1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Torontosaurus rex. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to eighty. It was 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: bo wow that prime time. Maybe I had a crush 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: on Betty Rubbell. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: the game. You're listening to to Gotton Company. 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: We are happy to be joined by j Billis joining 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: us from a hotel room in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: He's got Carolina Kansas tonight. And Taylor said to me 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: right before my executive producer here, Jay said to me 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: right before we went on air, he said, hey, Billis, 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: he's in Chapel Hill. I said, for what he said, 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Carolina Kansas. That's college basketball. Do you agree with that? 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Jay? Billis? 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Actually do damn? 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: I mean North Carolina Kansas are like two of the 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: four winningest programs in basketball history. And the crossover between 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: the two places, like I was laughing about this yesterday. 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: So Hubert Davis to coach at Carolina right now played 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: for Dean Smith. Dean Smith played at Kansas for fog Allen, 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: and fog Allen played for doctor James Naismith. I mean, 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: that's better than six degrees of Kevin Bacon right there? 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: What's that? Just three degrees to James Naismith. 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Good. I'd have to go a little 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: bit further. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Right, Wait, so you were discussing this with someone, you 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: were you were thinking, Yeah. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: Dan Truman and I were talking about it yesterday at practice. 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: You know, we're looking at this going, you know, like 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: the you know, Larry Brown played at North Carolina and 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: was coach at Kansas. Roy Williams's assistant at Carolina went 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 4: there coach at Kansas. Dean Smith played at Kansas on 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: a national championship team in nineteen fifty two, coach at 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: North Carolina. I mean, the cross over between the two 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: places is kind of amazing. And then you get all 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: the way back, like Kansas has had eight head coaches 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: in their one hundred year history or whatever it is, right, 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: and the only losing coach they had was doctor Nasmith, 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: who invented the damn game. 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: Wow, what a loser. 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Total and betting the game Trump's coaching record, though, right, 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: so exactly exactly. 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: You can always say, like, who do you think you are? 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Nate Smith? 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm better than that guy, Stu. I know 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: the audience doesn't really isn't really privy to this, but 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 5: I have to ask why on your screen, Jada, is 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: it say Digger Phelps? Did you long ago steal his laptop? 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 5: Maybe his zoom log in? 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Is that still on there? It was probably from 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: an old game. 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: Day meeting when we would log on and and I 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: just put Digger's name in there just to piss him off. 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 6: Hey, how does Carolina match up with this Kansas team? 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 6: Because I don't know too much about Kansas early except 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 6: for the fact that they have the number one player 61 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 6: in high school recruiting class. 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're They're I think Carolina matches up really well. 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: Like the one thing about North Carolina as opposed to 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: last year, their guards were really small. 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: Last year. You know, of course they had RJ. 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: Davis, But like Elliot, Cano's small, they got positional size. 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: This year. All the guards are six five or so. 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: And then they've got Caleb Wilson, who will not the 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: number one player. 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: Last year, he was top six or seven something like that. 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: And they played two exhibitions, one against BYU and then 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: they played they played their first game against Central Arkansas. 73 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: He's had over twenty points in every game. I mean, 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: he's been incredibly consistent at a high level. He's really 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: really talented. So they'll be they'll be very competitive. I 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: think Carolina's going to be much better than they were 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: last year. At least they have a chance to be. 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: And they were good last year but not not great. 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: And I think they've got a chance to be really 80 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: good this year. And then Kansas they're going to be 81 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: better too. But it's funny like Kansas has picked sixth 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: in the league. All all these rankings I think are 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: partly based upon the preseason stuff, based upon how they 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: did last year, and in Kansas didn't play well last year, 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: and so now everybody's down. I mean, they won the 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: league like one hundred years in a row and they 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: had one down year and everybody that's over. 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: It's over for Bill's helf. You needs to find out 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: something else to do, so. 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Stupid, Wait, but you did a sixty eight team index. 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: Didn't you. 