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Speaker 1: It feels like such a natural watch to watch happened?

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Speaker 2: And if it was like if it was if it

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Speaker 2: A classic juke box but like in terms of like

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Speaker 3: Saying, Taylor Swift still errs for me. No, No, that's.

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Speaker 1: Here's the question though, like do you have a song

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Speaker 1: It was so like it allowed me, like I don't know, well, wow,

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Speaker 1: surprising that you did the Disney Princess things, because you

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Speaker 3: Ease, Louise, thank you. That's so kind of.

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Speaker 1: You, what I do mean it, And like I wonder

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Speaker 3: I want to be with you. I feel very similarly

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Speaker 3: to you that like it really echoed what was happening

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about how coverage was you were nineteen

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Speaker 3: And I'm like I had to put out a record

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that will also forever be such a chic choice.

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Speaker 3: of like, now, how do I follow up Candy. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, so can I now ask, yes anymore?

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Speaker 2: Was that your zanga page?

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Speaker 3: I was positive you werena y.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry, are you Okay? Wait wait can you

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Speaker 1: So coverage was two thousand and three. Yes, that was

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Speaker 2: I remember, like it was sorry, it's like so the

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Speaker 1: Had set it up for you. It was.

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Speaker 3: I literally tried to Google it and was like I

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Speaker 3: Yep, sure, and you.

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Speaker 1: Would just like post an entry like a day was

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Speaker 2: Wow, or it's like a Schirdinger's cat, like it's kind

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Speaker 3: If someone out there is like, no, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: But I have to say, if you are that person,

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Speaker 1: that they had young impressionable children thinking that Mandy Moore

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Speaker 2: This is exactly out of a Satoshi con movie called

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Speaker 2: whoever this person was, did write in your voice saying

439
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 2: all of you guys saying that it's not me in

440
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: the comments, all of you guys not believing that it's

441
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: actually you guys are so silly.

442
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 3: That was not meat.

443
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm dying that is so I'm sorry.

444
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: Were all scared to death? Now, Like, did I just

445
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 2: like put something? Did I just really terrify us? Okay, great,

446
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: this is twenty years ago.

447
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: But also like, how sad? Why do we do that.

448
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean.

449
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: The thing is, though I felt a deeper connection with you,

450
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: even though it wasn't even you, Like what does that mean?

451
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think we're talking about

452
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: a time too where you weren't just like famous people

453
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: were so famous, Like I remember, like when there was

454
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: that pop idol worship of the late nineties, only two thousands. Yeah,

455
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: that had to feel cuckoo banatas it did.

456
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 3: But also like I feel like it would be crazier

457
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 3: to be a young person finding success now now the

458
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: access people have via social media. It's like that's the difference.

459
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: Like that was the only platform in which like you

460
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: could receive communication from someone, right besides like watching them

461
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: on entertainment tonight or like on a premiere red carpet

462
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 3: or something, or reading about them in a teen magazine

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: once a month. Like there was so like little information

464
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: out there about people that we lived and died by,

465
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: like the little morsels that we would get. Yes, and

466
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: now it's such a wild different world. I wouldn't know

467
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: how to navigate being a young person with like all

468
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: of the just like just the content that's constantly out there.

469
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: There's no prime there's no you know, yeah.

470
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: Right now instead of a more soul, it's like everyone

471
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: is expected to throw out like the full pig, every

472
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: soule hog, you know what.

473
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: I mean, all the time, constantly, there's never enough to

474
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: satiate people.

475
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it also feels like even in the work,

476
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: like because back in the day, it's like you could

477
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: sing Candy or Brittany could sing Baby One more Time,

478
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: or Christina could have Jenie in a bottle and it

479
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: would just be like a song, like a pop song.

480
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: And nowadays it's like Olivia Rodrigo and like the young Girls.

481
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: Now it's like it all feels like it has to

482
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: be part of a larger narrative about them, and we're

483
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: so aware of the narrative in a way that has

484
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: to feel I would imagine as at the very least

485
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: like a little disorienting, if not like very very almost

486
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: like dysmorphic in terms of your own image. Correct.

487
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such a good observation. Yeah, it's different. It's like, yeah,

488
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: things existed in such a like particular box. Like I

489
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: think I was very much allowed to be a normal

490
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: fifteen year old and go to the Beverly Center with

491
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 3: my friends or go to Universal studios or like hang

492
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: out and be a teenager and then like put the

493
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: work hat on and be, you know, have the adult

494
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: responsibilities that my friends didn't have. I had like the

495
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 3: best of both worlds, where I just don't know if

496
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: that's possible. And quite the same way.

497
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, sure you were they encouraging of you moving

498
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 1: intacting or was that something that you were like, I

499
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: really really want to do this.

500
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: I really wanted to do it.

501
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

502
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't think like record label was really aware. They

503
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 3: didn't really care. But the other like folks in my

504
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: sort of immediate orbit and my parents and stuff like,

505
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: they all knew that that was something I had my

506
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: eye on.

507
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

508
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice.

509
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, remember it was the first movie, right, Princess, you

510
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: were the villain.

511
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: The villain. You were the villain.

512
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Any memories from young Anne Hathaway and

513
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: you on set an adversarial relationship.

514
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: I remember her like walking into the trailer, always singing

515
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: in the morning. She was trying to flex on you

516
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: many No, not at all. It was just like she

517
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: was just sort of happy and like just like doing

518
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: little vocal trills and stuff like. It was very it

519
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: was very cat It was really.

520
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Cute, and then he had Sandra yelling at you to

521
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: get off the iconic the best two people I love

522
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: the most, just like interacting with each other.

523
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: And movie holds up, and I guess now they're doing

524
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: a third one. You should absolutely come in.

525
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: People have asked me, They're like, so you're gonna be

526
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: a part of it. I'm like, in what way would

527
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: that make any sense?

528
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. We could make a big choice where

529
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: your character is like the president or something big swing swing.

530
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: We should write that too. We're gonna write that. Listen,

531
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: if there's not a script, come on, give us a

532
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: crack at it. Please, come on. I mean we watch that.

533
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: We have to do it. We have to do it.

534
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: You would watch that and in that one correct and

535
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: it would maybe.

536
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: Be in the jukebox musical.

537
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. Anything you guys put your hands.

538
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: On famous last words. But wait's okay. You do Princess

539
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: Diaries and then you have your first lead role, which

540
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: to remember, So is it something were you, even at

541
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: that age are reading scripts talking about I like this

542
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: or I like that they okay.

543
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: And going on meetings and auditions and all of that.

544
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, but I had read of course, this

545
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: Nicholas Sparks book. It was like targeted for someone like me,

546
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: my age, and I was like, I have to do that.

547
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

548
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: So I had an audition and then I had a

549
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: screen test with Shane and Adam, our dear friend Adam,

550
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: and that was it. Wow, the book was period, right fifties. Yeah.

551
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, I think that that movie had

552
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: such a stronghold on my attention at that time that

553
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: I did read the book and that was a big

554
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: difference that was in the past, right, Yeah. Yeah.

555
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: Do you remember how long that shoot was? Was it

556
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: like five weeks or is that it was I want.

557
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: To say, maybe like two months. Maybe it's a tiny

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: bit longer. Yeah. In Wilmington, North Carolina, it was so

559
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: much fun.

560
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: There's nothing like I mean, just the ending, like uh,

561
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: I can't see him, but I can feel and then

562
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: like cry playing. It's so icon So when when you

563
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: watch that in the movie theaters where you're like you

564
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: kind of got.

565
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: No. I just it was such that experience left was

566
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: such an indelible mark on me. It was like, do

567
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: you guys ever have that like summer camp experience where

568
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: you're like, I will do anything to relive that and

569
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: you just like push that bruise just to feel it,

570
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: just to remember what it felt like. That was the

571
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: first experience I'd ever had with like, I don't know

572
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: if anything's ever going to feel like this again, like

573
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: the people the material, like how much it meant to us,

574
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: and then in turn, for like young people specifically to

575
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: find it and for them for it to resonate so

576
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: deeply with them and continue to resonate like next generation

577
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: after generation. Now it's somehow finding that film that was

578
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: I'll just I'll never forget that feeling. It's like you

579
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: just you're like, I'll chase that for the rest of

580
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: my life feeling that way.

581
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what is it about that movie? I mean,

582
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: besides like the quality of it, but is some like

583
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: invisible force there that like drives someone like me to

584
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: like watch the commentary multiple times?

585
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

586
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I talked about this when we were like tasking about you,

587
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: like you and Shane and Adam Shankman just not really

588
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: even caring what's going on screen, just and be like, oh,

589
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: Daryl Hanna's wig is crazy, and.

590
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: It was it was the I remember, even at the

591
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: time I was like this.

592
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: Is normal human. I think what it so clearly was

593
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: was the chemistry between you and you have you obviously

594
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: it's a compliment to you, but also like you seem

595
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: to have really great chemistry with a lot of your

596
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: leading men, but like a lot of your co stars,

597
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: like you really do you you find a connection as

598
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: a viewer and like almost everything you do, like you

599
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: seem very like committed and connected to your scene partner.

