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Speaker 2: It's a five star matchup because we're.

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Speaker 3: In We're here, good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well,

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Speaker 3: that's good us too.

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Speaker 4: Our number two here on the Drive West Shooler Matt

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Speaker 4: Williamson talking all things Steelers and Lions to get you

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Speaker 4: ready for Sunday four twenty five at Ford Field in Detroit, Michigan. Matt,

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Speaker 4: let's spend the block here. I talked a little bit

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Speaker 4: about Lions offense, those dangerous playmakers against the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 4: Where's it start for the Steelers offense? A couple good weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: DK Metcalf has really come alive. Aaron Rodgers has really

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Speaker 4: come alive. We know that this is a Detroit defense

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Speaker 4: that plays a certain way, has some dudes, but also

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Speaker 4: has some key absences, much like the Steelers right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Where's their secondary?

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Speaker 4: If you're looking at the Steelers offense, where do you

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Speaker 4: think they can cut their teeth? Where do you think

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Speaker 4: they have some matchup advantages against this line?

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Speaker 2: Well, Hutchinson's a guy to worry about.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the best way to start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's their best player. He's a premier

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Speaker 2: defensive end, yes, and they'll move him around, but he's

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Speaker 2: more of He'll probably come from Rogers right against Falton,

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Speaker 2: who more often. But I wonder, you know, as well

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Speaker 2: as Cook played, would I put my stud against the

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Speaker 2: unproven guy? You know, so I'm curious how much he

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Speaker 2: alignes on each shore. But either way. Mohammed on the

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Speaker 2: other side, is more of a designated pass rusher type.

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Speaker 2: But he's got a lot of sacks too, so they'll

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Speaker 2: get after the quarterback. But all starts with Hutchinson a

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Speaker 2: thousand percent. Yeah, I mean he's a.

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Speaker 4: Very, very he I know we mentioned this, I think

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Speaker 4: maybe Wednesday or yesterday, but if he would have stayed

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Speaker 4: healthy last year, he would have likely won the Defensive

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Speaker 2: The day he got hurt, he was that was when

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Speaker 2: the voting was. He would have won.

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Speaker 3: He was the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he's been that type of player. So now if

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Speaker 2: again this kind is back to like the sool conversation,

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Speaker 2: no matter what, if Cook's struggling against Mohammad and you

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Speaker 2: got to help him, is Troy ready to do that alone?

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Speaker 2: You know? Like maybe I'm not saying.

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Speaker 3: Enough bullets in your holster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I'm super high on Foulton and

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Speaker 2: he's gonna have plenty of one on one reps against

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Speaker 2: Hutch But it's not gonna be like Seoul, where I

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Speaker 2: don't care who that dude is.

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Speaker 3: You got him?

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Speaker 2: I mean he's six. Yeah, so that part interests me.

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Speaker 2: Jack Campbell's has become a great player or borderline great

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Speaker 2: player on the second level. He's their leader. We talked

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Speaker 2: to Missy about Queen. That's Campbell's, you know, a big

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Speaker 2: time way too. He's playing better than Queen. He's playing

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Speaker 2: better than just about every linebacker but the secondary he

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Speaker 2: used to be strength. I mean had a first round picking. Arnold.

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Speaker 2: Branch is a phenomenal slat slash safety. Joseph is an

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Speaker 2: exceptional safety that no one ever talks about. And all

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Speaker 2: those dudes are out, you know, they're playing some guys

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Speaker 2: I mean Arthur Malette and you know people like that

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Speaker 3: Is Joseph for the year like Branch, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, but I don't think he's available for this one.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's been out for a little while, so

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Speaker 2: I think it's not a particularly good defense as currently

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Speaker 2: good things because everything else is pretty rough. Now. I

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Speaker 2: think you can run on them. But I'm curious. Are

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Speaker 2: the Steelers going to try to shorten this game, make

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Speaker 2: it somewhat of a rock fight battle it out? I

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Speaker 2: play this game like you have to get the thirty points.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. Yeah, this is not

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Speaker 3: it is not a rock fight type game.

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Speaker 4: I mean just it's is like even with Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know on that mentality, I think it's that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's that same kind of to use a

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Speaker 4: but you gotta hit the target more often than you

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Speaker 3: You're gonna give up some explosives.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna score some points, but you you gotta you

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Speaker 4: gotta answer the bell. They're gonna land some hay Makers.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna land some hay Makers. Who's got more juice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they don't view it up. We'll punt

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Speaker 3: Game almost almost impossible to do against, right.

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Speaker 2: Because they're gonna have big plays, They're gonna consistently move football,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna score points. So that part I'm interested in.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this, but I do think it really

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Speaker 2: they want to stay in their base as much as.

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Speaker 3: They only want four dbs on the field.

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Speaker 2: Of Yeah, and now, the Steelers don't play eleven I

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Speaker 2: they don't know what they're doing in eleven. And their

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Speaker 4: I believe, so, like close to forty or something like that,

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's the approach, and as we come out

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Speaker 2: Scantling as good as the tight end that's going to

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Speaker 3: Probably not, But it is a better way to attack

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Speaker 2: Right and get to those thirty points.

