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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: Halfy Thursday, everybody, Steve Tasker along with my good friend

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Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso from CBS Sports. We're here today untill three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about free agency, the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: all the stuff going on around with the quarterbacks, with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, with Lamar Jackson, all of that stuff's going on.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got called out by somebody. He's got to

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Speaker 1: grow up. A lot of stuff going on around the league.

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Speaker 1: We're getting geared up for free agency, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: invite you to come along with us. You can tweet

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Speaker 1: us if you want what free agent move do you

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Speaker 1: want to see the Bills make and one you don't

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Speaker 1: a call at eight o three oh five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight eight fifty two five fifty. Steve Tasker, Christrapasso.

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Speaker 1: Just getting started today. We've been talking about free agency

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Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of stuff and you're putting

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Speaker 1: stuff out on CBS Sports about you know who the

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Speaker 1: Bills could take, would take positions and the caveat you

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Speaker 1: always have is it's a little bit like the mock

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Speaker 1: draft season. You don't know who's gonna trade up or

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Speaker 1: down in the first round, and you don't know what

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Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna do in free agency and or

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna need when the draft comes along, because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sign free agents first, so we could have

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Speaker 1: a weakness become a strength in just a few days.

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Speaker 1: And before any of that happens, we're gonna see some restructuring.

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Speaker 1: We're starting to see that around the league. Yeah, free

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Speaker 1: up some cash. Yeah, they're gonna have to do that.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Bills are right around thirteen million over

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Speaker 1: the cap, and they need to get under the cap

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Speaker 1: by the start of the new league gear, which happens

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Speaker 1: early next week. The Josh Allen restructure is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think when they signed him to that monster deal,

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Speaker 1: they knew, okay, in twenty twenty three, right before the

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Speaker 1: start of the new league year, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a contract restructure. It's not anything bad. It's what

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Speaker 1: teams do all across the league. Von Miller is going

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Speaker 1: to probably get restructured as well. At that point, the

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Speaker 1: Bills are probably around twenty million dollars right in that

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Speaker 1: range under the cap. They could also restructure Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 1: treed Avious White and get upwards of thirty four thirty

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Speaker 1: five million under the cap. Now we set this off

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Speaker 1: the year. In the past, the last three years, the

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Speaker 1: Bills have averaged about ten outside free agents signing with

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Speaker 1: the team every year twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: last year they have to kind of spread the money

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Speaker 1: around a little bit more. They don't have as much

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Speaker 1: money with Josh Allen on that big cap hit in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, so they have to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit more selective when it comes to signing three ages

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Right, So Josh, Josh's numbers average salaries

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Speaker 1: forty three, just over forty three per year, and it

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Speaker 1: goes all the way till twenty twenty nine. He's guaranteed

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars of it six years,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty eight million total if he sees

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Speaker 1: the end of it, and they've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: room to move money and move money around, turn it

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Speaker 1: into a bonus because you know, for Bills fans, you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh didn't go anywhere. So what they can do is,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know this, it's cap one on one.

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Speaker 1: They can take all of his salary this year and

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Speaker 1: make it into a signing bonus and he gets it all.

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Speaker 1: He'll get one big check for whatever, forty three million

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Speaker 1: bucks right in his pocket, which is very nice. But

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Speaker 1: if you're the team, what that means is you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay Josh anyway. But yeah, if you give

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Speaker 1: him the money now, then you've got you free all

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Speaker 1: the money up that it would have been. You spread

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Speaker 1: it out over the rest of the contract and only

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Speaker 1: counts like six million towards your cap. It lowers the

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Speaker 1: cap lower, it lowers the cap, and you can spend

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Speaker 1: more money more cash this year. Doesn't mean you know

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Speaker 1: you have to, but you can if you want. That's

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, not only Josh, but Von Miller,

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Speaker 1: all the big contracts, Von Miller, Steph Diggs, Trey White,

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Speaker 1: for this. These are all players that you know they're

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Speaker 1: This season. That's all it is to it. So you

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Speaker 1: can give them the money now and free up some

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Speaker 1: cash space, some cap space or not, and not sign

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Speaker 1: any free agents. Yeah, and it's the other cap one

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Speaker 1: on one and that this is the next phase in

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Speaker 1: the team building process that you start from the ground floor.

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Speaker 1: You draft players, you hope they're good, You sign them

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Speaker 1: not going to be traded, there your core players. The

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Speaker 1: next step is restructuring. I always think back to think

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Speaker 1: two years ago, right after the season, the Chiefs restructured

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Travis Keltie, and Patrick Mahomes. So, like that

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Speaker 1: is just what you have to do when you're an

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Speaker 1: elite level Super Bowl contending team to like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: just fill out the rest of your roster with free agents. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing that you got to know, ultimately

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Speaker 1: there is a real cap. Now. The question is you

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Speaker 1: can push money down the road, but sooner or later

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Speaker 1: it comes back. You've got to end. The Saints are

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Speaker 1: notorious for this. They keep they're still doing it. They're

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Speaker 1: still doing it. They still have to but one of

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Speaker 1: these time. One of these seasons, they're going to decide, okay,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna go away for at least two years.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna they're gonna have to sign street

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Speaker 1: free agents, you know, play a lot of rookies and

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Speaker 1: and do that. The cap is real in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It sooner or later it works. Now here's and here's why,

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Speaker 1: and here's why. The owners get it both ways. And

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Speaker 1: they should. I mean, it's their team. This they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're shelling out cat all kinds of cat like if

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Speaker 1: they I mean, somebody's gotta have. Like if they do

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Speaker 1: Josh and they give him all this bonus money, they

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Speaker 1: gotta have dozens of millions of dollars to pay. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's real money. They got to cough up the cat. Right.

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Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. When the cap does kick in,

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Speaker 1: allowed to pay it, so they gotta keep it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sooner or later it works out for them, but they

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Speaker 1: gotta have cash. They call it cash flow. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: to pay the piper and it's gonna be bad. But

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Speaker 1: the reason beyond just it being the normal progression in

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Speaker 1: building your team when you are a Super Bowl contender,

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Speaker 1: the set the sailory cap is going to be higher.

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Speaker 1: It goes up between ten to twelve maybe even at

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Speaker 1: like the top of the quarterback market, and now it's

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Speaker 1: like the sixth or the seventh highest paid quarterback after

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, after Justin Herbert. Those contracts that we talked

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Speaker 1: about yesterday, Josh Allen's gonna look like a bargain. So

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Speaker 1: that is the one. Already he's looking like a bargain.

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Speaker 1: He's already looking like a bargain. But it will get

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Speaker 1: better over time. So when you're pushing to the future,

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Speaker 1: it seems like I don't think you should do that.

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Speaker 1: But in reality, the Sailory cap two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: it's going to get bigger over time. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's actually smart to do. Yeah, to me, it's not

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Speaker 1: financially irresponsible at all. They got it. They know the numbers,

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Speaker 1: they can project this out there. They can they can

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Speaker 1: stay well within parameters you know where it's your response

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Speaker 1: ball irresponsible. Yeah, that's what it is. The GMS and

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Speaker 1: the coaching scouting staff. It would all be honky dory

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's it's football irresponsible because that

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Speaker 1: guy's never gonna live up to the contracts that some

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Speaker 1: but they still gotta pay him. So it's foot but

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Speaker 1: That's where it's football irresponsible, not financial irresponsibility, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of times when those guys, certainly like Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: And if you're signing someone that's well into his thirties,

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Speaker 1: that it's more not a good idea from a football

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Speaker 1: keep pushing it down the road. Yeah, I'm giving elder

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Speaker 1: is gutted. Steve Tasker, Chris Ripasso here, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: spot Track. He's gonna come on and give us some

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Speaker 1: insights as to how much cap space the bills could

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Speaker 1: free up. You know, you even did your own way,

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Speaker 1: you can get the bills could almost get thirty four

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Speaker 1: seems as though the report's coming out. We heard this

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, a team who without saying it and

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Speaker 1: what Jim Kelly does, Peyton Manning go down the list,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve. They do believe in themselves. They spend their

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Speaker 1: entire career overcoming obstacles and problems. Tom Brady did it.

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Speaker 1: He used it to his advantage. When you know he's

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Speaker 1: he was so thankful just to get drafted by the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: He spent the rest of his career paying him back, right.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe Flacco went into a contract year and

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Speaker 1: took him to the Super Bowl and won. It was

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Speaker 1: the MVP of the game. He bet on himself and

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Speaker 1: one and he was the highest paid player in the

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Speaker 1: league back then, you know, ten years ago. It's just

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Speaker 1: the way it works. And so when you get to

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Speaker 1: a place where Brett Farve and the Packers have to

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Speaker 1: part ways, I think it comes about in the very

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Speaker 1: end about managing the relationship. Certainly, he's always going to

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Speaker 1: have a place in Packer history. He's always going to

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Speaker 1: be thought of as a Packer. No matter what happens

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Speaker 1: in New York, he's there, what two three, even he

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Speaker 1: goes they're three years and has one game, a good game,

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Speaker 1: a good season or whatever, or even wins a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with New York, he's still gonna be thought of

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Speaker 1: as a Packer and in the end of it. So

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Speaker 1: it's the part of the game that none of us

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Speaker 1: really get to peek behind the curtain of sometimes because

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Speaker 1: it's you know, everything else is out there. You see

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Speaker 1: him on the field and watch it. But this is

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Speaker 1: kind of it's the off season and it's about how

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Speaker 1: players and organizations operate, and it's not always pretty. And

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Speaker 1: I think the stale part of it is that the

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Speaker 1: Packers have gotten MVP caliber seasons from Aaron Rodgers late

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Speaker 1: in his career, but they haven't even gotten to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And when you look at the Jets, the

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Speaker 1: elephant in the room is they need a veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They don't have time to try to roll the dice

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Speaker 1: on a young player. They certainly saw Zach Wilson flame

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Speaker 1: out a lot faster than anyone in that building expected

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Speaker 1: just kind of makes sense as a pairing that the

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Speaker 1: a packer, like you're saying, Steve, but they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got awesome play from you in your late thirties,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it was our fault. If you're looking internally

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Speaker 1: just still couldn't even win a Super Bowl. The Jets

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Speaker 1: are like ripe for the picking, and they need that

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but will be certainly in big upgrade at

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Speaker 1: that position. So the Jets may or may not get

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's going to change the dynamic in the AFC

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Speaker 1: East in a big way, particularly if Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: the report that Tom Brady's gonna come out and think

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Speaker 1: about playing for the Dolphins, and if things are going

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Speaker 1: to change quite drastically in the next few months if

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Speaker 1: those two things happen. Other than that, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Bills free agent market. Chris ter Poso, Steve Tasker here, Chris,

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Speaker 1: You've got some stuff, some thoughts about some free agents

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Speaker 1: that you think would be great targets for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: And it seemed at this point it's obvious the position

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Speaker 1: needs to have, you know, interior offensive line and safety.

