1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Third hour of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show starts right now. Everybody, thank you for 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: rolling with us as always. Oh boy, there's some interesting 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: situations playing out right now in the media one of them, 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and I think I think the more we focus in 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: on this, the more we're doing what they want us 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to do. But I don't want it to seem like 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: we're avoiding this case aboording this situation. And it has 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: to do with this this dinner. I mean, Clay, you 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: want to talk about this right this dinner at at 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Mara Lago with Trump? I I will you know what, 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: let me let can I let I'll let you set 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: it up and then I want to get married because 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: my basic inclination these things is I hate that do 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: you denounce you know, do you denounce this person game. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: It's also like you know, people go every time you 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and I have been a Marlago, Trump is like high 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: five in and hanging out with people all over the place. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: It's there are literally hundreds of people that are coming 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: and going. It is a club, yes, it's a private 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: club that people bring guests and everything else. But I 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: also I hate to do you denounce game because it's 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: always really just a version of when did you stop 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: beating your wife? Right? But tell everybody what happened, just 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: because I don't want us to get caught up in 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the way. Are you? Are you guys afraid to talk 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: about it? I'm afraid to talk about it, just not 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: top of the list. So yes, let's start here. There 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: are lots of times Buck, where you are I and 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: we are way down on the celebrity scale pose for 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: a photo or shake someone's hand, and we have no 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: earthly idea who those people are or what they might 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: have done, And I just say, we're so so we're 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: so far down the list that it actually, like really 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: makes us happy, Like it makes my day when people 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: come up to the airport like hey from Buck from 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the Buck claim Buck Show, like you're awesome, and I'm like, yeah, 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: thank you. Where you know, for Brad Pitt, it's an annoyance. 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: For Clay and I were like, I must be having 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: a good hair day. I love getting to meet all 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: of you out there. But every year and every election 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: cycle there are stories and you guys know exactly what 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about did you see this candidate shook hands 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: with this person or posed in a photo with this person. 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, most of the time, 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: you're just trying to be friendly. And I know certainly 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: politicians are doing the same. They have no idea who 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: they are meeting with. Okay, So I actually do believe 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump got completely and totally set up for 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: this story. And if you're not familiar with the story, 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Kanye West asked to meet with Donald Trump. Kanye West 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: came tomorrow lago. He brought this guy with him, who 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna be honest, I had never heard of him. Buck. 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: You said you had heard of him before. This guy, Yeah, 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: he's occasionally popped up here and they're really just on 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: social media and people call him troll. And he showed 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: up and he's he said, he's kind of like been 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a provocateur at some events. But I've heard of him 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: before and I've never met him, never seen him anywhere, 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: never met him personally. Like, I didn't know anything about him. 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: So I feel like the way that this story blew 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: up so quickly, I feel like this was a calculated 64 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: attempt to try to go after Donald Trump. Aggressively. I 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: think Kanye West may well have set him up in 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: some way, But do you think Kanye's I think that 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: people set Kanye up, or rather use Kanye as the 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: trojan horse here to bring in the other people. Like 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: I think Kanye's got problems obvious unfortunately. I think Kanye's 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: got big problems. But this whole meeting and the fact 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: that it's somehow turned into a monstrous story that everybody 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: on the planet seems to be talking. Can we tell 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: everybody what happened? Though yet I'm not sure even our 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: audience knows. So I mean, basically, he went to dinner 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: at Mara Lago with this h guy who is an 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: anti Semite according to the Definite. Again, I don't even 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: know this guy, like most of the time, the white 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: nationalist anti Semite. His name is Nick Fuentes. And then 79 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: there's Kanye and Milo Unopolis, whom I actually know back 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: from the early days of Milo. I had him on 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: my early days radio show when he was working at Breitbart. 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: So and then Milo had had a fall from from 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: from I don't even really remember what it was about, 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: but if so, it was Kanye, Milo Fuentes, and I 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: think one or two other people and I can't even remember. 