1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 2: It is Sunday, December seventh, and a renewed effort is 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: about to get underway this month to solve what is 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: quite possibly the greatest aviation mystery in history. What happened 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: to Malaysian air Flight MH Yes, three seventy. You know 6 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: that name, and you know it well. Welcome to this 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: episode of Amy and TJ. 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Roves. Is that fair to say? 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we think aviation mysteries, and I think Amelia 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Earhart comes to people's minds immediately. Is this not I 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: know that one's one hundred years on that one almost, 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: but this Malaysian Airlines three seventy? 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: My god? 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Yes. 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: When you if you actually google the greatest aviation mystery 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: of all time, Malaysian Flight three seventy comes up every 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: single time. So yes, I think pretty much everyone agrees 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: because look, yes, obviously Amelia Earhart comes to mind. That's 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: one person she had a copilot with her right, two 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: people missing. We are talking, yeah, we are talking about 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty nine souls, passengers and crew. Every 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: one of those folks had family and friends waiting for them, 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: wondering what happened to them, and tortured by the fact 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: that they don't know where or how their loved ones died. 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: And look, I'm sure some of them hold on to 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: hope that somehow they're on some deserted island somewhere that 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: miniseries have been made of. 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: But they just want to be able to have some closure. 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: You said, they don't know what happened. They don't know 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: how it happened. 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: They don't have a clue, not a clue. 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: They don't have a freakin We're ten years plus into this. 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: They can't tell us anything about what happened. They can 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: tell us what didn't happen. They can tell or we 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: didn't get a distress call, we didn't get this sweetheart, 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: that wasn't bad weather. There was no distress, there was 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: no hijacking, there was no They do not have a clue. Still, 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: what happened to this flight? That adds to a bit 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: of mystery here, No, I will say, adds to we 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: got two hundred. 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: And thirty nine people who disappear without a. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: Trace, correct without it. 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen. 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: And you know, most aviation accidents or issues occur on 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 4: takeoff and landing. It very rarely something happens thirty plus 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: minutes into a flight, after you've already reached altitude, everyone settled, 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: you are literally cruising on autopilot, and then to have 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: that seemingly be everything's fine, We're all on course, and 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: to have a complete stop of all communications and you 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: can see on the radar that the plane turns around 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: and goes where nobody. 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Knows, and that we we assume it goes down. 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: There has been and we'll get into it in a 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: moment of just very very small amounts of this plane 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: that washed up in some places we'll talk about. But 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: what we're talking about here now, and the reason it's 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: back in the headlines is folks, they'll give them credit. 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: In Malaysia, they did not let it go. There are folks, 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: there are families who are still wanting answers and don't 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: have them after eleven years. So Malaysia, the government there 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: has not essentially stopped this effort. The official search was suspended, 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: so they officially stopped, but there have been renewed efforts 63 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: over the years, and this is a new one they 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: have now. The Malaysian government has contracted an American robotics company, 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: Oceanic or ocean Infinity, is the name of it, but 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: a marine robotics company and say, hey, here's the contract. 67 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: You find it and we'll pay you. And that's the 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: contract they have, and this effort is about to get 69 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: under way ropes on December thirtieth. They have a deadline. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: You find it and you get paid. 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: They have fifty five days, so Ocean Infinity of Texas 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: based company is going to start or resume. They actually 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: began this back in March, but the weather was too bad, 75 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: so they called it off and said we'll resume it 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: later in the year when the Indian Ocean is in. 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: A better position to be searched. 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 4: I guess is the best way to put it. But 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: they're going to start on December thirtieth. They have fifty 80 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: five days to find what they can find from this plane. 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: They say they've got some areas that they know are 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: the most likely that the wreckage could be. But they 83 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: will get seventy million dollars if they find it and 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: zero dollars if they don't. It's called a no fine, 85 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: no fee. 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Contracts preod deal. I mean, that's a pretty smart way 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: to go about it. 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: And why not. 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: You'll get paid if you find this thing. Everybody is 90 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: highly motivated, are they not. I didn't see anywhere ropes. 91 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: You tell me if you did, Like what constitutes wreckage? 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Like do you have to find the entire thing? Do 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: you have to find a black box? Do you have 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: to find with? Is this wing big enough? 95 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Like? 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I really wonder, like how much constitutes finding the record 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: the fine print somewhere? 