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Speaker 1: while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell your secrets. We

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Speaker 1: Stephen Philliam's horse. Got the fuck up, you fucking bitch.

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Speaker 1: How's your mother? I fucked her in a bath at

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Speaker 1: Duncan Donuts last night. So sorry you were in a

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Speaker 1: No I did. I did take out from Dunkies. I

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Speaker 1: that's fun. I actually fucked your mother sideways over a

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Speaker 1: pile of discarded Kelly's roast beef and not the sandwich.

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Speaker 1: that sounds like a classier bed than the one I

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Speaker 1: saw your house last week. Hey yo, oh oh you're

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Speaker 1: talking about my mother's aging tempa pedic. Yeah, you little bitch,

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Speaker 1: come homeless? Leave my tempa pedick Listen. I still appreciated

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Speaker 1: to read. It's called Oh you're reading, No, I'm faking

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Speaker 1: Continuing Education classes online on my Asis computer. My asss. Wow,

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Speaker 1: a lot like how to suck cock? Oh yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do you do? Go to kindergarten learning how to ship

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Speaker 1: for the first time. Look, let's get into it. This

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Speaker 1: book I read on the cape is called Walden Pond

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Speaker 1: by this guy, Henry David Throw, or as you call him, foow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where you Lily Marada like Gardner. It's

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Speaker 1: your pronunciation of thorow. But you've said throw every time,

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Speaker 1: a little strong, and they're just kind of like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: what did you say? Brow. It's like in my cousin

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Speaker 1: Vinny when the judge to Joe Pashi is like, what

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Speaker 1: then finally he goes, oh, I'm sorry, youths. So it's okay,

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Speaker 1: get words out. So I say, Henry David throw, just

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Speaker 1: throwing out the words, throwing out the words, and I

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Speaker 1: get that it's pronounced thorough. Yeah, it's yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: You'll notice my book is full of pink highlighted passages.

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Speaker 1: to the detriment of my domestic arrangements. But it's like

423
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: and this isn't the part about his budget, but he's

424
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, so yes, I went to restaurants, like

425
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm not insane crazy. Also, in the whole beginning the book,

426
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: like there's a ton of him really romanticizing the Indians

427
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: and like pre Columbium tribes for their relationship to nature,

428
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: but also that like how you know, how well they're

429
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: able to like construct their dwellings and like the wayams. Yeah,

430
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: he's definitely a little bit jealous of that, but he's

431
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: also at one point he's just like, but girl, I'm

432
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: not trying to live in a wigwam, yeah, like forever,

433
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: And like, you know, I appreciate that honesty because it's

434
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: like many people would be like color is bad and

435
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: like you know, and like, you know, we should have

436
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: never like you know, English would never come here and

437
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: settle it in colonies or whatever, and it's like and

438
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: we should celebrate like wigwams. But he's been like and yes,

439
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: I absolutely deeply respected Wigwam, but also like I am

440
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: used to like creature comforts of like a house and

441
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: except for and I'm not trying to live at aig yeah,

442
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not trying to live in a wigwam.

443
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: I want a small house. But then he then is

444
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: being like Philson Carhart, like bearded guy, when he was like,

445
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: how sad for you if a man needs to get

446
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: furniture from a furniture warehouse, do you have a pitch?

447
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: Because no, no no, no, Well this is the part we

448
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: says Asian shit is faggy. Oh yeah. But he was

449
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: like and he's like, I'm not going to get some

450
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: origeous oriental. This part is insane. He literally says having

451
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: Asian decore makes you a fagot. There's a lot of

452
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: masculinity stuff in this book. Okay, I think that in

453
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: the railroad car, we are inclined to spend more on

454
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: he's talking about also how like railroad cards like to fancy. Yeah,

455
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: he's really anti railroad and it's like, okay, get friends. Well.