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and I'm never wrong, so what could 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: be wrong about doing it with the transfer portal and 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: trying to figure everything out in November. I mean, but 95 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: you know, when we're funny about that though, like sixty 96 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: eight is ridiculous. But when when you do a preseason 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: top twenty five and then you know there are all 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: these ups and downs of the season, when you get 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: to the end, it's remarkable how much closer your initial rankings. 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: Are than you would drink. 101 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 4: Yes, that that that surprises me that it happens that 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: way more often than not. 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: It was Ohio State, Texas and college football they played 104 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Week one. Now Texas is creeping back into it. But 105 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: you're right, it takes a minute. But usually those things 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: are fairly accurate. 107 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: Right, Sometimes you're wrong, but you know they're done for interest. 108 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: You know, if we knew, I mean. 109 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, with all the stuff, you would be telling me. 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hesitate because all the gambling nonsense's going 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: on right now. 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: But when people when when our employer, yours whatever, ask 113 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: you to pick games. 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: Like who's gonna win, who's gonna win the Super Bowl? 115 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: Like if we knew who was gonna win. 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: Vegas breaking it in, Like we we think we know, 117 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: but but we don't know. 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Who's gonna win the national championship? 119 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: Yet I think Houston's gonna win this year. Bank on it, 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: never wrong. 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 122 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: Is like I started reading the Billis Index and I 123 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: got to number twenty six and I was like, oh wow, 124 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: there's still more, And then it was sixty eighteens and 125 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: I was like, wow, how long did that take you? 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: Jay? 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: That feels like it must have taken like multiple weeks, 128 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: like not just a couple of dates. 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I have help now. 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: I used to do it all myself, so I do 131 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: have help with some of the capsules. 132 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: But over the years, like it started out as kind 133 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: of a. 134 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: Rip on the RPI, which I used to think was 135 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: kind of ridiculous, and so I created this ridiculous persona 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: that you know that had the all knowing illustrator, and 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: it's you know, you do the best you can. But 138 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: what you find is that most people aren't like you guys. 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: They don't read the whole thing, or considered the reading 140 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 4: the whole thing. They look for their team and then 141 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: they get pissed off about where their team is ranked. Yes, 142 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: and so much of what we seem to do now 143 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: is what's going to piss everybody off, and I've become 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: really good at that. 145 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: I'm very proud one. 146 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Of the best. 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 6: Yes, North Carolina at twenty eight, Auburn at twenty seven, 148 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 6: I just fundamentally disagree with that. 149 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: Well, when Auburn was taken overtime by Bethune Cookman, I 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: was disagreeing too, you know. 151 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: But it's a long call thing. We're going to look 152 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: back on this. 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: Like last year when I predicted the tournament and I 154 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: predicted all four number one seeds to make the final four, 155 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: and then Houston and Florida to be in the final 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: I got roasted on selection Sunday. 157 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: And I didn't respond. I'm like, we'll see what happens. 158 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: You know, maybe I'm right. 159 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: And then when I was right, I went out and 160 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: told everybody, see like you know that I always tell 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: Rees Davis like like, I don't like taying us saying 162 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: I told you so. 163 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: I love it. 164 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm going to prove to you that I read some 165 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: of the billis Index at number one, you had Purdue, 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: You No, I got finer than that. 167 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: I want to know who twenty seven was. 168 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: Purdue is like the weird rare team at least these 169 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 5: days that has like a narrative to it. It's just like, Oh, 170 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: we've been trying to get over this hump with this group. 171 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: Oh maybe shift the group a little bit, change the 172 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: way we play a little bit. 173 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: But I'm just. 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: Curious what makes this year the year for Purdue and 175 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: why is I guess Braydon Smith's so fun to watch? 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got well you mentioned if they got the 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: best point guard in the country, and I don't think 178 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: it's a hard decision. 179 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: There are other great ones, but he's the best one. 180 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: And he's just got an ability level and a toughness 181 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: level that you don't see very often. But produced kind 182 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: of the anti anti current portal team. You know, they 183 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: do use the portal a bit, but they're kind of like, look, 184 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: this is the way we do it. We're not out 185 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: trying to get five star guys that are only going 186 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: to be here for a year. This is who we are. 187 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: If you're not willing to fit in here, we wish 188 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: you the best, but we're not going to change for you. 189 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: We're asking you to change for us, and we think 190 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: you're going to get something really. 