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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. We got some trades, We got some big

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Speaker 2: stuff going on, Ryan Helsley, we got Tyler Rogers. We

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Speaker 2: maybe got some more guys on the move. We don't

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Speaker 2: have to worry about that Padre series. Forget about it.

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Speaker 3: It didn't even happen.

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Speaker 1: It didn't even happen.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: But it's trade deadline season.

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Speaker 2: The Mets went out and grabbed two big relievers on

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Speaker 2: the market.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk a little bit about the Padre series.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the trade deadline so far, the

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Speaker 2: moves that the Mets have made, and what we can

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Speaker 2: expect going to happen today on the trade deadline day.

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Speaker 2: to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the rating, drops

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Speaker 2: the review, download and subscribe. James probably feeling a little

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Speaker 2: bit better right now than we did a little earlier

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Speaker 2: in the day when the Mets were getting their ass

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Speaker 2: kicked by the Padres.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't great, I mean kind of. It's just funny

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Speaker 4: about how little. I'm sure David Seerns watched the Mets

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Speaker 4: game today because then the first inning, what no, stop.

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Speaker 1: No, this is not about us. The Cardinals got blazed

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Speaker 1: Jordan for Stephen Matts.

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Speaker 4: What oh okay, I mean that's like there's like thirteen

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Speaker 3: That's gonna make a difference soon. That's good for them.

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Speaker 1: That's too much. Wow, okay, whatever, keep going.

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Speaker 3: Sorry pitching markus crazy.

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Speaker 4: But first second inning, we get the news that comes

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Speaker 4: a lot of people flipped immediately because the names in

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Speaker 4: that trade were big names. Yeah, Mark flip, I flipped

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Speaker 2: I think it was shocking to sometimes we forget that,

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Speaker 2: does seem crazy like giving up Drew Gilbert, giving up

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Speaker 2: Tyler Rodgers was a very good reliever, but as a

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Speaker 3: Definitely not.

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Speaker 4: And then honestly, they actually might not have them in

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Speaker 2: Like in that kind of Helsley Duran Jack's kind of range,

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Speaker 2: But I didn't know if it was gonna be Helsley specifically.

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Speaker 1: I love that it is though. He's so good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was one of the first guys we

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Speaker 4: talked about in yesterday's episode just about all the players

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Speaker 4: that we wanted to target in trades. I think he

446
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Speaker 4: was literally the second player we talked about in that

447
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Speaker 4: after Louis Robert, and I think there's still a good

448
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Speaker 4: chance that Mets still acquired Louis Robert before the deadline

449
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Speaker 4: on Thursdays. We'll keep an eye on that it's officially

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Speaker 4: deadline day. Seeing that seven thirty one on the calendar

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Speaker 4: is incredible. But this is awesome. This is the best

452
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Speaker 4: Mets ballpen I can remember. Ryan Helsley is a demon.

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Speaker 4: He throws one hundred miles an hour with a nasty slide.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Helsley also, I've talked about a few times in

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Speaker 4: the show this year, he was having an issue with

456
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Speaker 4: the cut on his four seamed fastball because during the

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Speaker 4: offseason he wanted a little new wrinkle, a little something new,

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Speaker 4: so we developed a color. But throwing that color as

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Speaker 4: someone who was so over the top. It just threw

460
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Speaker 4: with so much for the collection, with so much philosophy,

461
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Speaker 4: that color made this fastball cut too much. Now we

462
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Speaker 4: stopped throwing the cover. The fastball is now reverted back.

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Speaker 4: It's been nice important change for him. It's got the

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Speaker 4: commands been back. He's been able to keep that ball

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Speaker 4: in the yard more. And it's just he's awesome. He's

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Speaker 4: a fantastic reliever. I think pound for pound I've laid

467
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Speaker 4: said this to you guys yesterday when the ten twelve

468
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Speaker 4: best relievers in the entire sport, I can say that confidently,

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Speaker 4: and just another guy through was one hundred miles an hour,

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Speaker 4: which we just love having his bullpen. I know, David.

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Speaker 4: This is also a funny part of this. I know

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Speaker 4: that David Stearns had a lot of those good teams

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Speaker 4: in Milwaukee. I know that David Stearns did make a

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Speaker 4: good slow of win now moves. This feels like the

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Speaker 4: first time at David Stearns has thrown a bit of

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Speaker 4: his inhibitions to the wind, and it is like I'm

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Speaker 4: fucking going for it.

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Speaker 1: Like this is like a Mets fan a little bit

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Speaker 1: that right now.

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Speaker 4: This is the first time we've seen I think this

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Speaker 4: version of David Stearns as an executive the first time

482
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Speaker 4: he might have seen this version of himself as an executive.

483
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Speaker 4: So anyway like this is this seems like a whole

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Speaker 4: new world for him.

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Speaker 2: I also like to with Helsy the fact that he

486
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Speaker 2: has the closing experience. So does Tyler Rodgers sneaky like

487
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Speaker 2: had like fifteen saves one year back with the Giants.

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Speaker 4: Both have playoff experience as well. Both have playoff experience.

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Speaker 2: These are guys who if Edwin Diaz has been used

490
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Speaker 2: two days in a row, we don't have to push

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Speaker 2: him for a third day. You can use Edwin dy

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Speaker 2: As in the eighth inning. Let's say you have some big,

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Speaker 2: big hitters coming up, like in the Phillies and u

494
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Speaker 2: Soto already in a game, and you have Hartburn Schworber

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 1: In the eighth.