456
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: I also think the irony is that nowadays and environmentals

457
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: would be very pro and anti cars, but railrods to

458
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: the car to thirday. I think that a railroad car,

459
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: we are inclined to spend more on luxury than on

460
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: safety and convenience, and it threatens without attaining these to

461
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: become no better than a modern drawing room with its

462
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: divans and ottomans and sunshades and one hundred other oriental

463
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: things which we are taking west with us, invented for

464
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: the ladies of the Harem and the effeminate natives of

465
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: the celestial Empire, which Jonathan should be ashamed to know

466
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: the names of. So Jonathan, my book points out, was

467
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: meant like the typical Americans. He's being so Joe sixpack

468
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: because he's always saying Jonathan, Joe six back. And he's like,

469
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: and also, I know that celestial means Asian, which I

470
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: know because what because my um, your game, my sort

471
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: of old money boyfriend ex boyfriend, his grandmother would referred

472
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Asians celestials. So I only that's how I knew he

473
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: meant that. And they were like so Pilgrim, and maybe

474
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: they were so Mayflower. So he's being like literally effeminate

475
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 1: natives of celestial empires. Only they can know what ottomans are.

476
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: If you're Joe sixpacting, you know what an ottoman is.

477
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: You are gay, You are literally a faggot. And then

478
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: he's like, so it's like that, and he's like, but

479
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: even if you're ordering also like from an IKEA catalog,

480
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: like you are not a real but better god. I

481
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: like if you heard him man say the word ottoman today, like,

482
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: would you maybe not raise a nyebrow? No, to be like,

483
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: oh you know what I need? An ottoman is kind

484
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: of gay. Yeah, that's like fully gay to be like,

485
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: oh nice ottoman, man, Dude, that's a sick ottoman. Can

486
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: I rest to my feet on it? Dude? I love

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Speaker 1: book Club, ditch the talk. I think he is solo Polly. Okay,

519
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: he talks about having guests over. Okay, yes, I'm just

520
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: like there's always guess, there's always these like drifters and

521
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: borders and local farmers and like local railroad workers. It's

522
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of men men, okay, a lot of shanty

523
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: Irish men that he thinks, you know, okay, like the

524
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 1: trade and or like older guys. It's like he'll be like,

525
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: oh and he was fishing for eel and walden pond

526
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: and yes. Then I he came over and we split

527
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: some of my unleavened bread, just a little bit of it.

528
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: And then he literally says the phrase this is the

529
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: poly part for me. I've had thirty souls in my

530
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: house once, ok so um today today thirty. And then

531
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: this was also so Polly and like fucked up pot

532
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: luck where he's like, if I have one person over,

533
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: I'll make a meal, like I'll make my random bread

534
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: and we'll share it. But I have thirty people over,

535
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm like not gonna make them a meal. And he's

536
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: like assuming that they're gonna pot luck. I mean, first

537
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: of all, he's you can't make like beans for thirty people.

538
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Like talk to some polly people. I think you get

539
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: but then you're just doing this huge pot of beans.

540
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's the most like the house,

541
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: but like what was this standing party he referred to

542
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: because he at one point where he's like, I have

543
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: three chairs. Yeah, he's like one to like sit, one

544
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: for solitude, two for like find like company, three for society.

545
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the three chairs? Were so crazy? That's

546
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: what's also kind of like there's something a little bit

547
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: i almost like closeted about him where I'm like, would

548
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: you have gone into the Peace Corps if if it

549
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: was He's doing everything not to get fucked up the bunch,

550
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: Like that's like at a certain point I was just like,

551
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: are you ever horny? But it'll also be the thing

552
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: where when you write a book you never mentioned a

553
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: horny you are right, because he's like that's for like

554
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: lady folk of the town bustle to write about. Those

555
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: are just like celestial man with theirs. I just feel

556
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: he was also just like staring at a woodchuck drinking off. Well. Yeah,

557
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: because when he says like so in the mornings, I

558
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: would just like bathe faith sunbathe nude, wonderful sunbathe. Yes,

559
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: he's like my man must bathe and could have like

560
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: lounge in my society share for like two hours and

561
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: like do nothing and like the sun streaming in and

562
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the sounds of the bird. That was the

563
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: other thing that I was like, this is him being

564
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: so over to being gay is like things he thinks

565
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: like interfere you need to look within, and they like

566
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: interfere with like true happiness and like true purity music, wine, coffee, tea,

