WEBVTT - It’s a good thing I don’t drive a compact (S6 E15 “A Vineyard Valentine”)

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in.

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<v Speaker 2>I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>one eleven productions. iHeartMedia, iHeart podcast, iHeart dish soap. iHeart

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things. You know, iheart's getting into all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of durs. Anyway, we are gonna break down episode fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Season six eight, Vineyard Vallance. I have a controversial take,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am joined by my controversial yet intrepid crew

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<v Speaker 1>led by terror Suit Susanne French, Amy Sugarman. Welcome, ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your controversial take?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you want me to tell you now?

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<v Speaker 1>I too well, So we have a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you this. Half the episode I loved

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<v Speaker 3>and half the episode I thought was stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I feel like it's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the We'll get into it, but first, I

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<v Speaker 3>have not gotten your tickets. I am all in live.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, it is. We are getting close to sold out.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some tickets left. There's tickets for the stream.

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<v Speaker 3>If you cannot be in La, obviously get your tickets

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<v Speaker 3>at the stream. If you can be in LA. I

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<v Speaker 3>really I'm actually excited about this. Scott's going to be there,

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<v Speaker 3>We have all those amazing cast members that are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be there, and it's very intimate venue, so like

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing a full Q and A and you're really

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the opportunity to ask all those people questions.

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<v Speaker 3>But it will be snowing. We have Doci's Market, We

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<v Speaker 3>have all the things, and we just added like, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand tickets are expensive, right, and I want people

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like they're getting a lot of value for

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<v Speaker 3>that money. We have in the back lot, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>on the studio lot, like it's super cool. Where the

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<v Speaker 3>theater is a Luke's Diner food truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, I was hoping that was going to come

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<v Speaker 1>through a Luke's Diner food truck. And who's panning that truck?

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<v Speaker 3>You will see when you're there, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>And we have a Luke's Diner coffee cart in the venue.

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<v Speaker 3>So like for people listening, like you get a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of bang for your buck, right, Like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's expensive, but you're getting the show, you're getting dinner,

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<v Speaker 3>you're getting you know. We obviously have Dosi's Market that

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<v Speaker 3>has concessions for sale, but like everybody gets, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some real cool perks with their ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>A tad pricey, but there's a reason for that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to gouge people's amy Amy can provide.

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted to do it at this venue, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very it's a very cool place to see

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<v Speaker 3>a show, and it's very intimate, so we can only

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<v Speaker 3>have a certain number of people in there, which obviously

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<v Speaker 3>makes ticket prices higher. So we've done you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, you get you know, your coffee beverages,

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<v Speaker 3>you get dinner after the show from the Luke's Diner

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<v Speaker 3>food truck. Like we're doing everything we can. We really

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<v Speaker 3>want to make it people have an amazing experience and write,

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<v Speaker 3>but a real Gilmore evening.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to offset the cost of what it's costing

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<v Speaker 1>us to rent the venue and hire the workers and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. That we're Yeah, we're not as

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<v Speaker 1>strike done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not we're not We're not trying to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to break even here. We're not to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you some great entertainment and some great guests.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it's the old it's the old Jay Leno studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, old Johnny Carson's Jay Leno. It's so it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of history behind it. We're really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'll say is if you can travel, it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm traveling down from San Francisco, Like it's this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be really, really cool. So Scott, you better

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<v Speaker 3>be awesome too, because you've got to carry the whole show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know that's very hard for me, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>practicing a great deal. I'm doing my Walter Cronkite imitations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm brushing up on those.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that, no, but it is very intimate,

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<v Speaker 3>so I do want people to know, like it's it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be up close and personal with these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just rip the roof off.

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<v Speaker 3>That snow is expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Is expensive little pieces of paper, right.

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<v Speaker 4>The most expensive part.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of well, look, we're gonna bring you a

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<v Speaker 1>great show, great guests. We're gonna have a blast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to meet everybody in the meet and

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<v Speaker 1>greets and that it's just gonna be We're real. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really really pumped for this, So it's it's we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna We're going to give you one hundred and ten percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So the easiest way to get tickets to the in

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<v Speaker 4>person event is if you can go to our Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>On our page, there's a little link. It'll take you

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<v Speaker 4>to a link tree and you can click in person

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<v Speaker 4>tickets and that'll take you to the exact link. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's the best way you can buy tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good deal, good? I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So, okay, guys, maybe we should synopsize first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to synopsize.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>This is season six, episode fifteen, a Vineyard Valentine, and

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<v Speaker 5>it aired appropriately enough on February fourteenth, two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a couple's weekend with Luke and Lorelei Logan in

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<v Speaker 5>Martha's vineyard, but Luke doesn't seem too keen on hanging

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<v Speaker 5>out with Logan. The weekend is then ruined when Mitcham

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<v Speaker 5>shows up demanding Logan to leave right away and tells

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<v Speaker 5>him he is moving to London right after graduation.