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: Um a lady who at some point at worked with 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign named Karen I believe, but that's what 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I that's who was at the dinner. I think. Okay, 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: So the fact that he had dinner with Fuentes in 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: particular has turned into a major cultural flash point, and 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: it rapidly spread from oh, my goodness, he had dinner 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: with this person to every Republican on the planet being 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: asked for their opinion about who Trump had had dinner with, 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: and it is prolonged the news cycle to the extent 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: buck where it feels like, basically it's been going on 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: all week. And my position on this in general is, yes, 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: certainly Trump can do a better job and the people 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: around Trump can do a better job of figuring out 99 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: who is dining with and who he's interacting with and 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: all these things. But it feels like a calculated hit 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: job to me on Trump designed to and who exactly 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: is designing it. So, I, yeah, do you have I 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: don't have a theory. I feel like that is the 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: That is my takeaway. And if you are a Trump person, 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why you would be like, oh, 106 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: this was the straw that broke the camel's back. I 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: can't support him anymore. So here's here's what I see 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: from my side us and I'm also I am I'm 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: openly hostile to caring about celebrities outside of what it 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: is that they generally do. Meaning I think that celebrity 111 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: relationship gossip stuff is a giant waste of everybody's time 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: and makes everybody dumber. I have watched a little bit 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: of The Crown, which ties it. I told you, I 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: told you, say Clay, I have responsibilities, sir, I told 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: you this is gonna happen. Every woman on the planet 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: has watched at least one episode of The Crown. But 117 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: but I'm still openly hostile to these concepts. I will 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: say I've carried a lot of the royal family. I'm 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: very much involved in the drama. I love all of 120 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: it anyway. But with Kanye, he actually has gone beyond 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: being a music and fashion and cultural icon to also 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: crossing over a little bit of politics during the first Trump, 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: during Trump's first term or Trump's term, and now obviously 124 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: he's a guy who's back in for saying a lot 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: of bad stuff. And the reason I just I say 126 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: it that way. I'm not trying to in any way 127 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for downplay it. It's just 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he's having a mental you know. I think 129 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: it's like the Will Smith slapping somebody moment, except Kanye 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: is kind of going through that ongoing where he's having 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: real mental health crises. So my sense of this, and 132 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't pay very much attention to certainly I don't 133 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: know these these other characters, is that they see a 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: guy who has a massive, massive celebrity and his immediate clickbait. 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Really right, I mean, anything with Kanye's name on it 136 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: as a headline people are gonna click on, and they 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: attach themselves to him and come up with this idea, 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and look now people are talking about them all of 139 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: the country. I do get the frustration from people who say, well, why, like, 140 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: no one should talk about this incident. I only think 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: it's worth discussing from the standpoint of one. Trump now 142 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: has apparently said that, you know, he thinks this was 143 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: a bad idea. Yeah, yeah, he thinks he got set up. 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: But beyond that, we have to stop playing the games 145 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: by the other side's rules. They love this. Do you 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: denounce like why Kevin McCarthy is denouncing this what obviously 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: doesn't know who this you know, little weirdo is that 148 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: was tagging along for the dinner. It has no idea. 149 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: That's my point on this. Yeah, of course, and so 150 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: and so it's not like Trump is putting his stamp 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: of And they've lied about Trump. They lied about what 152 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Trump said about Charlot's. Well, they lie about Trump all 153 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: the time. And on top of all this, you get 154 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: all these Republicans who are rushing to get a little 155 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: pat on the head from the New York Times for 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: one second for saying, oh, I denounced this. This is terrible? 157 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Did like do they denounce things? And you know, a 158 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: hat tip Mike Sernovit you pointed out on Twitter that 159 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, Barack Obama never was demanded to denounce the 160 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: photo of him with Lewis ferricon that buddy buddy, Right, Yeah, 161 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: why do we do it? I just I hate this. 162 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: People scared they're gonna call you a racist anyway, everybody, 163 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: they're gonna just what happens when you denounced? They saying, well, 164 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: clearly he felt guilty for his ideological sympathies. That's why 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: he wanted to denounce it. They just it's this is 166 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: like dealing with the Gulag and the commissars sitting there 167 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: saying fest or we'll throw you in the Gulag. Anyway, 168 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: there's no upside. I think you're responsible for your own 169 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: actions and your own behavior. I don't like the idea 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: of you're responsible for someone that you took a photo with, 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: or you're responsible for someone at a group dinner that's 172 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: set at your table, right, and every political opinion that 173 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: they have automatically imputes itself to you. But in this 174 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: particular situation, what I do agree with Trump on the 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: setup aspect of it is nobody knows this dude, right, Like, 176 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: by and large, there's no people at the Washington Post. 177 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old. He's got his own political opinions. 