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Speaker 1: We were laughing, it's it's Micah Hyde and nobody at

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Speaker 1: the safety position, where you gotta have two guys on

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Speaker 1: the field and two guys at least backing them up.

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Speaker 1: We got like one guy. There's that. Plus, we're asking

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Speaker 1: you out there what Bills free agent move would you

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Speaker 1: like to see them make this offseason? And which one

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Speaker 1: do you not want them to make. You can call

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Speaker 1: us at eight to three oh five fifty or eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We've got some tweets

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Speaker 1: and responses coming in now. We'll get to those a

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Speaker 1: little later in the show. But Chris, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you when you look at this, certainly interior offensive

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Speaker 1: line and safety is where you begin. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on who the Bills should think about. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of players on the interior of the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and if we look back at the history of Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean over the last three or four years, they average

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Speaker 1: bringing in around three outside offensive linemen per year. So

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Speaker 1: it even though the Bills don't have a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the restructuring ability where they can free

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Speaker 1: up some space. They're going to bring in blockers up front.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean likes to lean the veteran route in the

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Speaker 1: trenches over drafting someone. They certainly drafted Cody Ford in

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Speaker 1: the second round of twenty nineteen, but in general, with

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Speaker 1: Roger Staffold and Quentin Spain and John Feliciano Taian Saki,

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Speaker 1: they've liked to lean in that direction. I really like

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Speaker 1: Nate David of the Tennessee Titans. They've gone to the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. I mentioned Quentin Spain. Roger Staffold played for

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Speaker 1: the Titans as well. Nate Davis to me, is that

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Speaker 1: really powerful run blocker who's actually coming off his best

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Speaker 1: season as a pass protector when it mattered most where.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be able to make more money in

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Speaker 1: free agency. Six foot three three and twenty pounds, built

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Speaker 1: really low to the ground, gets low with that knee

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Speaker 1: band that I'm always looking for when I'm scouting draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: Just someone that I think can come in. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna cost fifteen million dollars per season, might be between

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Speaker 1: seven to nine million dollars. They're only paying Ryan Bates

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Speaker 1: four point eight million dollars over the next three years

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Speaker 1: in each season, so they're not already having a huge

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Speaker 1: other guard on the roster, so they can afford to

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Speaker 1: spend a little bit upfront. When you're looking at interior

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Speaker 1: offensive line, there's a lot of pieces, maybe not big

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Speaker 1: names because they can't really get that big ticket item

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Speaker 1: in the trenches. But Nate Davis I like a lot, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think it's a good move because

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Speaker 1: this class, I mean, you go down there's guys like

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Speaker 1: Nate Davis, Ethan Pochick, Garrett Bradbury, Dalton Risner, Ben Powers

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Speaker 1: has been mentioned by a lot of people and he

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Speaker 1: may be the best guy out there at the moment.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problem, and I hate to keep bringing

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Speaker 1: it up, but they need caps based to sign these guys,

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Speaker 1: and you can kind of you can kind of get

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Speaker 1: an idea of how good or bad the guy is

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Speaker 1: by the amount of the size of his contract. That's

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Speaker 1: if they're signing this guy for a veteran minimum, you

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Speaker 1: can bet there's nobody out there who wants him. And

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Speaker 1: that's I hate to say it like that, but and

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Speaker 1: the guy could outperform that, no question about it. You

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Speaker 1: can have a guy to hit a home run for you.

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Speaker 1: But when you see these guys signed, if they're signed

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Speaker 1: to a two year, do you like Roger Saffold last

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Speaker 1: year he was more than adequate him and he was

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Speaker 1: an upgrade over the guy that had the year before.

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Speaker 1: And whether it's Cody Ford or they kind of shuffled

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Speaker 1: at different players, they did, and so he was an

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Speaker 1: upgrade in the offensive line, played better than they got

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Speaker 1: credit for. I think this last year compared to where

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Speaker 1: they were a year before, But you never know until

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Speaker 1: you get him in there and line them up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think with Nate Davis, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to break the bank. He's not in elite guard

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Speaker 1: where he's going to cost a lot of money and

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Speaker 1: it's an obvious big ticket signing, But I think he

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Speaker 1: kind of fits that mold middle tier free agency is

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Speaker 1: where Brandon Being and Sean McDermott have really struck gold

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Speaker 1: with guys like Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer was a lower

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Speaker 1: level guy, John Brown, Cole Beasley. They've done a good

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Speaker 1: job to not break the bank, not overspend on players,

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Speaker 1: find maybe some undervalued guys that aren't veteran minimum type

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Speaker 1: players that are bottom of the roster guys, but players

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Speaker 1: that were maybe not full time starters on their previous

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Speaker 1: teams and have the best football in front of them.

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Speaker 1: Are guys that were misused or whatever. We're gonna before

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Speaker 1: we get to the next one, we're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: break here, come back and talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: free agents. Who Chris thinks we should take the Bills,

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Speaker 1: that is, should sign a free agency and a philosophy

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Speaker 1: they're in much more to come. Mike Genet's coming up

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour from spot Track. Will

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Speaker 1: get some word from him on what's restructuring the Bills

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Speaker 1: could do, might do, will do in order to sign

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Speaker 1: these free agents. Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso on One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, brought to you by Kalidah Health.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives,

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Speaker 1: Chief Tasker Chris Trapasso. Here's Chris, Mike Ginetti from spot

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Speaker 1: Tracks coming on to the top of the hour. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about free agents and Chris has done some work

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Speaker 1: on guys who are possibilities for the Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 1: we brought up Nate Davis, a guard from Tennessee who

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Speaker 1: is pretty highly ranked as the overall prospects in free

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Speaker 1: agency and interior offensive line and one of their things.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into another one that you're going

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Speaker 1: to share with us, we gotta make sure we put

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Speaker 1: the caveat out there. The problem with these things is this,

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Speaker 1: we don't know where the roster's going to be, or

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Speaker 1: where it is, or how much money they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to spend. So this is where you can kind of

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Speaker 1: pick your guy and you know you're not going to

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Speaker 1: the Bills are not going to sign a premier left

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Speaker 1: tackle in free agency, but a lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: are right in the wheelhouse of where the Bills have

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Speaker 1: signed guys before to short term or two or three

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Speaker 1: year deals as well. You start out with Nate Davis

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Speaker 1: and let's go. Let's skip over the next one to

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Speaker 1: go to the safeties. I want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: safety before we get back to the linebackers. We know

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to do one of those as well.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about linebackers? And your name is

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Speaker 1: the guy from Dallas. Yeah, Layton vander esh really would

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Speaker 1: be coming kind of coming full circle for the Bills

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Speaker 1: that he was a pre draft visitor of the Bills

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, picked right after Tremaine Edmunds, and he

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Speaker 1: similarly sized admins. We've heard so much about, and I've

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Speaker 1: talked about this that Edmunds being six five and two

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Speaker 1: hundred and almost fifty pounds with those long arms is

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Speaker 1: kind of like a soccer net in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the Bills defense. Layton Banderesh is almost the same size,

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Speaker 1: not quite as fast in a straight line, and maybe

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Speaker 1: not the same car Ridge player, but he's twenty six

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Speaker 1: years old. He was awesome as a rookie in Dallas

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Speaker 1: as a three down blitzer run defender, coverage guy. Then

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Speaker 1: hurts his neck and the next two seasons twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty was on the shelf a lot, did

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Speaker 1: not play a whole lot of football. He slowly but

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Speaker 1: surely become one hundred percent healthy over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons, and he's been really good. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: been an underrated player with Micah Parsons and Trevon Diggs

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Speaker 1: becoming the superstars on that Dallas defense. He's another one

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Speaker 1: like Nate Davis. I don't think will break the bank

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Speaker 1: and would give the Bills kind of the same size

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Speaker 1: element at the middle linebacker spot. So if you're looking

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Speaker 1: at that kind of cost controlled veteran, that's pretty similar

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Speaker 1: to Tremaine Edmunds, that's late and Vanderesh. Yeah, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: too that the Bills are familiar with him and probably

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Speaker 1: were highly interested in him until Tremaine Edmunds probably fell

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Speaker 1: down to the Bills and they traded up to get him.

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Speaker 1: And that's it's interesting because he's already a guy that

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Speaker 1: caught their eye and now he's a good athlete. To

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Speaker 1: the neck injury is probably something they'll have to get

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Speaker 1: cleared medically with what they which they would do before

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Speaker 1: they sign him. But because of that injury and because

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Speaker 1: maybe perhaps Dallas is shying away from giving him a

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Speaker 1: long term deal, maybe that makes him into that price

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Speaker 1: range or that level of financially that the Bills would

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Speaker 1: get in on the conversation. Now, let's let's move on

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Speaker 1: and talk about safety's safeties. Safeties Andrew Wingard is the

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Speaker 1: guy that I think the Bills should target more than

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Speaker 1: any other safety, and I think they will. They just

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Speaker 1: hired Joe Dana as their new safeties coach, and guess

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Speaker 1: where he was the last three years with Jacksonville and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wingard. There's more connections to Andrew Wingard and the Bills.