600
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 3: That's that is very beginning. I mean, let's say Shane

601
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: was a tremendously easy person to pretend to be in

602
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: love with it as a screen do you know those

603
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: lines blur and you're like.

604
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: This, I was gonna ask, Yes, it's such.

605
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: A crush on him and.

606
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Ends like even when you're an adult on a movie set,

607
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: like we know, but like.

608
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: That's there's like an electricity, that's something that like bubbles

609
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 3: up there for sure, and then hopefully it translates on screen.

610
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then like your body just doesn't really know

611
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: the difference most of the time though, yeah you know

612
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, it's like it is just like

613
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: a somatic response of like oh, like yeah, Lena Dunham

614
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: was saying this one time, like she would like have

615
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: a megazzee with someone and then like go home and

616
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: be like I'm in love with that person?

617
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 3: Do I really like.

618
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: In love with them?

619
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, what is It's what a funny little business,

620
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: funny world. We're in the.

621
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Only kissing scene I've ever done on camera was with

622
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: a straight guy, and I remember I felt like a

623
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: little robbed of that. I was like, because no matter

624
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: how hard I.

625
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Try, one day, one day, yeah, yeah, yeah, one day

626
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: I see that for you.

627
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Anyways, I have to say, like when you do walk

628
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: to remember and like, because I remember the response at

629
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: the time was like, oh hey, red alert, red Alert,

630
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: one of the pop girlies is actually good at this

631
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: and like and like, okay, this is happening here right there.

632
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: So then comes like Saved, which is so iconic, and

633
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: you keep going there's chasing Liberty, et cetera. And then

634
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: like fast forward to now you're this like Emmy nominated actress,

635
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Like is that what drives you in terms of careers,

636
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Like you're looking for acting stuff or are you generally

637
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: still open to everything? I know you did release an

638
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: album a couple of years ago, but like.

639
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean acting I think is the thing that's

640
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: always pulled me, and music has always felt like my

641
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: side piece, Like it's the thing that my side piece

642
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: that I'm like most passionate about. Probably but because I

643
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: never found the same sort of success, nor did I

644
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: ever have aspirations of like wanting to do like arena

645
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: tours or anything. I was like, I don't want to

646
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: make that kind of music, gotcha. It's always just sort

647
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: of existed in its own little box, which is great.

648
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: It's like I can lean on it when I want

649
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: and I'm looking to be creative and there's not a

650
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: lot percolating in the other areas of my life. But

651
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: but acting has been the thing that's like really creatively

652
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: I think sustained me.

653
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, now I'm waiting for in seven months you

654
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: release like a huge arena. It's like you representation, like

655
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: with a shaved head, which stomping out like.

656
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, is it fair to say

657
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: that like you kind of got swept up in the

658
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: music to begin with, Like within a year of like

659
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: you being like discovered, was it like like just growing

660
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: up in Orlando and the like, it was like, hey,

661
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: we got songs for you, Yes, And then like within

662
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: a year you're like touring with them, saying yeah, I.

663
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: Went from I remember watching in Sync, like I have

664
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: very visceral memories of watching their like remember that Merry Christmas,

665
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: like watching like getting ready to go to school, almost

666
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: done with like or like how through my freshman year,

667
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: just about to leave to go start recording my first

668
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: record and cut to like six months later opening up

669
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: for them on their summer Amphitheater tour.

670
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: Looking back now, like twenty plus years into the future

671
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: from that moment, what is like the takeaway? Like is

672
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: it like whoa, what the hell kind of rapturing was that?

673
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Or like, obviously you're grateful that like it'll happen, but

674
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: like on some level, like does that inform like the

675
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: relationship with music now where you're like that was something

676
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: that was like happenstance a little bit, and like now

677
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: I get to actually decide sure how I want to

678
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: like move forward.

679
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm, like you said, incredibly grateful for

680
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: this absurd opportunity of getting like plucked from obscurity and

681
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: given this like platform. But sure now twenty years removed

682
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: from all of that, almost twenty five years to think

683
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: like I can make my own choices creatively, like I

684
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: can make music when I want to, when I like

685
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: I feel inspired to. Again, like that to me is

686
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: the metric and measure of success.

687
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, this might be a good place with the question. Yeah,

688
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: so you mentioned growing up. The one centerpiece question we

689
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: ask here on Lost Colature is Manny Moore, what was

690
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say culture was for you?

691
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: So this meaning that thing that you can look back

692
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: and you're pretty positive like you started to form in

693
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: a personality, your personal way around that thing.

694
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: I think it was Disney movies.

695
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh thank god, and that how wait, how well did

696
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: that work out?

697
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: The Little Mermaid specifically was like the thing I remember

698
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: being about six, and that coincided with seeing like my

699
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: first play my school did, like the sixth graders put

700
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: on a production each year at like the big touring

701
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: theater where all the Broadway shows came through, and they

702
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: did Oklahoma, and I very again viscerally remember like being

703
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: in a seat watching the girl who was Laurie saying, Oh,

704
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: what a beautiful morning, and I was like, I looked

705
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: around at the audience like in awe of how great

706
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: she was, and I was like, I'm doing that. And

707
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: then I like would go home and I'd sing along

708
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: to the Little Mermaid like that time was just like

709
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: very formative, and Little Mermaid led to obviously like Beoting

710
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: the Beast and Aladdin, and I was like, I have

711
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: to do this, like the music, the acting. Like there

712
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: was something about the combination of both that I was like,

713
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: this is this is what I have to do.

714
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Wow, oh amazing. Was this Orlando at the time?

715
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: Orlando?

716
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like and Disney itself kind of looming being

717
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: in the air, Yeah, in the backyard factors in a

718
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: little bit.

719
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: Ish, Like I had no idea that the Mickey Mouse

720
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: Club existed or like what that was until years later.

721
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: So I just like randomly happened to truly just be

722
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: a kid from Orlando. I had no like other connections

723
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: to like the business or anything. Yeah.

724
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so I mean years later, do they

725
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: come to you with Tangle?

726
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: No?

727
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: No, I auditioned you did, Yeah, And I was terrified.

728
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: I was like, ugh, what, like this is all I've

729
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: ever wanted my opportunity to fall dreams And you know,

730
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: like Disney wasn't doing musicals then they had really like

731
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: sort of gone away from that. And then like the

732
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Princess and the Frog I remember, was like the first

733
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: sort of forway back into like the classic Disney musical,

734
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: and then Tangled this Rapunzel story was the next one,

735
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: and I was terrified. I just had this album that

736
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier called Amanda Lee come out, and I

737
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: was like, well, maybe that'll bode well, Like they can

738
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: listen like I am a musician, I am a singer,

739
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: like they'll be able to reference that.

740
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

741
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: And I just remember like going in for the initial

742
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: audition and it was terrifying. And then I was in

743
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: New York and I had to go in with Alan

744
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: Mankin in New York and like sing some songs with

745
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: him at the piano, yeah, which was also terrifying. Guy, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

746
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: Beauting the Beasts like all of that, like classic Disney,

747
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 3: And so I somehow got the part.

748
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: But then when you get in the room and it's

749
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: you and Alan, does it somehow melt away and all

750
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden become fun like oh yeah yeah, and

751
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: you're like whoa, Like.

752
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: You were at Capitol rec down the street like performing

753
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: doing I See the Light, like with an orchestra with

754
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 3: Alan Mankin, like the first time that Zach Levi, who

755
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: plays the male lead in the film, like that we

756
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: actually work together, sang it together. Yeah, in separate rooms,

757
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: but I mean for the rest of like a movie.

758
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have all done animated stuff. It's

759
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 3: like you're by yourself. You're yeah hard, it's so hard.

760
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: You're doing your lines with a director sometimes just by yourself,

761
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: like multiple times. So to like have the chance to

762
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: actually sing that song a duet with him.

763
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: Was the orchestra there, that's Jesney. You can do it

764
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: like that. I feel like with the budget wise, like yeah,

765
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: you see do you see videos of them like creating it,

766
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Like I believe for Frozen they released videos of like

767
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: Adina singing whatever song it was, and like there's people

768
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: there like Adina and Kristen in the room together like

769
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: that was. I mean, it's.

770
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Magical, it is. Yeah, It's like that's what it should

771
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: be if it's Disney. So you're doing it right. When

772
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: you go to Disney.

773
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Now do they roll out the red carpet?

774
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: I feel like you get your sort of opportunity to

775
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: have a tour guide everything. Okay, But so I'm just

776
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: like waiting for my kids to be old enough to

777
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: really appreciate that, and like, you know, I understand my

778
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: my older guy is three, and he just sort of

779
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: like understands. He's like Mama singing, like he kind of

780
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: like he's sort of understanding.

781
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm going to say something that could

782
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: be construed a certain way, but I really think that,

783
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: like for all, like the gargantuan success that Frozen is

784
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 2: was will be like it needed Tangle to like set that.

785
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: I think Tangle needed to succeed.

786
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: In Beaver four, I think so too, Like I think

787
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 3: it opened the door for the Disney musical Gain to

788
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: sort of come back into fashion. Yeah exactly.