178 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure that I disagree with the vast majority of 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: him if he's truly an anti Semite. But the idea 180 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: that this guy is such a significant political figure, that 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Trump was making some sort of calculated attempt to turn 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: his back on Jewish supporters, or that it's an insult 183 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that everybody in the whole political arena needs to be 184 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: responding to. This is where we one hundred percent or 185 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: an agreement. Buck. We got to stop this game. Right 186 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: If if Trump comes out and says something and you 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: disagree with it, and you're a political figure, I think 188 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: that is one hundred percent fair game. That's literally what 189 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: politicians do. They give you ideas and we debate them, 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: and you're either for against him. Who happens to be 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: showing up for a dinner at a table that the 192 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: guy didn't even know that he was going to be there, 193 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: and somehow you're commenting on this. I just think I 194 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: also want to point out a mess. This isn't like 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, George W. Bush isn't at a bumping members 196 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: only club every night with hundreds of people. So this 197 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: is a different context. These people gonna say, well, you 198 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: should do a better job of who you have dinner with. Okay, Yeah, 199 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: obviously this slipped through, and this was this was not 200 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: this was unwise. I'm not going to sit here and 201 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: say that, Well, clearly they've used this to attack him 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: all week now. It's been this. It didn't just happen. 203 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I think it happened moments last front an entire week's 204 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: news cycle. That's I'm at the gym and the gym. 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I will tell you in what I'm in the Florida gym, 206 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the New York gym at CNN all the time, Florida, 207 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Jim Clay Fox at least half. I mean you are 208 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: in the red state America now, brother, Yeah, I'm spending 209 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: spending more time here in the winter because I like 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: it down here in South Florida. Anyway, the put I'm 211 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: back up the New York sometimes, and so I see 212 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: the difference. It's amazing you could tell it's fifty fifty CNN, 213 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: Fox News. CNN has been running with the story like 214 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: it's the biggest story all week. Trump has dinner there, 215 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: and again, I don't even the fact we've been talking 216 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: about it at some level of frustration, but it's been 217 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: such a story that everyone else is using to attack. 218 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: They're they're forcing us on some degree of defense here. 219 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: And I don't even think like Trump shouldn't have to 220 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: defend himself from this in the sense that he has dinner. 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Things that Trump does, this seems to me to be 222 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: so far down the list of things that he's actually 223 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: responsible for. If you want to go out on the 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: laws Jewish and his daughter converted Judy even moved to 225 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: the embassy. I'm not sure there's anybody who is more 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: were beloved in Israel in all of American politics right 227 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: now than Donald Trump. He's clearly not anti Semitic. If 228 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: you want to go after Trump because you don't like 229 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: the statement that he put out about Rhand de Santis 230 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: or Glenn Junkin, like those are very attackable to me 231 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: level disputes and debates that people can get involved in. 232 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: But the idea that this has turned into a week 233 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: long story to me is evidence that it feels like 234 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: to me, somebody was trying to Trump up. I just 235 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: want to point out that the thing about mar Lago 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: is Trump is there, He eats dinner. They have him 237 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of roped off sometimes with secret service, but he's 238 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: just out there and there are all these people who 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: are there, and they come over, they want to shake 240 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: his hand, the wan to take photos of them, People 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: join him ad hoc. And this is night after night 242 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: after night, so it's not you know, Trump is almost 243 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: like a restaurant tour and people are coming and going 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: from his restaurant all the time. So when you think 245 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: of it in that context, it's much more understandable how 246 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. You know, how often do I 247 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: sit down and have dinner with like three random people? Well? Never, 248 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: But I'm not running mor lago. I don't own it, 249 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: so it's different. I also think buck the bigger picture here. 250 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: Intent matters, right, If you're going to criticize somebody, make 251 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: sure that they are intending to do something right. There 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: was no intent here on Trump's behalf. That's why I say, 253 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: if you want to rip some of these public statements 254 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: that he puts out about, like I said, Rond De Santis, 255 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Clay Young and whatever else, those are fair game. But 256 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: he didn't intend to sit down to dinner with this guy. Now, 257 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: if you want to criticize his staff and say, oh, 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: they've got to do a better job of figuring out 259 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: every single person's background who was sitting at the table 260 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: with him, I would also say this. This is the 261 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: celebrity angle, Kanye West, whoever the people are. He's a 262 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: global celebrity, and Trump loves celebrities. But he's got an entourage. Right. 