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Speaker 4: I certainly think that's fair, as you and I laid

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Speaker 4: you and I know this. Any true contending team in

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Speaker 4: they can beat you in multiple ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just be it's not.

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Speaker 3: This is the script and it has to stick to it.

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Speaker 2: And even yeah, somebody's gonna some South pod is going

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Speaker 4: Even a team like the Eagles last year who won

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Speaker 4: I'll do the self deprecating thing here. You got to

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Speaker 4: be able to win a game thirteen to nine, and

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Speaker 4: you got to be able to win a game thirty

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Speaker 4: three to twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really think this is the latter.

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Speaker 4: Well to speak to that. Only three times this year

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Speaker 4: but since then, in October in Kansas City, they scored seventeen.

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Speaker 4: you look at their last handful of games, thirty four

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Speaker 4: twenty four, thirty seven, thirty four, thirty eight to fifty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they.

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Speaker 4: In all likelihood are going to score at least twenty

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Speaker 3: Chance to win.

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Speaker 2: If it's Denver's defense, it's Houston's defense, I would still

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Speaker 2: pick them to get the twenty four plus. I mean,

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Speaker 2: can't remember if we went over this or not either,

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He's like, well, how do they so many losses?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all their losses are good losses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they play in LA at Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, well, they play in the Artist Division.

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Speaker 2: They were first play schedule, and they did battle with

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Speaker 3: I mean Minnesota is the only you know, so non.

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Speaker 2: Game they lost, right, they didn't lose the Raiders and

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Speaker 4: Sure, it is funny, Yeah, but yeah, they they are, man,

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Speaker 4: They're They're dangerous. That's That's just what I keep coming

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Speaker 2: Maybe is what worries me the most about this matchup.

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Speaker 2: And but you mentioned to start the show about what's

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Speaker 2: for this game? And by no means am I saying

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Speaker 2: the Steelers will punt this one. But let's say herbig,

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Speaker 2: if he's truly a fifty to fifty, do you play

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Speaker 2: the two divisions, for the two divisional games? Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then maybe in the playoffs or I mean, I do

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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys that are truly questionable, will they

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Speaker 3: It's a great question and a whole listen.

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Speaker 4: That's always part of the equation this time of year

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Speaker 2: Every team's goal is how can we win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Week sixteen games. A lot of important, good games this week.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: A massive Week sixteen slate begins on Saturday and rolls

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Speaker 3: And an important game on Monday night as well.

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Speaker 4: Matt Williamson, that road road is narrow, and it's the

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Speaker 4: most wonderful time of the year. College football playoff begins

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Speaker 4: at eight o'clock tonight Norman between the Sooners and the

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Speaker 2: A quick question about that that game from a Steeler

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Speaker 4: This is an interesting like you and I could probably

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Speaker 4: If you want more, if you're convinced that this is

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Speaker 2: We want three top ten quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: But unless it's Fernando Mendoza, I don't think any of

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Speaker 4: It's a big one for him, Matt because, like I said,

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's what this line. This line is is like, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if this line if they played this game,

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Speaker 4: I learned they're still a playoff team, and they might

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Speaker 4: still good. I might like, they can still take the

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Speaker 2: But I don't know the Washington is that much worse off.

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Speaker 4: But it also strikes me as the game that kind

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Speaker 4: then Saturday and night, Matt, A great one with big implications.

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Speaker 4: Eight twenty Saturday Night, I'm gonna be like the SpongeBob

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have the.

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Speaker 4: I think that we've seen some high three hundreds for

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Speaker 3: Is the cheapest ticket of Man, that's those Bleeds maybe.

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Speaker 4: It's a They're gonna be nuts there at Soldier Field

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Speaker 2: There last time the Bears mattered in at Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Like we talked about with Missy, I mean that Detroit

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Speaker 3: That place will shake to the ground.

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Speaker 4: It's like the way Orchard Park is now in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Every piece of grass and asphalt turns into tailgates space

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Speaker 4: Might be the best atmosphere of the season to this point.

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Speaker 3: Half, point and a half Bears are favored.

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Speaker 2: I'd like, I'll take the home team I think Chicago's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel strong about it. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be one of those close

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Speaker 4: games between two rivals, and you know, winter weather in Chicago.

441
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Speaker 4: I'll give the Bears the advantage of the home field atmosphere.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would just take the home team.

443
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Speaker 3: To push to push him over the line. Yeah, I'm

444
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Speaker 3: with you on that one.

445
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Speaker 4: On to Sunday in Cleveland, the Browns look to continue

446
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Speaker 4: to roll at Huntington Bank Field there on the Lake

447
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 4: in downtown Cleveland. Ten and a half points, second biggest

448
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Speaker 4: spread of the weekend.

449
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Speaker 3: The Bills are favored over Ten's a lot against that

450
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Speaker 3: against that Brown's defense. It is, but have they done

451
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Speaker 3: the Cancun on three thats today?

452
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Speaker 2: Exactly what I was going to say too, And they

453
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Speaker 2: get We're.

454
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Speaker 4: Gonna get Miles Garrett at least one more sack this year,

455
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Speaker 4: and that's really all that matters.