191 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: Good out of it. And Matt Painter's been there. 192 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy, he's been there twenty years now, 193 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: and I played on the US national Select team for 194 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: his coach, Gene Katie, back in nineteen eighty five. And 195 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: like Purdue hasn't changed its uh, its value system or 196 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: its culture in all those years. 197 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: Like Matt's different from coach Katie, who. 198 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 4: Was like a central casting, uh kind of coach. I 199 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: don't I'm sorry to take you off on this tangent, 200 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: but but during that national team experience, that US Select team, 201 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: when we had our first team meeting, UH, coach Katie 202 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: had our team goal. He had all the room assignments, 203 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: practice times on this white board or blackboard whatever it 204 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: was in the hotel. And then up in the upper 205 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: right hand cornered had the team goals. And number one 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: was win a gold medal, and number two was fight communism. 207 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: And this is bigger than I thought. There card play 208 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: the police, you're always going to say, look, we can't 209 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: do this anymore. 210 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: We got to go straight to capitalism like their guard plays. 211 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: It is too good. And then but you know, people laugh. 212 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: Five years later the wall came down. 213 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: So guys did it. 214 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: You're welcome. Uh. 215 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Gen Katie was an intimidating motherfucker man. He really was yes, yeah, that. 216 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: Was the first timed water break I'd ever had. We 217 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: had timed water breaks and uh uh he but he 218 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: was awesome, like he was. He came across as really gruff, 219 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: but he was a big sweetheart and uh and ever since, 220 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: ever since then. 221 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: Like he you know, he's been an ally to all 222 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: of us. 223 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: And although he didn't know, uh, he didn't really pronounce 224 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: he couldn't pronounce our names. Like he told us in 225 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 4: the first team meeting, like he was instrumental in handpicking 226 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: the team because it was the US Select team. And 227 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: he said, you know, my wife and I have a 228 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: satellite dish and I watch all you guys play, and 229 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: I scouted all of you and uh, and. 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: I was on the team. 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: And then Tommy Amicker, one of my college teammates on 232 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: the team, and he went through some of the players 233 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: and then he goes byless aymaker. I apparently watched all 234 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: those games with the sound off. He couldn't pronounce our 235 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: name games. 236 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Jay Bilass with a company. 237 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: How did the second best player, the second biggest recruit 238 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: in the country wind up at BYU. When does b 239 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: YU get that kind of player? 240 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the first answer is going to be 241 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: money because BYU has made a financial commitment, so people 242 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: are automatically going to go, oh, they're just buying a 243 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: team Like that wasn't happening before NIL came in, you know, 244 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: and the high resource schools weren't building these lavish facilities 245 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: and flying private and providing an environment for players to 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: come into. 247 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: It's really the same thing. 248 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: But the other part is they you know, they hired 249 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: Kevin Young from the NBA and so it's a it's 250 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 4: kind of a pro style offense and all that. 251 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: So it's become a much more attractive place to play. 252 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: And like the whole thing about athletes getting compensated, I 253 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: think the initial reaction of people was, uh, the rich 254 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: are going to get richer, and that's not what's happened. 255 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: Like I think most economists would have told you at 256 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: the time that no, this is going to spread talent 257 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: out more. 258 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: And I think that's what it's done. 259 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: I don't know that we have the data to make 260 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: a conclusion, but I think some pretty good evidence is Indiana, 261 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: Virginia and Vanderbilt are headed to the college football Playoff 262 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: and BYU has the number one or number two player 263 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: in the country coming in now I mean, the talent 264 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: is going to other places than the traditional powers. 265 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Now you are so right, when did you think, like 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: I never thought we'd arrive at a time where Kurt Signetti, 267 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: the head coach of Indiana, stays in Indiana because he 268 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: doesn't want to go to Penn State j to coach football. 269 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: Right, And you know, it's not an indicament on Penn State. 