789
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: And I mean you really bent that whole movie towards

790
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: Rapunzel and like her life and like what she wants.

791
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: And it's just I love that movie so much. I

792
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: still get chills when I listen to the reprise of

793
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: My Life game both of them both well oh yeah,

794
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: but like when she like literally touches Grass for the

795
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: first time, you know, it is so good the way

796
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: that shot kind of works, and like it's just so

797
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: so good. There's a Kingdom Hearts three level that takes

798
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: place in Can we.

799
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: Talk about this, Let's talk about please, let's talk about

800
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 4: can we talk about that?

801
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: So I had no idea.

802
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 4: What I was doing for Eric for Eric Oka say.

803
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: What this is because they might not know.

804
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: So I had I had also referenced that and my

805
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: discussion Final Fantasy seven and Rebirth, and it's this big

806
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: triple A video game that's come out that's like been

807
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, anticipated for years and it's now you I

808
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: think you understand that she is one of the most

809
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: iconic video game characters ever.

810
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

811
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Now I'm okayn't at the time, but like at the time,

812
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: it's just Kingdom Hearts.

813
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: This is the crossover game between Disney and Square Enix,

814
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: which was the Final Fantasy Games sort of maker and

815
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: an all star cast truly like Hailey Jolosmon playing Sora

816
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: you know, I hate him Penetier and then Eavid bory

817
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: n As with Squall from Final Fantasy and I think

818
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: they had Oh Condet Kelly what's her name from even

819
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: stevens Oh played you Fee anyways, So then you play Aris,

820
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: so you play Arith.

821
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: What was that.

822
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: Experience like well as a non video game, I just

823
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was doing. And I think

824
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: because like it was the first edition of this game.

825
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: I just like went in, did my job and that

826
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: was it, and they came back to me asking me

827
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: to do it subsequently, I think for like the next version,

828
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: but I couldn't because of scheduling, and I guess they

829
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: just like continue to reach. Yeah, but like other people

830
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: have played this character.

831
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: I say, and it's not just because you're in the

832
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: room with me, like you are my preferred voice for Erath.

833
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: Thank you even to this day. The new Girl is lovely.

834
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: There's something new Girl. There's something about Mandy Moore doing

835
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Erath that is like that just that's that's it, right,

836
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: And like Eric is like the savior of the planet.

837
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: She is like pure, pure, like sweetness and love and

838
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: joy and whatever. A two hour day of work for

839
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: you imbued that character with exactly what it needed. Hans.

840
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Hans thumbs up, don't you agree, Hans?

841
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: There you go.

842
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm glad I could give you

843
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: that joye and joy. I'm literally going to live with

844
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: this like horrific guilt and shame that I had nothing

845
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: to do.

846
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: That's plea an ounce of guilt. It's just isn't that

847
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: such a funny story?

848
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: It's wild.

849
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I wish a way that you like were like, I'm

850
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna wait to answer this question. I was like, Oh,

851
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be such a moment when Bowen finds out

852
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: that it was her and for you to say no.

853
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: So it was so good. I love it perfect. Well.

854
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: I funny you mentioned the guides because I just went

855
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: to Disney the other day because Joelkimbooster, our friend, was

856
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: working for a Hulu thing and they're Disney, and so

857
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: they offered him like a VIP guide and so I'm

858
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: the kind of person that goes to Disney and I'm like,

859
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: sort of, it's me and the guide. We're right here.

860
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then everyone asking questions talking to him, We're

861
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: planning the trip, we're doing the whole thing. I've taken you.

862
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Yes, we went to we went to Orlando and did

863
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: the guide, and like, I love it. I get so

864
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: like in the weeds with like sometimes now I feel

865
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: like I want to be on the app, like these

866
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: crazy apps like you'll you'll know when you have you

867
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: taken your kids. Yeah, yeah, so you know you have

868
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: to be on the app. But no, you have the

869
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: VIP guide.

870
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah she doesn't, No, I do. I bought the tickets

871
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: on the app once for sure. Yeah, what I'm saying

872
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: is like, oh, looking to see like how long weak

873
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: times are?

874
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Definitely culture is so it has it's really captured like Disney.

875
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you have to be down on

876
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: the phone and then you go. And the way that

877
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: I like can activate in it it is by being

878
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: like right here with the guide totally. But the other

879
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: day I went to California Adventure on Saint Patrick's Day.

880
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful day and I have to shout

881
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: out Jasline, Jasline, you rock. She was our guide and

882
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: she was amazing.

883
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Jaslyin, is this is the second time

884
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: this week that you've told me of Jazlyin.

885
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: Because I connect with these people, I think about when

886
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, how much I would love

887
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: like I can't think of anything more than like when

888
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: I was a little little kid. You might remember this,

889
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: like you remember Universal Studios in our land they have

890
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: the Jaws Ride. All I wanted to be was a

891
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: Jaws ride boat the captain Captain.

892
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: I literally am off book on it to this day.

893
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: Wow. And we did a show. We did a show

894
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: at UCB or so you will get wet. Well, you

895
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: will get wet or I played someone who was a

896
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: musical and I played someone whose dream it was to

897
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: do that, and then Bonn Yang played the shark. I

898
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: played Jaws. Yeah. Wow, she was amazing as the shark.

899
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: Damn, I really missed that one. Yeah, you should have

900
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: come to twenty fifteen. I would have. Okay, but Little

901
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Mermaid is like Rain Supreme for you.

902
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Dody Benson, something about that tone of gosh.

903
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: We saw her at a gay bar at three am

904
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: in New York City.

905
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: One was she doing on three am?

906
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: It was with her daughters, her daughter's birthday. It was

907
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: three in the morning. We have we just seen sciss

908
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. You guys had just seen Scissor or something.

909
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: And then you guys went to Flaming Saddle something wild

910
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: like we went to go see like the Sissa concert.

911
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: I think it was my birthday last year, and then

912
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: we went out afterwards. It was three in the morning, and.

913
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: You recognize Jody Benson.

914
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: One of us did, and maybe Aaron Jackson did, Like,

915
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that's Jodie Benson. Sure enough. It was like

916
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: every day taking their turn to kind of go over

917
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: to her and be like, I just want to say,

918
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: you change my life. You being here is an honor.

919
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Everyone telling her that her presence at the gay bar

920
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: at dam was an honor in her Disney voice.

921
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: Like thank you so much.

922
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm just here with my daughter though bye, like gig eyes,

923
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: like can I just can I just live? And then

924
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: of course like it's blazing saddles, right, flaming saddles. Okay,

925
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: So at that bar, they get up on the bar

926
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: and they like do a little dance and they were

927
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: all little mermaid and I was like, that has to

928
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: be she was living her life for sure, totally imagine

929
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: some musical theater majors have come up and belt.

930
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: It in your face though, Yeah, for sure, how does

931
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: how does that go?

932
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Usually?

933
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it, come on, I encourage it.

934
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: For sure. I wouldn't be I wish I were that bold.

935
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I know. Do you think going back, you would have

936
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: gone to like musical theater school one.

937
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: Hundred Yeah, yeah. I went to a stage door almost

938
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: like the musical theater camp. Yeah. Oh wow.

939
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: What was that like?

940
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: Really formative experience. Yeah. And it's crazy the people that

941
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: you run into in the business who were like, I'm

942
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: an entertainment lawyer, now and I'm a casting director. I'm

943
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: like everyone and I went to stage or I was

944
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: there like a year before you were. I was there

945
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: during your summer. It's like everyone's peppered industry in different ways.

946
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any any fun people from your.

947
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: Natalie Portman, oh were your friends? No, we were in

948
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: like the Little Cabaret Troupe. I mean she's a little

949
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: she's a few years older than me, which you know

950
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: at that time that it was a huge for sure.

951
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: It's like please, but we were in like the little

952
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: cabaret troupe together where we went and performed at like

953
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: the like free labor at the Catskill Like yes, like

954
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: nightclubs and stuff. It was free labor. Yeah, we like

955
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: went and performed like a two hour show like Medley

956
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: for for a bunch of people at these Catskill hotels. Amazing, hilarious.

957
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty good one. That's a really

958
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: good one.

959
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: Like at a certain age, you were like just jealous

960
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 2: that you weren't going to stage door right.

961
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I knew of anything until later,

962
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: but I remember like hearing when I went to college

963
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: it was like, oh I did interlock in. That was

964
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: the other one or I did whatever the fuck like

965
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's just all these things.

966
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: And I remember feeling when I was in college like

967
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what I did, I was going to

968
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: be behind everyone else. And I would imagine that we

969
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: all have that to some extent where it's just like

970
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: you always feel like, well, I can never be this

971
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: because I don't I haven't done that. Like I don't

972
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: know when I got over that, but like I don't know,

973
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: like like those little things of like you we don't

974
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: have like acting training or like so you can't be

975
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: a serious actor, or like did you ever have like

976
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome?

977
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: Like it all the time? Still? Oh yes, I mean

978
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: I feel like if people say they don't, they're lying.

979
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: Everyone has that to a certain degree.