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<v Speaker 3>Was I the only one that thought half the episode

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome and half was really not great?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's all this. The first half was all this

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<v Speaker 1>setup and getting there, and we're getting out of Star's

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<v Speaker 1>Hollow and getting out of our comfort zone and going

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<v Speaker 1>to the vineyard. I was looking forward to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Yay, let's go on a trip. But right

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat, Luke just seemed a little that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you It's like the impression that I got from both, well,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from Luke, is that he was just It's like, dude, really, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a grown man. Chill stop with the covetching about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And she slams him in the bedroom about it. He

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<v Speaker 1>deserved that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was like a different character.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. He was like this very cagey, strange guy

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't want to mix with anybody or do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who the hell would want to marry that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what was bothering me. He was so

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<v Speaker 3>likely who is that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Once Logan gave him the gift, it all switched. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I just have never seen Luke so weak, drawn, so

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<v Speaker 1>weak as a chara annoying and annoying and really weakened

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Logan when Logan figured out his gift

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<v Speaker 1>problem and Luke said, well, I mean, he just seems

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<v Speaker 1>so and he just forgot here's a word I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to use, is impotent. He just seemed impotent as a man.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wouldn't have forgotten the gift. Like nor he

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have He would never not have the gift.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that it wasn't exactly Valentine's Day yet, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I sort of was giving him a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a pass for that, but like he also would

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<v Speaker 3>never be such a rude guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Also, going back to the gift, Laurel I's reaction

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<v Speaker 4>made it seem like she's never received a Valentine's Day gift.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I sick it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so weird. He gives her gifts all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I just thought it was odd. It's funny, Amy,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you were gonna say the weird part, or

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<v Speaker 4>the part that you felt was off, was that they

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<v Speaker 4>were not on their sets.

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<v Speaker 3>Like clearly this was a I mean that they were

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<v Speaker 3>in Malibu.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bother but weirdly enough, like for some reason, whenever

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<v Speaker 4>shows do that and they go like on location or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like down the street, it bothers me. Weird

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<v Speaker 4>this one didn't bother me for some reason. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's because we always hear that, like the Gilmore's go

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<v Speaker 4>to Martha's vineyard, and like he kind of created this

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't know, I something in my head that

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<v Speaker 4>like this is where they always go. So for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it just felt like normal. But I made this place

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<v Speaker 4>up in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>And part of the house tracked for me where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the house would be like. The house was

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<v Speaker 3>not nearly fancy enough though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know that was I believe that was

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Newton John's house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, you know what. That's sort of ringing

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<v Speaker 3>a bell for me.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Malibu, Like, it definitely was Mayeah.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all. The one thing I don't like about

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<v Speaker 3>Gilmour girls, and I don't know if it's a money thing,

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<v Speaker 3>when they do those sort of establishing shots that are

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<v Speaker 3>like we got these from by establishing shots dot com

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<v Speaker 3>that weird seagull and it was so like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just felt like Malibu. I was like we

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, maybe it's because we're all from LA,

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<v Speaker 3>like we all live in La. It was so Malibui, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I don't think it fooled anybody because there's

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<v Speaker 5>leaves on the trees, Like there was nothing about it

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<v Speaker 5>that looked like New England.

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<v Speaker 3>And isn't Martha's vineyard. You're like sea level, there's not

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<v Speaker 3>like tall tall.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, yeah, there's no mountain behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, happening. And then at the beginning, the house just

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like is this like an airban be fairly cheap

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<v Speaker 3>house in Malibu, Like it wasn't mansionny, It wasn't what

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<v Speaker 3>the Huntsburgers would have like. It was so like the

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<v Speaker 3>decor was okay, but again it was not up to

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<v Speaker 3>the level. And so I just was like, what's happened? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and Luke was acting like a fool.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like a whole alternate universe Gilmore Girls, Like

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<v Speaker 5>it just was really like Luke was weird. Rory was

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<v Speaker 5>really weird. I don't know what her deal was. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. I didn't understand the whole thing with Luke

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<v Speaker 5>not having the right clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like is the weather.

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<v Speaker 5>Than the weather in Connecticut, Like he just would have

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<v Speaker 5>to bring what.

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<v Speaker 3>He would wear at home? Why should come on?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like he came from Malibu to like the East

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<v Speaker 4>coast right, like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Would just wear he would have been wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the good laugh for me was the Martha's Vineyard sweats.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, at least that made me chuckle because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what.

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<v Speaker 5>But he like he brings a camp stove, but he

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't bring a jacket like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so first of all, right, why would he

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<v Speaker 3>bring any of that nonsense? It was so insane. He

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<v Speaker 3>was acting cuckoo.

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<v Speaker 6>Who.

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<v Speaker 3>I also don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Believe that Luke never had lobster before.

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<v Speaker 1>I refuse to believe that. It's hard to that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to swallow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And also I'm sorry, but Rory went from being

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<v Speaker 3>Rory to Rachel Ray in like five seconds flat.

