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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Gradios How Stuff Works. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. My name is Met, my name is Noah.

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Speaker 1: We're joined as not usual by our super producer, Casey Pagraham.

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Speaker 1: Um also not usual. Ben is not here. There's a

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Speaker 1: there's the you know, the unusual bend shaped whole in

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Speaker 1: time space that is here, but at last he is elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Uh you are you right? Yeah? And you're here and

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Speaker 1: you're here. Man, it's so hard with that van uh

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Speaker 1: that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Did I do? Okay? You did great? Did

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Speaker 1: be so proud of you. A special listener mail addish,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what this is. Oh ma, Now let's am

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Speaker 1: I listen to voicemail. We're taking a step further. That's right.

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Speaker 1: As an audio component, we had to step it up

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Speaker 1: to voicemail. It's it's so much more fun to hear

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Speaker 1: you talking with us rather than us reading in your voice.

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Speaker 1: Essentially from an email exactly. Uh, we we we prefer this.

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Speaker 1: And just to remind you, this is what our outgoing

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Speaker 1: You've reached stuff they don't want you to know. You

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Speaker 1: And this is what happens, uh when you know maybe

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Speaker 1: unknow the stuff they don't want you to know. That's

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Speaker 1: that's why. It's the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And today we're going to be looking at

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Speaker 1: some serious suggestions for episodes that we may cover in

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Speaker 1: the few Sure, we're going to be looking at just

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Speaker 1: some strange occurrences that happened on the voicemail system, some

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Speaker 1: lighter fair some stuff on the wacky air more comedic side.

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Speaker 1: the rest of them than the conspiracy space. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely my favorite a little bit of light, light,

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Speaker 1: stuff that you're working on outside of the show, Matt,

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Speaker 1: not to peep behind the curtain too far, but you're

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Speaker 1: And you guys are my counseling, So thank you. Keep

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Speaker 1: one of those counseling sessions from Sean. Hey there, my

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Speaker 1: could do research into a religion called the Bohigh Face. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was brought up in it and I've fully been

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Speaker 1: it on the news really at all. It seems like

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00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a buried lead. But how do

429
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: you even talk about it? Well, it's just depressing and

430
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: it literally says that within forty years the planet could

431
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: become uninhabitable because of this. Not being alarmists here, that's

432
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: just what the climate scientists are saying in the research

433
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: behind this. Also, this is something I'd like to do

434
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Speaker 1: an episode on. Apparently Exxon Mobile knew about this in

435
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: nineteen four They had a study out where they knew

436
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: that the amount of c O two in the atmosphere

437
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: over time would be this bad by now, and they

438
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: did nothing to stop him. Short game, That's what I'm saying.

439
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: That's my point, though it should be a long game.

440
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: The idea that the the argument is, Oh, it doesn't

441
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: make sense in the short term for us to make money,

442
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: but shouldn't the proposition really be, well, let's maybe lose

443
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Speaker 1: a little money in the short term for a long

444
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: term benefit. And that's what you're saying, and I completely agree.

445
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: But that's not how business works, is it, right? Yeah, exactly,

446
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: And it's really depressing. And it's been this way since

447
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: two thousand seven when I first learned about this technology

448
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Strickland, who wrote an article and also works

449
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: about this, and then Ben and I got to go

450
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: interview the guy. Um and I haven't seen anything really

451
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: any big news story about plasma conversion technology since then.

452
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: So it's all good, or as Ben would say, everything

453
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: is terrible and we're all gonna die, you know, it's

454
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's that maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle,

455
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: and uh, I believe the children are our future. Yeah,

456
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: well yeah, thank you anonymous person, whoever you are, for

457
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: writing into us. That's a cool topic and maybe we

458
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: can talk about it more in the future. It might

459
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: be worth digging into and I don't know, attacking with

460
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: some plasma Let's let's attack this with some plasma torches. Okay, Now,

461
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: let's move on to the next one. This message. I'm

462
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: not sure what happened with our phone lines, but we

463
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: seem to intercept a conversation that we weren't supposed to.

464
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Beasley Food Enterprise. How can I help you?

