna come and yell at me. It was a

892
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: great area. I mean it was fun to go up

893
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: there and watch the practices. The fans were up there.

894
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: I missed, you know, I missed. I don't I don't

895
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: know if I could take plane. Uh a training camp

896
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: at your own like they do it here, because there

897
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: was so much camaraderie and some you know, training camp

898
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: was getting a way up in Albany was awesome. Um,

899
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: the fans were able to get really close to the players,

900
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: like Jeff had said, and um, I just don't you know,

901
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: you don't get that anymore. Um. And from a fans perspective,

902
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: I think people do not like it being here. I

903
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: think they would rather have a destination. There were some people,

904
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: as you know, that would take their their two weeks

905
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: vacations over the year to go to Albany and so, um,

906
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: you can't really do that anymore around here. Well, you

907
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: can't please everybody. Know you're positive and a negative to

908
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: every move that you make. There. There absolutely is, and

909
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: you know it's a trend. Most of the team now

910
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: do it at their own facilities very rarely. There might

911
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: be a handful of guys that still go away. But

912
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I think for sure the medical situation is better when

913
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: you're at your home base. Yeah, because I'll tell you

914
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: you had to come down that hill all the time

915
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: to go get an m r I. It's stunk, you know,

916
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: going all the way from Albany to get an m

917
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: r I down at the Hospital Special Surgery as the

918
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: then you turn around and go all the way back.

919
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Guys used to be like, I'm not I'm not telling

920
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: him un hurt because I'm gonna have to go down

921
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: to hs S. That's like a five hour, six hour day. Yeah,

922
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: they would say, no, I'm not telling between the g

923
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: w B and all. But he's about a two and

924
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: a half hour drive. Which way. We go quickly to

925
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: Giants Chat on the Internet and Clayton Harding says about

926
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: the list that we heard from before one of our readers. Again.

927
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: He was saying the top ten Giants players of the

928
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: twenty first century and uh, Clayton Harding says, is it

929
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: the most popular giants are the best players, because obviously

930
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: they are different lists. We've discussed that already. He does

931
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: want to add that you would want to consider entral

932
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: role and maybe Antonio Pierce for one of those lists.

933
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: Good good, Yeah, yeah, that's a tough list. But again,

934
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, the list has to be comprised

935
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: by criteria. What is the criteria? Um, you can have

936
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: an A and a blest you can say this one

937
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: or this one, but just to say and that's a

938
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: good that's a good point. Is it by popularity or

939
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: is there by statistics? What is the criteria? Alright, we're

940
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: going back to the phones and we are going to

941
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: go to line too with one of our loyal callers.

942
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: It is Charlie from Portland, Maine. And Charlie, before you

943
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: say a word, if you mentioned will Beatie, we are

944
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: cutting you off immediately. I have my finger on the button. Charlie,

945
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: now please go ahead, all right, you can't. Well, my

946
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: criteria is who I like, you know, and my favorite

947
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: players who actually played very well. So I would say

948
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: just too, I'll give you two and one is definitely Jeff,

949
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: thank you. Jag should be on that list. Yes, and

950
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: I love how you say. You know, Charlie, you you've

951
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: been a giant. You've been a Giants fan for a

952
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: long time. Charlie going back to the sixties, right yeah, Okay,

953
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: could you give me your favorite Giant from each decade? Sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

954
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: two thousands, No, no, no, I'm gonna give you a

955
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Come on, This has got to be pretty easy, okay,

956
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: Rosie Brown, no problem. Um, I have to go with

957
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: the seventies. I like spider Lock Card. That's not a

958
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: problem either. You picking good guys and eighties, Uh, I

959
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: gotta go with Phil sam mhmm, nineties Uh, Peky Barber,

960
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: he was there in nineties, right, yes, yeah, and uh

961
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: two thousand's I gotta go with uh will beat no no, no, no, no, no,

962
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no no no no. First of all,

963
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: you you're this and Jeff because you just picked ten. Okay, okay, Eli, okay, okay.

964
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: And of course we're in a new decade now. But

965
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it's a little bit a little bit young yet worldly.

966
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Uh actually no, it's not. In the two thousand tens

967
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: were in the teams. That's another decade. So you can

968
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 1: pick one now if you like, another decade Odell Beckham.