980
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if you ever get to that point where

981
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: you're like not nervous before you start a job, or

982
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: like you don't leave a take and be like, oh

983
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: god on it.

984
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: Maybe if you're like Merril or something like that. I

985
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: don't know, but I kind of like it. It makes me

986
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: feel like I care about something, like the stakes are high,

987
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: you know, if you just like reframe it in that way, Yes,

988
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: that like you just want to show up and be

989
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: your very best. Like it's I don't know, I kind

990
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: of like thrive off of that. I know that, like

991
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm pouring all I need to into something.

992
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it comes out of like just accounting for failure. Yes,

993
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this could go in a way that

994
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: I don't want it to, and therefore I shouldn't do this.

995
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: And it's dangerous and it's like all these evolutionary like

996
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: lizard brain things that we like think about. Yeah, it

997
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: is a dangerous thing, not like physically, but like.

998
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when I was a kid, I didn't sorry,

999
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: I didn't interrupt. When I was a kid, I didn't

1000
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: think about that. Like I I can sort of visualize

1001
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: being fifteen and walking on a stage in front of

1002
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: twenty thousand people like a Backstreet Boys concert. Clearly that

1003
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: audience is not there to see little O Me. They're

1004
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: there to see the Backstreet Boys. But I had like

1005
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: no fear. If I were to do that now, I

1006
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: would ship myself. Like I I don't know what it is.

1007
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's what you were just saying.

1008
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Like I didn't recognize the stakes at that point. I

1009
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: was just like I didn't know what I didn't know,

1010
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: So there was just this giant like unknown of like

1011
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go up there, and I love this opportunity

1012
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna you know, and.

1013
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: I know my steps exactly.

1014
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: Doing the dancing exactly.

1015
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen fifteen and then the boys are coming out.

1016
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're gonna fly across the audience.

1017
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Right, were you sort of more in line with the

1018
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: in Sync or the Backstreet Boys fandom and you can

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: answer now.

1020
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like I was Backtory Boys. Yeah,

1021
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: like that was millennium that right, Like that was just

1022
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: a moment and they had their show was like in

1023
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: the round that it was pretty stellar.

1024
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah, I think I saw like I

1025
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: never went. I wish going back, I had gone to

1026
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: more of those types of shows. My first I never

1027
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: saw the Spice Girls. I will always kick myself, like

1028
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: if they ever reunite again, I will go the one.

1029
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: But I guess big pop star I saw. My first

1030
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: concert ever was Mariah Carey first concert. Yeah, but like

1031
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I never saw Brittany never. I saw Christina in Vegas

1032
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: years later, but like didn't see Backstory Boys or in Sync,

1033
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: So I'll never know, like that type of insane fandom.

1034
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: But then again, we did go to the aerostour, and

1035
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how it can get crazy.

1036
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets crazier than that historically crazy.

1037
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Are you a swifty? Sure?

1038
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: I will say I don't know her music like well,

1039
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: but I cannot imagine the joy that she brings so

1040
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: many people like that. That to me, I'm like, what

1041
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: an incredible gift to be able to spread that kind

1042
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: of joy to the world, Like that.

1043
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: Is what is a super power, like a very joy.

1044
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: But I think that's what kept me going back and

1045
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: back and back with Experience. It's so fun and every.

1046
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like wow, to be in control of that

1047
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: like collective mood. Yeah.

1048
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: There is some sort of charm that happens on the audience.

1049
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: It's it is almost like a magic trick, like and

1050
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: there's times that she's doing things that you're like, Taylor,

1051
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: come on, Like when she points at the audience, She's like,

1052
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: let me see what this does. And she points at

1053
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: the audience in the crowd screams and you're like, there's

1054
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: something about that, but it's really happening. It's just so funny,

1055
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: like having that type of of that level. It's like,

1056
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like, but like probably she

1057
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: did walk out there and think like another day like

1058
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: you did at fifteen.

1059
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah at that point, yeah, you're like, this is

1060
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: my life, this is what I've adjusted exactly.

1061
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: I feel like your last album, like writing with your husband,

1062
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: must have been like the diametrically different thing from like

1063
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: starting out in music, where it was just like Okay,

1064
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: it's just like give me what you got, I'll learn it.

1065
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, not to discount like your process and like

1066
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: making those songs.

1067
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: I had no part of that process. It truly was

1068
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: an anar person saying you're going to record this song

1069
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: on this day at this place.

1070
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: This is back in the day. Yeah, there was no

1071
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: dy Candy was not like.

1072
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: No, that was just like that was a song that

1073
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: they had found and you were going to go and

1074
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: record it.

1075
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: How hard was it for you to go give it

1076
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: to me the first time? Or were you kind of like, no, yeah,

1077
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna give give it to me.

1078
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: Because you gave it. I don't remember. I just remember

1079
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: the spoken word part. I'm like, you know who you are?

1080
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: Is this weird? It feels weird even I think it's underrated.

1081
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: I think it's aged like a fine one.

1082
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: I think it's really good.

1083
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really good, and I think it's up

1084
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: there with Christina's Did you want to be the One Tonight?

1085
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Do you know exactly what you like that? You need

1086
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: a spoken word? If you're gonna be a pop star

1087
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: of that era, you need the spoken word. Bridge.

1088
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take you, and you have it.

1089
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: You did it, You got it right of the way exactly.

1090
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: You checked the box.

1091
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: And I will say before I forget, the video for

1092
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: Crush came on one time when we were on a

1093
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: family vacation with another family and there's a quick moment

1094
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: where you're like fully closed, I might add, just like

1095
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: in bed with like the guy, like the love interest,

1096
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: just kind of like playfully flirterly, like you know, PG.

1097
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: Like very peachy, very PG.

1098
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: But the fact that you.

1099
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: Guys were lying down in a bed was enough to

1100
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: ring every alarm bell for one of the mothers, where

1101
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: she was like, no, we're.

1102
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: Turning this off.

1103
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: And so I I do associate you with like a

1104
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: sort of like mischievousness.

1105
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: Well I'm not supposed to watch man anymore.

1106
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, thank you for imbuing me

1107
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: with something I definitely don't have. Like it like I'm

1108
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: the most boring vanilla person, so I'll take it.

1109
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it was like I think you've, like really you

1110
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: have a stake in every single area of my life

1111
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: from various times, and it's like, so it's amazing to talk.

1112
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: That's very special though, because like I will say, like

1113
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: for and for some reason, when I say this, it

1114
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: sounds pejoriti off. It's literally not like for millennial people,

1115
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: like you are truly a pop culture icon. And then

1116
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: like to see like like I'm on set with Ray

1117
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Ramano yesterday and I told him like, oh, I'm doing

1118
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: it this episode tomorrow on my podcast with Mandy Moore,

1119
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how much he enjoyed you

1120
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and this is us and like, you know, my parents

1121
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: are so excited about this because they love this is

1122
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: us and like you've really gotten to touch a lot of

1123
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: people with your talent, like and that is like that's

1124
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: really cool and they're very special.

1125
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Very special. Thank you, guys. I'm gonna remember this day

1126
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: for a very long time. When I'm having a low moment,

1127
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like.

1128
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: Like I do about this is us Like, was that

1129
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: the most challenging thing you've ever done?

1130
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1131
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: I think so, Yeah, and.

1132
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: That must feel nice for that to be. Like also

1133
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: like the most I guess on paper like acclaimed thing

1134
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: is like sure, or.

1135
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: The most recent at least.

1136
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what I mean. It's just like

1137
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: you get this like big opportunity, and it's like, not

1138
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: only is it difficult in terms of what you're actually doing,

1139
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: but also a ton of people see it. Yeah, like

1140
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: that's a huge, huge hit critically commercially. Yeah, and it

1141
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: went for a really long time, and so then you

1142
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: have to keep it interesting for yourself and also maintained

1143
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the way they heighten the way it gets difficult, like

1144
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: the age range gets bigger, and the way to keep

1145
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: it surprising for the audience gets more challenging because people

1146
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: are aware of I guess so many words, the way

1147
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: it ends like and I would imagine that like that

1148
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: has to be looking back on that as like a

1149
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: whole body of work, Like is that like the thing

1150
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: in your career that you're the most proud of for sure? Yeah?

1151
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't think I've ever been a

1152
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: part of something that's been as long running. Yeah, and

1153
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: has also touched as many people like that I'm aware

1154
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: of as a project like that.

1155
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and also Milo and Milo he never it

1156
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: never will get old to me looking at that man. Huh.

1157
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am not a bad scene partner.

1158
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: No, that's what I mean. Like, also, great actor, such

1159
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: a good actor, yes, I mean I remember from Heroes.

1160
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: He was so good in Heroes.

1161
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch Heroes? I did not. I didn't

1162
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: watch Gilmour Girls either, So you had a blind spot.

1163
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: I had a real blind spot. I was like, I

1164
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: don't know anything about you, but let's like jump into

1165
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: being a husband of my Yeah.

1166
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: That's probably good though at a certain point, like when

1167
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: you don't know too much about someone or like you

1168
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: can't be like I'm working right now with Lisa Kudro

1169
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: and Ray Romano and like Linda Cardellini, and I'm like,

1170
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't understand how I'm going to like not.