465
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: How can I direct your call up? Looking? No, sir, sir, Hello,

466
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying. Do you

467
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: speak English? Okay? No, I'm sorry, I don't speak in Okium.

468
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. How can I drink your

469
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: calls or um? No, I'm sorry. Mr Lightbringer is not

470
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: in the office today, Can I take a message? Uh,

471
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: Mr Paymon, and you're from Long Pig Industries. Okay, and

472
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: this is regarding oh it's our meat supply. Okay, um, okay,

473
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: I will let him know. Did you I'm sorry? Was

474
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Speaker 1: there something else? Global Illumination Unlimited? I'm sorry there are

475
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: sister company? Should I I can redirect you? I can? Yeah,

476
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: hold on a second, please hold thank you. Well, like

477
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I said, that conversation, I don't think was meant for

478
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: our years and my ears actually, when they say your

479
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: ears are burning, my ears actually started burning. They started

480
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: getting really hot. I started smelling sulfur, and uh, it

481
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: was a very strange experience. In fact, the speaker on

482
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: the phone when I picked it up and we listened

483
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: to it on speaker phone kind of black goose started

484
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: oozing out of it too. Yeah. Yeah, it was a

485
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: real problem. No, now that I think about it, I

486
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: did it on my laptop and I think it really

487
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: might have messed up my keyboard, like I've have been

488
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: having problems with it ever since. It's really sticky and

489
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: oh man, well, all I know is that Long Pig Industries.

490
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: And did you hear Illumination Global and Limited? Yeah? Yeah,

491
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about them in a while. I thought

492
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: they kind of bailed on us. But I guess they're

493
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: always kind of around the corner, aren't they. I guess

494
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: they are. Oh, that's okay, let's maybe the best thing

495
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: to do is just to move on that. Yeah, that

496
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: was too disturbing. It never happened. Okay, let's let's go

497
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: to Brandon. Brandon, what do you got for us? Hey,

498
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: Matt ben Noel and super producer Paul long story shirt.

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: I've worked at cell phone companies corporate locations for about

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00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: the past five years up until recently, and there is

501
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that they don't want you to

502
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: know in the cell phone industry. And after listening to

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00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: some of your shows for the past six years that

504
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: you guys have made, I haven't really seen too many

505
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: shows on the cell phone industry in general. So I

506
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to be a personal source of information if

507
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: you guys ever did think about making a show like that.

508
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: I used to work at Verizon Corporate from two thousand

509
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: and thirteen to two thousand and sixteen, and then after

510
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: that I transferred to a place called US Cellular, which

511
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: is a regional cellphone carrier from two thousand and six

512
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: to two thousand and eighteen. So yeah, I definitely have

513
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: a handle on sales practices, techniques, scandal and if you

514
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: guys had any one day, any information on that, I

515
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: would be more than happy to give that to you guys. Okay,

516
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: So these these little devices we've all got here, it

517
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: seems like there may be more something behind them and

518
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: as a podcast. But Matt just picked up his little

519
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: device and he's holding it right next to his face. Yeah,

520
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I really am running it gently, lovingly, and some of

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00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: that radiation out of this baby, I'm interested to know.

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00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm assuming A lot of things that

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00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: this person would be talking about our um, like how

524
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: much a phone costs, how much, like how these companies

525
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: make their money back, um, perhaps the the manufacturing process.

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00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the cell phone in story

527
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: doesn't want me to know, besides the fact that text

528
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: messaging should not cost anything or much at all because

529
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: of how little stuff is actually uh transmitted, unless, of course,

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00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: you're sending gifts and videos and all those things via

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00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: text messaging, then it's a lot of data. What do

532
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: um I send constant gifts everybody I've I've seen it.

533
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm a Giffer win one for the Giffer that's me.

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00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: You know, you also do this is cool that we

535
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: can talk about. You also do a thing that not

536
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of my other friends do, and you will

537
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: put ideas like a single idea, and then send and

538
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: then like almost like sentence structure with sending, so that

539
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: when you're talking to me, I get all of the

540
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: thoughts broken up, which is actually a lot easier than

541
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier for me to read and to understand.