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Speaker 1: He went to Wyoming same time as Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: picked one year after Josh Allen actually was an undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent in twenty nineteen out of Wyoming. Crazy productive there,

651
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Speaker 1: and he fits the Bills mold of John Feliciano and

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00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Colby's Lee, these guys that were good players in their

653
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: initial stops in the NFL, but were never really given

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Speaker 1: long term, full time starting role. In twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: he did play a lot in that Urban Meyer disaster.

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00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: This past season, new coaching staff, new assistance was kind

657
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: of a backup player that they had, you know, other

658
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: players that they brought in that were their guys. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Andrew Wingard again is relegated to a

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Speaker 1: backup role. He's not amazing. He's not someone that is

661
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: going to come in and be an all pro immediately.

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00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: But I always go back to the fact that Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer and Michael Hyde were not big ticket free agent signings,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like Sean McDermott being as established of

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Speaker 1: a defensive schemer and play caller as he is He's

666
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: gotten quality play, high level play, all pro play from

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Speaker 1: the safety spot without having a first round pick at

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Speaker 1: safety or a big ticket item. Andrew Wingard just fits

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Speaker 1: what the Bills like and there's a lot of relationship

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Speaker 1: connection between him and new assistant coach on the Bill's staff.

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00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah he looks like Sean McDermott with long haired beard,

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Speaker 1: because me, he does. He looks exactly like it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Andrew Windgard. That's it's interesting stuff and and

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Speaker 1: it will be interested to hear from our from our

675
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Speaker 1: listeners if you want to get it on the conversation

676
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: at eight three oh five fifty, or you can tweet

677
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: at us at One Bill's Drive or One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Um, there's a lot going on, and you've

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Speaker 1: got all this stuff like from from the Adelaide. They've

680
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: got top ten positions they've got you can go down

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: the list quarterbacks all the way down through to safeties

682
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Speaker 1: and corners, and I think one of the guys, I'm

683
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: I still focus on the spots on the team where

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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have deficiencies, and it all starts

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Speaker 1: up from one of the things too, is you know

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is gone or his contract is up. I

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00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: think he really likes it here in Buffalo, like a

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00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: lot of these guys do. Um. But you look at

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00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: the free agent list in defensive tackle and it's like

690
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Hargrave from the Eagles, Draymond Jones, Zach Allen from the Cardinals,

691
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson from the Vikings, David Oyamada from the Saints.

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00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys out there. Fletcher Cox from

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Speaker 1: the Eagles as well, play really good player, but he's old,

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Speaker 1: so it'd be an interesting to see, you know, where

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Speaker 1: the Bills fall into that that spot. Sheldon Rankin's from

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: the Jet. Uh. There's a ton of guys down there,

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Speaker 1: and I think that the Bills could be in a

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Speaker 1: position where that's all. I think because of Sean mcdermot's

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Speaker 1: background of defense, and because of where they are philosophically

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Speaker 1: and with their contracts, I still think they're going to

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: keep that defensive line full of at least potential and forever.

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00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: Dating back to his time in Philly with the Eagles,

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00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: certainly in Carolina with the Panthers, and then here in

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00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo with the Bills, Sean McDermott and that defense and

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00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: maybe Leslie Fraser had something to do with this, but

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Speaker 1: it's Sean mcdermot's defense first and foremost. They rotate their

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: defensive line more than any other team in football. You're

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00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: not going to see any Bills front seven player outside

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Speaker 1: of the linebackers play more than sixty percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's some of the stats individually aren't

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Speaker 1: crazy and compared to the rest of the league for

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Speaker 1: a Fletcher Cox or an Aaron Donald that are playing

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Speaker 1: seventy eighty ninety percent of the snaps, So that's more

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Speaker 1: of the reason. Even though the Bills did bring in

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Speaker 1: Tim Settle last year, de Kwon Jones, who is very

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Speaker 1: very good at that nose tackle spot, star Latu Lay

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Speaker 1: in the past, they've certainly kept it fresh upfront because

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Speaker 1: they use seven eight nine guys between thirty to sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps. They love to rotate, so at

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Speaker 1: the end of a game and at the end of

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Speaker 1: a season, those defensive linemen are not worned down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we've got We're taking your calls. We've got one

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Speaker 1: in Amherst. Marie and Amherst. She wants to make a

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Speaker 1: trade for offensive line help instead of just going free agency. Marie,

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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's Live. Thanks for coming on with us.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind about making a trade. What are

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Speaker 1: we gonna get and what are we gonna give up?

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Speaker 1: So I think that we should send pretty much the

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Speaker 1: third or the fourth pick to Minnesota for Dalvin Cooks.

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Speaker 1: Hear me out. You know, ever since Lashawn McCoy got

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Speaker 1: traded away, we have only preserved our running backs for

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Speaker 1: other teams. So it's pretty much safe to say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, his brother can carry a good part of

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Speaker 1: the low He averaged what five six yards to carry

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Speaker 1: last season, Jane, So that's a pretty good pick up

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Speaker 1: right there, I believe. And then I don't think that

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Speaker 1: we should be going out getting safeties. We got Jaquan Johnson.

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Speaker 1: We can bring him back, let him earn his spot.

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Speaker 1: He want to make some money, let him earn it

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Speaker 1: for a future contract. And bring Dean Merlo back as well,

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Speaker 1: because Dean is experienced, and I'm sure that being could

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Speaker 1: grab some great offensive lineman some free agents. So I'm

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00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: not worried about that. But I mean that's pretty much

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: we need to tight end. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: can go take er Fay tight end off of another

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Speaker 1: team because I'm trying to tell you that Jody Fortune

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Speaker 1: from Kansas City, I would really grab him. He's big,

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Speaker 1: he's physical, He's been getting Travis Opening, and he had

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00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: a couple of injuries, but I think he's good. And

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Speaker 1: then the last thing is that I know I've been

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00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: saying this for a long time about Elijah Griffin, but

752
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: we let Taiwan Jones on special teams. We had him

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: out there. I'm sure you know he's that pro, he's older.

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: That kid will be a great special teamer. He knows

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: the city, the area, he's familiar with the team. To

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00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: bring him back on special teams, I think that would

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00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: be just amazing. But I do not think we need

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00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: to go get any safety, spend that money on an

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and trade that pick and go get Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: Trade that third or fourth round pick for Dalvin Cook.

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00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay that's where you start. Okay, good. I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I got that right. Yeah, I get yet,

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Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook can play, and I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Minnesota part with him for a

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00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: third or fourth maybe they would, but you'd be given

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00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: up exactly what the draft picks you used to get

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00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary and Zach Moss a third round pick and

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: to pay yeah for a proven player. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't have a problem with that. Dalvin Cook's

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00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: a great player, and to have those two guys in

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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: the same room would probably be a lot of fun

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00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: for them and it would probably motivate them a ton.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure if I'm with you

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Speaker 1: for Daqwan Johnson and Dean Marlowe. I mean, neither of

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00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: those guys are in a contract. Certainly you could bring

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00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: him back for sure, and they would you know, they'd

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: be able to step in if Yeah, if the Bills

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00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody better out there, sure bring those

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00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: guys back. But if you can do better, do better.

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Speaker 1: And I think the tight end, the Kansas City tight end,

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Speaker 1: the guy that backs up Kelsey, Yeah, I'm yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna this is a big draft for tight ends too,

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Speaker 1: so they might be able to get a guy who's

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Speaker 1: a real stud at twenty seven or even at fifty four.

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00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: So I like all that stuff. You're you're on the

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00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: right track. You can't forget about the offensive line. You

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00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: got them bring guys in that can really play if

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00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: you can. But I don't have a problem with either

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00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: of those trades. Yeah, that's why I'm figuring that we

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00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't get. You know that we keep the safeties that

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00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: we got. We were say, we got to save money

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00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: somewhere after restructure on contract. Might as well keep the

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00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: guys that notice system. We know that they love football.

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00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm playing hard. I haven't really seen those guys pretty

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00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: much give up big plays or look like, you know,

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00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: they just couldn't get the job done. All right, thanks

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00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: for or anything any thought, Chris, what are your thoughts about?

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00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: Two thoughts? I think the idea of Dalvin Cook impairing

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: him with his brother is a lot of fun. And

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Speaker 1: if you could get him for I think a little

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00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: less than that fourth or fifth rounder, I think would

802
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: be a lot better. You got to be able to block, though,

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: and the Bill's offensive line I don't think was a

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: great run blocking unit last season, and suddenly plug him

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00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: into an offensive line that doesn't have a lot of

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00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: upgrades because you're spending a fourth or a fifth round

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00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: pick on Cook not going to maybe be quite as good.

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00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: But upgrading the floor of the tight end room I

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00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: think will be a priority. They brought in Oj Howard

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00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: last season. It didn't ultimately work out. Whether it's the draft,

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Speaker 1: trade or free agency. I think Bean Will it's kind

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00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: of a sneaky move for this team to add more

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Speaker 1: depth at tight end. We're gonna take a break. Steve

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00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: tash or Chris Trapasso here, We're waiting on Mike Janette.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hook up with him right at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour. We got more of your calls, your

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Speaker 1: tweets coming up right after the break. One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from on Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Clyde to help,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tacker, Chris Trepasso here um from CBS Sports. I

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta know, we gotta tweet sheet. People are

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Speaker 1: starting to come up with stuff. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: And I love our listeners and stuff, but I'm a

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00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: victim of my own devices as well. Like Marie. Last

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Speaker 1: we start talking about trading for Dalvin Cook in a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, You're gonna have a hard time getting

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Speaker 1: that done, YEA. So if you're gonna have us trade

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Speaker 1: for you know, Derrick Henry and give Tennessee Titans a

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Speaker 1: bag of footballs. I don't think you're gonna get that done.

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Speaker 1: I mean it'd be great, or you're gonna trade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna trade. You know, a Bill's banner for DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: I get that that'd be a great move if you

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00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: can pull it off. But some of the stuff is

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Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. Some of these guys are up

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Speaker 1: for trade DeAndre. We got some tweets about that, So

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Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and read a couple of tweets

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet brought to you and presented by

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Speaker 1: Corgan Moving Systems, the Official Equipment Moving Systems or the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. First on the tweet sheet is from Tank.