1171
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Talk about the comeback act like me towards Scudro.

1172
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1173
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: But you do it?

1174
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: Sure, who's been the number one person for you that

1175
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: you're like, I can't even believe this.

1176
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: That I've been around, Yeah, that you've worked with that.

1177
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: I've worked with Diane Keaton. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1178
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: was like hard to ever sort of separate, like you

1179
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: are Annie Hall like First Wives Club, like I that was.

1180
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: That was and she is just everything you want her

1181
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: to be though.

1182
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's very warm and also like idiosyncratic, funny, correct.

1183
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: But like so deeply maternal I think at her core,

1184
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: which is why she's so good at playing a mom.

1185
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: And she would also just show up the set in

1186
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: like the most incredible outfit, just like the hat, the gloves,

1187
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: like at six am when I'm in like sweats and

1188
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: like wiping the sleep out of my eyes. She was

1189
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: just like in a full look.

1190
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: Of a time. She's of a time and a culture

1191
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: and like a mindset. We're like, no, like you show

1192
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: up in you yeah.

1193
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, consummate professional, like yeah this is her world.

1194
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, that is the best. That is a Alzheimer. Yeah.

1195
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: Robin Williams, what was that one?

1196
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Wonderful? Same, like never got old being around him. He

1197
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: was constantly on which I remember thinking like I wonder

1198
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: if that's a burden to feel like you have to

1199
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: show up and perform and like be that person that

1200
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: everyone expects you to be. Because he was just always

1201
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: cracking jokes, like always sort of yeah just on, but

1202
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: so lovely really kind as well, just like very very warm,

1203
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: very much with like family. Man. I loved loved working

1204
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: with him.

1205
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 1: Very cool man.

1206
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: I miss yeah, like the culture would just be a

1207
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: little bit better.

1208
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was thinking of myself on SETH

1209
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: the other day, like just how easy he made everything look,

1210
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: but yet his comedy was so it was so obviously

1211
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: comedy right, Like it was like he was playing things hard,

1212
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: but it always looked really easy, like in a way

1213
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: that Jim Carrey is like too, Like it's like like

1214
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: a heightened groundedness yes, yes, like where you realize like

1215
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: they are just acting as themselves.

1216
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: Sure, and yet it's good for the.

1217
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: Camera and works for everyone in real time. Like that's

1218
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: a crazy thing to be a lot of plates spinning

1219
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: a lot of plates. Yeah, but they did it very well.

1220
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: And I am and I am, Oh my god, Something

1221
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: you Gotta Give is gonna get rewatched immediately.

1222
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: It holds up, it really does. That's one of those

1223
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: movies for me, like anytime it's on, I can't, I

1224
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: have to watch the whole thing. Her Face Journey when

1225
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: she delivers the line to Jack Nicholson, this was.

1226
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: Lovely Nights. Oh, and she just.

1227
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: Like, are you doing like five different faces within like

1228
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: two seconds?

1229
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I can't do it, but it's it's so like it.

1230
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I know. I didn't. You know, I didn't. I didn't,

1231
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: it didn't.

1232
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: But I watched her performance and something's gotta give before

1233
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: we shot by her eye and I was like, how

1234
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: do I like portray like heartbreaking this way?

1235
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: And she like does that so?

1236
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: Well? Oh my god?

1237
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: You did watch that Fire Island?

1238
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: Yah? Yeah? And I was like, this is such a

1239
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 3: good movie.

1240
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: What gets you in? Like? Are you a music person in? Yeah?

1241
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure?

1242
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Do you have a secret artist? No?

1243
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: It's like it's weird when I was doing This is

1244
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: Us because I had to cry a.

1245
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: Lot all the time.

1246
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: I would often just be like driving around like with

1247
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: my you know, like music on shuffle or whatever, and

1248
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: a song would come on and it would just elicit

1249
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: some sort of activate something, elicit some reaction, and I'm like, well,

1250
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: I got to remember this one and then lo and behold.

1251
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: I would like go back and try to like mind that,

1252
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: like what was that feeling that I felt there? And

1253
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: if you have some sort of association to a song

1254
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: or just listening to something like trigger something in you.

1255
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm the kind of person that's like I'll listen to

1256
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: it like ten times in a row. Yeah, just sort

1257
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: of like get into that place.

1258
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So that's funny that you bring that up,

1259
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: because I remember I had there was a crying scene

1260
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: in Fire Island, and I really struggled with accessing emotion

1261
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: like that, Like it's one of those things where it

1262
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: just doesn't come super easy to me. I feel like

1263
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: you're very good at it. I don't know about that,

1264
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes I'll get so frustrated that

1265
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: the frustration makes me cry, and I like, I guess

1266
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: I'll just use this. But I literally remember saying to myself,

1267
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: I was like, should I watch a walk to remember?

1268
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Because I was like it literally used to solely exist

1269
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: for me as an outlet to Yeah. Yeah, yeah, literally

1270
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: like just to just to have the thing of like

1271
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I know, it would feel amazing to release the feelings

1272
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: I have right now, even if I didn't have words

1273
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: for them or words for why I felt like I

1274
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: wanted to cry. But it was like there's something to

1275
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: that too, like that art existing as like a just

1276
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: a release for people. Yeah, again and again and again.

1277
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: It was that movie and a movie called Heart and Souls.

1278
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that movie. I don't,

1279
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: iconic movie with Robert Downey Junior and Kira Sedgwick and

1280
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Alfree Woodard like in the early nineties. Like one of

1281
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: my goals is to like at some point like that

1282
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: movie or do something with that movie. It's so great.

1283
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: Like there's four people who passed way in a bus

1284
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: crash in the fifties and their souls get attached to

1285
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: a baby, which is Robert Donney junior, and they're with

1286
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: him all the way until he's an adult, and they

1287
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: watch him grow up and he sort of becomes like

1288
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: this difficult adult and suddenly he's able to see them,

1289
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: and you find out that they have to use him

1290
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: to do their unfinished business and so like it's about

1291
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: like all their relationships together. It's like a comedy but

1292
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: very heartfelt and it is such a tear jerker. It

1293
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: really is like the definition. And every time like someone

1294
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: doesn't know this movie, I ring the bell because I'm like,

1295
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: this never talks to me. I think I have, but

1296
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: like I sometimes bail on it. You ever have that

1297
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: movie like that's just yours. Yeah, and you sometimes bail

1298
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: on talking about it because you're.

1299
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: Like, oh god, I don't know if anyone's gonna get this.

1300
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: What's that for?

1301
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: You? Do you have that you think of one top

1302
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: of yeah exactly, but like this is this is that?

1303
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: And I'm no curious Edric a little bit because we're

1305
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: friends with soci her daughter, and I literally said I

1306
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: was like hurt and Souls and she was like, oh wow,

1307
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: no one ever says that one.

1308
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is what I'm saying, Like,

1309
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: no one ever.

1310
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: Says that one special.

1311
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: I got to watch it. It's good, It's really good,

1312
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: Like she has this model. I get the end.

1313
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: I can't. Everyone watched it. The Reader's Katie's Publish's finalists.

1314
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. Oh, I guess this is what

1315
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: we should tell you. So upcoming is the last Culture

1316
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: says Cultural. It's a category called Record of the Year. Okay,

1317
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: one of your songs has entered the conversation.

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01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: It has Gardinia. Oh wow, you guys.

1319
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: We're we're in rehearsals, rehearsals for Guardinia. We've been rehearsing today.

1320
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna rip it up on stage because you rip

1321
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: it up on that record.

1322
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: You opened all the way up and sang that song,

1324
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: and the words are on a grounde with your full treest,

1325
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: with your full test you gave it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's like in contention for Record of

1329
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: the Year.

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01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: It is absolutely It's up against tough competitions. Singles Soon

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: by Silinas.

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01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, I know that's your that's your jam.

1333
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what else is nominated.

1334
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I forget, but I think the front runners are

1335
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: single Soon and Guardidia.

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: Just Guardenia is that is a stand and deliver good

1337
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: old fashioned thank you, healthy ballad.

1338
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: The wild Hope, Wild Hope, Wild Hope is one of

1339
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: your best thank you streamers.

1340
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Speaker 3: For a while, it wasn't And what is what that

1341
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: just record label?

1342
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? But that is? Is there a story behind Guardeenia

1343
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: at all?

1344
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: Like my first heartbreak, which is ridiculous. I just sang

1345
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: it at a show a couple of weeks ago, and

1346
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: you did. I did. My husband was like, who's this

1347
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: person that, like you made love on the floor with.

1348
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: I was like, we don't need to know about that,

1349
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: but this was like my first love and you know,

1350
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: those relationships that loomed so large, and we had gone

1351
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: through this breakup. It was so traumatic, and I was

1352
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: working in New York and I just remember, like God,

1353
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: the poor people that I was working with, like laying

1354
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: out the drama of my life as if like it

1355
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: was the worst thing to ever happen to anyone, that

1356
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: no one else had ever been through heartbreak before. Yeah,

1357
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous now thinking back to it, but I just, yeah,

1358
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: remember taking like walks through Central Park by myself, like

1359
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: having this real just time being in the city for

1360
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: the first time, like living there, working there, and trying

1361
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: to like heal from this just awful event in my life.

