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Speaker 1: not that huge. Gotta sell it though. Baby Joel Embiid
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Speaker 1: coverage for the Dan Patrick Show here on Tuesday, August seventeenth.
Speaker 1: This is an NFL NFL week, obviously. Doug gottlieban I
Speaker 1: huge NFL fans. We disagree on some things, you know,
Speaker 1: we have you have the pre show meeting when you
Speaker 1: talk about some topics. And there's a gentleman by the
Speaker 1: name of Tim Tebow who we will be getting too shortly.
Speaker 1: He's a divisive figure. I don't know how, because he's
Speaker 1: such a kind human being and a superstar back in
Speaker 1: his prime, and now he is a veteran trying to
Speaker 1: make the cut in Jacksonville. And of course social media
Speaker 1: is playing a part in the Tim Tebow saga in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: But we have to start with a quarterback controversy that
Speaker 1: is brewing. You guys know me from my podcast straight Fire.
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week. You could see the
Speaker 1: writing on the wall in New England. It's starting starting
Speaker 1: to get a little ugly, Doug. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you'd characterize Cam Newton versus Mac Jones as ugly yet.
Speaker 1: But we are one preseason game in Belichick has not
Speaker 1: named his starting quarterback. Cam Newton is on a one
Speaker 1: year deal, and you got Mac Jones, the pretty boy Autabama,
Speaker 1: and he turns I believe it's twenty three years old
Speaker 1: right before week one. So this is not some young
Speaker 1: kid like Trey Lance who's only got a handful of starts,
Speaker 1: or Zach Wilson who had one year as a starter
Speaker 1: at BYU. This is a kid who is old and experienced.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Doug, I'm starting to feel a little
Speaker 1: nervous for the prospects in the immediate future of Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: And then you can spin that forward and what does
Speaker 1: that due to the Patriots locker room? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's why they haven't haven't made a change yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's why. Like, if you're Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: you have to read the locker room. You have to
Speaker 1: you have to have everybody in the locker room now
Speaker 1: and going, yeah, I get it. And he's probably not
Speaker 1: there yet. But if if you're surprised by this, look
Speaker 1: you just trace it back to when Cam signed the
Speaker 1: extensions three and a half million dollars. That's backup quarterback money.
Speaker 1: He knows that. You know that, I know that this
Speaker 1: is not a surprise. And look him and can't throw
Speaker 1: a football anymore. See, you can't throw football an listen,
Speaker 1: I will run that tape of New England Seattle from
Speaker 1: what week two last year? Yes, I know it months ago,
Speaker 1: but he could he could throw the football. He got
Speaker 1: hit hard by Covid. Let's be real. And if you
Speaker 1: look at those seepers they gave him, like Covidi did
Speaker 1: you did you watch them played less year? Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of an NFL quarterback throwing for less than
Speaker 1: a hundred yards. It was awful, Yeah, it was awful. Well,
Speaker 1: the circumstance doesn't matter, but the circumstance does. They went
Speaker 1: out and got two receivers for him, two tight ends.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody was hitting harder by COVID than the Patriots.
Speaker 1: They had so many opt outs, most were on defense.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless they capped out. They were capped out, and
Speaker 1: they also, you know, um, you end up losing. Edelman
Speaker 1: barely barely played last year and obviously now he's done.
Speaker 1: But but like you can go through all the circumstances
Speaker 1: you want, he can't throw. He struggled to throw, going
Speaker 1: back to his days in Carolina after he heard his shoulder. Initially,
Speaker 1: he's heard his shoulder twice. He's had a couple of
Speaker 1: operations in a scope on that shoulder, and last year
Speaker 1: he was like shot putting the ball. He's still not
Speaker 1: he and he's never been an accurate thrower. Prime Cam
Speaker 1: Newton was not an accurate thrower. You know, you you take,
Speaker 1: you put a couple shoulder surgeries and and then you
Speaker 1: put him behind a shake your offensive line with not
Speaker 1: a lot of talent to throw too, and he was awful.
Speaker 1: It was bad. I will but sorry, go ahead confited.
Speaker 1: No, No No, I'm just saying, like, and when I say
Speaker 1: can't throw a football, it's not that he can't throw
Speaker 1: a football. But we understood, we understand there's like fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty guys that can really do this. I can really
Speaker 1: do this. But most of them, even the ones that
Speaker 1: can't read a defense, even the ones that that they
Speaker 1: can't go through their progressions. Some guys can't lead a
Speaker 1: locker room. There's things that but they can almost all
Speaker 1: throw and throw accurately enough. There's different levels of it's
Speaker 1: he was the worst thrower in the NFL last year.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really close. And this has been a problem
Speaker 1: for years. And he was coming off of he was
Speaker 1: coming off the Carolina Panthers lettinghim go, and like, look,
Speaker 1: you don't have to. It's not personal. It is business.
Speaker 1: And if if it was personal, Ron Rivera would love
Speaker 1: to have Cam Newton in Washington. He's gone through like
Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks. No, no, I'm saying if he thought
Speaker 1: he could still play, then he would be on the
Speaker 1: Washington Washington football team, right if I mean Brandon bed
Speaker 1: They they have Mitchell Trubisky as their backup. Okay, making
Speaker 1: similar money to what Cam is making. Okay, Brandon Bean
Speaker 1: and and that coaches that they came from Carolina. You're
Speaker 1: not seeing people reach out the Carolina Panthers. He was
Speaker 1: their signature player. They wanted Teddy Bridgewater, then they were
Speaker 1: done with Teddy Bridgewater. Then they brought in Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: who's wildly unproven. They've had plenty of opportunities to go, like,
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's bring Cam new him back. It
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything else. Like Cam has
Speaker 1: handled himself incredibly well. They liked him in New England.