567
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: shopping gossip. Yeah, it's big six, I guess. And it's

568
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: like when he was like, why do you need to

569
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: listen to music when you can hear a loon? Well, okay,

570
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I do want to hear the loon. Like this

571
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: comes back to my vacation in Panama when that German

572
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: couple was like playing Mstein and I was like, can

573
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: we please here like the parrots and not your bluetooth

574
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Romstein like and right. And I guess I stood up

575
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: for that German couple having sister Romstein because I just

576
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: think that's so if you're that German and need to

577
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: listen to Romstein to fuck, you should no. I mean obviously,

578
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: like who are you In the book, I'm Throw, and

579
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: you're like this town gossip was just like blasting fiddles, yeah,

580
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: and like and like I'm fucking the wet irishman and

581
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: like Throw comes to town for his beans and it's like,

582
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: oh me, no, I'm not staying for dinner or I'm

583
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: going back to my cabin to send in my thinking chair.

584
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: But I do think it just didn't make me wonder.

585
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I was like, did you do the part where he

586
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: does that whole kind of weird like play with the hermit. Yes,

587
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: there's this like little dialogue that's back and forth of

588
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: him in a hermit. The hermit gets so much more

589
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: like sexual agency and like eroticism than in any other Like, yes,

590
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: certainly any woman in the book. He could be gay

591
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: and so closeted. Or I think he could be also

592
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: classic nerdy Massachusetts man who's just so afraid of rejection

593
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: from a woman. Yes, and to open himself up that

594
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: he's just doing kind of everything in his power. Oh,

595
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm too distracted by loons. Oh I'm too distracted by hoeing. Yeah,

596
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and my beans, my beans. And because it's like very vegan,

597
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: straight guy to be like, oh, I'd rather like buffalo

598
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: potatoes and like have a good meat, why do you

599
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: need anything more? Also, this is in between. This is

600
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: like a weird play where it's like a poet and

601
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: a hermit, but like obviously he's the poet. Poet. See

602
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: those clouds, how they hang palace anyone, that's the greatest

603
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: thing I've seen today. There's nothing like in an old painting.

604
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: It's nothing in the foreign lands, unless when we were

605
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: off the coast of Spain, I thought, as I am

606
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: I living to get I have not eaten today, that

607
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: I might go a fishing. That's the true industry for poets.

608
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: It's the only tree I've learned. Come, let's along. And

609
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: then the hermit goes, I cannot resist. My brown bread

610
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: will soon be gone. I will go with you gladly soon,

611
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, okay, so they're going fishing together,

612
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: which also is this kind of reverse thing of like

613
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: fishing really is a sport that brings men together. You know,

614
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: it's not just because hunting, I feel like, is a

615
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: little more centered of like you know, rudnext stuff and

616
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll but it's also white posh in England, like the

617
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: hunting culture. It's like the dogs and the pigeons and

618
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: the plates and whatever. But in America, I feel like,

619
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: but with fishing, I feel like it's like you can

620
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: be a little more like I'm a poet fishing, or

621
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm like also so like Loup Ryan, I'm on my

622
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: huge boat. And I mean fishing allows for fishing is

623
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: all about the words unset. I mean, it's broke Back Mountain,

624
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Where it's hunting, there's a

625
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: little bit too much to do. Yes. Fishing is just

626
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: you sit there and you have to think yes and

627
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: listen and get up early. And that is I think,

628
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: in many ways, so much more erotic than hunting, because

629
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: it's like hunting is too it's too like superfishly, vulgar, obvious.

630
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: You have to obviously the hunt the gun, right, I'm

631
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: killing my prey. I'm dominating, right, Whereas fishing you have

632
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: to like sit there interrogating your own desires and letting

633
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: them surface and dissipate. And it's terrifying. Well, and people

634
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: always describe the feeling of fishing as heartbreak chills. Absolutely

635
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: never about conquest. It's always like setting yourself up for

636
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: a broken heart. Okay, this part I really agreed with

637
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: about the post office. Wait, yes, yes, he was like

638
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: why the post office? And he was like, think about it.