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00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I end up typing out a paragraph or two before

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00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: I send a text. Generally, when it's small print like that,

544
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to like get the need of it one glance,

545
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: you know. Alright, cool? Well, I thought I was annoying

546
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: because they like those. I feel like I'm blown up

547
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: people's phones. But I do try to make them little

548
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: text nuggets, you know. I think it's a factor. I

549
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe just because I haven't been as immersed

550
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: in a lot of the social networking, a lot of

551
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: the ways of communication with other people via this little phone. Um,

552
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: but it's more appealing. I would just have to say that,

553
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: And also good work. I'm gonna try and start incorporating

554
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: that into my life a little more. Hey, let us

555
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: know what you think. How do you text? Is it

556
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff and emojis all in one big

557
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: block or do you get your points across uh succinctively

558
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: in like single thoughts basically, but maybe a whole series

559
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: of them. Hey, how do you use your phone? And

560
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: what do you think they don't want you to know about,

561
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: either how you're using it or why you've even got

562
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: one in the first place. Let's find out more of

563
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to know about phones.

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling in, And with that,

565
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break in here from a sponsor.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, we are back, and let's go ahead and

567
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Speaker 1: get started with a message from Patrick. Hi. I'm Patrick Keenan.

568
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: As you can tell, I'm an excellent musician, but I'm

569
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: also a big fan of stuff they don't want you

570
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: to know. And I was listening to the Finders episode.

571
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: In the Finder's episode, during a very brief side conversation,

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00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I would say you alluded to the fact that, you know,

573
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe a Mr Ted Cruz could be possible for the

574
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: second iteration of Zodiac murders. As in being the second

575
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: iteration of the Zodiac Killer. I fully support this, uh,

576
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: this this theory and and in fact I would say

577
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: that you guys have been dealing in finer, finer detail,

578
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: and so I think sometimes you missed a larger picture.

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00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: It's clear to me that Mr Ted Cruz has left

580
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: through time, as you say, but not not in the

581
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: same way that you think he did. What he had

582
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: was connections obviously his father being the true assassin of

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00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy. Everybody's records had to be changed, and

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00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: it just so happened that Ted Cruise became born in

585
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: vent when he was in fact born four years earlier,

586
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: So that would put him at five years old when

587
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: he was apprenticing under the previous Vodia Killer. And a

588
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know this, but the previous Vodio

589
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Act Killer was one of the victims that was passing

590
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the torch onto Ted Cruz. And of course Ted Cruise

591
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: has become a lot more healed and probably a better

592
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: person than I'm changing him to be. You have permission

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00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: to use every second of this audio. Thank you, goodbye.

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00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Every second, well, every second of that audio was a

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00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: pure joy. Um. Yeah, I don't know about all that.

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00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Well, okay, so I'm trying to remember

597
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: our conversation. I know we talked about that, like babies

598
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: sitting on each other's shoulders wearing a suit. He was

599
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: he was a baby or know what it was he was.

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: It would have been a baby, yeah, because the first

601
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: murders occurred before he was born, so then he was

602
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: some weird in utero things. Sure, God, I can't even

603
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: He had to recruit some of his baby buds to like,

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00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, do the whole shoulder thing posing as a

605
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: as a as an adult serial killer. Um. And then

606
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: they have to figure out how to get the weird

607
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: bag mask on and like, you know, how to wield

608
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: up bowie knife. And I mean there's a lot going

609
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: into this equation here, Matt, you're the zodiac expert in

610
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: case people don't know, what do you think about this theory? Well,

611
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I like, I mean, I like Pastor, who, by the way,

612
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: is but you can tell by the first second of

613
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: that tape a fantastic musician. He his idea that perhaps

614
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz was that chopsticks. It's not chopsticks, it's it's

615
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the other one. You learn you learned chopsticks, so then

616
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: you learn that one that's the one you can play

617
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: with your knuckles. That's just on the black keys. That's

618
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: it really really great band. But this idea that a

619
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: five year old Ted Cruz, whose whose date of birth

620
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: was changed because of his father's involvement with the assassination

621
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: of jfk uh as a five year old was apprenticing

622
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: under the original Zodiac Killer then became the second iteration

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: of the Zodiac Killer. I just I want Patrick, I

624
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: want you to write a comic or a novel of

625
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: some sort and then get back to us, because I

626
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: think you should expand on this idea and I'm on board.