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Speaker 1: He thinks we should sign me Cole Hardman to spread

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00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: the defense out with his speed. They thinks they should

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: not sign Tremaine Edmonds. He's gonna be too expensive. Then

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00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: get him for cheap. Yeah, they'll take him and Tremaine Edmunds,

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Speaker 1: his size, his speed, his age, his durability. Excuse me

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00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: is a low risk move, particular if you're gonna guarantee

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00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: money on a long term contract, that makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. Tremaine Edmonds, He's never hurt and he's twenty five.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty five, he's gonna be twenty six as a

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Speaker 1: six year veteran. Yeah, I don't hate that idea. I

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00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: think again, going that middle tier at the receiver spot

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Speaker 1: in free agency is the most likely for the Bills.

852
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I think they understand that they have to get a

853
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: little bit better at that position even going into the draft.

854
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: But I always look at like I always look at

855
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: it from an aide draft angle, and that the Bills

856
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: have spent four of their last five first or second

857
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: round picks on defense, six of the last eight picks

858
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: in the first or the second round on defense. I

859
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: would like them to kind of go that route a

860
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: little bit more than paying even a mid level wide

861
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: receiver when you already have your elite wide receiver in

862
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: Stefen Diggs still making a lot of money. So Mikole Hardman,

863
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: the speed that he brings, I think would add a

864
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: fun element that would fit with what Josh Allen likes

865
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: to do offensively, certainly stretched the defense down the field.

866
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I just don't know if the Bills are going to

867
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: have the big Stefen Diggs contract and then another kind

868
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: of expensive deal in Mikol Hartman, right, And I'll say

869
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: this too. I get it at the end of the season.

870
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: The thing that made the Bills different from the teams

871
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: that were there was all the production that the Chiefs

872
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: got from their wide receivers, Mikole Hardman, Juju Smith Schuster

873
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: and those and everybody MBS. And the Bills had Steph

874
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: Diggs and then Gabe Davis, you know, not doing it

875
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: and you're dropping the ball and stuff, and you had

876
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir, you had Beasley and all these guys. They

877
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: were rotating, and they didn't really have their guys right.

878
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: And then you look at Cincinnati. They've got those three

879
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: jokers over there, right. So the Bills seem different from

880
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: the top two teams in the comp and the Bills

881
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: are right there with them, But they did it differently

882
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: than those teams did. They didn't have Jamar Chase and

883
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: Ti Higgins and Tyler Boyd, and they didn't have Juju

884
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster. They didn't have valle As Scantling, they didn't

885
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: have Miko Hardman or Travis Kelsey. So when you get

886
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: into this thing where you're gonna get these guys, do

887
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: you want to go and then get into this arms

888
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: race where you go, Okay, we're gonna have three elite receivers.

889
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna have two relite receivers and then some really

890
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: good guys. There's an argument to be made for that. Yeah,

891
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I think in today's NFL you need two really good receivers,

892
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: and at times the best teams, like the Bengals, have

893
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: three really good ones. Looking at the dynamics kind of

894
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: comparing those two Cincinnati Bengals have gone the draft round.

895
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd was drafted by them in the second round.

896
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase was a top ten pick. Te Higgins early

897
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: second round pick. The Chiefs let Tyree Hill go or

898
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: they traded Tyreek Hill. They didn't have that big receiver contracts,

899
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: so they were able to diversify at the receiver spot

900
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: in free agency with jujusmis Schuster, MVS kind of spread

901
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: the wealth around literally and figuratively on the field. The

902
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Bills having that big receiver contract in Stefandiggs makes me

903
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: think they're more likely to go lower level free agent

904
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: at receiver and then draft to get that cheap labor

905
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: into the receiver rooms. So we sit here and we

906
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: talked about this all day every day and at the

907
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: end of the season, it was and even now we

908
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: vacillate between we gotta get the offensive lineback here, we

909
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: ain't got anybody there. We gotta get the safety positions

910
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: set all the way there. But at the end of

911
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: the season, it was like, man, we need weapons, we

912
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: need we got to keep up with these guys. These

913
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: guys are these guys are you know, shooting you know,

914
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: atomic missiles at us and were we got a sharp stick?

915
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: You know? So you kind of forget as the offseason

916
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: goes on, what you felt like right at the end

917
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: of the season. And I think in this case, I

918
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: don't think we should. Recency bias is a thing. I

919
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: think the teams that are doing the best in the league.

920
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: You look at the Rams two years ago, the Chiefs

921
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: this year. They got some firepower, they got some depth

922
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: outside and some weapons for a quarterback that can sling it.

923
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: The Bills got the quarterback and they got one of

924
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: those weapons. And maybe they got Khalil Shakier is going

925
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: to come through, Maybe James Cook is going to come through.

926
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I think you got to keep

927
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: up with those teams. Yeah, And that's not to say

928
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: that they cannot spend at the receiver spot in free agency.

929
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: I do think again going back to Beasley and Brown.

930
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: They like the veteran presence on this team. But again,

931
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Diggs contract sticks out like a sore thumb, and it's

932
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: good they have an elite receiver. A lot of teams

933
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: would love to have Stefan Diggs. Trading or assigning Mekole Hardman,

934
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: who I think is going to get a pretty big

935
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: deal even though he was injured last season, or trading

936
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins, I just don't see it in the cards.

937
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Someone like Paris Campbell, even Robert Woods who's suddenly available,

938
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: I think would make a lot more sense, just fiscally

939
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: with what the Bills have to do with the cap.

940
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: All Right, Teape tasker Chris Tropaso, We're gonna come back

941
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: with Mike Jenetti from spot Track. He's the founder and

942
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: managing editor of spot Track. We're gonna talk to him

943
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: about restructures of what the Bills can do to free

944
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: up some cap money to sign the free agents we've

945
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: been talking about. We're gonna get back to the tweet

946
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: sheet later in the show. This is One Bills Live,

947
00:48:27,520 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: presented by Clyde to Health on Buffalo Bills Radio The

948
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Called Light a Health. Welcome

949
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Christrapasso here, we

950
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: are pleased to be joined now on the line, the

951
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: founder and managing editor of spot track, the website that

952
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: keeps track of um certainly salaries and contracts and guaranteed

953
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: money and all of that sort of thing. One of

954
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: my favorite sites for the NFL. It's really a good site.

955
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of information there that and it's

956
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: fun to just go on and see how it's gonna work. Mike,

957
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. Stephen, Chris, how are you doing today? Thank?

958
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing well. Appreciate you guys. We've been

959
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: talking about the free agency and of course the Bills

960
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: can't really cannot dip their toe into free agency until

961
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: they restructure and do some math with the salary cap.

962
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: What are the obvious things that they need to do

963
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: and what was your what would your suggestion be if

964
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna if they're gonna max it out, how far

965
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: can they go? Yeah, it's great, it's a great question.

966
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: And do they want to max it out? Right? That's

967
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: probably the one b question here. That's something Brandon Bean

968
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: has to fight with, that battle of how how much

969
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: can we push now and give up in a couple

970
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: of years. Here, the obvious one is Josh Allen, you know,

971
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: the most fixed figure on this roster right now, from

972
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: a contract standpoint, from a positional standpoint, you can free

973
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: up twenty one million right there. So so just with

974
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: one simple swift move your cap compliant for twenty twenty three,

975
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: they're about seventeen eighteen over right now. Certainly that's going

976
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: to help get them at least to where they need

977
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: to be to start this process. But let's say they

978
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: go all in, right, Let's say they go Matt Milano,

979
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, Von Miller, Josh Allen, Dion Dodkins. We're talking

980
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: upwards of thirty five forty million with a cost, right.

981
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you were essentially saying, we're we're gonna be

982
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: okay for a few months now, but we're sacrificeeing a

983
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of dead cap, especially if you're

984
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: pushing things down to twenty six twenty seven with void

985
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: years um. But that's how the you know, the the

986
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: contending teams that that like to do this kind of thing.

987
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Or need to do this kind of thing, have to

988
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: operate to stay afloat right now right And so here's

989
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: the thing that the cap is gonna be was two

990
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: twenty four eight this year. Now, I think, and I've

991
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: said this, I think it's going to really spike next

992
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: year because the payoff from COVID year is going to

993
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: be done, The new money TV money's gonna kick in.

994
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: So we saw it go up like what was it

995
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: like sixteen million or something like that this year thereabouts?

996
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Could it go up double that next year? It ken?

997
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Will they allow it is the best? Is probably the

998
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: better question. The NBA had a real problem with this

999
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: when they allowed a big one year balloon to happen.

1000
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: Teams took advantage of it, Teams got lucky because of

1001
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: that one year situation, and it really kind of imbalanced

1002
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: their league for a few seasons. So I think the

1003
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: NFL is aware of that. They understand what kind of

1004
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: juncture that can cause with you know, in rift, it

1005
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: can cause with contending teams versus teams going backwards right now,

1006
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: and they probably keep things about where we were this year.

1007
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: So I'm projecting about two forty about another sixteen million

1008
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: dollars increase, and then they can do that again in

1009
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five because there's more streaming money coming. There's

1010
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: a Black Friday Game getting thrown in there, right, There's

1011
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: just there's always new avenues for this league didn't make revenues,

1012
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: so I think they probably keep things simple and safe.

1013
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: But sixteen million is still a gigantic jump for teams

1014
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: to be able to bank off of. Yeah, Mike, you

1015
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: mentioned about void years, and I think that's an important

1016
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of salary cap jargon or phrase for fans to understand. Fully,

1017
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: as we're kind of here on the eve of free agency,

1018
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: can you explain how void years work, what they mean,

1019
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: how a team like the Bills can utilize that to

1020
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: again maximize their spending ability in free agency. Yeah, it's

1021
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of the holiday season for that term right now,

1022
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: because you know, I wake up every morning and there's

1023
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: nine or ten new cap conversions that have to get processed,

1024
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: which means, you know what we talked about with Josh Allen.