456
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Speaker 2: And this Shador's first fourth start of his career. I mean, like,

457
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Speaker 2: is he gonna be able to elevate people in a

458
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Speaker 2: game that the Bills have to have. I think I'll

459
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Speaker 2: lay the points. Maybe weather makes it close and the

460
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Speaker 2: Bills control the whole thing. But weather doesn't seem to

461
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Speaker 2: slow the Bills down, so it doesn't slow Josh Allen.

462
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Speaker 4: Though, No, no, definitely not. I'm I'm completely with you

463
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Speaker 4: on that one. In Dallas, the Chargers look to continue

464
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Speaker 4: despite a lot of reasons not to win games. Dallas

465
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Speaker 4: a two and a half point home favorite against Herbert

466
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Speaker 4: and Harbaugh and company.

467
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Speaker 2: I question the Chargers every week, and I pick against

468
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: them every week, and I've been wrong a lot, and

469
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Speaker 2: I'm still gonna do it. I still think their own

470
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Speaker 2: line is a real problem, and I think Dallas scores

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Speaker 2: on anybody, I mean in their building. I know they've

472
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Speaker 2: any to play for really anymore, but I think that

473
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Speaker 2: Dallas is prettydarn good.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right.

475
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Speaker 4: They just worry me again as the team that like

476
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Speaker 4: has had so many roller coaster up and downs this year,

477
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Speaker 4: and they're and they're checked out. I think I think

478
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the two and a half points.

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Speaker 3: Of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I contally understand that.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

482
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Speaker 4: I've been waiting for them to fall apart, and they've

483
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Speaker 4: found every way to scratch and claw and continue to win.

484
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Speaker 3: Maybe they lose this one, but I'll take the points.

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Speaker 2: I was asked the other day is like, and the

486
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Speaker 2: question asker knew that the answer was no, could should

487
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Speaker 2: Herbert get MVP consideration? I'm like, no, But if I

488
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Speaker 2: had to put a ballot together of my top five.

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Speaker 3: Picks, it's a fair question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, I mean it's not outlandish.

491
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Speaker 4: If it's the Heisman Trophy ceremony. Yeah, and you know

492
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Speaker 4: a hand he's invited, three four five guys get invited

493
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Speaker 4: to the to the ceremony.

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Speaker 2: He's invited, right, I mean, considering what he's had to

495
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Speaker 2: overcome and how important he's been to his teams and

496
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Speaker 2: the hits he's taken and the pressure he's been under.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Matt.

498
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Speaker 4: In one of the what'll probably be dullest games of

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Speaker 4: the weekend in Nashville, the Pat Mahomes and playoff list

500
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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs head to Music City, where they are

501
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Speaker 4: three point favorites on the road.

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Speaker 2: In Tennessee, Tennessee's still playing hard and wards showing improvement

503
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Speaker 2: and they're running the football. But Minshew's not, you know,

504
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Speaker 2: like Brady Cook's going to start this week again. Yeah,

505
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Speaker 2: Minshew's not. You know, one of those things.

506
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Speaker 3: He's a viable NFL back.

507
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna be in the league as long as he wants.

508
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Speaker 2: I wonder how much is like Kelsey and Chris Jones

509
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Speaker 2: gonna play going forward. I mean, they gonna be spot players,

510
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

511
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Speaker 4: See the Kelsey stuff that had all the Chiefs fans

512
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Speaker 4: bugging out this week On on on the New Heights

513
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: podcast that he does with his brother Jason, they were

514
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: talking about the Mahomes injury, obviously, and he kept referencing

515
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, the Chiefs, the Chiefs not hopefully when he's

516
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Speaker 4: back for the Chiefs, hopefully the Chiefs can. And everyone's like,

517
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Speaker 4: he's not saying us, He's not saying us. See, this

518
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: means he's done. He knows he's done. He's not saying us,

519
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Speaker 4: He's saying the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's coming back.

521
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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he would. I just wonder what

523
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Speaker 2: he does for like this game and the rest of

524
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Speaker 2: his the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: This is a weird one. I might take the points

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Speaker 3: with Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: I just is Kansas Is Kansas City gonna be the

528
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 4: we haven't been in this position in so long, and

529
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 4: everything's just gonna go so flat. No Mahomes, no playoffs.

530
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Speaker 4: We've been in the AFC Championship Game in the Super

531
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Speaker 4: Bowl for seven straight years.

532
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Speaker 2: They have a lot of line injuries.

533
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Speaker 4: We're old, we're beat up. We've played a lot more

534
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Speaker 4: football than everybody else.

535
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Speaker 2: For next year, we'll come back strong with pat and

536
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I might take Tennessee plus three. If I could get

538
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Speaker 3: that up to like three and a half, I would.

539
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Speaker 3: I'd really consider it.

540
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Speaker 2: Hey, Frankly, if I were Andy Reid, I might start

541
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Speaker 2: treating this like a bowl game, you know, bowl game practices,

542
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: where you play all.

543
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Speaker 3: Your game, get some freshman sophomore exactly.

544
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

545
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: In Miami South Beach, the Bengals had to face the

546
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Speaker 4: Dolphins in the battle of which team wants this more.

547
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Speaker 2: I guess I was high on both these teams till

548
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: last week.