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<v Speaker 4>That girl has never cut anything, Like she use a

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<v Speaker 4>microwave and throws like pizza in the oven like that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>And when she was doing the tour, she was like

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<v Speaker 5>a little girl playing house. She's like, don't use you

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<v Speaker 5>know only one person can use the shower and also

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<v Speaker 5>open the window like she just was like marrying the house,

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<v Speaker 5>which flat.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. We have done enough of our research to

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<v Speaker 3>know that the Huntsburgers are almost billionaires, right right, They

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<v Speaker 3>definitely do not have a house in Martha's Vineyard where

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<v Speaker 3>only one person can shower at a time. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, no way, okay, so fix them like the

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<v Speaker 5>a even like just let stuff like that go exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it was so like, this does not track.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like, like I said, it, fine, then make

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<v Speaker 3>it an airbnb.

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<v Speaker 4>That or say they just bought it and they're flipping

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<v Speaker 4>it like something like but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not gonna work because we know this is like

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<v Speaker 3>this is their like halatial Martha's Vineyard estate and I

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<v Speaker 3>have never been to Martha's Vineyard, but I have enough

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge in the Worldwide Web to know that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>the Huntsburgers would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Like where's like what I think that house fit into

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<v Speaker 1>the budget? The episode budget? Quite yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, I mean it's pretty cool that

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<v Speaker 3>it was a living in John's house, but like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, it was either her house or her house was

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<v Speaker 1>next door or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just so Malibu that's pretty budget. Went like literally,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, can we just go to Howdies and

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<v Speaker 3>get a burrito? Because literally we're in Malibu? Like it

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<v Speaker 3>was just so why didn't they just make it Malibu.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anyway. That really took me out. And

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<v Speaker 3>also like everybody, you're right, Suzanne was just weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought Logan was consistent. His character always seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be very consistent. Now he he he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the entertainment part for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Zere was probably like why is everybody acting crazy? He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna be me what.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed him. He was his charming self, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Even at the basketball he was normal. And Lucas I

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<v Speaker 3>think so weird and who suddenly snap snaps for a

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<v Speaker 3>gym person to give them a massage?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was just like so weird. It was so strange.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, like Laura, I will say I did laugh at

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<v Speaker 4>Laura I and Rory going to the gym, but like

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<v Speaker 4>literally just like not knowing what to do it. That

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<v Speaker 4>was a little like on point with the two of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, the one thing I will say, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know we're going out of order, but like this episode

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<v Speaker 3>was so weird, we just have to you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>the gym guy's like can I work in? I I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have known what that meant either, except I just

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<v Speaker 3>listened to Arnold Schwarzenegger on SmartLess and totally learned because

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold will say like, can I work in? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, Okay, now I know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Arnold totally explained it. Scott Nos, Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Nos, Yeah, I tried to work in yesterday. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>let him, just gave him a luck get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So let's let's go back. So we started the episode,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was weird from the start. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>in this we must have had a hiatus, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>the recap was extraordinarily long, which I get if I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't watching how we're watching every week, right, But it

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<v Speaker 3>must have been. When did this air February fourteenth? Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have a lot of episodes in January, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, But the recap was just so.

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<v Speaker 4>It also went back a little bit, like really back

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<v Speaker 4>towards older episodes in the season, like it was at

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<v Speaker 4>last week's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Suki made me laugh and she said, Zuki, you mean sucky,

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<v Speaker 3>But I just don't think she's going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>struggling that hard over the Valentine's menus. I liked louralized

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<v Speaker 3>curls in the rap dress right out the gate. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, what do you guys think of just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of the inn and then the Zydago mess and

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was there were just you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>your obviously your traditional Gilmore Girls episode where we're in

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<v Speaker 1>stars Hollow and we get to see everybody in town.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw Luke, Laureli, Rory and Logan and that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, except for the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitcham came in and then we get a little suki

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning and there's some zydeco stuff, which was like, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that just shows how off this episode was.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the it was so incongruous with the and it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe a funny bit, yeah, but we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to see anybody else in this episode, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been good four.

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<v Speaker 1>Characters carrying the whole show. Yeah, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we pulled it.

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<v Speaker 3>Off because you weren't yourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like that bit with the band actually

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<v Speaker 4>could have worked in a different episode. Like I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was kind of funny. I just feel like it

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<v Speaker 4>it had nothing to do with this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, other than I guess she's you know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>heartfelt when she sort of is realizing, like June third

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<v Speaker 3>is not happening, right, So that was sort of okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, look I giggled when she said led Zep

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<v Speaker 3>again because I was like, I love those yacht rocky

0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, cover bands, Super Diamond, all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, oh, go for led Zep again.

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<v Speaker 3>But otherwise it was sort of just like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>A yeah, A little U just joined it at a

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<v Speaker 1>character uh out of its elements in Martha's vineyard, which

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<v Speaker 1>was not depicted well right, and just like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very strained Even having said all that, I was

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<v Speaker 1>still entertained because we have Logan to keep us afloat.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it got good in the second half, So okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get We'll get to that. So then we get

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<v Speaker 3>the setup right, So we're in the uh, we're in

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<v Speaker 3>the apartment and in Logan's apartment. Now the bed felt

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<v Speaker 3>like it was in the living room for me, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's just a very large bedroom. Did anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little thrown off by the bed being

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<v Speaker 3>with the couch, and I was like, am I.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't quite get it. Either it feels like

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<v Speaker 5>it's just one giant open room. Maybe it's a loft,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Yeah, maybe anyway, you know, and look,

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<v Speaker 5>Logan's gonna be up at eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was still sort of funny. The whole world's up,

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<v Speaker 3>YadA YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was really cute when he said bring

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<v Speaker 3>your mother and the guy. Now he would have known

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<v Speaker 3>his name, but otherwise it was cute.