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Speaker 2: You could go Diaz in the eighth. You have Helsey

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Speaker 2: for the ninth, you could go to Tyler Rodgers. You

499
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Speaker 2: could go health like the creativity now that the Mets

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Speaker 2: can have at the end of the bowl. At the

501
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Speaker 2: end of the game, I obviously still want Edwin did

502
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Speaker 2: as the ninth inning guy getting the final outs but

503
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Speaker 2: they can be smart about this. Now they can be strategic.

504
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Speaker 2: Where in the past when Edwin Diaz wasn't available, you're like,

505
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Speaker 2: how the how the hell is this game gonna be?

506
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Speaker 2: How are we gonna finish this game? Like we saw

507
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Speaker 2: Watscar Brasebon get multiple appearances in the ninth then and

508
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Speaker 2: give up nukes like that was a guy we were

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Speaker 2: going to. Now we got Elsley and Tyler Rodgers' other options.

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Speaker 1: That's huge.

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Speaker 4: And again I did mention that Hellesley has isn't ha

512
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Speaker 4: problems with lefties, but just as a fastball slider guy,

513
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Speaker 4: it's like he's better to face the right these he

514
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Speaker 4: was working on that color he is Most people too neutral,

515
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Speaker 4: as all of these guys kind of are now like

516
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Speaker 4: he's he's not. There's not a pronounced Ryan Helsey lefty

517
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Speaker 4: problems between him, Diaz and Tyler Rodgers and Reed Garrett.

518
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Speaker 4: Those are four your four highest leverage pitchers could all

519
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Speaker 4: very comfortably get out of hitters from both sides of

520
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Speaker 4: the plate. Like it is, it's a strong fucking bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Like looking around the other contenders in the National League,

522
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Speaker 4: it's the Dodgers aren't a full health and we don't

523
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Speaker 4: know if they're going to be a full health.

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Speaker 3: With Tanner Scott and Michael Kopek.

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Speaker 4: Like, I think the Padres definitely still have the best bullpen,

526
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Speaker 4: but besides them, I think in the National League, I take.

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Speaker 3: Ours right now.

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Speaker 2: Mets are definitely up there and Duran Holston Philly is

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Speaker 2: a lot sit.

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Speaker 3: We could talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, classic David Surtins. Though bullpen's not gonna look the

532
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Speaker 2: same at the beginning of the year as it does

533
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Speaker 2: at the end of the year. The Mets have Edwin Diaz,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Stanek, and Reed Garrett from the bullpen. At the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the year, everybody else were not guys on

536
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Speaker 2: this roster. That's kind of awesome.

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Speaker 4: Even two weeks ago, most of these guys weren't on

538
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Speaker 4: the roster within ten days, but Brooks Raley came back

539
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Speaker 4: from injury, Rico Garcia who is DFA, we re picked

540
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Speaker 4: up greg Orisolo trade, Tyler Rodgers trade, Ryan Helsey trades

541
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Speaker 4: like this is and Kris Devinski we also resigned him

542
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Speaker 4: after he was caught as well. So it's just the

543
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Speaker 4: constant bullpen churn has now come into something that's a

544
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Speaker 4: little bit more cohesive and strategic and I also think

545
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Speaker 4: that some of the language has come out from some

546
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Speaker 4: of the report there's about these Mets trades. Now the

547
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Speaker 4: teams around the league is relevant as well. The Mets

548
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Speaker 4: sank specifically, like this is a two year window they

549
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Speaker 4: know is a really good chance to win the World Series.

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Speaker 4: The thing that's happening at the end of two years,

551
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Speaker 4: like the Bardian Agreement is expiring, and there are early

552
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Speaker 4: murmurs about that horrible L word lockout. Rob Manford's gone

553
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Speaker 4: around the league doing his little bullshit community engagement with

554
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Speaker 4: Bryce Harpertealton the fuck himself they had and Max Schurz's

555
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Speaker 4: like he hasn't talked to me yet.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear that one.

557
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Speaker 4: But yeah, trying to beg these players to take less

558
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Speaker 4: money so the billionaire owners can pocket more of their profits.

559
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Speaker 4: Bob nothing salary dumping to Bob Castellini inside his own division,

560
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Speaker 4: that's just like you should you should really pack it

561
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Speaker 4: up and leave talent after that one, Bud. But we'll

562
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Speaker 4: probably talk about that more later on off season wherever.

563
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Speaker 4: But this, I do think there's a feeling around the

564
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Speaker 4: league right now. And he saw us with the Phillies trade,

565
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Speaker 4: like the tit is a fantastic prospect. He's there's some

566
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Speaker 4: places like Baseball Perspectives who are a little bit more

567
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Speaker 4: aggressive with trades and tools. He was nearly a top

568
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Speaker 4: fifty guy for them their last update, and he he's

569
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Speaker 4: someone that profiles similarly to how Francisco al for his

570
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Speaker 4: profile when he was an eighteen nineteen year olds. Like

571
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Speaker 4: that's the kind of prospect ceiling in heally and that

572
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Speaker 4: Tite has. And then but then you have to look

573
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Speaker 4: at like he's never going to play a game at

574
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Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler with the wise he on this team, like

575
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Speaker 4: Widow's going to happen in two or.

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Speaker 3: Three years, Like get him out of that, let's just

577
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Speaker 3: go World Series idea.