549
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Speaker 3: Till last week.

550
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cincinnati four and a half point favorites in South Beach.

551
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting the Texas kid, Quinn yours. Yeah, Wolf,

552
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Speaker 2: I'll guess I'll bet on Borrow.

553
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Speaker 3: I think so. But man, something feels off there too.

554
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Speaker 2: I know I'd kind of like to bet against both

555
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Speaker 2: these teams right now.

556
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Speaker 4: I I'm with you the over unders forty seven and

557
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: a half, which feels a little high.

558
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Speaker 3: I might just I might just good whether I guess, yeah, true,

559
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: both of these teams seem so checked out. I know

560
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 3: Miami at this point.

561
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's one of those that's the grinch. I'm

562
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 4: not touching it. With a thirty nine and a half

563
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: foot poll. In New Orleans, the Jets had to face

564
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: the Saints. This one could have draft pick draft order implications,

565
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: but that's about it.

566
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Speaker 2: I tell you the bet I made yesterday. I should

567
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Speaker 2: tell our fans.

568
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think you told me. You told us

569
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Speaker 4: about the Houston Texans won a couple of weeks ago.

570
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Speaker 2: Weeks ago, shocked to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.

571
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Speaker 2: I know that sounds bonkers, but if you look at

572
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Speaker 2: the same of the candidates, it's such a terrible year.

573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: The Saints have won two or three in.

574
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Speaker 3: A row a Mecchabuka.

575
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Speaker 2: He's really falling down. That's falling down. Yeah. My point is, though,

576
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Speaker 2: the Saints have three very winnable games to end this thing.

577
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Speaker 2: If they it's like, I think it's like Jets, Raiders, Falcons.

578
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Speaker 3: And this is the time of year when those awards

579
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Speaker 3: are won.

580
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Speaker 2: If they win out and it paid sixty and one,

581
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Speaker 2: that's the thing, you know. It's like I didn't I

582
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: like Dalahalla right. I mean, he's playing really well. I

583
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Speaker 2: think they win this game the Jets on I take.

584
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Speaker 2: I mean, if the Jets played the Raiders. I picked

585
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Speaker 2: the Jets.

586
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 4: The Saints win their last three games. If they win

587
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: two of the three, and he looks the part doing it, I.

588
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna be in the conversation. It's a terrible year for.

589
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Speaker 3: It, Matt. All games are created equal, but some are

590
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: more equal than others.

591
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

592
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 4: Someone a couple of you tweeted me. By the way,

593
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Speaker 4: I got the wrong George Orwell book. That's not from

594
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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four, that's from Animal Farm. I apologize. I'm

595
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Speaker 4: not an English I'm not an English Lit major like

596
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Speaker 4: Matt Williamson over here animal Farm. Okay, thank you for

597
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 4: the thank you for the reminders on Twitter, the other

598
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: George Orwell book, for these individual awards. All games are

599
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: created equal, but some are more equal than others. And

600
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Speaker 4: this it's like the highs.

601
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Speaker 2: You know, Quarterbacks almost always win it.

602
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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks almost always win it, And like for those guys

603
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Speaker 4: that win the Heisman, what you do in November is

604
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: a lot more important than what you do in September. Yeah,

605
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: what you do in December is a lot more important

606
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Speaker 4: than what you do in October.

607
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Speaker 3: I don't hate that.

608
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: I brought it up and people on Twitter are like, wow, Dark,

609
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: I'll get it over him.

610
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: No, he's miss man.

611
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: I think if Shuck wins the last.

612
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: One, now, Dart could have a couple of strong Who

613
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: is the betting favorite right now in Vegas? Is it

614
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 4: a Mecca, Buka maybe holding on?

615
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I think it's Tech McMillan. Okay, I think they're the

616
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: top two, but Abuka has done nothing for a while.

617
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it's any of the backs. It's Oh,

618
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: Travon Henderson's coming on strong. I got some feedback on

619
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: that he's coming on strong. His odds are getting better

620
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: and better and better.

621
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Speaker 4: Where it's at that would scare me Travon Henderson is

622
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Speaker 4: number one now a Mecca Abuka, then Teed McMillan, then

623
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Speaker 4: Jackson Dart, then Tyler Shuck. Okay, so your boys, your

624
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: boys in the top five. Yeah, you got him at

625
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: sixteen to one. Yeah, he's down to twelve to one

626
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 4: right now. It's moving in the list of Hey, how

627
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 4: about this, Let's keep an eye on that for the

628
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: next couple of weeks ago and every Friday.

629
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Speaker 3: Let's revisit you so easy.

630
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Speaker 2: If he wins out, if he wins like his last

631
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Speaker 2: five games, hey, it's a chance.

632
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Speaker 3: I don't hate your logic there.

633
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: And those are also the kind of bets that I

634
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Speaker 4: like to make, the ones that the ones that off

635
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: really really well down the stretch. Speaking of Jackson Dart

636
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: and those g men, they host the Minnesota Vikings one

637
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: o'clock at MetLife Stadium. The Vikings two and a half

638
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: point road favorites.

639
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: I'll take the Vikes, but I'm not exactly sure that

640
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: you know McCarthy's over the hump and back to playing.