639
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I've only gotten two letters in my life worth they're posted.

640
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, literally, amen, I wrote down girl,

641
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: if you only knew, because now the well, because it's

642
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: like remember there was that hole like with the post

643
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: became because like Trump was get rid of we were

644
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: all like and everyone was like buy merch off post

645
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: office first by post office bucket hats and girls were

646
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: in like post office long sleeps. It was the box selfies.

647
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: And then it's like everyone forgot about that and now

648
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: it's like, oh right, all the post office does is

649
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: give you like credit card offers and trash. It's just

650
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: pure trash. His mail was always just being like you're

651
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: shipping off to go fight in a war, or like

652
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: your fiance is dead. Like it was always just like

653
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: pretty serious. Yeah, um yeah I do. I did detect

654
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: a tinge of jealousy. Yeah, where it's like no one, Um,

655
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: did you clock that he's pro open floor plan because

656
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: he's talking about like how it's like, I mean, I

657
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: guess I assume you his cabin is one room. It's

658
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: it's definitely um, but he's talking about how just like

659
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: it's just so every couple in house hunters where they're

660
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: just like, I want to be able to see my guests,

661
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: like Walam chopping. Nowadays, the host does not admit you

662
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: to his hearth, but has gotten the mason to build

663
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: one for yourself somewhere in his alley. And hospitality is

664
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: the art of keeping you at the greatest distance. There's

665
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: as much secrecy about the cooking as if he had

666
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: a design to poison you. And it's just like, oh, yeah,

667
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: the host is always like toiling over his cauldron and

668
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: you're just like in the drawing room, and it's like

669
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: he's like, what about an open floor talk? Yeah, well,

670
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: which is funny because I feel like the way he

671
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: talks about car resation, his definition of gossip is quite wide.

672
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: He refers to the Boston newspapers gossip. Yeah, he refers

673
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: to just like any conversation that happens and conquered his gossip.

674
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: And then he's like, yeah, and like sometimes when like

675
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: people would come over and they would talk to me

676
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: about like other places that they had been or people

677
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: that they had met who had been to like Ohio

678
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: or London and all they wanted to talk about was

679
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: clothes and manners, and I'm just kind of like that's

680
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: fun and like that's literally funny and like also bitch,

681
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: like you're also talking about clothes. You have an entire

682
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: chapter about clothes, So it's like and like how you

683
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: think that this is the best clothing because you love

684
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: your like worn ass peak coat. So it's just like, what,

685
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: like what am I supposed to talk about with you?

686
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, I'm here for you, like, yes, we

687
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: should stop door dashing. But I'm just like people are

688
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: coming over like yes, they want to talk about like

689
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: how they went to London, and you're being like, oh,

690
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: this is just poppycock and gossip, and it's like why

691
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: don't we discuss truth truth? And it's like is your

692
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: truth that like you're gay? You're gay? It's like that's

693
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: why he's so afraid of any sort of conversation because

694
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: then the actual truth will have to come out. Yes,

695
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: And it's like those people they've seen Walton pond, Like

696
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: you can't have an entire dinner talking about a pond.

697
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's out. I mean I will say I

698
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: guess that's where this book you know, really does prove

699
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: it's metal because it's like there is all the like

700
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: polemic sections, but like the vast majority of this book

701
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: is straight up, straight up pond pond gossip. Yeah, pond gossip.

702
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: It's like no, I mean the whole section about the

703
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: ants at war, which I loved, was gossip about yants

704
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: fighting that he saw. It was very cool. It's like

705
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: he's watching these ants at war. But it's like, oh,

706
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: that's not gossip because it's like your little boy brain

707
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: talking about like ants fighting. Yeah, he needs to go

708
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: to therapy um with your mom, with my mom, and okay,

709
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about fashion. Arrested the civil disobedience. He was

710
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: arrested at the Cobblers. He's the original in New Hampshire,

711
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: the free or die for not paying taxes. He went

712
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: to the cobbler and they got him there. Oh and

713
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: they knew he was going there because he had a

714
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: shoot again, Yes, and they arrested him there. He spent

715
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: a night in jail. If only he knew how massive

716
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: the government had gotten. I mean, he would be aghast

717
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: at modern society, absolutely, I guess. But then it's like

718
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: he's so because I mean, he's very van life. He's

719
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: fan life. He's cabin porn like and he's just like,

720
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: build your tiny house and like whatever. It all comes

721
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: back to that, although he would probably think that those

722
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: tiny house people could be right, because he was like,

723
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: if they knew they had to show about a tiny house,

724
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: who'd be like, you're bragging about your tiny house. Yeah.