969
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Actually you could pick elive for this decade and in

970
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: the two thousands, you know, the previous ten years. You

971
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: could pick somebody else like Michael Strahan because even though

972
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, right, carry Collins, I think that Carry Collins

973
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: was a great job. Ry Collins. Anyway, thank you, great quarterback. Okay,

974
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: what else you got? All right, I'll say, Hey, I

975
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: gotta tell you. The one game I ever went to

976
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: was a preseason game at Foxboro. Yeah, I saw Phil

977
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: Sims and Lawrence Taylor's last year and Phil did play

978
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: a series or so. I don't know if Taylor played

979
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: or not. I can't remember, but I remember seeing him

980
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: on the sideline at least, so h so that that

981
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: was the only time. And back then in Foxborough, it

982
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: like took you like ten hours to get out of

983
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: that place. Well, there's only one road. That's it. There's

984
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: one road, Charlie. It's a very difficult traffic puzzle to navigate.

985
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: It's awful. I mean that was there, Like I got

986
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: home like five in the morning or something. It's ridiculous,

987
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: But that was the one I'm hoping to get I'm

988
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: hoping to go to Foxboro game. That's what I'm shooting for.

989
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: Or I'm going to come to New York. Either one.

990
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: I gotta do one this year, and you gotta come

991
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: to New York so we can see you. If you

992
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: go to Foxborough, We're not gonna be able to see you.

993
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: All right, Then I'll come to New York. Okay, Ali

994
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: got to be in October or late September because I'm

995
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: not coming in the winter because I'll never get there.

996
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: Something will happen with a snowstorm. Well, unfortunately, the Giants

997
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: and Patriots are in Foxboro twice this year. The Pats

998
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: will not be here at MetLife Stadium, so that'll have

999
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: to wait till two. But I think I thought he

1000
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: said he wanted to see the Pats. No, he said, Okay,

1001
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm like New York. Charlie. We're looking forward to saying you.

1002
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you can make it down for trading camp what

1003
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: we want to hustle and try to get some more

1004
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: guys in. Thanks Charlie. Quickly, before we get to a

1005
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: quick moment on the supplemental Draft, which is going to

1006
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: be going on today. Line one has Mark from Chicago.

1007
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: You're on a big Blue Kickoff Live. Hello, all right,

1008
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: I know you're in a hurry for the fifties. I'll

1009
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: add uh either Sam Huff or Frank Gifford in the sixties.

1010
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: I want y t hey great pigs. You can't go

1011
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: wrong with any so anyway, UM, I have a couple

1012
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: of questions or comments about sa Kwan Barkley and his running.

1013
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: He's a great player. There's two things that sort of

1014
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: bothered me with him. I'd like to get your comments,

1015
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: and I also have an officiating question. One is when

1016
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: he runs behind the fullback. I don't really see him

1017
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: following the fullback into into the hole. It seems like

1018
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: he goes one hole over. I don't know if the

1019
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 1: fullback is trying to pick off maybe a linebacker, or

1020
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: if he sees something back year and has you know,

1021
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: can make the decision to go somewhere else. But it

1022
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: sort of bothers me, and I don't know if it's

1023
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: because he really hasn't played with a fullback that often.

1024
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: And the other thing that sort of bothers me is

1025
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: when he does this hurtling I just think he's gonna

1026
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: get himself really upended and injured, and i'd like to,

1027
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, see if you see the same thing. Well,

1028
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now the coaches don't like

1029
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: the hurdling. Nobody does because he is gonna get hurt.

1030
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Knock on wood. He doesn't, but that's that's a dangerous position.

1031
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: And I know he's a great athlete, but the coaches

1032
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: will always tell those players, I do not want you

1033
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: jumping in the air because many when your feet are

1034
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: off the ground, a lot of things can happen. Um.

1035
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: You know. As far as the running style, I can't

1036
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: comment on it because I've never been a running back.

1037
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: I think these guys have a feel in a sixth

1038
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: sense for picking out things that they see at a

1039
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: quick second and a hole and if the fullback is

1040
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: leading up there and that's where the play is supposed

1041
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: to go, I think it's at the running backs discretion.

1042
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: If he sees something there that he wants to take

1043
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: and go for it, he goes for and I think

1044
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: that Sequan has that vision. A lot of people don't.

1045
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: I would also add there's a chemistry that has to

1046
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: be built between the offensive line and the running back.