Speaker 1: Bill clearly likes him where He's given him all this shot.
Speaker 1: He's given him all this this this runaway. He just
Speaker 1: can't throw anymore. It's okay, I've let the slander going
Speaker 1: long enough, Doug So former MVP Cam Newton cannot throw
Speaker 1: a football. That's the claim. I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: He's not the guy he was when he was an
Speaker 1: MVP helping lead Carolina to the Super Bowl. I get that.
Speaker 1: How long ago. I think I think I had one
Speaker 1: kid maybe at that time, instead of two who are
Speaker 1: now in like approaching middle school. So it was a
Speaker 1: long time ago that being said Doug, there is something
Speaker 1: too loyalty. Hey guess what, Cam, Last year, we were
Speaker 1: in a pinch Tom Brady left us. We were a
Speaker 1: little ego driven here in New England. We didn't think
Speaker 1: he'd actually leave. We had nothing, We had Brian Hoyer
Speaker 1: as our potential quarterback. Like we were desperate. Okay, you
Speaker 1: came and were the guy back in the pocket getting
Speaker 1: murdered behind a bad line with no skill position players. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for your service. We're gonna bring you back. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's what they did to Cam and he really said
Speaker 1: as much four days ago on Instagram. He mentioned loyalty
Speaker 1: and how he deserves some loyalty. Now he did it
Speaker 1: with his weirdo lingo and that he uses and whatever
Speaker 1: font that is that I cannot find on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: But Cam essentially was telling the Patriots, hey, man, I
Speaker 1: see what's going on here. Y'all deserve me a chance.
Speaker 1: And if you look at their offseason, Bill Belichick has
Speaker 1: never ever spent as a head coach like he did
Speaker 1: this offseason. They bring in Aglare, they bring in Bourne,
Speaker 1: they bring in two tight ends, and I do wonder, Doug,
Speaker 1: when you bring on John Usmith and Hunter Henry two
Speaker 1: tight ends when you had none, Remember Gronk left Brady
Speaker 1: and they didn't even bring in a tight end in
Speaker 1: that offseason. You bring in two. Is Belichick considering a
Speaker 1: lot of two tight end sets, a lot of heavy,
Speaker 1: a lot of running like he did last year? Because
Speaker 1: if that's the case, Cam might still have a shot
Speaker 1: and some value on the team. I don't think Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick's really a two quarterback kind of guy, but I
Speaker 1: do wonder if he wants to have versatility with Hey,
Speaker 1: we can spread four wide and get Mac Jones under center,
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, we can go with the heavy sets
Speaker 1: and bring in Cam. Do you think that's something Belichick
Speaker 1: would consider? Because again, Tom Brady left for Tampa and
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. They're absolutely stacked this year. There
Speaker 1: are actually Vegas odds, and we'll do a lot of
Speaker 1: Vegas on this show on whether or not the Bucks
Speaker 1: can go undefeated. Bill Belichick lost the divorce. He wants
Speaker 1: to come back strong with the dime piece on his arm.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if he tries something wacky like two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in New England. Oh, I think he's gonna have
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks until he has one. I don't think anything
Speaker 1: you're necessarily misreading, Like last year because of COVID, because
Speaker 1: they were in capell there's nothing they could do. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't you know. And Nikkila Harry's was a bad
Speaker 1: draft pick, but that only that Adelman got old and
Speaker 1: had the bone on bone knee and there's just nothing
Speaker 1: they could do. I don't think he lost the divorce.
Speaker 1: I just don't they what if you don't decide in
Speaker 1: the first year, considering the fact that they had a
Speaker 1: quarterback who couldn't throw a football, they had all those
Speaker 1: other things that you just stated working against him. They
Speaker 1: won seven games last year in a division where you
Speaker 1: had two double digit winnington they had. Dolphins won ten
Speaker 1: and the Bills won thirteen, And the Patriots still won
Speaker 1: seven games and probably could have won nine. Last year
Speaker 1: might have been his best coaching job he's ever done,
Speaker 1: considering the talent and all the other things that they
Speaker 1: had going against them. So I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is reacting to Tom Brady. Tom Brady inherited
Speaker 1: a team which had been bad for twenty years, but
Speaker 1: loaded up with talent and then was because he's Tom
Speaker 1: Brady could get Gronk to come play, got Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: to come play. And after starting out seven and five,
Speaker 1: they played four the worst teams in the league, and
Speaker 1: they end up eleven and five. To get little momentum.
Speaker 1: They survived Washington, right, they survived Tampa who had a lead,
Speaker 1: and I think it was Jared Cook who fumbled right
Speaker 1: when they had had a lead late in the second half.
Speaker 1: And then they went into Green Bay and Brady was
Speaker 1: awesome in the first half and they just kind of
Speaker 1: held out for your dear life in the second half,
Speaker 1: and the defense came through and they dominated the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl over depleted kan City Chief team. That that's what happened.
Speaker 1: But but Bill Belichick, if you talk to these guys,
Speaker 1: they don't care about the rest of the league. They
Speaker 1: don't have they don't have the wol You cannot spend
Speaker 1: almost two decades with a quarterback, watch him walk out
Speaker 1: the door, win a Super Bowl with another teams not
Speaker 1: care that's possible. There's no there's no there's no no
Speaker 1: doubt in that. It doesn't suck because people all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they'll they they they make history. What they
Speaker 1: wanted to be. They make history about about Brady. The
Speaker 1: two of him worked together incredibly well. Brady has become
Speaker 1: this magnificent, outspoken leader now. But like, look, if you
Speaker 1: if you think Tampa's going undefeated, go ahead, put some
Speaker 1: money on it. That also playing seventeen games. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: those are that's money that you're you're you're pissing out
Speaker 1: the window. That's by the way, Belichick and Brady together
Speaker 1: in New England nearly went undefeated and won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They did, and then the next year, next year, he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Yes, okay, so we can actually see prime
Speaker 1: Brady with that team the following year. I mean, how
Speaker 1: good could they have possibly been in a repeat year.