641
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not either, but I think they at least

642
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: they're in the bowl game thing.

643
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: They've got some stuff to play for for the future.

644
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know the Giants do with I know

645
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: the Giants do with dark, but they're down basically every

646
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: other key. I mean, and they they have just they

647
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: feel like they have fallen off the face of the

648
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: earth these last couple of weeks, the Giants.

649
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Speaker 2: I think so, I mean, the Vikings best day is

650
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: better in the Giants day.

651
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it's particularly close. The Vikings best day.

652
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: They can beat a team like the Lions. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

653
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: I think two and a half.

654
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: I'll definitely lay that with Minnesota in what will be

655
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: a pretty tame atmosphere there.

656
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean, East Ruth a pretty good deal on tickets.

657
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: Matt a huge one in the NFC South.

658
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Speaker 4: Might not quite as sexy is three verse eleven and

659
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: three last night, but similar implications.

660
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Speaker 2: It's funny we do a six pack on my show

661
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: as we feature six games, and you got the six

662
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: pretty quick this week, Like I guess we have to

663
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: do this. We got the division title, but one.

664
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: Of the most important in terms of playoff informations. It

665
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: is between two seven and seven teams, but somebody has

666
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: to win that division. In Charlotte, the Panthers host the Bucks,

667
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: where Tampa Bay is a three point road favorite.

668
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm taking Tampa reluctantly. This is another one, kind of

669
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: like the Chargers, right. I just keep thinking Tampa is

670
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: going to get back to being a playoff looking team

671
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: and they don't know.

672
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: I just trust them more than the Panthers.

673
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: That's the thing Panthers are to get. I mean they

674
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: lost the Saints. Well, both these teams just lost in

675
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: the division. But yeah, I mean I'll take the box.

676
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if they should be favored.

677
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't like the line.

678
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

679
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: If it's two and a half, I'd lay it with Tampa.

680
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: If it was three and a half, I'd take the

681
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: points with Carolina. It's a good line by Vegas. I'll

682
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 4: lay them with Tampa. Still, I'm gonna air on the

683
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: side of the Buccaneers, the team that's been to the

684
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: playoffs five straight years.

685
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: And I'm just looking like Godwin's back and Evans is

686
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: back and.

687
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: You know, Matt both into the four o'clock slate, four

688
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: o'clock hour of games now, uh, this game. Both of

689
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: these teams are going to the playoffs, but first round byes,

690
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: divisional titles, all of that still on the line. In

691
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: a big one at Mile High Stadium, where the Broncos

692
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: are three and a half point home favorites over the

693
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars.

694
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Who just signed Jacobe Meers yesterday. He's been you know,

695
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: look good in black and gold on he would have,

696
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: but he really completed things for them. They've made a

697
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: noticeable turnaround on offense since he's been around. Thirty work. Guy,

698
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm believing in Jacksonville, but I am taking Denver.

699
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: You gonna lay the three and a half? Yeah, see,

700
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna take the three and a half.

701
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: That's another one of those. I know, if it moved,

702
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: i'd lay them, but at three and a half, I

703
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: don't love it's over three over a field goal.

704
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: I think Denver such a brutal place to play. It

705
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: is one note.

706
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: There are another one of those legit good atmospheres.

707
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure. Yeah. I can't figure out if Jacksonville's

708
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: oh lines good or not because when they play really

709
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: good pass rushes, they let up a lot of pressure.

710
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: But when they play average or below, they do a

711
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: really good job. But this is you know, like almost

712
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: all their sacks are against like Houston this year. You know, yes,

713
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: but that's who they're playing you know. I mean, they're

714
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: playing a team that is one of the best pass

715
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: rushing teams out there. So I'm gonna bet on that,

716
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: and I like what Nix has done lately.

717
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: That will be one that we will definitely have in

718
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: the That's a really good game in the in the

719
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: booth for the first quarter until the until the Steelers

720
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: kick off again. They absolutely could, absolutely could, Matt. The

721
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: lowest get in price of the weekend is in Arizona,

722
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: where for just twelve dollars, for just twelve bucks, you

723
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: can see the Cardinals host the Falcons.

724
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: How could you not go for twelve bucks?

725
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Is it Arizona?

726
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't go to Penn games in nineteen eighty two.

727
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: See though, this is they were a buck. This is

728
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: one of those things Pirate Game. I do give them

729
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: credit for this. Like this time of year in Phoenix,

730
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: you can find a lot of other In Glendale, you

731
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 4: can find a lot of other things to do than

732
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: go sit in a stadium for four hours. Oh yeah,

733
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: the weather's still nice. Yeah, there's a million things to

734
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: do outdoors. It's like I get a chuckle sometimes when

735
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: people when fan bases play that card, like oh yeah, no,

736
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: one goes to our games because there's so.

737
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: Much to do.

738
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go surfing instead. Like, yeah, I San Diego.

739
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: I hear that a lot from like Tom and some

740
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: of our pit buddies, Like, yeah, there's nothing to do

741
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: in WVU. Of course, you guys sell tickets. There's plenty

742
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: to do here in Pittsburgh. Like I'm like, buddy, this

743
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: is not Southern California. Okay, as much as I love

744
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: Western Pennsylvania, let's not act like it's Florida or Southern

745
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: California or Glendale, Arizona.