1362
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Speaker 1: It's been good.

1363
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: Getting to know me more is such a good lyric.

1364
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: It's such a good it's great. I mean that was

1365
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: that walk till Taylor could run.

1366
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's not Taylor Swift, that's why it's denominated

1367
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: the year. This is huge.

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: It's guys, I'm like floored for an almost twenty year

1369
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: old song.

1370
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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I was just listening to

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: it the other day and I was just like, this

1372
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: goes awful in a way that I honestly had forgotten.

1373
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Wild hope. I was so soad. I mean you were sad.

1374
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: I was so sad.

1375
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: Are you a very deep feeling person? I can tell

1376
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: what's your astro sign? So it's your season, your season,

1377
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: my season. Yea, congrats for that. Thanks, we just left

1378
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: my season.

1379
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,959
Speaker 3: We did.

1380
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: It was thank you. It was tough this spisy season didn't.

1381
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 3: It was a deliver.

1382
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: It was like you ever know when you're in an

1383
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: emotional mood and there's not a clear reason why. Yeah,

1384
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: it's like for some reason, I've just been over the

1385
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: past like three or four weeks, I've just been a

1386
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: little anxious, a little on edge, a little like melancholy

1387
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: for like something I can't really pinpoint. I don't have

1388
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: to be reasons. I guess you're right right like, and

1389
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of just like what it is.

1390
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, sorry, I'm happy we're in your season exactly.

1391
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: And I love blaming things on the stars.

1392
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: An easy escape, so easy, I tell you, guys. So,

1393
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I remember seeing you at

1394
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: the Emmys. Yes, yes, yes, and you. I remember I

1395
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: was with some of my cast I was with Susan

1396
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: Watson and she ran up to you guys ran up

1397
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: to you guys and took a picture and I was like, wait,

1398
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: I know them, Why is she taking a picture with him?

1399
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: And then she came up and she was like, do

1400
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: you listen to their podcast? I was like no, and

1401
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: that's when I started listening.

1402
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: Oh my good Susan Collecta Watson, thank you so much.

1403
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: Were you nominated?

1404
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: No, it was Booty Soudy was It was for SNL

1405
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: writing was nominated and I had just gotten moved to

1406
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: the cast. It was before I spent This is like

1407
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. I gotten moved to the cast. Yes,

1408
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: so this is before you got your acting nomination. This

1409
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: is you guys were writing when we were writing.

1410
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well I remembering.

1411
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: I remember seeing you guys, and I was like, I

1412
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: was like, oh, she really likes this podcast. I must

1413
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: listen to it because I know. I was like, I

1414
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: recognized you guys, and I just couldn't pin.

1415
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: I was like, there's someone, there are people to know

1416
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: for us, Like you have to imagine like we're on

1417
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 4: that red carpet and it's like all famous people, but

1418
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: then there's you, and it's like a total different thing

1419
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: because like of everything we've.

1420
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: Expressed, but I remember. The funniest part was you looked stunning,

1421
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: you look unbelievable, and then our friend Kristin Bartlett and

1422
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: you were in the same dress. No way, yes, do

1423
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: you remember? Yes? I think I'm in the same dress

1424
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: as a man anymore.

1425
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: I love that.

1426
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: It was really fun. I just remember, like, I think

1427
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: that was the first time ever I've been around like

1428
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: a ton of Yeah, that was my first big Words show.

1429
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: I guess, like, you don't really understand what the ecosystem

1430
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: of that is until you're actually there and you're like,

1431
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: oh wow, I mean.

1432
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: Do I like them? Yeah? I mean I liked them

1433
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: because I was going with like my cast and we

1434
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: all loved each other, and so it was like just

1435
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: a fun excuse to all be together. I think if

1436
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: I were just by myself, it might be a different thing,

1437
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: because I always feel like an outlier and an outsider.

1438
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 3: But when you're nominated, sure, but still even then, I'm like,

1439
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: this is so weird. Did I get caught in the

1440
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: fray of this? Like I should be at home in

1441
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: my pajamas watching this on TV. Strange to be in

1442
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: the audience.

1443
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: So it is weird though to watch it and it's

1444
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: a show. It's a show, like you're kind of just like,

1445
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's a show, Like we're watching them come

1446
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: out and do the bits and do the whole thing

1447
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: like it's a production. It's a production. Well, speaking of

1448
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: a ward shows June fifteenth, June. Have we said, I

1449
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: said on the Today Show, So we said the date,

1450
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: we said the date, We have said where it is,

1451
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: but there will be performance.

1452
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Oh god, I gotta be there.

1453
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 1: A pretty good thing if you were.

1454
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: There very People's Choice Awards, be there in person. No no, don't,

1455
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: obviously don't, but like I would just.

1456
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: Fix it for you, for you, we will, like can

1457
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: we say we're not.

1458
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: I would just come and like say hi and do

1459
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: a thing. And they're not going to win over single suit, Like,

1460
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: come on, let's be what do you.

1461
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: Mean it's such a funny sentence. I'm not gonna win

1462
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: over I'm not gonna win over a single suit.

1463
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: I know your feelings about that.

1464
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm only half of the voting committee. There's no

1465
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: other guy, and he loves GUARDI and I. Where is

1466
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: your show?

1467
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: A couple weeks ago, I did this weird thing where

1468
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: we all sang it Carnegie Hall like my husband saying,

1469
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: I sang I know. It was crazy. It was like

1470
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: this thing called the Piano concert, and my husband played

1471
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: the piano for me and I sang Guardinia and then

1472
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: I sang a song that I sang on this is us.

1473
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh cool. Yeah, we haven't even talked about only hope

1474
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: we even talked about only Wait, Taylor, your husband multi instrumentalist,

1475
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: does a lot of instruments.

1476
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: So cool, nothing like kind of plays like a little

1477
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: bit of everything that's guitar, piano.

1478
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh was it kind of over when you realized how

1479
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: talented he was, Like you probably were immediately attracted because

1480
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: of whatever. And then when someone is that good at music,

1481
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like full rap.

1482
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: It's full rap, absolutely, and then he's also just like

1483
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: the best person ever. Yeah, I really that.

1484
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: I doubt person. Wait ask about her line reading what

1485
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: you wanted to ask about the line and the gar seat.

1486
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: Bell, seatbelt. I mean, I understand that it's nothing, but

1487
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: you just tell Shane wants to put a seatbelt on

1488
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: and then.

1489
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: Right, But it was a very it was a very

1490
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: prissy you wait, yeah, very prissy. And I was like,

1491
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: how would he not know that's the most important thing?

1492
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: To do when you sit in a car put your.

1493
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: And then it was like, I mean that scene is

1494
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: so important because it's the first time we hear I

1495
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: can tell you, but then I have to kill you.

1496
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: Like for Jamie to say that is so informative about

1497
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: that character.

1498
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell you, but there's more than what

1499
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: meets the eye.

1500
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, many iconic lines in cinema. Just don't fall in

1501
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: love with me that and I am full of christ love.

1502
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah that was a for sure.

1503
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good. That had to be so good to

1504
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: be able to play that part too. After you just

1505
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: did like the most pious like I'm dying of cancer,

1506
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be in anyone's way. And

1507
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: then like and then you get to be like just

1508
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: like it's like a.

1509
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: Van into a giant wooden.

1510
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: Jesus, I don't forget the scene, the scene of you

1511
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: like praying like aggressively.

1512
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: I was like, this is another level.

1513
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: It's a great movie. Turn alone. Shout out Jenna Malone,

1514
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: my other Lydia Bennett, I see your sister. Uh we're

1515
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: in the Lydia about society. Oh yeah, Andrew and on

1516
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,839
Speaker 1: Fire Island would call me his Gennam.

1517
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: Malone's Yeah, you're his Jenna, you were his Lydia.

1518
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: Is it time? I think it's time time for I

1519
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. So I don't think so, honey.

1520
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Manity is this segment we do? We take one million too.

1521
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: That's grinding our ears. And I actually do have something.

1522
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: It's more practical in life. It's less of the culture.

1523
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: I do feel like we need to start putting where

1524
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: our money where our mouth is.

1525
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, this is kind of a call to action.

1526
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: I feel wow, there's a timer and everything. I'm very obsessed.

1527
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: Welcome to the BTS. And did you see bones three

1528
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: two one? He's always counted down. I always count down again? Insane?

1529
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: So professional.

1530
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: We're time bound here, tunneling in. This is Matt Rogers.

1531
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: I don't think so many time starts now.

1532
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Express lines at the supermarket

1533
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: if we're not going to use them.

1534
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: Oh so.

1535
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: If I see an express line at the Gelsons, at

1536
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: the at the whatever it is, and it says like

1537
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: eight arms or less and then it's dark, it's like,

1538
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: why do it then? Because it's what I'm saying. It's

1539
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: just like open the line up for other people. Then, like,

1540
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: let's stop pretending we care about those who aren't buying

1541
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: bulk if we're not going to care about them. Because

1542
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm standing there with one thing, something from the hot bar.