Speaker 1: But remember Tampa, they've never seen this success. So as
Speaker 1: hard as it is to see success the first time,
Speaker 1: imagine how hard it's going to be to see success.
Speaker 1: So I totally disagree. Doug Cup Wait and wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Hold up, this is a team in a COVID year
Speaker 1: where there was really no offseason. Brady went to a
Speaker 1: new city, a new coach, a new system, a new everything,
Speaker 1: and they were some you know, kinks that needed to
Speaker 1: be worked out. I think they opened seven and five
Speaker 1: then they had that that Sunday night loss. I think
Speaker 1: it was to the Chiefs, the close one. And after
Speaker 1: that they did not lose a game. I think they
Speaker 1: went seven or not including the three and no playoff
Speaker 1: run on the road getting to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: they were a different team, dug unstoppable and they returned
Speaker 1: to everyone. I don't know how I mean like this team.
Speaker 1: And by the way, what do we know about Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do we know about the NFL? Well, let's start
Speaker 1: in the NF Now, what do we know about the NFL?
Speaker 1: What do we know about it? We know that on
Speaker 1: a yearly basis, half the teams that make the playoffs
Speaker 1: don't make it the next year. Now, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that Tampa's not gonna make the playoffs. They've expanned the
Speaker 1: playoffs or seventeen games and they have an increase. They
Speaker 1: have a very very good roster. Okay, But but the
Speaker 1: idea that this the only team to make it look
Speaker 1: seemingly easy to make multiple Super Bowls to consistently be
Speaker 1: competitive at that level is the Patriots. Now do you
Speaker 1: want to say that Tom Brady is the connective tissue
Speaker 1: between the Patriots in Tampa? Sure, he doesn't run the
Speaker 1: entire franchise, and it as much as you can change
Speaker 1: some of the culture and going after the next title
Speaker 1: and maybe they come out the better team. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was when they were seven to five. It was the
Speaker 1: wake up call and they've not maybe figured it out.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this a hard league. Guys get hurt
Speaker 1: all the time. He had one thing real quick, while
Speaker 1: you're on a hard league. Um, you know, my guy,
Speaker 1: Warren Sharp puts together an incredible packet. They looked at
Speaker 1: the easiest versus the toughest schedules in the league. Based
Speaker 1: on Vegas win totals, the Bucks have the fifth easiest
Speaker 1: schedule in the NFL. They basically face a cakewalk. And
Speaker 1: remember the Saints are criminally overrated. This year. They lost
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, they lost Michael Thomas. That's a team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a team they lost twice last year in the
Speaker 1: regular season. Listen, they have They open with Dallas. Okay,
Speaker 1: WHI should be a great game and we'll see on
Speaker 1: Dak's shoulder. But it's fair to say that if there's
Speaker 1: a team that has the talent, at least in the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football to put up some huge numbers,
Speaker 1: it's the Dallas Cowboys were okay with that? Well, I
Speaker 1: would say that their favorite in that game. They're only
Speaker 1: an underdog in one game. Do you want to guess
Speaker 1: who the Bucks are underdogs against the Rams in the week? Correct?
Speaker 1: So there, I think the Rams are better than the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't know so. But the point is they have
Speaker 1: a new defense, defensive coordinator. We'll see, but at a
Speaker 1: new quarterback. But but here's the thing. The point is
Speaker 1: that I'm with you on on Warren Sharp and what
Speaker 1: it looks like and the easier schedule whatever, like, we
Speaker 1: got no idea what somebody's gonna look like. I do.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on on the Saints on paper, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have Michael Thomas. You don't know any quarterback
Speaker 1: is going to be um. They were kind of capped out,
Speaker 1: they went all in the past couple of years. They're
Speaker 1: probably not going to be as good. That said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you go to the middle of the season when they
Speaker 1: play them, and if Jamis has won the job by then,
Speaker 1: Jai Jamis can spin it and stretch the field. Also, also,
Speaker 1: the home road is going to be completely different this
Speaker 1: year with people not only in the stands, but they
Speaker 1: haven't been in the stands in a year, and you're
Speaker 1: the defending champs. Like all of a sudden, road environments
Speaker 1: are more difficult to win. And oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: if you start out the year one and two like
Speaker 1: you see, it doesn't like I gotta understand that you're
Speaker 1: better than New England and Miami in Philadelphia. Okay, understand
Speaker 1: all those things. But the idea is that that when
Speaker 1: you have a team that comes off of Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: some guys took less money to stay, you start out
Speaker 1: one and two and people start pointing fingers. That's that's
Speaker 1: the way I love drama. I'm not creating drama, you are.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the reality of sports. Is we all
Speaker 1: look at these these we all do the mic and
Speaker 1: the mad though that's a win, it's a loss, it's
Speaker 1: a win, dog, Dog, that's a that's a win, that's
Speaker 1: a win. Right, we all do. We all do this
Speaker 1: stupid crap, but we can't tell well, those guys don't
Speaker 1: know this because it's not clue because you're dealing with
Speaker 1: you're dealing with data as of now, right, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what Vegas is looking at those guys a
Speaker 1: little bit more than two. Uh, you know schmucks in
Speaker 1: New York. Okay, the reality of their win tunnles from
Speaker 1: last year. And see what they killed it last year.