1047
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: And being that Parkley was a rookie last year, and

1048
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, to be honest

1049
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: with you, the Giants offensive line was really present by

1050
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: injuries and they were shuffling guys in and out. It

1051
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: would be impossible, I believe, for any running back to

1052
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: truly have chemistry with that jigsaw puzzle that the Giants

1053
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: were putting out there every weekend. He just hoped that

1054
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: that jigsaw puzzle doesn't happen this year and that they

1055
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: can get some continuity behind that offensive line and some consistency,

1056
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: because you know, what he did last year was remarkable,

1057
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: and just imagine what he can do this year with

1058
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line that stays healthy and plays together for

1059
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: sixteen games. One of a caveat the one criticism that

1060
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: some people did have at Penn State, say Kwan Blackly,

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: is that there were too many times where he did

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00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: make that extra move because he was trying to make

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: the big play. He wanted to go all the way

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: and you know, to hit the home run, so to speak,

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00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: to steal a baseball phrase. Well, he admitted to us

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00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: that that's something he wanted to clean up when he

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00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: got here to the Giants, and I think over the

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00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: course of the season, you saw him clean that up

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00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Now let's watch him in you two

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00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: once again. He's only a second year player coming into

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00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: this summer, so you know, this guy's got a got

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00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot of football to play. I got a hush.

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00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: By the time he's done, you're gonna be real happy

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Speaker 1: with the results. YEA, yeah, I agree with you. I

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00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: think yours went on. I saw him say, you know what,

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the three or four yards and not

1077
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: trying to do something fancy and get caught for a

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00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: loss or a lesser game experience. The best teacher always

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00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: remember that, right, Um, okay. My officiating question, I figure

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00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: I get this out while they were before even training camp,

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: is what is the rule on the sideline about when

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00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: player um goes out of bounds and they either stop

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00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the clock or wind the clock. Last year, I was

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00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: watching the game. I can't remember which one it was,

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: but it had post season applications. I saw the same

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00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: official do three things. When a player ran out of bounds,

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00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: he stopped the clock, he got stood up with contact,

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: and then pushed out of bounds. He stopped the clock.

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00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: Then I saw a player catch a pass and fall down,

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: and then he rolled out of bounds. And he wound

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00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: the clock. And actually that play actually hurt whatever team

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: it was from actually scoring and I think making the playoffs.

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00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: And it's just a little bit of a play. But

1094
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: when I see that, I get totally confused about what

1095
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: the world really is. And I listened to your answer

1096
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: off the air. Thanks, thank you, Mike. Well, I'm guessing

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00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know the the official but to me,

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00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: forward progress when you're going out of bounds, that is

1099
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: a big, big difference in terms of whether or not

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: the clock it's down and when you roll out of

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: bounds and you're not touched, and that they are going

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00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: to wind the clock because you're trying to get out

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00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 1: of bounds to stop the clock and they're not gonna

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00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: let you do that. The other one is forward progress.

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: If you are going forward and going out of bounds,

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: they will they will stop the clock. If you get

1107
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: hit and go backwards, they're not gonna they're gonna wind

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00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: the clock. That makes all the difference in the world.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely two oh one nine three nine four five one

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: three or hashtag giants chat on Twitter. Uh, we'll see

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: if we have a tweet here that we can get

1112
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: to again that those are all those those plays are

1113
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: all those to the discretion area of the official. That's

1114
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: they're on the sideline. The sideline judge too, to basically

1115
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: make his decision if you were going forward or not

1116
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: to wind the clock or not to to stop it.

1117
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Charlie, a little shout out to you

1118
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: from Clayton Harding, one of our listeners who tweets thanks

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00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: for mentioning Spider black Heart. Yeah. I love the name. Man.

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Speaker 1: He heck of a player too. Uh. Before we go

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Speaker 1: today is the NFL supplemental Draft. Jalen Thompson out of

1122
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: Washington State is likely to be taken taken by someone today,

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: and the other possible selection by someone will be Marcus Sims,

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver out of West Virginia. Now, why is

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00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: this supplemental draft important? Well, really not a little bit.

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00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: It gives you the opportunity to get a guy who

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00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: slipped through the cracks for whatever reason. Now, last year,

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: the Giants selected cornerback Sam Bale with a third round

1129
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: supplemental pick, which meant they had a forfeit this year's

1130
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: third round pick in the regular draft. And why was

1131
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: he in the third He was in the Well, he

1132
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: had the school had had bungled the execution of the

1133
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: mathematics to have him qualify with his credits, and so

1134
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: by the time they got it straightened out, it was

1135
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: already too late to enter the regular NFL draft, so

1136
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: he entered the supplemental draft. The Giants took him. He

1137
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: was injured last year and so basically he was a

1138
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: red shirt, for lack of a better term, he was

1139
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: a pro rookie red shirt. So now in effect he

1140
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: is a rookie this year for the Giants. It's kind

1141
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: of like having a bonus third round pick, if you will,

1142
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: because they had a forfeit of third round pick. But

1143
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: he becomes that third round pick and the Giants have

1144
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot of high hopes for him. So you know,

1145
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: it can be a useful tool. Uh, it doesn't happen

1146
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: a ton. There have been a number of them. I

1147
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: guess Chris Carter was probably the most successful. Is that

1148
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: fair to say? Steve wash from the Miami was also

1149
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: that they not have a great NFL career with one

1150
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: of the other Josh Gordon is another one who was taken,

1151
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, but I think it was the most successful.