725
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: So Lily's stepmother has an organization that is anti lawnmower,

726
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: mostly because of the sound they make, but also the pollution.

727
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: And the organization is called Quiet Communities and it is

728
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: based in Lincoln, which is right next sort of conquered,

729
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: so you can imagine why. You know, she and my

730
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: father were are into Walden, into thorow, yes, into the

731
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: concept of simplifying and you know, quite frankly we certainly

732
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: don't need well, I mean, which is true because I

733
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: mean these the intensity of the alamowers or the frequency

734
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: the leaf blowers, the leaf flowers especially, and you know

735
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it came from basically, what's about

736
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: about a few leaves? First of all, well, yeah, aren't

737
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: you in New England? For that reason, yes, the leaves,

738
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: and these companies will hire a maintenance a lawn maintenance

739
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: company and say you just have to leaf blow for

740
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, right, six hours, and it's

741
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: just going and going. I mean, we were at your

742
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: beautiful home in Nantucket, right, and they were leaf blowing

743
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: and mowing for nine hundred hours. And this is not

744
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: against the men, of course doing the work, right, but

745
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I you know it, I think it dovetails quite accurately

746
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: with the Rosehole concept, which is just like, once again,

747
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: this is a rat race. It's like they're they're doing

748
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: this work because they've been hired to this work, and

749
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: they have to do X amount of hours of this

750
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: pointless work so that they can get paid. And then

751
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: the people are paying them because they feel that their

752
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: yards have been clean to keep up with the Jones.

753
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: And then the men who were mink for so along

754
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: then need to eat a lot of meat afterwards. And

755
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, one thing that this book made me consider,

756
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: of course, because you know, he really doesn't doubt the

757
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: concept of status and how so much of what we

758
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: attempt to attain in this life is because of attempts

759
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: to achieve status, right and right we want I mean,

760
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: that's obviously we both love shopping, but you see it's like,

761
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: do you really need this to keep up with the Jones,

762
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: and we want to look a certain way. We want

763
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: our homes to look a certain way. We want all

764
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: these you know, celestial We want these celestial ottomans, and

765
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: and and you know, and we we strive, and we

766
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: toil and toil and toil to pay the rent so

767
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: that one day, hopefully we might be a landlord ourselves,

768
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and we live in this tiny

769
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: box that maybe one day we can go in a

770
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: bigger box with more ottomans. And yet, of course, as

771
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm reading this, I'm like, you know, the idea that

772
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: he is immune to lure status, I think is ridiculous.

773
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean, right, I mean, this is the man who

774
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: went to Harvard. Why go to Harvard? Why publish? Though,

775
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: I will say this, he published Walden and Civil Disobedience,

776
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: and I think only one other thing. Okay, so he

777
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: wasn't desperately trying to He was in shooting up best

778
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: sellers here and there. But yeah, it's like, I think this,

779
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: you don't think he was trying to achieve so much fame.

780
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I relate to him in this way, whereas someone who

781
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: also went to multiple private schools is like then you're

782
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: kind of like angry at the private schools. You're like,

783
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: why are we all striving to pay money to go

784
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to these places for what? No? I mean, you know,

785
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: it is a rat. So you can say I went

786
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: to the school and then one, and then you can

787
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: get a job that pays a ton of money and

788
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: you work a sixty hour a week so you can

789
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: afford the rent on your apartment and the Ottomans, and

790
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: then to send your child to an expensive school so

791
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: they can make a lot of money to send their

792
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: you know. And it's just like where does it end?