Speaker 1: Look at the Tampa Bay Bucks and how they're favored
Speaker 1: in every single game except one. And look how they
Speaker 1: did last year's favorites. They were pretty darn good. They
Speaker 1: struggled in the games where again they were playing teams
Speaker 1: better than them. And the newness of the Tampa is
Speaker 1: now worn off. I'm telling you, I know it sounds
Speaker 1: silly to say, oh, they could go undefeated. No team
Speaker 1: in the modern era Doug has returned every starter on
Speaker 1: offensive defense. It has not happened from a Super Bowl champ. Sure,
Speaker 1: And it's not like there are a bunch of fossils
Speaker 1: like the Lakers growing and grab and Russell Westbrook. These
Speaker 1: guys are in their prime, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. I
Speaker 1: mean they go out and add the running back Geo Bernard, Right,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Geobert, what is either third running back? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could be James White, who was
Speaker 1: the like a Super Bowl MVP for Tom Brady. Like
Speaker 1: there is Seriously, the offensive line is unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only thing if you want to quibble, do they
Speaker 1: have depth in the secondary, like behind their top three corners, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, we're outstanding in the super Bowl thanks
Speaker 1: to an incredible pass rush. Like Doug, I'm not even
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady fan. I respect it. Like in the eighties,
Speaker 1: I grew up, I was a Magic Johnson guy. I
Speaker 1: did not like Larry Burden, the Celtics. I was born
Speaker 1: in New York. I didn't like anything Boston. I did
Speaker 1: not like Tom Brady. Now I've interviewed him twice. Super
Speaker 1: nice guy. I respect what he's done. He's the greatest,
Speaker 1: and he's got a stack team. And I'm just telling you, Doug,
Speaker 1: when they are eight no and just motoring, you're, oh, well,
Speaker 1: there's a potential roadbup up ahead. This team is going
Speaker 1: to annihilate some folks annihilate. They are so stacked, Doug.
Speaker 1: And the schedule is a cakewalk, and you schule how
Speaker 1: good was it was Tom Brady last year? I would
Speaker 1: say he was. He was like a top fifteen quarterback
Speaker 1: in the first part of the season, maybe for the
Speaker 1: first three fifths of the season, and once that tweek
Speaker 1: twelve got by and they had the bye week, they
Speaker 1: really started to take over. Tom Brady was outstanding. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was definitely a top ten quarterback in the final
Speaker 1: eight weeks of the season. Huh. Yeah, tom Brady was
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback the final eight weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: postseason and regular season ten quarterback. He had three turnovers
Speaker 1: against Green Bay in the NFC Championship. He didn't play well.
Speaker 1: He didn't play well against Washington. Uh. He wasn't ticularly
Speaker 1: good against New Orleans Saints either, So he was he did.
Speaker 1: He played well against against the Kansas City Chiefs, who
Speaker 1: had no shot because their offensive line was in tatters.
Speaker 1: But so of the four games they played in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he played really well in the first half against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and he played well in the Super Bowl. Um, but
Speaker 1: I mean like kind of along for the ride, right
Speaker 1: when they when they won the last four games, like
Speaker 1: the idea time out, time out, Doug tom Brady was
Speaker 1: along for the ride. Yeah, yeah, I would, I would.
Speaker 1: Can we get a Bucks player? From my thought, I
Speaker 1: felt zero chance. He was not the leader in that
Speaker 1: locker room. No, No, he's the only guy who's want anything.
Speaker 1: But this is what this is what you do though
Speaker 1: for the ride, yes, he was a he's at Yes, Tom,
Speaker 1: what can we do for you in the locker room?
Speaker 1: How what can I? How can I? Well, no question,
Speaker 1: no question. There's a leadership intangible that he has that
Speaker 1: is unspoken. And what they did in the first half
Speaker 1: I thought energized. That energized the defense for the second half. Right,
Speaker 1: But there is at some point, at point there's a
Speaker 1: reason guy's retire. You know what that reason is because
Speaker 1: you get old and you can't make the same throws.
Speaker 1: This is the same guy who remember, forgot what down?
Speaker 1: It was the same guy. It's the same guy. It's
Speaker 1: the same guy. That's what happens when you get older.
Speaker 1: You're a tick slower, you miss on throws. The attrition
Speaker 1: of an additional game in the season does kind of
Speaker 1: get to you. Gay. They had, they had a dream
Speaker 1: end to a season which was up very much up
Speaker 1: and down, right, But trying to repeat that dream is
Speaker 1: a lot more difficult in practice than it is going
Speaker 1: it's a win, it's a win. It's a win. It's
Speaker 1: a win. We talk about practice. So the point, the
Speaker 1: point is this, like you're taking a snapshot of the
Speaker 1: best of Tom Brady and saying, Okay, you put the
Speaker 1: best of Tom Brady with all of these guys that
Speaker 1: are coming back, and they're gonna win every game. And
Speaker 1: the point is that he's not really a top ten
Speaker 1: quarterback anymore in terms of his tangibles. His intangibles are
Speaker 1: off the charts, off the charts. Nobody can walk in with,
Speaker 1: you know, all with with all those Super Bowl rings
Speaker 1: guy and and command respect, and he's an indefatigable worker.
Speaker 1: But let's at at some point they all get old.
Speaker 1: They just do. Jason Kidd couldn't make a layup in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, couldn't make a layup. They just get old.