270 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: It's just that there are other places now that you 271 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: can win because the dirty secret is now out that 272 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: the most important thing to winning is players. And now 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: that you can go out and compete for players and 274 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: put your resources on the field, on the floor, there 275 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: are more teams that can be competitive. 276 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Now does that go. 277 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: All the way down to James Madison or something? Probably not, 278 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: But the same players are filtering down to that level 279 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: that have always been there. But like just in football, 280 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: for example, I'm not a football guy. I like football, 281 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: but you know, Alabama can't stockpop players three deep anymore 282 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: because they can't afford to pay their third linebacker what 283 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: another school can afford to pay them as their top linebacker. 284 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: So that's spreading talent out more. And that's that's largely, 285 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: in my view, a really good thing and you know, 286 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: one last thing on this like while people like to 287 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: complain about and I think the complaints are phony, but 288 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: that's up to them. 289 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: People like to complain about money going to players. 290 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Now, Oh you know, dogs and cats are living together, 291 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: and the whole thing's going to hell in a handbasket. 292 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: It's amazing how nobody's moaning about two hundred million dollars 293 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: in coach buyouts being paid before we get to October 294 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: tenth or excuse me, November tenth, and they're not worried 295 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: about Olympic sports or all these other things that they 296 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: worried about. Oh, you know, women's sports are going to 297 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: be her Olympic sports if an athlete gets a nickel. 298 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: And coach buyouts are approaching national debt levels. 299 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: Jay, I'm a Florida Gator, and I would love to 300 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: just ask you about that team, but there's too much 301 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 5: change in the back court to. 302 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: Really predict anything. Yet. 303 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: After that first game, I realized that those guards really 304 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: like to get their shots blocked, which I don't think 305 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 5: it is a great quality to have. But they have 306 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: a seven foot nine guy on the team, and it's 307 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: Olivier Reu. 308 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, that's that. 309 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: Is that a guy to have your eyes, to have 310 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: their people's eyes on your program? Or do you see 311 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: Golden actually utilizing this guy over the next three or 312 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: four years because everybody wants to see it. 313 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think Todd took him as one 314 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: he's a he's a really good young man. But I 315 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: think he took him as a project that if this 316 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: thing works out, it could be really intriguing and really helpful. 317 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: He's he's coordinated and there's a chance that he could 318 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: play in the future. But if it doesn't work out, 319 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: what he you know, what do you lose? It's not 320 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: that big of a deal. And and but god, he 321 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: made They got a lot of big guys, as you know, 322 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: and he makes them look small. 323 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, uh, you know. 324 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: I did the opening night or the second night to 325 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: the NBA, did Dallas San Antonio, and I've seen Victor 326 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: Wambanyama fair amount, but god, it's still you look at 327 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: him and he's standing next to Derek Lively the second 328 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: Derek Lively, it's like seven to two, and he made 329 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: him look like he was six four wow, and it was. 330 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: A six eighty. 331 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: They're so big. 332 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: Jay you're six eight, right, Yeah, they listed me at 333 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: six eight. 334 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm sixty seven and shrinking. 335 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Apparently all there. 336 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 5: It's one of the six eight guys on the team 337 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: they played yesterday who just stood next to him and 338 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: then stared up to get that perspective, Like you are 339 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: a foot taller than Stu Gotts. I believe, right, so 340 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: you experienced this amongst normal people. But like, that's got 341 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 5: to be crazy for Olivier just through his entire life 342 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: to be going through that, He said in the post 343 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: game yesterday, Well just another day, even though he set 344 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 5: a world record for the tallest player to play on 345 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: a court, Like it's got to be crazy to be 346 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 5: that tall. 347 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Every day I think. 348 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: What people kind of don't think about or care about much. 349 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm only six seven, that's tall. I 350 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: don't really know how tall people are that are shorter 351 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: than me, Like I'm very good, I'm very poor. Like 352 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: I can tell you exactly how big guys are that 353 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: are taller than me, But if they're not as tall, 354 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 355 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: I can't tell the difference six four five. 356 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: He just maybe five to seven. I mean Jesus, that's 357 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: sure that. 358 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: People don't you know, don't really think about. 