627
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: That's all. I'll just say, thank you so much for

628
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: for listening and for sending us that awesome message. Alright,

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00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: let's listen find the next one, Okay. Now, this message

630
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: comes from a gentleman that we're going to refer to

631
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: as Herman, and it's a bit long. There are three

632
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: messages that he left that all build on each other,

633
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: and her Herman. Herman is he's got a fascinating job

634
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and he's calling us to comment on our who will

635
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: control the Arctic episode? Yeah, it's sort of about sovereignty. Right, Yes,

636
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: so let's just go ahead and listen to that. His

637
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: voice will be changed to protect the innocent. That's right. Hi, guys,

638
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm calling in regards to the Who Controls the North

639
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Pole episode. Um, I've I've listened to it a few

640
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: days ago. I've been humming haunt about calling. But I've

641
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: been a fan of the show for a long time,

642
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: so I figured i'd give you guys a quick chime.

643
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: This is gonna have to be a two parter. I've

644
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: already tried twice to fit it into three minutes. That

645
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: just doesn't work. Um. I'm a member of the Royal

646
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Canadian Mounts to Police in Canada, and uh, if you

647
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: guys didn't know, which I'm sure you do, but still uh.

648
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: The RCMP is responsible for a lot of policing duties,

649
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: including federal investigations in Canada, but also doing regular policing

650
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: duties in the northern territories where we have all of

651
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: our North poler Arctic Circle uh land, such as uh

652
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: staffin Island, Elsmere Island and so on. So the storm

653
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you is not from me, but it's

654
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: from a very good friend and colleague of mine where

655
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: he used to work as as a regular patrol officer

656
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: up in Nutabout, which is one of the territories on

657
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: one of those northern islands. Well, one morning in the summer,

658
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: when the ice had thought um he uh, he came

659
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: to uh. He came across uh two men that had

660
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: come ashore on the shore of the island. Now, this

661
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: is unusual in many ways. First off, this is a

662
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: very very remote and small community. We're talking about maybe

663
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: a hundred of people on the entire island. Um. It's

664
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: it's what we call a fly in uh community, which

665
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: means that there are obviously no roads, but uh the

666
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: quickest and easiest way it is just a fly in there.

667
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: But it's about a two days boat, right if if

668
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: you want to do it uh through water. Um, So

669
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: this is very unusual. It's also very unusual because the

670
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: two guys are neither annually or uh locals. So most

671
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: white people that are up there work for the government

672
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: and are on our rotation. It's it's just the way

673
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: it is. And so he goes to them. They're not

674
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: in a makeshift raft, but not a very big boat.

675
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: He described it to me as being a little more

676
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: than covered up a row boats and again this just

677
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: acid the unusual because we're talking about basically open Arctic ocean.

678
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: So he walks up to them, thinking that they're in

679
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: distress or something, but again, you know, kind of puzzled

680
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: about what's going on. So the two guys, he goes

681
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: up to them and he says, well, do you guys

682
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: needs helping at fort their things? No, no no, no, we're good.

683
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: We're good. And obviously this is too odd. So he's like, no, no,

684
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: this is okay, something's up. So he starts drilling them,

685
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on. And so eventually

686
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: they say, well, we're we're we got lost fishing and

687
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: we're just taking a break. And so he's like, but

688
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: there's no fishing here. This is this is open ocean,

689
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: and and there is no fishing really up there on

690
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: account of the ice and whatnot. A lot of seal

691
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: and whale hunting, but no fishing. So this is extremely suspicious.