Speaker 1: The throws they used to be able to make, they
Speaker 1: couldn't make. Brett Farve got a old. Peyton Manning got
Speaker 1: pick hay Manning when they won the Super Bowl his
Speaker 1: last year or was it uh nine touchdowns seventeen interceptions,
Speaker 1: I mean, go back and watch the Super Bowl was embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Could throw a football Pro Football Focus last year, number
Speaker 1: one quarterback according to stats, Aaron Rodgers, number two, Tom Brady. Okay,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the number two quarterback. He wasn't better. I
Speaker 1: mean Russell Wilson threw too many picks at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, but he wasn't better than Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: or Patty Russell. It's great. I'm just I'm telling you
Speaker 1: can go pro football focus all you want. The reality
Speaker 1: is no one. I mean, look, Josh Allen had had
Speaker 1: a much better year than he had than than Tom
Speaker 1: Brady had last year, not really close. So I mean like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who watches the Chargers practice down the
Speaker 1: street from me. Hey, there's no better. If I told
Speaker 1: you the talent that they have on that roster, You're like, dude,
Speaker 1: they should mop up teams love it. Problem is they're
Speaker 1: never healthy. Hey, and so you're you're taking a snapshot
Speaker 1: of now and going if the best of all scenarios,
Speaker 1: everybody is healthy and all these teams live down to
Speaker 1: their reputation the Tampa But that's not the way this
Speaker 1: foot That's what makes football special is on a weekly basis, truly, truly,
Speaker 1: anything can happen, and we don't usually get the results
Speaker 1: that we expect, especially when we expect them to be
Speaker 1: kind of championship level results. All right, take it a
Speaker 1: New York up coming next. He's Jason McIntyre I'm Doug gottlieb. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, well, what do we make of Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: pretty boy quarterback? One start in the preseason under his belt.
Speaker 1: And then, speaking of guys that look great in the preseason,
Speaker 1: what are the Giant's gonna do at quarterback? Do they
Speaker 1: have their guy? When will we see say Quan? Alright?
Speaker 1: All things New York Football? Fo yano Jason McIntyre. I'm
Speaker 1: Doug gottlieb that's upcoming next in The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1: All Right, we know who the quarterback is in Tampa. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think we both agree that something's up in New England? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Jason? Right? Something something's up? I mean, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I mean, Cam knows something's going on and it's
Speaker 1: not pretty. It's pretty not good right now? Pretty not good.
Speaker 1: That sounds blown smart, right, That's that's really good. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's one of those ones that you like, I
Speaker 1: always feel like English is like traveling in basketball, Like
Speaker 1: when you do it, you're like, oh, did I just travel? Pretty?
Speaker 1: He's not good? Yeah? Pretty pretty pretty, not pretty not good.
Speaker 1: Ralph Fiacciano joins us. Of course, he's NFL Insider for
Speaker 1: s n Y covers the Giants and the Jets. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, two guys who two teams who at least
Speaker 1: know who their quarterbacks are. Let's start with the Jets
Speaker 1: Gay Flavor of the Month Zach Wilson. There were there
Speaker 1: was some lowering of expectation for the first preseason game.
Speaker 1: Then Wilson looks like a legitimate quarterback in at we
Speaker 1: see him in a preseason but it's like a preseason game. Row.
Speaker 1: What's what's the word of Jets camp over there? Their
Speaker 1: their thoughts now couple months into the Zach will Snake Speriman. Oh,
Speaker 1: they couldn't be happier with him, honestly, you know, they
Speaker 1: they think he's done everything they've asked him to do.
Speaker 1: They're not even really worried about performance on the field.
Speaker 1: You know, he looked fine in the preseason game. He
Speaker 1: was efficient. You know, he made a couple of throws,
Speaker 1: made a couple of bad throws. It's kind of been
Speaker 1: like his practices on some good, some bad. But for them,
Speaker 1: they've been throwing a lot at him. They liked that
Speaker 1: he's learning the playbook quickly. He's showed a lot of
Speaker 1: leadership with his teammates. You know, I think they're they're
Speaker 1: willing to ride out the rookie ways that they still
Speaker 1: think his upside is just you know, to outstanding as
Speaker 1: far as their concerned Ralph I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: I like to call him the Mormon Mahomes. I cannot
Speaker 1: say enough about how impressed I was with the young
Speaker 1: kid in the pocket against the Giants. And I know
Speaker 1: the Giants didn't play that many of their quality players,
Speaker 1: but the Jets offensive line look capable. The skill position
Speaker 1: players were money. There's clearly a connection with Corey Davis.
Speaker 1: I don't know, am I getting crazy thing and the
Speaker 1: maybe Salah and Laflora can coax his team into like
Speaker 1: a close to five hundred this season or is that insane?
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think it's totally insane. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure my expectations are that high, and only because
Speaker 1: they're gonna be really young and they have young players
Speaker 1: playing all over the field. They have not been shy
Speaker 1: about giving them first team reps in training camp. Obviously
Speaker 1: you saw a lot of them, even on defense in
Speaker 1: the game against the Giants. When I see that many
Speaker 1: young players, I just think that, you know, when the
Speaker 1: games start for real, when it's crunch time, you're gonna
Speaker 1: see more mistakes than you are. You know, good players,
Speaker 1: but you know, look, the Jets are so much better
Speaker 1: talent wise than the two or more team mess they
Speaker 1: were last year. They're gonna be better coached. You know,
Speaker 1: can they get I would you know say they could
Speaker 1: probably get to six wins. It's not much belief from
Speaker 1: there to five hundreds. So I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it will depend on the quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's discuss the Giants on the other hand.
Speaker 1: Right first, what what what's the status to say Quon
Speaker 1: Barkley in terms of the likehood he plays week one
Speaker 1: of the season, they're hopeful, which is the best I
Speaker 1: can get out of anybody. Um, you know, they don't know.
Speaker 1: They think he's on track, they think everything's going well.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's kind of two steps forward with
Speaker 1: him and then they pull back intentionally so they don't
Speaker 1: overwork him. Um, you know, hopeful is the best that
Speaker 1: anyone the organization will say. But if he looked good
Speaker 1: when he was out there, you know, running against nobody,
Speaker 1: so it's all been positive so far. I wonder Ralph
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is the spotlight on him as much as
Speaker 1: anyone in that entire organization, because he's this ballyhooed offensive
Speaker 1: mind and I gotta be honest, I didn't see it
Speaker 1: last year out of Danny Dimes. Um. You know, there's
Speaker 1: talk of the entire coaching staff getting gutted if they
Speaker 1: don't make a move this year, but they're playing in
Speaker 1: the worst division in the NFL. Do you think Garrett
Speaker 1: survives the season as EOC Oh? Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think the season definitely. Um, could there be changes if
Speaker 1: they if the offense struggles again, Yeah, it would depend
Speaker 1: on some circumstances. I think when they looked at last year,
Speaker 1: what they looked at was a young offensive line that
Speaker 1: had some injury issues, a quarterback that was really banged
Speaker 1: up the second half of the season. Obviously no se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley, you know, roster with no real number one receiver.