746
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: In December, I.

747
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Want to go to the mountains. I want to go

748
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: to the beach. Or do I want to watch Cardinals terrible?

749
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

750
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: Two t with losing records, Atlanta three point road favorites.

751
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: I guess I'll take points. I kind of think they're

752
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: both on the same tier.

753
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: I think i'll lay them with it. I feel like

754
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: we're going against each other more this week than we

755
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: usually do.

756
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: I just think Arizona's kind of due to win. Maybe

757
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: I don't think they're horrible.

758
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: I think Atlanta just Atlanta just has some more guys

759
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: with pride.

760
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Better players. Yeah, I think like Marvin Harrison's coming back though,

761
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I don't feel strong about it.

762
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: They are due to win, though, You're right, win only

763
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: done that once in like their last eleven or twelve games.

764
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: Matt in Houston, your AFC favorite and a team that

765
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: is playing some of the best football of anybody in

766
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: the National Football League right now, the Hot Texans host

767
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: the Antarctica Raiders and a.

768
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: I don't care what spread, I'm not picking Raider. You couldn't.

769
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: You couldn't probably have two teams heading more in the

770
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: opposite direction of these two right now, and the line

771
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: reflects it. It is by far the biggest spread of

772
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: the weekend. Houston a fourteen and a half point favorite

773
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: in a game where the over under is only thirty

774
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: seven and a half. Now it's the lowest over under

775
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: of the weekend and the highest point spread of the week.

776
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: This is harder math than it should be, but so

777
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: that that means the projected total.

778
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: Is like twenty eight to ten twenty.

779
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: No, that's eighteen points bread.

780
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: Twenty seven to thirteen.

781
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: So they're they're projecting. That's why I'm trying to go.

782
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: Twenty four to ten.

783
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: What's the Raiders projected total would be like thirteen. I

784
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: don't even know they get there. I would definitely take

785
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: the under right.

786
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's still unknown if Gino's gonna return or

787
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: if they're gonna ride with Kenny Pickett again. They got

788
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: a backyard brawl decision to make there.

789
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm shocked at over fourteen, but if you still could.

790
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: Be a healthy pat, it could be a healthy Patrick Mahomes,

791
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: and I think I'd still this is one of those

792
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: I'd like to buy it down or tease it with

793
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: something to get it below get it to thirteen and

794
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: a half.

795
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, get it below fourteen. But I'd still lay

796
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: the fourteen.

797
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: There's no way I could put money on the Raider,

798
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: no chance. There's no way they're not playing with pride.

799
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: And then one this weekend that everybody in Steeler Land

800
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: will be keeping an eye on. It'll probably be halftime

801
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: of this game before I get off the plane and

802
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: get home from Detroit, but I'll be flipping it on

803
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: as soon as I get home in Baltimore. Eight twenty

804
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football Ravens hosting the New England Patriots in

805
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: a game that means a lot for both teams. Yeah,

806
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: New England, trying to stay involved in the number one

807
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: seed discussion, trying to stay ahead of Buffalo for the

808
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: division championship. A Baltimore team that desperately is, you know,

809
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: trying to stay with the Steelers and keeping the playoff

810
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 4: hunt themselves. Baltimore a three point favorite at home. I'm

811
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 4: surprised by.

812
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: That me too. I would pick the Pats to win

813
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: straight up. Same now I hear all week boy, the

814
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: Patch came back to earth. They haven't played anybody, but

815
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, they still won like nine games in a row.

816
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: I mean, as you and I have talked, there is

817
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: definitely some credence to that. You know, Yeah, playing playing

818
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: Cincinnati in Cleveland and Washington is not the same as

819
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: playing Detroit hip Buffalo, you know, but with few exceptions

820
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: like maybe the Raiders, maybe the Titans, a couple of

821
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: those teams. Like it is, as we say all the time,

822
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: it's not a HIGHO state against Akron. No, Like, these

823
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: are still NFL teams on NFL teams.

824
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: Even nine in a row or whatever it was. I mean,

825
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: that's pretty darn impressive. Yes, Now their defense has come

826
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: back to earth a little lately. They have some O

827
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: line injuries, and I do think Lamar is starting to

828
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: look a little more and a little more like Lamar,

829
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: and it's not the easiest place to play, and the

830
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: Ravens need it. I just think the Ravens have fundamental problems.

831
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: And I would definitely power rank the Patriots over Baltimore

832
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: right now. So if you're give me the points, I'm

833
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: definitely taking it.

834
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: This is like I don't know some you know, I

835
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: like to use the Nick Saban the rat poison, Like

836
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: Nick Saban used to hate it when people would talk

837
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: about how good Alabama was. He's like, because then my

838
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: players hear that and it's rat poison, and they don't

839
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: work as hard a practice, they don't pay as much attention.

840
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: In the film, rug just roll the ball out there.

841
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: And when rat poison, this line feels like rat poison, Like,

842
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: come on, you're gonna give me this Patriots team against

843
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 4: this Ravens team, and you're giving me a field goal.