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<v Speaker 5>It was nice of him to think of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and yeah, that was all cute. What was Ducididies again?

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<v Speaker 1>A Greek philosopher.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So then we sort of have a brief visit

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<v Speaker 3>to the paper and she's like pretty much got her

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<v Speaker 3>leave together at the paper, right like, feeling like that's

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<v Speaker 3>going well. And then we sort of tea up, like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>take the weekend off, it's been We.

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<v Speaker 1>See her interpersonal skills with her staff. Yes, that she's

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<v Speaker 1>a good leader and that she listens and she cares

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<v Speaker 1>about people.

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<v Speaker 3>Empowers them and the whole thing right like that was

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<v Speaker 3>all good. My next takeaway was just I am a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of low Rise jeans. I love the.

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<v Speaker 7>Low Rise Jens and this Loralai really wears low Rise jeans,

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<v Speaker 7>so that really stood out from and then so Rory

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<v Speaker 7>calls and, you know, kind of says to Lurlai, come,

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<v Speaker 7>this was Logan's idea, and let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it just took too long to get there,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we should have just like going to the beach

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<v Speaker 4>how or Martha's vineyar should have been like the sub

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<v Speaker 4>should have been one scene, Like that's the same point.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what it is. It was just two.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was like, let's see one, two, three,

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 4>it's like four scenes before we even got to Martha's vineyard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, I want to talk about it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to talking about it. We have that moment

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought was important where she says it's the

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<v Speaker 3>last nail in the June third coffin. So I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, But but Luke and Laureley seemed to be

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<v Speaker 3>getting along great, Like yeah, you know, he was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a curmudgeon about it, but otherwise, like they seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be getting along. I'm taking the truck.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's one of those things when you tell

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<v Speaker 4>someone like for her, it's she told people a date,

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<v Speaker 4>especially her mom, and that date sticks with people because now,

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<v Speaker 4>like if it doesn't happen. I think it's more of

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<v Speaker 4>she's okay with Luke and she's okay with the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she's worried about what other people think now,

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<v Speaker 4>because like remember when Suki was like what did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it not happening? And then like it wasn't me,

0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 4>it was because of April. So I think it's more

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<v Speaker 4>of how people. She's worried about how people think about

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<v Speaker 4>her more than shitting married.

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<v Speaker 3>The one that suggested moving the wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but not because she wanted to though, yeah.

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 3>She thought it was the right thing to do, but still.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he didn't disagree. He agreed with her to

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<v Speaker 4>move it.

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<v Speaker 3>So few questions for Scott. Did you feel that the

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<v Speaker 3>luggage had stuff in it? Or were you just caring

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<v Speaker 3>very lightweight to so I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>selling it very well. Luggage I accently do up until

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<v Speaker 1>the point. There was an accident when I I put

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<v Speaker 1>the big bag down before loading it into the truck

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>at Lorelei's house and it it almost toppled over and

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it looked very light, So I thought, oh, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>You nailed it on the stairs and going out of

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 3>the house, I really thought, oh wow, those are some

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 3>heavy suitcases. And then all of a sudden, I was

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<v Speaker 3>like like an envelope. My next two questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Gravity was my enemy in that scene.

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<v Speaker 3>The next question for Scott, are there not seat belts

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<v Speaker 3>in that truck?

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<v Speaker 1>Die? I believe there are.

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<v Speaker 3>Properly okay lap belts. I did not see a restraint.

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't I actually don't recall lap belts. I think

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>it was just such a vined truck. It didn't have anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So sketchy driving to Martha's vineyard in the winter with

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<v Speaker 3>no seat belts, just slashing all around that bench seat.

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<v Speaker 1>We roll man.

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<v Speaker 3>My next topic for everybody though, Even though Luke was

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<v Speaker 3>being super curmudgeony, I thought it was okay for him

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 3>to say, where do we stand with this guy? Oh,

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 3>we've called a truce. That part didn't bother me. That

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 3>needed to be acknowledged. I will agree with you, Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like staying at other people's houses either. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not fun, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I don't mind it. I mean, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice house.

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<v Speaker 4>Over a hotel, would you rather stay a hotel? Or

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<v Speaker 4>someone's house my own.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather stay at somebody's house if it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really would. No, I've always had good experiences with that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in ski country, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you are they there renting a house is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know they're there and they're hosting you, and

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 1>it's and it's fun. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, you have to be so on your best behavior.

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.679
<v Speaker 3>You can't just cloud around and watch TV. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to make the bed. You guys need to google Sebastian

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Man of Scalco. That can be bit on staying at

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<v Speaker 3>other people's houses, as it sums it up perfectly, just

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 3>like Rory when she's like, oh you can't take a

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 3>share at the same time like he does this a

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>whole bit about like this toilet doesn't really work, so

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 3>jiggle a handle.

