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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Saturday. United

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Speaker 1: States attacks Iranian nuclear sites. Now Iran is responding in

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Speaker 1: real time as we.

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Speaker 2: Are talking to all of you.

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Speaker 1: There is footage playing of inside of Qatar missiles from

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Speaker 1: Iran fired at the US military base there. Iran has

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Speaker 1: announced that its official response is underway. They are reporting

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Speaker 1: that on Iranian state TV, that's their propaganda network. The

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Speaker 1: attack on the Qatari US base has begun. Also, other

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Speaker 1: Middle Eastern US forces now reportedly under attack as well,

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Speaker 1: and we are waiting to hear what the impact is

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Speaker 1: of the missiles that have been fired there. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is in real time as all of us are talking

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Speaker 1: with you. President Trump is with his top administrators right now,

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 1: And the question again is how what is the impact

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Speaker 1: and the desire here? Buck, And this is where you,

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Speaker 1: as an intelligence analyst back in the day, would be

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Speaker 1: trying to scramble and assess. You and I were at Langley,

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Speaker 1: We were on the CIA's campus just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, just in advance by like a day or

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Speaker 1: so of the Israeli attack on Iran.

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Speaker 2: And you remember I can say this now.

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Speaker 1: I think I asked a question in a meeting and

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Speaker 1: about Iran because there hadn't been that many reports about

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Speaker 1: it to that point, and it was like, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, a veil of silence just descended on the

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Speaker 1: room where they were like, uh, you didn't have to

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Speaker 1: be an expert to know something might be a footway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And after I looked at Clay, I'm like, that

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Speaker 3: was weird. We're striking or there's a strike coming, I

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Speaker 3: should say, Israel striking Iran. It was pretty obvious.

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Speaker 1: So the question here, and I'll toss this to you,

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Speaker 1: is to what extent is this? And look, first of all,

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Speaker 1: we're praying, we want all of our forces in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East to be safe. I know many of you

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Speaker 1: out there listening may well have family members, friends. We're

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Speaker 1: going to give you the information as it is reported,

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Speaker 1: accurately to the best of our ability in a real time,

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Speaker 1: dynamic situation. Big picture here, Buck. The question that is

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Speaker 1: going to be integral and will go a long way

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Speaker 1: towards determining what our response is is how we assess

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Speaker 1: what Iran is doing?

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Speaker 2: Is this a face saving?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Us?

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Speaker 1: You can't you know, rip our nuclear program to shreds

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Speaker 1: without us doing something back. But it's a pulled punch,

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Speaker 1: meaning we knew it was coming. It's not designed to

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Speaker 1: deliver massive consequences relatively speaking. Or do we judge this

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Speaker 1: to have been an acceleration beyond expected Iranian response? Much

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Speaker 1: of this now is a dance of diplomacy through missile,

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Speaker 1: which sounds complicated but actually is important here as we

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Speaker 1: try and determine the significance and severity of the Iranian response,

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Speaker 1: Is it face saving or is accelerating would be a

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Speaker 1: way I think to sum up what we have to

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Speaker 1: analyze at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the best the Iranians militarily can

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Speaker 3: muster against the regional enemies that they want to attack

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Speaker 3: and US, and these relations are the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: It's not that Iran. If Iran could level Tel Aviv tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: it would do so. The reason that Iran hasn't done

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Speaker 3: that is they can't do that. And that's also true

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Speaker 3: of their abilities here when it comes to hitting military

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Speaker 3: forces in the region. They also I think stay you know,

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Speaker 3: at some level, have to understand that if they were

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Speaker 3: to go after soft targets, non military targets, they would

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Speaker 3: invite much more extreme retaliation. Look, this is a country

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Speaker 3: that was, as I said, unable to protect its senior

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Speaker 3: up in just their apartment buildings in like the corner

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Speaker 3: of the building where they happen to live. Unable to

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Speaker 3: conflict that they'd supposedly been preparing for for or early

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Speaker 3: since the seventy nine revolution. In some way, yes, they're

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Speaker 3: not militarily sophisticated as a country. That doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 3: not dangerous. It just means they do not have a

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Speaker 3: sophisticated first world military that can do. You know, Russia,

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Speaker 3: as we've seen, very different situation. We're talking about Russia

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Speaker 3: fighting against Ukraine. There you have you know, advanced lanes,

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Speaker 3: advanced drones, advanced communications, a lot of firepower. You know

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Speaker 3: that they've they've got they've got stuff that can cause

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Speaker 3: a headache for anybody. The Russians do the Iranians, it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a different situation. So I think

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Speaker 3: what we'll see is probably these Iranians, uh, these Iranian missiles. Look,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to prejudge it. Let's see

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Speaker 3: I think Trump will repeat his calls for negotiations for

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Speaker 3: some kind of I guess this these fire You know.