263 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Let the super Bowl twenty twenty. 264 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilders, the heavyweight champion of the world. We were 265 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: doing a show with him twenty people rolled in with 266 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder. Twenty people buck like an entourage the likes 267 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: of which I have rarely seen. We got pictures taken 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: with everybody in that entourage. We hook hung out with him. 269 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea what any of the people Indiante 270 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Wilder's entourage do for a living, what backgrounds they have 271 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the celebrity culture, I don't think it's uncommon if you 272 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: roll into a Hollywood club, or if you're at Mara Lago, 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: or you're any of these places the entourage. Nobody knows 274 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: who's involved in the entourage. And and it just but 275 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: on the Republicans because that's the other part of this too. 276 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: I think we could have ignored it, except all these Republicans, 277 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy or now the soon to be House Majority Leader, 278 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: all these Republicans are, oh, you know, it's so terrible, 279 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and I need to I need to know we were 280 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: We don't. We have nothing to do with white Nashalists, 281 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: We have nothing to do with anti semit everybody. Everyone 282 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: hates them, like, don't do this thing. We're always you know, 283 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: And that that's what the part of this that frustrates 284 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: me is we play by the rules. The other side 285 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: is using in bad faith to create news cycles to 286 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: undermine our team. And also, I'll say this, man, do 287 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: your point about legitimate? This is illegitimate criticism of Trump 288 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: from from within the right? Uh. This A lot of 289 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: people see this and they see what other Republican elected 290 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: officials are doing, and they're saying, this is actually why 291 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: we need Trump because these guys are cowards. Because the 292 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: first moment they get any pressure, anyone says, oh, be 293 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: easy to me. You know, you don't want to be called, 294 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, a white nationalist or an anti Semite, they 295 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: run for cover and it's like, well, there's no reason 296 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: that you should be called those things because you're not. 297 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: So why are you being a weirdo about it? Just 298 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: tossing this out too. Generally speaking, you would not expect 299 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: for a guy in Kanye west entourage to be a 300 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: super racist just about nationalist, That's right, That's that's I mean, like, 301 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: I think it's not crazy for Donald Trump to expect 302 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: that that a black guy is not rolling around with 303 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: with with white supremacist and they call trumpell I mean, 304 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: to be fair, Also, they've been calling Trump at white 305 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: nationalists for years. 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She is now I think, just basically 361 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: representing her San Francisco area district. And she is of 362 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: course no longer the speaker, and Hakim Jeffries has replaced 363 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. And I want to give credit here too. 364 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: I believe it's Greg Price who tweeted this out, but 365 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: he had done a little bit of a deep dive 366 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: into Hakim Jeffreys Twitter history and Buck really major threat 367 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: to democracy here. It seems that Democrats are now led 368 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: in the House by an election denier. I don't know 369 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: whether they're going to have an investigation into this, but 370 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: here is Achim Jeffreys. The more we learn about twenty 371 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: sixteen election, the more all caps illegitimate it becomes. America 372 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: deserves to know whether we have a fake president all 373 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: caps in the Oval office hashtag Russian interference. So, Buck, 374 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: I've been told, and I know you have two, that 375 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: it is completely unacceptable to question the outcome of any 376 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: election or else our democracy itself is in peril. Will 377 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: anyone we just talked about this ridiculous story from Trump 378 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: where everybody has walked around and ask questions, Oh, do 379 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: you condemn Donald Trump for having dinner with Will anybody 380 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: in the media working in the United States Capital ask 381 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: any Democrat whether they condemn Hakim Jefferies denying the outcome 382 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: of the twenty sixteen election. Will there be a single 383 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: question asked about this? Just compare it to how the 384 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Trump dinner has been covered and how eager Republicans have 385 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: been to run out and give their own condemnation. I 386 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: bet there's not a single question to ask about the 387 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: tweet that I just read to you. Nope. And I 388 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: do always like to put out this, uh, this proviso, 389 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: this um, this framework, that it's important to discuss the hypocrisy. 390 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: But understand that they know they're doing it too. They 391 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: do it because they can, right, They do it because 392 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: they know the media is completely in their pocket and 393 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: on their side. So of course they're not going to 394 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: ask the relevant question based on the standards that they 395 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: set for Republicans, because they're not actually standards. They're just 396 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: excuses for attacking Republicans. Right. That's by the way, I 397 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: was talking about not denouncing. Think of all the people 398 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: that were being asked, you know, do you denounce the 399 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: twenty twenty stolen election claims? How many people have been 400 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: asked running for office to denounce the Russia collusion lunacy? 