Speaker 1: With all of that, you know, Jason Garrett was in
Speaker 1: a tough spot. And I'm not defending the job he did.
Speaker 1: I think he was a terrible season for him, But
Speaker 1: there were so many reasons for why what happened happened
Speaker 1: that they were willing to give him another year. If
Speaker 1: they're healthy, they get Barkley back and Jones's back, and
Speaker 1: the offense still stinks. Yeah, absolutely, They've got Freddy Kitchens
Speaker 1: on staff, who could be the easy guy to plug in.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, but you know, yeah, they got an
Speaker 1: experience that they've just got. They have guys that could
Speaker 1: possibly replace eventually. And he's you know, he's an old
Speaker 1: friend and Joe Judge. Um, okay, let's let's let's let's
Speaker 1: get to the elephant in the room. Is Daniel Jones? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: wowed people his first preseason. There have been moments so
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, the turnovers are just a huge issue,
Speaker 1: but like, look, you know, you you got to give
Speaker 1: him something to work with. If if they have se Quon,
Speaker 1: they got something to work with. Like, where are we
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones in year three? He has very to
Speaker 1: be determined with Daniel Jones. He certainly last year didn't
Speaker 1: play well early, especially then he got hurt, and very
Speaker 1: quietly last year he cut back on the turnovers late
Speaker 1: in the season, which I think the Giants are sort
Speaker 1: of grasping as a sign of his growth. You know,
Speaker 1: they believe in the second year of an offense, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, more comfortable with it, less thinking on the field,
Speaker 1: he should be a lot better. But you know, this
Speaker 1: is a big year, you know, in the NFL, you
Speaker 1: don't get more than three years as a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: before a team start to have to think about moving on.
Speaker 1: So the Giants are saying all the right things about him,
Speaker 1: even privately they say they believe in him. But on
Speaker 1: the field, certainly, there's been nothing since his rookie season
Speaker 1: that I can grasp on to and tell you, yes,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely the guy. I still need to see it, hey, Ralphaul.
Speaker 1: One last question on the NFC East. I need for
Speaker 1: you to rank the quarterbacks in the division right now.
Speaker 1: Who if you were, you know, a head coach or
Speaker 1: a GM I want you to rank who you'd won
Speaker 1: as quarterback of the four starters in the division. Well,
Speaker 1: I want Dak Prescott. I think that's an easy one.
Speaker 1: You know. To me, Tala wise, he's the best. Experience wise,
Speaker 1: he's the best. Numbers wise, he's been the best. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how any of the rest of them
Speaker 1: compare to him. You know, I know they in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: they love their young quarterback and they think he's got
Speaker 1: some promise, and maybe he does, but I didn't see
Speaker 1: enough of it last year. And the same with Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know nothing. Nothing any of them
Speaker 1: have shown me over the years or even there there
Speaker 1: there's a short time in the NFL makes me believe
Speaker 1: they're better than Dak Prescott. If he's healthy, that's the
Speaker 1: big question with him. You got to tell me he's healthy. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know yet. I got to see
Speaker 1: that for myself. But um, if he's healthy, he's the
Speaker 1: best in the division. And so the worst would be
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or Danny Dimes. Oh boy, yeah, it's yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean Ryan Fitzpatrick, he gets it done. He's not a
Speaker 1: guy that I would want and say you got to
Speaker 1: carry me to the playoffs. But you've got the right
Speaker 1: team around him. You know, you can get to five
Speaker 1: hundred or so with him. You know, he wins some games.
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen Daniel Jones do that yet. So yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, you might put Daniel Jones down, if not
Speaker 1: at the bottom in the bottom two. Wow, Okay, good stuff, Ralph, Ralph, Ralph.
Speaker 1: When you when you're around these teams, like when you
Speaker 1: go to camp, you can just there's just a vibe
Speaker 1: you can just kind of tell that looks Sometimes you
Speaker 1: can get fooled a little bit. Sometimes injuries derail it.
Speaker 1: But you can usually tell when a team feels like
Speaker 1: they got something or when a team feels like Jets
Speaker 1: and Giants give me your give me your honest sense
Speaker 1: of what they think, what it feels like, the type
Speaker 1: of season they're gonna have a right when I when
Speaker 1: I when I'm at the Giants, they feel kind of
Speaker 1: to me, they you know, I don't think it's bad.
Speaker 1: I think they think they'll be a little better than
Speaker 1: last year. But they don't have the air of confidence
Speaker 1: of a playoff team, like we know we got this.
Speaker 1: There's they're hoping that they got this. The Jets, you know,
Speaker 1: if they're overconfident over there. They you talk to them,
Speaker 1: they think they are building something special. You know, I
Speaker 1: kind of agree, and I think that they're heading in
Speaker 1: the right direction. I think it'll take a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but I think those young players think, why can't we
Speaker 1: do it this year? Why can't we be a playoff team? Now?
Speaker 1: That's a big leap, but you know, they feel like
Speaker 1: it's been a breath of fresh air with Robert Salo.