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Speaker 1: He's never gonna play a game with Zack Wheeler.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he's everyone. He's gonna play Game Kosh Warber,

581
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Speaker 4: you might play Game prez Arbist. So it's like we

582
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Speaker 4: who the fuck is? Like the cat Mouse game between

583
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: the Mets and Phillies was a fun little supplied this

584
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Speaker 4: whole thing. I think that it's just just a fun,

585
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Speaker 4: fun day, even though the Mets got pistol whipped by

586
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Speaker 4: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen that it really helped me forget

588
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Speaker 2: about how absolutely awful this series was from the start

589
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Speaker 2: to finish. I mean, it was just kind of I

590
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Speaker 2: shouldn't say start to finish, from like the.

591
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Speaker 3: From the fifth inning on Monday, Yeah.

592
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Speaker 2: To the finish of it, it was like absolute hell.

593
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Speaker 2: And I hate playing in San Diego. I feel like

594
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Speaker 2: chaos always goes on when we go there. And then

595
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Speaker 2: of course, like you Darvish, the corpse that is you

596
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Speaker 2: Darvish rolls out of bed fucking early and just dominates

597
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Speaker 2: the Mets today.

598
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Speaker 4: And even before we start talking a little bit about

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Speaker 4: the series, we haven't mentioned that all the returns for

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Speaker 4: Ry Helstey because you're so excited about Ryan Helsey. It's

601
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Speaker 4: Hayes who Spies who has been a favorite of this podcast,

602
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Speaker 4: along with Nate Dome another picture I like a lot,

603
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Speaker 4: and Frank Elsol, someone who I know that some of

604
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Speaker 4: them more dating Klin people. The Mets community was talking

605
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Speaker 4: to guy Jack Benne for a while today about these trades.

606
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Speaker 4: He was like, he's my favorite sleeper in the system.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: M j D Mikey analyis's baseball perspectus m j D Analysis.

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Speaker 4: Mikey said the same thing about the assault, like he's

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Speaker 4: these are these are kind of the embarrassment of riches,

611
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Speaker 4: though you have in your team that does things right.

612
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Speaker 4: Alis Sault was like a seventeenth round pick at a

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Speaker 4: Division two and now he's an interesting pitcher who actually

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Speaker 4: looks like he could have even the most ceiling of

615
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Speaker 4: the prospects in that trade. Like you're allowed to do

616
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Speaker 4: these trades when you're drafting and developing better than basically

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Speaker 4: than most teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think for the Mets to Bias is

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Speaker 2: a legit prospect.

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Speaker 1: He's the one where you.

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Speaker 2: Go, he's inside the Mets probably top ten guys in

622
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Speaker 2: their form.

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Speaker 3: System right on that boarder.

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Speaker 4: But I think that Bias he was very meteoric last

625
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Speaker 4: year and this year it's been like a half a

626
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Speaker 4: step back or at least a step sideways because he's

627
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Speaker 4: the tears meniscus. Yeah, when the player, any athlete, tears

628
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Speaker 4: their meniscus a serious injury. We're seeing Joel and be

629
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Speaker 4: Egle through the meniscus.

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Speaker 3: Tough right now.

631
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Speaker 4: Like the meniscus is a tough it's a tough recovery.

632
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Speaker 4: So a guy like Bia is that that changes the ceiling,

633
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Speaker 4: and it changes the floor. When that you're dealing with that,

634
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Speaker 4: you don't really show another step. And the ex of loss,

635
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Speaker 4: he's kind of plateau. It's like, Okay, you probably wind

636
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Speaker 4: there just being another right handed tweiner to the next level.

637
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Speaker 4: And then again, he's a guy liked a lot, but

638
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Speaker 4: that this guy sucks and guys get hurt.

639
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Speaker 3: But just you get you get. You gotta get a

640
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Speaker 3: guy like Grin Halsey if you want to really compete

641
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Speaker 3: in the National League.

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Speaker 2: You do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
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Speaker 2: And for the Mets, who need to make sure they

645
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Speaker 2: win every single game they possibly can, making sure that

646
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Speaker 2: we keep those leads that we have late in the game,

647
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Speaker 2: super important. Sick sick moves by the Mets today. Well

648
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Speaker 2: done by David Stearns. And I don't think he's done yet.

649
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

650
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna go get another picture by

651
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Speaker 2: any means. I wouldn't be shocked if it's another reliever,

652
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Speaker 2: maybe even two.

653
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Speaker 4: But Tyler Locklear back to Arizona and the Asuirez trade,

654
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Speaker 4: that's it. Yeah, And and two pitching prospects.

655
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Speaker 3: I don't have names on them yet.

656
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Speaker 2: Okay, because Tyler Locklear, I don't know I know it's

657
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Speaker 2: a big, somewhat ish prospect, but I don't I.

658
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Speaker 1: Don't really care about that one. If I'm someone that

659
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Speaker 1: was the big piece.

660
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Speaker 4: It looks like, I mean, there could be definitely again,

661
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Speaker 4: like similar to discussion we're having here, pictures that we

662
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: don't know their names are probably nasty and that Mariners

663
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 4: you know in the Mariners system.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's kind of what this comes down to.

665
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: But just I mean, even just to quickly talk about

666
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: the series again, because even maybe a series like this

667
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: is a way of call for David Stearns being like,

668
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: all right, Padres are a team we could very clearly

669
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Speaker 4: match you up against the postseason, whether it be three

670
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: games of City Field, three games San Diego, or five game,

671
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: seven games, whoever it may be, that's a team that's

672
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: going to be there. And you kind of got smacked,

673
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: kind of got smacked. Good, you didn't really you didn't

674
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: really have that many good moments in the series after that,

675
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: Mark Fianto's Grand Slam again on Monday night. But yeah,

676
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: the mid that mess did not deliver in this one.

677
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: I guess a midnight Mets trade right now during this

678
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: podcast would actually be incredible, But.