793
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: And what is the point of all of it? And

794
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: are you really any happier than a man who does

795
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: nothing and sits in his doorway? Woodchuck. And then just

796
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: one other thing I wrote here that I did love

797
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: um that is kind of foodie, even though he's like

798
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: just into the random beans he eats. He says New

799
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Englanders should learn some new crops. He was kind of

800
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: like stopping boring and sewing all the same old crops

801
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: you've been sewing. Yeah. No, I mean he's dragged. He

802
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: drags everyone in there. So he's dragging the Concordian, he's

803
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: dragging the English, he drags the Spanish. Irish for sure. Yeah,

804
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: so it's fun. It's like, yes, he is being like

805
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm only gonnat potatoes. But then it's also like maybe

806
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: like I don't know, grow a new tomato. I guess

807
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and this is we did mention

808
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: this earlier, but just to read the actual quote, because

809
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: there's something quite I think, quite beautiful about this. Um

810
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: nay be a Columbus to whole new continents and worlds

811
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: within you, opening channels not of trade but of thought.

812
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: Every man is the lord of a realm, beside which

813
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: the earthly empire of the Czar is but a pretty

814
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: state hummack left by the ice. You know, just that

815
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: sort of that celebration of imagination. And it made me

816
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: think of another New England writer, Emily Dickinson. There's something

817
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of lonely New England people, lonely New England people.

818
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: There's something profoundly anti social about it, um and yet

819
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel I guess there's something nice about it too.

820
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel anti social in the like super sad

821
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: like alienated way that No. I mean the Unibomber, I mean,

822
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: that's more modern, but it's it's a different type of

823
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: well I think New England has a lot of romanticism

824
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, not just saying that because we are

825
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: from New England, but well, you know, and it's you know,

826
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: in terms of the post COLUMBIANAI, it's in one of

827
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: the few places in the country where there's any history Darling.

828
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: This week on the VIP Lounge, we're getting into all

829
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: sorts of fashion week events that we're going to be

830
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: going to end a serious discussion about health. Oh. I

831
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: also I had to do. I had to go to

832
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: an audiologist in the same Yeah, and it was like

833
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: so cool in scientology and they put headphones on me

834
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: and like another headband and I, oh wait, you were

835
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: literally getting audited. Yeah, And I was in a booth

836
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: and I had to say yes every time I heard

837
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: like a tiny little beep. Oh, I've done that before,

838
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: because I was just like, I'm deaf. When they were like,

839
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: your hearing is actually completely normal, she said, my hearing

840
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: was perfect, and then she was like repeat after me.

841
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Ice creams yours, popcorn, couch side Football. Subscribe on Patreon,

842
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: dot com, SATs CBC the Pod to get more content

843
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: like that every single week for only five dollars a month.

844
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: Segment pond what does she eat, what does she wear,

845
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: how does she live? What does she eat? She likes

846
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: huckleberries and beans and beads and so this is also

847
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: what's so like pandemic about him is that he was

848
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: like I really studied like the art bread making, and

849
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: I looked up so many ancient recipes, and like he

850
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: is being upstate girl like and he's all spas. I'll

851
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: think about Indian meal and he's like, it's actually really good.

852
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: And I always got like Indian like cornmeal on my

853
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: local shop. No, it's actually like regular American flower like

854
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: Indian meal is like it's at more coarse, but it's

855
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: that comes to comes out a really good texture. Um.

856
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: And so he that's like his main thing is bread

857
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: is bred baking his own. And then like if he

858
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: does have guests a total carb slot, right, hell, they'll

859
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: come over for her, come over for this either this

860
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: two persons seated event or the thirty persons standing party,

861
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: which is more like pastor derves of like leavened bread

862
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: and pean. I didn feel like he discovers sour dough

863
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: at one moment where he's like, oh, and then it

864
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: started like fermenting a little and like, I feel like

865
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: he does. Mentioned he was like, and then this started

866
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: came over from the Mayflower and like, girl, we've been

867
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: passing that shot around like a blunt ever since. Like

868
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: I remember when we went to Mission cheney Is once

869
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: and we got the pizza which was like the Offman

870
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: you thing, And I remember young me guest of the