98 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: But yes, a little tiny bits have been found along shorelines, 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: but nothing of any significance. And can you imagine if 100 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: they found the black box. If they found that black box, 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: so many years of frustrations and wondering and what possibly 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: could they could all be answered with that black box 103 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: because as of right now, the only thing they have 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: is the pilot's last radio call. And the pilot called 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: in to Kuala Lumpur and said good night Malaysian three 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: seven zero. That was the final communication, and then the 107 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: plane went over into Vietnamese airspace, never to be heard 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: from again. It never checked in with air traffic controllers 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: there in Vietnam. And the weird thing is that the 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: plane's transponder shut down, So that's why they don't know 111 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: where it went. They don't they think it kept flying. 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: They think maybe it just ran out of fuel, but they. 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: Don't know where it went. 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: I remember that being such an intriguing theory at the time, 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: the idea that this was a ghost plane. Essentially that 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: everybody possibly if they lost cabin pressure and everybody was 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: knocked out on the plane and this thing just kept 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: going for hours, possibly crashed after it ran out of fuel. 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: That was one theory. The thing that was also intriguing 120 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: Robes is because they were able, they say, at least 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: to confirm someone intentionally turned that plane and did they 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: not say what about the transplant, But there was intent 123 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: in what happened in some movement of this plane. 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: Yes, So even though the transponders shut down, military radar 125 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: was actually able to see the plane and see the 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 4: jet turn back over the Indian Ocean, and then they 127 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 4: could look at satellite data and that showed that they 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: believed the plane kept flying for hours until it literally 129 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: ran out of fuel and then they think crashed somewhere 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: in the southern Indian Ocean, and they believe that someone 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: deliberately severed communications and diverted the plane. That is what 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: Malaysian authorities came up with. They say, we believe someone 133 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: deliberately severed communication. So yes, theories hijacking. Could they're a 134 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: been a hijacker or CAVIN depressurization or power failure. But 135 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: when you don't have a distress call, you don't have 136 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: a ransom demand. Like if someone did hijack the plane, 137 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: why would they not have communicated and said, here's here 138 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: are our demands, here's what we want. We have these 139 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: folks in our control, and we are going to do. 140 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: This if you don't give us that. 141 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: So there was no communication, so that almost doesn't make sense. 142 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: And to your point, there was no severe weather. 143 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: They don't believe there was any technical failure, so it 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: is truly a mystery. 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: Like they you know, oftentimes they put these things together 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: and they say in it's our belief or we have 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: a like who dah da da. 148 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: They got nothing. 149 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Eleven years later, this thing flat out vanished off the 150 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: face of the earth. I give them credit. I did 151 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: not know that they were still keeping an eye on 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: this over the years. There's no fine, no fee contract. 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: They apparently tried this with the same company years and 154 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: years I think twenty eighteen, twenty nineth whatever, they've tried 155 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: this before. These efforts have been going on over the 156 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: years and to see them, I'd like to see a 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: big push. It sounds like they're going big, like we're 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: just trying, not just I love that this was important 159 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: to them to give two hundred and thirty nine people's 160 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: families some kind of answer. 161 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,239 Speaker 3: Can you imagine? 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: I was just trying to It's hard enough, obviously to 163 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: lose a loved one. To lose a loved one suddenly 164 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: in a tragic accident is another horrific thing to have 165 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: to try to get your head around. Now you don't 166 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: know what happened, you don't know where their body is, 167 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: you don't know how they. 168 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: Died, you don't know why they died. 169 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: That that to haunt you, like until the day you're 170 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: you are gone. So yes, so many families have refused payment. 171 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 4: The Malaysian government has said, hey, we want to compensate 172 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: some of the family members of the folks who were 173 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: on these planes. A lot of people have said, no, 174 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: we refuse. We and some people have decided to try 175 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: to get a lawsuit going, but mostly just to get answers. 176 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: They don't it's not even about the money. And I 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: would understand that. It's like I don't want the money. 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: I want answers. I want to know what happened. 179 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: Money feels like closure. It sounds like, oh okay, it's done. 180 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: Now you paid me off and it's over him. 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Give the money to go find the search, to go search, 182 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: you know for And so I do think I agree 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: with you. I think that is really admirable and incredible 184 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: because yes, technically, do you need to find out all 185 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: of the answers, No, but there's a human element to 186 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: all of this, and such a tremendous amount of loss 187 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: and people want answers. 