679
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear about the Louis Robert trade coming

680
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: in also angry comments right now because I want Louis Robert.

681
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 6: Oh.

682
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: I figured we would spend some of the latter part

683
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Speaker 4: of the show talking about Louis Robert because I think

684
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: now it's like when you make that move. I also

685
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: think that just talking philosophically again, like this is this

686
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: the series preview talking about the trade deadline, a series

687
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 4: review talking about the trade deadline. Making these moves, going

688
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: this deep in for two relievers, I feel like makes

689
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Speaker 4: it more likely the Mets push more chips in.

690
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 6: Oh.

691
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Speaker 1: I super think so.

692
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Speaker 2: And I also think trading Drew Gilbert, who was kind

693
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: of like the security blanket just in case maybe you

694
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Speaker 2: give him a shot at some point in center field.

695
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: Now there's there's no other options in centerfield in this

696
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: Mets organization. Right now. It's Tyrone Taylor, it's Jeff McNeil,

697
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: and it's if Jose Sier he ever decides to play

698
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: baseball again. You kind of like, now it's a legitimate hole.

699
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: There's no questions of let's see Drew Gilbert, let's give

700
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: him a shot.

701
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: He's not here anymore.

702
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: So it's those three guys that can play center field,

703
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: and I guess Tankleyacunya because he's on this roster and

704
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: you did to play center field the other day but.

705
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: Didn't He did sneak in there?

706
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Did sneak in there? And I feel like that was

707
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: for some trade stuff, like, hey, I can playtle.

708
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: Wi mayorfield, he could play center. I I think maybe

709
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Speaker 2: I was a little aggresive. I think I texted you

710
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: David Seerns trades for Luis Robert before he goes to

711
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 2: sleep tonight. Maybe that doesn't happen, But I really I

712
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: feel so.

713
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: Confident he's gonna be on this team by the end

714
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Speaker 1: of the deadline.

715
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Speaker 4: I really do too, but I don't I don't want

716
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: to get ahead of myself because also I.

717
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Speaker 3: Think that another big reason who else do you think

718
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Speaker 3: is going after Luce Robert? I can than one team, yes.

719
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Speaker 2: Phillies, And then I I'll never count out the Dodgers, Yeah,

720
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: because they could always use an actual outfielder not named

721
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: Michael Confordo right now.

722
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Pie has has been good, he's been

723
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: cold for the last month and a half.

724
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: But Robert doesn't even need to play center field. He

725
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: could play a corner like, no, he'll play center field.

726
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm saying, like if they will think he will,

727
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying he will play cunerfield. Pie is in the

728
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: corner I think they wore I mean today late in

729
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 4: the game, I was cover from the game for NBC Sports,

730
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: A crazy game that the Dodgers lost to the Reds

731
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: ten eleven pitch battle between Spencer Steer and Machi and

732
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: with two guys on in a tie game, and then

733
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: in the middle of that battle, Steer puts the pop

734
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: up into the tiny bit of foul territory down the

735
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: leftfield line Cincinnati, because they brought it out into play.

736
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: Center Pie has to kind of misreads the ball. I

737
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: think most of the centerfield he doesn't deal with that

738
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 4: many side walls. He jumps into the wall, but then

739
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: leans back and he hits the ball clanks off his glove.

740
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: A few pitches later is when Spear Steer hit the ball.

741
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: But Steer's ball should have been through Red Homer, but

742
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: James Allman went Superman above the fence and clanked the

743
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: ball off his glove. Just kind of the game winning

744
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: double off of two gloves.

745
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Basically, I love it. Pitch at bat but I think

746
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: they're in play, but.

747
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Adres are always in play.

748
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: I guess right. I kind of think it is more

749
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: so more realistically MC meets versus Phillies. But the Mets more,

750
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: Mets have more chips.

751
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: Mets have more. It depends what the White Sox want.

752
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: If they want major league player chips, yes, the Mets

753
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: have more chips. If they want prospects, The Phillies, I think,

754
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: are more likely to give up one of the big

755
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: prospects of the Mets.

756
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. Why do you think

757
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: that the Phillies don't have as many high level I mean,

758
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: Phillies have Justin Crawford and Aden Miller.

759
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they would move one of those

760
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: guys if that was the case. Maybe, if that's he

761
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: doesn't care, he's trying to win a World Series again,

762
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: like you said, there's two years left. Neither of those

763
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: guys played with Bryce Harbor or Zach Miller orcular Maybe,

764
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: but like that kind of is I don't.

765
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: I just every single day I talk myself more and

766
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: more into Luis Robert I was looking at some advanced data.

767
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: If for Louis Roberts today, like his swing decisions have

768
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: been the best of his entire career. In aggressive in

769
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: the zone, his chase rates down.

770
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Speaker 2: It's like the White Sox were like, hey, hey, buddy,

771
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna trade you this week, did you play well?

772
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: He's again, I'll turn it on. He starts playing hard,

773
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: and he starts playing incredibly well. This was jass Chisholm

774
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: last year. Remember he turned it on like a few

775
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: weeks for the trade deadline to let show people what

776
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: he had. Like, I think there's no doubt that when

777
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: Luis Robert is traded, you do see a great baseball

778
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: player on the other side of that deal. Like, I

779
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: think that's basically given end. The Mets did really telegraph

780
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: their their opinions on their center field situation in the

781
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: the Tuesday game when one Soda went out with an injury,

782
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: filed the ball off his foot.