359 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: And I used to ask players this kind of as 360 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: a joke to get their responses, like where does being 361 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: tall hit you? 362 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: Like on the road, and. 363 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: It's beds, showers, being able to sit in a chair 364 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: at a restaurant. 365 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 366 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: And then airplanes, like people are always saying to me 367 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: when I get an air every time I get an airplane, 368 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: the flight attendant, they are all very nice, but they're saying, 369 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: watch your head. 370 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, look, I've been taking this head with me everywhere. 371 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: I'm not going to. 372 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Watching this head forever. 373 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: What gets me. 374 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: Are when you're at like somebody's house or something and 375 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: maybe there's an outdoor party or something and they've got 376 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: hanging plants like that. 377 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: That gets you, Like you turn around all of a 378 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: sudden you got a face. 379 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: Full of moss and you're in some hanging plant and 380 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: you're like this should be illegal, Like I'm not putting 381 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: landmines in for my short friends, Like they got. 382 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: To have some fond that would be fun though, would be. 383 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: Things for them to trip over and say, well, you're 384 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: down there, how could you not see that? 385 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: There you go? 386 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: I used to leave notes from my wife's not the 387 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: tallest person. And I used to leave a note for 388 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: on the door or something, and I didn't realize I 389 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: was leaving it over her head and she never saw 390 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: you know them, So now I just kind. 391 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: Of now you were leaving them at your eye level 392 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: of the door, and I'm good, wait, so these. 393 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Notes were at your eye level? 394 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: Now her, Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about I just 395 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: got okay, not my eye level. 396 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: But I just put it on the door. 397 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: And I say, hey, why didn't you Why didn't you 398 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: do what I asked you, or why didn't you leave 399 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: the key or whatever? 400 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: And she goes, what are you talking about it? 401 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: I left to post it on the door, and he goes, 402 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: look at it, and it's it's like a foot over 403 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: her head. 404 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 5: I never thought about showers, what I like, could you request? 405 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 5: You can't request tall people showers at hotels? 406 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 3: Right? 407 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: Not at a hotel, Like you're getting hitting the you're 408 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: getting hit in the stomach by it, and and it's, uh, 409 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 4: it sucks, even for a guy in my size, it sucks. 410 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 4: And you know, like the beds you gotta so a 411 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: lot of these guys, especially for you at UH at Florida, 412 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: most of their locker rooms have showers like you guys 413 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: would have to stand back fifteen feet to get hit 414 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: by the water. They put them they put them so 415 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: high for the players. They customize it for taller people. 416 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: And uh, and you know the beds are longer and 417 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: all that stuff. And now they fly private most of 418 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: the time, so they don't have to worry about the airplanes. 419 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: But you know, if they're going to play in the 420 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: Maui Invitational, some you know, some poor kids, He's going 421 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: He's going to be some feet tall and have a 422 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 4: middle seat on the way out to Maui. It's not 423 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 4: not the best thing. 424 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: Uh, what'd you think of? What did you make of 425 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: Duke Jay? I know you did the dickyv Invitational? 426 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Duke was there? You call the games? How's Duke look 427 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: this year? 428 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: They look very good. They're going to be different than 429 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: last year. Their freshmen are a little more freshman like 430 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: than maybe Cooper Flag and Konker Nipple and those guys. 431 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: So it may take them a little bit longer to 432 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: hit a stride like those guys did. 433 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 3: Because they won thirty five games last year and went 434 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: to the final four. 435 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: They're going to play in a tougher acc and they've 436 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: got a way tougher non conference schedule. But the thing 437 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 4: that was one Cam Boozer is the real deal. He 438 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 4: could very well be the first pick in the draft. 439 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: He's like Paalo Bankero. But one of the things that 440 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: impressed me the most, Stu is the you know, they 441 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: haven't got off to great starts, and they're two exhibitions 442 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: and in their game against Texas and it didn't bother them, 443 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 4: like in the second half they were really good, and 444 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 4: you know, so you could say, Okay, we've got to 445 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: get off the better starts. 446 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: You can't put yourself in that position. 