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>And you're just like, oh see, that's I think that's

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the problem. I think what you pointed out earlier is

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a palatial enough to stay for them to

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<v Speaker 1>be behaving that way once they got inside the house

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<v Speaker 1>that would have sold that same behavior in some kind

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of gorgeous mansion that was obviously worth you know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million dollars that would have tracked, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It says something, Am I right? He says something at

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been grandma's house. It has its kinks something. But

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 3>I still was like, hey, the Huntsburgers, no way, that

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 3>thing would have eight showers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that all they would have remodeled exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have had beautiful marble, white marble.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they were trying to make it seem like

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<v Speaker 5>this is the cun Tree getaway cabin, you know, whack shack.

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's his exact Actually, Amy, his exact line was,

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 4>it's a grandma, so it's got its kinks. It's a grandma.

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 4>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm glad they acknowledge it and don't act

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>like at least somehow, but I still was like, no way,

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>these people are a millionaires.

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<v Speaker 5>And the way they described it, like Rory talks about

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 5>how the dining room seats twenty, but like that doesn't

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 5>correlate with what we saw visually. That did not look

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 5>like a place that has a dining room that seats twenty.

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 3>We saw five hundred dollars night Airbnb. Yeah, okay, okay, well,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 3>and then now we get to where I sort of

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, Luke, you know, calling him snotty and

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 3>saying that he oh did you see how Logan was

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>so rude? He corrected Rory about the gym.

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, what, Yeah, that was weird stuff up,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I wanted to just smack them.

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 3>And like why would they be scared to leave their room?

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 4>It was so odd.

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was where I was like, oh my god,

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I am not this is.

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 4>If it was to Luke that Luke doesn't like Logan,

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 4>then okay, I feel like there was another way of

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 4>doing it. But it just felt like out of character.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he like needs a signal the next morning

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 5>to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you tell him I was hiding? I mean, it's

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so forced, everything so forced, and.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Luke's a stud, right, so he's not going to be

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 3>a weirdo. Like he's gonna own that thing. He's going

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 3>to be in the kitchen cooking up the meal. Like

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 3>he's literally just not going to be such a weirdo.

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>I wrote, why is Luke so weird?

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>That's maybe maybe it's you take him out of the diner,

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you take him out of that town, you put that

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>behavior in someplace else and it's glaring. Maybe that's the reason.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Is it Camper, Right, he's not going to be bothered

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 3>by the waves or stand the raccoon, Like, I mean,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 3>we're beating a dead horse, right, Like Luke was a weirdo.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 3>We have to just acknowledge that. Whatever.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>That's the one episode that I would erase. If you

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>were to say, you know, take your best episode and

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>take your worst episode and just get them out so

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>we can average in, you know, that would be for me.

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd say deep six to that episode.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 3>I love it. I think things took a turn once

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>they're having the dinner, right, But okay, first let's get

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to a couple of things. Rory coming down the steps

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>in Malibu and her cute blue coat. She did have

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>a cute cloth. Then they're all going to the gym.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Gym.

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>They're all going to the gym. We've acknowledged the gym

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 3>was weird. Although I did enjoy his Luke's Martha's beenyard thing.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>This is where I wrote this episode isn't good. So

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 3>at this point I'm sort of like, really like, this

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 3>is not good and we're just wasting time, right, Like

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 3>the gym was just like filling airtime to me.

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we got the gym twice, right, not just once.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Didn't they go back to it?

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>No, they were there. It just felt like that because

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 3>first they were in the gym, then we went to

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>the basketball, then we.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Went But here's the thing, what an opportunity to to

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>lampoon Martha's vineyard.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Or to make it awesome either way either way?

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 6>Right?

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>And then they chose to go into a.

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Gym with right, which was like clearly in LA where

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>they put up stickers that said Martha's Vineyard gym or

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 3>something else.

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 5>Right, right, And Rory says, Oh, we like to go

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 5>to the gym when we're here. But then you see

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 5>her there and she doesn't understand anything.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 3>That's happening exactly. Obviously she doesn't go.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 5>To the jim while we're there.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 4>I actually have a question.

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 5>It makes sense, Scott.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 4>I have a questioned. The show is in season We

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 4>in season five, yeah, five, six?

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Sorry six?

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 4>So at this point the show is very successful, has

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>made a lot of money. Why wouldn't they just like

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 4>send you guys on location, because like other networks have

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>done it, where like ABC would send all their tgifs

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 4>to Disney World, like they would spend the money.

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, you've got that real characters in the episode.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Because it's CW, the budgets aren't as big, the profit

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't as big, the revenue is in as big.