1025
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: They take base salary, they convert into a signing bonus.

1026
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Josh probably gets that in his hand immediately, if not

1027
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: over a couple of payments this summer, and they spread

1028
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: that cap out. Now, you can spread that cap out

1029
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: over a maximum of five years. If the contract doesn't

1030
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: have five more years out or four additional years on it,

1031
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: you can use those void dummy years. And that's the

1032
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: actual term. I'm not just making that up to sound weird.

1033
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: You can add those dummy years to the back end

1034
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: of a contract to allow that that signing bonus cap

1035
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to go over five years. Now, you know, we've got

1036
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: a Roger Staffold situation right now where that void year

1037
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: is sitting on the bill salary cap. And once his

1038
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: contract actually voids, there's a date for all of these

1039
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: and all the contracts that turns into dead cap. It

1040
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: stays with the bills. It doesn't just go away. So

1041
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: again it's a it's a move for now that you

1042
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: have to pay four later, essentially from a cap perspective,

1043
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: and who is what teams have? You know? I was

1044
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: talking about the Chicago Bears yesterday and about how they're

1045
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars under the cap or thereabouts, and

1046
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: if because of the way they account for the minimum spend,

1047
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: the Bears barely qualify. Yeah, and if they don't really

1048
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: spend this year and really next year as well, they're

1049
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the few teams I've ever heard

1050
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: of that didn't spend enough on their players, is that right? Yeah,

1051
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: we never see it. We never see it because the

1052
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: rules are pretty flexible. Right, it's like a four year process.

1053
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: I have to spend, you know, two of those four

1054
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: years eighty nine percent something like that. I don't want

1055
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: to get too nerdy here, but thank god that the

1056
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: NFL has it right, because some of these other leagues

1057
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: don't even have it, Steve, and you see teams go

1058
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: all the way down to a twenty million dollars payroll

1059
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: for a year just to replenish their own pockets. Right,

1060
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: So you're right. The Bears, you know, the Texans, they're

1061
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get away from this one year

1062
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, veteran minimum contracts strike that they've been in

1063
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: for two seasons now, and they're gonna have to spend

1064
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: and they want to. They understand what the situation, they

1065
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: know that the rules are in place, but also they

1066
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: want to win some ballgames and get some seats filled

1067
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: inside those stadiums. So it's something we watch both the

1068
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: top and the bottom ends of things. But you're right,

1069
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: that's a team that is in very good shape right

1070
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: now and probably honestly doesn't want to spend a ton

1071
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: this year. They're probably waiting for next year for a

1072
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of their big moves. So Steve and I talked

1073
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: about a lot of specific free agents, and you, being

1074
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: someone that covers free agency comprehensively, I wanted to ask

1075
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 1: you because it's like Steve was saying, it's hard to

1076
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: pinpoint exactly who the Bills will sign because there's other

1077
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: teams that are you know, according these free agents as

1078
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: well over the next couple of days and then into

1079
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: that illegal tampering period, even though it's a lot of

1080
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: the deals ultimately happened right away during that period. What

1081
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: positions would you say are the deepest in free agency

1082
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: where maybe the Bills miss on their top target, just

1083
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: like it's in the draft, they certainly have targets in

1084
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: free agency. What couple of positions do you think provide

1085
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: the best depth for the Bills to add some maybe

1086
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: more reasonably priced free agents. Uh, To be honest, the

1087
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker you know, and I know Tremaine is

1088
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: the big talk talking point here in Buffalo. There's there's

1089
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: a decent amount of veteran and younger players who aren't

1090
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: going to necessarily go to the top of the market

1091
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: with that off ball linebacker contract. Right tackles for some reason,

1092
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: there's there's five starting right tackles about to hit the

1093
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: open market, and they're gonna they're gonna cash. I mean,

1094
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: we're talking sixteen to nineteen million per year for most

1095
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: of those players. There's a decent amount of interior offensive lineman,

1096
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: although I wouldn't say it's the best year for that,

1097
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: nor will it probably ever be because of the uh,

1098
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: just how important that position has become. And running backs

1099
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: and that got a little bit less, you know, frivolous

1100
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: with the three tag situations for Barkley Pollard and Josh Jacobs.

1101
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: But it's still a nice crop. Maybe eight or nine

1102
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: legitimate starting running backs are going to become available, including

1103
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett come March fifteenth. There give us an idea

1104
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: as well. And I don't want to backtrack here, but

1105
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: about perhaps teams that are looking to maybe trade these

1106
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: guys and get a sign and trade kind of thing.

1107
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: How often does that happen? You know, Like like this

1108
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he's got a complicated contract. He

1109
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: might go to the Jets. The Jets are gonna have

1110
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: to come up with compensation and cash to get him,

1111
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: and while it may be worth it on the field,

1112
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: how does that affect them, particularly given a guy that's

1113
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: almost forty years old. Yeah, cash is the key point here,

1114
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: and obviously they'll be giving up at a draft picker two.

1115
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Packers want to first and maybe something later,

1116
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, in twenty twenty four to go with it.

1117
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: But from a cap perspective, guys, this is not a

1118
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: hard move for them, at least in twenty twenty three.

1119
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: It's only about fifteen point seven million from a cap

1120
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: perspective to bring Aaron Rodgers over. But it's sixty million

1121
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: cash and it's gonna be sixty million cash unless the

1122
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: Packers eat some of that. The the real situation is,

1123
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: not only do they get him for twenty twenty three,

1124
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: are they keeping him longer than that? Is this going

1125
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: to be a Brett fire one and done situation like

1126
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: we saw forever ago? Because if it is, it's forty

1127
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: four million dollars of dead cap in twenty twenty four,

1128
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: so it's literally in all in one year maximum cash payout,

1129
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: and then maybe a maximum cap hit to let him

1130
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: part or retire or whatever's going to happen. So it's

1131
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: a very very dicey situation really for all parties involved. Here.

1132
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: One last question that I had, kind of switching gears

1133
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball ed. Oliver has

1134
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of been a hot topic here in Western New

1135
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: York among Bills fans that if there were to be

1136
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: a player that the Bills could maybe trade away, it

1137
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: would maybe be at Oliver. Explain how that would ultimately

1138
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: materialize with him being on that fifth year option right now. Yeah,

1139
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation. I'm sure the Bills would rather

1140
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: be talking about an extension for him right now, but

1141
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: that just doesn't seem to be on the table based

1142
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: on what we saw in twenty twenty two. So it's

1143
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: a fully guaranteed about eleven million dollars fifth year option

1144
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: for Oliver. There's no release in him. You know. That's

1145
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: that's money and cap owed to him right now. If

1146
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: you can find a trade partner, whether it's for a

1147
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: player for player situation, whether it's for a mid round

1148
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: draft pick, just to get that off your books, you

1149
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: can move it all. You can move all eleven million.

1150
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: You could also retain a few million of that and

1151
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: then move. It's something we've seen with Jadavian Clowney in

1152
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: the past and some other names. So there's options. There's

1153
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: ways to remove this from you from your books if

1154
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: you need to, at least for the most part. Do

1155
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: they want to do that? Is this a position where

1156
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: they should be adding depth? Do they want to take

1157
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: a swing with a major, major player via trader draft.

1158
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of angles here, but my guess is

1159
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: they're exploring all options to move as much of that

1160
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: eleven million off the books as possible right now, so

1161
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: in that trade and certainly just hypothetical now there's no

1162
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: reports of this, which is something that I know from

1163
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: my Twitter feed. People are always saying the Bills should

1164
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: trade at Oliver. Is there any wiggle room there? Could

1165
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: the Bills eat some of that to get a better

1166
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: draft pick or a better player or does it have

1167
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: to be that just full eleven million getting transferred to

1168
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: the new team. No, there's there's a bunch of ways

1169
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: to go with this. So they could turn some of

1170
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: that into as signing bonus, you know, pop on some

1171
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: void years and make it their own caps. Maybe three

1172
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: four million of that to get it down into the

1173
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: eighty seven mark. They could also just keep it and

1174
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: restructure it right and convert it like we talked about

1175
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and add void years and then take

1176
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: on some of that dead cap in twenty twenty four.

1177
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: So there's ways to live with it, there's ways to

1178
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: maneuver it. My guess is that there's a team out

1179
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: there looking for him, but maybe not at the full price.

1180
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: So what you're talking about her Chris is probably where

1181
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: this ends up, in my opinion. And if you're the

1182
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Bills looking at this market, certainly at this point they

1183
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: need the cap space more than they need the player,

1184
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: and you've got to find a partner willing to do that.

1185
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: That's really what we're we're sitting at with all these trades.

1186
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got people, you know, invite We invited

1187
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: people to give us their trade ideas today and we're

1188
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: getting a lot of them in the problem is it's

1189
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: always seems like a one sided trade when you're when

1190
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about this, what kind of draft pick compensation

1191
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: are we talking about for a guy in his fifty

1192
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: year rookie deal who you're going to come in and

1193
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: if you like him, you got to sign him to

1194
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: an extension. There's that, or just getting it's only a

1195
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: one year guaranteed contract until he becomes a free agent,

1196
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: or your franchise him or something like that. So for

1197
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: a guy like Ed Oliver, what kind of draft capital

1198
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: are you looking to get in return? If they take

1199
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: the full eleven million. If they take the full eleven million,

1200
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about a very low draft pick, right, you know,

1201
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: we're seeing a good player. And Chuck Clark moved to

1202
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: the Jets right now for a seventh round pick, and

1203
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: that's only on basically four million dollars, right, So you're

1204
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: talking about at Oliver on eleven million dollars, who's also

1205
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: going to need a contract next year. Like you said,

1206
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: you're talking late draft picks. So taking some of that

1207
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: on as a signing bonus, is you buying a better

1208
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: draft pick. And that's probably something the Bills can entertain

1209
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: here and something we're seeing teams do more and more

1210
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: of because of just how strong that rookie wage scale is.

1211
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Right now, Lamar Jackson, I have to ask you about him.