447 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: That's fine, but you don't see many young teams that 448 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: are able to kind of flip that switch and not 449 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: let first half bother them. Uh, They've they've got a 450 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: competitive level and uh and a a next. 451 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: Play mentality that that not a lot of teams have. 452 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: Uh. 453 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 5: You mentioned Cam Boozer and that's one of Carlos Boozer's twins. 454 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 5: And when I first heard of them, were they were 455 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 5: only talked about his twins. 456 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: What happened to Cayden? Is he? Okay? Is he good? 457 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: Is Cam just that much better? Because they usually should 458 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: be about to say. 459 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: They're they're different. 460 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: So Caden is like six', four which makes him kind 461 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: of the runt of the, FAMILY i, Guess But cam 462 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: Is cam's, bigger and and So caden's a point. Guard 463 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: cam's like a hybrid four h and But cam's got 464 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: a Different he's, Different like he's the real. 465 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: Deal you. 466 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: WATCH i watched him in practice a couple of weeks, 467 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: ago AND i couldn't get over how big he, like 468 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: how big he was like his his especially his lower, 469 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: body you, know the frame of. Him and it reminded. 470 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: ME i think at this age he's actually bigger Than 471 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: Pallo banko was and. Uh and he's really skilled and 472 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: really competitive and tough and. 473 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: Uh and then he's become like in a short period of, 474 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 4: time like more of a vocal. 475 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: Leader you. Know you know how it. Is you guys 476 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: see this as much AS i. Do they're. 477 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: There they are always really talented, players really good, players 478 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: but there's a there's a level of special that certain players, 479 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: exhibit AND i think he's exhibiting. That and like he 480 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: had he didn't score in the first half Against, texas 481 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: and he had fifteen points and thirteen bounds by the 482 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: end of the. Game and you're going, okay if that's 483 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: the if that's when he doesn't play. Well he had 484 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: twenty three rebounds Against tennessee At tennessee and an exhibition 485 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: in a packed. 486 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: House it took. Me it took me five games to 487 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: get twenty three. 488 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Rebounds we're going to play a game Of jay or 489 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: nay and get you out of here because we know you're. 490 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Busy where do you go with? 491 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: Chat Like taylor has A burger place In Chapel hill for? 492 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: You where did J phillis like to go when he's 493 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: hanging out In Chapel. 494 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: Hill we went To Sutton's pharmacy yesterday for lunch, staple 495 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: which is actually really, good heavy on the, grease but 496 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: it was. 497 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: Good. 498 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah where DO i go In Chapel? HILL i used 499 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: to go to a restaurant called four Eleven WEST. 500 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: A, lot good. 501 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: TIME i really. Like and but IF i. 502 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: Could stay one, place it would not be this lovely Courtyard. 503 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: Marriott it would be The carolina in The carolina in. 504 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Good, yeah it's. 505 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: Great, yeah not in THE espn. Budget i'm lucky a 506 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: roof was in THE espn. BUDGET i was thinking it 507 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 4: was going to be some kind of tube. Tent i'd 508 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: have to manufacture outside in the parking. LOT i got 509 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: clipped for fifteen, dollars SO i didn't register my car. 510 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: Yesterday you have to use A qr code to register your, 511 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: car AND i had a ticket on my car. Outside 512 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: i'm Like, jesus it's costing me money to do. GAMES 513 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 4: i got to get a new professional. 514 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Trip how about enough with THE qr code just to 515 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: be a fucking. Ticket i'll pay you on the way. 516 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Out how that's? 517 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: That? Yeah And i'm you, know BECAUSE i live In. 518 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: Charlotte i'm driving my own, car SO i can't just you, 519 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: know lay it on the rental. 520 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: Car all, right quick game Of jay or. Nay we'll 521 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: get you out. Here we appreciate the, time J. Bill 522 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: let's go, Ahead. 523 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 6: Daylek i'm glad you mentioned. It, Jay charlotte is an underrated, 524 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 6: City jay or. 525 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: Nay Oh, Jay we've been there thirty three. Years charlotte's. 526 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: Awesome i'm FROM. LA i wanted to go back. THERE 527 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 4: i had probably a ten year pity party every time 528 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: my wife. 529 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: Would say it was a nice day In. CHARLOTTE i 530 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: go every. 531 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: Day is like this In. 532 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: La but, Yeah i'm a lifer In. 533 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: Charlotte it's. 534 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 6: Fantastic are you A Mama ricotta's? 535 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: Guy, yeah we just had that the other. NIGHT i 536 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: had some of the CREW espn crew. 537 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: Over Frank cabelli owns that place and we've been going 538 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: there for thirty three years. NOW i actually delivered that 539 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: stuff to my wife when she was having our first. 