692
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: But you know, he's got no real grounds to arrest

693
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: them or anything like that. They're just very strange. He

694
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: also notices that they have a heavy Russian accent. So

695
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: my friend, being a very clever guy, and I say this,

696
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think every word of it. He's a

697
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: very intelligent individual, very good investigator. He starts drilling them

698
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: and at first they really don't want to give up

699
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: any kind of information as like that. But eventually you

700
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: get to a point where they finally admit being Russian nationals,

701
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: and their official reason for being there was that the

702
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: decided to go on an exploration of the Arctic well

703
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: again in little more than a covered rowboat. Might I say, so,

704
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: you know, odd at best, but this became kind of

705
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: a like a known issue if you, if you will,

706
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: where we the r KMP in the Canadian military are

707
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: well aware that Russian nationals and Russian expeditions not all unofficial,

708
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: mind you, but Russian expeditions do on a fairly regular

709
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: basis come ashore in the northern Islands of Canada, and

710
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: our best guests on why they do this is because

711
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: they want to make sure that we're still asserting sovereignty

712
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: on this land. They probably we're hoping that by coming

713
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: ashore on an uninhabited island, they could challenge the fact

714
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: that it was actually Canadian, because you know what what

715
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: defined sovereignty on on on on land. So yeah, I

716
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: made this story very very short. Uh. There's a few

717
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: more details, but basically that's the gist of it. Uh.

718
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: And and again, this is a fairly common occurrence, at

719
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: least more frequent than what would think. So yeah, the

720
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: Russian government has always denied any implication in this. I'm

721
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: not thinking it happens like every week. Um, but again,

722
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: it happens more frequently than you would believe. And um, yeah,

723
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a very very valid argument. Uh. And

724
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I thought that your research was actually really on point

725
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: as far as the Arctic circle game that's going on

726
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: in Russia and China's claims to it. All right, well

727
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: there you have it. Story from herman. What did your

728
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: take on that? Man, I'm fascinated by this. I really

729
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: am sad that Ben is not here because I think

730
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: he would expound on this a lot, just this concept

731
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: of testing whether or not sovereignty is still being enforced

732
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: in a place like the Arctic. When we we literally

733
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: talked about that on the show. And and this is

734
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: a gentleman who works in law enforcement up there who

735
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: was stating that, yes, that very thing is happening between

736
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Canada and Russia right now. It's interesting This isn't quite

737
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the same thing as sovereignty, but it sort of is

738
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: sort of more states, right, it's been And I did

739
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: an episode on Ridiculous History the other day about this

740
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: weird conflict between Ohio and Michigan over a strip of

741
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: land because of the way the borders were drawn inaccurately,

742
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: because the maps at the time weren't right. Um, there

743
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: became this little strip of land where Toledo was that

744
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: was up for grabs or up for debate as to

745
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: who owned it, as to which which state it belonged to,

746
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: and they ended up doing something where one state just

747
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: decided to set up a militia and start like going

748
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: about it as though they owned it. And it's that

749
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of pushing the buttons and testing to see, you know,

750
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: who is gonna flex and like st you're gonna stop

751
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: us exactly, anyone's gonna come along and do something about it.

752
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: And obviously it's this guy's part of the Royal Mountain

753
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: Police to to do something about it, right and to

754
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: exercise their sovereignty. Well, yeah, it's part of his job.

755
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: It seems like in some of the people, the other

756
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: people he was mentioning in the message, Man and what

757
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: a job too, just like going around in a boat

758
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: in the Arctic or a ship in the Arctic and uh,

759
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: testing those waters or just making sure that sovereignty is

760
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: being enforced. Hey, you're not supposed to be here. Yeah,

761
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: out of here your Russians. Oh really you're fishing? Huh. Okay,

762
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: well we're just I'm gonna hang out while you guys

763
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: finish up. Okay, what's what's the what's the potential like

764
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: wrongdoing there? Can you can you explain that to me?

765
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: My only potential wrong doing? My only thought, and again

766
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: I really wish Ben was here, is that you could

767
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: set up some kind of small facility or outpost on

768
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: an island like that or a small area that isn't

769
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: very populated if you were trying to do that for

770
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: one reason or another, or maybe even some kind of

771
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: underwater thing. I don't know exactly what it would be.

772
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I can't really envision it, but I'm sure I'm sure

773
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: there are a lot of uses for it, especially when

774
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about oil rig drilling, um and probably military

775
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: for military uses. Do you think that's what was happening here?