844
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: Which means the Ravens will win by twenty and Henry

845
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: I have two hundred yards.

846
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: And I pointed this out to you, But even people

847
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: who haven't been to a game in Baltimore this year,

848
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can tell by just watching on TV.

849
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: It's not the same atmosphere there that they typically have, right,

850
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, like they came into the season, they.

851
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Can turn on their team too.

852
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: They came in the.

853
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: Season expecting to win twelve thirteen, fourteen games and be

854
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl contender, and like you think at times

855
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh we were upset with the way things were

856
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: going this year. Oh yeah, they I think have had

857
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: even higher expectations than Steeler Nation these last couple of

858
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: years and having.

859
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: They were on the outside looking in on the playoffs.

860
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 4: Exactly right, exactly right. So I'm taking plus three, happy

861
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: to to.

862
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm a sucker and diving in, but

863
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I am definitely taking it.

864
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: I would, I think, treats to win.

865
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: If we were just doing a pick them who wins,

866
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: forget the points, I would take New England.

867
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: I would.

868
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: If you're giving me a field.

869
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: Goal, I will happily take that field goal. There's our

870
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: thoughts on the week sixteen slate across the National Football League.

871
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: Real quick, Matt, I did mention to you how tonight

872
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: is the first of the college football playoff games Alabama

873
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: at Oklahoma. Three more of those on Saturday at noon Texas.

874
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: A and M hosts Miami. Great one to watch there,

875
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: watch the quarterbacks, a lot of guys that are going

876
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 4: to be drafted in the first round, and on Day two.

877
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: In that game at noon on Saturday, A and M

878
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 4: is a three and a half point favorite. And that'll

879
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 4: be a weird one because that's like an eleven am

880
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: local start in College Station, which is one of the

881
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 4: best atmospheres and home field advantages in all of sports.

882
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: Could that be a little off at eleven am where

883
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: that place still be rocking. I have a feeling it'll

884
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: still be rocking that Saturday. That's Saturday at noon. That's

885
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: your you know, watch it with no other NFL obligations.

886
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: Two top ten teams, great game, a lot of pro

887
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: prospects in that one, including both quarterbacks. And then at

888
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: three point thirty tomorrow Old Miss host Tulane. That one

889
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: could be over by the time the Commanders and the

890
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: Eagles kickoff. Old Miss seventeen and a half point favorites. Now,

891
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: they did lose their head coach and there's a lot

892
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: going on with that program, but Tulane also lost their

893
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 4: head coach and some of their coaching staff, So he

894
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: go Florida.

895
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Max Stalks, Okay.

896
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: Go Gatis and then Saturday Night seven point thirty. Maybe

897
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 4: you can watch a little bit of it between the

898
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: two NFL games. Oregon hosts James Madison twenty one point favorites.

899
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: Oregon could roll Lane or James Madison to put up

900
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: a lot of fight.

901
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: I would wouldn't if Tulane kept it close for a while.

902
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me, so I think. And again, they

903
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 4: lost their coachings their coach too, but so did Old Miss.

904
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: There's a lot of volatility in that one. Whereas Hey,

905
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: any any given Sunday, anything can happen. It's why you

906
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: play the game any given Saturday. I would be surprised

907
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: if James Madison kept it close with Oregon, but it

908
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me if Tulane hung around longer than people expect.

909
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that's your best game of Saturday is the early one.

910
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: The best game Saturday is the early one.

911
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: And it's funny a lot of college football people were

912
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: complaining about that, like.

913
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: That should be a night game.

914
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: Kyle Field, You've talked about how amazing that atmosphere is.

915
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: You've been there, But that's why, because that's the best one.

916
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: It's why they put Alabama and Oklahoma on Friday night too,

917
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: college football smart. They don't want to compete with the

918
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: NFL Saturday.

919
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna lose.

920
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: So we're gonna put our two best games Friday night

921
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: and Saturday afternoon before the.

922
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: Good as that game is. I mean, well me, but

923
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: everyone's watching Bears Packer.

924
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: Unless you're a college football junkie, you're gonna watch the NFL.

925
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: That's just the way. That's just the way this country is. Brother.

926
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: So that's your jam packed weekend slate of important football games,

927
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 4: but of course the biggest one in our eyes, Steelers

928
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: Lions Sunday four twenty five in Detroit. We will give

929
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: our final thoughts and our predictions on that. On the

930
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: other side before we get up out of here. West Yeuler,

931
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: Matt Williamson, it's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

932
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 4: the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

933
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

934
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

935
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: Down the home stretch, we go, just one game to

936
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: talk about here before we get up out of here.

937
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: And of course it is the most important action of

938
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: a jam packed football weekend four to twenty five at

939
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: Ford Field in Detroit, Steelers and Lions. Matt, before we

940
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: give our predictions and final thoughts, what's the latest you

941
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: got for me on the injury front.

942
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take this as gospel, folks, but this is

943
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: kind of what the little birdies are talking about down

944
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 2: there at the moment. But no word really on Bent

945
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: in one way or another.

946
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: Okay, he feels like a true yes, something popping up

947
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: late in the week, like a true game time decision.