1543
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: What I do is I get my lunch every day

1544
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: from Glsons. It's the way I want to live my life. Okay,

1545
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't care what you you or you think about it.

1546
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: I go there. I want to buy one thing, which

1547
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: is the food on the tray.

1548
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 3: I go, I sit there.

1549
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm online for twenty minutes fifteen, and there's a perfectly

1550
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: good express line which I have never seen use.

1551
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, I.

1552
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: Have ever seen the express line use. In which case,

1553
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: why are you playing in our face? Five seconds? Have

1554
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: some respect for the those who are fru goal. That's

1555
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: one minute.

1556
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: I think I realized express lines might be like early

1557
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: ats culture, and we've just it's no longer of the time,

1558
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1559
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: The checkout has replaced express something self checkout is.

1560
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: Like toorally like up and running, like I think, like

1561
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: something's going on retail, not retail, but just like the

1562
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: shopping experience isn't a crisis of identity under attack? Is

1563
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: under attack because the shopping experience is under attack, especially

1564
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: a low culture.

1565
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: Number ninety four.

1566
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 3: The shopping experience is under attack.

1567
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: I think, like if you're competing with an e commerce

1568
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: a way of life of ordering things online, Like I

1569
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 2: think everybody who's running shops and stores is like, how

1570
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: do we make this interesting? You just have to think

1571
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: at any given time, like, if there's thirty people in

1572
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: a supermarket, at least five of those people are buying

1573
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 2: something with eight or just running in there for something,

1574
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: why would just put one of the cash register on

1575
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: express line.

1576
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: They're just enough people working in store.

1577
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: Now, you know that's what it is, because that's also

1578
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: markedly different. Yeah, understand, we're all feeling this. We're all

1579
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: feeling this.

1580
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: So sorry, no, it's okay. But I think that's it

1581
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: perfectly good. I don't think so honey.

1582
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel because I'm trying to keep that. I

1583
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey's light. But even that like really

1584
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: bugged me because I'm like, I'm there and I see

1585
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,440
Speaker 1: ability for it to be used and it's sitting there labeled,

1586
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: And also how thrilling as a cash register.

1587
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: To be beat beat beep, beep, beep.

1588
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: You're gone.

1589
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: It's like your day will probably move faster.

1590
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm thinking of not only myself and my community,

1591
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: which are the shoppers. I'm also thinking about the community

1592
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: behind the lace.

1593
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1594
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: Really, I want a better experience for everyone.

1595
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: Efficiency.

1596
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: Wow, So there we go, open the gates aka the

1597
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: lanes the lanes. Are you excited and galvanized to do

1598
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: your I don't think so.

1599
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: I have one that's like so behind the curve pop culturally,

1600
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: But I just find tried something an it I realized

1601
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't for me.

1602
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, great, So I'm excited to expectore this more.

1603
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: This is bowianks. I don't think so, honey. And this

1604
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: time starts now, I.

1605
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: Don't think so, honey. Love is Blind? Season six, This

1606
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: most current season, this this recent season. A lot of

1607
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 2: people having a lot to say about the disastrous scale

1608
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: of the season and how amazing it is. I was

1609
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: into it for three episodes and then I realized, Okay,

1610
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: there's something and this is not a knock on religion specifically,

1611
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: but there is like a Christian element to it.

1612
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: There's a Christian element to it. This is the only

1613
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: Christian media I'll watch. Saved, I watch.

1614
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: Remember, there's just something about it, like one of the

1615
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: women calls herself a patriot, and it took me out.

1616
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I love this country, but this woman was

1617
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm a conservative, I'm a patriot. And then it did

1618
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: take me out of it enough to be like, I'm

1619
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: so distracted. I was distracted for another episode and a

1620
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: half and I was like, I think I gotta tap out.

1621
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: So five seconds please, reader's case pop, this is finalist.

1622
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: Let me know if I should keep watching. But for now,

1623
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: I think for that reason, and that's what I meant,

1624
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: I think you're actually you're gonna be good. But people

1625
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: really are invested in this season.

1626
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: It's true.

1627
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: People talk about loves. We'll talk about Love is Blind

1628
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: a lot. I watched that first season with you.

1629
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: I've never seen an episode. I've never seen an episode. No,

1630
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't participate in Love is Blind, but this is

1631
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: I always say this about things, like I said this

1632
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: about Housewives for years, and then suddenly there I was

1633
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: like it became like a pretty like at least my

1634
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: personality right right, right, Like yeah that you just need

1635
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: you're right, we got you though. I mean here you

1636
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: are saying you watch at least three episodes. Yeah, I

1637
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: mean I watched the full first season. It's just something

1638
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: about I had no interest in going back, but something

1639
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: was so emphatically special about this season that everyone was like,

1640
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: you have to watch and I was like, okay, great,

1641
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm a little just like I don't know

1642
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: what my way in is with it, but it's not

1643
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: going to be through someone who refers to herself as

1644
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: a conservative patriots, as a patriot, which I just you know,

1645
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: it's which is like I know that that person exists

1646
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: out in the world and she is on these reality shows,

1647
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: but like something about like her leading with that like

1648
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: was a little bit like it took me out of

1649
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: out into the real world where I was like, I'm

1650
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: the reason I'm watching this is because of the Yeah,

1651
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: so anyway, see, but that's what that's oh so peak

1652
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: behind the curtain, the cameras went down. The room is

1653
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: too hot. So then we were talking about how sometimes

1654
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: discourse about like you know, pop culture things can start

1655
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: to mean more.

1656
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: It's like you go to those pop culture things in

1657
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 3: order to escape.

1658
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: The heaviness because it's frivolous, and so all of a

1659
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: sudden someone's like, I'm a conservative patriot and you're like oh,

1660
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm back in the real world. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

1661
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: and I'm swimming to the surface aerial style. Exact. All

1662
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: I want is my legs or you have your legs, right, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1663
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: All I want is my fin It's obviously been too

1664
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: long since I've seen it, so I did just go

1665
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: on the ride at disney World. The ride is kind

1666
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: of flop.

1667
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 3: I should have done I don't think so.

1668
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: Honey, the Little Mermaid right at Disneyland California Adventure. It

1669
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: sucks because can I tell you what they did? And

1670
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: this is the oak Mind virus they took out at

1671
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: the end, Ursula like dying violent. I think they thought

1672
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: that Ursula's death was violence against women. And I have

1673
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: to tell you she was an evil seeds. If I

1674
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: ever saw Ursula in person, coming from me, it's on site.

1675
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: She's getting punched because I know what she's capable of, murder, devastation,

1676
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: absolutely Faustian bargains. But I'm on this ride and literally

1677
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: Ursula is like the best part of the movie. But

1678
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: she's in two scenes of the ride, and then they

1679
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: used to have like the ride ends pretty abruptly with

1680
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: like the audio animatronics of like uh, see Eric and

1681
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: ms Mama mama. But they're like waving goodbye and and

1682
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: like you see like King Tryton like sort of half

1683
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: in the water, like saying goodbye to his baby girl.

1684
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: And then in the back you see Ursula like like

1685
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: kind of getting it in the water. They took that out.

1686
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, okay, so now two things. One,

1687
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a little baby girl, I'm wondering what happened,

1688
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: she's still running am uk. You need that signal there

1689
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: was accountability. Can I tell you something with Ursula? It's

1690
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: not cancel culture. It's accountability culture. She was doing and

1691
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: she got hers, and that's okay, that's okay. It's okay

1692
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: that we don't have Ursula in the seas anymore.

1693
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: She was a menace.

1694
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: She was a menace, and for that not to be

1695
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: depicted in the ride, I think is coddling kids. I

1696
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: think it's the woke mind virus. And I'm a conservative patriot.

1697
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: As a result of my experience on the Disneyland, then

1698
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: I know I should probably slay Okay, all right, so

1699
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: with that, it's now time.

1700
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey, Well, listen, you guys have

1701
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: done how many episodes of this.

1702
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: Almost literally almost four hundred.

1703
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 3: So I'm sure someone somewhere along the way has had this.

1704
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, but it's something that irks

1705
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: me to no end.

1706
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, and take on it. Yeah, it

1707
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: apart exactly, all right. This is Mandy Moore's I don't

1708
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: think so, honey. Her time starts now.

1709
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. People that take off their

1710
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: socks and or shoes on an airplane, oh they are

1711
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 3: you are heathens. We are in a tiny tin can

1712
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: on top of each other. The fact that you think

1713
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: that I want to think about your feet or see

1714
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: your feet or smell your feet is ridiculous.

1715
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Now.