783
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: X rays negative. He didn't play in the game. He

784
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: also wasn't available on Wednesday. We got a brief reminder

785
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: of what life would have looked like without one so

786
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: though in that game where no one could do anything

787
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: at the plate, he depressed.

788
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: It was horrible, but.

789
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: He's Tyron Taylor comes in for him and with the

790
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: bases lower than one out in the fifth inning of

791
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: a that game one nothing in the middle. In the

792
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: end of July, they pinched at Starling Martay for Tyrone Taylor,

793
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: then makes Darling Martey come and play the outfield. He

794
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: just he kind of like kind of you know, took

795
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: on that job after a ball in the Jackson Merrill triple.

796
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: But like you kind of saw that we don't want

797
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: Tyrone Taylor taking any meaningful at bats anymore. Like that's

798
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: a clear obvious thing that Carls some does just show us.

799
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: So it's to a point where you do kind of

800
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: have to.

801
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Make a trade.

802
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, I mean it's gonna be Robert

803
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: or Cedric Mullins. We've know that Hayman's tweeted that out too,

804
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: that the Mets have been linked to Mullins as well,

805
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: that they're looking at him and Robert. They've looked at

806
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Loriano a little bit, but they're off of him because

807
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: they see him as a corner guy, not really a

808
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: center fielder anymore.

809
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I just, man, I really, it's got to be Robert.

810
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: It's got to be that guy.

811
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: I know our YouTube comment section is tired of it,

812
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you once he gets here and once

813
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: you see how good he's gonna be. Just remember that

814
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: we were telling you from from the April, since last year,

815
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: whatever it was, how badly we wanted this guy.

816
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: Here's another crazy thing happening right now. The A's are

817
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: up by two in the ninth inning against the Mariners,

818
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: and Mason Miller didn't warm up or come in, and

819
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: he wasn't he didn't work on back to back day's

820
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 4: and he didn't really have any big workload things going on.

821
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: I mean that means that there's a chance he could

822
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: be not moved tonight. That means that he's a little

823
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: more available than we maybe think. Also the flips zacly

824
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: Tel got traded late at night. He just pitched the

825
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: game for the race and then got tradedly after.

826
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Yes, he pitched.

827
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: He pitched five innings at the Yankees, five innings, shut

828
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: out all against the Yankees tonight, and the Reds were like,

829
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: you need that, yeah, get that on the team right now,

830
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: but just this time, just fun, this is this is

831
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: baseball Christmas.

832
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: You said the other day, like there's so many and Drew.

833
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: Kit Ridge, oh there we go.

834
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: That that cleans up that Oriols bullpend even more at

835
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: the end of your cane getting the save opportunities for

836
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: the fans and baseball heads out there. What's this is

837
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: some for a trade deadline whre there aren't even really

838
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: that many mark he or the notable players moving at all. Like,

839
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: it's still so much intrigue, so much fun. The Guardians

840
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: have to have a full one day, the whole thing.

841
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Eighteen hours, I think at the time of recording.

842
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: How mad are the Guardians that with this reliever market,

843
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: that emmanue class had to get to get knocked out

844
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: for gambling that the sky, Oh, they gotta be so

845
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: pissed about that. Mason Miller has not pitched since in

846
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: five days and he and he threw nine pitches in

847
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: that appearance and he just didn't warm up in a

848
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: save opportunity for the athletics.

849
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy.

850
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy.

851
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: No more, no more space for relievers than the Mets

852
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: team anymore. I think trading for three relievers is I

853
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: think that payler quota. I mean if Miller, yeah, if

854
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: there's if there's a starting pitcher, you think the Mets

855
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: actually could trade for the next day, Who do you

856
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: think of this.

857
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: Sandy.

858
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: You think it's Sandy.

859
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: He's awkwardly quiet right now, which makes me think that

860
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: the price is they're either asking way too much or

861
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: people just really.

862
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Aren't interested in what they've seen from him so far.

863
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's part of it.

864
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: But I also think that it's also funny similar to

865
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: all these other things, like he has pitched well as

866
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: last two times out, Like, I don't think it's been

867
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: anything that's necessarily that different to the Sandy that we've

868
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: seen all year.

869
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: I still think you get the move.

870
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: The further out you get from Sandy al Coontras, Timmy

871
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: John Surgery, the better picture you will see. Also at

872
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: the same time, like I for what the Mets need

873
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: right now with someone you want to give the ball

874
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: to one of the first or two games of a

875
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: playoff series, I don't know if he's that.

876
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: I just don't.

877
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: I just can't confidently say he's that guy. The second Yeah,

878
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: I think I think he is a player off pitcher.

879
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: I just don't know if he's guy for sure. And

880
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: even like looking at his pitch plotform last night, like

881
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: let's let's put this out from my righties and lefties

882
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: do good podcasting. Your life, Like the curveball command was better.

883
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: It's if that is better the curveball that I've seen

884
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: him for the most of the season. The change up

885
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: was fine.

886
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: Again, maybe this is he it's just the hither version

888
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: of the ro Bet Jazz thing. Bulso that Marbles team

889
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: is playing well, that Martin seam. If they if they

890
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: actually had the real version of Sandy, they'd be not

891
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: gonna do overplay off spot right now. If Edward care going,

892
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: if they had the real version of Sandy al content

893
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: right now, they could win the American League.

894
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't. America's got a Hanio. That's a

895
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: legit pick up for them, Like that makes the leg

896
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: very dangerous.