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Speaker 3: The part of this that is really wide open to me,

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Speaker 3: and I haven't seen much clarity on this is we're

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Speaker 3: not going to push for regime change, but we all

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say we all. The Trump administration wants a

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Speaker 3: different regime but doesn't want to push and kind of

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Speaker 3: topple the existing one more than what we've through, more

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Speaker 3: than what we've already done. Yeah, it feels like we're

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Speaker 3: going to head into this uneasy the status quo of

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Speaker 3: a somewhat defanged Iran that we're hoping wants to come

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Speaker 3: to the table and stop being crazy. But really, Clay,

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Speaker 3: the fundamental problem with all of this is that the

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Speaker 3: people that run around are bad people. Yes, and I

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Speaker 3: mean crazy isn't really the right word, but there is

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Speaker 3: an ideological viciousness that is at the heart of the

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Speaker 3: theocracy that is Iran. And so I also look at

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Speaker 3: what happened in Syria. Yeah, finally the Assad regime came down.

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Speaker 3: It took thirteen years, and at one point early on

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Speaker 3: like twenty thirteen twenty twelve timeframe, there were suicide bombers,

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Speaker 3: Jihadi suicide bombers that were infiltrating like the equivalent of

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Speaker 3: Assad's Pentagon. I mean, they were right there knocking at

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Speaker 3: the door. And the civil war was brutal, and the

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Speaker 3: Assad regime held on for a decade plus. Do you

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Speaker 3: have updates on this?

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Speaker 1: I think I've got some information. This is the spokesperson

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Speaker 1: for Katar and this is a translation from Arabic. So

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Speaker 1: all of this is on Twitter, all right, So obviously

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Speaker 1: I do not speak Arabic. I'm not translating this in

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Speaker 1: real time. This is according to uh yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: according to the Google translations. This is Abu Abu Clay.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yes, this is my ATTIMPT. Here's what this

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Speaker 1: is what I want to get out because I know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there. We express the

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Speaker 1: State of Qatar strong condemnation of the attack on Al

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Speaker 1: Yadid Air Base by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, consider

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Speaker 1: it a flagrant violation of the State of Qatar's sovereignty,

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Speaker 1: sovereignty and airspace sovereignty, as well as of international law

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Speaker 1: and the United Nations Charter. We affirm the State of

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Speaker 1: Qatar reserves the right to respond directly in a manner

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Speaker 1: proportional to the nature and scale of this blatant aggression

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Speaker 1: and in accordance with international law. Okay, we are reassured

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Speaker 1: that Katari air defenses thwarted the attack and successfully intercepted

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Speaker 1: the Iranian missiles. The Ministry of Defense will issue a

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Speaker 1: statement clarifying the circumstances of the attack later. We also

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Speaker 1: affirm the continuation of such escalating military actions undermined security

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Speaker 1: and stability in the region, and so the base has

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Speaker 1: been evacuated earlier in accordance with approved security and precautionary measures.

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Speaker 2: In light of the tensions.

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Speaker 1: All necessary measures were taken to ensure the safety of

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Speaker 1: the base's personnel.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so so far, so good. We shot down their

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Speaker 3: stuff and we're looking Okay.

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Speaker 1: No injuries or human losses occurred as a result of

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Speaker 1: the attack, according to this report which has just come

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Speaker 1: down that has not been publicly reported by anybody else.

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Speaker 1: But again, that is the Qatari spokesperson.