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, I think they spent the money on oliving in

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 3>John's House like it was already expensive.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Taking the budgets on these shows was not what you

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>know a friend's budget is or or you know.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Man, Modern Family had their money.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Right if you're if your show, if you have a

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>hit show on a major network ABCNBCCBS, Fox, now I

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>guess we joined the big that's the Big Four, then

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you you've got some money to burn and you're making

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>large dollars on at that time the DVD side and all,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, all kinds of revenue streams coming in. But

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>on the CW with Gilmour, even though it was a

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>hit show, it didn't have the it didn't have those

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>size the side.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I can give you a little a little fun fact

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>if you all want it. So you know the Ryan

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Murphy show nine to one one, that's on Fox. It's Foxes,

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 3>that's right, just went it's Fox's biggest hit. Right now,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>they're all kind of owned by the same people, so whatever,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 3>But it's Fox's biggest hit, but the show is so

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 3>expensive that Fox couldn't afford it anymore. And that's why

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>nine to one one is now going to be on ABC.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>So you think about that because that show is so

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>expensive to do with the stunts, and.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, that's a great example. I didn't think about that.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can afford it. Right. This is why

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>hit shows get canceled, and nobody can understand. The audience

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is like, why did you cancel? It was the number one,

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it was huge hit and all because it's too expensive

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to produce profit margin and as it as it, you know,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>labor costs and casts want more salary. Then it just

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>gets more expensive every every year, but the revenue streams

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>remain the same or go down or dwindle.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 3>So it's an interesting thing though, because I would have

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>just kept you all in Stars Hollow. But whatever, for

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>whatever reason they wanted you to.

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Malbot, don't get out of the boat.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Right right stage. Just do this same kind of concept.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I would have enjoyed if Rory and Logan decided to

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>come home to Stars Hollow for the weekend, we could

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 3>have had the same sort of episode, or or a

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Loreleizes House with Luke there and they're kind of having that.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess the thing here is when it gets good

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 3>is when Mitcham comes in. But we'll get to that.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Valentine's Day in stars Hollow would have been

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>amazing with Babette and and.

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Still could have had Mitcham come blaring in. Right if

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Mitchen went all the way from wherever he lives to

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Martha's vineyard. He could have gone from wherever he lives

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 3>to stars Hollow and just knocked on the Gilmore door.

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I imagine how much more disturbing and shocking if he

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>came into that very placid environment and blew up like that.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 3>That would have been amazing.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then reacted like I don't think he's happier.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, right exactly. It could have been so good.

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>And then he was like a volcano.

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thought he was gonna head, was gonna blow exactly.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 5>It would have been so that would be a.

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Right well back in the world we're in then now

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>we talked about this very reluctantly, and Rory's cooking, which

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>was weird, like she doesn't know how to cook. She's

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>not gonna suddenly take it up when she goes to

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Martha's vineyard. Nope, I get the GISTs we're supposed to get,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>like they she knows where everything is and they's such

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 3>a happy couple and they're going on their trip to

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Asia so that it's more disruptive when mitchem whatever. So

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 3>then we go outside and Logan says, I'm going to

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>do the gift at dinner, and Luke's like, what murder

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Like he's never heard of a Valentine's President before. My

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>problem here.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Is stupid wardrobe.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 3>The tennis bracelet. Let me tell you how much a

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>tennis bracelet is not cheap, minimum five grand, probably maybe

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 3>thirty five hundred, right, So they were clearly a set.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 3>So he's got this necklace. That necklace would have been

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>so expensive and just not the kind of thing that

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Luke would have.

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>And why didn't she suss that out? And that's what

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was gonna send when she was holding it,

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>like I thought so too, Ogan gave this to you

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>because it looks exactly like the tennis bracelet. It came

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>in a set.

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Her reaction was like, in all these years, she has

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 4>never received a gift from Luke. That's how our reaction was. Well,

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 4>she has as I know she has, but her reaction

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh my, oh my god.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I have never seen such a beloved couple ever portrayed

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in such a bad light on TV.

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>It was so weird.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It was just like.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Like, well le meshing and then I had such a

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 3>flag on the way Rory was doing the tomatoes. Nobody

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>puts tomatoes slice like that in their salad. She was

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>cutting them like they were for a hamburger or sandwich.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I was just getting so irritated.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 6>I was.

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like it was at that point when we started

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 4>just picking apart.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>It was, but it does. It does that happens. It's snowballs.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>If something is a little oft and then it just

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>starts snowballing. Then you just it's you.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>And now you're now you're Logan's best friend because he

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 3>gave you a necklace. Like that's sort of a D

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>move too, Like, oh, I only like this rich guy

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 3>because he saved my ass. Right, Yeah.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I was just like how to destroy a character one

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 1>on one?

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 3>And Rory so is is the word insipid? She's so

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>like these could be the ones like I'm sorry, what

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 3>about your whole Christian amanpour career? You're the head of

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 3>the Yale paper. These could be the ones.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 5>Well, and Luke and Lory were engaged, so clearly it's

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 5>not Luke could be the one, like Luke is the one.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 5>They're engaged to be married.

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I just don't understand.

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>We don't understand.

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I ever ripped apart.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 3>We had one other one we didn't like, but this

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 3>one's definitely going. And then like they're clapping for her,

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Celery cutting, like what's happening.