871
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: pod told us that that like the starter from that pizza,

872
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: like Lamb pizza that was so good. I don't know

873
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: if there's a Lamb pizza is just like a pepperoni, okay,

874
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: but the starter for it was at sourdough pizza. It

875
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: was like from some famous bakery in San Francisco and

876
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: had been going since like the sixties or something like that. Yeah, no,

877
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean the stories that starters good. Tell Yeah, it's

878
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: beautiful starter. Um what is he where? A few simple garments,

879
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: simple garments and he gets them fixed and mending is

880
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: something everyone shouldn't learn. Okay, wait, did you the part

881
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: where he was like, I think tattoos are better than

882
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: clothes because at least tattoos last forever. He was like

883
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: a man with many tattoos is actually like more morally

884
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: upstanding than a man with so many pans, so tatted

885
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: like the Irish sailors. Yeah, we're all these Irish getting

886
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: like sailor Jerry tats and so shamrock. Yeah. I just

887
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's a lot of gray, a

888
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of gray wood, like a peacoat, which is also

889
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: very like beatnick of him. Well, I'm thinking again of

890
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: my high school and neighboring Weston. A lot of the

891
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: indie guys would do peacoat black skinny jeans, little black

892
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: shoes that I was like looking up these drawings of him,

893
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: and like he did have some like you know, a

894
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: white shirt under and a big collar, but it was

895
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think peacoat stuff. So I guess this

896
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: is a little more How does she live? As we said,

897
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: gue into it. He is Buddha. He's always talking about Hinduism.

898
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: He loves Hinduism. Yeah, I mean he's obsessed with like, yeah,

899
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Eastern philosophy. So like, I don't you know, I think

900
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: if he was around today, he would have like a

901
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: small stone Buddha yeah outside, Yeah, absolutely, he would be

902
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: like and one week out of the year, I sleep

903
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: on a tatammy mat. Yeah, he'd be like, it's to

904
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: Tommy week and I'm resetting, and he would have a

905
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: lot of books, but like not so many because I

906
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: feel like he'd be library. Oh, because he's like, I

907
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: don't accumulate. Yeah, okay, I buy that. You don't suit

908
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: you don't think he's so like friendly bowits and just

909
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: like Florida ceiling. I know that's what I know, with

910
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: like the ladder and it's like coming to his library

911
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and I guess he is, and they're all like think

912
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: I think now, especially because just like books are so

913
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: like you know, forgotten and abandon and the books. Because

914
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: he does have that part where he anthropomorphizes his furniture

915
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: when he cleans it. When he's like, when my floor

916
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: is dirty, I take all the furniture out, put pond

917
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: water and sandal over the floor and like scrub it.

918
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, and then I gazed upon my three

919
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: legged stool. I thought it might enjoy the fresh air

920
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: for a bit, and seemed like it did not want

921
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: to return to the inside. I'm like, okay, like Julio

922
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: Torres like a story about a chair, So yes, he

923
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: would be floor to ceiling Buddha. I think a low

924
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: bed medium. I think medium bed because it needs like

925
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: there's like so many like wasps and like termites in there.

926
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Probably he is also definitely like I would say, very

927
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: like didn't miss Dad also or something like it's in

928
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: this way where it's like, you know, he is like

929
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: a faded dad hat. Also, I think because today he

930
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: would be like so tiny house and like those are

931
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: usually high bet because there's so much storage. Oh true,

932
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: and he needs like such a storage system underneath. Yeah,

933
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: growlers of like non alcoholic meat or whatever. Yeah, his

934
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: zero points zero meat. It's because he does drink. But

935
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: then he's always like you are a loser if you drink,

936
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: and like then he's just like, oh, you need coffee

937
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: in the morning, you need tea after dinner. Try looking within.

938
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: It's like have one barrel. Yeah, but then again it's

939
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: like you know we do, we do. These things are crutches. No.

940
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: I slammed a Vietnamese iced coffee and then got like

941
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: midtown fast casual Indian sounds like diarrhea. No, I know.