1212
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: It's it's out out of Aaron Rodgers. The biggest storyline

1213
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's going to shape a lot of

1214
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: what teams do in free agency, which teams go the

1215
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: quarterback direction in the draft? How do you see this

1216
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: ultimately playing out? We haven't really seen a player of

1217
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Jackson's caliber at his age, with the accolades that he's had,

1218
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: become that tag and trade player. We always hear that

1219
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: as a hypothetical that could happen, It usually doesn't. How

1220
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: do you see this ultimately playing out once free agency

1221
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: starts Lamar Jackson sees his true market, Where does this

1222
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: ultimately end up? And how complicated of a move would

1223
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: it be for the Ravens to ultimately trade him Chris

1224
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: If if it becomes a tag and trade, I would

1225
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: I'd be on board as saying it's one of the

1226
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: biggest moves in the history of the NFL. I mean,

1227
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: we just don't see these players get into these stuck

1228
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of situations. Sure, we've seen Dak go down this

1229
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: route with the Cowboys and Kirk Cousins, and I'd put

1230
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: Lamar ahead of both of those names. And if the

1231
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: move is the trade Lamar Jackson right now, this is

1232
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: a really you know, shady way to do it. Let's

1233
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: put it that way because they've they've dodged this contract

1234
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: for so long, and Lamar has stuck to his guns

1235
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: for so long. Here, I think this just rides out

1236
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: as he plays on the tag. Now he's going to

1237
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: hold out as long as humanly possible before he signs

1238
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: this thing. And maybe they have to sweeten that pot

1239
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: with a couple extra million, something they're allowed to do.

1240
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: But I do think this ends up as as somebody

1241
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: telling Lamar Jackson ride this out. Let Jalen Hurt sign,

1242
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Let Joe Burrow sign, Let Justin Herbert sign. Let this

1243
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: thing go into fifty five million a year, two hundred

1244
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: twenty five million guaranteed, which is where this quarterback markets

1245
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: headed in the next six months. Then come back next March,

1246
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, with the second tag situation and now demand

1247
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: over two hundred million, which is something he'll be able

1248
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: to do if he plays that tag out, plays well

1249
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: under a new offensive coordinator, and bets on himself a

1250
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: little bit. And really this is about Lamar's age, right,

1251
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing he's got kind of working

1252
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: in his favor is his youth. That's right, twenty six

1253
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: years old. Again, we just don't see these players with

1254
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: his pedigree, his as in may his kind of talent

1255
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: and skill set get to this situation. So I'd be

1256
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: all forbetting on myself. If you're worried about injury. We've

1257
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: got Dak Prescott's you know, precedents to go off of.

1258
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: He had the gruesome leg injury and got one hundred

1259
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: and sixty million, but the next you know, basically and

1260
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: six months later. So I think we're at a good

1261
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: point where he can leverage this. Now he's gonna have

1262
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: to come off the fully guaranteed stuff. He's gonna have

1263
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: to and the just don't have that in the back

1264
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: of her on. I'm on the side of this, on

1265
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: the side of the Baltimore Ravens. I mean they can

1266
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: look around. Certainly, Deshaun watsonto the contract that Lamar can

1267
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: point to. The Baltimore Ravens can point to the Aaron

1268
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers contract and say, listen, this guy won two MVPs

1269
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: since you did. They never gave him a first round

1270
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: run a wide receiver, and he just signed up for

1271
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million guaranteed and he's forty um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so why you know why? Us?

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean why and plus you know, all well, all

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Speaker 1: the comparisons can be made, but he's won two MVPs

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Speaker 1: since Lamar won his first, and he's forty. But he

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: takes every snap. You're taking two thirds of the snap

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Speaker 1: every season. So they're on both sides of this. You

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: can see where both teams, both the team and Lamar

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01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,479
Speaker 1: have got their heels dug in. No question, the red

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: flags are there. The precedence of Watson's contract being a unicorn,

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: being an anomaly is there until somebody else does it.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's just sitting out there for

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: everybody to look at. I agree with you. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, if I had to rank the teams who

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Speaker 1: would hand out a fully guaranteed contract, you know, multi year,

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Speaker 1: four years or something, the Baltimore Ravens will be last

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Speaker 1: on my list. They'd be dead last. That They just

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: don't operate this way. They never have. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're ever going to in the modern era. So to me,

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: if that is the demand and he doesn't come off

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Speaker 1: that demand, we're talking about Lamar playing somewhere else, all right.

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Speaker 1: I have a good follow up to that, and it

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01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: does kind of relate to the bills. Two quarterbacks that

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01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: are in the same conference of the Bills, Justin Herbert

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow and Mike Brown in Cincinnati. I don't

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: think has a long track record of paying out fully

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01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: guaranteed deals either. I know you have this year's free

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: agency at the forefront of your mind. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert, Let's just say they

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: continue to track in the same direction that they've been

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01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: early in their careers. Are they going to ultimately, say,

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: sometime during the twenty twenty three season or next offseason,

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: say hey, I'm looking at that Watson deal and I

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: want two hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed, Or will

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01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: the league and the ownership kind of push that down

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01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we're not going to start

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: doing this. We're not going to set that precedent that

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: the Browns did last offseason. Well, there's no question that's

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: what this response to Lamar's offer sheet was about. Right,

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: It's about these front offices coming out and saying we're

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: putting our foot down. You know, Lamar's demands to be

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01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: in the Watson camp are unacceptable, and you can be

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01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: on whatever side of the fence you want on that,

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: But will Joe Burrow do that, I don't believe. So.

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: I think he understands, he's reading his room. He understands

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: that the franchise he's with there's going to be plenty

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: of money available for him. I think he's apt to

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: sign that contract as soon as possible so that he

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01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: can stretch this thing out, maybe like a mini Mahomes deal,

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: and keep things from cap friendly for the next two

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: three seasons, to make sure Higgins can stay, to make

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: sure Jamar Chase can stay, and so forth. My guess

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01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: is that he is taking a different approach to this,

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01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: which is this is where I want to be, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure the contract reflects that. That's

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Speaker 1: not what Lamar is saying right now, and I understandably

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: he's in a different camp. He's in a different situation.

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Ravens have utilized his services as

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01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: best as possible. Herbert. Maybe he's in the middle somewhere,

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I would say, because I see a lot of one

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01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: and done scenarios with the Chargers roster right now, Keenan Allen,

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: like Williams, Gerald Leverett, a lot of the defensive players,

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. You know Bos is pretty locked in here.

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01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: Derwin James has a couple of years, but there's a

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: lot of turnovercoming after twenty twenty three. Does Justin Herbert

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: see that as this agent in his ear saying, Hey,

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: maybe we wait a year on this one and see

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: where this franchise is going before we lock ourselves in

1339
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: and maybe be smart about this and let some contracts

1340
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: hit and we can find fifty five million dollars somewhere

1341
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: else if we have to, But maybe not yet. Well,

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 1: certainly if the cap grows, and you're right, and given

1343
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 1: the history of the LA Chargers in the way they've

1344
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: done business and how good their team has been over

1345
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 1: the years or not been over the years, if you're

1346
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, are you are you thinking you're gonna be

1347
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: a Dan Fouts kind of quarterback? Or are you gonna

1348
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: be like a Peyton Manning kind of quarterback? Right, a

1349
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: guy who elevates the whole franchise and takes it to

1350
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl multiple super bowls, wins one of them,

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: and then ends up someplace else. Or is it going

1352
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: to be Dan Fouts where you just never get to

1353
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and never have the kind of career

1354
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: you want and how important that is in the scheme

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: of your finances. Yeah, that's right. I mean, because look,

1356
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: you can say that any player can get out of

1357
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: any contract or any situation they were out right now

1358
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: right the player empowerment era. But it hurts you from

1359
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: a pr standpoint to have to go out and say

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to be here anymore, getting me out

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01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: of here. And I think justin Herbert's aware of that,

1362
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of smart people telling him

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: that right now. If he's got any kind of pause

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: or reservation about the situation that's unfolding over the next

1365
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: three seasons, maybe even four, from a fully guaranteed standpoint,

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: then somebody's probably telling him, right now, let's hold off

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: and let's see where this heads, and then if we

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: have to, we can leverage ourselves out of here in

1369
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: the fifth year option and go from there. But it's

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: fascinating that the power of the quarterback is not going away,

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: and as that cap rises, so is the power of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the money of the quarterback. I keep saying,

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Speaker 1: I have one last question, and then you're so good,

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: Mike that I got to ask you more. Who is

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01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: the kind of surprising free agent that when everyone's refreshing

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01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: their Twitter every five minutes starting Monday, that wow, this

1377
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: guy got that amount of money that we're not really

1378
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: on the radar right now, Like who are the one

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: or two guys that are going to get those surprising

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: big deals in your estimation on Monday. Yeah, that's a

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: great question. There's a lot of them, I think, because

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: it's not really in your face great free agent class,

1383
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: right there's kind of names that we don't know so well.

1384
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: Hitting the top of these lists, you're gonna be able.

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna turn around and say who is that player?

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: Even why does he have twenty million a year? But

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: I think the one locally that we know a little

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: bit more of is Jacoby Myers. I think Jacoby Myers

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: is going to be Capp adjusted Christian Kirk and then

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: something like maybe even in the twenty four million dollars ring,

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: he might get Stephan Diggs contract because he is the clear,

1392
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: proper age, proper production, kind of versatile slot slash outside

1393
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: go route receiver that a lot of these teams need

1394
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: right now, and a lot of teams probably want to

1395
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: bid up the Patriots who desperately want to keep him

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: in time and two. So that's the offensive name I

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: would give you. Defensively speaking, you know, t J. Edwards

1398
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: had a really nice year, and that off ball linebacker

1399
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: market has risen to twenty million per year. Now he's

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: probably gonna cash in unless he wants to take a

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: discount to stay in Philadelphia. And then I mentioned those

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: right tackles, Juwan Taylor, Mike MCDINCHI. They're going upwards of

1403
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: twenty million per year with that Lane Johnson contract and

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: a lot of those right tackle deals. So it's not

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: going to be a sexy list of names, but really

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: help full, good, whole filling names on the free agent

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Speaker 1: list this year. And by the way, when I think

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: about for Buffalo, Ben Powers, guard coming out of Baltimore,

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: who have to sheds in cap space, probably can't afford

1410
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: to keep him. He's in the twelve to fourteen million

1411
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: per year range. He's a really versatile interior offensive linement.