948
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: Herbig would be questionable leaning towards Yes, that's very good.

949
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: But I mean again, I'm trying. I'm not trying to

950
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: get everyone excited.

951
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 4: But we know he was a participant in practice today. Yes,

952
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: as was Fraser.

953
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: I'd say Fraser I think is on the positive side.

954
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: See youmal who is not? Okay, So there you have it.

955
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Well, there will at least be some movement on the

956
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: offensive line, but hopefully maybe some more encouraging news elsewhere.

957
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 3: Matt.

958
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: It is the Steelers and the Lions where Detroit is

959
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: a seven point favorite. Yes, so big numb is that

960
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: the big? Is that the biggest dog the Steelers have

961
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 4: been this season?

962
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Gotta be.

963
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: I felt like two weeks ago in Baltimore. Weren't the

964
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 4: Steelers like five and a half six point dogs?

965
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: It was under seven now, but.

966
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: It was under seven. I think this is the biggest

967
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: that we've seen so far this year.

968
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: It was in Green Bay or Buffalo.

969
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: Correct.

970
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: Correct, Both of those were at home as well, right,

971
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: which helps you out a little bit, Matt. It is

972
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: the only spread in the league this weekend that is

973
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: above fifty points. Fifty two and a half is the

974
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: spread in this one, Detroit favored by seven.

975
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: How do you think it pay?

976
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: All yours?

977
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: I feel like the Lions win a high scoring game,

978
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: but the Steelers cover. Okay, so I'm gonna go hmmm,

979
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go twenty seven. That's not high enough. I'm

980
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: gonna go thirty three to twenty seven Detroit.

981
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: Okay. I have the Lions winning thirty to twenty.

982
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: Ooh, so lower scoring.

983
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's fifty points. Yeah. I have my doubts

984
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: still that the Steelers can really play that style of

985
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: game and get to those kind of numbers and just

986
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: air it out. I mean, I like Metcalf and I

987
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: like the Steelers pass catchers, but they're not Saint Brown

988
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: and Gibbs and Williams and you know good. So I

989
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: think that's really the way that this game is going

990
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: to be played. And I don't love the Steeler injury

991
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: stuff at the moment either.

992
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: That's a big concern to me.

993
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: It's not great. And boy, this the Lions need is

994
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: so bad and they're gonna be so aggressive, and it's

995
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: gonna be a loud stadium. As Missy mentioned, I don't

996
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: think it's a great time to play these guys.

997
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: I completely agree with you on that. I will say

998
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: this though, for a little optimism. This will be just

999
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: the third time this season that you and I have

1000
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: both picked against the Steelers.

1001
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: Bet we were wrong each time.

1002
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: That we were wrong each time.

1003
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time.

1004
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: The first time.

1005
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 4: Was was the Colts game. We both picked the Colts,

1006
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: and then I think it was Baltimore. I want to

1007
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: say two weeks ago we both picked we both picked

1008
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: the Raves.

1009
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1010
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: So hopefully we'll make it a hack, make it a

1011
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: hat trick three for three, yeah, and.

1012
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Then we'll pick the Ravens in Week eighteen.

1013
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: Maybe we should just do that. Maybe we should just

1014
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: do that every week down the stretch. Here.

1015
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: We have to find a way to talk ourselves into

1016
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: the Browns beating the Steelers next week.

1017
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: And then round one take the bills or whoever.

1018
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's been a fun week. It'll be our

1019
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: kind of you know.

1020
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: Next week will be a weird one with the holiday

1021
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: and Christmas and everything. I'm sure a lot of you

1022
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 4: are traveling around today and this week and getting ready

1023
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: to have your corporate week off next week.

1024
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: So be safe out there if you are.

1025
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots no out and cold and you know.

1026
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 4: Right, I think I told you this joke Thanksgiving, but

1027
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: mostes used to make this joke around the holidays. He'd

1028
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 4: be like, you're gonna be getting together with a dozen

1029
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: of your family members. You know what they really need

1030
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: for the holiday season. Get on their phone, get on YouTube,

1031
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: get on Spotify, get on Apple, and subscribe to the Steelers.

1032
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: Blinch Yep, and they'll say thank you for years to come.

1033
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: We'll say thank you for all the free content downloads

1034
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: in their lap every single day. Yep.

1035
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you should do. Get your mom, your grandma. You

1036
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: know they have a podcast app.

1037
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Go on your little cousin's YouTube account and

1038
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: follow the Steeler. Subscribe to the Steelers YouTube page. And

1039
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: watch the drive there. But seriously, everybody's safe travels, happy

1040
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: start to the holiday weekend, Enjoy the fantastic slate of

1041
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: football here over the next three four days, and win

1042
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: loser draw. As always, Matt, we will be back to

1043
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 4: break it all down on Monday. For our video producer,

1044
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: TV Tyler V for keeping us nice and handsome on YouTube.

1045
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: Thanks to Missy Matthews for joining us today with her

1046
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: view from the sideline as well. For Matt Williamson, I'm

1047
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: west Shuler. Take care everybody, and you know where to

1048
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: find us. As always, we'll talk to you Monday on

1049
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 4: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold.

1050
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Speaker 4: It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.