942
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a crazy decision. Why am

943
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: I like just inhaling all these things that I think

944
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I need. I don't need these things, these things I

945
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: needed food. I was hungry. Yeah, I mean you didn't

946
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: need the full as I don't think I need so

947
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: much sugar. Oh they're so yummy. Um. As we stated,

948
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: you are the town gossip at the downcose of I'm

949
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: bustling about. I'm just like seeing him get arrested at

950
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: the cobbler, like texting like on a scroll. No, you're

951
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: sending so many letters at the post office. Oh yeah,

952
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: I have a huge stack of letters. It's my texting

953
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: to like all your other chicas, like in Quincy. It

954
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: just like Quincy and Braintree, and so like you're getting

955
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: her all about this fago who's building a cabin at

956
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: the pond, and they're like, well, miss Marauda you and

957
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: they like give me like a duffle of my letters,

958
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: and I'm just like fuck yes. And then I'm just

959
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: like coming to the town to do my washingfold once

960
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: a week, and I'm seeing you be like, oh there

961
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: she is again, letter girl, letter girl, all her letters.

962
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh gab gab gab. Okay, But aren't you also just

963
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: like your rich guy in Cared who was like so

964
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: many like ancient Chinese dressers. I am and I'm going

965
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: to your house and I'm like you have to read

966
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: this letter. I'm drowning in automans. We're both like that,

967
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: and he's so sketchy. You're like, he's kind of like hot.

968
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: He's like hot, you know that way, he's like lanky,

969
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: like whatever. Wait, I actually dumbo ears. I see, just

970
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: total dumbo ears. I'm going to actually just like do

971
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: one of my morning walks and like accidentally run into

972
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: him bathing, and you're like, you're sick. Tell me all

973
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: about it. All right, Well, I honestly this I thought

974
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: this book was was honest, it was beautiful. I give

975
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: this book four out of five bushels of being for

976
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: sale at two dollars and six cents. I you know,

977
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: and I gotta give it to him. He really started

978
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of thought. Okay, he put Walden on the map. Yeah,

979
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: he put you know, being an indie guy with a

980
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: cabin on the map. So I mean, just for that,

981
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I give this four eels who are no longer inhabitants

982
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: of Walden Pond out of five former winged cat because

983
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: of pollution and overfishing. I think him and all of

984
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: his little imaginary friends were overfishing all the eels. I

985
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: do feel like I will say, like, I guess this

986
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: book isn't even taught in schools anymore. But like if

987
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: you I'd read this in middle school, high school, I

988
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: don't think I would have really like gotten it because

989
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: it's like reading this now you need to be an

990
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: adult who does over indulge in things, right, who over

991
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: indulges and also just like works to pay rent and

992
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: is just like, oh, like the world is boring, Why

993
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: like do we do this? It's like as a thirty

994
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: five year old, like they're barely employed, like free answer.

995
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like this book is really like

996
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: making a lot of sentence. And I feel like if

997
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: you're just like a sixteen year old, like I was

998
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: annoyed by him now, I would have been so annoyed

999
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: by him then I would have been like off of

1000
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: this so boring. I mean also, reading this like hot

1001
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: day before just like like on Labor Day weekend was

1002
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: such flashbacks to me trying to finish the Communist Manifesto

1003
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: um before school started, and like in high school that

1004
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I chose as my summer reading because I wanted to

1005
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: be no, I wanted I was like, oh I'm so punk,

1006
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I know. I was like and everyone all my friends

1007
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: made fun of me. They're like, you're really going to

1008
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: like read the Communist Manifesto and I was like, yeah,

1009
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm literally punk. Sorry, sorry, I'm like a total anarchists, Like, sorry,

1010
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: don't believe in your fucking capitalist system, dude. They're like, so, Lily,

1011
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: what do you believe when You're like, I'm getting into

1012
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: it obviously I never finished it, so yeah, all right, well,

1013
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: club kids, this has been another amazing and thank you

1014
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: for sharing it with us, and we'll see you soon,

1015
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: see you as soon, Keep reading, keep swimming in pose

1016
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: mm bad bast. Celebrity Book Club is presented by Prolot Projects.

1017
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,680
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1018
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,680
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1019
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