188 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: You know, I actually look this up. This is pretty remarkable. 189 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't as if they didn't try. 190 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: As you pointed out, there were several different iterations of 191 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: searches for the last I guess from twenty fourteen till 192 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, sixty ships, fifty aircraft from twenty six countries. 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: So it wasn't as if Malaysia was doing this on 194 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: their own. People from around the world. Countries from around 195 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: the world sent resources to Malaysia to help, and still 196 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: with the best technology, with all of those aircraft and ships, 197 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: they still found they've never found a body. Can you imagine, 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: they've never found any large or like decent piece of wreckage. 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: That is almost unthinkable. I know the ocean is vast, 200 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: I know it is deep, but it still seems like 201 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: with the technology we have, that's like it seems almost 202 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: impossible that something could disappear completely. 203 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: You know, and they would, they argue, it's almost impossible 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: to find. Now, it's one of the scariest things in 205 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: the world, or at least the feeling that I had 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: to be out in the middle of the ocean and 207 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: you can't see land, right. We see stuff on a globe, 208 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: we see it on a map, we see that body 209 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: of water. There is just the majority of this world 210 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: is covered in that. 211 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: It is water. 212 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, how vast these areas are. And I know, folks, 213 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: they got the technology, they've had the people. But one 214 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: of the biggest problems here robes. They don't know where 215 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: the hell to look. They don't know where the damn 216 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: thing went down. So now you got to it's bad 217 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: enough if you had even a few square miles. They 218 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: don't have a clue where to actually start looking everything. 219 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: As a guest, there's no evidence of this is the spot. 220 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: All they can do is maybe if this happened, then 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: they would have gone down here if they went down 222 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: this direction after this many hours, then maybe here it is. 223 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine the task. 224 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: Well they have obviously, I guess what they could base 225 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: it off of is marking off where they've already looked. 226 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: But then I'm thinking tides, ocean movement. You know, even 227 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: if maybe they got in close to the right spot, 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: it could. 229 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: Have moved, shifted. We're talking almost eleven years. 230 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: That is remarkable, a huge amount of time, and God 231 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: knows what the ocean does. But it was a large plane. 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: We're talking about it Boeing seven seven seven. Correct, this 233 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: is a huge plane, and it's just it is still 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: I get it. I get the vastness of the ocean, 235 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: but it still seems unthinkable to me that you would 236 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: not be able to account for any significant piece of 237 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: that plane in any way like that has never happened before. 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Well, folks will stay with us. How big of an 239 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: area they think they're searching for or searching in? Now 240 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: they have, yes, target it a very specific area, but 241 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: the area is as big as one northeastern US state. 242 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: All right, bones, welcome back. 243 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: We continue on Amy and tj answers, maybe possibly coming 244 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: search will continue from Malaysian air Flight three seventy that 245 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: went down and twenty fourteen, essentially without a trace, two 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine people on board, all dead. All 247 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: those families waiting for answers after all these years, and 248 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: they have not gotten them yet. The area now robes 249 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: they're trying to search is a new one they've targeted, 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: and they've kind of I guess you can cord an off, 251 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: if you will, a certain section of the ocean now 252 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: where they're going to check. But I don't remember the 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: square mileage fifty five hundred plus square was it? 254 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, initially I know that they've covered forty six 255 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: thousand square miles. 256 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: Can you get your head around that? 257 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: That's the number I saw that they actually Australia, Malaysia 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: and China over these four years, this period twenty fourteen 259 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: to twenty eighteen, they covered forty six thousand square miles. 260 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: So now they've narrowed it down to what about a 261 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 4: tenth of that, give or take. 262 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: Well, I remember the exact number with fifty five. Let's 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: just say that fifty five hundred plus maybe fifty eight 264 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: hundred square miles, And I have no concept of what 265 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: that looks like but it looks like the state of Connecticut. 266 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 267 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: So take I don't even know how long it takes 268 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: to drive across the state how but imagine something that 269 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: takes you that long to drive across for hours, just 270 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: put it out in the middle of the other How 271 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: do you cover that area. I don't know what technology 272 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: they use and how they but we're making the point. 273 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: The area is vast, yes, And so you talk about 274 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: how big the plane is, that big plane in the 275 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: water is. 276 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: A needle in a big ass pool water. 277 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: Because you know what, it's not just the state of Connecticut. 