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.760
<v Speaker 5>Well, did you notice that Luke after all that about

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 5>the lobsters, Luke is the only one that had any

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 5>lobster pieces on his plate, Like Logan had like one

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 5>little piece, Rory had one little piece. It's like they

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 5>make this big deal about making the lobster and the

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 5>no one it.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 3>And then also like they have to add in like, yeah,

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 3>we went to the same shop so we could bod

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>these together, like give it get the next.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they had to come up with the cover.

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's just pause for a second. Let's each of us

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>state something positive about the episode. Ready, go, Tara, go.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 3>The end until this.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 4>Point the end to end credits, No, no, not until

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 4>this point.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Only Zukree is all I can and.

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<v Speaker 1>Do Zoree, Susan, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing in this episode that redeems it for

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<v Speaker 5>me is Luke saying I love you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know I love you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was awing feature of this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts to take a turn now, right, It starts

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<v Speaker 3>to get better now because he sort of acknowledges I've

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<v Speaker 3>been preoccupied, you know, I love you. We can have

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<v Speaker 3>lobster at our wedding. No, now it's taking a turn

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<v Speaker 3>right where they're sort of getting back to themselves. She

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<v Speaker 3>loves the necklace. Then they wake up the next morning

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 3>they slept like angels. The breakfast Santa blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's starting to get Now, I'm starting to feel like

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<v Speaker 3>more comfortable. Okay, I know where I am right, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm in Gilmore Girls, and it's like the the

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<v Speaker 3>Emilio Estevez reference. I'm like, okay, now I'm starting to

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 3>like this. They think they're going to elope really get

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<v Speaker 3>in somewhere and incomes bit Chum and that Now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>now cooking. I was like, now I'm now I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like forty one minutes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, But mitcham as unhinged as he is

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<v Speaker 8>it was Now I loved it, right, Mitcham is yelling

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<v Speaker 8>at Logan.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitcham's so awful, he's so embarrassing, he's so inappropriate, and

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the face acting ten out of ten because Rory's watching

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 3>lorealized face Luke everybody. Now I'm like, now this is good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of times we hear Logan say

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<v Speaker 4>how far his dad is on him, but we we've

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<v Speaker 4>only seen it like maybe once, But I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is where we really see it, like you're gonna do this,

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna follow in my footsteps. End of discussion. You're

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<v Speaker 4>getting on that plane like we finally saw it instead

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<v Speaker 4>of hearing about it well, And we.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to see Luke say you need any help there,

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 3>which meant you okay, buddy, like I got it, and

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 3>then Loral says no one understands, like I understand, and

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 3>we're having this moment where I'm like they're all bonding,

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>and then he's very sweet with Rory like when are

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 3>you leaving? And he's like, let's just not think about it.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 3>It's only February like all that. Suddenly, I literally don't

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 3>know how far into the episode we were, but now

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, now I like this.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you had to feel for Logan. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how you feel about him as a character,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you had to feel for him in that moment.

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>And Greg Henry, who plays Mitcham, pulls that off because

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>that could have been over the top or too Carney

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 3>or too he pulled that off, like he comes in

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>like that Dad would yelling and raising his voice and

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 3>talking down and who are you? And da da da

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<v Speaker 3>and still like well they stay, but you're out of here,

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, like and you He really pulls that off

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 3>that character.

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 5>That scene where the two of them are just screaming

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 5>over each other was really well done.

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The faces on the other three it's like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And I liked that they didn't step in because that

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>would have been not okay.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Here's a technical aspect of that. Greg and Matt knew

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<v Speaker 1>going in that they weren't going to cover the scene.

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Means they weren't going to do cover close ups or

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>coverage either side of that argument. So the director was

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it Dan Palatine Dance. So Dan said, look, this is

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>just going to be a two shot. You'll both be

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in profiles to go ahead and overlap each other's dialogue,

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>because when you do coverage, they really discourage you from

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>overlapping dialogue. They want to interesting, so then it kind

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of comes off stilted a little bit, but the editors

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes want that space to cut the scene right. And luckily,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>luckily those guys got a free pass to be great,

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, and no considerations for editing or no considerations

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for coverage. They could just go, you know, full speed overlap,

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>let's go, let's create a great, great scene like you

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 1>would see in the theater.

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, it feels like Dan Palladino's just showed up, like

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he just started. Maybe at the Valentine's Dinner scene. I

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 3>feel like he wasn't directing it leading up to that

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 3>because it was so bizarre. But now it's like whoa.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And then I think it thrives from there. When we

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 3>go back to the diner. It felt good, and Caesar

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 3>is sort of like, wait, I was to tell you something,

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>what was that? And then you sort of get the

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 3>balloon popped when he brings up April, because suddenly Lorelei

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 3>isn't a part of it again. And I wanted so

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>badly for Luke to say, well, no, why don't you

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 3>come why don't you come. I thought it was weird

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 3>that she says the bike's at my place.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it. It almost sounded place. It almost sounded like

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a breakup. It was. It was yeah again, it was

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>just it was actually didn't think.

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.720
<v Speaker 3>That the bike's at my place. It's their place.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 4>It's It's funny though, because now that you say it,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 4>I think about it. But when I was watching it,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 4>I was just like, well, that's laurelized, Like in my head, yeah, there, he.