Speaker 1: They think they've finally got a better team built the
Speaker 1: right way. They feel like they're they got something over
Speaker 1: there that you know, maybe the rest of the NFL
Speaker 1: is sleeping on. All right, great stuff, Well, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Really appreciate you being on the
Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show. My pleasure or any thanks. Ralph.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Ralph Facciano from s n Y covered
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Um it's it's it's true. It's like
Speaker 1: there's there's three camps in southern California, right, if you
Speaker 1: you can go to the Cowboys usually train their back
Speaker 1: in Dallas now, but they go to Oxnard and then
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Chargers are I mean I it's
Speaker 1: like ten minutes as the crow fly, right, it's hard
Speaker 1: to get there sometimes in ten and ten minutes is
Speaker 1: not a not a huge traffic area, but there are
Speaker 1: some lights and you gotta go on the toll road
Speaker 1: and whatever. But the point is, I'm telling you, Jason,
Speaker 1: if you go to these teams, you can kind of
Speaker 1: tell if you if you're around the team enough, they'll
Speaker 1: start to go like, yeah, I don't know, right, which
Speaker 1: I don't. No means they do know, it's just not
Speaker 1: good or like listen, don't tell you know you don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me, but we got something here, and
Speaker 1: I think you can. If you're around teams enough. It
Speaker 1: just takes a couple of days. You can tell who's
Speaker 1: who's got something? Is this? You're on board to the
Speaker 1: big news that just broke on the NFL. Now, what's
Speaker 1: what's that? Go ahead? Oh, I guess you are? I
Speaker 1: texted you, Doug Tim Sorry, I was released by the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. All right, let's talk about that. So depressing,
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Speaker 1: Jason mcintarian for Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick's Show,
Speaker 1: Fox the Sports Radio. Adam schefter has supported that Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow released by the Jaguars. Now, you weren't here yesterday, Jason,
Speaker 1: But I had to fend off claims of white privilege
Speaker 1: from Rob Parker. Please to why Tim Tebow got an
Speaker 1: opportunity with his former college coach. Stop Now, Rob, Rob
Speaker 1: is a friend. He doesn't want to host shows with
Speaker 1: me anymore because he's scared I destroy all of his
Speaker 1: arguments really badly. But yeah, that's idiotic on his part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, we all get opportunities based upon
Speaker 1: the relationships that we have. That just is I mean,
Speaker 1: like it's called life. Yes, No, I've I've told I
Speaker 1: tell people all the time. It's like my son during
Speaker 1: when everything was shut down in COVID, Right, we all
Speaker 1: got kind of shows, right, Like, oh, I got got
Speaker 1: into and he really got into Survivor. And I hadn't
Speaker 1: watched Survivor since the first season, and the more I
Speaker 1: watched it with him, I was like, this is a
Speaker 1: really important show. Did you know that Survivor is probably
Speaker 1: the most important show in the history of television? Jason?
Speaker 1: I did not know that. And it breaks my heart
Speaker 1: to hear such nonsenses that I do not No, no,
Speaker 1: I understand the impact of it, but I no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you do never never seen an episode. Okay, so then
Speaker 1: how do you understand what I was getting? Well, I
Speaker 1: know how the impact it had. It was it basically
Speaker 1: was the first reality show on network TV. Right, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, look what happened with that? And I
Speaker 1: think Big Brother were about the same time. But yes,
Speaker 1: um my point is is more, look what what pushed
Speaker 1: me away from the show? I like, Naked and Afraid
Speaker 1: was what I thought it was gonna kind of be. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know who time, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1: Naked and Afraid. You've never seen No, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: any reality TV dude. Naked Afraid. They drop two people
Speaker 1: who are kind of quasi survivalist summer survivalists, like in
Speaker 1: some sort of jungle. They get like one or two
Speaker 1: items in the satchel to cover their and not not
Speaker 1: nothing really else. Really they're naked when they meet each other,
Speaker 1: and they but they have to somehow survive out in
Speaker 1: the wilderness for like twenty one days, right, Like that's
Speaker 1: sounds awful. It does sound awful, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: awesome to watch. Okay. Anyway, the point is that I
Speaker 1: thought Survivor was going to be about surviving, and instead
Speaker 1: it's about what it's about, alliances and relationships and double crossing.
Speaker 1: And I told him, I was like, look, this is
Speaker 1: an important show because this is what life is. Okay.
Speaker 1: Life is not as much about what you know. It's
Speaker 1: about who you know and how you can operate under
Speaker 1: the Okay, Like I'm tied to this person, but I
Speaker 1: don't like this person that much. I like this person,
Speaker 1: but they're one of the weaker ones and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be and this one's a now fun I got to
Speaker 1: kind of get along and I gotta figure out how
Speaker 1: to win the group. That's how life is, Okay. It's
Speaker 1: the old who you knows more than what you know.
Speaker 1: And Tim Tebow of course wins at life because people
Speaker 1: genuinely like him when they're around him. He has that,
Speaker 1: he has that positive energy that people are looking for,
Speaker 1: and he got that opportunity. I actually think like trying
Speaker 1: and putting yourself out there as bad as the film
Speaker 1: was of in blocking during their preseason game, like, that's
Speaker 1: why guys don't switch positions like that, That's why guys
Speaker 1: don't come out of retirement. Like that that because the
Speaker 1: film is gonna make you look like a fool, like
Speaker 1: an absolute fool. And he was a great football player
Speaker 1: in college, not good great in the conversation, in the
Speaker 1: conversation of greatest college football players ever. And so what
Speaker 1: happens is now, you know, like fifteen years after the fact, people,
Speaker 1: he's the punchline to so many jokes. But it's like
Speaker 1: he put himself out there. I actually respect it that
Speaker 1: he tried, and I respect that er Meyers, like I
Speaker 1: get him a shot. And when it became painfully obvious,
Speaker 1: you couldn't keep him round anymore. And you cut down
Speaker 1: to eighty five, you cut Tim Tebow and and you
Speaker 1: shake his hand and you say, hey, thanks, Yeah, Doug,
Speaker 1: I echo everything you said. I'm shocked we are in
Speaker 1: such lock step on Tebow. Um, I love this story,
Speaker 1: even though he did not make the team, and he
Speaker 1: didn't even make it past the first cuts. Like we
Speaker 1: are what we become thanks to failure. The only way
Speaker 1: you get better at life, in anything is failing. If
Speaker 1: you don't try and fail, you're not trying there. It's
Speaker 1: just that's not how life works. And I heard a
Speaker 1: great quote. Um, I heard a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: No such thing as success or failure. There's just stepping stones.