401 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not. What is more believable when we're 402 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: talking about stolen elections? What's a bigger what? What? What's 403 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: a bigger leap? That there were people who manufactured, meaning 404 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: they filled out ballots that were freely floating all over 405 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: the place, collected them, harvest them illegally. I mean, I'm 406 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: not saying that happened even I'm just saying, what's more 407 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: believable that that happened in a COVID year with some 408 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: states going to universal mail and registration, etc. Or that 409 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had a secret plan with Vladimberg Prutin of 410 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: Russia to hack into voting machines and to change the 411 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: vote totals because the wonderful candidate Hillary Clinton really actually won. 412 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Which one of those sounds crazier. What's amazing, Clay to 413 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: the Libs, the one, the one about Russia, is much 414 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: more believable to them to this day, and they never 415 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: get asked to denounce it, and they never get held 416 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: accountable for all the lies that they spread. And I 417 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: just think it's really interesting that a guy with election 418 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: denying in his background is now the leader of the 419 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: House of Democrats and there will be almost no questions 420 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: asked about it. And building on the idea of condemning 421 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: Trump for that dinner for a moment here, if you 422 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: don't think Trump should be the nominee for twenty twenty four, 423 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: just own it and say it. Don't be a sniveling 424 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: whiney little brat who's trying to act like this dinner 425 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: is such a big story that you have to rush 426 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and say something about it. Just own it. If you 427 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: want to support somebody else because you think they are 428 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: a better political candidate than Donald Trump, don't hide behind 429 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: a dinner and use it as an excuse to take 430 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: a shot at Trump. Just own your opinion that you 431 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: don't think he should be the nominee in twenty twenty four, 432 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: because at least have a spine, at least have the 433 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: willingness to tell people what you actually think there, as 434 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: opposed to running around and saying, oh, it's unacceptable who 435 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: he had dinner with. I mean, we're gonna been more 436 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: time in this country with the media covering Donald Trump's 437 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: dinner with a dude that nobody even knew. Right, It's 438 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: not like this guy is super famous. Most of you 439 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: out there had no idea who this guy that was 440 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: supposedly so unacceptable to have dined with, just like Trump didn't. 441 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: And so I mean, if David Duke could come to 442 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: Mara Lago and set down, Okay, David Duke, you know, 443 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: has a history. Trump should know him. He shouldn't have 444 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: dinner with him. But you know, the only time anyone 445 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: ever hears about David Duke Clay is a Republicans running 446 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: or a white supremacist. Every four years there's some journalist 447 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: who will find a Republican Candidas say, do you denounce 448 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: David Duke? I mean literally, I don't even know if 449 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: that guy is still alive. I have no idea that 450 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: that's how shit they are to find somebody who they 451 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: can actually classify as a white supremacist, because they're so 452 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: rare in this country. Right. They always tell us about 453 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: the threat of white supremacy and how Trump they said 454 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: that Trump, there was a white supremacist in the White House, 455 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, they say this time. Meanwhile, you know, the 456 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: fastest way to get fired from basically any job you 457 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: have is to say something that maybe isn't even intentionally racist, 458 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: but someone else construes as being racially insensitive. But there's 459 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: white supremacy everywhere any job in America, you say something 460 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: that hits that third rail of race in the wrong way, 461 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: even if people you know, this has happened in sports, right, 462 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: It's happened when people have said things that actually weren't 463 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: racist at all, But you know, but triggered some sense 464 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: that there could be some racial and they lose their jobs. Yeah, 465 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: but that's the country that has the white supremacy problem. 466 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: It's everywhere, it's rising all around us. It's honestly the 467 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: only thing that you can do and not be able 468 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: to come back from. Right. So if you are a 469 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: white supremacist, you actually have less power than almost anyone 470 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: with any political belief in the country because you're done 471 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: for if you even come close to that position and 472 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: speaking can I just also add they will say that 473 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: people who aren't white are white supremacists if they're a 474 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Republican as well. Like that's the length of the left 475 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: will go to. Remember they said this about the black 476 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: white supremacist's a great guy and he was running in California. 