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Just paid, But yeah, why are they acting like they're

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>breaking up and it's her place and he's got to

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>come get his stuff out of there.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.720
<v Speaker 3>She's gonna walk home. Like even though it was still good,

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 3>now it was good strange instead of like, what showing

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 3>my strange strength.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the ending was just really disappointing for me because

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 5>you felt like when they had that moment at that

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 5>Martha's vineyard house and he was like, oh, you know,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry I didn't that's just how I am. You

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 5>kind of felt like, Okay, now he's aware of what

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.760
<v Speaker 5>laurelized perspective is, and now he's going to be better

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 5>about letting her. When I get back to the diner,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 5>and it just goes right back to what it was.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 5>It's like, Okay, Laurela I by and I was so disappointed.

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, okay, I guess we didn't make any progress here.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then we come so Laura I

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 3>walks home. I did like the flower on the back

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>of her jacket, and we play the messages, which I

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 3>thought was an effective way of telling this part of

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the story. My flag is, why would it just be

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Larelli's picture in the paper that was so weird everyone else?

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Why would it Why would Emily not put a picture

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 3>of Luke and Larelai?

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think that says a lot about

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>how she feels about.

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Luke and how would she have a picture of Luke.

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a diss I mean, I don't know.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 4>I think it's at the end of the day, it's

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 4>all about her daughter and her daughter's getting married because

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be Emily's day, you know. It's yeah,

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 4>this is more of an event for Emily than than

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 4>it is Laura Lai and Lukes. So I think she

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 4>just that's how she took it, like because it's her

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 4>status and d A R and all that stuff.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know that she would have had a

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 5>reason to have a picture of Luke though.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Did you think it was at the birthday party or

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 3>at the re wedding, sorry, the re wedding.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 4>She could have asked for one, she could have exactly,

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 4>but then she.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 3>Was then Laura I would have known what she was doing,

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>and she would have had to tell her the date

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 3>was postponed. Yeah, Luke or everybody was hot?

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>All right? So I think, uh, we are going to

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>wrap up this delightful episode.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>So now what do we raid it?

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Going to it?

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Her favorite lines really from it?

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 4>I had one I actually chuckled at. It was a

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 4>the school paper and it's when they were saying us

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 4>and them, and then Rory was like what are they

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 4>put on the paper? And He's like s and m

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah. I actually I had laugh at that.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>A highly unlikely mistake that a yeah, reach HIV, what

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>are you giving this? And what is your measure?

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, my measuring measuring stick is going to be lobsters

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to give it. I'm going to give

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 4>it five lobsters.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of lobster, Suzanne, what is.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna I'm gonna give this. I thought that there

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 5>was some of the banter was good. So I'm going

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 5>to also give this five giant knives.

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving it six. So I thought I hated it

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>the most Smarta's vineyards or awkwardly sliced tomatoes.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 4>I can't decide mix the both.

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Six. Yeah, it's my lowest we've had in how many

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 3>What episode number? Is this my lowest score?

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 4>I think mine too, mm hmm.

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give it since I kind of take

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it personally, since I had to watch that myself being

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that and it was not it was not enjoyable, I'm

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.399
<v Speaker 1>going to give it. I'm going to put it down

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>into the threes. Oh, I'm going to give it a

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>three point six. Fow, I'm going to give it a

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>three point six five. Uh, portable camp of burners that

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is out of kerosene.

0:46:55.120 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 6>The only thing with maybe three points six ' five

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 6>bowie knives to take off the feet if anybody involved.

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.240
<v Speaker 4>That thing is officially the lowest rating on any episode

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 4>we don't.

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I just think. I mean, listen, I understand

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the creative people like to mix it up if they

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>feel a little stale and they come up with an idea.

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's take it to Martha's vain. Let's do that. Then

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what they must do, uh, to find their way

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>back home as it were. So I don't I applaud

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the effort. You know, it's hard to take this out

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of Star's hollow so much and limit it to so

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>few characters. So I applaud the effort, But you know,

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the execution is a different story.

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 4>I feel like the more we talked about it, I

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 4>like dislike I didn't mind being at the beach house

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 4>at first, and then alway talking about it, I'm like, yeah,

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 4>it just go worse.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we'll sway anyway, I'm worried, you know what.

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I also will say, I'm not sure I've seen this episode,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 3>but once, like one episode I've ever rewatched, and I wonder,

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.919
<v Speaker 3>like I was literally like, have I even seen this ever?

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm kind of like confused.

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's a famous so we might be.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>In for some trouble, but I do know. Look, anyway,

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I digress.

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna We're just gonna tuck and roll out of

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>this anyway. Thanks, ladies. The house is on fire. Let's

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>just get out of that we got to get some

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:48.439
<v Speaker 1>fresh air. Thank you ladies, Tarist, Suit, Susan and French Amy,

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Sugarman and best fans of all the planet thanks for

0:48:52.960 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 1>downloading uh this giant bowl of positivity MS of love anyway,

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we will see you on the seventeenth. Get your tickets.

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0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:44.400
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