776
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know what, maybe we should

777
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: try and get Herman to reach back out to us.

778
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: We could do a whole episode on it. Yeah, I

779
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: mean nice, actually have a little back and forth instead

780
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: of just hearing the kind of condensed version of the story. Right, yeah, exactly. Um, okay, well,

781
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: thanks Herman. Get back at us with a burner phone

782
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: or wherever however else you want to contact us. We's

783
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: that something up and we'll give you I think we

784
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: did already in the magic of post gave you kind

785
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: of a voice disguise, right, Yeah, that's right, that's right. Okay,

786
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: let's get back to the next the next message. Now,

787
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: this one just I'm gonna put this out there. I

788
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of research on this topic yet.

789
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: I remember hearing about it back in the day and

790
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: collecting a bunch of links, but I haven't I haven't

791
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: connected anything together to talk about on this episode. This

792
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: what you're about to hear is essentially a preview of

793
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: a show that I think we should do in the

794
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: near future. Ahi, guys. I was just listening back to

795
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: an older episode about the sonic weapons on the Cuba

796
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: and the lad device, um, something that was kind of

797
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: listening to one day, and while I was kind of cute.

798
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: Onto was the documentary about a movie that was to

799
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: be made called Gray State. Um, this movie that man

800
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: never was made because the producer of the filmmaker was

801
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: in a family were killed in a suicide type of

802
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: homicide situation. Um, it was very tragic. But in the

803
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: documentary regarding the film and it was the family and such,

804
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: they have some clips that they pulled off of a

805
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: blog site that freaked me out a little bit, just

806
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: because in these clips these people were clearly experiencing hallucinations

807
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: of sorts and reclusion and depression, all kind of at

808
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: the snap of the finker, it seems, and we're freaking

809
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: me out about this was because exposure to UM, a

810
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: high volume of extremely low destible sounds for a long

811
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: period of time causes these exact things. So it was

812
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: the chance that that device could be used on a

813
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: personal situation like that. Anyway, then thanks, but okay, thank

814
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: you for calling in anonymous person. The topic you're talking

815
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: about here, the movie called Gray State that was going

816
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: to be created by and directed by and I believe

817
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: even to a to a portion edited by a man

818
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: named David Crowley. It was it was in two thousand

819
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: and ten. I believe when when David Crowley was actually

820
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: working on this film, and recently in twenty seventeen, there

821
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: was a documentary about the the creation of that movie,

822
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: or the guess the failed creation of that movie, called

823
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: a Gray State came out and it looks fascinating. I

824
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: have not watched the entire documentary yet, but he's he's correct.

825
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Our caller is correct in saying that David Crowley and

826
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: his entire family were We're all killed in what appears

827
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: to be, at least officially UM a series of homicides

828
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: and then a suicide, with David Crowley UM being the

829
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: person who took his own life after killing his family.

830
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of controversy about this occurrence, this

831
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: tragedy that happened to David and his family because of

832
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: the nature of the subjects that are looked at in

833
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: the movie Gray State that he was working on, essentially

834
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: UM about how the United States was going to be

835
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: controlled by a paramilitary force or you know, an ultra

836
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: military force that of just tyranny, essentially UM, and he

837
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: wanted to warn people that that was coming, and and

838
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: that's what the whole movie was about. So anyway, I

839
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: think we should do an entire an entire episode on this.

840
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: By the way, Werner Hertzog was an executive producer on

841
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: A Great State That documentary. All Um, I thought that

842
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: was interesting. Yeah, I really think this is something I

843
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: need to look more into. And if Herzog has to

844
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: do with the film, um, he is a master documentary

845
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: and in addition to being a master narrative filmmaker and

846
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: usually has really interesting topics that he believes in. So

847
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean there must be something here, especially for a

848
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: man to take such extreme action. Um. You know, not

849
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: to say that there's definitely a government cover up, but

850
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, it could just be a story

851
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Speaker 1: of someone's mental health deteriorating. Again, I haven't seen the

852
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Speaker 1: whole thing, but we're gonna look into it and hopefully

853
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: you can too, and then will learn more together in

854
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: an episode in the future. So thanks for calling in. Uh,

855
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: this is the last one. We gotta get out of here. Guys.