477 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: That said he was the black face of white supremacist. 478 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Was the line that was used. I think it is 479 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: either the San Francisco Chronicle or the La Times. I mean, 480 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: they're just completely they're just it doesn't They just want 481 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: to use the slur of white supremacy. They want to 482 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: use that attack on anybody as often as they can 483 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: because they don't have good arguments. Well, we were gonna 484 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: play that I think I told you we'd play this audio. 485 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: It kind of ties in here yesterday because we talked 486 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: about it a bit. But CNN, this is Elizabeth Cohen. 487 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: Not only do they police speech in general, they police 488 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: speech that is not remotely racist and try to make 489 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: sure that it's eliminated. Monkey Pox, monkey box was considered 490 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: to be too racially inflammatory. This is the truth. So 491 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: they have changed the name of monkeypox to impox. And 492 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: here is a CNN contributor, Elizabeth Cohen, praising the WHO 493 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: for renaming it. Listen, monkeypox has a new name. It 494 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: does have a new name, so the WHO says it's empox. 495 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: And there's an interesting reason for this, kind of a 496 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: sad reason. In many ways, there is a concern that monkeypox, 497 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: that the word engendered stigma. What the New York City 498 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Department Health said was, look, we're joining others expressing serious 499 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: concern about using the word monkeypox, given the stigma may 500 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: engender and the painful and racist history within which terminology 501 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: like this is rooted for communities of color. Just another 502 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: note that monkeys have nothing to do with this virus. 503 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: It's really a misnomer. So it's now empox. Okay, what 504 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: about avian flu? What about swine flu? What about I mean, 505 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just wondering. Just you know, lime disease 506 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: named for lime Connecticut where it was first discovered. Are 507 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: the people of Connecticut deeply offended and shocked by lime disease? 508 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: The tick bore and illness? I mean, well where I 509 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: just this is the same thing when you start talking 510 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: about history and pulling down statues and stuff. Where does 511 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: this end? It doesn't? Are we gonna have to give 512 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: all the diseases numbers? You know that? That's why they 513 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: do renamed COVID. Remember, I mean, initially it would be 514 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: there couldn't be a connection to China, even though that's 515 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: where we believe it came for it from. And even 516 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: though naming viruses and illnesses off of their location has 517 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: been standard, even if it's sometimes wrong. You know, the 518 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Spanish flu didn't actually originate in Spain. And do you 519 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: remember they try to convince everybody that monkey pox I'm sorry, 520 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: MPOs was see that's gonna have a danger for everyone, 521 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: danger for everybody. Watch out, it's coming for everybody. And 522 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: then the data started to come together and it is 523 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: really a risk too, very specific subset of behaviors. As 524 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: long as you are in gay orgies, you basically had 525 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: a zero percent chance of getting monkeypox. And I think 526 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: most people, most people have managed throughout their life to 527 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: avoid gay orgies. Not everybody, but most. 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Please go back to the Clay n Buck podcast. 559 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: And also I'll be doing a Rumble show later this evening. 560 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Uh It's Rumble dot com, Slash Buck, Sex and Clay 561 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: streams on Twitter at Clay, Travis and Clay. The sports 562 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: things that are going on the World Cup. Did you 563 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the US Iran game? We didn't really get to 564 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: talk about it because you you know, it was obviously 565 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: going on when we were on the air. Yeah, I mean, look, 566 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: I think that it's good that we beat Iran, but 567 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: we kind of had to beat Iron on my mind, 568 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: so I don't really it was a must win well 569 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: and in every sense or it must win for our 570 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: the honor of our team, but also for going forward 571 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: in the World Cup process. And so now is this 572 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: this is officially the best uh world the furthest a 573 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 1: US team has ever gone in the World Cup, right, no, no, no, 574 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: we went to the well a long time ago. I 575 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: think we went kind of far, like in the fifties 576 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: or something. But we were in the round of eight 577 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: I believe I'm correct about this, like nineteen ninety eight 578 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: or two thousand and two if I'm doing my math 579 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, we beat Mexico I feel like, in 580 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: the round of sixteen and advanced to the round of eight. 581 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: At one point in our lives, the best that we've 582 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: done is the round of eight. The older people out 583 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: there who the round it says here the round of 584 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: sixteen in nineteen ninety four we got to round that 585 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: was the US That was the one we hosted. I 586 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: feel like in ninety eight or O two, the one 587 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: that took place in Korea. I think we went to 588 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the round of eight. We won a game in the 589 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: knockout stage. Oh, quarterfinals, you're right, quarterfinals, right, that's true. Okay, Wow, 590 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: so we did better than nine anticipations. Yeah, now that 591 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: one a lot of people missed because if I remember correctly, 592 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: it was in South Korea, and so the games were 593 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, they were not easily 594 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: able to be watched, and so it kind of a 595 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: little bit slid under the radar. In O two, but 596 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: we went to the round of eight. Some fun fun 597 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: fact here according and look this is according to Wikipedia. 