540 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Child he's just so proud that he has things in 541 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: common with. You go, Ahead Day's live In. 542 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 6: Charlotte the guy that gives unsolicited swing advice on a 543 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 6: golf Course jay or nay. 544 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: Nay, nay don't want to hear, It, like come, on, 545 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 4: MAN i can't. 546 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: Fix it right. NOW i get. 547 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: It you. 548 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: KNOW i don't Tell Jim fuerk out of. SWING i 549 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: don't Want Joe sixpack telling me how to swing. 550 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Right how about the guy who, says, hey keep your 551 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: head down on the golfer, age or it's all, tempo 552 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: it's all about. 553 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: Tempo, yeah well, Yeah stu was referring to himself. There, 554 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: yes oh. Okay he was telling somebody to keep their 555 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: head down In. Tahoe And i'm, like that's the worst 556 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: advice ever given on a golf, course like it is 557 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: on the. Range and BUT i can Give stu this. 558 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: Advice it's okay for you to clean your. 559 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: Clubs that's. 560 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: Plus thirty Years like that group need to be cleaned. 561 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Out, GOD i tell. 562 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 6: It it's time for The big ten to win a national. 563 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: Title jay or nay? 564 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: JAY i mean that Was that's been the narrative for 565 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: twenty five years. Now that won one says two thousand and, 566 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: One Michigan state won uh In indianapolis Over. Florida you 567 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: know they've been close to a bunch uh and been 568 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: to the final four a bunch and championship. Games you 569 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 4: know this could be the year Like michigan's really good 570 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: produced really. Good wouldn't shock, me but, yeah that is 571 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: kind of a monkey on their back that that would 572 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: be nice to get rid. 573 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: Of donnas hasm still had a big game in that national. 574 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 6: Championship, yes the guy who tells you just put me 575 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 6: down for a par jay or nay when you counted 576 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 6: at least eight, Shots. 577 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 3: I'm good with. 578 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: That that's as long. 579 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: As as long as he puts the score. 580 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: In yes for the. 581 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: Handicap If i'm on the green and, Regulation i'm giving 582 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: myself a par even IF i three. 583 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: Puts, yeah Like i'm probably a vanity. HANDICAP i think 584 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: the overwhelming majority of golfers. Are but what don't you 585 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: prefer that over the guys that that you, know knock 586 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: it next to the hole and then, decide you, know 587 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 4: you give it to, him and they decide they're going 588 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 4: to put and then they three jacket and put down 589 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: the number. 590 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: Just so they keep their handicap up to. 591 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 6: WIN a member, guest, well if you ever play With 592 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 6: stu J he's at like thirty feet and he's looking 593 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 6: at you like you're not going to give me, this 594 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: and it's. 595 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: Like, WELL i would give it to. 596 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: HIM i would give it to him if he's going 597 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 4: to be one of those guys that decide they're going 598 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: to walk to the other side and and walk it 599 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 4: off and get advice from their partner and all that, 600 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: stuff like you better, marry like after all, this you 601 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 4: better make. 602 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: This j just wants to get to the next. 603 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 3: Ole, yeah, like let's. Go none of us are. Pros 604 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: this is the best social. Event, yeah he just. 605 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 5: Hit his head on the golf, cart like damn it again. 606 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 6: The Last jay Or, Nay This duke team isn't, hateable 607 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: but college basketball is better When duke is. 608 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: Hateable jay or, Nay. 609 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: I'll GO j on that Like i'm okay with The 610 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: duke D, Yeah i've been part of. IT i don't understand, 611 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: it but But i'm okay with. 612 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: It LIKE i, THINK i don't. 613 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: Know it's one of those DOCUMENTARIES i can't remember which 614 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: one Where Ken, johng who the comedian that went To, 615 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: duke was talking about The duke ate and he, says he, says, 616 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: fine like what do you want us to? 617 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: Do SAY i hate. 618 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: WHAT i have become like you know it kind of 619 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 4: you kind of embraced, It LIKE i don't THINK i 620 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: was particularly. 621 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: HATEABLE i, Mean I'm i'm actually popular here In Chapel. 622 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: Hill they like me and uh AND i think IT'S 623 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: i think they like me because they THINK i sucked 624 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 4: as a player AND i was LIKE i was, MORE 625 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: i wasn't worth AND i was probably responsible for More 626 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: carolina wins Over duke Than Michael jordan. 627 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: Was Have Tommy amaker walking there and see what they 628 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: would hate him. 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