897
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: Now, it's just that's just that's just the James and

898
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: Marks one per episode fucking with the American League. But

899
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: this is just I'm just I'm happy and you didn't

900
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: go to the National League team because all the national

901
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: team is the only ones getting better, Like that's a

902
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: big deal, And I don't know. It's also we're getting

903
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: that thing that happens this time of year where like

904
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: knocking on some wood with it. But some of the

905
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: teams that are being quiet should not be quiet correct

906
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: to Detroit, where are the Detroit Tigers? Like where are

907
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: the Chicago Cops? And then the cups just got mix soroca?

908
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: But like, what is going on?

909
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: Do we know what the two pitching prospects are yet?

910
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Because like Tyler Locklear, like Tyler Locklear and like eighteen

911
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: year olds like in the like acl or Dominican Summer League,

912
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: Like Tiger's fans got to be throwing a fit if

913
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: that's the case, especially as.

914
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: They're in complete pre fault at this given moment, Like

915
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: that's a It's amazing how much we've talked about the

916
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: padresers and this episod.

917
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I got it.

918
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: It is Hunter Cranton and Juan Burgos are the other prospects.

919
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, not that it matters again, because we don't.

920
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: We're not Marriners guys. Maybe they're guys like we have

921
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: in the medsis, but who are these guys?

922
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 4: Wamburgos just got to triple A. He is a reliever,

923
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: he's minor league believer.

924
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: Wamburgos okay, And Hunter Cranton, Hunter Cranton, because right now

925
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: that feels light Frey Hadeo Swatz, who is being lauded

926
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: as like.

927
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: Hunter Cranton is a twenty four year old turning twenty

928
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: five and high.

929
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: A, yeah, that's incredibly what has very like where are

930
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: the Tigers?

931
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: And then I'm going to say this too, where are

932
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: the Yankees? Where are the Phillies? Where are these teams?

933
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: On this yank think he's got Ryan McMahon for nothing,

934
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: So take that at true, but like also like this

935
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: is still nothing.

936
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: As well, Yeah it really.

937
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: I mean again, I think that there's a lot of

938
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: chirp chirp about these these prospect packages, but the end

939
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: of the day, like these rental corner guys don't go

940
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: for that much jastionality and go for that much either.

941
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 4: The Manners just fix our offense is the first time

942
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: in like a decade and didn't really give that much

943
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: together them. And I do think that Lockleyer probably is

944
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: the first basement for the rest of the season on

945
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 4: the Diamonbacks. I think the Dinmebacks one. So I think

946
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: the Dinebacks are a team that are not trying to sell,

947
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: they're trying to retool. So I think they were like,

948
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: all right, this guy might be this guy might literally

949
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: be our first basement next year.

950
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might give us twenty homers and like a

951
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: seven to twenty oh ps, Like we'll take it for now.

952
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could be a different pavent Smith.

953
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, right handed paved Smith, right right yeah.

954
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: Right handed, worst version of pavement Smith. But it's it's

955
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: it's weird. I mean again, like this always kind of happens.

956
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: These relievers are going for the most. I think there's

957
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: the most competition around them. Maybe it was just less

958
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: competition around you, Heno Suarez than we thought. But that

959
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: is a crazy is a light return. It's not good

960
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: for Mark Fianto's value, but it might be good for

961
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: Luis Robert.

962
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Or it could be good for Mark Viianso's value because

963
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: maybe it's because he has all this control he's actually

964
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: got people want more, they care about what's going to

965
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: go on the next few years.

966
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: I would to highlight Brett Bathy as a for the

967
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 4: DraftKings player spotlight ahead of this series against the Giants.

968
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: Ryan Marisio had a huge weeks last weekend, the huge

969
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: ru run against the Giants that we just I freaked

970
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: out it back along because you missed out you pssed

971
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 4: that part of the boad gust.

972
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Did you see Ronnie Mauricio is like the second highest

973
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: OAA for third basement in baseball this year.

974
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: I tweeted it, I tweeted that out that out, Yeah,

975
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: I quote tweeted him. But then and Marisio had the

976
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: huge run run that we wasted against Robert Suarez on Monday

977
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 4: as well. But the reason I want to talk about

978
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: Baty for this right now, like wil Mauricio has kind

979
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: of planting themselves and taking that I don't think I

980
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: don't think I used the right word there, so late

981
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: at night, Wilder Mariso has taken over that third base

982
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: job and been amazing at it. The reason is before

983
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: to do that because Baty has been so good second base,

984
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: Like those two guys have started that those two positions

985
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 4: for most of the Mets games in the last week

986
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: and a half. Here and Baby, specifically his home and

987
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: awayte splits are insane. That boy loves the hype, he

988
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: needs the fans. A nine to five ops at home

989
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: this year for Brett Baby, you know, four to sixty

990
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 4: four ops on the road an insane split. So I

991
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: think I think that we're going to get a big

992
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: hit from Brett Baty because now that we've pushed our

993
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: chips in the bullpen is set. We probably do need

994
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: another star that if we can make it happen still centerfielder.

995
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: This whole season.

996
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: That comes down to this line that's supposed to one

997
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: of the best in baseball and has underwhelmed to this point.

998
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: And a lot of this does have course have to

999
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: come from the four guys to the top who have

1000
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: been not very good since the All Star break. Pete

1001
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 4: and Lindor horrible for a month straight. Baby Mauricio Ventos

1002
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: Alvarez also left the game. We mentioned anything from this series.

1003
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: We also left the game on Wednesday, but Bathy, Mauricio Alvarez,

1004
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: Viento's at least some combination of those guys had to

1005
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: step up and be real player second half.

1006
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: Like that's how we get where we.

1007
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: Want to go with those guys. I think it starts

1008
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: this weekend. A nice little Brett Baby home run some

1009
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: point this series against the Giant.