598 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: So I got no fact check on this beyond this 599 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: that the US actually got to the semifinals of the 600 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: World Cup in nineteen thirty, which was at the first 601 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: ever World Cup. Yeah, I thought that we had had success. 602 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: I knew it was like a long long time ago. 603 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Why are we good at soccer in nineteen thirty, Clay, 604 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: and then we just you know, stunk for like fifty years. 605 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: My guess is they probably weren't playing much soccer in 606 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: Latin America in the nineteen thirties, Like how many countries 607 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: were actually competing in the World Cup in nineteen thirty, 608 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: I bet there weren't that many countries involved. Now there 609 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: are thirty two teams that make the World Cup and 610 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: it's actually kind of hard to make it. I bet 611 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty World Cup they were only like ten 612 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: or twelve teams that actually made it. And I saw 613 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I've seen two different figures for this. But Christiano Ronaldo, 614 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: who is one of the most globally famous people in 615 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: existence because of the popularity globally of soccer, I think 616 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: he I mean he has like Taylor Swift level Instagram following. 617 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's at that. I think he probably 618 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: is in the top ten of all people on planet 619 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Earth in one of those big social media platforms. He's 620 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: going to get paid to play in Saudi Arabia one 621 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: hundred twenty million dollars a year. I saw that story. 622 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: Good for him, I mean the amount of money and 623 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: this is becoming a can that be worth it? I 624 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: just like economics of that add up. I don't think 625 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: the economics of it add up. I think that there 626 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: are a lot of these Saudi Middle Eastern oil rich 627 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: countries are basically deciding, hey, how are we going to 628 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: advertise that our countries are open for business, and they're 629 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: just deciding one of the best ways is by going 630 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: to grab these global superstars and put them to work 631 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: in their countries. And I'm curious whether whether it's gonna work. 632 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: It's obviously like the Live Golf that we're seeing now, 633 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: where they went out and signed up all the top 634 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: golfers in the world or many of them. How's that going? 635 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: This is similar tour. I think the Live Tour is 636 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I mean, they're they're not going 637 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: under right. I think ultimately the PGA and the Live 638 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Tour are going to have to sue for peace with 639 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: each other and they'll end up merging back together at 640 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: some point. That's my theory down the line. But they've 641 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of super talent, and you got the 642 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: bet highest paid athlete on the planet if that goes through, 643 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: will be Christiano Ronaldo, Who'll we have more money than 644 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: any NFL player, any NBA star, any Formula one which 645 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: I only got into in the last two years because 646 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: of the Netflix show, which is getting bigger in America. 647 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: Some of the highest paid athletes in the world are 648 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: Formula One drivers, which I did not know until I 649 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: saw that series. They make forty million, fifty million tennis. 650 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: That's not including endorsements, that's just to be the guy 651 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: in the car. Yeah, tennis players obviously are racking up 652 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: money beyond belief. There is an argument, and I think 653 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: it's true that the globalization of sports, which has certainly occurred, 654 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: is going to put the top APEX athletes on a 655 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: level of earnings that it's frankly even hard to comprehend. 656 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: And I think the idea of a guy making over 657 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: one hundred million year, like Cristiano Ronaldo would be doing, 658 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: is one of those that's like kind of difficult to contemplate. 659 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: A lot of money, it's a lot of people they 660 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: can sell to. I mean, I think that's the key. 661 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: And you see the whole brand globally speaking, a lot 662 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: of money. You see Howard Stern called out Oprah for 663 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: being too flashy with her money. Do you think do 664 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: you think Howard was calling her out from his like 665 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: sixty million dollar Hampton's mansion when he's talking about the 666 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: flashiness of Oprah's money. Howard Stern didn't go out to 667 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: dinner for two years. Though he didn't go out to 668 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: dinner with anybody because he was so afraid of COVID, 669 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: one of the biggest rebels in sports. What a huge 670 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: pussy willow that guy turned into. It's unbelievable to me. 671 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: You could spend two years basically in a bunker, That's 672 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: what he did. Man. My problems. I go out to 673 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: dinner too much, club