Speaker 1: And that's all this is for Tebow, a stepping stone.
Speaker 1: He's going to do big things. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of this disclosure on this poors,
Speaker 1: closure on this person. Yeah, and now he moves on
Speaker 1: to our next one, which which I don't know. If
Speaker 1: he goes and becomes a pastor, I'd say he'll be
Speaker 1: will be. No, I've been. I've been told like that.
Speaker 1: And for people who think like this is about marketing,
Speaker 1: like the guys that handled his marketing, they told him
Speaker 1: a long time ago, like, dude, you should be the
Speaker 1: next Billy Graham. Right, you can be the next Billy Graham.
Speaker 1: People will follow. You can preach in where you can
Speaker 1: fill stadiums in the South, you can go all over
Speaker 1: the world. And and you know, I like a show
Speaker 1: called and have you never you ever watched Billions? I
Speaker 1: love Billions? Okay, okay, so uh so Billions. In the
Speaker 1: first episode, right, there's the famous line, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the point of having f you money if you never
Speaker 1: say f you? Right? But what's what's the point of
Speaker 1: being able to like, Hey, I could go play pro
Speaker 1: I mean, I could go try and play pro baseball. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a shot. Okay, you know it was weird.
Speaker 1: Come back, I come back and play football, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a shot. Okay, Like what it was weird?
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan back in the day quit the NBA and said,
Speaker 1: I want to go live my lifelong dream of trying
Speaker 1: to make a baseball team. So he goes to try
Speaker 1: to play for the White Sox and everybody cheered it, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's following his dream. That's cool. He's won championships, he's
Speaker 1: the greatest player ever, blah blah blah. Go for it, Mike,
Speaker 1: And then you know Tim Tebow tries to do the
Speaker 1: same thing. Well, I'm gonna switch positions. I want to
Speaker 1: try the NFL one more time. Even though I kind
Speaker 1: of petered out ended ugly, I went and play baseball.
Speaker 1: I want to come back to the NFL. Well, Tebow
Speaker 1: stealing someone's job. He's trying to be like the fourth
Speaker 1: string tight end. Okay, And it's just weird to see
Speaker 1: the disliked tortebo does. I am curious. I have tried
Speaker 1: to drill down on this multiple times. On my podcast
Speaker 1: on the radio show I used to host. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand why people don't like Tim Tebow. And I
Speaker 1: know it's a social media thing and it's easy to hate.
Speaker 1: I call Twitter a haters cauldron. Is it the religious stuff?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it something else? Is it the Florida
Speaker 1: Championships and like dominating? Is it not being able to
Speaker 1: throw and being drafted in the first round. I mean,
Speaker 1: you said Cam Newton can't throw a football, like Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow really could not throw a football. He still did
Speaker 1: win a playoff game where the game touchdown past memorable.
Speaker 1: I know the receiver did most of it. I just talk.
Speaker 1: I want to take a second and ask you, why
Speaker 1: do you think people have such a visceral dislike for
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow? Um, I think people are there's a good
Speaker 1: portion of people that don't like religion in sports. Oh gosh, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's disappointing. No. I just think it's just
Speaker 1: like they don't they feel like it's like shoved down
Speaker 1: their throat, Like and then I watched football. To watch football,
Speaker 1: It's it's no different than politics, right you Just like
Speaker 1: if I want politics, I'll turn to watch politics. But
Speaker 1: I want religion. I'll watch religion or what sports. I think.
Speaker 1: I think a good portion of it, though, was the
Speaker 1: people that were Tebow fans were so over the top
Speaker 1: in the um, in the idea in it's it's not him,
Speaker 1: it's the people that follow him. So you don't Tebow
Speaker 1: do get it? So you don't don't get like you
Speaker 1: don't get it, like no, no, like I get it,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I I totally got what they were
Speaker 1: when he was in Denver. It was brilliant in terms
Speaker 1: of what they did right. They shortened the game by
Speaker 1: running the football a ton, you know, very easy kind
Speaker 1: of reads form. If not, you just run the football
Speaker 1: and scramble around back there. They had a great defense,
Speaker 1: They had the best kicker in football, plus to play
Speaker 1: an outsuit so he can kick from like ten yards
Speaker 1: further than anywhere else. And the whole thing kind of
Speaker 1: magically worked together, like long term, it wasn't gonna work,
Speaker 1: and we all knew, and the Denver Broncos knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna work. I don't think it was as much
Speaker 1: Tebow as much as the followers and the passion and
Speaker 1: the glaze look over their eyes. How can you not
Speaker 1: see how great he is like, Okay again, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was as much a reaction to Tebow as
Speaker 1: it is the people who supported Tamo. Yeah, it's almost
Speaker 1: like people want to hate jerks, you know how, Like
Speaker 1: the girls also always go for the bad boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tebow is a good guy. He's a nice human being
Speaker 1: who does good things. Well, there's there's there's another element
Speaker 1: to it, and I want to I want to get
Speaker 1: to that. Plus, um, we've seen bad behavior in stands
Speaker 1: why it could get worse? Next to the Deck Patrick
Speaker 1: Show