856
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that our time is running out here in

857
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Speaker 1: the studio. Let's do this last last one from Mario

858
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Speaker 1: and his family. Hey, it's Mario, my son and I

859
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Speaker 1: were just listening to the cell phones five G cancer

860
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: episode and at eight minutes and five seconds and there's

861
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: an interesting uh the thing that no you day, he said, KOEI,

862
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: so we're just when we went that, man, we played

863
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again and just thought

864
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: it was so funny. Anyways, just had to share, all right, calculator,

865
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Speaker 1: that little stab at listen. I am so glad to

866
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: be such a non ending social amusement for all you

867
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: out there in podcast land. Um. Yeah, that's my secret

868
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: code word that I'm just like dropping in conversation just

869
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: to try to like mind control people. That's that's what

870
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Yank is. Well, why don't we listen back to a

871
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: clip of the episode and see see what it actually so,

872
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: I have no recollection of saying this. I got to

873
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: hear this. Okay, here goes. But these have maybe looked

874
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: like those crazy backpack phones you see in uh in

875
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: some war films. Not nearly as advanced at that point,

876
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: but it would still being quite bulky. Probably. Yeah, yeah,

877
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I needed huge antennas, right Okay, wait yoi YOI yeah,

878
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: it's some sort it's like a sasquatch. Uh. It just

879
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: sounds like you're starting thought and then you switched gears. Yeah,

880
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: as my landlord just pointed out to me the other day.

881
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: I talk very fast. I think very fast. That sounds

882
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: like I'm giving myself a compliment. But sometimes my mouth

883
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: and my brain do not align, and I need to

884
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: walk it back real quick, and sometimes I do it

885
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: in the form of a YOI. I like it. I

886
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: can hear it one more time, please, Just just the

887
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Speaker 1: part you see in U in some war films, not

888
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: nearly as advanced at that point, but they would still

889
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: be quite a yoi AOI. All right, that's a new

890
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: part of our vocabulary. Everyone a YOI and ahoy Matee's

891
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: podcast Matie's a YOI and ahoy. I'm gonna go on

892
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: a shirt. We play the other one though, there's a

893
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: nice one about me. Oh, there is a really nice

894
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: one about you know. I like this one made me

895
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: feel good and and I'm I'm nothing if not vain,

896
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: so I want to I love to end the show

897
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: on this note. Hey guys, uh, I don't know. I

898
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: accidentally hung up when instead of pressing three, so I

899
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know if you got the last one. It's okay,

900
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: not really that a big deal. And I just actually

901
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: watched one of your YouTube videos and you know how

902
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: you when you just listen to something or you read

903
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: a book, you kind of visualize the characters of the people.

904
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, Matt and Ben kinda kind of

905
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: look like what I what I thought to you, how

906
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: I pictured you in my head? But no, I always

907
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: pictured you as an Alec Baldwin type character. Uh one

908
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: part cast you mentioned you were divorced and you already

909
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: had a kid that was six or something at this time.

910
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: It's like a little seven year old kid or whatever,

911
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: and it just made me think you're older in the

912
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: vocal fry, I think added to the whole Alex Baldwin thing.

913
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't know you're you're a handsome Hygrid type dude.

914
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: So I got the wrong impression I used, Uh, yeah,

915
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Well, um, you see, as it

916
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: turns out, I actually am Alec Baldwin. And that's really

917
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: the stuff that we don't. You want you to know.

918
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: I don't understand it's Alec Baldwin talking to me, but

919
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a handsome Hagrid type. He didn't say,

920
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: did you say Hagrid? Yeah, he said a handsome Hagrid.

921
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I thought he said handsome hybrid. Oh that's not a compliment.

922
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care for that one bit, like

923
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: reptilian hybrid, like I was sort of like an Alec Baldwin. Oh,

924
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I was like a company. Okay,

925
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: handsome Hagrid? Is that or not handsome or haggard? I

926
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: don't know what he's saying, he said. He's saying, hagrid.