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Speaker 3: So this is looking so far like it's very similar

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Speaker 3: to the custom Solomoni retaliation, which was pretty much deminimus

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Speaker 3: from a military military damage perspective, and it was the

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Speaker 3: Iranian regime doing really what's within their power militarily, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is something that I think a lot

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Speaker 3: remember this when you talk about something like Hamas. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Hamas doesn't distinguish. In fact, Hamas prefers civilian targets. Not

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Speaker 3: only they're not distinguished military, civilian they prefer civily. They're

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Speaker 3: not going to go after the IDF, They're gonna get

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Speaker 3: their asses kicked. Hamas likes to go after you know,

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Speaker 3: elderly people, people in wheelchairs, children like. That's amass preferred

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Speaker 3: target set, which is heinous. And in the case of Iran,

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Speaker 3: so far they are sticking to military to military response,

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Speaker 3: which is a different thing under the laws of war

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Speaker 3: and Geneva Conventions, et cetera. You know, this is something

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Speaker 3: that you could say the Iranians are paying attention to.

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Speaker 3: Will they go and cross that line and go Hamas

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Speaker 3: and start having proxies on their behalf do this? You'd

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Speaker 3: have to wonder who are these proxies and what do

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Speaker 3: they think they're going to get out of this. I

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Speaker 3: think the message, you know, Clay, we can get into

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Speaker 3: some more JD. Vans for examples on the Sunday shows.

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Speaker 3: With this administration, it is so different, and I truly

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Speaker 3: you know, this is not like oh Talk radio our side,

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Speaker 3: say something, When Trump and Vance and Hegseth say something

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Speaker 3: to drop the fires of hell on your head, they

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Speaker 3: mean it, yes, and the bad guys know they mean it,

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Speaker 3: and they know it will happen, and that has meaning.

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Speaker 3: That has meaning for moments like this, whereas with Biden.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean we know invasion of Ukraine happens.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they'll get the stuff like no no one

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Speaker 3: takes the guy seriously. So let well, Clay, I'll get

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Speaker 3: into some of this because I think JD. Advance made

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Speaker 3: I should say, And there are ways that they can

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Speaker 3: go outside of that. If they go outside of that,

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Speaker 3: I think this administration is going to punish them severely.

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Speaker 3: And that's the way that it should be.

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Speaker 2: And now you you also understand better than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: You have to know what somebody means in negotiation. You

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Speaker 2: can't like Biden was so weak.

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Speaker 1: They felt like they could play him, and they knew

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Speaker 1: that there was no spine behind anything he said. And

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Speaker 1: these these dictators, these malas, and respond to violence.

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Speaker 4: This is the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not It's not like that was their perception and

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Speaker 3: Biden was actually a sleeping giant or something, And no,

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Speaker 3: it was they were right by thinking he was an

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Speaker 1: And again I think that sometimes you don't like it,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is where democrats, frankly, lack of

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Speaker 1: masculinity becomes an issue. Most people who are in positions

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Speaker 1: of power around the world are dudes who are mal actors. Right,

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Speaker 1: are men, and they respond to violence. That's what they

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Speaker 1: respond to. It would be great if they would respond

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Speaker 1: to argument, but ultimately, all they care about is do

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Speaker 1: you have the ability to do them harm. It's like

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Speaker 1: bullies everywhere, right, Like on some level, you don't usually

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Speaker 1: to make the bully fear that you can kick his ass.

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Speaker 1: And that is what Trump is willing to do because

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Speaker 1: I think he understands that. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: the soft, weak masculinity, frankly of the Democrat Party might

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Speaker 1: work when it comes to persuading Lesbians of the truth

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Speaker 1: of their arguments in the United States, it doesn't work

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: So far, it looks like the Iranian missile launch against

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Speaker 6: Jim point, there's no way Biden could pool this off

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, Kamala Harris couldn't order take out and make

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Speaker 1: And by the way, more and more reports coming out

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Speaker 3: Rational action from the Tehran regime. So we'll talk more

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show Again Iran

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Speaker 1: has responded so far. It appears that they telegraphed their actions.

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Speaker 1: They are seeking to dial back after we kicked their

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Speaker 7: This is what it sounded like it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 7: Why would you bury six Why do they have sixty

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Speaker 7: percent enrich uranium? You don't need sixty percent in rich area.

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Speaker 7: The only countries in the world that have uranium at

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Speaker 7: they have. Why they why do they have a space program?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: But that's that's a question.

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Speaker 8: That's a question of intent. And you know in the

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Speaker 7: Know something more from its inaccurate representation of it. That's

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Speaker 7: an accurate representation of it. That's not how intelligence has read.

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Speaker 7: are enriching uranium. Well, beyond anything you need for a

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's point one you want to play.