1152
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: Me ask you a question on behalf of the listeners.

1153
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: How what is the what is the how does somebody

1154
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: get to pick one of these guys in the order? Well,

1155
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: what happens is they go in the reverse order of

1156
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: last year's standings. Okay, and you have to submit basically

1157
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: like a closed bid, Like if it's an auction, I'm

1158
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: going to submit I want let's say Marcus Sims. Third round.

1159
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: It's a closed bit. So now the NFL in reverse order.

1160
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Speaker 1: In the first round, they'll go through and they'll start

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01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: opening up and say, okay, did anybody been Nobody been

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: in the first round? Okay, that's it. We go to

1163
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Speaker 1: the second round. Anybody been a second round pick? And

1164
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: again it's gonna be a reverse order of the standings

1165
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: and that and that's that what happened. And that's how

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Speaker 1: Giants the Giants last year. Nobody did first the second pick, right,

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01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: and the Giants were in reverse order. Remember there they

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: were three and sixteen the year before. Would you give them?

1169
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: So they're the reverse order, correct, That's how they got

1170
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: the third round. They put a third round pick on

1171
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: Sam Beale, and that's how the Giants got him in

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: the third in the third round of the supplement. Now

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01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: I've had questions on Twitter, asking me do you think

1174
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: that the Giants would put a bid not in for

1175
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: market Sims, the receiver out of West Virginia, but for

1176
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: the safety Jalen Thompson out of Washington State, now terrific player,

1177
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of production, also did have a band substance,

1178
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: a situation that wound up prohibiting him from being taken

1179
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: during the regular draft, which is why he's in the supplemental.

1180
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: We've heard great things about him, Jeff, But quite frankly,

1181
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants have room in the stay

1182
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: at the safety spot between Bathet Peppers, Thomas and even

1183
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Sean Chandler now flashes a rookie lash year, I don't

1184
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: think that they have room at the safety spot to

1185
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: be to be taken a pick here. Well, I don't

1186
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: think they're that excited about giving up whatever. Now, Listen,

1187
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: they could go in and say, you know what, yeah,

1188
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: we'll give a six round pick for him. Maybe they

1189
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: could could, because really a sixth round is not as

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01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: important to me in my opinion as a third round,

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: whatever round you want, That's what I'm saying. So maybe

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: they get away with it, the Giants being you know whatever,

1193
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: it is and they say, I will take a sixth

1194
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: round and nobody wants this guy. You gotta have. There's

1195
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: there's there's questions when you have off the field issues.

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: And obviously this guy is a good enough player who

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: would have been able to get drafted if if he

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't have some other obstacles to go by. Therefore, you

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: know they're Bell was not one of those guys. Sam

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01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Bill was in the supplemental Draft because of academic things,

1201
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: not because of off the field problems. That's why the

1202
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: third round warrants Sam Bill care In my opinion, I

1203
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: don't think uh not a third round pick for him

1204
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: at a at a log jam position. Forget about it.

1205
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Speaker 1: We're out of time for today on Big Bricket Golf

1206
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: Live here on Giants dot com. We will be back

1207
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Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve o'clock Eastern chime for another one hour show.

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Speaker 1: We will be previewing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, another one

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Speaker 1: of the Giants two thousand nineteen opponents. To a good team,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be a good team. To one nine, nine,

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Speaker 1: four five, one three is our number. If you want

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Speaker 1: to jot it down, always Twitter hashtag Giants Chat. I

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Speaker 1: am at Giants w F A N. He is at

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Speaker 1: j F Eagels, so you can hit us up there

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Speaker 1: as well. That'll do it for today. Jeff A, right

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Speaker 1: to see again. To Tino, great to see you, Dave,

1217
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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Thanks to Bob Soci the play voice.

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Speaker 1: So the New England Patriots for joining us. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time. Where Up, Where Up,