927
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: I think now you know what and now coming back

928
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: into my normal voice, and I'm upset about this. He

929
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: said handsome, He called you handsome. You know, it implies

930
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: that I'm like some sort of weird gigant or or

931
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: something like that. What are you talking about he's saying.

932
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: He's saying, your beard is fantastic. Okay, and you're younger.

933
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: You're a younger man than he envisioned. That's fair. Well, yeah,

934
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: they have lived a rough life, right, hence the vocal

935
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: fry and the and the child and the divorce. Yeah,

936
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: I'll do my best, though. I know that's funny, it's true,

937
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: and I understand that like kind of like disconnect between

938
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: what you hear and what's your eyes behold, especially when

939
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: there's a time that goes by and you've made this

940
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: mental image of the person Josh and Chuck from stuff

941
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: you should know always joke about how people get them

942
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: flipped in their minds, and that's that's very true. But yeah,

943
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: it's me, This is me, um and you are you

944
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: still has been stuff they don't want you to know.

945
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: The bend shaped vortex is starting to pull us in

946
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: to the abyss. I feel like he's summoning us to

947
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: where he is on whatever astral plane he's currently occupying.

948
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: So it's really better we better, we better allow ourselves

949
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: to be pulled into his his his maelstrom. For some reason,

950
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting a hangering for some chips, like some

951
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: some I don't know, classic style chips, like with the dips, Yeah,

952
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: with the dips. I think he's isn't he more of

953
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: like you know? He likes the sour cream and onion, Yeah,

954
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: I can. I can see that, and maybe some pizza

955
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: you feel in pizza, And he likes the pizzerias, the

956
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: pizza chips vintage I've seen. They're hard to come by.

957
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: But if anyone, well, of course he does. If anyone

958
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: knows where to find pizzeria chips, it's Ben Bowling. He's

959
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: got that bag that he can just reach into and

960
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: then stuff appears. It's true. Yeah, that's like I said,

961
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Ben can Ben is a bit of a space folder.

962
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: He can he can make things happen. Um. But he

963
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: will be returning to us very soon, and we will

964
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: be returning to you very soon. In the meantime, if

965
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: you want to hit us up on the social media,

966
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: you can do so. We are conspiracy stuff show I

967
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: think right on his on Instagram. That's the one. Uh.

968
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: If you want to hit me up on Instagram, feel

969
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: like compelled to do so and see me and all

970
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: my handsome hagrid activities, you know, hanging out with Harry

971
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: and the boys and and Hermione and you're having adventures. Um,

972
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: you can do that. I'm at embryonic Insider. Um, Matt,

973
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: what's here is? Yeah, if you want to see, oh gosh,

974
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: like pictures and videos and like sweet memes and stuff

975
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: of me and my son playing lightsabers all day long. Uh,

976
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: don't follow me because you won't see those pictures because

977
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't have a thing. No, Matt keeps that stuff

978
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: very close to the vest, understandably. So the Internet is

979
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: a hive of scum and villany, of course it is.

980
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: But it's also you know what, Like anything else, it's

981
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: also a hive of delight. It's all about which corners

982
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: of the Internet you traverse. Um. You can join our

983
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: Facebook group where we are Here's where it gets crazy. Uh,

984
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: that's a lot of cool. You know, maybe not pictures

985
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: of kids playing lightsaber, but there's definitely memes. Some of

986
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: them may be vaguely Star Wars themes. You never know. Uh.

987
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: You can also do the Twitter where I think we

988
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: are also a conspiracy stuff show if I'm not mistif

989
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: just conspiracy, so just conspiracy stuff. Obviously I am not

990
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: a tweeter. And if you want to be like all

991
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: the people you've heard on the show today, all of

992
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: our your fellow listeners, just to give us a call,

993
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: we are one eight three three st d w y

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Speaker 1: t K. And if you don't want to do any

995
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: of that stuff, you don't want to do any of it,

996
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Speaker 1: you don't like to use the phone, you don't want

997
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: to go on Facebook, you don't trust the twitters or

998
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: the Instagrams or whatever, and you just want to use

999
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: a relatively antiquated but still useful form of Internet communicaory

1000
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: you can do so where we are Conspiracy at i

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