1010
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh Brett baty home run prop pick.

1011
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is available, but can I

1012
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: take the over on Luis Roberry hits this series just

1013
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: over half a hit because he's gonna be on this team,

1014
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a hit this weekend. He has to,

1015
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: and if he does, man, I'm gonna be really upset

1016
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna be around this weekend to see

1017
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: Luis Robert's Mets debut, the Prodigal Sun that I've been

1018
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: waiting for. I really, I'm really putting all my chips

1019
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: in the Luis Robert basket.

1020
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1021
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I need him to be a Met so badly.

1022
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this forever since I saw him

1023
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: first play as a White Sox. Hopefully we see him

1024
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: in the Orange and blue. But yeah, Baty's been great.

1025
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: Baty's been so good, and Mauricio has been fantastic. Like

1026
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: you said, we just need one of them to continue

1027
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: to push forward. And this can really help this Mets

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Speaker 2: All right, James has with that series preview playing the

1045
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: Giants again. We're not going to talk too much about it.

1046
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: We literally just saw them and we know that Jose

1047
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Budo is probably gonna make his Giants debut in Cityfield

1048
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: video Jose Buddo video on the screen.

1049
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: I would hope. So we have an off day between

1050
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: let's go Jose Budo with you together.

1051
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I know.

1052
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: I love Jose, butto like that's that's a that's a

1053
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: lifetime met.

1054
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: But we're going to get Robby Ray Friday night, and

1055
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: the Giants are shuffling their rotation.

1056
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Otherwise for us, it's going to Blade.

1057
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: It could be Blaze.

1058
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: We actually could get Blade Table and we also we

1059
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: might get Justin very Lander, which would be funny too,

1060
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: or we might get Carson Wizenhunk because I think he

1061
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: hasn't debuted yet, so he's another left you wow, So

1062
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: two lefties and maybe that kind of ruined the Bret

1063
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: baby player spotlight. But least will start the game again.

1064
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: He'll start the games against them. We'll see what happens.

1065
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: But we're going to be throwing Peterson sanga, Frankie Montas.

1066
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 4: You just swept this team. Let's let's win two a

1067
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 4: three again. They're really they We just we turned them

1068
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: from buyers to sellers last week.

1069
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: They got swept by us.

1070
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: They got swept by the Pirates, and they gave up

1071
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: one of their best relievers. And they've made Camilo Doval

1072
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: also available in trade discussion.

1073
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: So it's what. Yeah, they tweeted that. It was a

1074
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: tweet about that today.

1075
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, demon, that's crazy. Who's gonna get him? Oh?

1076
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: I hope no in the National League. I hope they

1077
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: have too much pride to trade. I hope us to

1078
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: trade them to the Dodgers. Yeah, it's Toronto, Detroit, somewhere

1079
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: else that we will have to play against the regular season.

1080
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: But Let's get this team. Let's get this team again.

1081
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: I want to beat this team. We beat them last time.

1082
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: Great four o'clock game on Saturday. We love the four

1083
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: o'clock Star times at City Field. I don't think necessarily

1084
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: we're going to be at that game. I think we're

1085
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: gonna be just hanging out otherwise. But let's just win.

1086
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: Let's win some start to win some fucking games.

1087
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the first game after the deadline. This

1088
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: is where like, this is where the sausage gets made.

1089
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: This is you start churning the butter a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And this is real.

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Speaker 1: Ball first, real ball stars. Yeah, this is Are you

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Speaker 1: officially on standings watch yet? August first? Oh yeah, officially

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Speaker 1: we're in Okay, officially on standings watch. You heard James Chiano.

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Speaker 1: We're locked in and we haven't mentioned the.

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Speaker 4: Standings yet the season, I don't think maybe once or twice,

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Speaker 4: like going into the first place, falling out of first place.

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Speaker 3: But that's it.

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Speaker 1: I gotta do it for the YouTube titles, get some

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Speaker 1: we get some views and clicks.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: August first, we're beginning standings watch all right.

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Speaker 2: Until then, we will not talk about it. But that's

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Speaker 2: it for this episode. That's up podcast. Oh hey yo,

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Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers. Yeah, Francis Peppers. I forgot about Francis. You know,

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Speaker 2: mister Francis Peppers. Because we've got trades. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hear Frankie's gonna say about trades.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's the big development of Frankie.

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Speaker 4: We got the one message at six thirty so after

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Speaker 4: the Padre series before Hellsley, and then we have another

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Speaker 4: twenty eight second message from Frankie that apparently came in

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Speaker 4: after the Hellsley Trades. We're going to go We're going

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Speaker 4: to go into Mets journey with Frankie Peppers here, but

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Speaker 4: without further ado the legend.

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, Frankie Pepper's haw you doing?

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Speaker 8: I might just throt off of a little reminder that

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Speaker 8: Joe Musgrove cheated in the Wildcard down in two. I'm

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Speaker 8: excited to see our new picture mister Tyler Anderson in

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Speaker 8: the bullpen.

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Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to seeing what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 8: Nope, sad sing Jose Bruteo, goot all emotional in the

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Speaker 8: in the bullpen.

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Speaker 5: But I know that he and the other two folks

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Speaker 5: who traded.

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Speaker 8: I know that they're gonna do well, but I'm excited

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Speaker 8: to see what this bullpen on does.

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Speaker 5: And I am leaving this.

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Speaker 1: One leaving what.

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00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: For Frankie's all over the place in this one's going

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 5: I know the trade deadline is tomorrow on Thursday. I'm

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Speaker 5: excited to see what David Sturt's got cooking up.