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Speaker 1: Let's play point two here, because I do think it

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Speaker 1: mentioned many people out there said, oh, my goodness, if

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Speaker 1: It's early, but we have viscerated it appears the Iranian

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Speaker 1: and played dead. To your point, Buck, they are effectively,

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Speaker 1: after forty six years of Ayatola rule, a third third

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Iran is an ancient and proud civilization that for

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Speaker 3: That's what's happened, you know. It's a bit like you

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is unfortunately what it can happen in

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Speaker 3: cut two. You want to play this one, right, he

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Speaker 7: Why would you enrich Urania at sixty percent if you

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Speaker 3: And build a weapon?

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Speaker 7: Why are you developing ICBMs? Why do you have eight

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Speaker 3: That is stored. That's all we need to see.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: Well, the hands of the regime that's already involved in

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Speaker 8: I was simply asking if we had intelligence that there

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Speaker 7: Have intelligence that they have everything they need to build

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's a question for you, Buck.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're asking, you're asking the basic and obvious

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Speaker 3: that you can't address, can't deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Why, that's my question, Like, what would be the reason

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Speaker 1: they would be burying uranium enrichment minds basically, for lack

439
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Speaker 1: of a better way of characterizing it, beneath mountains while

440
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Speaker 1: being on top of oil fields. If they weren't trying

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Speaker 1: to create nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 3: It's even worse than that, Like if they were willing

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Speaker 3: to play ball with the international community. Remember the their

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Speaker 3: signatory is to the Non Nuclear Perliferation Treaty, which they

445
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Speaker 3: just violate this but put that aside. You know, treaties, right,

446
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Speaker 3: You know, this is like Pompey Magnus of ancient Rome.

447
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Speaker 3: Don't quote laws to men with swords like okay, fine,

448
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Speaker 3: We're in a power dynamics based world, not a treaty

449
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Speaker 3: and obligations based world. Okay. If they were willing to

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Speaker 3: work with the international community such as it is, if

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Speaker 3: they were willing to play ball with America, Europe, et cetera,

452
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Speaker 3: and stop doing the things that they're doing that are

453
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Speaker 3: destabilizing and that make the region so miserable quite honestly,

454
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Speaker 3: and so much violence. I mean, the French would build

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Speaker 3: their reactors for them, and people would help them if

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Speaker 3: the regime was willing to have real inspections, play ball

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Speaker 3: and do what has been asked here for a long time,

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Speaker 3: civilian nuclear power, that there are ways that that could

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Speaker 3: be achieved and done. Of course, you asked the question,

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Speaker 3: which is maybe even more important, well, why would they

461
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Speaker 3: even want that considering how much oil they have, which

462
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Speaker 3: is just easier for them and the answer is that

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Speaker 3: they want to have a nuclear weapons capability. Do you

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Speaker 3: see this If you are a regime of bad actors

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Speaker 3: for the last fifty years or so, if you have nukes,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to worry really about external overthrow. That's

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Speaker 3: the lesson that a lot of people take from this,

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Speaker 3: and which is why North Korea gets to North Korea

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Speaker 3: do it right. North Korea is a perfect example. You

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Speaker 3: can be a religious zelot run theocracy that has held

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Speaker 3: been but well, it's basically what North Korea is. They

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Speaker 3: just worshiped the Kim dynasty instead of you know, Islam,

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Speaker 3: but it actually it really is kind of a theocracy,

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Speaker 3: and in a sense it's a netcrocracy because the founder,

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Speaker 3: Kim Il sung, is still kind of worshiped as the

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Speaker 3: head of the Communist Party.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, again from a international affairs response,

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Speaker 1: I have actually seen some of the members of the

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Speaker 1: Clinton administration saying publicly, now we blew it with North Korea.

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Speaker 1: In retrospect, we should have have had attacks on their

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Speaker 1: nuclear capabilities. Bill Clinton considered it in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: I even saw Rama Manuel Will come out and say it,

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Speaker 1: and I think most people out there would say Hey,

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Speaker 1: would be better if this crazy Korean dictatorship didn't have

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. But because they have them, they basically have

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Speaker 1: power and perpetuity because the risk of attacking them is

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Speaker 1: nuclear war. And that is the lesson that I think

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Speaker 1: Iran has taken now by attacking this regime, we are

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Speaker 1: trying to prevent another North Korea, but we're also sending

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Speaker 1: the message to other countries that may make the rational choice, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to have nuclear weapons, to their consequences for

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Speaker 1: pursuing these and also buck This is why I think

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Speaker 1: the response from China and from Russia has been muted,

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Speaker 1: because deep down they don't want Iran to have nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapons either.