1716
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: I get sometimes we're on long haul flights people want

1717
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: to like let the dogs out, but it is so

1718
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 3: disrespectful of yourself, of your neighbor. And the thing that

1719
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 3: I find most egregious is when people walk on their

1720
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 3: bare feet or their socks on the dirty floor and

1721
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: go to the throat, so sticky, sticky socks, and then

1722
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: you have to put them back in your shoes. I

1723
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: mean you should just burn them, burn the socks, burn

1724
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 3: your clothes, never go home. Cut your feet off, cut

1725
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 3: your feet off. I just like, I don't know what

1726
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: kind of people think that this is appropriate behavior, Like

1727
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 3: it is just chaos on flights now. People are in

1728
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: their pajamas, they're bringing pillows, they're taking their socks and

1729
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,440
Speaker 3: shoes off. It's disgusting.

1730
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: And that's one minute. Oh my god, thinks yes, because

1731
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: anytime I.

1732
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: See that on an airplane, I'm like, how were you

1733
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 3: raised this question?

1734
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

1735
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: Is that okay?

1736
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: Take your shoes off, but keep your socks on.

1737
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 3: If we're like we're talking like we're on a long

1738
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 3: haul flight, how long is long.

1739
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: I put my shoes back on if I'm going to

1740
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: the bathroom, Well, yeah, can I make sure that everyone

1741
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: knows I don't know the the socks, but in my seat,

1742
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: I take my shoes off, but please keep the socks.

1743
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's okay. It's like when I

1744
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 3: see people raw dog and on the floor, but even

1745
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: going to the bathroom in their socks, I'm just.

1746
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: Like, no, you're going to get pissed on the him

1747
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: your sock.

1748
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: God knows what. Like it's I have.

1749
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: News for you about socks. We immediately absorbed the liquid

1750
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: and then that liquid is on your foot. Right, So

1751
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: if you think that your sock is a protective barrier

1752
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: between you and someone else's.

1753
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 3: You got another thing coming.

1754
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe the phrase have you slipped a shoe

1755
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: off on a plane for sure?

1756
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're.

1757
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,480
Speaker 3: Not hip, yes, but like I'm also aware of my surroundings,

1758
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: like I'm not going to do it if I'm like

1759
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 3: sitting next to someone and I have any qualms that

1760
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: like maybe it's a stinky sock and situation. Are you

1761
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: a Delta girl. I'm an American girl because my dad

1762
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: was an American. Oh well, there you go, your legacy. Yeah,

1763
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 3: so like a family thing.

1764
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: I did an American flight for one of the London

1765
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: trips for work. Not bad, and I will say I

1766
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 2: was like, this is quite nice.

1767
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: That was my dad's route.

1768
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: Wow, it was.

1769
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 3: It was Lax to London. His like his his like

1770
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: last few years. Whoa Yeah, So then.

1771
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: Flying was a big deal to him because well because

1772
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: he was up there all the time. But also once

1773
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: you do LX to London a few times, anything is possible.

1774
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: For sure.

1775
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: That's a long strap.

1776
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,919
Speaker 2: And I imagine like if you're your father is a pilot,

1777
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 2: you can't be a nervous fire no.

1778
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 3: Never. I love it.

1779
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. And that's how you feel.

1780
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: You can occupy this space of authority of the skies

1781
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,440
Speaker 1: where you can say, what is the patrol? You are

1782
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: like an air marshal.

1783
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a glorified air marshal, self appointed.

1784
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: Self appointed. This is all going on.

1785
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 3: I could, like citizens arrest people for taking their socks

1786
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: off on the plane.

1787
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: It's clear you would. This is all going in the musical.

1788
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Use is all going to the musical.

1789
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're warning to do some casting, Like

1790
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: I think there is something to them. There is a

1791
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: meta thing here where you're like, I want to get

1792
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: out of my own jukebox musical.

1793
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's more to me than.

1794
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: There's more to me than my songs. But then by

1795
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: the end you realize, oh, but I really am appreciative

1796
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: of what my music part.

1797
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 3: Of my story.

1798
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: You're a part of your story. Yeah, literally, I'm in

1799
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: Like it's The musical starts with little Mandy like on

1800
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: a plane, like looking out the window, and what is

1801
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: she singing? She's singing, she says, singing. She is leaving

1802
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: a place where she used to live, and she's like, oh,

1803
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: missing you can.

1804
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: This is the first thought, well, lax to London, would

1805
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: you go on that route? Sometimes No, but we can okay,

1806
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: so we can't pretend it's maybe trying my best Los Angeles,

1807
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: which is like, really good. I'm gonna tell you I'm

1808
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: a fan, and it's like, first of all, it's a

1809
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: great like this town song. It's one of the best

1810
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: LA songs.

1811
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: I really do mean to one. Closer is Guardinia at

1812
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: from closure is Guardinia.

1813
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: But like, but I think little Mandy singing I'm trying

1814
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: my best, a very adult, mature song for her to

1815
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: be like six years old.

1816
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: You can get reprised at the very end.

1817
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 3: You love a reprise.

1818
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: I love a reprise. You love a reprise. You did

1819
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: two of them, Entangled. You couldn't get enough of this ship.

1820
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: She kept asking for her life to begin. She kept

1821
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: asking for her life to begin. Well, it began, Rapunzel.

1822
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: But I think you were annoyed. I'm not annoyed.

1823
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: You were upset with her bundle. You were like, oh

1824
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: my god, it began.

1825
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: No, that's not that's not what I mean. Donna Murphrey,

1826
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: did you ever meet.

1827
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, god, legend, what a legend like?

1828
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: And I mean this in the best way, like a

1829
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: true like one of our great like minxes to me,

1830
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: like just a gorgeous woman. If you can call Stephen

1831
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: Sondheim Steve, you're a legend, You're a you are a legend.

1832
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: She called that man Steve that they did that pandemic

1833
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: tribute to Steven Sondheim. Do you remember that?

1834
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1835
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was just Donna Murphy like at her zoom,

1836
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: like happy Birthday Steve, And I was just like, fuck, yes,

1837
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: this is this rocks, this rocks like that is like

1838
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: a woman. I would love to hear her Guardiania. I

1839
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: would love to hear Donno m that her bottle would

1840
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: be spinning at ninety miles an hour.

1841
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: I love her song Entangled. Everyon is so good, so good.

1842
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: She really gave it everything.

1843
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 3: And also I feel like the character kind of looks

1844
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: like her too.

1845
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh interesting do that don't they Well obviously with her puzel,

1846
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: it's like they had to give her punzel, but don't

1847
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: they do that, like they sort of try to run

1848
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and your stuff. Have they done that? No,

1849
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: they had a drawer pinzel. They couldn't put a little

1850
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore in now. But she gets many more hair

1851
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 1: by the end.

1852
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: At the end she did, I was like, I have

1853
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 3: that haircut.

1854
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

1855
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: When her hair gets cut and gets adults, it's very

1856
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 3: like how to Deal Era, Oh my god, Sarah Destin books,

1857
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Alison Janny, Oh that's another one.

1858
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1859
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: I still occasionally like run into her at events and stuff,

1860
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like the fact that I didn't know who c. J.

1861
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: Craig was when it was she played my mom and

1862
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 3: had a deal amazing, And I just remember like she

1863
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 3: was doing West Wing and she was, you know, had

1864
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: like her summer hiatus, and she came and did this movie,

1865
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 3: and then like halfway through the movie she got nominated

1866
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: for an Emmy, and like we all sent her flowers

1867
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 3: and stuff, but I had no idea. And then like

1868
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 3: years later, of course, like Devout Where the West Way.

1869
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, fuck, it's one of those ones

1870
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 1: that like it'll always be good front.

1871
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 3: To back, oh classic, like number one show for me, Love.

1872
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: And truly like one of those performances that's like pretty

1873
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,919
Speaker 1: much only one person could do it.

1874
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: It feels that way.

1875
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like that's always my

1876
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: rubric for like should something like win an Oscar or

1877
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: like be like have the stamp for approval of Like

1878
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: this thing is like could you see anyone else doing it? Also,

1879
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Jenny has that like five or six times photo. Yes,

1880
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: she is one of those like she's just like it

1881
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 1: feels right no matter what it is, like character actress

1882
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: but also very idiosyncratic, identifiable brand, but also like can

1883
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: do it all.

1884
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, effortless. Yes, whatever she brings to a role. You're right,

1885
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: you can't imagine anyone else.

1886
01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like you gotta Watchrap Dead Gorgeous again and

1887
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: Ellen Barkin. It's doesn't get better than that, doesn't get better,

1888
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't get a picture of that most smartest.

1889
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Smartest doesn't get better than this episode. Dandy, Thank you

1890
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: so much.

1891
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for coming all the way out

1892
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: to Los Angeles. I know it wasn't just for this,

1893
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 3: but I'm so honored you made time in your schedule

1894
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 3: for this.

1895
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: Guys, of course, literally, I mean we can't say enough

1896
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: as you can probably tell, just like, congrats on everything

1897
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: and having an impact the way that you have. I mean,

1898
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: like you're the best, and we're such fans and guess

1899
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: what we're going to exchange numbers yea, and watch this

1900
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: space for the Cultural Awards. Yes you might hear this,

1901
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: and we end every episode with the song a Life

1902
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: scrdliah Lies make Love. If you want to hear more

1903
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: of that, listen to the actual song sung by the

1904
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: person in front of us, or check out the Cultural Awards.

1905
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 3: Bye Bye, MHM.