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Speaker 8: Might not look like much when it happens, but the

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Speaker 8: best stuff never looks like much and always pays dividends

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Speaker 8: down the road. Trust the process and trust the sauce.

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Speaker 8: Gentleman anyway, I hope you're taking care. I hope you're

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Speaker 8: doing good. And this heat's been horrific. No boon in

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Speaker 8: this heat. Let me tell you, I don't just sweat

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Speaker 8: anymore than I already am. So I hope you boys

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Speaker 8: are doing well and I'll talk to you you soon.

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Speaker 8: Let's go, Mets.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for this vibe shit for the second

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00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: frank Peppers voice here go.

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Speaker 2: Also, trust the sauce. That's like, that's a six shirt.

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00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: We gotta get that out of shirt. That's T shirt

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Speaker 2: material for us. But part two, Frankie Peppers, Frankie Peppers.

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Speaker 5: He doing We got Elsley too. What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: Stern's clinking, making some bawling. Yeah, fresh rock Gohol, with

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Speaker 6: this team, with this bullpen, it's all beautiful. I can't

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Speaker 6: wait to see what he does tomorrow on the trade

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Speaker 6: deadline day. It's just shaping up to be pretty nice.

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00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 6: I will miss the prospects, but we are We need

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Speaker 6: to push now and it's looking good.

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Speaker 5: Thanks boys.

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Speaker 2: All right, JEMs, I got one question for you. Yep,

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Speaker 2: end of trade deadline day six oh one pm or

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Speaker 2: whenever the trade is four? No, it's I think that's six,

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00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: whenever the trade stop rolling in? What are we looking

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Speaker 2: at for the Mets? What moves will they have made

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Speaker 2: on trade deadline day?

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Speaker 1: Who's in? Who's out? What do you think?

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to think that David Stearns has a starting pitcher.

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Speaker 4: Move up asleep, Oh, I don't think that. All the

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Speaker 4: news were gunning out. Andy Martinez came on in foul

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Speaker 4: Territory looking like he was looking like he you know,

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Speaker 4: he's going He hadn't need a meal in like three days.

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Speaker 4: He was looking sickly, but he looks like he's just

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Speaker 4: on the phone. Is hard and Andy does get the

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Speaker 4: best updates here. I think that the way that he

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Speaker 4: was talking about the aggresiveness of David Stearns in the

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Speaker 4: Mets front office, I think the way that we're seeing

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Speaker 4: the aggressiveness of David Stearns in the mess front office,

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Speaker 4: the way that we've now cleared up some of this

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Speaker 4: forty man roster space, I think that we see some

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Speaker 4: more aggressiveness than we're used to with the Mets going

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Speaker 4: after a starting pitcher, and I think that we're going

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Speaker 4: to wind up with someone I don't know who's going

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Speaker 4: to be give me a name. Sure, I think they're

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Speaker 4: gonna kick Tyres on Meryl Kelly. They're gonna kick Tyres in,

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Speaker 4: Sandy al Contra. I think they're going to kick Tyres

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Speaker 4: and Edward Cabrera.

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Speaker 3: I won't give you an name. I'll give you those

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Speaker 3: three names.

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Speaker 1: No, think a name.

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Speaker 3: Sandy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's what I said earlier. You're like, I

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Speaker 1: think it's Sandy.

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Speaker 2: I think I hot take Sandy and Louise Robert Mets

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Speaker 2: by the trade deadline tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't tease me the good time.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep you up at night, James.

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Speaker 2: It's what's gonna happen making you think of Luis, Robarr

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Speaker 2: and Sandy on this team.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to ask for.

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Speaker 2: I won't be disappointed if they don't do it, but

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Speaker 2: I think they need to get one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think I think's a good

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Speaker 4: chance we get one of those guys are Sergic months,

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Speaker 4: I think there will be one more trade made. And

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Speaker 4: with there being a trade made, Mark Heads does his

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Speaker 4: annual trade deadline stream.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hop on there with him on his YouTube

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Speaker 3: channel tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 4: To which it's the trade. I'm gonna hop on two

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Speaker 4: hours before the deadline. So if it's four, gonna come

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Speaker 4: on two six minute, come on four six people come

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Speaker 4: on like three, So I'll see what's going on all

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Speaker 4: the rest of my day.

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Speaker 3: I'll know. I'm gonna just refresh your Twitter all day anyway.

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Speaker 5: So of course, and.

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Speaker 4: Then we're going to try to probably do another podcast

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Speaker 4: to night that comes to you guys again, full trade

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Speaker 4: deadline recap for Friday morning.

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Speaker 2: And that will probably be more baseball encompassing rather than

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Speaker 2: just Mets.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, unless the Mets make lest the Mets get

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Speaker 4: Sandy a Contra and Luis Robert.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll be freaking out and I'll be saying outlandish.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, yeah, then we're gonna start

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Speaker 4: going ballistic. But that's what we go off for, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Fun week, fun day, shit series. Let's I'm pumped tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Great way to forget about the series, making big trades

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Speaker 2: at an off day with trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: That's it for this episode. Thank you for listening, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for watching. Subscribe to the Mets Up podcast YouTube channel

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Speaker 2: if you have not yet done so. If you're listening

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Speaker 2: to US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the Ring, drops

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Speaker 2: the review, download and subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Follow James on social media at James Shiato.

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Speaker 2: I'm Draftneckmark with a CEE. Thank you guys for listening, watching,

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Speaker 2: and whatever else. Let's go Mets. Let's go get Luis,

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Speaker 2: Robert Peace.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Mets