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, they can't trust Iran. These countries do

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Speaker 3: not align countries or whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 3: that will work together. These are places you know, Putin's

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Speaker 3: right hand man. Can't trust Vladimir Putin. You think the Iranians,

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Speaker 3: I mean, these people will only. These are countries that

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Speaker 3: only will work together insofar as it is cast zero

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Speaker 3: cost to them and in their immediate interests, no interest,

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Speaker 3: as long as the oil flows. These countries don't give

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Speaker 3: a They don't care who's in charge in Iran. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Chinese get a lot of oil from Iran because

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Speaker 3: of the sanctions, and and you know they want that

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Speaker 3: oil to keep flowing. And you know that the Russians.

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Speaker 3: I know this seems strange people, but the Russians actually

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Speaker 3: buy a lot of Iranian oil too, even though the

510
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Speaker 3: Russians have a lot of oil on their own right,

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Speaker 3: because it has to do with refining and the global markets.

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Speaker 3: But clay there, there's no The World War III thing

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Speaker 3: never made any sense because there's no countries that are

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Speaker 3: going to come to the aid of Iran that want

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Speaker 3: to lose their own soldiers in some conflict, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: with Israel and or with the United States. So that's

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Speaker 3: not going to happen. The thing for me, that's the

518
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Speaker 3: biggest open question right now is what do we want

519
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Speaker 3: if we're going to take this forward beyond where we are.

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Speaker 3: It is possible, folks, we wake up tomorrow and Iran

521
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: has managed to do so on thing horrible and kill

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Speaker 3: a lot of people somewhere, and that will change the

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Speaker 3: that will change the dynamics in this conflict overnight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that is possible. So far, we haven't seen that in

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Speaker 3: what we've seen from Iran has been pretty contained and

526
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: pretty predictable, right, so what do we want? Meaning what

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Speaker 3: do we truly the American people want? Now? The first

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Speaker 3: thing is we want this to not be our problem

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Speaker 3: and for us not to be involved. I get that.

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Speaker 3: That's like first principle, that's numeral uno here is Okay,

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Speaker 3: we don't want to make this our problem. But in

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Speaker 3: terms of if we can foresee a future where we

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Speaker 3: don't have to, wouldn't it be nice? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: often do we sit around talking about, you know, the

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Speaker 3: future of Kazakhstan, which, by the way, has a lot

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Speaker 3: of natural resources. People think of Borot. It's actually a

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Speaker 3: very large country, a lot of natural resources. I think

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Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of Not the potassium is what Borat

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Speaker 3: always says. I think it has a lot of natural gas.

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Speaker 3: Someone check me on that. But my point is we

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Speaker 3: don't care about that. You know, Kazakhstan does its thing. Yeah,

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00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: they don't have free speech, and but whatever, it's not

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Speaker 3: our problem. We don't have to worry about this. We

544
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Speaker 3: really want Iran to be in that category. It's just

545
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Speaker 3: not our problem. And so if not our problem is

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Speaker 3: what we want from Iran, what does that look like,

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Speaker 3: how do we get there? And is that the Iranian

548
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Speaker 3: regime just kind of sputtering along as it is defanged,

549
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Speaker 3: as I've said, or do we really want to see

550
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Speaker 3: what happens if people start dragging the you know, the

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Speaker 3: IRGC and the besiege which is their really their brown

552
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: shirts and I mean they're street militia if you will,

553
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: of the regime. If we start if they start getting

554
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Speaker 3: dragged out in the streets and beaten by you know,

555
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Speaker 3: the civilians with pitchforks and torches, so to speak, is

556
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Speaker 3: that what we want? You know, I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is where we get into the I don't know again,

558
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Speaker 3: not us doing it. I'm just saying, what do we

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Speaker 3: really want in Iran?

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Speaker 1: I think that's the question at this point going forward,

561
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Speaker 1: and we could spend some time on it in this

562
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Speaker 1: third hour because to me, the question that and by

563
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Speaker 1: the way, Elon Musk.