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: About that at the market as well, and as we

1413
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: talk about, this is an ongoing conversation where the money

1414
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: keeps going up, and if you've got a guy in

1415
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: a long term deal, sooner or later the contract becomes

1416
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: almost obsolete or it becomes a bargain for the team

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: if the guy can play. Josh Allen's contract is about

1418
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: a year away from becoming the bargain of the century

1419
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: along with Pat Mahomes. Same thing, although he's going to

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: get a balloon payment in twenty seven, that kind of thing.

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: But the Josh Allen contract, the way you see these

1422
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks going, man oh man, it's looking like a bargain.

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: Total steal. Yeah. Not only is it a steal, not

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: only is it a steal from a cash perspective. And

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying he got a bad contract.

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01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: I think he's very happy with his contracts. He should be.

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: But the ability for the Bills to get out of

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01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: it too, right, if and when they need to in

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: three seasons, it's there, you know, as long as they

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: don't continue to restructure every single year, and they won't,

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: they'll probably stagger their restructures properly. But you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: two names that I would bring up. The Mahomes deal

1433
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: looks better and better every single second. Yes, he's gonna

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: get his cash, and he's waited. He's only made sixty

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: three million over those first three seasons, so he's doe

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: a nice balloon payment here as you mentioned, but you know,

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: the chiefs are gonna love this thing more and more

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: every single year that passes by, because, like I said,

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01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: we're going to fifty two fifty five million maybe in

1440
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks here with some of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Mike Janette, founder and managing editor of spot Track, thanks

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: for coming on with us. Appreciate it, and we'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with you further down the road this offseason. My

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: pleasure guys thinks Steve Tasker, Christopos. So we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break, gonna come back with some more talk about

1446
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: free agency. We're also gonna get into the tweet sheet

1447
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: as well. You had Josh Allen's got a thirty nine

1448
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit this year, and it does it.

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01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, it seems like a bargain. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back more to come One Bills Live from one

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go break back to the tweet sheet. We've

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Speaker 1: asked our listeners what one Bills move you'd like to

1455
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: see this offseason, and one you one move you would

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: dislike this offseason. This one from This is brought to

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. From Pulsar, he says, I'd really

1459
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Speaker 1: like to see the Bills trade for DeAndre Hopkins and

1460
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: then draft be Jean Robinson. You think the old line

1461
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,839
Speaker 1: is something that comes next, but that offense is crazy.

1462
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: I would not want to see the Bills overpay for

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 1: somebody like Derek Henry because there's cheaper and higher value elsewhere. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I think DeAndre Hopkins can really play what you'd have

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: to give up to get him. I don't know. He's

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: got a huge contract, that's a problem. But if you

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01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: could get him to agree and you know, to trade

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: for him and sign sign him to a deal and

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 1: trade for him on a cap friendly number, Yeah, DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins is a really good player. And Bijean Robinson I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with drafting Bijean Robinson if it's in the third round,

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, or maybe even the second round, maybe, depending

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: on who how this free agency period goes. Yeah, they're

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: both really good players, will be It'll be good to

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: have both of them on the roster, but what it

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: costs you is always the question. And if if you

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01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: can get DeAndre Hopkins for a cap friendly number and

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Speaker 1: then Bijean Robinson doesn't cost you the twenty seven pick, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. Yeah, I would just flip that

1480
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 1: that Paul Sar said, I think the old line is

1481
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: something that comes next. I think that comes first. I

1482
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: think you have your quarterback, you have your elite wide receiver,

1483
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: you drafted James Cook whoever it's six yards of carry

1484
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: as a rookie, certainly need to fill out some pieces

1485
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: on the offense. I'm a huge advocate of that. The

1486
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: offensive line needs to be fixed first and foremost that

1487
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: playoff game. Josh Allen was running for his life even

1488
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: the week before against the Miami Dolphins, a good defensive front.

1489
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: He was under pressure a lot. I think doing that

1490
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: first then adding some pieces I think makes a lot

1491
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: more sense. And I think with Hopkins, he wants to

1492
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: be that alpha wide receiver that's getting eight to twelve

1493
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: targets a game. That's not going to be the case

1494
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. It looks good for a fantasy football roster,

1495
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: but financially and just the makeup of this team. I

1496
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know if that's feasible this season for the Bills.

1497
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: Also on the tweet sheet from Dianas, she says or

1498
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: he says, I'd like to see them pick up two

1499
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: or three offensive line guys in the draft and a

1500
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: couple more in free agency. Just had plenty of competition.

1501
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: I would dislike if they fell prey to inherent rumors

1502
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: and trade away Stefan Diggs because he's our best receiver

1503
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: and people are talking about trading him. Makes me mad.

1504
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: That's not happening. They ain't trading Dion. They ain't. They're

1505
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: not trading Stefan Diggs. But yeah, so I agree with

1506
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: you there, and I don't have a problem using draft

1507
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: picks for offensive line guys. It's a great move in Yeah,

1508
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: I think back to twenty nineteen when Brandon Bean brought

1509
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: in Quentin Spain and Daryl Williams and Mitch Morse. He

1510
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: really revamped the offensive line. I think twenty nineteen and

1511
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty when we saw that Josh Allen first initial

1512
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: step and then the big leap that put him into

1513
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: the MVP conversation. He got those MVP votes for the

1514
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: first time in twenty twenty if the offensive line was

1515
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: pretty good, and like I mentioned, Brandon Bean likes to

1516
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: go the veteran route along the offensive line, I would

1517
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: sprinkle in as suggested here, some young players that are

1518
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: like you mentioned Steve cheap labor that you can develop

1519
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: behind maybe a higher priced older free agent guard or

1520
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 1: free agent right tackle to give some competition to Spencer Brown.

1521
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot more prudent of a way

1522
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: to spend your money. Yeah, and this one another one

1523
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: from b Hicks from the tweet sheet Ben Powers. They

1524
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: need an upgrade at guard big time. Bringing another competent receiver.

1525
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: Competent receiver, I would love Burrios, Braxton Burrios and a

1526
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: good outside receiver signing, and just fill the defense of

1527
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: holes with value veterans and focus on improving the offense

1528
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: that gets into the arms race that we were talking

1529
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: about a little earlier. And I get it and I

1530
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: agree with it. You got this guy at quarterback, help

1531
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: him out, give him an offensive line and more weapons.

1532
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: And here's one thing you all. If you've got an

1533
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: offense that can score on everybody, you're always in the game,

1534
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: not so much always in a defensive sense. You can

1535
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: have a defense that's really stouting on it. But if

1536
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: you know something bad happens and they score, then what

1537
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: do you do. You don't have you don't have the

1538
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: horses to catch up. So I'm all about it. I

1539
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: think that's the league we live in now. I think

1540
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: it is a little bit of an arms race, and

1541
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: I think you got to keep up. Yeah. I think

1542
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: that is the best suggestion that we've gotten in that

1543
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: you got to add to the offense, whether it's in

1544
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: free agency of the draft. I think the Bills will

1545
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: do both. I mean, whether it's a first round receiver

1546
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: or a third round guy, or a mid level free

1547
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver or tight end offensive line. I think

1548
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott, especially now taking more of a hands

1549
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: on approach to the defense, the Bills defense is going

1550
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: to be good. Is it going to ever be the

1551
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens. No, but there's really not a two

1552
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: thousand ravens ask defense in today's NFL with the personnel.

1553
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: Without having to spend huge at that position or invest

1554
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: more early round picks, Sean mcdermot's defense will be good

1555
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: enough to win games twenty seven seventeen or thirty one

1556
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: twenty one that's what you're saying. The nature of today's NFL,

1557
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: you're going to give up points, You're going to give

1558
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: up some yards. So after two or three years of

1559
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: allocating a lot of money and early round selections on defense,

1560
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: I think it's time both in free agency and the

1561
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: draft to allocate some of those pieces around Josh Allen.

1562
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm all about keeping up in the arms race. Yeah,

1563
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: And I think defense has changed to a great degree

1564
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Even your offense can be the best

1565
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: run defense on your team because if you're at their

1566
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: scoring and ever, they can't afford to run it yea

1567
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: and shorten the game because you're scoring and they're gonna

1568
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: run out of possessions themselves, so they got to throw it.

1569
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: Even your offense can force your the other team into

1570
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: not running the football and defense, for me, the running

1571
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: game for most teams is secondary. There's a couple of

1572
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: exceptions Baltimore with Lamar Jackson, of course, Derrick Henry and

1573
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Other than that, everybody throws it first, right,

1574
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: So I'm all about keeping up in the arms race

1575
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: in that way. And also, defense is not so much

1576
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: about stopping the run and being stout and doing. It's

1577
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: more about playmaking. That's why even even the way they

1578
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: tackled these days is about getting the ball out, getting

1579
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: a turnover, getting a big sack. It's about rushing the

1580
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: passer and getting turnovers. That's what it's about. It's not

1581
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: about being a stifling, run stuffing defense who forces the

1582
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: quarterback to throw all that stuff. It's about making plays.

1583
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: It's not about being a statistically great defense. A lot

1584
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: of the Bills have in the top five, you could tell,

1585
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: but by the same token, there a lot of times

1586
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: when it's like, man, the statistics look good, but man,

1587
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: my naked eye tells me they need to play better. Yeah.