278 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: I think that helps with visualization in terms of just 279 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: how large the area is. 280 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: But now consider the depth. 281 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, I mean the depth of the ocean there. 282 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: I don't I can't imagine, but I know that it's 283 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: one of the most uncharted parts of our planet. Be 284 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: for a reason because it's hard to get to, it's 285 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: hard to reach, it's hard to know what is and 286 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: this would you would assume if it's stayed put or 287 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: is in a certain part of it. It's all the 288 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: way at the bottom of the ocean floor. Now I 289 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: know that they've used vessels, and they're using vessels that 290 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: have sonar and robotic submarines, so you're using sonar trying 291 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: to find this wreckage, and then you go off in 292 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: little submarines and try to I mean the amount of 293 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: just technology, but then actual risk to folks looking for 294 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: the parts of this plane. I imagine that's a significant 295 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: issue as well. Just to put yourself in this position 296 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: to go down and to try to find something at 297 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: this depth, with this type of square mileage, it's overwhelming. 298 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: You know, things like this always think back to the 299 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: Titanic when they finally found that and the technology they 300 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: use to discover this is now one of those things. 301 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: We will have that video potentially at some point we 302 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: will have that remarkable that moment where they go wow 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: and that what they're looking for is a damn cemetery 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the ocean. So this isn't a yes, 305 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: there was something to be celebrated if this is found. 306 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: That we hope it is, but man, what we have 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: to remember and we kind of don't you feel that way. 308 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we have visitors and tourists, we. 309 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Live down here in Lower Manhattan, but we have to 310 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: remember and you do you take a moment every time 311 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: you walk through the non eleven memorial, those two footprints 312 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: where those towers stood. This is a burial ground for 313 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: a lot of folks, and this is a cemetery, And 314 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: I immediately thought about that, what they're actually searching for 315 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: and the answers they're searching for. There's an underwater cemetery 316 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: right now, and there's something morbid certainly about that. But 317 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: at the same time it's I was, so I have 318 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: no personal connection to the story, and your heart goes 319 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: out and you're rooting for Malaysia and all those families 320 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: right now. 321 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: You know, there have been many articles written now recently 322 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: because of this renewed search that is about to get 323 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: underway on December thirtieth, and some of the outlets media 324 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: out go through who was on that plane? 325 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, you hear two. 326 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty seven passengers, twelve crew members. But you 327 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: start to hear some of the stories, and they will 328 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: even put up some. 329 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Pictures of family members going to. 330 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: The walls the memorials that have been set up around 331 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: Malaysia just to pay their respects. But the pain that's 332 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: still on the faces of the fathers and the mothers 333 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: and the brothers and the families and the husbands and wives. 334 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: It's heart wrenching because you, yes, this is a mystery, 335 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: Yes we want to know what happened, but there are 336 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: so many individual stories of trauma and tragedy. Yeah, most 337 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 4: of the passengers on the plane were Chinese, but there 338 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: were Americans, Indonesians, French, Russia, like, there were so many 339 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: people on board this planes, on this plane, sorry, who 340 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: had futures and hopes and dreams. 341 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: And to start to read their stories. 342 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: I started to do it, and you really can get 343 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: caught up in just the mystery and the folks and 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: the families. 345 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: Who want to know what happened to their loved ones. 346 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: Well, it's they got fifty five days, it's starting December thirtieth. 347 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: They're going to start searching. So hopefully something will turn up. 348 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: I think any little thing at this point will take. 349 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: But what a mystery. It's one of those fascinating things 350 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: like Calamilia Earhart is just you want answers. 351 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: We'll haven't figured that one out, but that was a 352 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 3: much smaller plane. 353 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Those were re newed effort for that as well, So 354 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: researchers think they found something there as well. So can 355 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: you imagine the same year both those mysteries gets solved 356 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: within moments of each other, months. 357 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Or whatever that could happen. 358 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: There is a new search effort headed there, and now 359 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 4: we've obviously got this Texas company heading to the Indian 360 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: Ocean to try and solve that mystery as well. But 361 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: we certainly hope we get answers, but more importantly for 362 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 4: the people who love those those folks who are on 363 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 4: that plane, that they get some answers and they finally 364 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: can have some peace knowing what happened to their loved ones. 365 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: But we will continue to follow this story again. 366 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: The search starts on December thirtieth, But in the meantime, 367 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: thank you so much everyone for listening to us, I 368 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: mean me Robot alongside t. J. 369 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: Holmes.