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Speaker 2: Turn on startling.

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Speaker 1: Let the Iranians actually see what's going on in the

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Speaker 1: rest of the world, because buck what they're going to

567
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: say internally is we responded in cut and force and

568
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: wiped out the United States forces in the Middle East. Right,

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: this is what Iranian state television is gonna say, but

570
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Speaker 1: bigger picture what a lot of these young people in

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Speaker 1: Iran are saying. When I say young, I mean people

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: thirty five and younger. Either you're a you know, having kids,

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Speaker 1: or you.

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Speaker 3: Are That's where we are now in Lifeclay, We're like,

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Speaker 3: we're all these whipper snappers in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all these young guys. But they are looking around now.

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Speaker 1: At some point, embarrassment and anger starts to set in

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00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: in Iran because you see people in Saudi Arabia having

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Speaker 1: a better life than you. Bahrain Qatars having the freakin

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Speaker 1: World Cup. Saudi Arabia is gonna have the World Cup.

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00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: They love soccer. Why is Iran getting left behind? It's

582
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: one thing if the US and Israel are better off, okay,

583
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: but when your fellow Arab and Muslim countries are leaving

584
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: you behind and you to your point Buck used to

585
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: be a proud member of the Persian Empire. Go study

586
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: world history. They ancient history. They were ahead of the curve,

587
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: they were long ahead of much of even Europe back

588
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: in the day, and now they're falling behind. Quality of life.

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Speaker 1: They can't even keep the power on so they can

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Speaker 1: take elevators in buildings. These are real questions that I

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Speaker 1: think are going to start getting asked by the Iranian people.

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Speaker 2: And where does it lead? That's the question.

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Speaker 3: Another scene of anarchy and despair. If this guy, mom Donnie,

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Speaker 3: coming up in just a second. It is madness that

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Speaker 3: Michael and Palm Beach wants to weigh in. What's going on, Michael.

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Speaker 4: Tombay, Lord, but Palm Beach is close enough.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 6: Here's my fear on this.

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Speaker 4: This has been done seven times, now, nine times, eleven times.

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Speaker 4: Who knows how many times we bombed them into oblivion

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Speaker 4: and they went, Okay, we quit. My fear is we

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Speaker 4: have to bomb them until they literally beg us to quit.

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Speaker 3: Bomb hmm.

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Speaker 4: Not how many bombs that's gonna take.

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Speaker 3: But I think we're only bombing precise facilities right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't like Dresden in World War Two.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's really gonna We.

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Speaker 2: Haven't roach Nagasaki, did anybody here buck?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Look, we should mention.

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Speaker 1: Iran has also said they fired back the same number

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Speaker 1: of missiles at us that we fired at them on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: This is their attempt to keep us from continuing to

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Speaker 1: rain down on them.

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Speaker 3: I know I've been saying that you can pick your

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Speaker 3: historical analogy to support whatever point of view you want.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, It is possible for a country

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Speaker 3: that has gone down a path of extreme darkness, malevolency,

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Speaker 3: and militancy to turn around. I mean, you mentioned Hiroshima,

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Speaker 3: Nagasaki is a pretty extreme situation. But you know, Japan,

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Speaker 3: Japan's a good friend of the United States. Now, the Japanese,

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Speaker 3: what they did in World War Two was on the

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Speaker 3: same scale and level of horribleness as what the Germans did.

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Speaker 3: They just did it in a different place. So and

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Speaker 3: anyone who knows the history knows that. So it's possible

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Speaker 3: for countries to turn around. Now, it's way early in

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Speaker 3: the game to be saying, well, Iran is you know,

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Speaker 3: Iran is also going to be like a representative democracy

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Speaker 3: with a lot of people who love you know, pop

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Speaker 3: music and Hello Kitty or whatever. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to turn it into Japan tomorrow. But

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Speaker 3: but it is possible for a country to get better

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Speaker 3: and for things to improve. It does not have to

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Speaker 3: be this way. That's my only thing, Clay, Iran does

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Speaker 3: not have to be this way. We should remind ourselves

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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 1: And maybe some of the Iranian people are starting to

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Speaker 1: realize that as they get left behind by other Arabs

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Speaker 1: and Muslims in their region that maybe it's not Israel

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Speaker 1: in the United States doing that, Maybe it's your awful

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Speaker 1: government and you're awful leaders.