1588
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: One of my biggest pet peeves in watching the NFL

1589
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: today is when a commentator will say, hey, this is

1590
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: the third best defense in the NFL and they're going

1591
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: by yards per game. Yards don't score points. I mean,

1592
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: the Bills have been good across the board, but they're

1593
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: always near the top of the league in interceptions, enforced fumbles,

1594
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: pressure rate, sacks, those splash plays. That's what you have

1595
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 1: to lean on in today's NFL. The Bills have been

1596
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: kind of ben don't break. During the Sean McDermott era,

1597
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: and it goes back to his Carolina days. They've he

1598
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: knows defense. His defenses are going to be solid even

1599
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: if you don't have again high level, top paid players

1600
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. They have a pretty

1601
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: cheap offensive line to date. They could spend maybe on

1602
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: someone like Ben Powers mid level wide receiver draft, maybe

1603
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: like my favorite guy, Jaden Reid in the third round

1604
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: from Michigan State. Then you can keep up with them

1605
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: like the Bengals or the Chiefs in the playoffs. That's right,

1606
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: And you know so I think we're all You and

1607
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 1: I are kind of on the same page. Your defense

1608
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: is about splash plays these days in the NFL. You

1609
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: can even see it in the way they tackle players

1610
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: and the way they they're built. So I'm with you.

1611
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: I think it's an arms race on offense and on defense.

1612
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: You just need guys that have a nose for the football.

1613
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: From Steve Hugh on the tweet sheet, he likes a

1614
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: trade for Mike Evans or maybe Derrick Henry. He does

1615
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: not like the fact they may resign Jordan Poyer. He

1616
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: may be the first guy I've heard that doesn't like

1617
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: the idea of resigning Jordan Poyer. Certainly you can't sign

1618
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: him to a mega million dollar deal only at his

1619
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: age really, But the other two guys, Mike Evans Derrick Henry,

1620
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: I can get behind both those for the right price.

1621
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Of course, Derrick Henry is interesting to me, and I'm

1622
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: not a big proponent of drafting running backs in the

1623
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: first round at all, or spending money on the running

1624
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: back position with a veteran, especially when your quarterbacks Josh Allen,

1625
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: He's going to be the focal point of your offense.

1626
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: You're going to throw the ball forty plus times a

1627
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: game with Josh Allen sprinkling some Josh Allen runs. The

1628
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry thing does interest me because the Titans have

1629
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: been releasing a lot of players. Robert Woods is available,

1630
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: they released Bud Dupree, Taylor Lawan. They are trying to

1631
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: gut this roster in terms of just freeing up cap space.

1632
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: What we talked about with Mike earlier about maybe the

1633
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: Titans would say, hey, look, we'll eat some of this

1634
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: money if you give us maybe a second or a

1635
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: third round pick for Derrick Henry. And then suddenly I

1636
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: think the one key issue down the stretch was maybe

1637
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: the Bills were leaning on Josh Allen a little bit

1638
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: too much. And Derrick Henry has been the guy in

1639
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee for a long time. Maybe he's not that same

1640
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 1: player that he was in his prime. But like you mentioned, Steve,

1641
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: if the cost was right and you weren't paying him

1642
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, eighteen million dollars a season as a running

1643
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty three, I could get behind it

1644
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But again, signing those superstars at

1645
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: this point, given the Bills makeup, seems a little far fetched. Yeah,

1646
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is a great player, and he probably still

1647
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: has some gas in the tank, and the price has

1648
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: to be right if you're gonna trade for him. Either

1649
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a mid round pick or whatever. Maybe

1650
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: they pick up some of his salary, or maybe you're

1651
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: just gonna wait and see if they release him and

1652
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: restructure him or whatever. But yeah, if the price is right,

1653
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry could help you. I think in Buffalo, even

1654
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: if they got Derrick Henry for you know, next year's

1655
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick, I don't know that the Bill's

1656
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: offensive line would be good enough to help him enough

1657
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: that when they put him on the field. Laid in

1658
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: a game to close it out when they're predictably going

1659
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: to run it. Are they going to be good enough

1660
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: in front of him to help him? And I know

1661
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: that this too. He can't in this league. The one

1662
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: thing that's death is predictability. What I would say with

1663
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to just keep an eye on it. The

1664
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Titans could release him. It seems unfathomable just how legend

1665
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 1: Derry he's been for that team. If they cut him today,

1666
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,520
Speaker 1: they save six million dollars. He's set to make sixteen

1667
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: million dollars this season. They would have a deadcap hit

1668
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: of ten million dollars. But New GM there is doing

1669
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: exactly what Brandon Bean did when he first came here.

1670
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: He traded away Marcel Darius, he traded away Sammy Watkins,

1671
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: took on some deadcap early on. The Bears just did

1672
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: that with Ryan Poles last year. It's not far fetched

1673
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: to see maybe Derrick Henry all of a sudden he's

1674
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: a free agent, and then you can have your own

1675
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: contract talks with him and say, look, we're not going

1676
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: to give you sixteen million dollars up front. That's where

1677
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: it becomes a little bit more interesting. I do think

1678
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: they will still prioritize the offensive line. But you're right, Steve.

1679
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: If it's not better upfront, it doesn't matter if it's

1680
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas back there. The Bills are going to have

1681
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: trouble running the ball, and they do have James Cook,

1682
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: who's young, explosive. It's interesting too because the next tweet

1683
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: we have on the sheet from JT he's on this

1684
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: same path. He says we're not a run team, but

1685
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry would be perfect. He's getting up there in age,

1686
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: so he doesn't need twenty carries a game, which begs

1687
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a lot of carriers. James Cook

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Speaker 1: could take some of that load. And he also likes

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01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, but the nine years will not part with him. Probably,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind bringing in a Michael Thomas or Mike

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Evans wide receiver. Who would you guys want to bring in? Well,

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Mike or Michael Thomas are great moves.

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01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas might be gettable because he's had two straight

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01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: years of injuries and has played barely played, so his

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01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: value is unknown, therefore uncertain. Therefore cheaper you get him

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Speaker 1: for a better number. And that guy and when he's

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01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: health in when he was playing, he's elite. I like

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01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: him better in that respect than Mike Evans, although Mike

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01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: Evans can really play well too, But either one of

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01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: those guys, I'm totally with. Yeah, what's interesting about Michael Thomas.

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: That ties back to what we talked about earlier. The

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Saints are in cap hell, they're like fifty million dollars

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01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: over the cap. And for as much as they seem

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: to be wanting to move forward and be a contender

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01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: by signing Derek Carr, getting rid of someone off the

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: books like Michael Thomas could ultimately be in the card.

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01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: So that Michael Thomas is much more likely than Mike

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: Evans I think at this point, because the Saints do

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: need to kind of make some moves to be kept complaint.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come

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Speaker 1: back and finish things up here on One Bills Live.

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01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: We'll get back. We had Mike Jenettion like to thank

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01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: him tomorrow. We've got some stuff coming on, is what.

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01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more draft tomorrow. We'll

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01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: be back to wrap things up here on One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back for one last

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Speaker 1: segment here before we call it a day. Here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Lives Chief Tasker Chris Trapasso. We've been talking

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Speaker 1: about trade scenarios and one things that people would love

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01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: to see, and there's a lot of trade options people.

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01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: There's always somebody on some other team that people covet

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01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: and are willing to give up something to get there,

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01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: and how they think they'll transform this roster. I think

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01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: when you get down to it, even if they're going

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01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: to trade for a star like Derek Henry or DeAndre Hopkins,

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01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: it comes with its own set of baggage that you

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: got to deal with, not only with the number that

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01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: you gotta pay him and what you gotta give up

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: to get him. But if DeAndre Hopkins comes here, how

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01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: does that affect the targets for Steph Diggs. Now, certainly

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01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: it gives josh Allen Moore options. And because DeAndre Hopkins

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01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: can play, if it's Mike Evans or if it's Michael

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Thomas or you name, you name the receiver, it does

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: change the dynamics. Certainly, it makes you a better football team.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think despite some of the stuff we've

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: heard on social about Steph Diggs in his Twitter account,

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: that's not going to be an issue. I don't think

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01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: I think it is an arms race. I do think

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01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: the Bills have to keep up on the outside with

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01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: skill and ad guys and Evans and it, but you

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01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: gotta protect Josh as well. So they got their their

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01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: play full. Yeah, two wide receivers that when we talked

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01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: about last segment, Michael Thomas, it just looked it up.

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01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: He has a thirty one point seven million dollar roster

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01:27:56,360 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: bonus next year, but it becomes fully gearing on March

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: seventeenth of this year, So the chances that he's a

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01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: member of the Saints in a week are pretty low

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01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: unless they want to pay him thirty two million dollars

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 1: in one season next year. So he could become available,

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01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: and there's guys like that Braxton Barrios Adam feeling just

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01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: came out on my way here that the Vikings are

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01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: probably gonna let him go. That would be someone would

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: be a funny dynamic pairing up again with Stefon Diggs.

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: With now Diggs being that alpha wide receiver. That would

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: be someone well into his thirties that runs good routes

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01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 1: that it would probably be fine with being a number

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01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: two or number three. There's always those guys close to

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01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: free agency that are ultimately released that suddenly the Bills

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 1: could talk to and kind of figure out their own contracts.

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01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: That makes sense for both sides. Well, lots going on.

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01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Chris is gonna be back with us tomorrow. We've got

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Speaker 1: to probably still stamp with the Aaron Rodgers saga and

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: what the Jets are gonna do and where they can

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01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: wrangle a trade with the Green Bay Packers. We're gonna

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01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: talk also to the Buffalo Bill's own Alec White. We're

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01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: gonna have a segment tomorrow. He's gonna come on with

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: us and talk draft. You're gonna watch all the mock

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01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: drafts that are out there, and we'll give you an

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Speaker 1: idea of who people are projecting the Buffalo Bills to

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01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: trade for or not trade for, but to draft in

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01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: the draft. So it'll be interesting to see christ Passo,

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01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker back here tomorrow. And we're gonna also probably

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Speaker 1: have some other stuff. Going to have a topic for

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: you on Twitter. Stay with us, Steve Tasker, christ Passo

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01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow. That's it. I mean, it's a long day, bro. Yeah,

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01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping this seat warm for Brown. There you go,

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Speaker 1: all right. We'll talk to you tomorrow at one